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| 00:01 |
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drojf |
dcook: a fan letter to? :D |
| 00:02 |
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dcook |
drojf: Honestly, I don't remember his name anymore. He was a writer. Actually, he may have even been the ghostwriter behind a different name. I'm not sure. |
| 00:02 |
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| 00:03 |
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dcook |
It may have been Star Wars related though :p |
| 00:05 |
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| 00:10 |
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drojf |
"The estimated shipping time provided by the shipping company is 15 to 20 days" |
| 00:10 |
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drojf |
haha. not even close |
| 00:10 |
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drojf |
more like 80 to 90 :) |
| 00:25 |
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| 00:47 |
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indradg |
Bug 14284 |
| 00:47 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14284 trivial, P3, ---, indradg, Needs Signoff , Typo in Languages.pm |
| 00:50 |
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| 01:30 |
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indradg |
eythian: around? |
| 01:30 |
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eythian |
yarp |
| 01:31 |
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indradg |
just read your reply to DP Tripathi's single line installer |
| 01:33 |
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indradg |
he's targetting it at rank newbies with zero linux skills, assumes a fresh desktop install, does not trap responses or errors and just rides off happily into the sunset with looking around or behind |
| 01:33 |
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indradg |
and you didn't gnash your teeth at disabling default site :D eythian |
| 01:34 |
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eythian |
because it's doing such a basic installation, if you don't disable the default site, it won't work. It's not doing any virtualhost based separation like is standard. |
| 01:38 |
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drojf |
great, birds are getting up already |
| 01:38 |
|
eythian |
heh |
| 01:38 |
|
eythian |
that's always a bad sign |
| 01:38 |
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drojf |
indeed |
| 01:38 |
|
drojf |
good night #koha ;) |
| 02:14 |
|
eythian |
indradg: happy now with my followup? |
| 02:18 |
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indradg |
eythian: heh... it is just that I've wasted too much time dealing with in-production boxes off Koha LiveDVDs and addressing user issues |
| 02:18 |
|
eythian |
yeah, fair enough |
| 02:19 |
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mtompset |
eythian++ # YAY! ;) |
| 02:20 |
|
eythian |
I don't really like how it sets it up, and certainly wouldn't recommend how it sets it up. But I could see it being good as a quick way to get someone to the point of doing local experimentation. |
| 02:20 |
|
eythian |
err |
| 02:20 |
|
eythian |
* recommend how it sets it up for production use |
| 02:23 |
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indradg |
eythian: this morning I had to spend 20 mins on a conf just to get someone not to waste their time trying 3.20 on 12.04... what finally settled it was me pointing to your email in april about dropping support |
| 02:26 |
|
eythian |
ah, fun times |
| 02:26 |
|
eythian |
12.04 must be nearing EOL |
| 02:27 |
|
eythian |
ah, april 2017 |
| 02:27 |
|
eythian |
or, this august if you haven't kept it up to date. |
| 02:28 |
|
eythian |
http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian <-- indradg, I also list the supported releases here |
| 02:29 |
|
indradg |
eythian++ |
| 02:32 |
|
mtompset |
Why 12.04 when 14.04 is out?! |
| 02:33 |
|
eythian |
people do strange things sometimes. |
| 02:33 |
|
eythian |
why do we get questions like "I've just installed 3.06, and..." |
| 02:33 |
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mtompset |
But it's a whole stinking year later. That makes no sense. |
| 02:33 |
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indradg |
actually there is very "sound" reason why 12.04 |
| 02:34 |
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mtompset |
What is the "sound" reason? They have the LiveDVD? |
| 02:36 |
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indradg |
mtompset: most of the LiveDVD ninjas used Remastersys |
| 02:36 |
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indradg |
the last version on which remastersys worked was 12.04 |
| 02:36 |
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indradg |
and hence the proliferation |
| 02:36 |
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mtompset |
Oh no, the pirates need to learn new linux commands. ;) |
| 02:37 |
|
eythian |
I once wrote a Linux remastering script. |
| 02:37 |
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indradg |
i never liked the cruft that remastersys put in |
| 02:37 |
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eythian |
though, with a specific goal in mind. |
| 02:39 |
|
eythian |
it actually took a .iso that you'd download, mount it, make changes, and rewrite it to a .iso. |
| 02:39 |
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geek_cl |
eythian, where is that iso file |
| 02:39 |
|
eythian |
geek_cl: what iso file? |
| 02:39 |
|
geek_cl |
that Koha- LiveDVD |
| 02:40 |
|
eythian |
geek_cl: I'm not actually sure. But see above how we were talking about how it can lead to problems? I'd be inclined to avoid it. |
| 02:40 |
|
eythian |
wahanui1: live cd |
| 02:40 |
|
wahanui1 |
eythian: huh? |
| 02:41 |
|
eythian |
wahanui1: why have you changed your name? |
| 02:41 |
|
wahanui1 |
no idea, eythian |
| 02:41 |
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eythian |
wahanui1: go fix it. |
| 02:41 |
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wahanui1 |
eythian: sorry... |
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| 02:41 |
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eythian |
better. |
| 02:41 |
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indradg |
