IRC log for #koha, 2015-05-28

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00:01 drojf dcook: a fan letter to? :D
00:02 dcook drojf: Honestly, I don't remember his name anymore. He was a writer. Actually, he may have even been the ghostwriter behind a different name. I'm not sure.
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00:03 dcook It may have been Star Wars related though :p
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00:10 drojf "The estimated shipping time provided by the shipping company is 15 to 20 days"
00:10 drojf haha. not even close
00:10 drojf more like 80 to 90 :)
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00:47 indradg Bug 14284
00:47 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14284 trivial, P3, ---, indradg, Needs Signoff , Typo in
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01:30 indradg eythian: around?
01:30 eythian yarp
01:31 indradg just read your reply to DP Tripathi's single line installer
01:33 indradg he's targetting it at rank newbies with zero linux skills, assumes a fresh desktop install, does not trap responses or errors and just rides off happily into the sunset with looking around or behind
01:33 indradg and you didn't gnash your teeth at disabling default site :D eythian
01:34 eythian because it's doing such a basic installation, if you don't disable the default site, it won't work. It's not doing any virtualhost based separation like is standard.
01:38 drojf great, birds are getting up already
01:38 eythian heh
01:38 eythian that's always a bad sign
01:38 drojf indeed
01:38 drojf good night #koha ;)
02:14 eythian indradg: happy now with my followup?
02:18 indradg eythian: heh... it is just that I've wasted too much time dealing with in-production boxes off Koha LiveDVDs and addressing user issues
02:18 eythian yeah, fair enough
02:19 mtompset eythian++ # YAY! ;)
02:20 eythian I don't really like how it sets it up, and certainly wouldn't recommend how it sets it up. But I could see it being good as a quick way to get someone to the point of doing local experimentation.
02:20 eythian err
02:20 eythian * recommend how it sets it up for production use
02:23 indradg eythian: this morning I had to spend 20 mins on a conf just to get someone not to waste their time trying 3.20 on 12.04... what finally settled it was me pointing to your email in april about dropping support
02:26 eythian ah, fun times
02:26 eythian 12.04 must be nearing EOL
02:27 eythian ah, april 2017
02:27 eythian or, this august if you haven't kept it up to date.
02:28 eythian <-- indradg, I also list the supported releases here
02:29 indradg eythian++
02:32 mtompset Why 12.04 when 14.04 is out?!
02:33 eythian people do strange things sometimes.
02:33 eythian why do we get questions like "I've just installed 3.06, and..."
02:33 mtompset But it's a whole stinking year later. That makes no sense.
02:33 indradg actually there is very "sound" reason why 12.04
02:34 mtompset What is the "sound" reason? They have the LiveDVD?
02:36 indradg mtompset: most of the LiveDVD ninjas used Remastersys
02:36 indradg the last version on which remastersys worked was 12.04
02:36 indradg and hence the proliferation
02:36 mtompset Oh no, the pirates need to learn new linux commands. ;)
02:37 eythian I once wrote a Linux remastering script.
02:37 indradg i never liked the cruft that remastersys put in
02:37 eythian though, with a specific goal in mind.
02:39 eythian it actually took a .iso that you'd download, mount it, make changes, and rewrite it to a .iso.
02:39 geek_cl eythian, where is that iso file
02:39 eythian geek_cl: what iso file?
02:39 geek_cl that Koha- LiveDVD
02:40 eythian geek_cl: I'm not actually sure. But see above how we were talking about how it can lead to problems? I'd be inclined to avoid it.
02:40 eythian wahanui1: live cd
02:40 wahanui1 eythian: huh?
02:41 eythian wahanui1: why have you changed your name?
02:41 wahanui1 no idea, eythian
02:41 eythian wahanui1: go fix it.
02:41 wahanui1 eythian: sorry...
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02:41 eythian better.
02:41 indradg i remember someone once got into an argument with rangi why 3.14 was the best of the best... and nothing else is yet to match up!
02:42 eythian haha
02:42 geek_cl eythian, and what about this:[…]-32-released.html and this:[…]ive_DVD_Blueprint  and this:
02:42 wizzyrea eythian: we could list supported OS's on the website
02:43 indradg wizzyrea: +1
02:43 wizzyrea it's not constantly changing, and would probably be a good thing to do
02:43 eythian wizzyrea: well, I'm thinking mostly about the packages.
