IRC log for #koha, 2015-06-09

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00:01 eythian things shouldn't have to parse the rules themselves, there should be a module for it.
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00:16 cait I THINK i got it working
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02:40 dcook @later tell magnuse Thanks for the sign off :)
02:40 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
03:00 dcook You know you need to eat lunch when you try to read a Bugzilla comment, but all you can think is "food... food... food..."
03:02 eythian oh, are you looking into the meal circulation module in koha?
03:04 dcook The IsMemberHungry() function
03:04 dcook There was a change to the documentation about what it returns but I couldn't concentrate
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03:28 dcook Bleargh... bugs
03:30 dcook Hmm, might still be a bug in master too. Guess it's a chance for another patch..
03:33 dcook Oh ho ho. I wonder how many people actually use "patron card creator"... or if they all just use PostScript Points for their units...
03:41 dcook Ah, I think it actually does save the right units.. just doesn't show them later..
03:41 dcook Hmm maybe not..
03:56 dcook Wow... this code is just... wow
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04:28 dcook bug 14366 if anyone wants an easy one...
04:28 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14366 minor, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Needs Signoff , Units doesn't get saved usefully for patroncards
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05:53 magnuse kia ora ashimema
06:01 * eythian managed to make a big pile of SQL to convert the current form of elasticsearch mapping tables into a normalised form. I'm surprised it worked, and hte only issues were that it highlighted a couple of errors.
06:01 eythian This'll make it easier to make a user interface to edit it in the future.
06:09 eythian hmm, maybe I have an error in it after all
06:09 * eythian leaves that for tomorrow.
06:10 dcook \o/
06:10 dcook MARC?
06:10 wahanui rumour has it MARC is the standard that isn't
06:10 dcook MARC?
06:10 wahanui The MARC specs live at - abandon hope all ye who enter here.
06:10 dcook No, I want it to die.
06:10 dcook That's what I want, wahanui.
06:10 wahanui i haven't a clue, dcook
06:10 dcook Neither does it
06:12 dcook Well, the XSLT isn't set up right either, but shhh
06:12 magnuse lulz
06:15 eythian ah, there was an error. I had some field names backwards. Now that's fixed, I really can go :)
06:16 magnuse like "xedni"?
06:16 eythian no, the many-many mapping was really a many-many mapping by accident.
06:17 eythian (those two manys have been switched around, you see.)
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06:24 magnuse eythian: as long as you can figure it out :-)
06:24 magnuse kia ora akafred
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06:41 reiveune hello
06:41 wahanui hello, reiveune
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06:58 alex_a bonjour
06:58 wahanui bonjour, alex_a
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07:33 fridolin hie
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08:23 paul_p good morning from Stockholm, ELAG2015 !
08:23 magnuse bonjour paul_p!
08:25 paul_p magnuse after norway in april, finland in may, sweden in june ! "visiting" nordic countries.
08:25 paul_p (I say "visiting" because it's for business, not really visiting ;-) )
08:27 liw wait, Finland? last month? too late
08:28 magnuse liw: just hop on a ferry to stockholm! :-)
08:30 liw magnuse, alas, I'd really rather not be on those ferries :)
08:37 viktor Track history for MARC-records. Have this been discussed? I'm writing the first parts of an RFC and though it may have been diskussed previously.
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08:54 magnuse viktor: i don't think it has been discussed
08:55 viktor magnuse: Thanks. Then it's not lack of search skills that is the reason I dont find any previous bugs about it :)
08:57 viktor We were talking in the team and I thought history for MARC records were a giant feature. They seemed a bit more "Lets do a JSON array where we stick everything and then just an interface to restore changes" about the whole thing.
09:05 xarragon In the yaz client, is there a way to list available databases?
09:05 xarragon I get unavailable for the biblios database, and I have no idea how to troubleshoot it.
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10:15 magnuse hm... <meta name="generator" content="Koha 3.0006008" /> is that 3.6.8?
10:39 mtj i think its 3.00.06-008 magnuse
10:39 mtj so,  3.0.6
10:48 cait wow
11:02 kivilahtio_ @later tell viktor we are interested to collect the modification history of MARC-Records. Some dimwits keep modifying/cataloguing them poorly and we want to teach them to catalog better
11:02 huginn kivilahtio_: The operation succeeded.
11:21 magnuse mtj: thanks, i was afraid of that...
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11:25 magnuse @wunder stockholm
11:26 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
11:26 magnuse @wunder stockholm, sweden
11:26 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Stockholm Bromma, Sweden is 16.0°C (1:20 PM CEST on June 09, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady).
11:26 magnuse @wunder boo
11:26 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (1:20 PM CEST on June 09, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
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12:32 * misilot wishes labels liked him better
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12:33 * cait wishes printers did
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12:34 misilot cait: ya that would be nice. I am trying to get the measurements for the labels right. I just wish Koha supported labels with two different column sizes, but I figure I can compromise and print the labels twice
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12:55 misilot is there any way to add text infront of specific fields in the label layouts?
12:59 cait hm take a look at the help file
12:59 cait i think you can do something like 'text'
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13:08 misilot thanks cait will try that
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13:31 cait mveron++
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14:26 xarragon Okay i solved my zebra problems; Debian Jessie has changed the path to the zebra modules.
14:27 xarragon Probably old news to many of you here I guess.
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15:02 xarragon Weird, there is a commit from May 22 to fix that module issue in existing installations
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15:07 xarragon Well it was all on the top of the zebra troubleshooting page. So now I just feel really stupid.
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15:11 misilot question with labels, is it possible to omit the copy number if it is a "1"? and add a c. to the front of any that are >1? I tried adding a c. but it puts it on a new line. Thanks!
