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wizzyrea |
tcohen++ for being very funny |
| 02:14 |
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dcook |
Hmm I thought there was a ".success" in bootstrap... |
| 02:14 |
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dcook |
And I thought we were using bootstrap in the staff client.. |
| 02:15 |
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dcook |
Ahh maybe that's just for tables.. |
| 02:15 |
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dcook |
Do we have anything for indicating a good result? |
| 02:19 |
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dcook |
Interesting... |
| 02:19 |
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wahanui |
well, interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 02:20 |
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dcook |
It doesn't look like the bootstrap.min.css in the staff client is the real one... |
| 02:20 |
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dcook |
For one, it's not really that minified.. |
| 02:21 |
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dcook |
Maybe Koha just couldn't handle it all.. |
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dcook |
Hmm... |
| 03:53 |
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dcook |
Yeah, I think it's definitely a bug in 3.14 that adds "collection" to the OAI-PMH response.. |
| 03:53 |
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dcook |
But I don't see where :S |
| 03:54 |
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dcook |
Or is it my fault? |
| 03:54 |
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dcook |
That seems more likely :p |
| 03:56 |
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dcook |
Yeah... about 99% sure it was my idiocy on that one |
| 03:57 |
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mtj |
hey dcook, a nice idea re: .success class ^ |
| 03:57 |
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dcook |
thanks :) |
| 03:57 |
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dcook |
There should alreayd be a ".text-success" class with Bootstrap |
| 03:57 |
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dcook |
But it doesn't look like we use the full thing in the staff client, alas |
| 03:58 |
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mtj |
ah, ok... its a new area for me |
| 03:58 |
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dcook |
I sent out an email about it :) |
| 03:58 |
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dcook |
I'm pretty new to Bootstrap as well. |
| 03:58 |
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dcook |
Except when it comes to IE 7 O_O |
| 03:59 |
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dcook |
Especially with Bootstrap 3. Then I'm familiar... |
| 03:59 |
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* dcook |
grumbles about IE |
| 03:59 |
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dcook |
Turns out MARC::Record->as_xml and MARC::Record->as_xml_record are quite different methods... silly dcook... |
| 03:59 |
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* dcook |
wouldn't assume that as_xml() would use a collection wrapper, but there you go. Pays to do more tests and read between the lines in the docs |
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mtj |
aah, nice option :) |
| 04:03 |
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mtj |
i have been trying to follow your PMH progress on irc, dcook :) |
| 04:04 |
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dcook |
Oh? |
| 04:04 |
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dcook |
I think I might have something to post later today :) |
| 04:04 |
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mtj |
its something im a bit curious about... it seems useful :p |
| 04:04 |
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dcook |
I'm not super happy with it... but that's why one seeks feedback! |
| 04:04 |
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dcook |
yeah, in theory it should be useful :) |
| 04:04 |
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dcook |
It originated in 2013 when we wanted to find betters ways of getting records from DSpace into Koha |
| 04:04 |
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mtj |
aaaah |
| 04:04 |
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dcook |
But there's been more interest in using it to get MARC records into Koha from other MARC systems |
| 04:05 |
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dcook |
Like union catalogues and cataloguing software |
| 04:05 |
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mtj |
im keen to take a look at your stuff, signoff.. etc :) |
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dcook |
:D |
| 04:05 |
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dcook |
Lovely to hear :) |
| 04:05 |
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dcook |
I'm most keen to get feedback on the user interface, and the import mechanism |
| 04:06 |
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dcook |
Well, more so the UI |
| 04:06 |
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mtj |
woo, sounds nice |
| 04:06 |
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dcook |
Oh, it's awful, haha |
| 04:06 |
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dcook |
Functional is probably a kind description |
| 04:07 |
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dcook |
Beating myself up about it not being good enough actually :/ |
| 04:07 |
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mtj |
did you pinch code from the 'bib import' feature? |
| 04:07 |
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dcook |
So I really should post it so that people can improve it |
| 04:07 |
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dcook |
Nah |
| 04:07 |
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dcook |
Originally, yes |
| 04:07 |
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dcook |
But it was too unwieldy |
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* mtj |
would have :p |
| 04:07 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 04:07 |
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dcook |
I still might go that route to be honest |
| 04:07 |
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dcook |
I didn't like the idea of people being able to manually un-import things though |
| 04:08 |
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dcook |
Or selectively un-import, re-import, etc |
| 04:08 |
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dcook |
As it could cause harvesting problems |
| 04:08 |
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mtj |
yep, sure... it gets tricky huh |
| 04:08 |
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dcook |
So I pretty much hard-coded it in |
| 04:08 |
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mtj |
keep it stupid, for starters :) |
| 04:08 |
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dcook |
That was my thought as well. Hehe |
| 04:09 |
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dcook |
I don't want to give people rope to hang themselves |
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mtj |
s/stupid/simple/ |
| 04:09 |
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dcook |
That reminds me that I need to double-check a problem.. |
| 04:10 |
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dcook |
I hope that once I get the code out there that other people will get more involved as well |
| 04:10 |
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dcook |
I kind of like having it as my baby, but it's a lot of responsibility :S |
| 04:10 |
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dcook |
Or rather... |
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mtj |
hey #koha, has anyone got a good example of an 'atomic update' patch? |
| 04:10 |
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dcook |
I rather have more eyes on it than just mine |
| 04:10 |
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dcook |
I don't have enough data to make it good enough |
| 04:10 |
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dcook |
Anyway, I'll stop jabbering. Hopefully end of today I'll have something up |
| 04:12 |
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dcook |
Actually, this one will be :) |
| 04:12 |
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dcook |
Here's what I wrote: |
| 04:12 |
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dcook |
installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate/bug_10662-Build_OAI-PMH_Harvesting_Client_tables.sql |
| 04:13 |
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pastebot |
"dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "OAI atomic update" (51 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/60 |
| 04:13 |
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dcook |
mtj: ^ |
| 04:15 |
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mtj |
nice dcook |
| 04:22 |
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dcook |
Hmm... now do I want to decide the metadata with the OAI wrapper or not.. |
| 04:22 |
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dcook |
It would be easier without it.. |
| 04:50 |
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dcook |
It would be nice if we had somewhere for XSLTs other than the intrahtdocs... |
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putti |
Good morning! :) |
| 05:16 |
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* magnuse |
waves |
| 05:18 |
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* putti |
waves back ! |
| 05:24 |
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* dcook |
seems to have problems around the time that magnuse gets up in the morning :p |
| 05:24 |
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dcook |
Coincidence? I don't know... |
| 05:49 |
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dcook |
Blah... |
| 05:50 |
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dcook |
XML::LibXSLT... why are you removing the encoding...:S |
| 05:53 |
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dcook |
Ahh, because I'm a dummy |
