Time Nick Message 00:01 drojf dcook: a fan letter to? :D 00:02 dcook drojf: Honestly, I don't remember his name anymore. He was a writer. Actually, he may have even been the ghostwriter behind a different name. I'm not sure. 00:03 dcook It may have been Star Wars related though :p 00:10 drojf "The estimated shipping time provided by the shipping company is 15 to 20 days" 00:10 drojf haha. not even close 00:10 drojf more like 80 to 90 :) 00:47 indradg Bug 14284 00:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14284 trivial, P3, ---, indradg, Needs Signoff , Typo in Languages.pm 01:30 indradg eythian: around? 01:30 eythian yarp 01:31 indradg just read your reply to DP Tripathi's single line installer 01:33 indradg he's targetting it at rank newbies with zero linux skills, assumes a fresh desktop install, does not trap responses or errors and just rides off happily into the sunset with looking around or behind 01:33 indradg and you didn't gnash your teeth at disabling default site :D eythian 01:34 eythian because it's doing such a basic installation, if you don't disable the default site, it won't work. It's not doing any virtualhost based separation like is standard. 01:38 drojf great, birds are getting up already 01:38 eythian heh 01:38 eythian that's always a bad sign 01:38 drojf indeed 01:38 drojf good night #koha ;) 02:14 eythian indradg: happy now with my followup? 02:18 indradg eythian: heh... it is just that I've wasted too much time dealing with in-production boxes off Koha LiveDVDs and addressing user issues 02:18 eythian yeah, fair enough 02:19 mtompset eythian++ # YAY! ;) 02:20 eythian I don't really like how it sets it up, and certainly wouldn't recommend how it sets it up. But I could see it being good as a quick way to get someone to the point of doing local experimentation. 02:20 eythian err 02:20 eythian * recommend how it sets it up for production use 02:23 indradg eythian: this morning I had to spend 20 mins on a conf just to get someone not to waste their time trying 3.20 on 12.04... what finally settled it was me pointing to your email in april about dropping support 02:26 eythian ah, fun times 02:26 eythian 12.04 must be nearing EOL 02:27 eythian ah, april 2017 02:27 eythian or, this august if you haven't kept it up to date. 02:28 eythian http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian <-- indradg, I also list the supported releases here 02:29 indradg eythian++ 02:32 mtompset Why 12.04 when 14.04 is out?! 02:33 eythian people do strange things sometimes. 02:33 eythian why do we get questions like "I've just installed 3.06, and..." 02:33 mtompset But it's a whole stinking year later. That makes no sense. 02:33 indradg actually there is very "sound" reason why 12.04 02:34 mtompset What is the "sound" reason? They have the LiveDVD? 02:36 indradg mtompset: most of the LiveDVD ninjas used Remastersys 02:36 indradg the last version on which remastersys worked was 12.04 02:36 indradg and hence the proliferation 02:36 mtompset Oh no, the pirates need to learn new linux commands. ;) 02:37 eythian I once wrote a Linux remastering script. 02:37 indradg i never liked the cruft that remastersys put in 02:37 eythian though, with a specific goal in mind. 02:39 eythian it actually took a .iso that you'd download, mount it, make changes, and rewrite it to a .iso. 02:39 geek_cl eythian, where is that iso file 02:39 eythian geek_cl: what iso file? 02:39 geek_cl that Koha- LiveDVD 02:40 eythian geek_cl: I'm not actually sure. But see above how we were talking about how it can lead to problems? I'd be inclined to avoid it. 02:40 eythian wahanui1: live cd 02:40 wahanui1 eythian: huh? 02:41 eythian wahanui1: why have you changed your name? 02:41 wahanui1 no idea, eythian 02:41 eythian wahanui1: go fix it. 02:41 wahanui1 eythian: sorry... 02:41 eythian better. 02:41 indradg i remember someone once got into an argument with rangi why 3.14 was the best of the best... and nothing else is yet to match up! 02:42 eythian haha 02:42 geek_cl eythian, and what about this: http://kohageek.blogspot.com/2013/11/koha-314-live-dvd-32-released.html and this: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Live_DVD_Blueprint and this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/kohalivedvd/ 02:42 wizzyrea eythian: we could list supported OS's on the website 02:43 indradg wizzyrea: +1 02:43 wizzyrea it's not constantly changing, and would probably be a good thing to do 02:43 eythian wizzyrea: well, I'm thinking mostly about the packages. 