Time Nick Message 23:43 cdickinson alright, I'm off, ciao 23:43 cdickinson hehe 23:38 Francesca (this includes work at uni) 23:38 Francesca cdickinson - no matter how much I get done I always end up bringing stuff home regardless 23:37 cdickinson silenced by the powers that be 23:37 eythian we're contractually obliged not to answer that. 23:37 cdickinson makes me want to ask the pros whether or not the long nights and taking work home ever ends 23:34 Francesca hahaha ok 23:32 cdickinson as for general deadness, Francesca, you're talking to ghost_cdickinson in spirit, all the time 23:32 cdickinson but automating it in XChat is something I don't know how to do yet 23:32 cdickinson yep, know about it 23:31 * eythian points out that there is a ghost kill command 23:31 cdickinson which is too often 23:31 cdickinson that would be cdickinson when cdickinson_ is here 23:30 Francesca hey cdickinson if you feel dead, am I now talking to ghost_cdickinson? 23:28 Francesca hahaha 23:08 cdickinson_ and apparently, so does my nick 23:08 cdickinson_ I feel dead 23:00 Francesca hi eythian 22:59 Francesca thats sad wahanui 22:57 wahanui i heard yeah, that was cool - a way to enhance the OPAC without bloating Koha... 22:57 eythian yeah, that 22:57 wahanui the only good morning is a dead one 22:57 eythian wahanui: good morning 22:55 Francesca morning 22:45 cait going to sleep - bye all :) 22:44 cait :P 22:44 eythian ah good, I remember having that discussion with someone recently ;) 22:41 cait i was mostly trying to explain that we can't change existing behaviour :) 22:40 cait eythian: ok 22:40 eythian cait: I haven't implemented opacsupression yet, hiddenitems will probably work anyway as its external to the search process. 22:32 eythian hi 20:14 cait morning 20:12 rangi heh 20:12 Dyrcona doh! wrong key. ;) 20:12 Dyrcona kia ora, rangi. 20:12 pianohacker hi rangi 20:11 rangi morning 20:10 pianohacker how are ya? 20:10 pianohacker hi cait :) 19:50 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 20.6°C (9:49 PM CEST on July 27, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). 19:50 cait @wunder Konstanz 16:59 tcohen I was using kohadevbox with Debian7.8 16:59 tcohen the warn worked on the staff interface, but it didn't on the shell 16:58 tcohen I put it at the beggining of Circultation.pm:AddReturn 16:12 reiveune bye 16:02 cait and nothing is int he logs? 16:02 cait ah sorry, scrolling was broken 16:02 cait tcohen: where did you put the warn? 15:59 gaetan_B bye 13:43 tcohen and cannot get the output 13:42 tcohen I introduced one in C4::Circultaion for debugging 13:42 tcohen question: what might prevent 'warn' to print on the screen? 13:38 drojf hi tcohen 13:35 huginn` tcohen: Joubu was last seen in #koha 1 week, 3 days, 19 hours, 35 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <Joubu> I will be off for the next 2 weeks, see you! 13:35 tcohen @seen Joubu 13:30 pastebot "tcohen" at 172.16.248.197 pasted "cait: look" (77 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/17 13:19 tcohen hi drojf 13:19 tcohen :-D 13:19 tcohen hey, let me shrink my queue damn it 13:18 drojf mveron++ #lots of signoffs 13:14 cait morning tcohen 13:14 tcohen morning! 12:56 kivilahtio man we're rolling! 12:50 liw cait, I moved a small pebble and it became an avalanche 12:50 cait liw: but you got the stone rolling :) 12:50 kivilahtio take care 12:50 kivilahtio liw: I think travelling is always interesting 12:50 liw cait, I'd give most of the credit to eythian (and others?) who continue to maintain the packaging 12:50 kivilahtio haah 12:49 cait hah, borrowernumber = date loaded.... somehow 12:49 liw anyway, that's not interesting 12:49 liw kivilahtio, clarification: we lived abroad for five years, getting married happened years after NZ :) 12:49 kivilahtio liw: getting married is worth it 12:49 kivilahtio liw: wow, sounds like a great trip 12:48 liw kivilahtio, my gf and I wanted to on an adventure, so we went to NZ. (then got married in England, later) 12:48 kivilahtio it is a long way from Finland. 12:47 kivilahtio liw: How did you end up there? 