IRC log for #koha, 2015-07-30

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00:02 Francesca joined #koha
00:10 * Francesca waves hello
00:10 Francesca good afternoon #koha
00:12 Francesca @wunder wlg
00:12 huginn` Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (12:00 PM NZST on July 30, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
00:39 mtompset Uh oh... It's been an hour and a half... cdickinson isn't back.
00:39 mtompset Must have gone horribly wrong. ;)
00:41 Francesca he's around
00:41 Francesca I'm chatting to him on fb
00:41 mtompset *whew* :)
00:42 Francesca he's up at the uni
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00:42 Francesca ohhh would you look at that
00:42 Francesca cdickinphone has returned
00:43 cdickinphone Huzzah
00:43 Francesca mtompset: you sound almost keen for something to go horribly wrong
00:44 Francesca hey cdickenphone you up for more bot training?
00:45 cdickinphone I'm at my destination, so the only things that can happen is both Vic and 2degrees have the poop hit the fan
00:45 cdickinphone Yep, i am
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00:46 Francesca whahanui forget cdickenphone
00:46 cdickinphone Wahanui never knew me
00:46 wahanui cdickinphone: sorry...
00:46 cdickinphone Hehe
00:46 Francesca hahahaha
00:48 Francesca cdickinphone is <reply> cdickinphone is not known on this channel
00:48 Francesca wonder if that will work
00:48 Francesca cdickinphone
00:48 wahanui cdickinphone is not known on this channel
00:48 Francesca hahahaha
00:48 Francesca cdickinphone what do you think?
00:49 cdickinphone It's, perfect
00:49 Francesca bot training is fun
00:49 wahanui i already had it that way, Francesca.
00:49 Francesca hahaha ok wahanui
00:49 Francesca I believe you
00:49 Francesca wahanui: Have a botsnack cookie
00:49 wahanui thanks Francesca :)
00:50 cdickinphone Seriously, is he sentient or what
00:50 Francesca dunno
00:50 Francesca wizzyrea (if you're around) is wahanui sentient?
00:51 Francesca piano lesson time
00:51 Francesca gotta go
00:52 cdickinphone Okay, have fun
00:52 Francesca I'll see you at 2
00:52 Francesca subway we are coming for you
00:52 cdickinphone Yep :) and froghurt
00:52 Francesca yum
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02:37 indradg @seen eythian
02:37 huginn` indradg: eythian was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 56 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <eythian> @marc 260
02:38 indradg @later tell eythian about bug 14619
02:38 huginn` indradg: The operation succeeded.
02:38 indradg bug 14619
02:38 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14619 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , clients-marc-MARC21.po missing
03:00 mtompset @later tell Francesca I was worried about the upgrade process, because I'm next. :P
03:00 huginn` mtompset: The operation succeeded.
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03:04 mtompset Nice bump. I blame Acronis and MS. :P
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03:52 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha pianohacker
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05:02 * Francesca waves
05:02 Francesca @wunder wlg
05:02 huginn` Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (4:30 PM NZST on July 30, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
05:04 Francesca ugggh coold
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05:19 AmitG hi all
05:20 Francesca hey AmitG
05:33 AmitG heya Francesca
05:33 wahanui I love Doctor Who
05:34 Francesca yus
05:34 Francesca that is true wahanui
05:34 Francesca have a botsnack cookie
05:34 eythian wahanui: Francesca is also <reply>Who\?
05:34 wahanui bugger all, i dunno, eythian
05:35 Francesca hahahahaha
05:35 eythian oh, that doesn't work
05:35 Francesca so polite wahanui
05:35 Francesca wahanui forget me
05:35 wahanui Francesca: I forgot me
05:35 eythian wahanui: Francesca is also <reply>Who#
05:35 wahanui okay, eythian.
05:35 eythian wahanui: Francesca =~ s/#/?/
05:35 wahanui OK, eythian
05:35 Francesca bot training for the win
05:35 Francesca whats that gonna do?
05:36 eythian nothing too exciting
05:36 Francesca Lets give it a try
05:36 Francesca Francesca
05:36 wahanui Who?
05:36 Francesca gee thanks
05:37 Francesca I have been forgotten
05:38 eythian you did ask for it
05:38 Francesca true
05:39 eythian like, literally :)
05:39 Francesca I know :)
05:39 Francesca Whatsup eythian?
05:39 eythian well, we've just finished a 4.5 hour team lunch at the pub...
05:39 eythian not much else will be happening today
05:40 Francesca woo long meeting
05:40 Francesca home time now?
05:40 eythian pretty much, yeah
05:40 Francesca cool
05:40 Francesca I'll be in tomorrow
05:41 Francesca wahanui: wizzyrea is also <reply> "lavamind is erupting patches all over us!"
05:41 wahanui okay, Francesca.