i remember someone once got into an argument with rangi why 3.14 was the best of the best... and nothing else is yet to match up! |
| 02:42 |
|
eythian |
haha |
| 02:42 |
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geek_cl |
eythian, and what about this: http://kohageek.blogspot.com/2[…]-32-released.html and this: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ive_DVD_Blueprint and this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/kohalivedvd/ |
| 02:42 |
|
wizzyrea |
eythian: we could list supported OS's on the website |
| 02:43 |
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indradg |
wizzyrea: +1 |
| 02:43 |
|
wizzyrea |
it's not constantly changing, and would probably be a good thing to do |
| 02:43 |
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eythian |
wizzyrea: well, I'm thinking mostly about the packages. |
| 02:43 |
|
eythian |
It's possible to get it to run on almost anything with enough time. |
| 02:43 |
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wizzyrea |
that's what I meant too :P |
| 02:43 |
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eythian |
geek_cl: what about them? |
| 02:43 |
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geek_cl |
are good ones? |
| 02:43 |
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wizzyrea |
http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ < here |
| 02:44 |
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rangi |
there are no good ones |
| 02:44 |
|
rangi |
the idea is flawed |
| 02:44 |
|
geek_cl |
ok |
| 02:44 |
|
eythian |
geek_cl: I don't have particuarly good opinions on any of them |
| 02:44 |
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* wizzyrea |
neither |
| 02:44 |
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geek_cl |
Ok, just reading your comments |
| 02:44 |
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eythian |
(though the sourceforge one is package-based which is better than they used to be.) |
| 02:45 |
|
rangi |
we do people no favours making it easy for them to install something, with no understanding why/how they installed it, why they should keep it up to date, etc |
| 02:45 |
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geek_cl |
i agree, |
| 02:45 |
|
rangi |
not for something as important as running a library anyway |
| 02:46 |
|
geek_cl |
thanks for you comments guys, |
| 02:46 |
|
geek_cl |
see you later |
| 02:46 |
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geek_cl |
bye #koha |
| 02:47 |
|
eythian |
later |
| 02:47 |
|
indradg |
it would be like handing someone who has never seen one, a loaded Glock and not telling them that the glock does not have a traditional safety |
| 02:47 |
|
rangi |
cya geek_cl |
| 02:48 |
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indradg |
bye geek_cl |
| 02:48 |
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wizzyrea |
http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ < Eythian |
| 02:49 |
|
eythian |
wizzyrea: is the "not recommended" bit new? It seems a bit much to me, I'd be inclined to just say that packages are preferred where feasible, or something. |
| 02:49 |
|
wizzyrea |
no, it's not new |
| 02:49 |
|
wizzyrea |
it's been that way for quite a while |
| 02:49 |
|
eythian |
OK :) |
| 02:50 |
|
* eythian |
tries to ignore the inconsistent typesetting around there, too. |
| 02:50 |
|
* eythian |
mostly fails :) |
| 02:50 |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
| 02:50 |
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wizzyrea |
that little section needs a header of some kind. |
| 02:50 |
|
wizzyrea |
gdi now I have to fix it. |
| 02:56 |
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mtompset |
eythian: We don't all have a TARDIS. :P |
| 02:57 |
|
mtompset |
(to make Koha work on anything) |
| 03:07 |
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wizzyrea |
http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ < better at all? |
| 03:07 |
|
eythian |
yea, I think so |
| 03:08 |
|
wizzyrea |
yay! |
| 03:08 |
|
* wizzyrea |
doesn't mind caring for the website, and doesn't mind suggestions |
| 03:09 |
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| 03:10 |
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mtompset |
wizzyrea: Am I crazy for thinking Debian 8 should be listed before Debian 7? :) |
| 03:11 |
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eythian |
mtompset: depends on your preference for numerical order or not, I suppose. |
| 03:12 |
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mtompset |
I was just thinking people read as little as possible. |
| 03:12 |
|
mtompset |
If we put Debian 8 first, that's what they will use. |
| 03:13 |
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mtompset |
Assuming they are a LtR culture. :) |
| 03:15 |
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| 03:30 |
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eythian |
https://youtu.be/H0CGBc_PIbI <-- dcook :) |
| 03:31 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 03:31 |
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dcook |
I feel like that sometimes |
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| 03:33 |
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AmitG |
hi all |
| 03:33 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, AmitG. |
| 03:33 |
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mtompset |
dcook: Translate? |
| 03:36 |
|
eythian |
yeah, dcook. Translate. |
| 03:40 |
|
eythian |
rats, he seems to have gone |
| 03:43 |
|
dcook |
Lots and lots of swearing |
| 03:44 |
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eythian |
I think you should do a real translation. |
| 03:44 |
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dcook |
I don't know if a real translation is possible to be honest |
| 03:44 |
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dcook |
A literal translation would be essentially nonsense |
| 03:44 |
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eythian |
heh, probably true |
| 03:44 |
|
dcook |
A more nuanced translation... I don't think we have swears in English for all of those ones :p |
| 03:45 |
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dcook |
I've seen a good one in graphic form though.. |
| 03:45 |
|
dcook |
Possibly done by Michel Rabagliati |
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mtompset |
Have a great day, #koha dcook eythian AmitG indradg wizzyrea |
| 04:04 |