12:47 cait so liw totally IS a koha hero :) 12:47 cait and the patron import tool shoudl tell me which duplicate cardnumbers it refused to load... not only the last one :) 12:47 cait yep, but borrowers is especially annoying today 12:47 liw kivilahtio, I was in NZ for a few months in 2010, and worked for Catalyst for a bit, adding Debian packaging to Koha 12:46 kivilahtio cait: last_mod_time 12:46 kivilahtio cait: we should have timestamps in every table 12:46 kivilahtio liw: have you been to New Zealand? 12:46 * cait wishes once again we had a timestamp on the borrowers table 12:44 liw kivilahtio, I think from rangi, at the Catalyst offices. My memory may have paraphrased a little. 12:44 kivilahtio liw: where did you hear that? 12:43 kivilahtio that is also a good point 12:43 cait :) 12:43 liw I was told anyone who's contributed even a single bit to Koha is an awesome hero. I think so. (self-promotion aside) 12:43 kivilahtio nlegrand: that is true 12:43 nlegrand kivilahtio: ^^ 12:43 nlegrand my nick looks a bit like nengard's maybe ^^ 12:42 kivilahtio nlegrand: I think so, but if not, then somebody somewhere still loves your work 12:42 nlegrand Cause I've just contributed tiny bits to koha ^^ 12:42 nlegrand kivilahtio: are you sure i'm the personn you think I am? :) 12:41 nlegrand mhm 12:41 kivilahtio nlegrand: we all love your work 12:41 kivilahtio nlegrand: thanks you! 12:41 nlegrand kivilahtio: found it... I forgot to create the database... It's fixed now, thanks kivilahtio :) 12:40 kivilahtio nlegrand: you can easily test it by connecting to your MariaDB server from the command line 12:40 kivilahtio nlegrand: and remembering why it happens is occasionally a pain. 12:39 kivilahtio nlegrand: that is actually quite common error to happen 12:39 kivilahtio nlegrand: there definetely should be some other kind of an error notification 12:39 kivilahtio nlegrand: we get that when the Perl script tries to connect to DB but MariaDB/MySQL permissions are not set 12:39 nlegrand kivilahtio: argh, that may be possible, thanks 12:39 nlegrand but, I'm pretty sure I've got one... You don't know any other common issues with this error ? 12:38 kivilahtio nlegrand: you dont have the databse user configured corectly 12:38 nlegrand ^ I've read this is because I don't have a KOHA_CONF in my apache2 conf 12:38 nlegrand Can't call method "do" on unblessed reference at /home/koha/koha-src/C4/Context.pm line 793. 12:03 kivilahtio prolly not :) 11:59 drojf i suppose it is not his biggest concern at the moment :) 11:55 cait but i can't even tell if robin has implemented opachiddenitems for elasticsearch yet 11:55 cait that would fix the issue of holes in the listed results 11:55 cait drojf: maybe it filters the records out before they go into the display... 11:52 drojf i don't think the function will change with elasticsearch, as it is supposed to replace zebra and work how zebra works now… (missed the beginning of your discussion though) 11:50 kivilahtio no point resuscitating it 11:50 kivilahtio I will just let it be like that since we are going to change to ElasticSearch and be done with this Zebra madness 11:49 kivilahtio I agree 11:49 cait the surprise if you use that to hide internal stuff and it just reappears on update would not be appreciated i think 11:49 kivilahtio cait: I dont want YASP 11:49 cait just that we can't change the existing behaviur by just deleting the code - we need to make it an option 11:49 cait the expectation is that it's hidden - i am not saying other use cases wouldn't make sense too 11:49 kivilahtio point taken 11:48 kivilahtio ok 11:48 cait some libraries are not really keen on showing any records without item 11:48 kivilahtio cait: what if you want to export hte MARC? 11:48 cait r 11:48 cait that's the expected behaviou 11:48 cait kivilahtio: the point is that the bibliographic information shouldn't show either :) 11:47 kivilahtio and it would be better to fix it in the search layer. 11:47 kivilahtio this would cause unnecessary complexity to the templates they don't need. 11:47 kivilahtio cait: this way we can still see the record and tell users that no items are available, instead of no items exists, because the search results listing says items exists. 