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dcook |
magnuse: Maybe your arrival coincides not with the problems but with the solutions... |
| 05:57 |
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dcook |
Btw, the <collection> thing I was facing yesterday... totally my fault |
| 05:57 |
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dcook |
Not a mainstream 3.14 thing. I was using "as_xml" rather than "as_xml_record" on our modified OAI server |
| 05:57 |
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* dcook |
facepalm |
| 05:57 |
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wahanui |
facepalm is a tiny member of the Arecaceae family whose preference for warm, humid environments makes it a perfect choice for cultivation in the human nasal cavity. |
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magnuse |
dcook: i am a bringer of both problems and solutions - just to make your day more interesting ;-) |
| 06:29 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 06:29 |
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dcook |
Only 30 minutes left in my day! |
| 06:29 |
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dcook |
So looking forward to tonight's beer |
| 06:29 |
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dcook |
I was hoping to finish the first draft of this OAI thing today but I don't think it's going to happen |
| 06:29 |
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dcook |
Let's see though! |
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* dcook |
focuses |
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reiveune |
hello |
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putti |
reiveune, hi |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
| 06:49 |
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putti |
Hi.. Do we have any other database tool than schema.koha-community.org? Something where one can search for table and column names / descriptions |
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magnuse |
putti: there's always the source code, but schema.k-c is probably your best bet |
| 06:56 |
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putti |
okay |
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kivilahtio |
maybe we could have the schemaspy generate a pdf? |
| 06:56 |
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kivilahtio |
I think it does |
| 06:57 |
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kivilahtio |
putti: you can generate it yourself with schemaspy |
| 06:57 |
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kivilahtio |
putti: if making searching for keywords is what you need |
| 06:57 |
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putti |
I think many people need that |
| 06:58 |
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kivilahtio |
putti: maybe. You can always write a cookbook recipe to the kohawiki on how to generate stuff with schemaspy |
| 06:58 |
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magnuse |
but does schemaspy include any info that is not in kohastructure.sql? why not just search that file? |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: good point :) |
| 06:59 |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: schemaspy might have better syntax for human reading, but difference in miniscule |
| 07:01 |
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ashimema |
morning.. |
| 07:01 |
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ashimema |
kivi.. was that presentation really for me.. |
| 07:02 |
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ashimema |
all about updatedatabase? |
| 07:02 |
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ashimema |
kivilahtio |
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wahanui |
i guess kivilahtio is working to integrate our SMS provider to Koha |
| 07:02 |
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ashimema |
just reading it now anyways.. |
| 07:03 |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: heh, not really, no. But since you hapened to be there on the very same moment... |
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* ashimema |
notes he uses DBIx::Class::DeploymentHandler in his latest apps for doing this sort of thing.. so it's likely that's what he'll compare to ;) |
| 07:03 |
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ashimema |
hehe.. I'll have aread anyways.. looks interesting ;) |
| 07:03 |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: I will take a look at deploymenthandler |
| 07:04 |
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ashimema |
it's a challenge to get your head around to start with to be fair.. |
| 07:04 |
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kivilahtio |
maybe what I did was all pointless |
| 07:04 |
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kivilahtio |
I hope so :) |
| 07:04 |
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ashimema |
but it does lead to some beautiful upgrades/downgrades |
| 07:05 |
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ashimema |
deployment handler utilises a bunch of the dbic underlying stuff to build the basic upgrade/downgrade paths for you automagically.. but it also adds in allot of framework to allow you to write custom additions to the migration paths.. |
| 07:05 |
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dcook |
Ok, I'm oout |
| 07:05 |
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dcook |
later magnuse |
| 07:05 |
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dcook |
and co :) |
| 07:06 |
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ashimema |
for instance, my favourites, perl scripts during migration that can use dynamically built dbic classes. |
| 07:06 |
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kivilahtio |
dcook: bye! |
| 07:06 |
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ashimema |
see ya dcook.. long time no chat. |
| 07:07 |
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ashimema |
does running atomicupdate.pl already do something clever to not apply already applied updates? |
| 07:07 |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: Well do let me know if I could rewrite the internals to utilize DBIx::Class::DeploymentHandler |
| 07:08 |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: problem is that I don't think the DBIx really works that well yet with our DB upgrade process |
| 07:08 |
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ashimema |
or are you just assuming your updates are written of the form that will mean they don't apply if already applied.. like ALTER IGNORE and the likes? |
| 07:08 |
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Joubu |
Bonjour #koha |
| 07:08 |
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ashimema |
dbic deffo isn't all that nice with our system yet.. |
| 07:08 |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: the AtomicUpdater takes care not to apply same updates twice |
| 07:09 |
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ashimema |
Joubu.. will grab you later for a chat.. didn't mean to offend with my koha::object comments. |
| 07:09 |
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ashimema |
awesome.. I've not played with it all that much yet :) |
| 07:09 |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: we have some very complex update scripts, which need some perl scripting to transform data. Thus we cannot simply depend on SQL checks |
| 07:09 |
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dcook |
miss you, ashimema! We'll have to chat one of these days! |
| 07:09 |
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* dcook |
goes for real now |
| 07:09 |
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ashimema |
how does AtomicUpdater 'know' if an atomic update has already been applied.. do you have to makr the sql scripts somehow.. If so i'm sure we're getting it wrong here at ptfs at the minute ;) |
| 07:10 |
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ashimema |
:) |
| 07:10 |
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ashimema |
hugs dcook :) |
| 07:10 |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: there is a koha.atomicupdates -table |
| 07:10 |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: that stores the ISsue identifier, eg. Bug73432 |
| 07:10 |
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ashimema |
ooh.. shiny.. hadn't noticed that |
| 07:10 |
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ashimema |
coolios.. |
| 07:11 |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: the Issue identifier prefix is configurable, so you can use you internal ticketing system tags as well |
| 07:11 |
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kivilahtio |
like we have in our Jira KD-54 |
| 07:11 |
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kivilahtio |
or our new Redmine with Koha SSO, :) #54 |
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kivilahtio |
ashimema: check out the atomicupdate.pl -script to see the available options. There is are the test cases |
| 07:12 |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
| 07:12 |
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kivilahtio |
to show how to use the internal API functions |
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ashimema |
nice |
| 07:15 |
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ashimema |
breakfast time |
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fridolin |
hie |
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magnuse |
kia ora fridolin & cait |
| 07:29 |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
| 07:29 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on September 01, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:29 |
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magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
| 07:29 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille / Marignane, France is 21.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on September 01, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). |
| 07:31 |
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putti |
Bye! :) |
| 07:34 |
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fridolin |
bonjourno magnuse |
| 07:35 |