02:43 eythian It's possible to get it to run on almost anything with enough time.
02:43 wizzyrea that's what I meant too :P
02:43 eythian geek_cl: what about them?
02:43 geek_cl are good ones?
02:43 wizzyrea < here
02:44 rangi there are no good ones
02:44 rangi the idea is flawed
02:44 geek_cl ok
02:44 eythian geek_cl: I don't have particuarly good opinions on any of them
02:44 * wizzyrea neither
02:44 geek_cl Ok, just reading your comments
02:44 eythian (though the sourceforge one is package-based which is better than they used to be.)
02:45 rangi we do people no favours making it easy for them to install something, with no understanding why/how they installed it, why they should keep it up to date, etc
02:45 geek_cl i agree,
02:45 rangi not for something as important as running a library anyway
02:46 geek_cl thanks for you comments guys,
02:46 geek_cl see you later
02:46 geek_cl bye #koha
02:47 eythian later
02:47 indradg it would be like handing someone who has never seen one, a loaded Glock and not telling them that the glock does not have a traditional safety
02:47 rangi cya geek_cl
02:48 indradg bye geek_cl
02:48 wizzyrea < Eythian
02:49 eythian wizzyrea: is the "not recommended" bit new? It seems a bit much to me, I'd be inclined to just say that packages are preferred where feasible, or something.
02:49 wizzyrea no, it's not new
02:49 wizzyrea it's been that way for quite a while
02:49 eythian OK :)
02:50 * eythian tries to ignore the inconsistent typesetting around there, too.
02:50 * eythian mostly fails :)
02:50 wizzyrea lol
02:50 wizzyrea that little section needs a header of some kind.
02:50 wizzyrea gdi now I have to fix it.
02:56 mtompset eythian: We don't all have a TARDIS. :P
02:57 mtompset (to make Koha work on anything)
03:07 wizzyrea < better at all?
03:07 eythian yea, I think so
03:08 wizzyrea yay!
03:08 * wizzyrea doesn't mind caring for the website, and doesn't mind suggestions
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03:10 mtompset wizzyrea: Am I crazy for thinking Debian 8 should be listed before Debian 7? :)
03:11 eythian mtompset: depends on your preference for numerical order or not, I suppose.
03:12 mtompset I was just thinking people read as little as possible.
03:12 mtompset If we put Debian 8 first, that's what they will use.
03:13 mtompset Assuming they are a LtR culture. :)
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03:30 eythian <-- dcook :)
03:31 dcook hehe
03:31 dcook I feel like that sometimes
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03:33 AmitG hi all
03:33 mtompset Greetings, AmitG.
03:33 mtompset dcook: Translate?
03:36 eythian yeah, dcook. Translate.
03:40 eythian rats, he seems to have gone
03:43 dcook Lots and lots of swearing
03:44 eythian I think you should do a real translation.
03:44 dcook I don't know if a real translation is possible to be honest
03:44 dcook A literal translation would be essentially nonsense
03:44 eythian heh, probably true
03:44 dcook A more nuanced translation... I don't think we have swears in English for all of those ones :p
03:45 dcook I've seen a good one in graphic form though..
03:45 dcook Possibly done by Michel Rabagliati
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03:58 mtompset Have a great day, #koha dcook eythian AmitG indradg wizzyrea
04:04 mtj has anyone done a nytprof on a koha checkout recently?
04:05 eythian not lately
04:05 mtj ive got a graph here, with a crazy amount of Date::* stuff
04:06 AmitG hya mtj
04:30 mtj hey AmitG, nice to see you :0)
04:32 * dcook wonders how a person thought writing $fld instead of $field was helpful
04:33 dcook Exactly
04:33 dcook It's enough to quit IRC over
04:34 eythian haha
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04:38 * dcook needs to brush up on his binary
04:42 eythian 0, 1.
04:42 eythian done.
04:43 dcook :P
04:44 dcook I need to brush up on binary operations and bitwise operators
04:47 dcook Or maybe I just need to learn what the bits in this other system mean :p
04:48 mtj hmm, ive been poking at a koha with slow circ, today...