05:41 Francesca wizzyrea
05:41 wahanui wizzyrea doesn't exist anymore
05:42 Francesca ok
05:42 Francesca that didn't work
05:42 Francesca (I found the quote on the dashboard)
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05:47 cdickinson @wunder lower hutt
05:47 huginn` cdickinson: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 6.4°C (5:40 PM NZST on July 30, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
05:47 cdickinson yeah, seriously
05:47 Francesca ugggh
05:47 Francesca why doesn't windchill come up for wellington?
05:47 Francesca @wunder wlg
05:47 huginn` Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (5:30 PM NZST on July 30, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
05:48 Francesca wahanui: rangi is <reply> "there is so much stuff in Koha that is a result of 'omg my staff wont do what they are told to. Please punish the whole world for me.'"
05:48 wahanui francesca: i haven't a clue
05:48 Francesca awwwww
05:48 cdickinson it may be the quote marks
05:48 Francesca ok lets try that again
05:48 eythian it's mostly the 'is'
05:49 Francesca right so no is then?
05:49 cdickinson there's*
05:49 eythian you can escape it with \, but there's also the quote database for that stuff anyway
05:49 eythian @quote random
05:49 huginn` eythian: Quote #255: "<gmcharlt> if wahanui is an infobot, does that make it's mom a databot?" (added by wizzyrea at 10:39 PM, June 03, 2013)
05:51 Francesca wahanui: rangi is <reply> There is so much stuff in Koha that is a result of 'omg my staff wont do what they are told to. Please punish the whole world for me.
05:51 wahanui bugger all, i dunno, francesca
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05:51 eythian @quote search punish
05:51 Francesca how come is works for other people but not rangi?
05:51 huginn` eythian: 1 found: #173: "rangi: there is so much stuff in Koha that is a..."
05:51 eythian it's already there
05:51 Francesca right
05:51 Francesca so how do I make wahanui say it as a response
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05:52 Francesca like if someone says hey Francesca wahanui says:
05:52 cdickinson wow, Internet is wonky tonight
05:52 Francesca hey francesca
05:52 wahanui I love Doctor Who
05:52 eythian I wouldn't bother, no point duplicating stuff
05:52 Francesca awww
05:52 cdickinson have to come up with something funny then :P
05:52 Francesca cdickinson and I have been bot playing
05:53 Francesca or training
05:53 Francesca whatever you want to call it
05:54 Francesca cdickinson: you're at catalyst more often than I am
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05:54 Francesca whats something that would make a good response for rangi?
05:54 Francesca and cdickinphone is here
05:54 Francesca hey cdickinphone what happened to dickinson?
05:55 Francesca grr autocorrect
05:55 cdickinphone In and out of consciousness
05:57 Francesca wahanui: dickinson is also <reply> cdickinson is drifting in and out of consciousness
05:57 wahanui OK, Francesca.
05:57 Francesca wonder if that'll work?
05:58 cdickinphone Weird, sent something out from the desktop and it didn't come through
05:58 Francesca ok
05:58 cdickinson our wireless here at home is playing up
05:58 Francesca hmm
05:58 cdickinphone There it is
05:58 Francesca network provider?
05:58 cdickinphone Your messages arrived immediately
05:59 cdickinphone I think my PC likes you :p
05:59 Francesca awww I'm touched
05:59 Francesca wahanui: forget cdickinphonw
05:59 wahanui Francesca, I didn't have anything matching cdickinphonw
05:59 Francesca ok wrong spelling
05:59 Francesca wahanui: forget cdickinphone
05:59 wahanui Francesca: I forgot cdickinphone
05:59 cdickinson cdickinphone*
06:00 cdickinphone Better but still awful
06:00 Francesca wahanui: cdickinphone is <reply> I think my pc likes you :P
06:00 wahanui OK, Francesca.
06:00 Francesca cdickinphone
06:00 wahanui I think Francesca's pc likes you :P
06:00 Francesca hahahahaha that was not was I expecting
06:01 * Francesca facepalms
06:01 * cdickinphone slow claps
06:01 Francesca I'm dying of laughter over here
06:01 Francesca wahanui forget cdickinphone
06:01 wahanui Francesca: I forgot cdickinphone
06:02 Francesca lets try that again
06:03 Francesca wahanui: cdickinphone is <reply> "I think my pc likes you :P"
06:03 wahanui OK, Francesca.
06:03 Francesca cdickinphone
06:03 wahanui "I think Francesca's pc likes you :P"
06:03 * Francesca faceplates again
06:03 Francesca I give up
06:04 Francesca wahanui forget cdickinphone
06:04 wahanui Francesca: I forgot cdickinphone
06:04 Francesca sorry about all this #koha
06:04 Francesca I'll stop now
06:04 cdickinphone Heh
06:04 Francesca oh shush
06:05 cdickinphone :p but watching you is funny
06:05 Francesca grrrrr
06:07 Francesca wahanui forget Francesca
06:07 wahanui Francesca: I forgot francesca
06:07 cdickinphone ?
06:08 Francesca wahanui: I am <reply> Installing Bugzilla ia now counted as the root of all evil
06:08 wahanui ...but francesca is <reply>no, I said I forgot francesca...