02:43 eythian It's possible to get it to run on almost anything with enough time. 02:43 wizzyrea that's what I meant too :P 02:43 eythian geek_cl: what about them? 02:43 geek_cl are good ones? 02:43 wizzyrea http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ < here 02:44 rangi there are no good ones 02:44 rangi the idea is flawed 02:44 geek_cl ok 02:44 eythian geek_cl: I don't have particuarly good opinions on any of them 02:44 * wizzyrea neither 02:44 geek_cl Ok, just reading your comments 02:44 eythian (though the sourceforge one is package-based which is better than they used to be.) 02:45 rangi we do people no favours making it easy for them to install something, with no understanding why/how they installed it, why they should keep it up to date, etc 02:45 geek_cl i agree, 02:45 rangi not for something as important as running a library anyway 02:46 geek_cl thanks for you comments guys, 02:46 geek_cl see you later 02:46 geek_cl bye #koha 02:47 eythian later 02:47 indradg it would be like handing someone who has never seen one, a loaded Glock and not telling them that the glock does not have a traditional safety 02:47 rangi cya geek_cl 02:48 indradg bye geek_cl 02:48 wizzyrea http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ < Eythian 02:49 eythian wizzyrea: is the "not recommended" bit new? It seems a bit much to me, I'd be inclined to just say that packages are preferred where feasible, or something. 02:49 wizzyrea no, it's not new 02:49 wizzyrea it's been that way for quite a while 02:49 eythian OK :) 02:50 * eythian tries to ignore the inconsistent typesetting around there, too. 02:50 * eythian mostly fails :) 02:50 wizzyrea lol 02:50 wizzyrea that little section needs a header of some kind. 02:50 wizzyrea gdi now I have to fix it. 02:56 mtompset eythian: We don't all have a TARDIS. :P 02:57 mtompset (to make Koha work on anything) 03:07 wizzyrea http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ < better at all? 03:07 eythian yea, I think so 03:08 wizzyrea yay! 03:08 * wizzyrea doesn't mind caring for the website, and doesn't mind suggestions 03:10 mtompset wizzyrea: Am I crazy for thinking Debian 8 should be listed before Debian 7? :) 03:11 eythian mtompset: depends on your preference for numerical order or not, I suppose. 03:12 mtompset I was just thinking people read as little as possible. 03:12 mtompset If we put Debian 8 first, that's what they will use. 03:13 mtompset Assuming they are a LtR culture. :) 03:30 eythian https://youtu.be/H0CGBc_PIbI <-- dcook :) 03:31 dcook hehe 03:31 dcook I feel like that sometimes 03:33 AmitG hi all 03:33 mtompset Greetings, AmitG. 03:33 mtompset dcook: Translate? 03:36 eythian yeah, dcook. Translate. 03:40 eythian rats, he seems to have gone 03:43 dcook Lots and lots of swearing 03:44 eythian I think you should do a real translation. 03:44 dcook I don't know if a real translation is possible to be honest 03:44 dcook A literal translation would be essentially nonsense 03:44 eythian heh, probably true 03:44 dcook A more nuanced translation... I don't think we have swears in English for all of those ones :p 03:45 dcook I've seen a good one in graphic form though.. 03:45 dcook Possibly done by Michel Rabagliati 03:58 mtompset Have a great day, #koha dcook eythian AmitG indradg wizzyrea 04:04 mtj has anyone done a nytprof on a koha checkout recently? 04:05 eythian not lately 04:05 mtj ive got a graph here, with a crazy amount of Date::* stuff 04:06 AmitG hya mtj 04:30 mtj hey AmitG, nice to see you :0) 04:32 * dcook wonders how a person thought writing $fld instead of $field was helpful 04:33 dcook Exactly 04:33 dcook It's enough to quit IRC over 04:34 eythian haha 04:38 * dcook needs to brush up on his binary 04:42 eythian 0, 1. 04:42 eythian done. 04:43 dcook :P 04:44 dcook I need to brush up on binary operations and bitwise operators 04:47 dcook Or maybe I just need to learn what the bits in this other system mean :p 04:48 mtj hmm, ive been poking at a koha with slow circ, today... 