IRC log for #koha, 2015-07-09

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00:09 eythian @wunder nzwn
00:09 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 7.0°C (12:00 PM NZST on July 09, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
00:10 eythian feels like 1° alright
00:10 cait1 @wunder Konstanz
00:10 huginn` cait1: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 18.3°C (2:10 AM CEST on July 09, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
00:10 cait1 it cooled down quite a bit last night
00:10 cait1 but it's probably only a short break we get
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00:39 wizzyrea_ do you still have to manually turn on opacsuppression?
00:39 wizzyrea_ in the indexes?
00:39 cait1 nope
00:39 cait1 not if you use the standard field for it
00:39 wizzyrea_ niiiiice
00:39 cait1 i think the problem was unimarc not having a default mapping at some point
00:40 wizzyrea_ that simplifies this thing I'm doing considerably :)
00:40 cait1 just make sure you have at least one hidden record when you switch the pref
00:40 cait1 else opac search won't return results
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00:41 cait1 hi BobB
00:42 wizzyrea_ right
00:50 wizzyrea_ wouldn't the answer to that guy's SIP problem be to make a user in LDAP that matches the SIP user?
00:51 wizzyrea_ it wouldn't even have to have any rights to anything, so long as it answered "Yep, that's a user"
00:52 cait1 i am actually surprised that there is a problem in teh first place
00:52 cait1 i thought sip was still checking the database directly - going around ldap
00:53 cait1 hm, maybe different for the sip user then for the patrons when they identify? not sure which he is talking about
00:53 wizzyrea_ yeah not sure
00:54 cait1 still something strange there... because if it's not in ldap it should fall back to local?
00:54 cait1 we only have one library with ldap and sip and I can't remember any problems there or having the sip user in their ldap hm.
00:56 mtompset the whole authentication and authentication fallback is hacky/ugly/bad.
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01:00 eythian yep. I want to make it all a series of plugins, when I get all the time in the world
01:01 mtompset eythian: But how would you order the authentication order if they are plugins?
01:01 eythian by putting them in order in your configuration
01:02 mtompset koha-conf?
01:02 mtompset I was thinking a pretty drag and drop reorder method. :)
01:03 mtompset But that requires all the time in the world. ;)
01:04 mtompset Have a good day, #koha eythian cait1 wizzyrea wizzyrea_
01:04 cait1 eythian: how is it going with the elastic search? :)
01:05 eythian cait1: I think I have all the search in place.
01:05 eythian I need to go back and test all the things to see if I created new bugs in the things I haven't looked at for a while though.
01:06 cait1 we discussed a gbsd at 3rd september today
01:06 cait1 and how ew could get more people involved
01:06 cait1 we could send them to the sandbox for testing maybe?
01:06 cait1 a lot of people are interested to see, might also test some
01:06 eythian cool
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01:34 cait wizzyrea: for rda - 10306
01:34 cait but 10306
01:34 cait bug 10306
01:34 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10306 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Publication information can only be mapped to either 260 or 264 (RDA)
01:34 cait i think that's one of the more complicated things we need to look into
01:42 wizzyrea_ hm yes, it's problematic.
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02:19 cait i'd like to get bug  9254 out of discussion... anyone want to comment?
02:19 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9254 enhancement, P2, ---, vfernandes, In Discussion , New option to block patrons from changing messaging preferences in OPAC
02:23 pianohacker cait: my immediate thought (not sure if comment worthy) is, if you're worried about patrons changing their settings, why not have them change them in person or by emailing staff?
02:23 cait yeah exactly
02:23 cait i don't like the idea of moderating that
02:23 cait that like offering a switch
02:23 cait youdon't want them to switch...
02:24 cait i am not sure if i am still making sense, it#s very late here
02:24 pianohacker I'd say there's no reason not to _show_ a read-only version, though
02:24 pianohacker yeah, go to bed cait ;)
02:24 cait yep that was the suggestion
02:24 cait show/allow editing/don't show
02:24 cait for the tab
02:25 cait we have hidden it for a lot of libraires with jquery... would be nice to have a pref instead
02:25 pianohacker right, but why hide them completely?
02:26 pianohacker There's no harm in telling them what their settings are, no?
02:26 eythian pianohacker: you should know better than that :)
02:26 eythian libraries often want things turned off for mysterious reasons.
02:26 wizzyrea_ does anyone remember wat the bug number was for magnus' work on updating/synchronizing koha-conf files?
02:26 pianohacker eythian: yeah, I know...
02:27 pianohacker it's late enough that I'm pretending things make sense
02:27 pianohacker cait: my vote for the sake of consistency is that the syspref only switches between editable/read-only and if a library reeeeaaaallly wants read-only they can do some CSS
02:27 wizzyrea_ personally? I think it's bs that library users can't opt out of things themselves.