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magnuse |
buongiorno fridolino! |
| 07:37 |
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kivilahtio |
tervemenoa magnuse, fridolin |
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magnuse |
ah kia ora paul_p - long time no see! |
| 07:45 |
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paul_p |
hi magnuse & others |
| 07:45 |
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paul_p |
back from one month AFK today. I was in Madagascar. |
| 07:45 |
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magnuse |
oh wow! |
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magnuse |
what was that like? |
| 07:46 |
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paul_p |
magnuse winter ;-) (24°C during the day, but less than 10° at night) |
| 07:46 |
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kivilahtio |
probably too epic |
| 07:46 |
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magnuse |
sounds lovely |
| 07:46 |
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paul_p |
magnuse outside from that, it was an awesome experience. Will publish photos soon ;-) |
| 07:46 |
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magnuse |
yay |
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Joubu |
Hi paul_p :) |
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* andreashm |
waves |
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* magnuse |
waves bac |
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magnuse |
k |
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andreashm |
I've been around for almost an hour, and Magnuse has not exclaimed NCIP once. |
| 09:19 |
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* andreashm |
is amazed. |
| 09:23 |
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magnuse |
ncip! ncip! ncip! |
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magnuse |
there, i said it |
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cait |
i think heh as other headaches right now probably :) |
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* cait |
waves to andreashm and magnuse |
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tcohen |
morning |
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andreashm |
hey tcohen |
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ashimema |
afternoon |
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wahanui |
afternoon is good |
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tcohen |
good <tz_specific_greeting> |
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tcohen |
@later tell eythian packages should build on wheezy now |
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huginn |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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magnuse |
hiya ashimema and tcohen |
| 12:51 |
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tcohen |
hi magnuse |
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andreashm |
I spent last night reading up on the last dev meeting, about the REST API. Interesting stuff. |
| 12:52 |
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andreashm |
Also, tcohen, I found your stuff on Koha:RecordProcessor and Koha:MetadataRecord interesting! |
| 12:52 |
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tcohen |
andreashm: great |
| 12:52 |
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andreashm |
I'm I correct in understanding that this would help Koha use other metadata schemas than marc? |
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tcohen |
andreashm: that's the whole point, and refactoring the code on a step-by-step basis, into a more sane codebase |
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andreashm |
woho! |
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andreashm |
tcohen++ |
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tcohen |
Joubu: good afternoon |
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wahanui |
the only good time in the afternoon is beer o'clock |
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Joubu |
heh :) A bit early for a beer |
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tcohen |
heh |
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magnuse |
3pm? nah... |
| 12:58 |
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tcohen |
Joubu: do u remember who tested moving koha-conf.xml stuff into YAML? |
| 12:58 |
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* magnuse |
doesn't drink beer at all |
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Joubu |
tcohen: hum, not really |
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tcohen |
i was thinking about the idea of having an instance-registry, with creation information for Koha instances |
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tcohen |
and remembered someone did tests on removing the config section from the XML file |
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tcohen |
(it doesn't really belong there, as it is the zebra configuration file) |
| 13:01 |
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tcohen |
anyway |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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mtompset |
@seen tcohen |
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huginn |
mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 41 minutes and 41 seconds ago: <tcohen> anyway |
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tcohen |
hi mtompset |
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mtompset |
tcohen: I don't understand how you are suggesting changing the loop. |
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mtompset |
Because I want to run the loop. |
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tcohen |
what is the point if the deps are not met? |
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tcohen |
lets start over |
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tcohen |
what do u want to do? |
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mtompset |
I want to test offsets of 0 to 23 hours, but I can't if the dependency isn't installed, so I still want to test the 0 case. |
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tcohen |
uff, i'd say test the 0 case, then add the loop, inside the SKIP bolck |
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tcohen |
more lines, but people will figure what it is doing better |
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mtompset |
I was going for an optimized loop, not necessarily readability. :P |
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tcohen |
i know :-D |
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mtompset |
tcohen: Do you have a preference on how to do constants in Perl? :P |
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mtompset |
I know we removed ReadOnly. |
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mtompset |
Trying to make my tests perlcritic -2 friendly. ;) |
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tcohen |
mtompset: look at Koha.pm |
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tcohen |
(not C4/Koha.pm) |
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mtompset |
I don't care about the $VERSION. |
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mtompset |
I care about my 115 not being clear. |
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mtompset |
Or my 24 not being clear. :P |
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mtompset |
(like people don't know the number of hours in a day) |
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mtompset |
I'll just leave it. :) |
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tcohen |
i'd just put a ironic comment saying that days still obviously have around 24 hours |
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cait |
sometimes a minute more or less... :) |
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tcohen |
cait: exactly |
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tcohen |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi tcohen |
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* drojf |
throws leap-seconds to confuse everyone |
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tcohen |
hi drojf |
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cait |
hi drojf |
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cait |
i was waiting for you :P |
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drojf |
that sounds scary ;) |
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andreashm |
haha |
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cait |
not THAT scary... right? |
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druthb |
drojf! cait! tcohen! mtompset! |
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* druthb |
waves excitedly. |
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mtompset |
druthb: You're a millionaire and going to make a huge donation?! |
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* mtompset |
grins. |
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druthb |
*snrk* |
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mtompset |
OH OH! |
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mtompset |
You found the love of your life?! |
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druthb |
nope. Didn't win the lotto or anythin'. |
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mtompset |
Oh. :( |
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druthb |
Nope, that either, though I *do* have a date on Friday. |
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druthb |
first time for *that* in quite a while. |
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mtompset |
blind date? |
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cait |
:) |
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druthb |
no, not blind. :) We've been kind of casually flirting with each other for a while. |
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mtompset |
Okay, well... have fun. :) |
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druthb |
I finally got mah nerve up and asked them out. |
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mtompset |
tcohen: Should I ask Indranil to re-sign the patch? |