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mtj |
has anyone done a nytprof on a koha checkout recently? |
| 04:05 |
|
eythian |
not lately |
| 04:05 |
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mtj |
ive got a graph here, with a crazy amount of Date::* stuff |
| 04:06 |
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AmitG |
hya mtj |
| 04:30 |
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mtj |
hey AmitG, nice to see you :0) |
| 04:32 |
|
* dcook |
wonders how a person thought writing $fld instead of $field was helpful |
| 04:33 |
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dcook |
Exactly |
| 04:33 |
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dcook |
It's enough to quit IRC over |
| 04:34 |
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eythian |
haha |
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| 04:38 |
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* dcook |
needs to brush up on his binary |
| 04:42 |
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eythian |
0, 1. |
| 04:42 |
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eythian |
done. |
| 04:43 |
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dcook |
:P |
| 04:44 |
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dcook |
I need to brush up on binary operations and bitwise operators |
| 04:47 |
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dcook |
Or maybe I just need to learn what the bits in this other system mean :p |
| 04:48 |
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mtj |
hmm, ive been poking at a koha with slow circ, today... |
| 04:49 |
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mtj |
turns out that the problem is a large(ish) 'loan period', in smart-rules.pl |
| 04:49 |
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mtj |
around 300 |
| 04:50 |
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mtj |
..anyone else bumped into that? |
| 04:50 |
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mtj |
tested on 3.20 fwiw |
| 04:50 |
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* dcook |
hasn't used 3.20 yest |
| 04:50 |
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dcook |
yet* |
| 04:51 |
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dcook |
How is the problem a large loan period? |
| 04:51 |
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mtj |
veeeery slow circ reponse |
| 04:51 |
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dcook |
What I mean is... why does it slow down? |
| 04:52 |
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dcook |
I would think adding 300 days to a datetime wouldn't be that hard... if that's what it does |
| 04:52 |
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* dcook |
spent a long time with DateTime yesterday |
| 04:52 |
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mtj |
nytprof says lots of calls to date::stuff |
| 04:52 |
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eythian |
dcook: OK, work out what -~x and ~-x do in C/C++, and why, and you'll have it all sorted. |
| 04:52 |
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dcook |
eythian: I did see a reference to ~$something at one point :S |
| 04:53 |
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eythian |
dcook: that's not what I said. |
| 04:53 |
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dcook |
I think I get how they're packing their bits at the moment though |
| 04:53 |
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dcook |
eythian: I know. I'm just saying I saw the tilde and went "Hmm I should figure out what that means" |
| 04:53 |
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dcook |
:p |
| 04:53 |
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eythian |
it's a bitwize complement |
| 04:53 |
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eythian |
*wise |
| 04:54 |
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* dcook |
is looking as we breathe |
| 04:54 |
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mtj |
"I would think adding 300 days to a datetime wouldn't be that hard... if that's what it does" |
| 04:55 |
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mtj |
dcook: koha seems to be doing DT math on each day in the loan-period |
| 04:56 |
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eythian |
it's probably accounting for holidays |
| 04:56 |
|
eythian |
perhaps badly |
| 04:56 |
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dcook |
mtj: Certainly worth investigating more :) |
| 04:56 |
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mtj |
eythian: yeah, i reckon thats it |
| 04:57 |
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eythian |
probably needs some optimisation somewhere. |
| 04:57 |
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dcook |
Atm, I'm more interested in '<<' |
| 04:57 |
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mtj |
heh, yep... :) |
| 04:58 |
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eythian |
dcook: that means "a lot less than" |
| 04:58 |
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dcook |
:P |
| 05:03 |
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dcook |
Would love if "when" had more documentation too.. |
| 05:04 |
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* dcook |
assumes when(1) means when($_ == 1)... |
| 05:04 |
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dcook |
or... when($_ =~ /1/) |
| 05:04 |
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dcook |
err if for those last two whens.. |
| 05:06 |
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eythian |
dcook: given...when is currently experimental, iirc |
| 05:07 |
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dcook |
yeah, you recall correctly |
| 05:07 |
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dcook |
This isn't for Koha, and there are a lot of experimental features... |
| 05:07 |
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dcook |
Fun times :) |
| 05:07 |
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eythian |
also, when(1) != when($_ == 1). |
| 05:07 |
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dcook |
Yeah, I guess not |
| 05:07 |
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dcook |
when(1) == when(/1/) ? |
| 05:07 |
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dcook |
in this case, it's using a for loop rather than given |
