Time  Nick         Message
00:37 mtompset     Greetings, #koha.
00:37 mtompset     @later tell tcohen That PEGI 15 failure reminds me of a timezone issue in the code. I recall finding and fixing it, but I forgot to submit it. :)
00:37 huginn       mtompset: The operation succeeded.
00:52 cait         hey mtompset
00:52 wahanui      rumour has it mtompset is catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry
00:52 cait         you scared us a bit with that comment
00:52 cait         is everything ok?
00:52 mtompset     Yes, but I didn't want people to think I was slacking on that bug. :)
00:52 mtompset     Well, no, because I'm sure there are going to be huge financial implications as yet to be realized.
00:53 mtompset     But yes, everyone is alive and okay.
00:53 mtompset     Still a little shaken by it.
00:54 mtompset     Annoyed (the person drove off without giving information) and shaken (because getting close calls like that is scary).
00:57 cait         :(
00:58 cait         hope things will turn out ok
00:59 mtompset     I got the license correct
00:59 mtompset     So, the police will be following up with the other person at their address.
00:59 mtompset     Leaving the scene of an accident does not bode well for them.
01:08 cait         aah
01:08 cait         good you got the license
01:19 mtompset     There... found the PEGI 15 error again.
01:23 cait1        huh
01:25 mtompset     The failed tests on U14.
01:25 mtompset     I found where they occur again.
01:25 mtompset     Don't know if this patch is right, but it will work. :)
01:32 mtompset     indradg: Can you test something for me?
01:32 mtompset     Start up any koha dev system and just 'prove -v t/Circulation/AgeRestrictionMarkers.t'
01:33 mtompset     I believe it should work for you.
01:33 indradg      mtompset: checking
01:34 indradg      mtompset: yes.. it clears
01:34 mtompset     Do you know how to change your timezone to EST/EDT?
01:34 mtompset     (i.e. my timezone)
01:36 mtompset     I suspect if you change to my timezone and run the same thing it will fail.
01:36 eythian      mtompset: you just need to move.
01:36 eythian      problem solved.
01:37 mtompset     tell that to all the libraries in the wrong time zone. :P
01:40 mtompset     bug 13462
01:40 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13462 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, RESOLVED FIXED, I18N system preferences language/opaclanguages descriptions need an update
01:40 mtompset     Oops... wrong one.
01:40 mtompset     bug 14362
01:40 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14362 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , PEGI 15 Circulation/AgeRestrictionMarkers test fails
01:41 mtompset     And indradg: sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
01:42 indradg      mtompset: i know how to do that... the only way I can have my servers in US and France show me IST :D
01:43 mtompset     I didn't. Just thought I'd share, just in case. :)
01:44 indradg      mtompset: yes.. you are right... changed to Eastern time.. and boom! test 7 fails
01:44 mtompset     It's something related to Date_to_Days(Today) not account for, or including, timezone.
01:45 indradg      hmm
01:49 mtompset     That's why I switched it with my own built date, and it works.
02:05 mtj          hey eythian, ive noticed that  ./debian/build-git-snapshot still uses 'squeeze-dev' as a default distribution...
02:05 mtj          squeeze-dev doesnt seem to be a valid value, and create some warnings
02:06 mtj          is it a bug, of sorts?
02:08 mtj          if someone was attempting to build a 3.18 koha pkg, on deb6 via pbuilder
02:08 mtj          ... would 'squeeze-dev' be the best option there... or oldstable?
02:10 mtj          i'm kinda thinking 'oldstable' myself... but thought id ask
02:19 mtj          would a general default of 'stable' be better than 'squeeze-dev'?
02:25 wizzyrea     pretty sure he's got this already in his mind
02:25 wizzyrea     one of many things he'd like to do
02:28 mtj          hey wizzyrea
02:28 wahanui      wizzyrea is silly
02:28 wizzyrea     wahanui: forget wizzyrea
02:28 wahanui      wizzyrea: I forgot wizzyrea
02:30 ibeardslee   heh
02:31 mtj          no probs, im not quite sure how important the --distro value is at the mo
02:36 mtompset     Greetings, mtj wizzyrea ibeardslee
02:37 mtompset     I was pondering... is there a nice way to loop through the timezones in perl?
02:39 ibeardslee   it's perl, bound to be
02:39 ibeardslee   .. well maybe not nice ;)
02:40 ibeardslee   our perl guru says 'no, .. what does loop through timezones even mean?'