02:28 pianohacker wizzyrea_: agreed, but...
02:28 cait true
02:28 cait pianohacker: you are not making sense :)
02:28 eythian pianohacker: it's true, that didn't make sense :)
02:28 pianohacker cait, sorry
02:28 cait and css and jquery are not water proof
02:28 eythian wizzyrea_: bug 12584
02:28 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12584 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , koha-conf.xml for package installations get out of sync
02:28 wizzyrea_ YES
02:28 wizzyrea_ thank you
02:28 wizzyrea_ eythian++
02:29 pianohacker *and if a library really wants them _hidden_ they can do some CSS
02:29 pianohacker that make more sense?
02:29 cait yep
02:29 cait but i think it would still require a new patch
02:29 cait because this now is  kill tab/not kill tab
02:29 cait it's not hard to implement read only
02:29 cait but we need to agree on something
02:30 cait so that's why the 3 options came in - the read-only was the new one :)
02:30 pianohacker cait: I'll post a comment
02:33 cait thx
02:47 cait good night all
03:54 BobB irma, jamesb interesting mention in #koha this morning:
03:54 BobB [15-07-09 11:18] <-- cait1 ( has quit (Ping timeout: 480 seconds)
03:54 BobB [15-07-09 11:34] <cait> wizzyrea: for rda - 10306
03:54 BobB [15-07-09 11:34] <cait> but 10306
03:54 BobB [15-07-09 11:34] <cait> bug 10306
03:54 BobB [15-07-09 11:34] <huginn`> Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10306 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Publication information can only be mapped to either 260 or 264 (RDA)
03:54 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10306 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Publication information can only be mapped to either 260 or 264 (RDA)
03:54 BobB [15-07-09 11:34] <cait> i think that's one of the more complicated things we need to look into
03:54 huginn` Bug 10306: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Publication information can only be mapped to either 260 or 264 (RDA)
03:54 BobB [15-07-09 11:42] <wizzyrea_> hm yes, it's problematic.
03:55 BobB LOL wrong channel, sorry guys
03:55 eythian at least it was pretty innocent :)
03:55 eythian @wunder nzwn
03:55 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 7.0°C (3:30 PM NZST on July 09, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
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03:55 Francesca soon cold
03:56 Francesca grrr auto correct
03:56 Francesca anyone around?
03:56 BobB eythian  +1
03:57 eythian Francesca: ain't nobody here but us chickens
03:57 Francesca lol
03:57 Francesca why chickens?
03:57 * mtj waves to Francesca and eythian
03:57 eythian Francesca: because that's the name of the song
03:57 * Francesca waves back
03:58 Francesca oh I've never heard the song
03:58 eythian <-- some people know nothing about music eh ;)
03:58 Francesca I'm a music student
03:59 eythian and yet...
03:59 Francesca just a classical one
03:59 Francesca nice song
03:59 Francesca I just don't know a lot about jazz
04:00 eythian it was top of the R&B chart, and on the pop chart in 1946.
04:01 Francesca I wasn't alive in 1946
04:01 * eythian switches from that to Mesh for a bit of a change.
04:02 eythian Francesca: no excuse
04:02 * Francesca turns on the four seasons
04:02 ibeardslee .. spring please /me has had enough of winter
04:03 pianohacker @later tell Joubu I'm working on applying the columns configuration tool to, and there's a few difficulties I'd like to talk through with you
04:03 huginn` pianohacker: The operation succeeded.
04:03 Francesca spring is the one I always start with
04:03 pianohacker also, hi Francesca
04:03 Francesca though I can play the 2nd movement of winter on my recorder
04:03 Francesca hey pianohacker
04:03 wahanui I HATE XML
04:03 Francesca hahahaha do you really pianohacker?
04:03 pianohacker I need to change that, I have things I hate more these days...
04:03 Francesca lol
04:04 Francesca how do you change that
04:04 Francesca someone set mine up for me
04:04 pianohacker wahanui: forget pianohacker
04:04 wahanui pianohacker: I forgot pianohacker
04:04 eythian no wahanui, pianohacker is <reply>I HATE ALMOST EVERYTHING
04:04 pianohacker hahahaha ow
04:05 pianohacker thanks eythian
04:05 eythian :D
04:05 Francesca piano hacker doesn't hate pianos
04:05 pianohacker exactly
04:05 Francesca or hacking pianos
04:05 eythian then why is he chopping them up like that?
04:05 Francesca as proven by the username
04:05 eythian where do you think he got his username?
04:05 Francesca I meant hacking in digital sense
04:05 pianohacker yeah, it's metaphorical!
04:06 Francesca not axe wielding kill the inanimate object sense
04:06 eythian "A quick job that produces what is needed, but not well?"