| 05:08 |
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eythian |
no, I don't think so. |
| 05:08 |
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eythian |
I think that's just like saying "true" |
| 05:08 |
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dcook |
Well, I'll find out in a minute after doing some tests |
| 05:08 |
|
eythian |
apparently it's complicated |
| 05:08 |
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eythian |
> Exactly what the EXPR argument to when does is hard to describe precisely, but in general, it tries to guess what you want done. |
| 05:08 |
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eythian |
how perly |
| 05:08 |
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dcook |
Considering how many if(1) and if(0) I see in this code.. |
| 05:08 |
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dcook |
lol |
| 05:08 |
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eythian |
> It also behaves differently when lexically enclosed by a given block than it does when dynamically enclosed by a foreach loop. The rules are far too difficult to understand to be described here. |
| 05:08 |
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dcook |
O_O |
| 05:09 |
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eythian |
http://perldoc.perl.org/perlsy[…]on-given-and-when |
| 05:09 |
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dcook |
I'm just going to do an experiment and see how it's working in this case |
| 05:09 |
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* dcook |
will report back |
| 05:09 |
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eythian |
if you're not back by dawn, we'll call search and rescue. |
| 05:10 |
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dcook |
Merci |
| 05:10 |
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dcook |
Hmm when(0) definitely isn't the same as if(0) |
| 05:11 |
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dcook |
At least not within a for loop |
| 05:12 |
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dcook |
"If your code still needs to run on older versions, stick to foreach for your topicalizer and you will be less unhappy." |
| 05:15 |
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dcook |
Hmm but when(0) is definitely not like when(/0/) either |
| 05:15 |
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dcook |
Maybe when(/^0$/).. |
| 05:17 |
|
* magnuse |
waves |
| 05:17 |
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magnuse |
when(\o/) |
| 05:17 |
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eythian |
heh |
| 05:25 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 05:25 |
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dcook |
heya magnuse :) |
| 05:25 |
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dcook |
Binary << returns the value of its left argument shifted left by the number of bits specified by the right argument. |
| 05:25 |
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dcook |
:S |
| 05:25 |
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dcook |
I'm looking at 1 << 1 |
| 05:26 |
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dcook |
which equals 2 |
| 05:32 |
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dcook |
Ah, so it totally works how I thought |
| 05:32 |
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dcook |
It does exactly what it says |
| 05:33 |
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| 05:33 |
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magnuse |
kia ora cait |
| 05:34 |
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dcook |
hey cait :) |
| 05:34 |
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cait |
morning magnuse |
| 05:34 |
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magnuse |
any new converts yet? :-) |
| 05:34 |
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cait |
hi dcook |
| 05:38 |
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magnuse |
opacheader is the recommended syspref for a logo that should show up on all pages? |
| 05:40 |
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eythian |
hi cait |
| 05:40 |
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cait |
magnuse: it's what we use :) |
| 05:40 |
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cait |
hi eythian |
| 05:40 |
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eythian |
dcook: yeah, bitwise stuff is pretty sensible when you think about it. |
| 05:41 |
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eythian |
dcook: find a scientific calculator with binary mode and those operators |
| 05:41 |
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eythian |
dcook: gnome-calculator has them |
| 05:41 |
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magnuse |
thanks cait |
| 05:41 |
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dcook |
Yeah, I just figured that it wouldn't be doing what it was saying, but it totes was |
| 05:42 |
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dcook |
Of course, I think their code might be doing a few other things that are actually crazy and weird |
| 05:42 |
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dcook |
But that's always a possibility |
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magnuse |
bonjour p_vdk |
| 05:53 |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
| 05:53 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0°C (7:20 AM CEST on May 28, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). |
| 05:54 |
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* magnuse |
wants to play with (R)?ex |
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dcook |
@wunder syd |
| 06:10 |
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huginn |
dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 21.0°C (4:00 PM AEST on May 28, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:10 |
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dcook |
Whaat? IT can't be that warm out.. |
| 06:14 |
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cdickinson |
@wunder nzwn |
| 06:16 |
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huginn |
cdickinson: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (6:00 PM NZST on May 28, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:16 |
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dcook |