02:40 * ibeardslee reads through scrollback to get some context
02:43 mtj          http://search.cpan.org/dist/DateTime-TimeZone/lib/DateTime/TimeZone.pm#DateTime::TimeZone->all_names
02:44 mtj          mtompset:  ^ perhaps?
02:45 mtompset     it means change the system time to "24" differing timezones and test time related tests again. :)
02:45 mtompset     bug 14362
02:45 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14362 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , PEGI 15 Circulation/AgeRestrictionMarkers test fails
02:46 mtompset     It would be nice to add some kind of regression test into the mix, not just a testable fix.
02:57 mtj          but pass, i dont really understand the Q either
02:58 mtompset     right now, if there is a difference in day between your timezone and UTC, the PEGI 15 test will fail.
02:59 mtompset     as soon as they are the same day... no issues.
02:59 mtompset     I would like to run the pegi 15 test for all 24 major timezones, because regardless of timezone the test shouldn't fail.
03:02 mtompset     or "loop through timezones". :)
03:02 mtompset     Does that clarify, mtj?
03:04 mtj          why not convert your time to UTC-0, before the comparision?
03:05 mtj          ah, that wouldnt fix it, for some timezones..
03:05 mtj          hmm, pass, atm
03:08 mtj          perhaps the PEGI time needs to be converted to your local timezone
03:10 mtompset     No, my patch works.
03:10 mtj          ..in the .test.t , before its compared to your local time
03:10 mtompset     I just want to have multi-timezone regression testing.
03:11 mtompset     kind of hard to 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata' in a perl script. :)
03:14 mtj          sounds awesome, btw ^
03:15 mtj          .. but having the test work for the system's current timezone is probably good enough :)
03:16 mtompset     mtj: no, because then it won't catch this error, which I patched. ;)
03:16 mtompset     found a nice shell command.
03:16 mtompset     timedatectl
03:20 * wizzyrea   thought you were talking about flying dinosaurs there for a moment
03:23 mtompset     wizzyrea++ # good sense of humour. :)
03:23 mtompset     Time::Fake!
03:23 wizzyrea     it's really just bad reading comprehension :P
03:24 mtompset     +1 for overlapping areas. :)
03:26 mtj          mtompset: curious, does the test fail after your patch is applied?
03:26 mtompset     No. :)
03:27 mtompset     I tested mine (fails without), india and philippines (both successful currently)
03:28 mtj          ..ah ok, looks like a well-spotted bug then :0)
03:28 mtompset     But it wouldn't always be spotted.
03:29 mtompset     It just happened to be one of the failed tests in the latest U14 Jenkins run.
03:29 mtompset     I recalled finding and fixing it before.
03:29 mtompset     Never submitted the patch.
03:29 mtompset     I'm amending the error of my ways. :)
04:00 Francesca    sup
04:04 indradg      kia ora!
04:04 indradg      hi Francesca
04:04 indradg      and everyone who is around :)
04:06 indradg      hi aleisha
04:06 aleisha      hi indradg
04:07 Francesca    hi aleisha
04:07 aleisha      hiii Francesca
04:07 Francesca    hows east?
04:07 aleisha      good good, getting pretty busy now
04:08 Francesca    I can imagine
04:08 Francesca    final year, almost the end of the 2nd term and you're a prefect
04:08 aleisha      yeah always a lot to do
04:09 Francesca    fun times
04:09 Francesca    and on top of all that you play the guitar and sing
04:09 Francesca    very impressive
04:11 aleisha      haha thanks
04:11 rangi        and get on the front page of the paper
04:12 Francesca    ohh I didn't know this
04:12 Francesca    what was that for?
04:12 Francesca    oh wait
04:12 Francesca    was that the silicon valley article?
04:12 aleisha      no it was for yik yak and things
04:13 Francesca    oh yeah I saw that on stuff
04:13 aleisha      yeah the video interview was better
04:13 Francesca    no but seriously how do you do the guitar thing?
04:13 Francesca    I'm learning but I much prefer the piano
04:14 aleisha      i dont really know, i just search up songs and hope the chords are ones i already know or are easy to work out haha
04:14 Francesca    lol
04:14 Francesca    Thats one apprach
04:15 Francesca    *approach
04:15 Francesca    my friend from uni is teaching me
04:15 Francesca    we just kinda jam before lectures
04:15 aleisha      that's cool
04:16 Francesca    yeah. So are you planning on coming to vic next year?
