IRC log for #koha, 2015-07-29

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00:13 eythian <-- this explains Microsoft's browser program, alright.
00:14 Francesca do you think its a good browser?
00:14 Francesca Not that I use windows anymore but out of curiosity
00:19 eythian I've never used it
00:20 Francesca right
00:27 tcohen eythian: that's just proprietary functionalities, is that what they have to show?
00:46 Francesca @wunder wlg
00:46 huginn` Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (12:30 PM NZST on July 29, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
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04:57 cdickinson @wunder lower hutt
04:57 huginn` cdickinson: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 9.7°C (4:50 PM NZST on July 29, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
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05:41 Francesca @wunder wlg
05:41 huginn` Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (5:30 PM NZST on July 29, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising).
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06:41 reiveune hello
06:41 wahanui salut, reiveune
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07:00 alex_a bonjour
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07:10 Francesca @wunder wlg
07:10 huginn` Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (7:00 PM NZST on July 29, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising).
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07:45 gaetan_B hello
08:14 seltmann hello
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08:20 seltmann can anybody tell me, what causes the webinstaller to show up?
08:24 seltmann must be something filebased. database didnt change
08:28 seltmann hm, maybe because of a koha update? as i logged into the webinstaller it told me of some database upgrades and all went fine. and after log in again the normal intranet backend login showed up and the opac was available again
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09:35 nlegrand Hey #koha !
10:02 mtj yuck, just bumped into bug 14044 on 3.18
10:02 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14044 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Backslashes ( and possibly other characters ) break patron search
10:04 mtj ..i might have a go at backporting it to 3.18
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10:33 cait waaah!
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11:11 drojf hi
11:11 wahanui what's up, drojf
11:12 * cait waves
11:12 drojf wahanui: well, you know... hiw about you?
11:12 wahanui i haven't a clue, drojf
11:13 drojf hi cait :)
11:13 drojf that webirc could be a bit more mobile friendly
11:14 cait hm i have an irc app on my phone :)
11:15 drojf i tried one but it did not work
11:15 drojf funny how they label it firefox os 3.0 while the most basic needs are not covered ;)
11:15 cait i tried 3 or so, the one i have now works reasonably well - but it's for n9 :(
11:18 drojf n9?
11:19 cait nokia n9 - meego
11:19 cait brb
11:21 drojf ah right, i am not the only one with a weird phone os :p
11:22 drojf hm this is no fun. later
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11:24 drojf test
11:25 drojf weird app, but maybe connected
11:26 drojf no timestamps and newest on top. odd
11:35 * cait hates the cart email right now
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11:55 drojf oh great, i see people come and go, but not what they write. excellent app :D
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12:34 nlegrand Youpi! I finally have a koha instance with a loaded plugin ^^
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12:35 nlegrand It funny, it works with a packaged system, but not with a koha-dev instance, the koha-dev instance tell me : Can't locate object method "new" via package "Koha::Plugin::EDS" (perhaps you forgot to load "Koha::Plugin::EDS"?) at /home/koha/koha-src/Koha/ line 66.
12:35 nlegrand Anyone having an idea about what is missing ?
12:41 cait hgm maybe a path is different?
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13:04 nlegrand cait: looks like a missing dependencie, withe deps installed from packaged, it also work on a dev kohaclone
13:04 cait cool :)
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13:06 nlegrand cait: yep, that's good news ^^, I'm really curious about what was missing :)
13:06 nlegrand Gonna try to search a bit
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14:15 tcohen hi
14:15 wahanui niihau, tcohen
14:26 tcohen hi khall_
14:26 tcohen cait: good afternoon
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14:44 tcohen barton: remember: only DOM
14:46 barton tcohen what was this in reference to?
14:47 tcohen i thought you just filled a bug
14:47 barton ah. right.
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14:49 barton tcohen: so no more edits to record.abs?
14:52 tcohen barton: exactly
14:52 barton oh, bereak my heart, break my heart ;-) ;-) ;-)
14:57 tcohen you can have record.abs changed locally :-P just don't add that to the patch so the QA team doesn't fail it
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15:14 tcohen @later tell fridolin can u update us on the status of bug 14375
15:14 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded.