Ah wait maybe the other binary stuff isn't mad either |
| 06:17 |
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cdickinson |
mmmmm, Koha as a Service shows signs of life |
| 06:17 |
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dcook |
\o/ |
| 06:18 |
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cdickinson |
Puppet modules aren't helping any though, spent all day trying to wrestle with the Apache Puppet module trying to get it to do what I want x_x |
| 06:19 |
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cdickinson |
there is a stupid bug in the libapache2-mpm-itk package for ubuntu 14.04 LTS, where it won't configure properly unless the default MPM is not configured |
| 06:19 |
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cdickinson |
had to make a hack for the Puppet module to do this, and a few other things to get the ITK MPM to install |
| 06:19 |
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cdickinson |
and configure itself without blowing up |
| 06:22 |
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cdickinson |
and with that, I am done here at work for the day. Time to go home and relax for a bit |
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reiveune |
hello |
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magnuse |
bonjour reiveune |
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hi magnuse :) |
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dcook |
This is actually quite helpful: https://developer.mozilla.org/[…]Bitwise_Operators |
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dcook |
I swear I teach myself about bitwise operators once a year... |
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I always forget which one preserves sign, logical or bitwise shifts |
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hi #koha |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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wahanui |
niihau, alex_a |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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magnuse |
bonjour gaetan_B |
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Barbarian |
Hello ladies and gentlemen! I'm working in a school which has recently switched to Koha, and I'm trying to figure out the best methodology to hide a certain category of books from Opac. Would it be better to make a new library and limit Opac to only the original library, or use the OpacHiddenItems YAML thing? |
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Barbarian |
Essentially, we want to use Koha to track textbooks given to students as well as the contents of the library, but not have the textbooks show up in Opac. |
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Viktor |
Hi #koha! |
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magnuse |
hi Viktor |
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Viktor |
hi magnuse |
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magnuse |
Barbarian: i suspect OpacHiddenItems would be the easiest |
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Viktor |
We have no central script for fecthing cover images and deliver them over ajax right? |
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magnuse |
Viktor: isn't that the thing we sponsored? |
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Viktor |
Don't know exactly how they solved it :) |
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magnuse |
bug 7187 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7187 enhancement, P4, ---, kmkale, ASSIGNED , Prioritize cover image sources such as Amazon, Google and add fail over i.e. if first source fails, go to next |
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Viktor |
If it's an actual central API for covers or just stopping the others when one finds something :) |
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Viktor |
Was happy it was going to work and didn't look at the details.. |
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magnuse |
the code should be here: http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]fs/heads/wr222309 |
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Barbarian |
magnuse: Thanks. I'll see if I can manage it without asking silly questions using the manual. |
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magnuse |
Viktor: this looks like the front end script: http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]fs/heads/wr222309 |
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magnuse |
with the heavy lifting done by http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]fs/heads/wr222309 |
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magnuse |
there's a lot of talk about caching in there, at least |
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Viktor |
magnuse++ Thanks! Looks promising. |
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Viktor |
Was a bit worried we might have to revisit this, but it looks like they centralized the whole thing :) |
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Barbarian |
magnuse: Ermm, "code: TXB" doesn't seem to be hiding the item. Does "code" have a different name when it comes to the hidden settings? |
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Barbarian |
Based on some stuff I just found via google, just tried "itype: TXB" as well, which also doesn't work. |
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magnuse |
Barbarian: not sure, off the top of my head |
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magnuse |
http://translate.koha-communit[…]/#OpacHiddenItems |
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magnuse |
i think it has to be "itype: [TXB]" |
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magnuse |
without the quotes |
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magnuse |
but with the um, square parens [] |
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Barbarian |
Sorry, connection dropped for a second. Mind copy/pasting what you just said? |
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magnuse |
<magnuse> http://translate.koha-communit[…]/#OpacHiddenItems |
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magnuse |
<magnuse> i think it has to be "itype: [TXB]" |
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magnuse |
<magnuse> without the quotes |
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magnuse |