04:49 mtj turns out that the problem is a large(ish) 'loan period', in smart-rules.pl 04:49 mtj around 300 04:50 mtj ..anyone else bumped into that? 04:50 mtj tested on 3.20 fwiw 04:50 * dcook hasn't used 3.20 yest 04:50 dcook yet* 04:51 dcook How is the problem a large loan period? 04:51 mtj veeeery slow circ reponse 04:51 dcook What I mean is... why does it slow down? 04:52 dcook I would think adding 300 days to a datetime wouldn't be that hard... if that's what it does 04:52 * dcook spent a long time with DateTime yesterday 04:52 mtj nytprof says lots of calls to date::stuff 04:52 eythian dcook: OK, work out what -~x and ~-x do in C/C++, and why, and you'll have it all sorted. 04:52 dcook eythian: I did see a reference to ~$something at one point :S 04:53 eythian dcook: that's not what I said. 04:53 dcook I think I get how they're packing their bits at the moment though 04:53 dcook eythian: I know. I'm just saying I saw the tilde and went "Hmm I should figure out what that means" 04:53 dcook :p 04:53 eythian it's a bitwize complement 04:53 eythian *wise 04:54 * dcook is looking as we breathe 04:54 mtj "I would think adding 300 days to a datetime wouldn't be that hard... if that's what it does" 04:55 mtj dcook: koha seems to be doing DT math on each day in the loan-period 04:56 eythian it's probably accounting for holidays 04:56 eythian perhaps badly 04:56 dcook mtj: Certainly worth investigating more :) 04:56 mtj eythian: yeah, i reckon thats it 04:57 eythian probably needs some optimisation somewhere. 04:57 dcook Atm, I'm more interested in '<<' 04:57 mtj heh, yep... :) 04:58 eythian dcook: that means "a lot less than" 04:58 dcook :P 05:03 dcook Would love if "when" had more documentation too.. 05:04 * dcook assumes when(1) means when($_ == 1)... 05:04 dcook or... when($_ =~ /1/) 05:04 dcook err if for those last two whens.. 05:06 eythian dcook: given...when is currently experimental, iirc 05:07 dcook yeah, you recall correctly 05:07 dcook This isn't for Koha, and there are a lot of experimental features... 05:07 dcook Fun times :) 05:07 eythian also, when(1) != when($_ == 1). 05:07 dcook Yeah, I guess not 05:07 dcook when(1) == when(/1/) ? 05:07 dcook in this case, it's using a for loop rather than given 05:08 eythian no, I don't think so. 05:08 eythian I think that's just like saying "true" 05:08 dcook Well, I'll find out in a minute after doing some tests 05:08 eythian apparently it's complicated 05:08 eythian > Exactly what the EXPR argument to when does is hard to describe precisely, but in general, it tries to guess what you want done. 05:08 eythian how perly 05:08 dcook Considering how many if(1) and if(0) I see in this code.. 05:08 dcook lol 05:08 eythian > It also behaves differently when lexically enclosed by a given block than it does when dynamically enclosed by a foreach loop. The rules are far too difficult to understand to be described here. 05:08 dcook O_O 05:09 eythian http://perldoc.perl.org/perlsyn.html#Experimental-Details-on-given-and-when 05:09 dcook I'm just going to do an experiment and see how it's working in this case 05:09 * dcook will report back 05:09 eythian if you're not back by dawn, we'll call search and rescue. 05:10 dcook Merci 05:10 dcook Hmm when(0) definitely isn't the same as if(0) 05:11 dcook At least not within a for loop 05:12 dcook "If your code still needs to run on older versions, stick to foreach for your topicalizer and you will be less unhappy." 05:15 dcook Hmm but when(0) is definitely not like when(/0/) either 05:15 dcook Maybe when(/^0$/).. 05:17 * magnuse waves 05:17 magnuse when(\o/) 05:17 eythian heh 05:25 dcook hehe 05:25 dcook heya magnuse :) 05:25 dcook Binary << returns the value of its left argument shifted left by the number of bits specified by the right argument. 05:25 dcook :S 05:25 dcook I'm looking at 1 << 1 05:26 dcook which equals 2 05:32 dcook Ah, so it totally works how I thought 05:32 dcook It does exactly what it says 05:33 magnuse kia ora cait 05:34 dcook hey cait :) 05:34 cait morning magnuse 05:34 magnuse any new converts yet? :-) 05:34 cait hi dcook 05:38 magnuse opacheader is the recommended syspref for a logo that should show up on all pages? 