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tcohen |
i think so |
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mtompset |
Looks like I need more testing. |
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tcohen |
mtompset: no rush, take your time so you are sure it shines as you want it to |
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tcohen |
gmcharlt: did u get my email? |
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* tcohen |
likes the libreoffice homepage |
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* tcohen |
likes bug wrangler-mode Zeno |
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mtompset |
tcohen: Is it pretty enough now? :P |
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bag |
magnuse: HI |
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cait |
@seen ztajoli |
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huginn |
cait: ztajoli was last seen in #koha 47 weeks, 5 days, 4 hours, 21 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <ztajoli> Koha vesrion tested: master from sandbox |
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cait |
ztajoli++ |
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* cait |
likes him too |
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tcohen |
ztajoli++ |
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drojf |
@seen tajoli |
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huginn |
drojf: tajoli was last seen in #koha 6 days, 0 hours, 22 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <tajoli> I see only Olli's work are many new files |
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drojf |
;) |
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drojf |
druthb! |
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tcohen |
tajoli++ # then |
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cait |
tajoli++ |
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tcohen |
cait: is it true that patrons can edit items from another branches even with independentbranches=on? |
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cait |
yes and no |
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cait |
indybranches does stop it to some degree |
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cait |
but htere are holes |
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cait |
like the edit items links on the items table |
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cait |
i filed a bug for that |
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cait |
which means... that the page itself doesn't seem to block it - but there is some logic on the edit links on the edit items page |
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tcohen |
cait: number? |
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wahanui |
number is going down too fast |
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cait |
does that make sense? |
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cait |
trying to find it |
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tcohen |
cait: yes, it seemed to me that we hide the links (some of them ,not all of them) but we can got there and edit the items :-D |
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cait |
bug 14354 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14354 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Only superlibrarian should see edit links for other branches' items in staff detail |
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tcohen |
oh damn |
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pianohacker |
cait: I have a question regarding bug 14510; there's an unspoken assumption that the kohafield mappings in the default framework are what hold regardless of what the actual frameworkcode is. Is that safe to assume for the purposes of that bug? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14510 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , Allow column visibility in additem.pl to be customized |
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cait |
hm |
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pianohacker |
cait: I'm purely using it in this case so I can connect the columns to some actual name |
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cait |
yeah then no |
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cait |
I think you should respect the framework |
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cait |
and also the hidden values there |
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pianohacker |
hm, okay |
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cait |
for example - FA is a lot shorter for us then DEFAULT |
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cait |
and if you set fields to inogre currently.. they will also be hidden in the form above |
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cait |
tab = ignore |
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cait |
I wonder - why not check the 'editor hidden' flags? |
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pianohacker |
yeah, I remember we had talked about this before... I brought this back to the original partner and they did want visibility settings independent of the hidden setting. Ignore, though, will still hide the column in both places |
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cait |
libraries... ;) |
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pianohacker |
cait: (amen) it's really tricky with how the columns settings work to even use the hidden settings as a default :/ |
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cait |
I think i don't like the idea of having it separate from the frameworks |
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cait |
it seems like breaking something up that belongs together |
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cait |
at least right now |
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cait |
i think what i'd like best would be having it configurable as another checkbox |
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cait |
if you really need to have it separate |
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cait |
but that's just my feeling |
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cait |
heather++ |
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pianohacker |
cait: yeah, but having it in the frameworks adds a number of issues |
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pianohacker |
first and foremost, unless I just hack in another db column, adding that to the hidden settings is an absolute nightmare |
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cait |
there are still unused values :P |
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cait |
and that ominuos 'flagged' |
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pianohacker |
positively unused? are you sure? :) |
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cait |
there are soe numeric ones that are documented for 'future use' |
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cait |
but the way it works... you'd need to touch alot of stuff probably :( |
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pianohacker |
exactly :/ |
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cait |
http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Hidden_values |
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cait |
btw - don't forget to update your rancor demo installation for thursday :) |
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pianohacker |
plus, if you put it purely in the frameworks, you lose the ability to show/hide columns at runtime without a lot of extra work |
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pianohacker |
I _think_ it's up to date but I need to try to fix the lingering issues by then |
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pianohacker |
cait: I don't think there's really an ideal solution given that I'm mixing the columns config stuff and frameworks, so I went with the simplest possible way |
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pianohacker |
so while it may not be ideal it's at least straightforwardly wrong :) |
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cait |
if the ignore still works... |
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pianohacker |
ignore will, yes |
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cait |
maybe that's the best we can do |
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pianohacker |
hidden has never affected the table, so that at least isn't _changing_ |
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cait |
but i am still not a fan of separating those too - it hink it could lead to confusion easily |
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cait |
we will redirect all questions to you :) |
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pianohacker |
the main use case of this is to be able to hide certain columns by default (like itemnotes) that can explode the table |
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Joubu |
I am not sure those 2 things are related |
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Joubu |
you can also add a field which is hidden in the edit item table, don't you? |
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pianohacker |
nope |
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Joubu |
ha :) |
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pianohacker |
you can set it to ignore, but that's it |
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pianohacker |
and that hides it in both the form and the table |
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Joubu |
ok, forget me, sorry for the noise |
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pianohacker |
Joubu: I _think_ there's a framework issue I need to account for that's breaking this for you. Thanks for the sandbox link |
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pianohacker |
cait: but yeah, I mean, if you have a framework without one of the columns that has been hidden, it will just continue not to exist :) |
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pianohacker |
and having it not be hidden by default won't make it suddenly appear in a framework where it's missing. Does that make sense? |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