04:16 aleisha      probably yeah
04:16 Francesca    cool
04:18 Francesca    rangi and co will be surrounded by uni students, you, me and cdikinson if he's still around
04:21 ibeardslee   nah, secondary students make better slave labour
04:21 ibeardslee   .. oops did I type that out loud
04:22 Francesca    yup
04:22 Francesca    ibeardslee: you won't be getting rid of me quite so easily
04:23 Francesca    even if you so require more slave labour lol
04:37 AmitG        hi all
04:45 mtompset     mtj: revised tests on that bug. Though, I'm unhappy. It should vary per timezone, you would think.
04:45 mtompset     Have a great day, #koha AmitG indradg Francesca aleisha rangi mtj wizzyrea eythian. :)
04:45 wizzyrea     later
04:45 Francesca    bye
04:46 indradg      bye
04:47 AmitG        hi indradg
04:47 indradg      hi AmitG
04:52 mtj          hey indradg, AmitG
04:52 indradg      hiya mtj
04:53 mtj          aleisha: have you heard Kaki King yet? -> http://www.ted.com/talks/kaki_king_rocks_out_to_pink_noise
04:54 aleisha      no i haven't mtj
04:54 aleisha      any good?
04:54 mtj          60 secs in... ^
04:54 AmitG        heya mtj
04:55 aleisha      i'll have a look when i get home!
04:58 mtj          aleisha: i had to have a couple of listens... its pretty weird/challenging stuff
05:00 mtj          ..anyhoo, i gotta scoot, ciao
05:03 aleisha      bye mtj!
06:24 reiveune     hello
07:01 alex_a       bonjour
07:16 magnuse      bonjour, tout le monde!
07:16 magnuse      @wunder boo
07:16 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on June 08, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
07:39 gaetan_B     hello
07:39 wahanui      bonjour, gaetan_B
09:59 * cait       waves
10:00 Francesca    sup cait
10:00 cait         hi Francesca - still around? :)
10:01 Francesca    watching dwts and my laptops still open so yup
10:01 Francesca    also I'm being held down by my cat
10:01 cait         :)
10:01 Francesca    he wants cuddles
10:47 cait         morning all :)
10:47 cait         hi khall :)
10:47 khall        mornin!
10:50 magnuse      cait: morning?
10:50 cait         i am on vacation :)
10:50 cait         mornings are later now
10:50 magnuse      lucky you!
11:20 cait         hi BobB and viktor
11:21 viktor       Hi cait!
11:24 magnuse      tjänare viktor
11:24 viktor       Hej magnuse!
12:01 barton       morning #koha!
12:28 tcohen       morning
12:29 tcohen       mtompset++ # him+family safe after car accident
12:46 cait         morning tcohen
12:46 tcohen       hi cait!
13:21 geek_cl      hello o/ #koha
14:09 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14053: DBRev 3.21.00.007 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a215c79cc9ce512eb2994ebfe4bdd07c79fef871> / Bug 14053: Acquisition db tables are missing indexes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a6017d87f16266e8947b046427537bdcae5a0699> / Bug 14053: Acquisition db tables are missing indexes - atomicupdates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit
15:27 reiveune     bye
15:55 gaetan_B     bye
18:04 cait         bag: ping?
18:04 wahanui      Using deft allegory, the authors have provided an insightful and intuitive explanation of one of Unix's most venerable networking utilities. http://www.amazon.com/Story-about-Reading-Railroad-Books/dp/0448421658
18:07 pianohacker  cait: I think he's still moving
18:07 cait         oh
18:07 cait         do you think he reads email?
18:08 pianohacker  cait: intermittently yes
18:18 cait         we will see :)
18:18 cait         pianohacker: what are you wokring on today? :)
18:18 pianohacker  cait: raaaaaancor (and miscellaneous bugs). You?
18:18 cait         hm no work, vacation
18:18 cait         but i might do some fun things later :P
18:19 pianohacker  nice
19:23 pianohacker  does bug 13068 mean that we no longer add system preferences to sysprefs.sql ourselves?
19:23 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13068 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , New feature for DB update and sandbox
19:25 nengard      not feeling too well - moving to other laptop and couch - brb
19:26 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10355: paramater 'object' lost on the road <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0002126a2ab0ac38a8d3f144f446dc3ba69dab59> / Bug 14344: uninitialized value warning C4/Utils/DataTables/Members.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d82aeb352f35ec37fdd62fed7e9a713168a21c28>
19:43 Ivan         hi!
19:44 nengard      hello
19:44 wahanui      kia ora, nengard
19:45 Ivan         Help! I can not search for mc-ccode, i have authorized values
19:46 Ivan         Hi!