05:40 eythian hi cait 05:40 cait magnuse: it's what we use :) 05:40 cait hi eythian 05:40 eythian dcook: yeah, bitwise stuff is pretty sensible when you think about it. 05:41 eythian dcook: find a scientific calculator with binary mode and those operators 05:41 eythian dcook: gnome-calculator has them 05:41 magnuse thanks cait 05:41 dcook Yeah, I just figured that it wouldn't be doing what it was saying, but it totes was 05:42 dcook Of course, I think their code might be doing a few other things that are actually crazy and weird 05:42 dcook But that's always a possibility 05:53 magnuse bonjour p_vdk 05:53 magnuse @wunder boo 05:53 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0°C (7:20 AM CEST on May 28, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). 05:54 * magnuse wants to play with (R)?ex 06:10 dcook @wunder syd 06:10 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 21.0°C (4:00 PM AEST on May 28, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). 06:10 dcook Whaat? IT can't be that warm out.. 06:16 cdickinson @wunder nzwn 06:16 huginn cdickinson: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (6:00 PM NZST on May 28, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). 06:16 dcook Ah wait maybe the other binary stuff isn't mad either 06:17 cdickinson mmmmm, Koha as a Service shows signs of life 06:17 dcook \o/ 06:18 cdickinson Puppet modules aren't helping any though, spent all day trying to wrestle with the Apache Puppet module trying to get it to do what I want x_x 06:19 cdickinson there is a stupid bug in the libapache2-mpm-itk package for ubuntu 14.04 LTS, where it won't configure properly unless the default MPM is not configured 06:19 cdickinson had to make a hack for the Puppet module to do this, and a few other things to get the ITK MPM to install 06:19 cdickinson and configure itself without blowing up 06:22 cdickinson and with that, I am done here at work for the day. Time to go home and relax for a bit 06:32 reiveune hello 06:34 magnuse bonjour reiveune 06:35 reiveune hi magnuse :) 06:36 dcook This is actually quite helpful: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Operators/Bitwise_Operators 06:36 dcook I swear I teach myself about bitwise operators once a year... 06:39 cdickinson I always forget which one preserves sign, logical or bitwise shifts 06:54 marcelr hi #koha 06:59 alex_a bonjour 06:59 wahanui niihau, alex_a 07:20 gaetan_B hello 07:40 magnuse bonjour gaetan_B 07:50 Barbarian Hello ladies and gentlemen! I'm working in a school which has recently switched to Koha, and I'm trying to figure out the best methodology to hide a certain category of books from Opac. Would it be better to make a new library and limit Opac to only the original library, or use the OpacHiddenItems YAML thing? 07:50 Barbarian Essentially, we want to use Koha to track textbooks given to students as well as the contents of the library, but not have the textbooks show up in Opac. 07:51 Viktor Hi #koha! 07:53 magnuse hi Viktor 07:53 Viktor hi magnuse 07:53 magnuse Barbarian: i suspect OpacHiddenItems would be the easiest 07:54 Viktor We have no central script for fecthing cover images and deliver them over ajax right? 07:54 magnuse Viktor: isn't that the thing we sponsored? 07:54 Viktor Don't know exactly how they solved it :) 07:54 magnuse bug 7187 07:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7187 enhancement, P4, ---, kmkale, ASSIGNED , Prioritize cover image sources such as Amazon, Google and add fail over i.e. if first source fails, go to next 07:55 Viktor If it's an actual central API for covers or just stopping the others when one finds something :) 07:55 Viktor Was happy it was going to work and didn't look at the details.. 07:55 magnuse the code should be here: http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/wr222309 07:56 Barbarian magnuse: Thanks. I'll see if I can manage it without asking silly questions using the manual. 07:57 magnuse Viktor: this looks like the front end script: http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=opac/opac-covers.pl;h=1584553325370cd8fe8bb4f96007371e11a40bb0;hb=refs/heads/wr222309 07:58 magnuse with the heavy lifting done by http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=Koha/CoverImages.pm;h=e385244e73434c7aec3a31bd3b7f7e4cb9d6c35d;hb=refs/heads/wr222309 07:59 magnuse there's a lot of talk about caching in there, at least 07:59 Viktor magnuse++ Thanks! Looks promising. 