but with the um, square parens [] |
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Barbarian |
Got it. Giving it a try |
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Barbarian |
Nope, still displaying the textbook |
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magnuse |
hm, not sure then |
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magnuse |
did you reindex? |
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Barbarian |
magnuse: Just re-indexed and tried again now, didn't seem to help |
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Barbarian |
(assuming that koha-rebuild-zebra does the re-indexing) |
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Barbarian |
magnuse: Ok, different question then: is there a YAML statement I can make to hide based on location? |
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magnuse |
Barbarian: did you do koha-rebuild-zebra -f? |
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magnuse |
the -f does a full reindex |
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magnuse |
without it you just index what is in the zebraqueue |
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Barbarian |
magnuse: No, I did not. Doing it now. |
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magnuse |
you can add -v to see what is happening in more detail |
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Barbarian |
magnuse: Didn't seem to help, but in the manual, it gives as an example this: "itype: [07, 10]". How would I find that number? |
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magnuse |
as far as i can tell, those numbers are just "strings of numbers" that are used in the exact same way as your string TXB |
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Barbarian |
Ah, ok. |
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xarragon |
When using the DBIx framework and TestBuilder, it seems like timestamps needs some extra care with MySQL. There exists a module named DBIx::Class::Timestamp for this purpose. Anyone got any experience with that? |
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xarragon |
Essentially, the database entry created by TestBuilder has no timestamp value, so tests fail. |
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magnuse |
xarragon: sounds like a bug? |
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xarragon |
magnuse: Experience says that I am using it wrong, rather than it being a bug. I am new to DBIx and the test frameworks. |
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xarragon |
TestBuilder is awesome though. I started to write raw SQL like in the existing NewsChanels.pm, and it got bloated pretty fast. |
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* magnuse |
has not looked at TestBuilder yet |
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Barbarian |
magnuse: Do you think it's possible that OpacHiddenItems is only blocking *physical* books instead of the book as a whole? |
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Barbarian |
So the book will still appear in searches, just saying "No Physical Items" |
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xarragon |
Actually, if you DDG for the problem, the Koha Wiki is one the entries: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]s::Schema::Loader |
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xarragon |
magnuse: Ah, no. I was completely wrong. It is just that the news retrieval function does a lot of "massaging" of the column data before it returns it. |
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Barbarian: i *think* it should hide the whole record if all items are hidden |
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indradg |
hola #koha |
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magnuse |
lunch! |
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drojf |
hi #koha |
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hi drojf |
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AmitG |
bug 13993 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13993 normal, P5 - low, ---, amitddng135, Passed QA , Transfer order from one vendor to another vendor previous orderstatus is not changed. |
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Barbarian |
I can't figure this out. I think the only reasonable thing to do at this point is file a bug report |
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Barbarian |
I'll start screenshotting and documenting the steps I've made and put it up on your bugzilla. |
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Viktor |
Same patron having different categories for different branches/libraries. Would that be obviously bad? Because that might be helpful for regions where you cooperate but might have a bit stricter rules for the patron from a neighboring city. |
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liw |
the libraries in Oulu, Finland, have announced they'll be using Koha; this is satisfying to me as an onlooker (currently in Finland, though not in Oulu) |
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mveron |
Hi #koha |
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nengard |
hi mveron |
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nengard |
and #koha |
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mveron |
hi nengard :-) |
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marcelr |
hi mveron nengard |
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mveron |
daag, marcelr :-) |
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marcelr |
gruss got ? |
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marcelr |
spelling.. |
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wahanui |
spelling is a problem with international versions of English. Is there a particular standard preferred in the default EN installation? |
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marcelr |
yeah |
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mveron |
marcelr: Grüezi (in Switzerland) :-) "Grüss Gott" in Germany :-) |
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marcelr |
Grüezi cool |
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mveron |
marcelr: Or 'Hoi' in Switzerland, if you know somebody. same as in the Netherlands as I remember... |
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marcelr |
true |
