IRC log for #koha, 2015-06-08

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00:37 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
00:37 mtompset @later tell tcohen That PEGI 15 failure reminds me of a timezone issue in the code. I recall finding and fixing it, but I forgot to submit it. :)
00:37 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
00:52 cait hey mtompset
00:52 wahanui rumour has it mtompset is catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry
00:52 cait you scared us a bit with that comment
00:52 cait is everything ok?
00:52 mtompset Yes, but I didn't want people to think I was slacking on that bug. :)
00:52 mtompset Well, no, because I'm sure there are going to be huge financial implications as yet to be realized.
00:53 mtompset But yes, everyone is alive and okay.
00:53 mtompset Still a little shaken by it.
00:54 mtompset Annoyed (the person drove off without giving information) and shaken (because getting close calls like that is scary).
00:57 cait :(
00:58 cait hope things will turn out ok
00:59 mtompset I got the license correct
00:59 mtompset So, the police will be following up with the other person at their address.
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00:59 mtompset Leaving the scene of an accident does not bode well for them.
01:08 cait aah
01:08 cait good you got the license
01:19 mtompset There... found the PEGI 15 error again.
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01:23 cait1 huh
01:25 mtompset The failed tests on U14.
01:25 mtompset I found where they occur again.
01:25 mtompset Don't know if this patch is right, but it will work. :)
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01:32 mtompset indradg: Can you test something for me?
01:32 mtompset Start up any koha dev system and just 'prove -v t/Circulation/AgeRestrictionMarkers.t'
01:33 mtompset I believe it should work for you.
01:33 indradg mtompset: checking
01:34 indradg mtompset: yes.. it clears
01:34 mtompset Do you know how to change your timezone to EST/EDT?
01:34 mtompset (i.e. my timezone)
01:36 mtompset I suspect if you change to my timezone and run the same thing it will fail.
01:36 eythian mtompset: you just need to move.
01:36 eythian problem solved.
01:37 mtompset tell that to all the libraries in the wrong time zone. :P
01:40 mtompset bug 13462
01:40 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13462 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, RESOLVED FIXED, I18N system preferences language/opaclanguages descriptions need an update
01:40 mtompset Oops... wrong one.
01:40 mtompset bug 14362
01:40 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14362 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , PEGI 15 Circulation/AgeRestrictionMarkers test fails
01:41 mtompset And indradg: sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
01:42 indradg mtompset: i know how to do that... the only way I can have my servers in US and France show me IST :D
01:43 mtompset I didn't. Just thought I'd share, just in case. :)
01:44 indradg mtompset: yes.. you are right... changed to Eastern time.. and boom! test 7 fails
01:44 mtompset It's something related to Date_to_Days(Today) not account for, or including, timezone.
01:45 indradg hmm
01:49 mtompset That's why I switched it with my own built date, and it works.
02:05 mtj hey eythian, ive noticed that  ./debian/build-git-snapshot still uses 'squeeze-dev' as a default distribution...
02:05 mtj squeeze-dev doesnt seem to be a valid value, and create some warnings
02:06 mtj is it a bug, of sorts?
02:08 mtj if someone was attempting to build a 3.18 koha pkg, on deb6 via pbuilder
02:08 mtj ... would 'squeeze-dev' be the best option there... or oldstable?
02:10 mtj i'm kinda thinking 'oldstable' myself... but thought id ask
02:19 mtj would a general default of 'stable' be better than 'squeeze-dev'?
02:25 wizzyrea pretty sure he's got this already in his mind
02:25 wizzyrea one of many things he'd like to do
02:28 mtj hey wizzyrea
02:28 wahanui wizzyrea is silly
02:28 wizzyrea wahanui: forget wizzyrea
02:28 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot wizzyrea
02:30 ibeardslee heh
02:31 mtj no probs, im not quite sure how important the --distro value is at the mo
02:36 mtompset Greetings, mtj wizzyrea ibeardslee
02:37 mtompset I was pondering... is there a nice way to loop through the timezones in perl?
02:39 ibeardslee it's perl, bound to be
02:39 ibeardslee .. well maybe not nice ;)
02:40 ibeardslee our perl guru says 'no, .. what does loop through timezones even mean?'
