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| 01:45 |
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mtj_ |
hey #koha, do people prefer the raw or telnet transport flavour, for 3M self-checks? |
| 01:45 |
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rangi |
neither |
| 01:46 |
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rangi |
but the 3m machines seem to crash less with raw |
| 01:47 |
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mtj_ |
a perfect response rangi :) |
| 01:49 |
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mtj_ |
https://www.facebook.com/Sweet[…]143720332/?type=1 |
| 01:49 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 01:49 |
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mtj_ |
i love the mahara cupcakes :0) |
| 01:50 |
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rangi |
you saw the koha ones eh? |
| 01:50 |
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mtj_ |
hmm, perhaps...no?! |
| 01:50 |
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rangi |
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[…]WBX-ayNnFS-qx8CKa |
| 01:52 |
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BobB |
cool, rangi |
| 01:52 |
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BobB |
Kristina +1 |
| 01:53 |
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mtj_ |
truuley awesome |
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dcook |
hehe |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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* eythian |
remembers that if you don't update the changelog, you don't get the right package out the end. |
| 04:07 |
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eythian |
after getting the wrong versioned package |
| 04:25 |
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mtompset |
doh! :) |
| 04:35 |
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mtompset |
eythian: Want to see something ugly? Read C4::Input and look for C4::Context->prepare |
| 04:35 |
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mtompset |
found that while looking at bug 9006 |
| 04:35 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9006 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Patch doesn't apply , autoload in C4::Context is a bad idea |
| 04:37 |
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* eythian |
wonders what 'infl' is supposed to stand for |
| 04:37 |
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| 04:39 |
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eythian |
but yeah, that's some weird code there. It shouldn't have to check the database for existance, that's not the role of a function called that. |
| 04:40 |
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mtompset |
input field? :) |
| 04:42 |
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eythian |
I suppose it could be. |
| 04:42 |
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mtompset |
Anyways, I should sleep. I was rather pleased coming up with a shorter/cleaner way of doing the same thing Joubu did to confirm that intranetdir was the only autoload. |
| 04:42 |
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eythian |
cool |
| 04:43 |
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mtompset |
Have a great day, #koha eythian :) |
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| 05:22 |
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* Oak |
waves |
| 05:23 |
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* cait |
waves |
| 05:23 |
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Oak |
hey cait. breakfast done? |
| 05:23 |
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cait |
not yet |
| 05:23 |
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Oak |
hmm |
| 05:23 |
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Oak |
what are you doing now? |
| 05:24 |
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cait |
waking up mostly :) |
| 05:24 |
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cait |
bbiab |
| 05:24 |
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Oak |
:) |
| 05:25 |
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eythian |
hi cait, hi Oak |
| 05:26 |
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Oak |
hello Mr. Robin! |
| 05:26 |
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eythian |
@wunder nzwn |
| 05:26 |
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huginn` |
eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (5:00 PM NZST on May 04, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Falling). |
| 05:27 |
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eythian |
hmm, needs the probability of earthquakes in there too I reckon. |
| 05:27 |
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Oak |
and sea levels too, perhaps. |
| 05:30 |
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Oak |
what do i need to read/study/explore to be able to update that wiki page properly? : https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pip[…]5-May/042654.html |
| 05:30 |
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Oak |
I'll read and learn, just need to be pointed in the right direction. |
| 05:31 |
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eythian |
hmm. Some of the files in the etc directory. I'd grab a keyword out of there like 'Related-periodical' and see which files it shows up in. |
| 05:31 |
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eythian |
I want to say it's something like ccl.properties, but I might be wrong there. |
| 05:31 |
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eythian |
dcook is the expert here ;) |
| 05:31 |
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Oak |
hmm. cool. |
| 05:32 |
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Oak |
i'll ask him when he |
| 05:32 |
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cait |
Oak: maybe look at how to add a new index |
| 05:32 |
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Oak |
's around. |
| 05:32 |
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cait |
there are pages for that |
| 05:32 |
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eythian |
if you find the file, it should become fairly obvious |
| 05:32 |
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Oak |
hmm. okay cait. i'll check that out. |
| 05:32 |
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cait |
because some of the index have multiple names - a short form and a long one - you will need to look at 3 files |
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| 05:32 |
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Oak |
i see. cool. |
| 05:33 |
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cait |
hm maybe 2 is enough |
| 05:33 |
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Oak |
i think this will help as well: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ng_Zebra_indexing |
| 05:33 |
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Oak |
it mentions ccl.properties just like eythian said. |
| 05:33 |
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Oak |
cool. |
| 05:33 |
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cait |
yes, but don't look at record.abs |
| 05:34 |
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Oak |
okay. |
| 05:34 |
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cait |
it's used for grs1 indexing and we have deprecated that |
| 05:34 |
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Oak |
cool. got it. |
| 05:35 |
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cait |
you propbably want this one |
| 05:35 |
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cait |
/etc/koha/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml |
| 05:36 |
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| 05:36 |
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Oak |