11:46 kivilahtio cait: what if that text was changed to "No Items currently available" 11:46 kivilahtio cait: with my patch I get the text "No physical items for this record" 11:45 kivilahtio cait: Ok. 11:42 cait or make it optional - keeping the behaviour for existing installations 11:42 cait the other option is to display a nice message, like the feature drojf did for opacsuppression 11:41 cait i have a lot of libraries using it BECAUSE it will also hide the record 11:41 cait you can't just change the behaviour 11:41 cait it's the feature as it was written 11:41 kivilahtio cait: it is too late to hide it there. It needs to be hidden in the search results, now it just causes misery. 11:40 cait kivilahtio: talking about hiding the record - not the items. the code snippet is there on purpose in my understanding 11:38 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 19.0°C (1:20 PM CEST on July 27, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). 11:38 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 11:03 drojf hi #koha 10:56 kivilahtio Why aren't we using Moose for Koha::Object? 10:40 nlegrand hey #koha 10:22 huginn` Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (10:00 PM NZST on July 27, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). 10:22 Francesca @wunder wlg 08:57 ashimema hehe.. indeed 08:54 cait heh - so always leave for 2 weeks! 08:49 ashimema if you go away for two.. I often find the email queue is actually clearer ;) 08:48 ashimema I tend to find if your only away for a week though, that no-one else picks them up for you as things can wait a week usually.. 08:48 ashimema one would hope 08:47 cait you probably can delete a lot of them *optimistic* 08:47 cait heh 08:46 ashimema nice.. but the mountain of emails is even wrose than usual this morning ;) 08:46 ashimema was nice.. no wifi or mobile signal so had to stay completely offline for a week.. 08:46 ashimema norfolk broads. 08:44 cait oh nice - where have you been? 08:44 ashimema back from hols now.. :) 08:44 ashimema good morning cait 08:44 cait hi ashimema :) 08:44 huginn` ashimema: The current temperature in Pin Green, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 16.9°C (9:40 AM BST on July 27, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady). 08:44 ashimema @wunder stevenage, uk 08:42 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 19.4°C (10:42 AM CEST on July 27, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 08:42 cait @wunder Konstanz 07:36 liw rangi, I meant to say, I think this might be of interest to you: http://enricozini.org/2014/debian/debops/ 07:36 liw gah 07:36 liw rangi, blog: why I don't use github or facebook 07:34 wahanui bonjour, gaetan_B 07:34 gaetan_B hello 07:01 alex_a bonjour 07:00 marcelr hi #koha 06:52 wahanui salut, reiveune 06:52 reiveune hello 05:36 huginn` Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (5:00 PM NZST on July 27, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). 05:36 Francesca @wunder wlg 05:09 eythian ^-- damn you America and your poor excuse for spelling! 05:09 eythian 'MapperParsingException[mapping [data]]; nested: MapperParsingException[Unknown field [search_analyser]]; ' 04:55 huginn` mario: The operation succeeded. 04:55 mario @later tell cindy Ping me when you get in. Gracias 04:52 eythian I wonder what's wrong with it. 04:52 eythian well that reindex ran about 10× faster than normal. 03:35 * Francesca does a happy dance 01:08 wahanui :) 01:08 Francesca wahanui botsnack cookie 01:08 huginn` Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (1:00 PM NZST on July 27, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). 01:08 Francesca @wunder wlg 00:31 Francesca nicer than it was earlier for sure 00:30 rangi it has been a while 00:28 eythian I wonder when it was last that warm here 00:28 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (12:00 PM NZST on July 27, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). 00:28 eythian @wunder nzwn