02:40 * ibeardslee reads through scrollback to get some context
02:43 mtj[…]teTime::TimeZone->all_names
02:44 mtj mtompset:  ^ perhaps?
02:45 mtompset it means change the system time to "24" differing timezones and test time related tests again. :)
02:45 mtompset bug 14362
02:45 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14362 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , PEGI 15 Circulation/AgeRestrictionMarkers test fails
02:46 mtompset It would be nice to add some kind of regression test into the mix, not just a testable fix.
02:57 mtj but pass, i dont really understand the Q either
02:58 mtompset right now, if there is a difference in day between your timezone and UTC, the PEGI 15 test will fail.
02:59 mtompset as soon as they are the same day... no issues.
02:59 mtompset I would like to run the pegi 15 test for all 24 major timezones, because regardless of timezone the test shouldn't fail.
03:02 mtompset or "loop through timezones". :)
03:02 mtompset Does that clarify, mtj?
03:04 mtj why not convert your time to UTC-0, before the comparision?
03:05 mtj ah, that wouldnt fix it, for some timezones..
03:05 mtj hmm, pass, atm
03:08 mtj perhaps the PEGI time needs to be converted to your local timezone
03:10 mtompset No, my patch works.
03:10 mtj the .test.t , before its compared to your local time
03:10 mtompset I just want to have multi-timezone regression testing.
03:11 mtompset kind of hard to 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata' in a perl script. :)
03:14 mtj sounds awesome, btw ^
03:15 mtj .. but having the test work for the system's current timezone is probably good enough :)
03:16 mtompset mtj: no, because then it won't catch this error, which I patched. ;)
03:16 mtompset found a nice shell command.
03:16 mtompset timedatectl
03:20 * wizzyrea thought you were talking about flying dinosaurs there for a moment
03:23 mtompset wizzyrea++ # good sense of humour. :)
03:23 mtompset Time::Fake!
03:23 wizzyrea it's really just bad reading comprehension :P
03:24 mtompset +1 for overlapping areas. :)
03:26 mtj mtompset: curious, does the test fail after your patch is applied?
03:26 mtompset No. :)
03:27 mtompset I tested mine (fails without), india and philippines (both successful currently)
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03:28 mtj ..ah ok, looks like a well-spotted bug then :0)
03:28 mtompset But it wouldn't always be spotted.
03:29 mtompset It just happened to be one of the failed tests in the latest U14 Jenkins run.
03:29 mtompset I recalled finding and fixing it before.
03:29 mtompset Never submitted the patch.
03:29 mtompset I'm amending the error of my ways. :)
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04:00 Francesca sup
04:04 indradg kia ora!
04:04 indradg hi Francesca
04:04 indradg and everyone who is around :)
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04:06 indradg hi aleisha
04:06 aleisha hi indradg
04:07 Francesca hi aleisha
04:07 aleisha hiii Francesca
04:07 Francesca hows east?
04:07 aleisha good good, getting pretty busy now
04:08 Francesca I can imagine
04:08 Francesca final year, almost the end of the 2nd term and you're a prefect
04:08 aleisha yeah always a lot to do
04:09 Francesca fun times
04:09 Francesca and on top of all that you play the guitar and sing
04:09 Francesca very impressive
04:11 aleisha haha thanks
04:11 rangi and get on the front page of the paper
04:12 Francesca ohh I didn't know this
04:12 Francesca what was that for?
04:12 Francesca oh wait
04:12 Francesca was that the silicon valley article?
04:12 aleisha no it was for yik yak and things
04:13 Francesca oh yeah I saw that on stuff
04:13 aleisha yeah the video interview was better
04:13 Francesca no but seriously how do you do the guitar thing?
04:13 Francesca I'm learning but I much prefer the piano
04:14 aleisha i dont really know, i just search up songs and hope the chords are ones i already know or are easy to work out haha
04:14 Francesca lol
04:14 Francesca Thats one apprach
04:15 Francesca *approach
04:15 Francesca my friend from uni is teaching me
04:15 Francesca we just kinda jam before lectures
04:15 aleisha that's cool
04:16 Francesca yeah. So are you planning on coming to vic next year?