raining heavily... ok, i am ging to work a little longer |
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drojf |
starting here now |
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drojf |
now that i am done here |
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drojf |
:D |
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reiveune |
bye |
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pianohacker |
Joubu: another thing that's hurting bug 14510; I noticed that a lot of the item fields in UNIMARC don't seem to be mapped to item fields. Do you know if there's a reason for that? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14510 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , Allow column visibility in additem.pl to be customized |
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cait |
pianohacker: i thik it's just that the default framework is not good |
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cait |
pianohacker: there is a bug about that even i think... |
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pianohacker |
Hrm :/ |
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cait |
why is it a problem? |
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cait |
i think you'd look at the 995 fields form the frameworks, wouldn't you? |
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cait |
there can always be unmapped fields |
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cait |
because we have the feature to store in more_subfields_xml then |
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cait |
it's not a bug, it's a feature :) but the description would still have to be defined in the framework |
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pianohacker |
yeah, but with the way that the column stuff works, it needs a name for a column in order to have settings for it |
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pianohacker |
I used the database column |
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cait |
hm i thought it always did that currently |
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pianohacker |
It's not necessarily a killer, but it means that it's impossible to use the columns stuff for unmapped columns |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
does it currently show the additional non-mapped fields in the table? |
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pianohacker |
cait: in fact, for most of the tables in the columns stuff, it's only a coincidence that the names are similar to the database column |
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pianohacker |
because they work purely on order |
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pianohacker |
obv that can't work for the items table |
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cait |
you lost me a bit |
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pianohacker |
cait: it will, yes |
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pianohacker |
cait: so, the columns code currently depends on there being a fixed set of columns in a fixed order |
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pianohacker |
the name in the column editor is purely for the human |
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cait |
so maybe... ti won't work |
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cait |
because items is not fixed |
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cait |
you can add additional item fields... |
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pianohacker |
cait: I worked around that by using the kohafield to give the columns code something to connect the two |
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pianohacker |
and you'll be able to show/hide the extra columns, but not set default settings for them |
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Joubu |
Absolutely no idea |
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Joubu |
pianohacker: Absolutely no idea |
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pianohacker |
okay, thanks regardless |
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Joubu |
pianohacker: I haven't deep into the code, to know how it could be possible to do, but maybe it will be quite difficult to implement |
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Joubu |
and maybe it could be... considered as a configuration issue |
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pianohacker |
It's doable, but the default settings part of the columns config can really only work for mapped fields |
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Joubu |
bye #koha! |
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pianohacker |
bye :) |
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tcohen |
bye Joubu |
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drojf |
swimming home |
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tcohen |
how do i short-circuit to a login page in a controller script if i find permissions are not complied? |
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tcohen |
I know get_template_and_user does that |
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tcohen |
but it is not enough |
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pianohacker |
tcohen: checkauth? |
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tcohen |
pianohacker: i'm adding a check for itemnumber->homebranch == user homebranch |
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tcohen |
for the independentbranches config, and not superlibrarian of course |
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tcohen |
checkauth is not designed for that |
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tcohen |
ashimema_: ? |
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pianohacker |
tcohen: yeah... you could always call it with a nonsense permission |
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pianohacker |
or superlibrarian => 1 |
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ashimema_ |
hi |
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tcohen |
pianohacker: that's not kosher |
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ashimema_ |
erm.. |
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ashimema_ |
let me just fix somthing else.. then I'll remind mysefl how our auth code works ;) |
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* tcohen |
gives the Auth module maintainer some minutes to prepare :-D |
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tcohen |
pianohacker: BTW, your solution would work heh |
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pianohacker |
the nonsense permission, or superlibrarian => 1 |
| 17:29 |
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pianohacker |
because the latter is _vaguely_ sane :) |
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* tcohen |
feels dirty, but it works |
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tcohen |
gaetan_B: i think we should cache the XSLT's instead |
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gaetan_B |
tcohen: aah that's interesting |
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gaetan_B |
i have seen that xslt is a place we lose a lot of time in search |
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gaetan_B |
i am not able to understand this more deeply though |
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tcohen |
gaetan_B: i haven't had the time to invest on that, but my idea is that we should have a general XSLT cache |
| 18:23 |
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gaetan_B |
not sure to understand what you mean by caching the xslt, or what Julian's patch is doing actually |
| 18:23 |
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tcohen |
so we stop loading files from the hard disk all the time |
| 18:23 |
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gaetan_B |
ah do we load it for each result ? |
| 18:23 |
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tcohen |
no, we do it for each run |
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tcohen |
but we also traverse the records (in MARC::Record form) |
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tcohen |
applying the frameworks-defined visibility for each (sub)field |
| 18:24 |
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tcohen |
then translate into XML ->as_xml() |
| 18:24 |
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gaetan_B |
would that be the reason why a search with a lot of results is dog-slow, even though we only display 20 ? |
| 18:24 |
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tcohen |
and apply XSLTs on top of that |
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tcohen |
gaetan_B: have you disblaed the zebra facets? |
| 18:25 |
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gaetan_B |
i mean, i am still struggling to understand why a search with a couple hundreds of results is so much faster than a search with tens of thousands |
| 18:25 |
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gaetan_B |
zebra facets are disabled yes |
| 18:26 |
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gaetan_B |
querying zebra directly, there's pretty much no difference, and zebra answers blazing fast anyway actually |
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tcohen |
gaetan_B: my tests showed that removing much of the searchResults processing (which was actually meant fro non-XSLT display) meant a major improvement in rendering speed |
| 18:27 |
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tcohen |
that's also why I'm focusing on Koha::RecordProcessor right now |
| 18:27 |
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gaetan_B |
so it seems like there is something in koha that slows down processing of results, and that it is linked to the number of results you get |
| 18:27 |
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gaetan_B |
but this is all way above my head on the technical side unfortunately |
| 18:28 |
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tcohen |
because we should just get raw XML from zebra/ES and pass it through several (cached) XSLTs without taht many serialization/de-serialization steps |
