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eythian |
@wunder nzwn |
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huginn` |
eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (12:00 PM NZST on July 27, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
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eythian |
I wonder when it was last that warm here |
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rangi |
it has been a while |
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Francesca |
nicer than it was earlier for sure |
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Francesca |
@wunder wlg |
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huginn` |
Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (1:00 PM NZST on July 27, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). |
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Francesca |
wahanui botsnack cookie |
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wahanui |
:) |
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* Francesca |
does a happy dance |
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eythian |
well that reindex ran about 10× faster than normal. |
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eythian |
I wonder what's wrong with it. |
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mario |
@later tell cindy Ping me when you get in. Gracias |
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huginn` |
mario: The operation succeeded. |
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eythian |
'MapperParsingException[mapping [data]]; nested: MapperParsingException[Unknown field [search_analyser]]; ' |
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eythian |
^-- damn you America and your poor excuse for spelling! |
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Francesca |
@wunder wlg |
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huginn` |
Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (5:00 PM NZST on July 27, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
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reiveune |
hello |
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wahanui |
salut, reiveune |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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wahanui |
bonjour, gaetan_B |
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liw |
rangi, blog: why I don't use github or facebook |
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liw |
gah |
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liw |
rangi, I meant to say, I think this might be of interest to you: http://enricozini.org/2014/debian/debops/ |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn` |
cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 19.4°C (10:42 AM CEST on July 27, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
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ashimema |
@wunder stevenage, uk |
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huginn` |
ashimema: The current temperature in Pin Green, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 16.9°C (9:40 AM BST on July 27, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
hi ashimema :) |
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ashimema |
good morning cait |
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ashimema |
back from hols now.. :) |
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cait |
oh nice - where have you been? |
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ashimema |
norfolk broads. |
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ashimema |
was nice.. no wifi or mobile signal so had to stay completely offline for a week.. |
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ashimema |
nice.. but the mountain of emails is even wrose than usual this morning ;) |
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cait |
heh |
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cait |
you probably can delete a lot of them *optimistic* |
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ashimema |
one would hope |
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ashimema |
I tend to find if your only away for a week though, that no-one else picks them up for you as things can wait a week usually.. |
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ashimema |
if you go away for two.. I often find the email queue is actually clearer ;) |
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cait |
heh - so always leave for 2 weeks! |
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ashimema |
hehe.. indeed |
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Francesca |
@wunder wlg |
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huginn` |
Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (10:00 PM NZST on July 27, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
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nlegrand |
hey #koha |
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kivilahtio |
Why aren't we using Moose for Koha::Object? |
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drojf |
hi #koha |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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huginn` |
drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 19.0°C (1:20 PM CEST on July 27, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
kivilahtio: talking about hiding the record - not the items. the code snippet is there on purpose in my understanding |
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kivilahtio |
cait: it is too late to hide it there. It needs to be hidden in the search results, now it just causes misery. |
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cait |
it's the feature as it was written |
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cait |
you can't just change the behaviour |
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cait |
i have a lot of libraries using it BECAUSE it will also hide the record |
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cait |
the other option is to display a nice message, like the feature drojf did for opacsuppression |
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cait |
or make it optional - keeping the behaviour for existing installations |
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kivilahtio |
cait: Ok. |
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kivilahtio |
cait: with my patch I get the text "No physical items for this record" |
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kivilahtio |
cait: what if that text was changed to "No Items currently available" |
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kivilahtio |
cait: this way we can still see the record and tell users that no items are available, instead of no items exists, because the search results listing says items exists. |
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kivilahtio |
this would cause unnecessary complexity to the templates they don't need. |
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kivilahtio |
and it would be better to fix it in the search layer. |
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cait |
kivilahtio: the point is that the bibliographic information shouldn't show either :) |