04:49 mtj turns out that the problem is a large(ish) 'loan period', in
04:49 mtj around 300
04:50 mtj ..anyone else bumped into that?
04:50 mtj tested on 3.20 fwiw
04:50 * dcook hasn't used 3.20 yest
04:50 dcook yet*
04:51 dcook How is the problem a large loan period?
04:51 mtj veeeery slow circ reponse
04:51 dcook What I mean is... why does it slow down?
04:52 dcook I would think adding 300 days to a datetime wouldn't be that hard... if that's what it does
04:52 * dcook spent a long time with DateTime yesterday
04:52 mtj nytprof says lots of calls to date::stuff
04:52 eythian dcook: OK, work out what -~x and ~-x do in C/C++, and why, and you'll have it all sorted.
04:52 dcook eythian: I did see a reference to ~$something at one point :S
04:53 eythian dcook: that's not what I said.
04:53 dcook I think I get how they're packing their bits at the moment though
04:53 dcook eythian: I know. I'm just saying I saw the tilde and went "Hmm I should figure out what that means"
04:53 dcook :p
04:53 eythian it's a bitwize complement
04:53 eythian *wise
04:54 * dcook is looking as we breathe
04:54 mtj "I would think adding 300 days to a datetime wouldn't be that hard... if that's what it does"
04:55 mtj dcook: koha seems to be doing DT math on each day in the loan-period
04:56 eythian it's probably accounting for holidays
04:56 eythian perhaps badly
04:56 dcook mtj: Certainly worth investigating more :)
04:56 mtj eythian: yeah, i reckon thats it
04:57 eythian probably needs some optimisation somewhere.
04:57 dcook Atm, I'm more interested in '<<'
04:57 mtj heh, yep...  :)
04:58 eythian dcook: that means "a lot less than"
04:58 dcook :P
05:03 dcook Would love if "when" had more documentation too..
05:04 * dcook assumes when(1) means when($_ == 1)...
05:04 dcook or... when($_ =~ /1/)
05:04 dcook err if for those last two whens..
05:06 eythian dcook: given...when is currently experimental, iirc
05:07 dcook yeah, you recall correctly
05:07 dcook This isn't for Koha, and there are a lot of experimental features...
05:07 dcook Fun times :)
05:07 eythian also, when(1) != when($_ == 1).
05:07 dcook Yeah, I guess not
05:07 dcook when(1) == when(/1/) ?
05:07 dcook in this case, it's using a for loop rather than given
05:08 eythian no, I don't think so.
05:08 eythian I think that's just like saying "true"
05:08 dcook Well, I'll find out in a minute after doing some tests
05:08 eythian apparently it's complicated
05:08 eythian > Exactly what the EXPR argument to when does is hard to describe precisely, but in general, it tries to guess what you want done.
05:08 eythian how perly
05:08 dcook Considering how many if(1) and if(0) I see in this code..
05:08 dcook lol
05:08 eythian >  It also behaves differently when lexically enclosed by a given block than it does when dynamically enclosed by a foreach loop. The rules are far too difficult to understand to be described here.
05:08 dcook O_O
05:09 eythian[…]on-given-and-when
05:09 dcook I'm just going to do an experiment and see how it's working in this case
05:09 * dcook will report back
05:09 eythian if you're not back by dawn, we'll call search and rescue.
05:10 dcook Merci
05:10 dcook Hmm when(0) definitely isn't the same as if(0)
05:11 dcook At least not within a for loop
05:12 dcook "If your code still needs to run on older versions, stick to foreach for your topicalizer and you will be less unhappy."
05:15 dcook Hmm but when(0) is definitely not like when(/0/) either
05:15 dcook Maybe when(/^0$/)..
05:17 * magnuse waves
05:17 magnuse when(\o/)
05:17 eythian heh
05:25 dcook hehe
05:25 dcook heya magnuse :)
05:25 dcook Binary << returns the value of its left argument shifted left by the number of bits specified by the right argument.