| 18:28 |
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tcohen |
gaetan_B: i'd say it is related to the size of the actual records being processed (not the search results, but the offset we are rendering) |
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* tcohen |
expects to end his RM term to actually have more time to code! |
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magnuse |
tcohen: good plan :-) |
| 18:57 |
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magnuse |
lots of big, bold things happening in koha now - interesting times |
| 18:58 |
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magnuse |
i just wish i had more time to keep up with it |
| 18:58 |
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magnuse |
maybe next year |
| 18:59 |
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tcohen |
magnuse: I hope you get that time! |
| 18:59 |
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tcohen |
btw, can we talk for a minute about kohadevbox? |
| 19:00 |
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tcohen |
do u think it is important to have the option to skip webinstalleR? :-D |
| 19:03 |
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magnuse |
tcohen: maybe not essential, but it does make things more streamlined... |
| 19:06 |
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tcohen |
magnuse: i suspect you read my answer to zeno |
| 19:07 |
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tcohen |
on wheezy and trusty, the new koha-plack scripts/tools require installing a backport of the apache server |
| 19:07 |
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tcohen |
would u agree that I added those repos (conditional on the distribution) |
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magnuse |
sure, as long as things keep working :-) |
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* cait |
wavdes |
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cait |
tcohen: gbsd is on thursday :) |
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gaetan_B |
bye |
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tcohen |
really¡? |
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tcohen |
bye gaetan_B !! |
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tcohen |
cait: really? |
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gaetan_B |
:) |
| 19:16 |
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cait |
3rd |
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cait |
gbsd? |
| 19:16 |
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wahanui |
somebody said gbsd was http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bug_squashing_day |
| 19:19 |
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tcohen |
cait: i was rushing to finish the kohadevbox |
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tcohen |
heh |
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tcohen |
@later tell eythian please packaaaaage |
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huginn |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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tcohen |
magnuse: I think i will push what i got so far into my github fork of your kohadevbox |
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tcohen |
and once we agree on how far i got on the implementation, will send you a pull request |
| 19:20 |
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tcohen |
ok? |
| 19:21 |
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tcohen |
no point to have on my local machine only |
| 19:24 |
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magnuse |
tcohen: sounds like a plan |
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magnuse |
i might not have time to look at a pr for a while, but i think the opl people are looking out for kohadevbox too |
| 19:24 |
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tcohen |
ok |
| 19:25 |
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magnuse |
maybe we could have different branches in the official repo too |
| 19:25 |
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magnuse |
an "official" plack branch |
| 19:25 |
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tcohen |
ah, yes :-D |
| 19:25 |
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magnuse |
dunno |
| 19:29 |
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magnuse |
any LDAP pros here at the moment? |
| 19:30 |
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magnuse |
i can't for the life of me get branchcode into the data that goes into creating a new borrower, and it fails with opac-user.pl: DBIx::Class::ResultSet::create(): Cannot add or update a child row: a foreign key constraint fails (`koha_svf`.`borrowers`, CONSTRAINT `borrowers_ibfk_2` FOREIGN KEY (`branchcode`) REFERENCES `branches` (`branchcode`)) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Members.pm line 770, referer: http://xyz.bibkat.se/ |
| 19:32 |
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magnuse |
i do have <branchcode is="department">XYZ</branchcode> in the mapping, and i have also tried <branchcode is="">XYZ</branchcode>, <branchcode>XYZ</branchcode> |
| 19:32 |
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magnuse |
<categorycode is="department">XYZ</categorycode> works as expected |
| 19:33 |
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magnuse |
and category and branch XYZ is defined |
| 19:34 |
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cait |
hm silly idea |
| 19:34 |
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cait |
have you checked there is no space after your branchcode? |
| 19:34 |
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cait |
or maybe switched places of categorycode and branchode in the config file to see if it's then complaining about the other one? |
| 19:35 |
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cait |
we once had a space after the branchcode in koha... and that led to all kinds of fun |
| 19:38 |
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magnuse |
no extra spaces |
| 19:39 |
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magnuse |
the order of categorycode and branchode in the config file does not matter, it is always the branchcode that is missing |
| 19:41 |
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magnuse |
gah, resterted memcached and now it works! |
| 19:43 |
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magnuse |
happydance! |
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tcohen |
cait: there are 195 countries right now |
| 19:55 |
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* tcohen |
loves the postman app for chrome |
| 19:57 |
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magnuse |
koha countries? |
| 19:58 |
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cait |
195 cool :) |
| 19:59 |
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magnuse |
this guy has visited 198 countries: http://www.garfors.com/ |
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cait |
um...? |
| 20:01 |
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magnuse |
oops, battery running out! have fun #koha! |
| 20:01 |
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cait |
bye magnuse :) |
| 20:09 |
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cait |
magnuse: still there? |
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wahanui |
there is no way to add items to a list? |
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bag |
heya cait |
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cait |
@later tell tcohen should Plack::Middleware::ReverseProxy be a mandatory dependency now? just pulled from master |
| 21:01 |
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huginn |
cait: The operation succeeded. |
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cait |
hi bag |
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pianohacker |
*blink* |
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rangi |
morning |
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cait |
morning rangi |
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cait |
eythian: missing Elastic search on the gbsd page ... would be nice for beginners with the available demo installation |
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tcohen |
hi kiwis |
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wizzyrea |
hi tcohen |
| 21:38 |
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tcohen |
cait: i wasn't sure… but as it is available on the supported platforms… |
| 21:38 |
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tcohen |
and we want to bring plack to everyone...ç |
| 21:38 |
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tcohen |
hi wizzyrea |
| 21:39 |
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cait |
just wondering :) it installed fine |
| 21:39 |
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tcohen |
vagrant ssh wheezy |
| 21:39 |
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tcohen |
damn, it always happens :-D |
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wizzyrea |
teehee |
| 21:39 |
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wizzyrea |
could be worse, could have been your password |
| 21:41 |
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pianohacker |
... I did just sent nengard my computer password this afternoon, actually |
| 21:41 |
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tcohen |
yeah, that ISNT my password |
| 21:41 |
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pianohacker |
_that_ was a hurried passwd |
| 21:43 |
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tcohen |
vagrant provision wheezy |
| 21:43 |
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tcohen |
you have to be kidding |
| 21:43 |
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tcohen |
i will probably go offline |
| 21:43 |
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tcohen |
both my old a new password pasted here |
| 21:44 |
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ibeardslee |
go have coffee and come back once you have done that ;) |
| 21:44 |
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* tcohen |
already has a cup of coffee, just moved the temrinal no another workspace |
| 21:45 |