06:08 Francesca ok sorry
06:09 Francesca Francesca is <reply> essay writing = root of all evil
06:09 cdickinphone Lol
06:09 cdickinphone You still working on that?
06:09 Francesca I don't think it worked
06:09 Francesca Francesca
06:09 wahanui no, I said I forgot francesca
06:09 Francesca what did you do cdickinphone?
06:10 cdickinphone O.o nothing haha
06:10 Francesca you know I'm starting to think that you're right about the sentient bot thing
06:11 Francesca I said I'd stop playing with the bots
06:11 Francesca I might be annoying someone
06:11 Francesca sorry #koha
06:11 Francesca again
06:12 cdickinphone Shall we discuss our plan of action in private?
06:12 cdickinphone Need to prepare for the storm
06:12 Francesca private chat window?
06:14 Francesca I gotta go
06:14 Francesca I'll come back later
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06:41 Francesca cdickinphone
06:41 wahanui The internet likes to muck around with our heads
06:41 cdickinphone That fits
06:41 Francesca we're going to have dinner now
06:41 Francesca see later cdickinphone, other inhabitants of #koha
06:41 cdickinphone That's the only reason for my existence
06:41 Francesca what the internet screwing around with your head? :P
06:41 cdickinphone See  later Francesca
06:42 Francesca bye
06:42 cdickinphone Yep
06:42 Francesca lol
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06:49 reiveune hello
06:49 wahanui hi, reiveune
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06:58 gaetan_B hello
06:58 wahanui bonjour, gaetan_B
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07:00 alex_a bonjour
07:00 wahanui kia ora, alex_a
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07:08 AmitG heya alex_a
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07:46 fridolin hie there
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07:59 Francesca hello
07:59 Francesca cdickenphone are you there?
07:59 Francesca or cdickenson
08:00 Francesca dickinson that is
08:00 Francesca grrr
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08:23 Francesca @wunder wlg
08:23 huginn` Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 7.0°C (8:00 PM NZST on July 30, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
08:35 nlegrand hey #koha
08:35 Francesca hey nlegrand
08:35 nlegrand hey Francesca
08:35 wahanui Francesca is a sleep deprived zombie
08:36 Francesca hahaha he said it!
08:36 Francesca (it is true though)
08:49 cdickinson wow
08:49 cdickinson who set that
08:52 Francesca me
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09:01 Francesca wahanui
09:01 wahanui yes, Francesca?
09:01 Francesca what are you?
09:02 Francesca cdickinphone
09:02 wahanui The internet likes to muck around with our heads
09:02 Francesca watch this
09:02 Francesca wahanui what are you
09:02 wahanui rumour has it i am a bot
09:02 Francesca are you also a sentient bot with sass
09:02 cdickinson wat
09:03 Francesca wahanui are you a sentient bot with sass
09:03 wahanui OK, Francesca.
09:03 Francesca that worked before
09:04 Francesca wahanui: wahanui is also <reply>wahanui is rumoured to be a sentient bot with sass
09:04 wahanui okay, Francesca.
09:04 Francesca wahanui
09:04 wahanui yes, Francesca?
09:04 Francesca gaaah
09:04 cdickinson overridden
09:04 Francesca I really should't be doing this so late at night
09:04 Francesca what do you mean cdickinson
09:05 cdickinson Francesca: maybe he's programmed to say "yes, <person?" instead of that response we can program into him when we ask wahanui himself
09:06 Francesca I have
09:06 Francesca If i ask him in an individual chat window he says gotcha
09:06 Francesca wahanui are you a bot
09:06 wahanui OK, Francesca.
09:06 Francesca yep works in individual chat
09:06 cdickinson hmm
09:06 Francesca we're probably driving people insane
09:07 Francesca sorry #koha
09:07 cdickinson bots are hard
09:07 Francesca bots are freakin awesome
09:07 Francesca isn't that right wahanui
09:07 cdickinson and freakin awesome
09:09 Francesca night #koha
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09:14 mveron Hi #koha
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09:19 Francesca hello mveron
09:23 mveron hello Francesca :-)
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09:47 cait good morning #koha
09:49 mveron hi cait :-)
09:50 Bibin Helo all i'm trying to install koha on ubuntu but i get awk: fatal: cannot open file `/etc/mysql/koha-common.cnf' for reading (No such file or directory)
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09:50 Bibin anny tips
09:53 cait hi mveron :)
09:54 cait Bibin: which instructions are you using?
09:54 mveron @wunder Allschwil
09:54 huginn` mveron: The current temperature in Bern-Belp, Switzerland is 18.0°C (11:50 AM CEST on July 30, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
09:54 Bibin[…]ubuntu_-_packages
09:55 Bibin i used old stable
09:59 cdickinson Bibin:[…]_Packages_on_Koha
10:01 Bibin thx  i take a look
10:09 cait hm no joubu
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10:22 xarragon Viktor: Hello
10:23 xarragon For logging events and things, shoudl I use a timestamp or datetime format?