04:16 aleisha probably yeah
04:16 Francesca cool
04:18 Francesca rangi and co will be surrounded by uni students, you, me and cdikinson if he's still around
04:21 ibeardslee nah, secondary students make better slave labour
04:21 ibeardslee .. oops did I type that out loud
04:22 Francesca yup
04:22 Francesca ibeardslee: you won't be getting rid of me quite so easily
04:23 Francesca even if you so require more slave labour lol
04:37 AmitG hi all
04:45 mtompset mtj: revised tests on that bug. Though, I'm unhappy. It should vary per timezone, you would think.
04:45 mtompset Have a great day, #koha AmitG indradg Francesca aleisha rangi mtj wizzyrea eythian. :)
04:45 wizzyrea later
04:45 Francesca bye
04:46 indradg bye
04:47 AmitG hi indradg
04:47 indradg hi AmitG
04:52 mtj hey indradg, AmitG
04:52 indradg hiya mtj
04:53 mtj aleisha: have you heard Kaki King yet? ->[…]out_to_pink_noise
04:54 aleisha no i haven't mtj
04:54 aleisha any good?
04:54 mtj 60 secs in... ^
04:54 AmitG heya mtj
04:55 aleisha i'll have a look when i get home!
04:58 mtj aleisha: i had to have a couple of listens... its pretty weird/challenging stuff
05:00 mtj ..anyhoo, i gotta scoot, ciao
05:03 aleisha bye mtj!
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06:24 reiveune hello
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07:01 alex_a bonjour
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07:16 magnuse bonjour, tout le monde!
07:16 magnuse @wunder boo
07:16 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on June 08, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
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07:39 gaetan_B hello
07:39 wahanui bonjour, gaetan_B
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09:59 * cait waves
10:00 Francesca sup cait
10:00 cait hi Francesca - still around? :)
10:01 Francesca watching dwts and my laptops still open so yup
10:01 Francesca also I'm being held down by my cat
10:01 cait :)
10:01 Francesca he wants cuddles
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10:47 cait morning all :)
10:47 cait hi khall :)
10:47 khall mornin!
10:50 magnuse cait: morning?
10:50 cait i am on vacation :)
10:50 cait mornings are later now
10:50 magnuse lucky you!
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11:20 cait hi BobB and viktor
11:21 viktor Hi cait!
11:24 magnuse tjänare viktor
11:24 viktor Hej magnuse!
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12:01 barton morning #koha!
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12:28 tcohen morning
12:29 tcohen mtompset++ # him+family safe after car accident
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12:46 cait morning tcohen
12:46 tcohen hi cait!
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13:21 geek_cl hello o/ #koha
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14:09 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14053: DBRev <[…]fe4bdd07c79fef871> / Bug 14053: Acquisition db tables are missing indexes <[…]427537bdcae5a0699> / Bug 14053: Acquisition db tables are missing indexes - atomicupdates <[…]koha.git;a=commit
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15:27 reiveune bye
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15:55 gaetan_B bye
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18:04 cait bag: ping?
18:04 wahanui Using deft allegory, the authors have provided an insightful and intuitive explanation of one of Unix's most venerable networking utilities.[…]oks/dp/0448421658
18:07 pianohacker cait: I think he's still moving
18:07 cait oh
18:07 cait do you think he reads email?
18:08 pianohacker cait: intermittently yes
18:18 cait we will see :)
18:18 cait pianohacker: what are you wokring on today? :)
18:18 pianohacker cait: raaaaaancor (and miscellaneous bugs). You?
18:18 cait hm no work, vacation
18:18 cait but i might do some fun things later :P
18:19 pianohacker nice
19:23 pianohacker does bug 13068 mean that we no longer add system preferences to sysprefs.sql ourselves?
19:23 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13068 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , New feature for DB update and sandbox
19:25 nengard not feeling too well - moving to other laptop and couch - brb
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19:26 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10355: paramater 'object' lost on the road <[…]4f446dc3ba69dab59> / Bug 14344: uninitialized value warning C4/Utils/DataTables/ <[…]d7e9a713168a21c28>
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19:43 Ivan hi!
19:44 nengard hello
19:44 wahanui kia ora, nengard
19:45 Ivan Help! I can not search for mc-ccode, i have authorized values
19:46 Ivan Hi!
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20:13 Ivan hello!