04:06 * eythian chooses definitions to be the most entertaining at the time
04:06 pianohacker eythian: so much faith...
04:06 Francesca piano hacker you don't wield axes against inanimate objects do you?
04:06 Francesca hahahaha
04:07 pianohacker Francesca: uhhhhhhh of course not
04:07 Francesca I'd be worried if you did
04:07 pianohacker only firewood...
04:07 pianohacker on that note, time to head out for the day
04:07 eythian I'd be more concerned about the animate objects
04:08 pianohacker eythian: what you don't see coming won't hurt you :D
04:08 eythian that's what they saying, I'm sceptical.
04:08 eythian -ing
04:09 * Francesca is very cold
04:09 eythian @wunder nzwn
04:09 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (4:00 PM NZST on July 09, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
04:09 eythian so, feels like 3° out there
04:10 Francesca very very cold then
04:10 Francesca and it didn't snow in brooklyn
04:10 ibeardslee curse you eythian curse you and your earworms
04:10 Francesca in my opinion it is sad that its so cold but theres no fun coming from it like there would be if it snowed
04:10 eythian it almost looked like it was snowing in town earlier, but didn't quite manage
04:10 eythian ibeardslee: you're welcome
04:11 Francesca it was snowing in karori
04:11 * eythian used to work in snow. Over it, totally.
04:11 * Francesca has only seen snow once or twice
04:11 * Francesca is so not over snow
04:12 eythian reminds me, I should see what it's like down south, I suspect my parent's are trapped in the Sounds as the weather turned just after they went there.
04:12 eythian -'
04:12 ibeardslee I once had a white christmas (Groton, Connecticut, USA).  Not as exciting after scraping snow/ice off the driveway
04:13 Francesca I had a white christmas in 2012
04:13 Francesca we stayed in canada
04:13 Francesca that was fun
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04:38 AmitG hi all
04:40 Francesca sup
04:53 cdickinson it came so close to snowing in the Hutt last night, oh man
04:53 cdickinson it was agonising
04:54 cdickinson constant sleet for the entire night
04:54 cdickinson and hail too
04:54 cdickinson but no, that horrible state of stupid cold but no snow :P
04:55 cdickinson @wunder lower hutt
04:55 huginn` cdickinson: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 4.4°C (4:50 PM NZST on July 09, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
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06:42 reiveune hello
06:42 wahanui hi, reiveune
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06:56 Joubu Good morning #koha
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07:03 alex_a bonjour
07:03 wahanui privet, alex_a
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07:12 AmitG hi alex_a
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07:17 gaetan_B hello
07:23 * magnuse waves
07:27 magnuse @wunder boo
07:27 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 11.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on July 09, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady).
07:28 magnuse @wunder marseille
07:28 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille / Marignane, France is 23.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on July 09, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
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07:58 mtj[…]objectid=11478112
08:00 mtj ..duet at the end, is nice
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08:31 drojf morning #koha
08:31 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
08:31 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 16.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on July 09, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
08:46 * cait waves
08:47 drojf hi cait
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08:49 drojf great, if mveron and Joubu come to berlin, it's already a small hackfest :)
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08:54 cait i'd like to join them
08:55 cait and i like the idea
08:55 cait maybe we can take turns?
08:55 magnuse huh, hackfest?
08:55 wahanui well, hackfest is[…]st-marseille-2014
08:56 * magnuse goes to read the list
09:05 magnuse ooh, very cool!
09:05 drojf magnuse: joining? :)
09:07 magnuse i sure hope so!
09:07 drojf \o/
09:07 magnuse havn't made up my mind if july is optimal...
09:07 magnuse it might be
09:07 cait why wait until next year? :P
09:08 magnuse that would be in my summer holiday, but that would mean wife and kid might be able to tag along
09:08 magnuse cait: you think we should go to germany for summer holiday this year?
09:09 drojf magnuse: me neither. we would have to check how holidays work and things. also what room options i will actually have
09:09 cait i could imagine worse places :)
09:13 * magnuse would want to rent an appartment
09:17 cait :)
09:18 * indradg waves
09:19 drojf magnuse: we have huge gentrification problems with people renting out flats as holiday appartments, taking them away from the regular market. that said, there should be something available :P
09:19 drojf i think some of the youth hostels have appartment options too
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09:23 drojf hi indradg
09:24 indradg hi drojf! all the best for the Berlin Hackfest next year.
09:24 drojf indradg: thanks. you should join! :)
09:24 indradg i will... if I can manage to put together the airfare :)
09:25 drojf yay!
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09:58 marcelr hi #koha
09:58 marcelr Joubu: bug 14494
09:58 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14494 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Terribly slow checkout caused by DateTime->new in far future
09:58 marcelr I also had a patch coming ;)
10:16 cait hm can we get a sign-off for bug 14264? :) (just mentioning in hopes someone gets interested)
10:16 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14264 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Export of CSV from late orders form does only work in English
10:16 marcelr Joubu around
10:18 Joubu marcelr: ?