10:24 xarragon Because C4::Dates does not seem to handle timestamp format.
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10:36 drojf hi #koha
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11:31 xarragon Hmm, how are date formats controlled in Koha?
11:31 xarragon I see the C4::Dates class, and the controlling syspref item.
11:31 xarragon But is there another system, like the localization?
11:32 xarragon Or it just the syspref, and I should not really care about the formatting in the suer-visible parts that much?
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12:26 nengard morning #koha
12:26 cait morning nengard
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12:27 druthb morning nengard, cait. :)
12:27 cait morning druthb :)
12:28 nengard cait did you see my new family member?
12:28 nengard
12:28 cait very cute :)
12:28 cait but you shouldn't let him drink at this young age :P
12:29 nengard That is all dani's fault
12:29 nengard she was fostering him
12:29 nengard I told her the same thing!!!
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12:30 jcamins nengard: don't let him get in the habit of sticking his paw in your glass. We can't break Myshkin of that habit.
12:30 nengard oh yeah - I knocked him off the table after i took the picture :) hehe
12:31 * nengard is a bad mommy
12:31 jcamins Hehe.
12:36 tcohen morning
12:37 cait morning tcohen
12:37 * tcohen got asleep and is not yet at the office o/
12:37 druthb :)
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12:38 francharb good morning all|!
12:41 nengard morning
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13:09 francharb I try to set up a new framework and when I tried to hide the 656 field, the $9 subfield remains visible. Any suggestions?
13:10 francharb I used the hidden value (set up to 8), then the tab value (set up to -1)
13:10 francharb and I always have the $9
13:11 francharb I'm on master
13:11 francharb What am I doing wrong?
13:11 cait francharb: remove the thesaurus
13:12 francharb thanks cait!
13:12 cait i think that was it - hopefully remembering correctly
13:12 cait the thesaurus link from the $a int hat case i think
13:13 francharb thank you so much cait! it works!
13:13 francharb :)
13:13 cait :)
13:13 cait i think it just tries to make sure that the authid can be properly added - so $9 is shown while thesaurus linking is active
13:14 francharb I get it! Thanks for the explanation!!
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13:30 tcohen hi
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14:27 drojf looks loke the nz timezone became way chattier than europe
14:29 tcohen well, this is the american tz :-D
14:30 drojf europe is about to call it a day ;)
14:31 xarragon win 4
14:31 * druthb waves to drojf and tcohen
14:31 xarragon whopsie
14:31 drojf druthb!
14:31 druthb :)
14:32 tcohen hi druthb xarragon
14:32 pianohacker hey, tcohen, how are ya?
14:32 tcohen i'm doing great,
14:32 pianohacker I have a crazy zebra question to help get your day going!
14:32 * druthb is looking at a couple of old, old Koha bugs, and thinking, "you know…  "
14:32 tcohen awesome :-D
14:33 * tcohen was writing tab-completion for koha-indexer
14:33 tcohen while a migrated Koha reindexes
14:33 pianohacker Why do some utterly gigantic records still fail to fetch from Zebra even though we've fixed bug 11096?
14:33 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11096 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, CLOSED FIXED, Koha cannot retrieve big records from Zebra
14:33 tcohen that's a broad question
14:33 pianohacker (we're talking on the order of 365K with ~1500 items)
14:34 tcohen you might be stressing ZEbra to its limits
14:34 pianohacker yaz-client muttered something about Maximum-record-size
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14:34 tcohen yeah
14:34 tcohen the zebra people told me we shouldn't rely on yaz-client, though
14:34 tcohen and use zoomsh instead
14:34 tcohen (fr debugging
14:35 pianohacker Ohhhhhhhhh, wait, the maximum data packet size defaults to 1M, and that record up there is probably north of that when encoded as MARCXML. Is that it?
14:35 tcohen yes
14:36 pianohacker (thanks for the zoomsh tip, though, never had a particular love for yaz-client)
14:36 pianohacker Is there a way to change that for Koha? yaz-client has a switch I'm about to try
14:39 tcohen i can't find the specific option, but ->option() seems the best place to start (Net::Z3950::ZOOM
14:40 pianohacker okay, will investigate. Any idea from your own work what would be a sane upper limit?
14:40 pianohacker My gut instinct is just to do 10M and theoretically never run into a problem, but...
14:41 * tcohen is intrigued by how zebra sets that limit
14:41 tcohen they have lots of hardcoded limits
14:41 pianohacker yup...
14:41 tcohen i think it is not only a problem of Koha's connection, but Zebra's configuration
14:41 pianohacker lots of "max"s in the configs and probably more in the source :/
14:42 pianohacker well, thanks very much
14:42 pianohacker tcohen++
14:42 pianohacker have a lot more to poke at now :)'
14:47 * tcohen is compiling zebra again
14:48 drojf why?
14:49 nengard hi all - has anyone done any work on creating a koha index that is dependent on indicators?
14:49 nengard so if indicator = 1 then index is xyz ... etc
14:49 tcohen drojf: just to make sure my dev environment is ready for when it need patching/debuggin?