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ibeardslee |
a shot (or two) of brandy in the coffee then? |
| 21:45 |
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tcohen |
ibeardslee: i like you |
| 21:48 |
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cait |
coffee? that doesn't sound right |
| 21:54 |
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wizzyrea |
brandy helps all things. |
| 22:01 |
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tcohen |
cait: BTW, once eythian builds the new master packages the dependency issue should not be anymore |
| 22:01 |
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* wizzyrea |
made a tactical error in copying a git repository. Jebus, the files. All the files. |
| 22:02 |
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cait |
heh |
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tcohen |
wizzyrea: heh |
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* cait |
donates some icecream to #koha |
| 22:04 |
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* tcohen |
waves while shutting everything down |
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tcohen |
byeeeeee |
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Francesca |
anyone got any ideas as to why a mouse would suddenly vanish inside a vm? |
| 22:20 |
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cdickinson_ |
try rebooting the VM? |
| 22:20 |
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cdickinson_ |
ugh |
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* Francesca |
laughs |
| 22:21 |
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cait |
cats? |
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wahanui |
cats are endlessly entertaining. or cuddly and cute |
| 22:22 |
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Francesca |
I like cats |
| 22:22 |
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Francesca |
though mine were attempting to destroy the washing when I left |
| 22:24 |
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cdickinson |
^ that should be the third part of that sentence |
| 22:25 |
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cdickinson |
or something |
| 22:25 |
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wahanui |
somebody said something was sketchy |
| 22:25 |
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Francesca |
lol |
| 22:27 |
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cait |
wahanui botsnack icecream |
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wahanui |
:) |
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Francesca |
didn't know there was botsnack icecream |
| 22:28 |
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cait |
wahanui botsnack caramel pudding |
| 22:28 |
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wahanui |
:) |
| 22:28 |
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cait |
he doesn't really care what it is :) |
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ibeardslee |
wahanui botsnack pile of poo |
| 22:29 |
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wahanui |
thanks ibeardslee :) |
| 22:29 |
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cdickinson |
ninja'd |
| 22:29 |
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ibeardslee |
strange tastes |
| 22:29 |
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cdickinson |
wahanui botsnack wahanui |
| 22:29 |
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wahanui |
:) |
| 22:29 |
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Francesca |
LOL |
| 22:29 |
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Francesca |
wahanui botsnack cdickinson |
| 22:29 |
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wahanui |
thanks Francesca :) |
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cdickinson |
:( |
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cdickinson |
you know what shouldn't be a thing |
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cdickinson |
Ctrl+Q |
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Francesca |
lol |
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eythian |
hi |
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Francesca |
someone remind me |
| 22:49 |
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Francesca |
how do you export something as a png from inkscape? |
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eythian |
Bestand -> PNG-afbeelding exporteren... |
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cait |
heh |
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cait |
hi eythian :) |
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eythian |
hallo cait |
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cait |
did you see my question about elastic and gbsd? |
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eythian |
I did, but I haven't really had a chance to think about it. |
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eythian |
I should do that though |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
@see kathryn |
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huginn |
cait: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
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cait |
@seen kathryn |
| 23:00 |
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huginn |
cait: kathryn was last seen in #koha 13 weeks, 6 days, 20 hours, 52 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <kathryn> thanks mtj |
| 23:00 |
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cait |
kathryn++ :) |
| 23:05 |
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cdickinson |
so kathryn was on IRC at some point |
| 23:05 |
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cait |
yes, but it seems she has gone missing |
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kathryn |
hi #koha :) |
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kathryn |
eythian said you were talking about me ;) |
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kathryn |
he didn't tell me what you said though! |
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eythian |
I couldn't possibly repeat it |
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cait |
gave you karma for the email :) |
| 23:10 |
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cait |
and hi kathryn :) |
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kathryn |
oh HI CAIT !! |
| 23:10 |
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kathryn |
nice to be here |
| 23:10 |
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cait |
nice to see you |
| 23:11 |
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kathryn |
I just turned 'auto-connect on start-up' back on |
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kathryn |
if I turn it off again, it's cos I did a really embarrassing WW |
| 23:12 |
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cait |
WW? |
| 23:12 |
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kathryn |
hopefully that doesn't happen :) |
| 23:12 |
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kathryn |
wrong window |
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eythian |
wrongwindow.com |
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cait |
aah |
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cait |
rangi: do you know what saved_sql was supposed to be used for? |
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cait |
or was used for... i am looking at a bug removing it |
| 23:14 |
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rangi |
in what context? |
| 23:14 |
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cait |
guided reports it looks like |
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eythian |
@later tell tcohen your durned master packages are uploading now! :) |
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huginn |
eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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rangi |
surely if someone wants to remove it they have researched what it was for, and documented why removing it is ok on the bug right? |
| 23:14 |
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cait |
bug 14435 |
| 23:14 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14435 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , The table saved_reports is never populated |
| 23:14 |
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rangi |
anything else is just being crap |
| 23:14 |
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cait |
they have researched since when it is no longer used 14be4400d84b28369d095b3b0bfa79c3396f44d4 |
| 23:15 |
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* rangi |
is incredibly sick of people 'tidying' by making bigger messes because they dont understand what they are doing |
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cdickinson |
A+ for effort? |
| 23:16 |
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wizzyrea |
more like C- |
| 23:16 |
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Francesca |
oh no |
| 23:16 |
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Francesca |
c- is baaaad |
| 23:16 |
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cdickinson |
they wouldn't get into any prerequisite courses with a grade like that |
| 23:16 |
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Francesca |
nope |
| 23:16 |
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Francesca |
I had to have a b+ to get into some of my papers for this tri |
| 23:17 |
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cait |
the one they linekd to looks like quite a rewrite *sigh* and ooold |
| 23:17 |
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cdickinson |
B-average over all my papers for first year in engineering |
| 23:17 |
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cait |
from atz |
| 23:17 |
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cait |
um |
| 23:17 |
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cait |
and i didn't mean saved_sql earlier... they remove saved_reports |
| 23:18 |
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cait |
just noticed my confusion |
| 23:18 |
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rangi |
so they arent removing saved_sql |
| 23:18 |