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cait |
that's the expected behaviou |
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cait |
r |
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kivilahtio |
cait: what if you want to export hte MARC? |
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cait |
some libraries are not really keen on showing any records without item |
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kivilahtio |
ok |
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kivilahtio |
point taken |
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cait |
the expectation is that it's hidden - i am not saying other use cases wouldn't make sense too |
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cait |
just that we can't change the existing behaviur by just deleting the code - we need to make it an option |
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kivilahtio |
cait: I dont want YASP |
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cait |
the surprise if you use that to hide internal stuff and it just reappears on update would not be appreciated i think |
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kivilahtio |
I agree |
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kivilahtio |
I will just let it be like that since we are going to change to ElasticSearch and be done with this Zebra madness |
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kivilahtio |
no point resuscitating it |
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drojf |
i don't think the function will change with elasticsearch, as it is supposed to replace zebra and work how zebra works now… (missed the beginning of your discussion though) |
| 11:55 |
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cait |
drojf: maybe it filters the records out before they go into the display... |
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cait |
that would fix the issue of holes in the listed results |
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cait |
but i can't even tell if robin has implemented opachiddenitems for elasticsearch yet |
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drojf |
i suppose it is not his biggest concern at the moment :) |
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kivilahtio |
prolly not :) |
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nlegrand |
Can't call method "do" on unblessed reference at /home/koha/koha-src/C4/Context.pm line 793. |
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nlegrand |
^ I've read this is because I don't have a KOHA_CONF in my apache2 conf |
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kivilahtio |
nlegrand: you dont have the databse user configured corectly |
| 12:39 |
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nlegrand |
but, I'm pretty sure I've got one... You don't know any other common issues with this error ? |
| 12:39 |
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nlegrand |
kivilahtio: argh, that may be possible, thanks |
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kivilahtio |
nlegrand: we get that when the Perl script tries to connect to DB but MariaDB/MySQL permissions are not set |
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kivilahtio |
nlegrand: there definetely should be some other kind of an error notification |
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kivilahtio |
nlegrand: that is actually quite common error to happen |
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kivilahtio |
nlegrand: and remembering why it happens is occasionally a pain. |
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kivilahtio |
nlegrand: you can easily test it by connecting to your MariaDB server from the command line |
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nlegrand |
kivilahtio: found it... I forgot to create the database... It's fixed now, thanks kivilahtio :) |
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kivilahtio |
nlegrand: thanks you! |
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kivilahtio |
nlegrand: we all love your work |
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nlegrand |
mhm |
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nlegrand |
kivilahtio: are you sure i'm the personn you think I am? :) |
| 12:42 |
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nlegrand |
Cause I've just contributed tiny bits to koha ^^ |
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kivilahtio |
nlegrand: I think so, but if not, then somebody somewhere still loves your work |
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nlegrand |
my nick looks a bit like nengard's maybe ^^ |
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nlegrand |
kivilahtio: ^^ |
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kivilahtio |
nlegrand: that is true |
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liw |
I was told anyone who's contributed even a single bit to Koha is an awesome hero. I think so. (self-promotion aside) |
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cait |
:) |
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kivilahtio |
that is also a good point |
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kivilahtio |
liw: where did you hear that? |
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liw |
kivilahtio, I think from rangi, at the Catalyst offices. My memory may have paraphrased a little. |
| 12:46 |
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* cait |
wishes once again we had a timestamp on the borrowers table |
| 12:46 |
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kivilahtio |
liw: have you been to New Zealand? |
| 12:46 |
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kivilahtio |
cait: we should have timestamps in every table |
| 12:46 |
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kivilahtio |
cait: last_mod_time |
| 12:47 |
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liw |
kivilahtio, I was in NZ for a few months in 2010, and worked for Catalyst for a bit, adding Debian packaging to Koha |
| 12:47 |
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cait |
yep, but borrowers is especially annoying today |
| 12:47 |
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cait |
and the patron import tool shoudl tell me which duplicate cardnumbers it refused to load... not only the last one :) |
| 12:47 |
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cait |
so liw totally IS a koha hero :) |
| 12:47 |
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kivilahtio |
liw: How did you end up there? |
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kivilahtio |
it is a long way from Finland. |
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liw |
kivilahtio, my gf and I wanted to on an adventure, so we went to NZ. (then got married in England, later) |
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kivilahtio |
liw: wow, sounds like a great trip |
| 12:49 |
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kivilahtio |
liw: getting married is worth it |
| 12:49 |
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liw |
kivilahtio, clarification: we lived abroad for five years, getting married happened years after NZ :) |