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15:15 Dyrcona wifi--
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15:22 nlegrand cait: I have the final word about my plugins problems, it was the permissions! On our production system we have custom premissions, they were clashing with plugins... So I wasn't able to get the CAN_user_plugins, even when superlibrarian... So much time on this one ><
15:28 cait oh
15:28 cait at least you know hat to look out for
15:29 cait hola tcohen
15:33 tcohen hola
15:33 wahanui hey, tcohen
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15:54 drojf evening
15:55 cait hi drojf
15:58 drojf hi cait
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17:46 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
17:46 mtompset @seen jcamins
17:46 huginn` mtompset: jcamins was last seen in #koha 23 hours, 17 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <jcamins> In order for Koha to still be useful you would have to update the Zebra configuration too.
17:46 mtompset @seen tcohen
17:46 huginn` mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 13 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <tcohen> hola
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18:43 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
18:43 huginn` tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 20.9°C (3:40 PM ART on July 29, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling).
18:44 bag @wunder 97215
18:44 huginn` bag: The current temperature in Mt Tabor, Portland, Oregon is 25.1°C (11:00 AM PDT on July 29, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect until 9 PM PDT Friday...
18:45 bag supposed to be over 40 today
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18:56 cait hi #koha :)
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19:39 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13851: Fix typo in POD <[…]e0441bf3d80e6ae4a> / Bug 13851: (QA followup) Unit Tests <[…]dcf39a4cc7eec6216> / Bug 13851: Replace waiting holds logic in with Koha Objects <[…]ommitdiff;h=062f3
19:54 mtompset Greetings, tcohen.
19:55 mtompset Did we ever come to a conclusion about the best way to deal with Koha::RecordProcessor?
19:55 mtompset I was hoping jcamins would comment. :)
19:55 mtompset And greetings, cait. :)
19:56 cait hi there
19:58 cait i am not sure he is on the mailing lists
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20:09 mtompset jcamins is not on the mailing lists?! That would seem rather strange to avoid koha-devel.
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20:17 rangi morning
20:18 rangi mtompset: if you want to avoid yet another half informed rehashing of why we aren't using moose, or some other bikeshedding crap, staying off the koha-devel list is a perfectly valid thing to do
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20:20 mtompset okay, that makes some sense.
20:20 rangi plus he doesnt do development on koha anymore
20:20 mtompset Did you see my question about Koha::RecordProcessor and tcohen's reply?
20:21 rangi yeah
20:21 rangi gotta say $object is a horrible horrible name for a variable
20:21 mtompset Granted.
20:21 rangi my $filter
20:22 rangi would make the code a bunch more readable
20:22 mtompset but the concept behind my suggested patch makes more sense than the tweak that tcohen was pondering?
20:23 mtompset ^but^but does^
20:24 rangi id have to read the full code
20:24 cait mtompset: sorry was afk - house chores
20:24 mtompset cait: No problem. :)
20:26 rangi they both do different things afaict
20:26 mtompset well, kind of.
20:27 rangi your one sets stuff once
20:27 rangi on the new
20:27 cdickinson @wunder lower hutt
20:27 huginn` cdickinson: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 5.7°C (8:20 AM NZST on July 30, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Rising).
20:27 mtompset right.
20:27 rangi his one, options could change between the new and the process
20:27 mtompset so perhaps we need both?
20:27 rangi you could use the same filter, with different options, instead of making a new one
20:27 rangi if you want to process 2 sets of records differently
20:28 rangi maybe both yes
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20:39 tcohen hi mtompset
20:39 mtompset Greetings, tcohen. :)
20:46 mtompset You know you are trying to do too much at once when two Ubuntu and two Debian VMs are running on your machine. :)
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20:54 rangi @seen oleonard
20:54 huginn` rangi: oleonard was last seen in #koha 21 weeks, 5 days, 2 hours, 59 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <oleonard> That's very strange squash. I'm sorry, I don't know what's going on.
20:59 bag 21 weeks is a long time
21:00 cait yeah
21:00 cait but hopefully he will be back soon
21:01 pianohacker vacation, sabbatical, less community involvement, what?
21:01 pianohacker anyone know?
21:01 pianohacker oh, hey cait
21:01 cait hi pianohacker
21:01 rangi i pinged him on the tweets
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21:03 cait pianohacker: anotherproject i think
21:03 cait some website?