14:49 nengard looking for some examples maybe to base some new code off of
14:49 tcohen nengard: I did!!!!
14:49 nengard bug number? or git link? or anything??? hehe
14:49 tcohen you are welcome to sign my work :-D
14:50 nengard tcohen++
14:50 tcohen is not indicators specifically, but conditions
14:50 tcohen and the sample test i propose
14:50 tcohen uses indicators :-D
14:50 tcohen[…]_bug.cgi?id=14217
14:50 huginn` Bug 14217: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add a DOM syntax for specifying conditions on indexes
14:50 drojf isn't that done on xslt level? or maybe i misunderstand the question
14:51 tcohen you just add condition="the_condition" to index_subfields definition
14:51 nengard I want to have 3 search indexes.  So 521 ind1=1 is reading level search
14:51 nengard and 521 ind1=2 is interest level search
14:51 nengard etc etc
14:51 nengard
14:51 nengard i got the numbers wrong
14:51 nengard but you see what i mean
14:51 drojf ah now i get it
14:52 tcohen with my patch you would add
14:52 tcohen condition="@ind1='1'" and specify the index for it, and so on
14:53 nengard thank you so much - this will help a lot
14:53 tcohen nengard: I know :-D
14:53 tcohen We'd be even i you sign it
14:53 tcohen :-D
14:54 nengard I will give it a whirl ASAP!!! today is a lot of phone calls
14:56 pastebot "tcohen" at pasted "nengard: with my extension to the DOM XML file syntax" (11 lines) at
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15:05 nengard tcohen i was asking for barton - so i shared your example with him and asked him to sign off on your dev :)
15:05 nengard then you can both help each other out and learn from each other :)
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15:07 tcohen pianohacker_dnd: i just remembered that for testing 11096, I found a zebrasrv option switch for specifying such a limit
15:07 tcohen zebrasrv --help => -k kilobytes
15:08 pianohacker_dnd tcohen: ah, right, the zebrasrv switch. Is that the only impediment?
15:09 tcohen i think so, I don't remember all the zebra's C code (and never will)
15:11 * barton shudders at the thought of reading zebra's C code.
15:11 tcohen nengard: share the knowledge? never! that's for pro-open source people
15:11 tcohen lol
15:12 nengard silly tcohen
15:12 tcohen nengard: :-P
15:13 fridolin seeeeee u
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15:56 reiveune bye
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16:17 tcohen hey, my 3.20 instances are the only 3.20 sending data to hea
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16:23 drojf tcohen: so much for anonymity :P
16:57 bag ah we aren’t on 3.20 yet tcohen
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20:24 bag @wunder 97315
20:24 huginn` bag: Error: No such location could be found.
20:24 bag @wunder 97215
20:24 huginn` bag: The current temperature in Kittyland Love Center, E Tabor, Portland, Oregon is 33.4°C (1:24 PM PDT on July 30, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa (Falling). Excessive heat warning in effect from noon today to 9 PM PDT Friday...
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20:45 Francesca @wunder wlg
20:45 huginn` Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (8:30 AM NZST on July 31, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
21:12 Francesca good morning
21:12 wahanui the only good morning is a dead one
21:12 Francesca well thats depressing
21:12 Francesca anyone around?
21:13 jcamins Who teaches wahanui these things?
21:15 Francesca I teach him some things
21:15 Francesca But I didn't teach him good morning
21:16 * jcamins teaches him some things too.
21:16 Francesca I taught him this
21:16 Francesca wahanui: good evening
21:16 wahanui good evening is the time of day we all look forward too
21:19 Francesca wahanui: good evening
21:19 wahanui evening is the time of day we all look forward too
21:19 Francesca thats better
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21:21 Francesca hey tcohen
21:21 barton How do I render Docboc to man? I'm working on debian/docs/koha-mysql.xml,and I want to see if my changes look ok.
21:21 barton *Docbook
21:22 tcohen hey Francesca
21:22 wahanui Francesca is a sleep deprived zombie
21:22 Francesca wahanui: botsnack cookie
21:22 wahanui :)
21:23 Francesca what sup tocsin?
21:23 Francesca *tcohen
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21:26 Francesca Hey cdickinphone
21:26 wahanui The internet likes to muck around with our heads
21:26 cdickinphone That's not why i'm me today
21:26 Francesca I can change it
21:27 Francesca wahanui: forget cdickinphone
21:27 wahanui Francesca: I forgot cdickinphone
21:27 cdickinphone Lol, i was about to say it's fine but bleh
21:28 Francesca wahanui: cdickinphone is <reply> Bots being good bots make my day
21:28 wahanui :)
21:28 Francesca cdickinphone
21:28 Francesca oh come on
21:29 cdickinphone Too happy to do it, i see
21:29 Francesca cdickinphone
21:29 wahanui cdickinphone is also a sleep deprived zombie
21:29 cdickinphone ._.
21:29 Francesca hahaha
21:31 cdickinphone Just today
21:32 Francesca your just a sleep deprived zombie for today?