ooh yes cait. just opened that file. this looks like it. |
| 05:36 |
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Oak |
thank you! |
| 05:37 |
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dcook |
Who, wha? |
| 05:37 |
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dcook |
Quiet all day then heaps of text :p |
| 05:37 |
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eythian |
what'd be awesome is having a table that the files are generated from that also generates the documentation. |
| 05:37 |
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Oak |
hello dcook, the expert dude. |
| 05:38 |
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dcook |
What's the question? |
| 05:38 |
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wahanui |
the question is "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?" |
| 05:38 |
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* dcook |
thinks wahanui is a jerk |
| 05:40 |
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Oak |
we should replace him with a cyborg. girl. |
| 05:40 |
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eythian |
wahanui: boten anna |
| 05:40 |
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wahanui |
http://youtu.be/E7iU0GGVco8 |
| 05:46 |
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Oak |
:) dcook question was how i update this wiki page http://manual.koha-community.o[…]earchindexes.html properly... where to learn about all the indexed fields. and Mr. Robin and Katrin were helping me with that. |
| 05:47 |
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dcook |
Oh my... |
| 05:47 |
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Oak |
Katrin said to look here /etc/koha/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml and Mr. Robin said about ccl.properties and some files in /etc/ directory |
| 05:47 |
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* dcook |
ponders |
| 05:47 |
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dcook |
ccl.properties will probably be your best bet |
| 05:48 |
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Oak |
cool :) |
| 05:48 |
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dcook |
Oh... but yeah you'll need to look at /etc/koha/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml too |
| 05:48 |
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dcook |
Actually, I'll just look and tell you rather than guessing myself |
| 05:48 |
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Oak |
:) got it. |
| 05:49 |
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dcook |
"biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml" will tell you which MARC fields/subfields are mapped to what indexes, which appears to mainly be what you want |
| 05:49 |
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dcook |
But ccl.properties includes aliases for those indexes, which you'll want to include as well |
| 05:50 |
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dcook |
bib1.att will show you how the bib1 attributes are mapped to the indexes. |
| 05:51 |
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Oak |
*now* i get the significance of your earlier "oh my" :) |
| 05:51 |
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Oak |
dcook++ |
| 05:51 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 05:51 |
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dcook |
If I recall correctly, Koha sends CCL queries to Zebra |
| 05:52 |
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dcook |
Well, it uses a ZOOM perl function to translate CCL to PQF for Zebra |
| 05:52 |
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dcook |
The bib1 attributes are part of PQF |
| 05:53 |
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* eythian |
& |
| 05:53 |
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dcook |
So in ccl.properties you might see something like: |
| 05:53 |
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dcook |
"Title-uniform 1=Title-uniform" |
| 05:53 |
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dcook |
later eythian |
| 05:53 |
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dcook |
"Title-uniform 1=Title-uniform" means... |
| 05:53 |
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Oak |
hmm |
| 05:54 |
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dcook |
<Alias> 1=<english index name mapped to bib1 attribute in bib1.att> |
| 05:54 |
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dcook |
Sorry, that's probably overwhelming |
| 05:54 |
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dcook |
I'd look at "biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml" |
| 05:55 |
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dcook |
Then "ccl.properties" |
| 05:55 |
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dcook |
Here's another example |
| 05:55 |
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dcook |
From "biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml": |
| 05:55 |
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dcook |
<index_leader xmlns="http://www.koha-community.org/schemas/index-defs" offset="6" length="1"> |
| 05:55 |
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dcook |
<target_index>rtype:w</target_index> |
| 05:55 |
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dcook |
</index_leader> |
| 05:55 |
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Oak |
nah. it's cool. i did not want to interrupt. :) |
| 05:55 |
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cait |
someon opposed to deleting this file? http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e3214decd73356823 |
| 05:55 |
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dcook |
So that means it's the 6th character in the leader with a length of 1 |
| 05:55 |
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dcook |
It's indexed in "rtype" |
| 05:56 |
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dcook |
So on http://manual.koha-community.o[…]earchindexes.html, you might type "leader06" "rtype" |
| 05:56 |
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dcook |
However, if you look in ccl.properties... |
| 05:56 |
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dcook |
You'll see the following: |
| 05:56 |
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dcook |
rtype 1=1001 |
| 05:56 |
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dcook |
Record-type rtype |
| 05:56 |
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dcook |
mc-rtype rtype |
| 05:56 |
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dcook |
mus rtype |
| 05:56 |
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dcook |
So really that should be... |
| 05:57 |
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dcook |
"leader06" "rtype, Record-type, mc-rtype, mus" |
| 05:57 |
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dcook |
(bib1.att comes into play if you want to double-check that 1001 does in fact map to the "rtype" mentioned in "biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml") |
| 05:58 |
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Oak |
got it. |
| 05:58 |
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dcook |
\o/ |
| 05:58 |
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Oak |
dcook++ |
| 05:58 |
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dcook |
:) |
| 05:58 |
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Oak |
\o/ this helps a lot, thank you! |
| 05:58 |
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dcook |
If you ever want to read Zebra docs, you can also look here: "biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml |
| 05:59 |
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dcook |
Ack |
| 05:59 |
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dcook |
http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/ |
| 05:59 |
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cait |