20:13 Ivan         hello!
20:14 rangi        morning
20:15 Ivan         Help! I can not search for mc-ccode, i have authorized values
20:27 pianohacker  Ivan: could you clarify a bit?
20:28 Ivan         ok
20:28 Ivan         i have a asystem koha
20:29 pianohacker  cait: Do you remember how we were talking about adding a syspref to enable Rancor? I put it on an "Experimental features" tab, and that name wraps to two lines. I had the idea to call the tab "Labs" (a la Gmail) instead. Thoughts?
20:29 cait         ew
20:29 cait         not ew in a bad way, just no idea :)
20:30 cait         labs sounds kind of ok to me
20:30 cait         maybe a question of how much we want it to stand out
20:30 cait         separate tab or put it on tha cataloguing tab
20:32 pianohacker  cait: I think this is a good tab to have; back when granular permissions were optional, I feel like they would have gone here. But on the other hand, the tab would be pretty empty
20:33 cait         it would highlight features
20:33 cait         can be a positive thing too
20:33 cait         it's really just a question of how much we want to highlight it maybe
20:34 pianohacker  kk. I'll change the name to Labs (with a helpful tag) and let tomas decide on the highlighting front
21:06 wizzyrea     pianohacker: maybe just "experimental"
21:43 Ivan         Sorry
21:43 Ivan         i have collection
21:45 Ivan         i cant search by collection
21:45 Ivan         ccode
21:51 cait         Ivan: what are you trying to do?
21:51 cait         does the collection search not show up in your advanced search?
21:52 Ivan         Search by collection Advanced search
21:52 cait         take a look at administration> system preferences > AdvancedSearchTypes
21:53 cait         make sure that you have something like itemtypes|ccode in there
21:53 cait         and then check the advanced search again
21:53 Ivan         But does not show anything, I have authorized ccode values, and when I try to make a search does not show results
21:54 cait         do the search options show up, but you get no results?
21:54 Ivan         In the system of preferences if I have enabled if it shows me, but when I make the search does not show me anything
21:55 cait         ok, and you have an item that has the collection applied to it?
21:55 cait         is your search in general working correctly?
21:55 Ivan         A search does not show results :(
21:56 Ivan         }Use CCODE and general search is done correctly
21:57 cait         it#s hard to tell what's going wrong
21:57 cait         did you manually catalog the items?
21:57 cait         how do your authorised value codes look like?
22:00 Ivan         If you realize manually, the codes are as follows: AC AR CD CYT CPC CSC CRIL GBC GIS INI IDC INT IR
22:00 cait         hm they look ok
22:00 cait         and you got the same in the itmes, right?
22:01 cait         didyou import them or catalog them inside of koha?
22:03 Ivan         I do not remember if I have the same in the items
22:04 Ivan         You mean the items that appear in the OPAC in advanced search, if so, if I have the same
22:07 cait         Ivan: sorry, running out of ideas
22:07 cait         i'd try and manually catalog a new record with an item that has one of the collections - try to see if that works
22:08 Ivan         ok,
22:10 Ivan         What I really want is to search by collection, not if it's something of the query in the database.
22:10 cait         it should work out of the box
22:10 cait         there is nothing to set up
22:10 cait         there must be a problem with indexing or your data in your installation - but it's hard to figure it out
22:12 Ivan         But only it occurs with collections, general search this correctly.
22:30 eythian      hi
22:35 cait         so what does sound better: average loan time OR average checkout period ?
22:35 rangi        the first to me
22:35 cait         i should have gussed - yo udon't like checkout
22:38 eythian      cait: they sounds like two different things
22:38 eythian      well, potentially
22:39 eythian      the first sounds less ambiguous, anyway
22:39 cait         it's a report we have
22:39 cait         the first is what we list it on the reports page
22:39 cait         the second is the heading shown on the page itself..
22:39 eythian      to me the checkout period sounds more like the number of days you have to return it from issue, rather than the amount of time it was actually out
22:39 cait         i am having a look at bug 13452
22:39 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13452 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Average checkout report always uses biblioitems.itemtype
22:40 eythian      sure, I'm just picking on the language :)
23:46 cait         this script makes me cry.
23:47 cait         the average chekout time thing only works if you have a circulation condition with no wildcards
23:47 cait         so exact library, patron category and itype
23:48 eythian      ick
23:58 cait         hm... but i am not sur what it uses issuelength for actually....
23:58 cait         there are some weird things going oin there
23:58 cait         but it does get the issuelength from the issuingrules... just not sure what for