08:01 Viktor Was a bit worried we might have to revisit this, but it looks like they centralized the whole thing :) 08:03 Barbarian magnuse: Ermm, "code: TXB" doesn't seem to be hiding the item. Does "code" have a different name when it comes to the hidden settings? 08:10 Barbarian Based on some stuff I just found via google, just tried "itype: TXB" as well, which also doesn't work. 08:12 magnuse Barbarian: not sure, off the top of my head 08:12 magnuse http://translate.koha-community.org/manual/3.18/en/html-desktop/#OpacHiddenItems 08:13 magnuse i think it has to be "itype: [TXB]" 08:13 magnuse without the quotes 08:13 magnuse but with the um, square parens [] 08:13 Barbarian Sorry, connection dropped for a second. Mind copy/pasting what you just said? 08:14 magnuse <magnuse> http://translate.koha-community.org/manual/3.18/en/html-desktop/#OpacHiddenItems 08:14 magnuse <magnuse> i think it has to be "itype: [TXB]" 08:14 magnuse <magnuse> without the quotes 08:14 magnuse but with the um, square parens [] 08:14 Barbarian Got it. Giving it a try 08:15 Barbarian Nope, still displaying the textbook 08:18 magnuse hm, not sure then 08:18 magnuse did you reindex? 08:20 Barbarian magnuse: Just re-indexed and tried again now, didn't seem to help 08:20 Barbarian (assuming that koha-rebuild-zebra does the re-indexing) 08:26 Barbarian magnuse: Ok, different question then: is there a YAML statement I can make to hide based on location? 08:33 magnuse Barbarian: did you do koha-rebuild-zebra -f? 08:33 magnuse the -f does a full reindex 08:34 magnuse without it you just index what is in the zebraqueue 08:34 Barbarian magnuse: No, I did not. Doing it now. 08:34 magnuse you can add -v to see what is happening in more detail 08:37 Barbarian magnuse: Didn't seem to help, but in the manual, it gives as an example this: "itype: [07, 10]". How would I find that number? 08:39 magnuse as far as i can tell, those numbers are just "strings of numbers" that are used in the exact same way as your string TXB 08:40 Barbarian Ah, ok. 08:59 xarragon When using the DBIx framework and TestBuilder, it seems like timestamps needs some extra care with MySQL. There exists a module named DBIx::Class::Timestamp for this purpose. Anyone got any experience with that? 09:00 xarragon Essentially, the database entry created by TestBuilder has no timestamp value, so tests fail. 09:00 magnuse xarragon: sounds like a bug? 09:03 xarragon magnuse: Experience says that I am using it wrong, rather than it being a bug. I am new to DBIx and the test frameworks. 09:05 xarragon TestBuilder is awesome though. I started to write raw SQL like in the existing NewsChanels.pm, and it got bloated pretty fast. 09:06 * magnuse has not looked at TestBuilder yet 09:17 Barbarian magnuse: Do you think it's possible that OpacHiddenItems is only blocking *physical* books instead of the book as a whole? 09:17 Barbarian So the book will still appear in searches, just saying "No Physical Items" 09:18 xarragon Actually, if you DDG for the problem, the Koha Wiki is one the entries: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DB_schema_bugs#Problems_with_DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader 09:25 xarragon magnuse: Ah, no. I was completely wrong. It is just that the news retrieval function does a lot of "massaging" of the column data before it returns it. 09:28 magnuse Barbarian: i *think* it should hide the whole record if all items are hidden 09:44 indradg hola #koha 10:38 magnuse lunch! 10:41 drojf hi #koha 11:24 indradg hi drojf 11:48 AmitG bug 13993 11:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13993 normal, P5 - low, ---, amitddng135, Passed QA , Transfer order from one vendor to another vendor previous orderstatus is not changed. 11:50 Barbarian I can't figure this out. I think the only reasonable thing to do at this point is file a bug report 11:50 Barbarian I'll start screenshotting and documenting the steps I've made and put it up on your bugzilla. 