21:32 Francesca ok
21:33 cdickinphone Woke up at 6 cause 9am lecture
21:33 Francesca ugh
21:33 cdickinphone Got shaken up by a screwed up dream as well
21:33 ibeardslee tsk tsk .. you're
21:34 * Francesca is too tired to care about spelling right now
21:34 Francesca or grammar for that matter
21:36 * barton thinks that Francesca should give the Koha documentation a wide berth while in that condition ;-)
21:36 * Francesca has no intention of looking at documentation till at least 11.30
21:36 Francesca besides I can't exactly run my vm during a lecture
21:36 Francesca have to take notes
21:36 cdickinphone Write my Koha as a Service documentation for me, Francesca
21:37 Francesca no :P
21:37 cdickinphone :>
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21:37 cdickinphone Aww
21:38 cdickinphone It'd make me happy :p
21:38 Francesca yes but I'm not doing your work for you
21:38 barton morning trea!
21:38 barton howzit going?
21:39 trea good good
21:39 barton kool.
21:39 trea it's sysadmin appreciation day
21:39 trea be sure to let your favorite sysadmin know how much you appreciate them :P
21:39 * Francesca needs to get her eyes checked
21:40 Francesca who are the other sysadmins?
21:40 * cdickinphone waves at Francesca
21:40 Francesca I didn't know you were one?
21:40 trea i work with at least a dozen here in NZ
21:40 trea idk how many are represented in Oregon
21:40 trea :P
21:41 Francesca I'm in nz so only 12 people to track down
21:41 Francesca ish
21:41 cdickinphone There you go, another thing you now know about me, Francesca :p
21:41 cdickinphone Just not for Koha
21:41 Francesca you learn a new thing every day
21:41 Francesca right
21:42 cdickinphone Well, yeah, i learn a lot from you everyday heh
21:42 bag heya trea
21:42 trea bag hi
21:42 cdickinphone Just gotta get that going for Uni again
21:42 Francesca according to my lecturer, one of the late renaissance composers was also a murderer
21:42 trea happy bday
21:43 Francesca hey bag is it your bday?
21:43 trea everyday is bag's bday
21:43 bag happy birthday trea
21:43 Francesca ok
21:43 bag oh yeah btw trea you hit 3 homers in a game yesterday - so go you!!
21:44 trea noice
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21:47 cdickinphone No read only friday for me today...
21:49 Francesca hahaha
21:49 Francesca I'm in the same boat as you cdickinphone
21:50 cdickinphone We'll be suffering together later on at Catalyst so at least we have that going for us :p
21:50 wizzyrea suffering!
21:51 cdickinphone Lol
21:51 Francesca hey its wizzyrea!
21:51 Francesca hey wizzyrea
21:51 wahanui "lavamind is erupting patches all over us!"
21:51 Francesca hahaha ok
21:51 wizzyrea I think you mean "learning awesome things"
21:52 cdickinphone wizzyrea: i have to write documentation, it isn't fun :p
21:52 wizzyrea that was an unexpected response from wahanui.
21:52 Francesca ether my eyes are tired or I really need to get them checked
21:52 Francesca sorry wizzyrea
21:52 wizzyrea :)
21:52 cdickinphone Sentient bot
21:52 wizzyrea hehe sok
21:52 Francesca I think I might've taught him that
21:52 Francesca I also taught him that he was a sentient bot with sass
21:52 wizzyrea I think that came from the quote db from ages ago.
21:52 wizzyrea nice one
21:52 Francesca It was on the dashboard
21:53 Francesca wahanui: what are you
21:53 wahanui it has been said that i am a little bit creepy.
21:53 Francesca wahanui: what are you
21:53 wahanui i guess i am a bot
21:53 Francesca wahanui: what are you
21:53 wahanui i am a bot...
21:53 * Francesca is trying to get him to say the response she taught him last night
21:53 Francesca wahanui: what are you
21:53 wahanui it has been said that i am a little bit creepy.
21:53 * Francesca facepalms
21:53 wizzyrea cdickinphone: I always conceptualise documentation as "no one will be able to use this if I don't tell them how, so I better write it down"
21:54 wizzyrea wahanui: literal what are you
21:54 wahanui wizzyrea: i haven't a clue
21:54 wizzyrea hm.
21:54 wizzyrea literal wahanui
21:54 wahanui wizzyrea: wahanui =is= a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow.|a little bit creepy.|right sometimes|a strange duck|a bot...|rumoured to be a sentient bot with sass
21:54 wizzyrea there it is :)
21:54 wizzyrea it'd get there someday.
21:54 cdickinphone Lol
21:55 Francesca I thought it was an apprioate response
21:55 Francesca since cdickinphone is convinced that wahanui is sentient
21:55 cdickinphone And yes, you're right, wizzyrea
21:55 Francesca who taught wahanui that he was a strange duck?