05:25 dcook :S
05:25 dcook I'm looking at 1 << 1
05:26 dcook which equals 2
05:32 dcook Ah, so it totally works how I thought
05:32 dcook It does exactly what it says
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05:33 magnuse kia ora cait
05:34 dcook hey cait :)
05:34 cait morning magnuse
05:34 magnuse any new converts yet? :-)
05:34 cait hi dcook
05:38 magnuse opacheader is the recommended syspref for a logo that should show up on all pages?
05:40 eythian hi cait
05:40 cait magnuse: it's what we use :)
05:40 cait hi eythian
05:40 eythian dcook: yeah, bitwise stuff is pretty sensible when you think about it.
05:41 eythian dcook: find a scientific calculator with binary mode and those operators
05:41 eythian dcook: gnome-calculator has them
05:41 magnuse thanks cait
05:41 dcook Yeah, I just figured that it wouldn't be doing what it was saying, but it totes was
05:42 dcook Of course, I think their code might be doing a few other things that are actually crazy and weird
05:42 dcook But that's always a possibility
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05:53 magnuse bonjour p_vdk
05:53 magnuse @wunder boo
05:53 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0°C (7:20 AM CEST on May 28, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady).
05:54 * magnuse wants to play with (R)?ex
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06:10 dcook @wunder syd
06:10 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 21.0°C (4:00 PM AEST on May 28, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
06:10 dcook Whaat? IT can't be that warm out..
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06:16 cdickinson @wunder nzwn
06:16 huginn cdickinson: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (6:00 PM NZST on May 28, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady).
06:16 dcook Ah wait maybe the other binary stuff isn't mad either
06:17 cdickinson mmmmm, Koha as a Service shows signs of life
06:17 dcook \o/
06:18 cdickinson Puppet modules aren't helping any though, spent all day trying to wrestle with the Apache Puppet module trying to get it to do what I want x_x
06:19 cdickinson there is a stupid bug in the libapache2-mpm-itk package for ubuntu 14.04 LTS, where it won't configure properly unless the default MPM is not configured
06:19 cdickinson had to make a hack for the Puppet module to do this, and a few other things to get the ITK MPM to install
06:19 cdickinson and configure itself without blowing up
06:22 cdickinson and with that, I am done here at work for the day. Time to go home and relax for a bit
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06:32 reiveune hello
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06:34 magnuse bonjour reiveune
06:35 reiveune hi magnuse :)
06:36 dcook This is actually quite helpful:[…]Bitwise_Operators
06:36 dcook I swear I teach myself about bitwise operators once a year...
06:39 cdickinson I always forget which one preserves sign, logical or bitwise shifts
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06:54 marcelr hi #koha
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06:59 alex_a bonjour
06:59 wahanui niihau, alex_a
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07:20 gaetan_B hello
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07:40 magnuse bonjour gaetan_B
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07:50 Barbarian Hello ladies and gentlemen! I'm working in a school which has recently switched to Koha, and I'm trying to figure out the best methodology to hide a certain category of books from Opac. Would it be better to make a new library and limit Opac to only the original library, or use the OpacHiddenItems YAML thing?
07:50 Barbarian Essentially, we want to use Koha to track textbooks given to students as well as the contents of the library, but not have the textbooks show up in Opac.
07:51 Viktor Hi #koha!
07:53 magnuse hi Viktor
07:53 Viktor hi magnuse
07:53 magnuse Barbarian: i suspect OpacHiddenItems would be the easiest
07:54 Viktor We have no central script for fecthing cover images and deliver them over ajax right?
07:54 magnuse Viktor: isn't that the thing we sponsored?
07:54 Viktor Don't know exactly how they solved it :)
07:54 magnuse bug 7187
07:54 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7187 enhancement, P4, ---, kmkale, ASSIGNED , Prioritize cover image sources such as Amazon, Google and add fail over i.e. if first source fails, go to next
07:55 Viktor If it's an actual central API for covers or just stopping the others when one finds something :)
07:55 Viktor Was happy it was going to work and didn't look at the details..
07:55 magnuse the code should be here:[…]fs/heads/wr222309
07:56 Barbarian magnuse: Thanks. I'll see if I can manage it without asking silly questions using the manual.
07:57 magnuse Viktor: this looks like the front end script:[…]fs/heads/wr222309
07:58 magnuse with the heavy lifting done by[…]fs/heads/wr222309
07:59 magnuse there's a lot of talk about caching in there, at least
07:59 Viktor magnuse++ Thanks! Looks promising.