12:28 Viktor Same patron having different categories for different branches/libraries. Would that be obviously bad? Because that might be helpful for regions where you cooperate but might have a bit stricter rules for the patron from a neighboring city. 12:28 liw the libraries in Oulu, Finland, have announced they'll be using Koha; this is satisfying to me as an onlooker (currently in Finland, though not in Oulu) 12:35 mveron Hi #koha 12:39 nengard hi mveron 12:39 nengard and #koha 12:39 mveron hi nengard :-) 12:39 marcelr hi mveron nengard 12:40 mveron daag, marcelr :-) 12:40 marcelr gruss got ? 12:40 marcelr spelling.. 12:40 wahanui spelling is a problem with international versions of English. Is there a particular standard preferred in the default EN installation? 12:40 marcelr yeah 12:41 mveron marcelr: Grüezi (in Switzerland) :-) "Grüss Gott" in Germany :-) 12:41 marcelr Grüezi cool 12:42 mveron marcelr: Or 'Hoi' in Switzerland, if you know somebody. same as in the Netherlands as I remember... 12:42 marcelr true 12:42 marcelr ha he hi hoi but we do not have hu 12:42 mveron @wunder Allschwil 12:42 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 21.0°C (2:30 PM CEST on May 28, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Falling). 12:43 mveron 'Hü' we use to make a horse move :-) 12:44 marcelr well you could use that in Koha hahaha 12:44 Barbarian There seems to be more people on right now, so I figure I'll try my luck one last time before filing a bug report: I have an item type of "Textbooks", circulation code "TXB". I go to OpacHiddenItem in advanced settings and add "itype: [TXB]" to it. In OPAC, textbooks still show up in search results, are still accessible, and are still a category in advanced search. Anyone know what I'm missing? 12:45 mveron Then I would say "Hopp" - it's used to cherlead in sports, e.g. "Hopp Koha" 12:46 Barbarian (I've also tried "ccode: [TXB]", "ccode: [Textbook]", and "itype: [Textbook]" 12:46 Barbarian ) 12:46 mveron Barbarian: Will try on my VM 12:46 Barbarian mveron: I'm using version 3.20 btw 12:47 mveron Barbarian: I'm on current master, 3.21.00.002 12:48 tcohen morning! 12:49 Barbarian Good morning 12:49 mveron hi tcohen :-) 12:49 tcohen hi Barbarian mveron 13:00 marcelr hi tcohen 13:00 magnuse marcelr++ for digging into bug 6874 13:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Attach a file to a MARC record (Was: File upload in MARC) 13:07 Barbarian mveron: Any luck on hidden items? 13:07 mveron Still digging... 13:09 * mveron Phone call 13:18 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 13:19 mtompset @seen aleisha 13:19 huginn mtompset: aleisha was last seen in #koha 1 day, 9 hours, 31 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <aleisha> yeah just been doing stuff another branch and messed it up a little bit 13:19 mtompset Wow. Okay. She was not on yesterday then. 13:20 mtompset @later tell aleisha Could you please retest bug 14121 on a Debian Jessie box? 13:20 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 13:20 mveron Barbarian: I managed to hide all Books with 13:20 mveron itype: [BK] 13:20 Barbarian Huh. 13:21 Barbarian Did you have to do anything else beforehand to get it working? 13:21 Barbarian Or after? 13:21 mtompset http://schema.koha-community.org/tables/items.html 13:21 mveron But only biblios that have items were hidden. Biblios were not hidden. 13:21 mtompset You can use ANY field listed in the items table schema. :) 13:22 Barbarian mveron: Ah! That might explain it, I'll try adding an item, see if that works 13:23 mveron Barbarian: Yeah, that should work. 13:24 mveron Make sure that you set y - koha item type when adding / editing items 13:25 Barbarian mveron: Hmmm, biblio still shows up in the search, and clicking the item leads to a 404. I remember seeing something about that on bugzilla earlier when I checked, 1 min 13:28 mtompset Probably one of my bugs. :) 13:29 mtompset Isn't there some $n that blocks biblio level visibility? 13:29 Barbarian Doing a zebra-rebuild fixed it 13:29 Barbarian Hurray! 13:29 mveron Great :-) 13:29 Barbarian I'll shoot an email over to our librarian so he knows to make sure all textbooks have at least one item attached to them 13:29 mtompset I remember drojf did something with that code. 13:29 Barbarian Thanks for the help 13:29 mtompset What is the MARC code I'm trying to remember, drojf? 