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rangi |
they are removing saved_reports |
| 23:19 |
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cait |
yes |
| 23:22 |
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rangi |
so yeah this is not fully right |
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cait |
the only sql i can find referring it is in store_results() and that is commented out everywhere it looks like |
| 23:22 |
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rangi |
yep that part of the patch is fine |
| 23:22 |
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rangi |
but as always |
| 23:23 |
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rangi |
they went further |
| 23:23 |
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rangi |
and removed stuff from the template |
| 23:24 |
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cait |
y |
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cait |
do you see something obviously wrong? |
| 23:26 |
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rangi |
wizzyrea: with the task scheduler is there still an option to save the results? |
| 23:26 |
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wizzyrea |
hm good q |
| 23:26 |
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wizzyrea |
2 shakes I'm looking at that rightnow |
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cait |
thx all :) |
| 23:27 |
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wizzyrea |
there is an option for "url" instead of email |
| 23:27 |
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wizzyrea |
1s looking to see what that means |
| 23:27 |
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rangi |
yeah it used to send you to a page with the results |
| 23:28 |
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rangi |
someone probably 'refactored' that until it didnt work |
| 23:28 |
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cait |
my guess is that it got broken long ago |
| 23:28 |
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wizzyrea |
yeah, I don't see that in the code anywhere |
| 23:28 |
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wizzyrea |
only email |
| 23:28 |
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cait |
in some rewrite |
| 23:28 |
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wizzyrea |
should probably go away |
| 23:28 |
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rangi |
fucking refactorers |
| 23:28 |
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rangi |
do it properly |
| 23:28 |
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rangi |
or just piss off |
| 23:28 |
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cait |
heh |
| 23:29 |
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rangi |
seriously |
| 23:29 |
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rangi |
what a waste of time that was |
| 23:29 |
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cait |
so the question is.. do we want to restore... or better start from scratch after carefully tidying? |
| 23:29 |
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cait |
testing around reports right now, so far no explosions detected |
| 23:29 |
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rangi |
just tidy it, who needs actually useful features if we can spend time pissing round with cataloguing instead |
| 23:30 |
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* rangi |
is over this |
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wizzyrea |
scheduler's broken atm anyway :( |
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cait |
ew |
| 23:32 |
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wizzyrea |
thing that fixed it last time, scope creeped into other stuff, now it's busted again. |
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cait |
thought we had just fixed it up |
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cait |
i think i tested it in... 3.18? |
| 23:32 |
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cait |
is there a bug report? |
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wizzyrea |
not at the moment, no, I'll probably be filing one shortly. |
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cait |
ok |
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Francesca |
arghhh header text image allingment |
| 23:35 |
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Francesca |
why does nothing work!!!!!!!! |
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pianohacker |
@css++ |
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huginn |
pianohacker: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
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pianohacker |
css++ |
| 23:35 |
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pianohacker |
css-- |
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Francesca |
normally I like css |
| 23:36 |
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Francesca |
not today |
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pianohacker |
kathryn: hi! We've exchanged emails but never been introduced |
| 23:36 |
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pianohacker |
I'm Jesse Weaver with bywater |
| 23:36 |
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Francesca |
he hacks pianos |
| 23:36 |
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kathryn |
hi pianohacker ! I did not know you were jesse :) |
| 23:37 |
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pianohacker |
kathryn: I'm breaking the koha convention by having a nick not based on my name :) |
| 23:37 |
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eythian |
what convention? |
| 23:38 |
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Francesca |
theres a convention? |
| 23:38 |
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kathryn |
...right on queue eythian |
| 23:38 |
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Francesca |
I just use my name so people know who I am |
| 23:39 |
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papa |
pianohacker: welcome to the club |
| 23:39 |
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cdickinson |
there is a Koha convention for that? |
| 23:39 |
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pianohacker |
eythian: you, papa and chris are some of the few exceptions :) |
| 23:39 |
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cdickinson |
the only reason why I'm cdickinson is Callum was taken |
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cdickinson |
but I ditched aliases in general a long time ago |
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wizzyrea |
hm, there are a fair number of people with sorta named based nicks |
| 23:40 |
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eythian |
like wahanui is wahanui's real name |
| 23:40 |
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Francesca |
lol |
| 23:40 |
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pianohacker |
wahanui lies about everything else |
| 23:40 |
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wahanui |
pianohacker: what? |
| 23:41 |
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pianohacker |
better believe it |
| 23:41 |
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Francesca |
wahanui: cats |
| 23:41 |
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wahanui |
cats are endlessly entertaining. or cuddly and cute |
| 23:41 |
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Francesca |
he doesn't lie about cats |
| 23:41 |
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cdickinson |
wahanui truthfully believes in his false teachings |
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wahanui |
cdickinson: i'm not following you... |
| 23:41 |
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cdickinson |
see? |
| 23:41 |
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* Francesca |
facepalms |
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Francesca |
faceplate |
| 23:42 |
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wahanui |
faceplate is wizzyrea's new favourite way to express that. |
| 23:42 |
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Francesca |
^that is also true I think |
| 23:42 |
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wizzyrea |
I wish I remembered where that came from. |
| 23:42 |
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Francesca |
me |
| 23:42 |
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pianohacker |
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-i[…]n-a-plate-007.jpg ? |
| 23:42 |
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Francesca |
my auto-correct turned facepalm into faceplate |
| 23:43 |
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wizzyrea |
I was thinking maybe it was a night of drinking. |
| 23:43 |
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Francesca |
hahahahahahaha |
| 23:43 |
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Francesca |
oh god that image is amazing |
| 23:43 |
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cdickinson |
that's what I used to do when I was waiting for dinner and it was delayed |
| 23:44 |
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wizzyrea |
faceplate is <reply> http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-i[…]n-a-plate-007.jpg |
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Francesca |
yus a small victory |
| 23:46 |
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Francesca |
my nav is no longer shoved off to the side |
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eythian |
@later tell dcook https://2015.osdc.com.au/schedule/ -- 29th right after lunch |
| 23:49 |
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huginn |
eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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papa |
hey pianohacker, that overdrive thing, did you get a chance to change that return url on their support site? |
| 23:49 |
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pianohacker |
oh, shoot! Sorry, I forgot to do that |
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pianohacker |
papa: one sec |
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pianohacker |
bye all |