10:19 marcelr hi Joubu : if you do not touch bug 14494, i will do some work on it still
10:19 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14494 normal, P5 - low, ---,, Needs Signoff , Terribly slow checkout caused by DateTime->new in far future
10:19 marcelr prevent double work..
10:21 Joubu I don't. What do you want to do?
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10:22 Joubu marcelr: all tests pass here
10:23 cait @wunder Konstanz
10:23 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 20.0°C (12:00 PM CEST on July 09, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa (Rising).
10:23 marcelr ok, i will have a closer look
10:25 Joubu marcelr: what do you want to change?
10:26 marcelr i am adding part of my code and removing the 9999 with floating tz
10:26 marcelr will do via a followup
10:30 AmitG hi Joubu
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11:04 cait Joubu++ # qa!
11:06 Joubu marcelr: for the DBIC error, see the deps
11:11 marcelr oops
11:11 marcelr a dependency..
11:11 wahanui a dependency is actually for libgraphics-magick-perl.
11:13 cait also marcelr++ :)
11:15 Joubu marcelr: you will still get the warning msgs, but the tests will pass.
11:16 marcelr Joubu: yes I see it now, just having my doubts if addings evals it the right solution?
11:17 marcelr Joubu: could we add your tests with TestBuilder for bug 14494 in a new file?
11:17 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14494 normal, P5 - low, ---,, Needs Signoff , Terribly slow checkout caused by DateTime->new in far future
11:17 Joubu marcelr: if you like, but we will need tests
11:18 marcelr I would like that, yes: Shall I move them?
11:18 Joubu marcelr: it's not the best solution, but we don't have a quick&easy one atm
11:18 Joubu yes
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11:39 xarragon Anyone familiar with DBI that can explain to me why this happens?
11:39 xarragon I am using the 'IN' SQL qualifier to list a bunch of borrowernumbers, but I only get one result back.
11:40 xarragon If I remove the 'IN' clause I get all expected rows.
11:41 xarragon If I specify '(1,2)', am I not supposed to get 1 and 2 back?
11:42 xarragon My guess is that the binding is the problem..
11:43 xarragon yes, I do get the expected results with the numbers hardcoded in the prepared query
11:43 cait Joubu: thx for looking at that maze of a patch - i will try to fix it, but probably can't before next week
11:43 xarragon Must be the fact that  am passing them as a string then. Being escaped I guess
11:43 cait if you wanted todo a follow up i'd sign it off
11:45 Joubu xarragon: you need: IN (?,?)
11:45 cait hm i think for in and placeholders there is also a snippet in the coding buidelines
11:45 cait on how you can do it
11:45 xarragon Joubu: Yes, but how do I do that for N number of numbers? Do I have to manually build a string with N number of placeholders?
11:45 xarragon cait: Ah, ok, thanks I will look at it
11:45 Joubu xarragon: yes
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11:46 Joubu xarragon: ('?' x scalar(@params))
11:46 xarragon cait: Excellent, many thanks:[…]L10:_Placeholders
11:46 xarragon Joubu: And big thanks to you too.
11:46 cait xarragon: i looked it up myself recently :)
11:47 cait ... Joubu is a programmer - he knows how to do it... and i am a librarian - i know where to look it up :P
11:48 Joubu it's always better to double check, I have forgotten the commas in my example...
11:54 cait :)
11:58 cait hm bug 10937 - any preferences from you all on the authorised category name?
11:58 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10937 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maxime.beaulieu, Passed QA , Option to hide and group itemtypes from advanced search
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11:59 cait It's a category to group itemtypes
12:00 cait indradg++ # assigning bugs :)
12:00 cait "ITYPECAT or ITEMTYPECAT? Or a bit different: ITYPEGROUP" - was what i came up with late at night yesterday
12:00 marcelr Joubu: could you add a signoff on the second patch of bug 14494; that would be needed to get it to Signed off
12:00 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14494 normal, P5 - low, ---,, Needs Signoff , Terribly slow checkout caused by DateTime->new in far future
12:06 Joubu cait: I'd say itypecat
12:06 cait thx joubu
12:08 cait why cat over group?
12:09 Joubu marcelr: I don't understand the changes you have done in the test file
12:10 Joubu you make the tests dependent on the branchcodes MPL and CPL
12:10 Joubu which is why testbuilder is useful :)
12:10 Joubu no need to have them in the DB if you don't specify them
12:10 Joubu same for the category code
12:11 Joubu marcelr: and tests are now missing for CalcDateDue
12:13 marcelr Joubu: i needed that; you use $borrower for patronflags
12:13 marcelr this is not my wish..