13:35 mveron Barbarian: Bug 14007 could be related to your issue 13:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14007 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Item Types for items hidden by OpacHiddenItems turn up in facet results 13:37 Barbarian That bug is rather confusingly written 13:37 mveron And Bug 9966 - Maybe this is resolved by re-indexing 13:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9966 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Incorrect 404 when a search returns one result hidden by OpacHiddenItems 13:38 Barbarian mveron: Could very well be. Cleared up my related 404 issue. 13:38 mveron Can you comment on the Bug that it is resolved for you? 13:39 Barbarian It isn't *exactly* the same, but sure. 13:41 * magnuse wanders off 13:44 Barbarian mveron: Do you also want me to put up a new low-priority bug about hidden biblios without items attached? It's a fairly rare situation, I would imagine, but still very confusing if you don't get any results on Google. 13:47 mveron Barbarian: I think it's good to have some trace in Bugzilla. 13:47 Barbarian Alrighty, I'll put it up then 13:51 Barbarian Bug 14288 <--- added 13:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14288 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Hidden biblios without item attached not hidden 13:59 Barbarian Anyways, it's clock-out time for me. Going home to play games and drink beer. Thanks for the help once again! 14:09 mtompset Barbarian.... there is a MARC code for that. 14:10 mtompset I can't remember the MARC code. 14:14 mtompset 942.... 14:16 mtompset 942$n! 14:16 mtompset I found it. 14:17 mtompset Curses. He left already. 14:19 * mveron away meeting 14:19 mveron QUit 14:20 mveron :-) 15:09 talljoy morning 15:11 tcohen morning talljoy 15:12 reiveune bye 15:27 tcohen @seen dpavlin 15:27 huginn tcohen: dpavlin was last seen in #koha 11 weeks, 6 days, 0 hours, 10 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <dpavlin> hooray for everybody involved! 15:28 * mtompset smirks. 15:28 mtompset tcohen: He is rarely around. 15:34 tcohen mtompset: thanks 15:36 nengard what table stores the koha to marc mapping info? 15:47 tcohen marc_subfield_structure 15:53 tcohen nengard: ? 15:53 tcohen it stores the mapping on the default framework 15:54 tcohen kohafield column 16:02 nengard yes - sorry was on the phone 16:02 nengard found it :) thank you!! 18:18 nengard okay ... I might be done with the 3.20 manual 19:26 talljoy tcohen i just heard from brendan. he says that Fernet and Orange Soda do not go well together. fyi. 19:26 talljoy hahahaha 19:27 talljoy darn missed him 19:35 misilot question what does, "Populate fields with default values from default framework " do on the batch record and batch item deletion pages? 19:42 nengard if there is a default value in your framework it will fill that value in in the editor 19:42 nengard no clue on the delete tool ... 21:22 indradg hi #koha 22:06 eythian @later tell cdickinson feel free to target Debian instead of Ubuntu if it's easier, I won't mind :D 22:06 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded. 22:06 eythian also, hi 22:09 rangi morning 22:11 wizzyrea hi 22:14 mtompset Greetings, eythian rangi wizzyrea. :) 22:36 mtompset aleisha! The person I was hoping to see. :) 22:36 aleisha hi mtompset :) 22:36 mtompset And now that you spoke, you know why. :) 22:38 mtompset Do you have a Debian Jessie box to test it on, aleisha? :) 22:39 aleisha no i don't 22:44 eythian aleisha: if you need servers for things, let me know. We have plenty we can spin up as needed. 22:47 aleisha how can i get a Debian Jessie box? 22:48 eythian aleisha: this is why we have a Cloud :) 22:51 mtompset eythian++ # Thanks for helping get a bug testing Debian Jessie box spun up. :) 22:53 mtompset marcelr++ # for taking on bug 6874 22:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Attach a file to a MARC record (Was: File upload in MARC) 22:54 mtompset marcelr++ # for taking on bug 5010. :) 22:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5010 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Passed QA , Fix OPACBaseURL to include protocol 22:55 mtompset I'm so much closer to not having to roll custom distributions. :)