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marcelr |
ha he hi hoi but we do not have hu |
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mveron |
@wunder Allschwil |
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huginn |
mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 21.0°C (2:30 PM CEST on May 28, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling). |
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mveron |
'Hü' we use to make a horse move :-) |
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marcelr |
well you could use that in Koha hahaha |
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Barbarian |
There seems to be more people on right now, so I figure I'll try my luck one last time before filing a bug report: I have an item type of "Textbooks", circulation code "TXB". I go to OpacHiddenItem in advanced settings and add "itype: [TXB]" to it. In OPAC, textbooks still show up in search results, are still accessible, and are still a category in advanced search. Anyone know what I'm missing? |
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mveron |
Then I would say "Hopp" - it's used to cherlead in sports, e.g. "Hopp Koha" |
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Barbarian |
(I've also tried "ccode: [TXB]", "ccode: [Textbook]", and "itype: [Textbook]" |
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Barbarian |
) |
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mveron |
Barbarian: Will try on my VM |
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Barbarian |
mveron: I'm using version 3.20 btw |
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mveron |
Barbarian: I'm on current master, 3.21.00.002 |
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tcohen |
morning! |
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Barbarian |
Good morning |
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mveron |
hi tcohen :-) |
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tcohen |
hi Barbarian mveron |
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hi tcohen |
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magnuse |
marcelr++ for digging into bug 6874 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Attach a file to a MARC record (Was: File upload in MARC) |
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Barbarian |
mveron: Any luck on hidden items? |
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mveron |
Still digging... |
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* mveron |
Phone call |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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mtompset |
@seen aleisha |
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huginn |
mtompset: aleisha was last seen in #koha 1 day, 9 hours, 31 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <aleisha> yeah just been doing stuff another branch and messed it up a little bit |
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mtompset |
Wow. Okay. She was not on yesterday then. |
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mtompset |
@later tell aleisha Could you please retest bug 14121 on a Debian Jessie box? |
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huginn |
mtompset: The operation succeeded. |
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mveron |
Barbarian: I managed to hide all Books with |
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mveron |
itype: [BK] |
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Barbarian |
Huh. |
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Barbarian |
Did you have to do anything else beforehand to get it working? |
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Barbarian |
Or after? |
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mtompset |
http://schema.koha-community.o[…]tables/items.html |
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mveron |
But only biblios that have items were hidden. Biblios were not hidden. |
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mtompset |
You can use ANY field listed in the items table schema. :) |
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Barbarian |
mveron: Ah! That might explain it, I'll try adding an item, see if that works |
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mveron |
Barbarian: Yeah, that should work. |
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mveron |
Make sure that you set y - koha item type when adding / editing items |
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Barbarian |
mveron: Hmmm, biblio still shows up in the search, and clicking the item leads to a 404. I remember seeing something about that on bugzilla earlier when I checked, 1 min |
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mtompset |
Probably one of my bugs. :) |
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mtompset |
Isn't there some $n that blocks biblio level visibility? |
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Barbarian |
Doing a zebra-rebuild fixed it |
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Barbarian |
Hurray! |
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mveron |
Great :-) |
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Barbarian |
I'll shoot an email over to our librarian so he knows to make sure all textbooks have at least one item attached to them |
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mtompset |
I remember drojf did something with that code. |
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Barbarian |
Thanks for the help |
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mtompset |
What is the MARC code I'm trying to remember, drojf? |
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mveron |
Barbarian: Bug 14007 could be related to your issue |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14007 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Item Types for items hidden by OpacHiddenItems turn up in facet results |
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Barbarian |
That bug is rather confusingly written |
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mveron |
And Bug 9966 - Maybe this is resolved by re-indexing |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9966 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Incorrect 404 when a search returns one result hidden by OpacHiddenItems |