12:14 marcelr if you resolve patronflags, we can remove the other stuff
12:14 marcelr :)
12:14 marcelr tests for CalcDateDue is true
12:15 marcelr will add a few tomorrow or so
12:15 Joubu marcelr: we mean the tests don't pass if you remove the default values passed to testbuilder?
12:15 marcelr you use $borrower
12:15 marcelr see patronflags
12:16 Joubu I didn't pass them in my first patch, and the tests pass
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12:16 marcelr please read it: $borrower
12:16 marcelr comes from the code before your additions
12:16 Joubu marcelr: ok sorry
12:16 Joubu it was a mistake
12:16 marcelr np
12:16 Joubu it should be $patron, the one generated by the builder
12:17 marcelr resubmit i will so again
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12:17 Joubu I am starving, back after lunch :)
12:24 marcelr Joubu: adjusted your test
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12:40 drojf BobB++
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12:43 magnuse yeah BobB++
12:43 irma ^..^
12:44 * BobB waves to Europe
12:47 * druthb waves to BobB and irma, then turns round and waves to Europe
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12:50 AmitG hi  druthb, BobB
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12:55 * magnuse waves southwards
12:57 druthb Hi, AmitG. :)
12:58 nengard monring all
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13:01 BobB its late here, good night droif, magnuse, druthb, AmitG, nengard, #koha
13:05 magnuse kia ora nengard!
13:05 nengard magnuse!!!!!!
13:05 wahanui it has been said that magnuse is a Norwegian giant.
13:05 druthb kia ora, magnuse. :)
13:05 nengard druthb!!!!!
13:05 wahanui somebody said druthb was an amazing person
13:05 nengard hehe
13:05 druthb lies!
13:06 Joubu marcelr: thanks!
13:06 nengard :( stop it!!
13:06 druthb :P
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14:24 mveron Hi #koha
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14:33 mveron @wunder Allschwil
14:33 huginn` mveron: The current temperature in Grenchen, Switzerland is 23.0°C (4:20 PM CEST on July 09, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
14:41 drojf hi mveron :)
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14:42 mveron hi drojf :-)
14:42 mveron @wunder Berlin
14:42 huginn` mveron: Error: No such location could be found.
14:42 mveron Oh, no hackfest then, if Berlin does not exist :-)
14:43 drojf lol
14:44 drojf yeah i don't know why it does not know berlin. it works like
14:44 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
14:44 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 17.0°C (4:20 PM CEST on July 09, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
14:44 drojf i assume it finds too many locations and the message is just bad ;)
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15:09 mveron @wunder basel
15:09 huginn` mveron: The current temperature in Bale-Mulhouse, Switzerland is 23.0°C (5:00 PM CEST on July 09, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Rising).
15:11 reiveune bye
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15:11 pianohacker Joubu: around?
15:13 Joubu pianohacker: yep
15:20 pianohacker Joubu: so, the big difficulty I'm having with making respect the columns code is that the order is not assured. I'm thinking of hacking together something by adding attributes to the <th>s and matching against that, but are there any easier solutions you can think of before I dive in?
15:28 Joubu pianohacker: it will be quite difficult to add ColVis to this table I think. It cannot work if the column's order changes.
15:30 Joubu But... can we have an exhaustive list of the fields which can be displayed on this table?
15:32 pianohacker Joubu: exhaustive enough, I think
15:33 pianohacker Joubu: and doh! regarding bug 14464, that was 100% debugging code I forgot to take out (prints out a traceback on die())
15:33 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14464 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , Add ability to cancel waiting holds from checkin screen
15:34 Joubu pianohacker: If we have an exhaustive list, we could manage all of them with the column configuration tool and display/hide
15:34 Joubu pianohacker: I didn't look at the code, but I think it's quite dirty in this area....
15:34 Joubu pianohacker: yes that's what I thought :)
15:35 pianohacker Joubu: ah, so not necessarily with the KohaTable function but using the columns code
15:35 pianohacker Joubu: and I can submit a followup, but it's just removing those two lines
15:35 Joubu pianohacker: Are you aware of admin/ ?
15:36 Joubu pianohacker: ok just let a note on the bug report, I will remove them on qaing it
15:42 mveron Bye #koha
15:42 pianohacker Joubu: yup, and how it saves to the DB and you can retrieve the settings with the ColumnSettings TT plugin
15:43 Joubu pianohacker: ok cool, it would be great if you manage to use the same way, to be consistent :)
15:44 pianohacker Joubu: I'll try, though I think I'll need to extend the JS in a bit. Thanks
15:44 Joubu let me know if you have a WIP and you are stuck at some point
15:44 pianohacker probably will do, datatables is very confusing
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16:05 gaetan_B bye
16:24 Joubu khall: Are you around?