08:01 Viktor Was a bit worried we might have to revisit this, but it looks like they centralized the whole thing :)
08:03 Barbarian magnuse: Ermm, "code: TXB" doesn't seem to be hiding the item. Does "code" have a different name when it comes to the hidden settings?
08:10 Barbarian Based on some stuff I just found via google, just tried "itype: TXB" as well, which also doesn't work.
08:12 magnuse Barbarian: not sure, off the top of my head
08:12 magnuse http://translate.koha-communit[…]/#OpacHiddenItems
08:13 magnuse i think it has to be "itype: [TXB]"
08:13 magnuse without the quotes
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08:13 magnuse but with the um, square parens []
08:13 Barbarian Sorry, connection dropped for a second. Mind copy/pasting what you just said?
08:14 magnuse <magnuse> http://translate.koha-communit[…]/#OpacHiddenItems
08:14 magnuse <magnuse> i think it has to be "itype: [TXB]"
08:14 magnuse <magnuse> without the quotes
08:14 magnuse but with the um, square parens []
08:14 Barbarian Got it. Giving it a try
08:15 Barbarian Nope, still displaying the textbook
08:18 magnuse hm, not sure then
08:18 magnuse did you reindex?
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08:20 Barbarian magnuse: Just re-indexed and tried again now, didn't seem to help
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08:20 Barbarian (assuming that koha-rebuild-zebra does the re-indexing)
08:26 Barbarian magnuse: Ok, different question then: is there a YAML statement I can make to hide based on location?
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08:33 magnuse Barbarian: did you do koha-rebuild-zebra -f?
08:33 magnuse the -f does a full reindex
08:34 magnuse without it you just index what is in the zebraqueue
08:34 Barbarian magnuse: No, I did not. Doing it now.
08:34 magnuse you can add -v to see what is happening in more detail
08:37 Barbarian magnuse: Didn't seem to help, but in the manual, it gives as an example this: "itype: [07, 10]". How would I find that number?
08:39 magnuse as far as i can tell, those numbers are just "strings of numbers" that are used in the exact same way as your string TXB
08:40 Barbarian Ah, ok.
08:59 xarragon When using the DBIx framework and TestBuilder, it seems like timestamps needs some extra care with MySQL. There exists a module named DBIx::Class::Timestamp for this purpose. Anyone got any experience with that?
09:00 xarragon Essentially, the database entry created by TestBuilder has no timestamp value, so tests fail.
09:00 magnuse xarragon: sounds like a bug?
09:03 xarragon magnuse: Experience says that I am using it wrong, rather than it being a bug. I am new to DBIx and the test frameworks.
09:05 xarragon TestBuilder is awesome though. I started to write raw SQL like in the existing, and it got bloated pretty fast.
09:06 * magnuse has not looked at TestBuilder yet
09:17 Barbarian magnuse: Do you think it's possible that OpacHiddenItems is only blocking *physical* books instead of the book as a whole?
09:17 Barbarian So the book will still appear in searches, just saying "No Physical Items"
09:18 xarragon Actually, if you DDG for the problem, the Koha Wiki is one the entries:[…]s::Schema::Loader
09:25 xarragon magnuse: Ah, no. I was completely wrong. It is just that the news retrieval function does a lot of "massaging" of the column data before it returns it.
09:28 magnuse Barbarian: i *think* it should hide the whole record if all items are hidden
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09:44 indradg hola #koha
10:38 magnuse lunch!
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10:41 drojf hi #koha
11:24 indradg hi drojf
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11:48 AmitG bug 13993
11:48 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13993 normal, P5 - low, ---, amitddng135, Passed QA , Transfer order from one vendor to another vendor previous orderstatus is not changed.
11:50 Barbarian I can't figure this out. I think the only reasonable thing to do at this point is file a bug report
11:50 Barbarian I'll start screenshotting and documenting the steps I've made and put it up on your bugzilla.
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12:28 Viktor Same patron having different categories for different branches/libraries. Would that be obviously bad? Because that might be helpful for regions where you cooperate but might have a bit stricter rules for the patron from a neighboring city.