21:55 wizzyrea it still sucks :)
21:55 wizzyrea not sure, the log might know
21:56 Francesca its kinda entertaining
21:56 cdickinphone Francesca: who cares, he is one
21:56 Francesca playing with bots is becoming a very bad habit of mine
21:56 wizzyrea he's only as strange as his teachers ^.^
21:56 Francesca is wahanui creepy cas he watches people sleep?
21:56 cdickinphone Thaf's us :o
21:56 Francesca he actually said that once
21:56 cdickinphone That's*
21:57 Francesca wahanui: good evening
21:57 wahanui evening is the time of day we all look forward too
21:57 wizzyrea good night
21:57 wahanui I watch you sleep.
21:57 wizzyrea ^
21:57 Francesca creepy
21:57 wizzyrea :)
21:57 bag @wunder 97215
21:57 tcohen lol
21:57 huginn` bag: The current temperature in Kittyland Love Center, E Tabor, Portland, Oregon is 36.4°C (2:57 PM PDT on July 30, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 17%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa (Falling). Excessive heat warning in effect until 9 PM PDT Friday...
21:57 cdickinphone That's hot
21:57 bag still going up too
21:57 Francesca kitty love center??
21:57 tcohen wizzyrea: i pushed that patch into 3.20 already :-D
21:58 tcohen sorry for the messaging mess
21:58 bag yeah that is funny - but we do love kitties
21:58 wizzyrea which one?
21:58 wahanui which one is, like, that? The fixed navbar
21:58 Francesca I love kitties too
21:58 wizzyrea literal which one
21:58 wahanui wizzyrea: which one =is= that? The fixed navbar?
21:58 wizzyrea forget which one
21:58 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot which one
21:58 cdickinphone @wunder nzwn
21:58 huginn` cdickinphone: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (9:30 AM NZST on July 31, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
21:58 wizzyrea tcohen - which patch?
21:58 Francesca ugh
21:58 Francesca its colder out than 10
21:58 wizzyrea that's at the airport.
21:58 bag We could average our 2 and have a nice day
21:58 wizzyrea 36 is too hot.
21:59 Francesca i AGREE
21:59 bag I think it’s supposed to be over 40 today
21:59 wizzyrea that is much too hot.
21:59 Francesca woow
21:59 Francesca way way way too hot
21:59 cdickinphone 25 is warm but not unbearable
21:59 wizzyrea 10 is not actually cold.
21:59 Francesca it could have warmed up now
21:59 tcohen barton: did you find the answer to the docbook question?
22:00 Francesca according to my cell phone it feels like 4 degrees outside
22:01 * Francesca is thinking that her eyesight just got worse
22:01 Francesca again
22:01 wizzyrea tcohen: I'm confused ^.^
22:01 tcohen @later tell barton you should do xsltproc /usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet​/docbook-xsl/manpages/docbook.xsl debian/docs/koha-mysql.xml | less
22:01 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded.
22:02 barton tcohen: yep.
22:02 Francesca for those who love cats:[…]y-Cats-in-command
22:02 tcohen wizzyrea: nevermind, I'm talking about 14044
22:02 wizzyrea ohhhh
22:02 wizzyrea I wondered :)
22:02 cdickinphone Felt like that to me
22:02 cdickinphone :/
22:02 cdickinphone When was the last time you replaced your glasses, Francesca?
22:02 wizzyrea yeah it doesn't apply to 3.18
22:02 Francesca last year
22:02 wizzyrea go get an eye exam :P
22:02 wizzyrea you won't regret it.
22:02 Francesca they're already on minus 6
22:03 Francesca I know I know
22:03 barton tcohen: it's all on the wiki, if I'd taken the time to look:[…]on_as_DocBook_RFC
22:03 * wizzyrea goes full mom-mode on you
22:03 Francesca but I only got these glasses at the end of last year
22:03 wizzyrea you can keep the frames and get only new lenses
22:03 * Francesca appreciates the concern
22:03 tcohen ok, have a nice friday kiwis, and see u around
22:03 wizzyrea later tcohen
22:03 Francesca bye tcohen
22:03 Francesca have a nice day
22:03 tcohen thanks
22:04 cdickinphone Francesca: whether you like it or not :p
22:04 barton Francesca: only -6? lightweight B-)  <- there's a winky face in there, but you can't see it behind the coke-bottle lenses
22:04 Francesca maybe I'm just tired or something but every time I'm in this particular lecture  I can't read the white board
22:05 Francesca and I'm sitting in the front row :(
22:05 barton well *obviously* they need ot pu the lecture on IRC :-)
22:06 Francesca unlikely to happen unfortunately
22:06 cdickinphone Move the whiteboard closer
22:06 wizzyrea whiteboards are terrible for glare.
22:06 wizzyrea really hard to see.
22:06 Francesca mmm yeah
22:07 Francesca but I'm getting headaches as well
22:07 * Francesca will be ringing the optometrist today
22:07 Francesca cdickinphone: the whiteboard is attached to the wall
22:07 Francesca kinda hard to move it closer
22:07 cdickinphone I thought so
22:08 Francesca you ever been in HUTL119?