16:24 Joubu khall: ok got it :)
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16:36 Joubu khall: I finally let a note on bug 13517
16:36 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13517 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Show waiting date on reserve/
16:38 khall Joubu: it certainly must be unrelated to that patch series at least
16:39 khall I'd say submit a separate bug/patch for that. I imagine you want to add a check to the subroutine that sets holds to waiting right?
16:41 Joubu khall: no, a test on $res->item in
16:41 Joubu khall: it's unrelated to the patch series, but without the patch the app does not explodes :)
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16:42 khall ah, I totally understand now
16:42 khall I'd say add a test and a carp
16:42 Joubu in there are several places where you check for $res->item before accessing to the attributes of the item
16:42 Joubu for instance 537         $reserve{'ccode'}           = $res->item() ? $res->item()->ccode() : undef;
16:43 khall right, because unless a hold is found it's not guraranteed to have an item
16:43 Joubu yep
16:47 khall I say go ahead and add a followup!
16:48 Joubu khall: no, it's pqa :) I will add a note
16:49 khall cool. thanks!
16:49 Joubu If there is a bug somewhere else, I think it's better to know it
17:01 Joubu Bye #koha
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17:39 indradg @wunder Kolkata
17:39 huginn` indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 27.0°C (10:50 PM IST on July 09, 2015). Conditions: Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 27.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady).
17:54 magnuse @wunder boo
17:54 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 11.0°C (7:20 PM CEST on July 09, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady).
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19:28 pianohacker has anyone else seen repeated 999 (biblio{,item}number) fields? The DB in question has a complicated history, but we're a bit worried about a possible data corruption issue
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20:42 cait hi #koha
20:42 drojf hi cait :)
20:47 * wnickc waves
20:50 pianohacker hi errybody
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21:18 indradg any debian 8 users here?
21:25 cait sorry notme
21:37 pianohacker indradg: I'm on 9
21:38 pianohacker used 8 for a while
21:38 pianohacker not in production, but for all my development
21:38 indradg ok! any gotchas to keep in mind... while moving from 7?
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21:39 pianohacker indradg: honestly, the biggest one I've run into (besides possibly perl dependencies) is the apache 2.2 -> 2.4 transition
21:39 pianohacker slight config file format differences
21:40 indradg pianohacker: thanks! the 2.2 -> 2.4 business I have already tackled with Ubuntu 12.04 -> 14.04... should be same
21:40 pianohacker cool.
21:40 indradg :)
21:46 indradg rangi++ #14290
21:49 pianohacker bug 14290
21:49 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14290 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Add a table foot to circulation matrix
21:49 pianohacker ah nice
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22:38 eythian hi
22:38 wahanui privet, eythian
22:40 eythian magnuse: the English word "gun" comes from Norway.
22:52 drojf hi eythian. i am still missing a "yay i'd come to berlin for a hackfest" or two from nz ;)
22:52 eythian drojf: heh, too soon to realistically plan yet, but definitely something we've talked about. All other things being equal, I totally would :)
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22:54 drojf eythian: awesome! way more than i could hope for. :) and kind of scary, altogether ;) 24h ago i was wondering if maybe 10 people would join
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23:01 rangi *sigh*
23:01 rangi testbuilder
23:01 wahanui testbuilder is basically exactly for that me thinks.
23:01 rangi breaks more than the tests do
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23:01 rangi its the sqlhelper of unittesting
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23:01 drojf whoops
23:02 drojf rangi: maybe it is a spelling error?
23:02 rangi heh
23:04 wizzyrea SUCH SNARK.
23:04 wizzyrea it's ok, it's funny.
23:09 rangi[…]-'a-sea-of-white'  it never snows there .. that's crazy
23:09 ibeardslee wow
23:10 drojf it's hardly ever 40° here. i think it's ok
23:11 wizzyrea this is some pretty serious cold weather. I think it's as cold as it's been since I've been here.
23:11 wizzyrea maybe one day last year, but definitely not 3+ days
23:11 cait @wunder Konstanz
23:11 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 16.0°C (1:00 AM CEST on July 10, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023 hPa (Rising).
23:12 * wizzyrea pines a bit for 16
23:13 eythian @wunder nzwn
23:13 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 7.0°C (11:00 AM NZST on July 10, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
23:13 eythian only a feels-like of 2° today. It was 1° yesterday...
23:13 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
23:13 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 13.0°C (12:50 AM CEST on July 10, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
23:13 wizzyrea slightly better!
23:13 eythian wizzyrea: twice as much! :)
23:13 drojf lol
23:13 eythian (cos that makes sense at all)
23:13 wizzyrea I... I don't think that is how that works.
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23:14 wizzyrea :D
23:15 * eythian was very confused for a moment, thought I was on a Catalyst channel and was wondering when we'd hired another Josh.