12:28 liw the libraries in Oulu, Finland, have announced they'll be using Koha; this is satisfying to me as an onlooker (currently in Finland, though not in Oulu)
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12:35 mveron Hi #koha
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12:39 nengard hi mveron
12:39 nengard and #koha
12:39 mveron hi nengard :-)
12:39 marcelr hi mveron nengard
12:40 mveron daag, marcelr :-)
12:40 marcelr gruss got ?
12:40 marcelr spelling..
12:40 wahanui spelling is a problem with international versions of English. Is there a particular standard preferred in the default EN installation?
12:40 marcelr yeah
12:41 mveron marcelr: Grüezi (in Switzerland)  :-)  "Grüss Gott" in Germany  :-)
12:41 marcelr Grüezi cool
12:42 mveron marcelr: Or 'Hoi' in Switzerland, if you know somebody. same as in the Netherlands as I remember...
12:42 marcelr true
12:42 marcelr ha he hi hoi but we do not have hu
12:42 mveron @wunder Allschwil
12:42 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 21.0°C (2:30 PM CEST on May 28, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling).
12:43 mveron 'Hü' we use to make a horse move  :-)
12:44 marcelr well you could use that in Koha hahaha
12:44 Barbarian There seems to be more people on right now, so I figure I'll try my luck one last time before filing a bug report: I have an item type of "Textbooks", circulation code "TXB". I go to OpacHiddenItem in advanced settings and add "itype: [TXB]" to it. In OPAC, textbooks still show up in search results, are still accessible, and are still a category in advanced search. Anyone know what I'm missing?
12:45 mveron Then I would say "Hopp" - it's used to cherlead in sports, e.g. "Hopp Koha"
12:46 Barbarian (I've also tried "ccode: [TXB]", "ccode: [Textbook]", and "itype: [Textbook]"
12:46 Barbarian )
12:46 mveron Barbarian: Will try on my VM
12:46 Barbarian mveron: I'm using version 3.20 btw
12:47 mveron Barbarian: I'm on current master,
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12:48 tcohen morning!
12:49 Barbarian Good morning
12:49 mveron hi tcohen :-)
12:49 tcohen hi Barbarian mveron
13:00 marcelr hi tcohen
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13:00 magnuse marcelr++ for digging into bug 6874
13:01 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Attach a file to a MARC record (Was: File upload in MARC)
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13:07 Barbarian mveron: Any luck on hidden items?
13:07 mveron Still digging...
13:09 * mveron Phone call
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13:18 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
13:19 mtompset @seen aleisha
13:19 huginn mtompset: aleisha was last seen in #koha 1 day, 9 hours, 31 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <aleisha> yeah just been doing stuff another branch and messed it up a little bit
13:19 mtompset Wow. Okay. She was not on yesterday then.
13:20 mtompset @later tell aleisha Could you please retest bug 14121 on a Debian Jessie box?
13:20 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
13:20 mveron Barbarian: I managed to hide all Books with
13:20 mveron itype: [BK]
13:20 Barbarian Huh.
13:21 Barbarian Did you have to do anything else beforehand to get it working?
13:21 Barbarian Or after?
13:21 mtompset http://schema.koha-community.o[…]tables/items.html
13:21 mveron But only biblios that have items were hidden. Biblios were not hidden.
13:21 mtompset You can use ANY field listed in the items table schema. :)
13:22 Barbarian mveron: Ah! That might explain it, I'll try adding an item, see if that works
13:23 mveron Barbarian: Yeah, that should work.
13:24 mveron Make sure that you set y - koha item type when adding / editing items
13:25 Barbarian mveron: Hmmm, biblio still shows up in the search, and clicking the item leads to a 404. I remember seeing something about that on bugzilla earlier when I checked, 1 min
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13:28 mtompset Probably one of my bugs. :)
13:29 mtompset Isn't there some $n that blocks biblio level visibility?
13:29 Barbarian Doing a zebra-rebuild fixed it
13:29 Barbarian Hurray!
13:29 mveron Great :-)
13:29 Barbarian I'll shoot an email over to our librarian so he knows to make sure all textbooks have at least one item attached to them
13:29 mtompset I remember drojf did something with that code.