22:08 wizzyrea possibly though, front row might not be the best angle. But if you are getting headaches, then yes.
22:08 wizzyrea call the dr.
22:08 wizzyrea also,
22:09 Francesca wizzyrea: I have an awesome new hat to show you later
22:09 Francesca and I will be bringing my guitar
22:09 wizzyrea :D
22:09 wizzyrea O.o
22:09 wizzyrea neat :)
22:09 cdickinphone Francesca: yeah, i have. Stupid room, can't darken it
22:09 Francesca I have a lesson before I come down to catalyst
22:09 Francesca hence the guitar
22:09 wizzyrea sensible.
22:09 Francesca mmm I don't like the hunter lecture theatres very much
22:10 * Francesca needs to email kristina re internships
22:10 Francesca been meaning to do that all week
22:11 cdickinphone I've been meaning to ask how that went :p
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22:11 Francesca Yeah I haven't actually got round to it yet
22:11 Francesca I have manuscript on the brain
22:12 Francesca all i can see is music notation
22:12 cdickinphone Might take a day or two to get a reply, as far as i know Kristina is still overseas
22:12 Francesca Is she really?
22:12 Francesca hmmmm
22:12 Francesca wonder who else I talk to about internships
22:12 Francesca so far I've only been in touch with kristina
22:14 Francesca hey cdickinphone I can wait for you and we can head down to catalyst together if you like
22:14 Francesca or I can just meet you down there
22:14 Francesca whatever you like
22:14 cdickinphone Wait after 2 for me?
22:15 Francesca Maybe
22:15 Francesca where will you be?
22:15 Francesca where are you going to be?
22:16 cdickinphone In a meeting with my supervisors, won't take long
22:16 cdickinphone AM
22:16 cdickinphone So close to our usual meeting place
22:16 Francesca Okey doke
22:16 Francesca that'd work fine, more time for a guitar lesson
22:16 cdickinphone Yay :D
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22:18 cdickinphone Okay, you're on, Francesca
22:18 Francesca what am I on for?
22:18 Francesca meeting you before catalyst?
22:18 cdickinphone Yeag
22:18 cdickinphone Ueah*
22:18 cdickinphone ........
22:18 cdickinphone Yeah**
22:19 Francesca hahahaha
22:19 cdickinphone Shush, you ;-;
22:20 Francesca nope not happening
22:22 cdickinphone Francesca: sometimes i wonder why i let you tease me
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22:22 Francesca css you can't stop me
22:22 Francesca *cas
22:23 cdickinson Francesca: just going to have to start with the retaliation soon
22:23 Francesca bring it on
22:23 Francesca I can always train wahanui to support me
22:25 cdickinson Francesca: as sentient as wahanui is, it is just a digital presence
22:25 Francesca yes but I can teach him stuff
22:25 Francesca love the quit message on your phone
22:26 cdickinson I set it last night, I got the idea from how I actually use it
22:26 Francesca very clever :P
22:27 Francesca yo whats the name of the new github?
22:27 Francesca I need to get an ssh key uploaded from my vm
22:27 Francesca and have forgotten the website name
22:29 * Francesca is watching an opera
22:32 wizzyrea new github?
22:32 wizzyrea gitlab?
22:32 wahanui gitlab is probably really interesting.
22:33 Francesca hahaha
22:33 Francesca gitlab i think
22:34 Francesca I'm installing bugzilla on my vm so is that respiratory on gilt?
22:34 Francesca *gitlab
22:34 Francesca or something else
22:35 Francesca perhaps I'm just confusing myself
22:39 eythian hi
22:40 Francesca hey eythian
22:40 eythian barton|away: there are two of you, and I don't know which is the right one
22:40 eythian barton|tablet: is it this one instead?
22:43 barton|away eythian: anything that says 'barton' will ping me.
22:43 eythian barton|away: well, when your DID resolves, look near the bottom of debian/rules, that xsltproc command does the docbook to man conversion.
22:43 eythian ah, cool
22:44 eythian barton|away: now I see you found out :) oh well.
22:46 barton|away yes, I'm all set -- but it does give me a chance to mention that I've put the finishing touches on bug 12372 :-)... it's a small thing, but I'm proud of it.
22:46 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12372 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, barton, Needs Signoff , Make koha-mysql handle arbitrary mysql arguments
22:46 cdickinson Francesca: you could try to connect it to a local git repository first.. if that's possible
22:47 eythian barton|away: yeah, I've seen that. I approve.
22:47 barton|away well it needs sign-off B-D
22:48 barton|away woh, that came out looking more shouty than happy...
22:48 eythian I don't expect I'll have a chance today, but if no one beats me to it, prod me next week and I'll have a look.
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22:49 cdickinson oh
22:49 barton|away kthanxbai!
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23:58 mtj hiya #koha
23:59 mtj ive got a general BZ workflow question, re: bug 14044
23:59 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14044 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Backslashes ( and possibly other characters ) break patron search

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