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23:15 Francesca morning
23:16 drojf lol. there is a black market for appointments at berlin citizen centres now. because the service is so bad that you have to wait for weeks
23:16 Francesca rangi: I'll probably be in close to 1pm
23:16 eythian drojf: what do the citizen centres do?
23:16 drojf you get stuff like passports there ;)
23:16 eythian ah right
23:17 eythian we just do it by mail
23:17 eythian / internet
23:17 rangi cool, Francesca
23:17 drojf so if you would like to travel… know it in advance for at least 6 months or… well
23:17 drojf eythian: yeah right, future people :P
23:18 rangi you can take your own passport photo with your phone here, and upload it
23:18 eythian I once got a passport on 7 business days notice over christmas because I forgot to do it and was going to Australia
23:18 rangi i did my whole passport renewal online
23:18 Francesca the last time I needed a passport renewed mum did it
23:18 eythian (mind you, I paid extra for the privilege of getting it fast.)
23:19 rangi they even have a funky bit of software that rejects it if it is too dark, etc, before a human even looks at it
23:19 eythian I should check mine, it may be coming up for renewal
23:19 Francesca I didn't know you could take your own passport photos
23:19 rangi yep, can now
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23:19 ibeardslee I know someone that recently replaced their passport, 3 days, and didn't event do the priority option
23:19 Francesca I always go in to noel seeming or another place to get mine done
23:19 rangi i wonder if they have gone back to the 10 years yet?
23:20 drojf after waiting to weeks for some secret checksum thingy via snailmail i uploaded a photo for health insurance. after two weeks without an answer i called them, they said they did not like my photo, i have to wait another two weeks for a number to upload another one and then another two weeks to maybe get the insurance card
23:20 eythian yeah, when I did my priority one, it was a few years ago
23:20 eythian rangi: I don't think they have
23:20 Francesca hmmm I don't know if its 10 years or not
23:20 eythian they've been talking about it though
23:20 Francesca I thought they had decided they were going to do it
23:20 rangi ahh end of this year
23:20 rangi[…]alid-for-10-years
23:21 rangi hang on to then if you can :)
23:21 Francesca Yeah well I got mine renewed in 2012
23:21 Francesca so its still got another 2 years to go
23:21 drojf (i then declined handing in a photo for religious reasons and got a card without a photo)
23:21 wizzyrea aren't they going to charge something outrageous for the 10 year ones though?
23:21 Francesca can you have passport photos with glasses now? They made me take them off last time
23:22 Francesca and I look really different without my glasses
23:22 Francesca yeah they were
23:22 rangi nope
23:22 rangi they make you take off your glasses when you go through immigration most times too
23:22 Francesca yeah
23:22 wizzyrea because the facial recognition can't deal with glasses.
23:22 Francesca very very annoying as I am practically blind without them
23:23 wizzyrea yeah same.
23:23 Francesca "This will also result in a reduction in the annual price of an adult passport for New Zealanders. The 10-year adult passport price will cost $180 (including GST), an average saving of more than $90 over the 10-year validity period."
23:23 Francesca to quote stuff thats what the passports are gonna cost
23:23 wizzyrea and sorry, anywhere from here where I'm going to have to go through immigration is probably far enough away that I wouldn't want to wear my contact on the plane.
23:23 wizzyrea contacts*
23:23 eythian wizzyrea: I just take my glasses off when going through the scanner things
23:23 drojf $180? Oo
23:24 wizzyrea I do too, but I run into things.
23:24 eythian you're not moving when it's taking your photo though
23:24 eythian well, you shouldn't be
23:24 eythian it tells you to stand still
23:24 Francesca yeah contacts are a pain on the plane
23:24 wizzyrea I like that you don't feel the pressure to get going
23:24 cdickinson drojf: it could be worse, the five year passports are almost that much right now
23:24 Francesca it does but if you can't read the instructions there is a problem
23:24 wizzyrea because I always feel like I have to GTFO of the way as fast as possible
23:24 Francesca I just get the person behind me to tell me what the scanner says
23:25 wizzyrea is harder when shepherding small people :)
23:25 eythian that's a point
23:25 Francesca as I am not allowed to move and can't read without my glasses
23:25 Francesca I'm not that small am I?
23:25 wizzyrea hehe no
23:25 cdickinson lol
23:26 wizzyrea I reckon you can get through immigration just fine on your own ;)
23:26 wizzyrea or customs, I guess
23:26 Francesca yup been there done that
23:26 Francesca american customs in L.A are the scariest
23:27 Francesca the ones in san fran weren't so bad
23:27 wizzyrea I haven't ever been in the "going in" line there.
23:27 cdickinson my sister went through LAX on her way to Germany
23:27 wizzyrea but then again, they claim me.