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Barbarian |
mveron: Could very well be. Cleared up my related 404 issue. |
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mveron |
Can you comment on the Bug that it is resolved for you? |
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Barbarian |
It isn't *exactly* the same, but sure. |
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* magnuse |
wanders off |
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Barbarian |
mveron: Do you also want me to put up a new low-priority bug about hidden biblios without items attached? It's a fairly rare situation, I would imagine, but still very confusing if you don't get any results on Google. |
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mveron |
Barbarian: I think it's good to have some trace in Bugzilla. |
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Barbarian |
Alrighty, I'll put it up then |
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Barbarian |
Bug 14288 <--- added |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14288 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Hidden biblios without item attached not hidden |
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Barbarian |
Anyways, it's clock-out time for me. Going home to play games and drink beer. Thanks for the help once again! |
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mtompset |
Barbarian.... there is a MARC code for that. |
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mtompset |
I can't remember the MARC code. |
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mtompset |
942.... |
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mtompset |
942$n! |
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mtompset |
I found it. |
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mtompset |
Curses. He left already. |
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* mveron |
away meeting |
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mveron |
QUit |
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mveron |
:-) |
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talljoy |
morning |
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tcohen |
morning talljoy |
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reiveune |
bye |
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tcohen |
@seen dpavlin |
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huginn |
tcohen: dpavlin was last seen in #koha 11 weeks, 6 days, 0 hours, 10 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <dpavlin> hooray for everybody involved! |
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smirks. |
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mtompset |
tcohen: He is rarely around. |
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tcohen |
mtompset: thanks |
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nengard |
what table stores the koha to marc mapping info? |
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tcohen |
marc_subfield_structure |
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tcohen |
nengard: ? |
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tcohen |
it stores the mapping on the default framework |
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tcohen |
kohafield column |
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nengard |
yes - sorry was on the phone |
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nengard |
found it :) thank you!! |
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tcohen i just heard from brendan. he says that Fernet and Orange Soda do not go well together. fyi. |
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hahahaha |
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talljoy |
darn missed him |
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question what does, "Populate fields with default values from default framework " do on the batch record and batch item deletion pages? |
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nengard |
if there is a default value in your framework it will fill that value in in the editor |
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no clue on the delete tool ... |
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eythian |
@later tell cdickinson feel free to target Debian instead of Ubuntu if it's easier, I won't mind :D |
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huginn |
eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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eythian |
also, hi |
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rangi |
morning |
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hi |
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mtompset |
Greetings, eythian rangi wizzyrea. :) |
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mtompset |
aleisha! The person I was hoping to see. :) |
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aleisha |
hi mtompset :) |
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mtompset |
And now that you spoke, you know why. :) |
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mtompset |
Do you have a Debian Jessie box to test it on, aleisha? :) |
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aleisha |
no i don't |
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eythian |
aleisha: if you need servers for things, let me know. We have plenty we can spin up as needed. |
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aleisha |
how can i get a Debian Jessie box? |
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eythian |
aleisha: this is why we have a Cloud :) |
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mtompset |
eythian++ # Thanks for helping get a bug testing Debian Jessie box spun up. :) |
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mtompset |
marcelr++ # for taking on bug 6874 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Attach a file to a MARC record (Was: File upload in MARC) |
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mtompset |
marcelr++ # for taking on bug 5010. :) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5010 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Passed QA , Fix OPACBaseURL to include protocol |
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mtompset |
I'm so much closer to not having to roll custom distributions. :) |
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