21:03 tcohen1 pianohacker: he's working on another project for a while
21:03 cait i talked a bit to him on twitter every few weeks - he hasn't forgotten about us :)
21:03 pianohacker ah, cool :)
21:03 tcohen1 he misses us too, and will be back sooner than we think
21:04 cait yep
21:05 tcohen1 "Hopefully back for real in the fall. I miss you guys!"
21:06 cait ... we do too
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21:13 * Francesca waves
21:14 mtompset Greetings, Francesca bag. :)
21:14 Francesca hey mtompset
21:14 wahanui well, mtompset is catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry.
21:15 Francesca haha ok
21:15 mtompset Strangely, that is true still.
21:15 bag hola
21:15 wahanui privet, bag
21:15 Francesca hola bag
21:15 mtompset I just had a 15 minute phone call with a supporter. :)
21:15 Francesca a good call?
21:17 mtompset Strangely, yes.
21:18 mtompset I usually dread phone calls from supporters who aren't close friends.
21:18 Francesca ok
21:18 Francesca ugh early morning lectures are the worst
21:18 mtompset Then stop giving them? ;)
21:19 mtompset (I realize that is probably not it at all :P)
21:19 Francesca I have to attend them
21:21 tcohen1 hi bag
21:21 bag you tcohen1 - why the 1 today?  tcohen1 replies - because I am number 1 !!!!
21:21 bag s/you/yo
21:25 tcohen1 hah
21:35 tcohen manuel just started to crawl, backwards
21:36 tcohen he's almost doing if forward
21:39 Francesca cute
21:42 cait :)
21:47 wizzyrea \o/ crawling! Now the fun begins.
21:50 * Francesca waves at wizzyrea
21:51 cdickinson people of #koha, don't judge me, but I'm about to upgrade to Windows 10
21:52 Francesca I'm so judging you :P
21:53 Francesca (no I'm not) I used to be a windows user too
21:53 wizzyrea totally judging you
21:53 wizzyrea ;)
21:53 Francesca hey wizzyrea
21:53 wahanui wizzyrea doesn't exist anymore
21:53 wizzyrea hiya
21:53 Francesca wahanui thinks you don't exist
21:53 wahanui Francesca: excuse me?
21:53 cdickinson I want wahanui to say something about me
21:53 wizzyrea what do you want him to say?
21:54 cdickinson I have no idea
21:54 Francesca how do I make wahanui say I love doctor who about me instead of I love the 11th doctor
21:54 wizzyrea cdickinson is <reply> I run Windows. Don't judge me.
21:54 wizzyrea cdickinson?
21:54 wahanui I run Windows. Don't judge me.
21:54 cdickinson lol
21:54 Francesca hahahahaha
21:54 Francesca I love it
21:55 wizzyrea literal Francesca
21:55 wahanui wizzyrea: Francesca =is= <reply> I love the 11th doctor!
21:55 wizzyrea forget Francesca
21:55 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot francesca
21:55 Francesca francesca is <reply> I love Doctor Who
21:55 cdickinson it feels so taboo
21:55 cdickinson a Linux admin who runs Windows
21:55 wizzyrea francesca?
21:55 wahanui I love Doctor Who
21:55 Francesca oh whoops that will only work on my other one
21:55 Francesca cdickinson
21:55 wahanui I run Windows. Don't judge me.
21:55 wizzyrea cdickinson is also a Linux admin who runs Windows. (blasphemer.)
21:55 wahanui okay, wizzyrea.
21:56 Francesca I an windows 8 last year
21:56 Francesca don't judge me for my past actions :P
21:56 Francesca and now I run mac
21:56 wizzyrea thus ends your bot training session.
21:56 Francesca not sure thats much better in the eyes of these guys
21:56 Francesca love it
21:56 Francesca bot training is fun
21:56 Francesca wahanui botsnack cookie
21:56 wahanui thanks Francesca :)
21:57 cdickinson Francesca: it's unix so it has that going for it, I'm not a fan of Apple itself more than anything
21:57 wizzyrea I used to use a mac. then it started to feel like Windows
21:57 Francesca hahaha
21:57 Francesca I take it thats not a good thing
21:58 * Francesca should be working
21:58 Francesca sigh
21:58 wizzyrea if I have to use something that isn't linux, I'd actually prefer windows at this point.