| 12:49 |
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liw |
anyway, that's not interesting |
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cait |
hah, borrowernumber = date loaded.... somehow |
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kivilahtio |
haah |
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liw |
cait, I'd give most of the credit to eythian (and others?) who continue to maintain the packaging |
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kivilahtio |
liw: I think travelling is always interesting |
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kivilahtio |
take care |
| 12:50 |
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cait |
liw: but you got the stone rolling :) |
| 12:50 |
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liw |
cait, I moved a small pebble and it became an avalanche |
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kivilahtio |
man we're rolling! |
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tcohen |
morning! |
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cait |
morning tcohen |
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drojf |
mveron++ #lots of signoffs |
| 13:19 |
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tcohen |
hey, let me shrink my queue damn it |
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tcohen |
:-D |
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tcohen |
hi drojf |
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pastebot |
"tcohen" at 172.16.248.197 pasted "cait: look" (77 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/17 |
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tcohen |
@seen Joubu |
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huginn` |
tcohen: Joubu was last seen in #koha 1 week, 3 days, 19 hours, 35 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <Joubu> I will be off for the next 2 weeks, see you! |
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drojf |
hi tcohen |
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tcohen |
question: what might prevent 'warn' to print on the screen? |
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tcohen |
I introduced one in C4::Circultaion for debugging |
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tcohen |
and cannot get the output |
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gaetan_B |
bye |
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cait |
tcohen: where did you put the warn? |
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cait |
ah sorry, scrolling was broken |
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cait |
and nothing is int he logs? |
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reiveune |
bye |
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tcohen |
I put it at the beggining of Circultation.pm:AddReturn |
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tcohen |
the warn worked on the staff interface, but it didn't on the shell |
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tcohen |
I was using kohadevbox with Debian7.8 |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn` |
cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 20.6°C (9:49 PM CEST on July 27, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
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pianohacker |
hi cait :) |
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pianohacker |
how are ya? |
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rangi |
morning |
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pianohacker |
hi rangi |
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Dyrcona |
kia ora, rangi. |
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Dyrcona |
doh! wrong key. ;) |
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rangi |
heh |
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cait |
morning |
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eythian |
hi |
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eythian |
cait: I haven't implemented opacsupression yet, hiddenitems will probably work anyway as its external to the search process. |
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cait |
eythian: ok |
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cait |
i was mostly trying to explain that we can't change existing behaviour :) |
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eythian |
ah good, I remember having that discussion with someone recently ;) |
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cait |
:P |
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cait |
going to sleep - bye all :) |
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Francesca |
morning |
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eythian |
wahanui: good morning |
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wahanui |
the only good morning is a dead one |
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eythian |
yeah, that |
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wahanui |
i heard yeah, that was cool - a way to enhance the OPAC without bloating Koha... |
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Francesca |
thats sad wahanui |
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Francesca |
hi eythian |
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cdickinson_ |
I feel dead |
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cdickinson_ |
and apparently, so does my nick |
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Francesca |
hahaha |
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Francesca |
hey cdickinson if you feel dead, am I now talking to ghost_cdickinson? |
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cdickinson |
that would be cdickinson when cdickinson_ is here |
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cdickinson |
which is too often |
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* eythian |
points out that there is a ghost kill command |
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cdickinson |
yep, know about it |
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cdickinson |
but automating it in XChat is something I don't know how to do yet |
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cdickinson |
as for general deadness, Francesca, you're talking to ghost_cdickinson in spirit, all the time |
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Francesca |
hahaha ok |
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cdickinson |
makes me want to ask the pros whether or not the long nights and taking work home ever ends |
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eythian |
we're contractually obliged not to answer that. |
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cdickinson |
silenced by the powers that be |
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Francesca |
cdickinson - no matter how much I get done I always end up bringing stuff home regardless |
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Francesca |
(this includes work at uni) |
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cdickinson |
hehe |
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cdickinson |
alright, I'm off, ciao |
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