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20:14 rangi morning
20:15 Ivan Help! I can not search for mc-ccode, i have authorized values
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20:27 pianohacker Ivan: could you clarify a bit?
20:28 Ivan ok
20:28 Ivan i have a asystem koha
20:29 pianohacker cait: Do you remember how we were talking about adding a syspref to enable Rancor? I put it on an "Experimental features" tab, and that name wraps to two lines. I had the idea to call the tab "Labs" (a la Gmail) instead. Thoughts?
20:29 cait ew
20:29 cait not ew in a bad way, just no idea :)
20:30 cait labs sounds kind of ok to me
20:30 cait maybe a question of how much we want it to stand out
20:30 cait separate tab or put it on tha cataloguing tab
20:32 pianohacker cait: I think this is a good tab to have; back when granular permissions were optional, I feel like they would have gone here. But on the other hand, the tab would be pretty empty
20:33 cait it would highlight features
20:33 cait can be a positive thing too
20:33 cait it's really just a question of how much we want to highlight it maybe
20:34 pianohacker kk. I'll change the name to Labs (with a helpful tag) and let tomas decide on the highlighting front
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21:06 wizzyrea pianohacker: maybe just "experimental"
21:43 Ivan Sorry
21:43 Ivan i have collection
21:45 Ivan i cant search by collection
21:45 Ivan ccode
21:51 cait Ivan: what are you trying to do?
21:51 cait does the collection search not show up in your advanced search?
21:52 Ivan Search by collection Advanced search
21:52 cait take a look at administration> system preferences > AdvancedSearchTypes
21:53 cait make sure that you have something like itemtypes|ccode in there
21:53 cait and then check the advanced search again
21:53 Ivan But does not show anything, I have authorized ccode values, and when I try to make a search does not show results
21:54 cait do the search options show up, but you get no results?
21:54 Ivan In the system of preferences if I have enabled if it shows me, but when I make the search does not show me anything
21:55 cait ok, and you have an item that has the collection applied to it?
21:55 cait is your search in general working correctly?
21:55 Ivan A search does not show results :(
21:56 Ivan }Use CCODE and general search is done correctly
21:57 cait it#s hard to tell what's going wrong
21:57 cait did you manually catalog the items?
21:57 cait how do your authorised value codes look like?
22:00 Ivan If you realize manually, the codes are as follows: AC AR CD CYT CPC CSC CRIL GBC GIS INI IDC INT IR
22:00 cait hm they look ok
22:00 cait and you got the same in the itmes, right?
22:01 cait didyou import them or catalog them inside of koha?
22:03 Ivan I do not remember if I have the same in the items
22:04 Ivan You mean the items that appear in the OPAC in advanced search, if so, if I have the same
22:07 cait Ivan: sorry, running out of ideas
22:07 cait i'd try and manually catalog a new record with an item that has one of the collections - try to see if that works
22:08 Ivan ok,
22:10 Ivan What I really want is to search by collection, not if it's something of the query in the database.
22:10 cait it should work out of the box
22:10 cait there is nothing to set up
22:10 cait there must be a problem with indexing or your data in your installation - but it's hard to figure it out
22:12 Ivan But only it occurs with collections, general search this correctly.
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22:30 eythian hi
22:35 cait so what does sound better: average loan time OR average checkout period ?
22:35 rangi the first to me
22:35 cait i should have gussed - yo udon't like checkout
22:38 eythian cait: they sounds like two different things
22:38 eythian well, potentially
22:39 eythian the first sounds less ambiguous, anyway
22:39 cait it's a report we have
22:39 cait the first is what we list it on the reports page
22:39 cait the second is the heading shown on the page itself..
22:39 eythian to me the checkout period sounds more like the number of days you have to return it from issue, rather than the amount of time it was actually out
22:39 cait i am having a look at bug 13452
22:39 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13452 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Average checkout report always uses biblioitems.itemtype
22:40 eythian sure, I'm just picking on the language :)
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23:46 cait this script makes me cry.
23:47 cait the average chekout time thing only works if you have a circulation condition with no wildcards
23:47 cait so exact library, patron category and itype
23:48 eythian ick
23:58 cait hm... but i am not sur what it uses issuelength for actually....
23:58 cait there are some weird things going oin there
23:58 cait but it does get the issuelength from the issuingrules... just not sure what for

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