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15:36 reiveune bye
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16:05 mveron Hi #koha
16:05 mveron @wunder Allschwil
16:05 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 17.0°C (6:00 PM CEST on June 09, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
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16:22 ivan hola
16:22 ivan Where can I find indexing files?
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16:32 ivan Where can I find indexing files?
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17:20 ivan hola
17:20 ivan buenas tardes!
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17:25 eskaaren Does anyone know what I must configure to get the checkboxes for Email in Patron messaging preferences?
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17:48 ivan hOLA
17:48 wahanui que tal, ivan
17:48 ivan cAIT
17:48 ivan cait
17:48 ivan hola
17:48 cait hola
17:49 ivan Disculpa soy el mismo de ayer
17:49 ivan no puedo conseguir realizar busqueda por coleccion CCODE
17:49 cait hi ivan, I think I understand, but can we switch to english?
17:49 cait i don't speak spanish very well
17:50 talljoy khall so you can see what i've done
17:50 ivan No puedo conseguir realizar la busqueda por coleccion (CCODE)
17:51 ivan I can not get search on collection (CCODE)
17:51 cait hm i have no more ideas about that I am afraid
17:52 ivan And I want to tell Koha they look on the label 595, but nose how to do it
17:52 cait ah
17:52 cait you can't do that
17:52 cait without changing Koha's code
17:52 cait koha expects it in another field - 952
17:53 ivan Yes Koha awaits on the label 952 but I have my records in the 595
17:53 cait hm your records or your item informatoin?
17:54 ivan Maybe that's why not looking, then I want to change the tag number by 595, but do not know where
17:54 cait i would not recommend that
17:55 cait i'd recommend to change your data
17:55 ivan ok
17:55 ivan There are thousands of records
17:55 cait you'd have to change all the indexing and still might run into some problems
17:56 cait koha has a batch record edit feature in 3.20
17:56 cait or you could export and reimport the data after changing it with a tool
17:56 cait soome people use marcedit for tasks like this
17:56 cait the collection in koha is item information
17:57 ivan Ok,
17:57 cait the problem is that 595 is not indexed by the search engine as collection
17:59 ivan How I can index the 595? So you can carry out tests
17:59 ivan what files modified?
18:00 cait there is information on the wiki about adding new indexes
18:01 ivan I will mourn :'(
18:01 cait generelly I recommend against using another field for item information
18:01 cait if you just want to add another field to the collection index
18:01 cait that would probably be quite safe
18:03 cait[…]d_new_zebra_index
18:03 cait you want to change the xml file, then run the xsltproc... then reindex
18:03 ivan exact accurate is what I do how do I do it?
18:04 ivan exact accurate is what I do how do I do it?
18:04 wahanui i already had it that way, ivan.
18:04 ivan Goood, gooood,
18:05 ivan I'll try anything you commented, you walk all day around here?
18:09 eskaaren Does anyone know what I must configure to get the checkboxes for Email in Patron messaging preferences? Only dashes are shown and I cant get to work...
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18:13 cait eskaaren: you should not need to configure anything
18:13 cait there are some mysql table that are needed to have the correct data, but t his data should be installed with koha
18:13 cait if something went wrong there that woudl be a bug or maybe a side effect of testing something
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18:14 cait overde notices pl is independent from the messaging settings - there are different ways to run it
18:14 cait the easiest way is using tools > notice triggers and then run the cronjob with -t
18:15 eskaaren OK but must not the checkboxes for email in Patron messaging preferences be selected?
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18:15 eskaaren This is for bug 12769
18:15 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12769 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maxime.beaulieu, Needs Signoff , Notice fee management
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18:22 cait eskaaren: the overdes are totally separate
18:23 cait eskaaren: it's dependent on if the patron has an email address and on the templates you set up for the overdue notices i tihnk
18:23 eskaaren Also in tools -> notice triggers, when I check a box and click save changes the page is reset with no values.
18:23 cait hmmm that should not happen
18:23 cait maybe try this first: pick a library, then fill only out one tab
18:24 cait make sure you set the delay value, the notice and at least one checkbox for the transport type (email)
18:24 cait see if it saves if all 3 are filled out
18:25 eskaaren Yes I had to set a value in Delay > 0
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18:35 magnuse cait++
18:36 drojf good evening #koha
18:36 cait hey drojf :)
18:36 drojf hi cait :)
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20:23 * magnuse waves
20:24 nengard hola magnuse
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20:26 magnuse kia ora nengard
20:26 nengard :)
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21:39 cait aleisha++ # fixing bugs!
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21:50 cait some native speakers around?
21:50 cait Default tax rates are  [list of tax rates]        (enter in numeric form, 0.12 for 12%. First is the  default. If you want more than 1 value, please separate with |)
21:51 cait i got a bug that says 'default' is confusing
21:51 cait one suggestion is: Possible tax rates are ...
21:51 cait Usable tax rates are...
21:54 cait wizzyrea maybe?
21:54 wizzyrea hm which bug?
21:55 cait bug 11458
21:55 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11458 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathsabypro, ASSIGNED , Confusing description for syspref gist
21:56 wizzyrea so the objection is to using "default" in two different contexts?
21:57 cait yep i think so
21:57 pianohacker ohh, THAT's what that does
21:57 pianohacker I was so confused when I was writing that
21:58 cait available tax rates...maybe?
21:58 wizzyrea Tax rates are [list]. Enter in numeric form, 0.12 for 12%. The first item in the list will be selected by default. For more than one value, separate with | (pipe)
21:59 cait nice
21:59 cait may i use tht for my patch? :)
21:59 wizzyrea of course :)
22:00 cait thank you :)
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22:10 cait aleisha++ more old bug fixing :)
22:10 aleisha :)
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