23:27 cdickinson she was held up there for aaaaagges
23:27 wizzyrea so it would probably be not terrible
23:28 Francesca we visited L.A in 2012
23:28 Francesca stayed there for a bit before going to canada for christmas
23:28 Francesca we went to disney land
23:29 eythian All I know about LA is from Blade Runner. It doesn't look like an inviting place in four years time.
23:29 drojf »Villa Blumenfisch am Großen Wannsee« lol there are great hotel options in berlin. villa flowerfish…
23:30 Francesca villa flowerfish??
23:30 eythian I'm sure that place isn't a groß as it sounds.
23:30 eythian *as
23:30 drojf lol
23:31 drojf i consider creating a hipster lemonade by that name now. but it is probably trademarked
23:31 rangi well i wannsee it at least
23:31 rangi cross language puns are the wurst
23:31 drojf hehe
23:31 wizzyrea #dadjokes
23:32 * Francesca is slightly confused
23:32 eythian wizzyrea: that channel is empty...?
23:33 wizzyrea not anymore.
23:33 wizzyrea condition, to join it every statement must be a pun.
23:33 eythian[…]duty-ringtones/63 <-- wizzyrea, set these up for thatcher when he's on pager
23:34 wizzyrea eythian++ that's amazing.
23:34 * wizzyrea sends taht
23:34 * Francesca should probably do something productive now
23:35 eythian I think wizzyrea is having a seizure over there.
23:35 wizzyrea that's amazing.
23:36 wizzyrea the pager he wields isn't nearly smart enough to use .mp3 for it's tones, but boy if it was...
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23:39 eythian haha
23:39 BobB good morning #koha
23:40 eythian drojf: I can't log in to the FSF page to see where I am in it, "De pagina verwijst niet op een juiste manier door." which is not helpful at all.
23:40 BobB that's Dutch?  eythian is your man!
23:41 eythian it is, but that was already me.
23:41 BobB oh
23:41 eythian Also, there are people here who are significantly better at it than I am :)
23:42 drojf there is a hostel called »Cat's Pajamas«. sold
23:42 eythian haha
23:42 eythian excellent
23:42 cait drojf: why are you researching hostels? :)
23:42 Francesca i love that name
23:43 drojf cait: because i wanted to close tabs and then there was a funny name and then i thought why not fiund a nice place to stay if i am too bored to go home, or something
23:43 cait aha
23:43 cait go to sleep
23:44 drojf orrr. do i have to?
23:44 eythian it is nearly lunch time, after all
23:47 drojf "the hostel for 10€/night is sold out, would you like to book this one for 00€/night instead?" sure why not
23:47 cait drojf: just meaning well...
23:47 drojf s/00€/100€
23:48 Francesca only 1 week still Armageddon now!
23:51 eythian I haven't _seen_ any of the horsemen yet.
23:52 Francesca horsemen? for Armageddon?
23:52 wizzyrea the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse.
23:52 eythian four of them, traditionally
23:54 Francesca right
23:54 Francesca well I have to catch a bus in 20 mins so I should probably go and do something
23:54 cait your knowledge about the armageddon makes me worry a bt :)
23:54 cait i better got to sleep
23:55 cait night all
23:55 wahanui goodnight cait. You'll be back.
23:55 wizzyrea It could be your last.
23:55 drojf should we ask greece for an update regarding kohacon 16? or just wait until september? i found an email to the main list from 2011 from Giannis Kourmoulis. i don't see other (or any) contact details in the wiki
23:55 * Francesca waves goodbye to cait
23:55 wizzyrea that's kind of an awkward situation :/
23:55 drojf night cait
23:55 cait drojf: i think bugzilla has an email address - i think more details would be nice
23:55 cait :)
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23:55 Francesca (Bad pun time) right armageddon out of here see you all later this afternoon
23:56 eythian that was horriffic
23:56 cdickinson *claps slowly*
23:56 wizzyrea WELL DONE.
23:56 wizzyrea you are allowed in #dadjokes.
23:56 cdickinson off to /r/dadjokes with you, Francesca
23:56 Francesca woo hoo! I'm normally bad at puns
23:57 Francesca right I will see you all later
23:57 * Francesca waves goodbye to everyone
23:57 eythian > The gorge is closed while emergency services work to empty the truck of blood. <-- that sure is a line from the local news
23:57 wizzyrea wot
23:58 cdickinson and that is /r/nocontext worthy
23:58 wizzyrea link or it didn't happen
23:58 eythian[…]d-of-animal-blood
23:58 * wizzyrea blinks
23:58 wizzyrea what are they going to do with the blood? put it into the river?
23:58 * wizzyrea reads
23:59 eythian presumably another tanker
23:59 wizzyrea they don't say what, if anything, happened to the driver

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