21:58 wizzyrea which is alarming.
21:58 cdickinson sorry, Francesca, should I stop bothering you and let you work :P
21:58 Francesca its all good
21:58 cdickinson wizzyrea: it's gotten better... if that's possible
21:58 Francesca I don;t want to work
21:58 Francesca what windows?
21:58 wahanui somebody said windows was a pretty good Wine emulator
21:59 Francesca what is windows 10 like
21:59 Francesca ok wahanui
21:59 cdickinson I don't have it yet
21:59 cdickinson running a quick defrag and then going to force my Windows 8.1 to upgrade, because the Windows 10 reservation icon thing disappeared...
22:00 Francesca Well tell me what its like later then
22:00 Francesca I am totally a mac and ubuntu girl
22:00 wizzyrea there is such a thing as a quick defrag?
22:00 cdickinson wizzyrea: there is when you don't have much stuff on your OS drive I guess
22:01 Francesca what is a quick defray?
22:01 cdickinson Francesca: one half of that I can fully get behind
22:01 Francesca defrag
22:01 Francesca stupid auto correct
22:01 Francesca I like mac because of the music software
22:01 wizzyrea the last time I had to defrag anything was on windows 98. Maybe I did it once or twice on XP. I haven't used vista or 7 enough to know anything about fixing them.
22:01 Francesca everything for music runs so much better on mac
22:01 Francesca what is defrag?
22:01 cdickinson Francesca: defragmenting is basically rearranging the data on your discs so the blocks aren't all jumbled up
22:02 cdickinson disk*
22:02 cdickinson this makes accessing data on hard drives a lot faster if it needs to be done
22:02 cdickinson cause it's all nicely in order
22:02 Francesca ah right
22:03 Francesca so useful for os upgrades?
22:03 cdickinson useful for everything, really
22:03 cdickinson don't do it to a computer with an SSD, though
22:03 Francesca I'll take it on your word
22:03 cdickinson cause it makes no difference and just wears it out
22:03 Francesca oook
22:04 cdickinson defragging on Linux at least isn't necessary, the file systems just take care of it as far as I know
22:04 Francesca I'm in an essay writing class
22:04 cdickinson heh
22:04 Francesca my brain cannot take in anymore stuff
22:04 cdickinson I'll stop talking then, gotta get ready anyway
22:05 Francesca cdickinson
22:05 wahanui it has been said that cdickinson is a Linux admin who runs Windows. (blasphemer.)
22:05 cdickinson heh
22:05 Francesca my essay writing class isn't actually full
22:06 Francesca you still might be able to get into my stream if you really wanted to
22:06 Francesca its really useful
22:07 cdickinson I'd love to, but I don't think I could at this point for a variety of reasons :P
22:07 cdickinson do they take attendances?
22:07 Francesca yeah
22:07 Francesca why?
22:07 cdickinson can't just waltz into the lecture then, poop
22:08 Francesca I could put you in touch with the course coordinator?
22:08 cdickinson Let me think about it a bit more, Francesca
22:08 Francesca sure
22:09 Francesca I think it runs in ti 3 as well
22:09 Francesca so no rush
22:09 cdickinson yeah
22:09 Francesca I'll see you at 2
22:09 cdickinson thanks for caring enough to keep asking about it, though haha
22:09 cdickinson yeah, see you then
22:10 cdickinson time for a shower, seriously, it takes ages to get in on the train
22:10 Francesca bye cdickinson
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22:19 eythian hi
22:22 Francesca hi eythian
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22:31 rangi aargh
22:31 rangi i cant remember
22:31 rangi do we use 490 or 440 for series now?
22:31 rangi we should use more marc
22:31 wahanui http://02varvara.files.wordpre[…]no-bear.jpg?w=800
22:33 rangi 490
22:35 Francesca_InALecture hey rangi
22:50 bag 490 and 830 I think
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23:29 Francesca yuuus lecture finished
23:30 Francesca freedom is mine
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23:37 eythian ^-- I'm starting to wonder where the line between spam and performance art gets drawn
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23:41 eythian @marc 260
23:41 huginn` eythian: Information relating to the publication, printing, distribution, issue, release, or production of a work. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,e,f,g,3,6,8]
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