13:29 Barbarian Thanks for the help
13:29 mtompset What is the MARC code I'm trying to remember, drojf?
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13:35 mveron Barbarian: Bug 14007 could be related to your issue
13:35 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14007 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Item Types for items hidden by OpacHiddenItems turn up in facet results
13:37 Barbarian That bug is rather confusingly written
13:37 mveron And Bug 9966 - Maybe this is resolved by re-indexing
13:37 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9966 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Incorrect 404 when a search returns one result hidden by OpacHiddenItems
13:38 Barbarian mveron: Could very well be. Cleared up my related 404 issue.
13:38 mveron Can you comment on the Bug that it is resolved for you?
13:39 Barbarian It isn't *exactly* the same, but sure.
13:41 * magnuse wanders off
13:44 Barbarian mveron: Do you also want me to put up a new low-priority bug about hidden biblios without items attached? It's a fairly rare situation, I would imagine, but still very confusing if you don't get any results on Google.
13:47 mveron Barbarian: I think it's good to have some trace in Bugzilla.
13:47 Barbarian Alrighty, I'll put it up then
13:51 Barbarian Bug 14288 <--- added
13:51 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14288 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Hidden biblios without item attached not hidden
13:59 Barbarian Anyways, it's clock-out time for me. Going home to play games and drink beer. Thanks for the help once again!
14:09 mtompset Barbarian.... there is a MARC code for that.
14:10 mtompset I can't remember the MARC code.
14:14 mtompset 942....
14:16 mtompset 942$n!
14:16 mtompset I found it.
14:17 mtompset Curses. He left already.
14:19 * mveron away meeting
14:19 mveron QUit
14:20 mveron :-)
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15:09 talljoy morning
15:11 tcohen morning talljoy
15:12 reiveune bye
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15:27 tcohen @seen dpavlin
15:27 huginn tcohen: dpavlin was last seen in #koha 11 weeks, 6 days, 0 hours, 10 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <dpavlin> hooray for everybody involved!
15:28 * mtompset smirks.
15:28 mtompset tcohen: He is rarely around.
15:34 tcohen mtompset: thanks
15:36 nengard what table stores the koha to marc mapping info?
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15:47 tcohen marc_subfield_structure
15:53 tcohen nengard: ?
15:53 tcohen it stores the mapping on the default framework
15:54 tcohen kohafield column
16:02 nengard yes - sorry was on the phone
16:02 nengard found it :) thank you!!
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18:18 nengard okay ... I might be done with the 3.20 manual
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19:26 talljoy tcohen i just heard from brendan.  he says that Fernet and Orange Soda do not go well together.  fyi.
19:26 talljoy hahahaha
19:27 talljoy darn missed him
19:35 misilot question what does,  "Populate fields with default values from default framework " do on the batch record and batch item deletion pages?
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19:42 nengard if there is a default value in your framework it will fill that value in in the editor
19:42 nengard no clue on the delete tool ...
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21:22 indradg hi #koha
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22:06 eythian @later tell cdickinson feel free to target Debian instead of Ubuntu if it's easier, I won't mind :D
22:06 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
22:06 eythian also, hi
22:09 rangi morning
22:11 wizzyrea hi
22:14 mtompset Greetings, eythian rangi wizzyrea. :)
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22:36 mtompset aleisha! The person I was hoping to see. :)
22:36 aleisha hi mtompset :)
22:36 mtompset And now that you spoke, you know why. :)
22:38 mtompset Do you have a Debian Jessie box to test it on, aleisha? :)
22:39 aleisha no i don't
22:44 eythian aleisha: if you need servers for things, let me know. We have plenty we can spin up as needed.
22:47 aleisha how can i get a Debian Jessie box?
22:48 eythian aleisha: this is why we have a Cloud :)
22:51 mtompset eythian++ # Thanks for helping get a bug testing Debian Jessie box spun up. :)
22:53 mtompset marcelr++ # for taking on bug 6874
22:53 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Attach a file to a MARC record (Was: File upload in MARC)
22:54 mtompset marcelr++ # for taking on bug 5010. :)
22:54 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5010 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Passed QA , Fix OPACBaseURL to include protocol
22:55 mtompset I'm so much closer to not having to roll custom distributions. :)
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