we should probably clean the wiki up a bit at some point |
| 05:59 |
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Oak |
cool. got it. |
| 06:00 |
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dcook |
I think I wrote a little blog post about it a while ago... but it's possibly wrong and definitely out of date: https://tech4lib.wordpress.com[…]tes-ccl-and-more/ |
| 06:00 |
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dcook |
I mostly just use that as a little online notepad for myself.. |
| 06:01 |
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dcook |
This can also be useful for understanding ccl.properties: http://www.indexdata.com/yaz/doc/tools.html#CCL |
| 06:01 |
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* Oak |
copy pasting things dcook said in a text editor |
| 06:01 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 06:01 |
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Oak |
:) |
| 06:01 |
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dcook |
I keep meaning to do a comprehensive but clear explanation in the wiki one day |
| 06:01 |
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dcook |
Too many things to do |
| 06:01 |
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dcook |
For instance, I really should pop around to the post office |
| 06:01 |
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dcook |
Ciao for now! |
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Oak |
thanks dcook! see you later. |
| 06:03 |
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* Oak |
wonders what was the last time he went to a post office.... |
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reiveune |
hello |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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cait |
bbiab |
| 06:55 |
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magnuse |
bgkriegel++ for bug 7939! |
| 06:55 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7939 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Separate po files for different MARC dialects |
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* magnuse |
waves again |
| 06:59 |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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| 07:03 |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
| 07:03 |
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huginn` |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on May 04, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:04 |
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magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
| 07:04 |
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huginn` |
magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 19.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on May 04, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:04 |
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magnuse |
:-O |
| 07:04 |
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dcook |
@wunder syd |
| 07:04 |
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huginn` |
dcook: The current temperature in Bardwell Park, Sydney, New South Wales is 19.9°C (5:04 PM AEST on May 04, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising). |
| 07:04 |
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* dcook |
waves also |
| 07:04 |
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dcook |
81%... no wonder my house is still wet from the storm.. |
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magnuse |
ooh, happy star wars day, #koha! |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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cait |
morning #kha |
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cait |
morning #koha |
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magnuse |
Oak |
| 07:31 |
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Oak |
magnuse |
| 07:32 |
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Oak |
got a light? |
| 07:33 |
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magnuse |
at least the sun is shining |
| 07:33 |
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kivilahtio |
Does anybody know if someone has already developed a simple Item editing view with limited permissions. |
| 07:33 |
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cait |
yes |
| 07:33 |
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kivilahtio |
We need an interface to rebarcode very quickly a lot of Items, and do some simple operations such as change the collection code and shelving location and notforloan-status |
| 07:33 |
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Oak |
tch tch. ruined it. i meant like a lighter or match to light a cigarette. |
| 07:34 |
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cait |
kivilahtio: you can create a new account for that and use the restricted item edit permission |
| 07:34 |
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kivilahtio |
without giving staff the cataloguing-Zedit_items-permission |
| 07:34 |
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kivilahtio |
cait: in which version is that? |
| 07:34 |
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cait |
i think 3.18 |
| 07:34 |
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kivilahtio |
cait: any idea how to find it from bugzilla? |
| 07:34 |
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cait |
it's a permission + syspref with the fields you are allowed to edit |
| 07:35 |
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kivilahtio |
but it still lodas the horrendously slow catloguin/edit-interface? |
| 07:35 |
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cait |
well... yes |
| 07:35 |
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kivilahtio |
ok :) |
| 07:35 |
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kivilahtio |
I'll cook another interface then. |
| 07:35 |
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kivilahtio |
cait: thanks for the tip! |
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cait |
bug 7673 i think |
| 07:36 |
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kivilahtio |
the problem is not the interface but the horrible load times on it, it is just silly |
| 07:36 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7673 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , New patron permissions to manage items (edit, batchmod, delete all) |
| 07:36 |
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cait |
makes sense, you could do a plugin |
| 07:36 |
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kivilahtio |
hmm |
| 07:36 |
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kivilahtio |
cait: plugin you say? |
| 07:37 |
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kivilahtio |
I am not familiar with the plugin system |
| 07:37 |
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cait |
just thinking that could be a use case for one |
| 07:37 |
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cait |
and will make it easier for ou to maintain |
| 07:37 |
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cait |
maybe |
| 07:37 |
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kivilahtio |
cait: thanks, ill try reading the documentation |
| 07:37 |
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cait |
i think there is a new page on the wiki |
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cait |
http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_plugins |
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drojf |
morning #koha |
| 07:59 |
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magnuse |
Oak: sorry about that. yes, i do have some matches on top of the spice cupboard on the ground floor |
| 08:05 |
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magnuse |
the wiki should have a "how to write a koha plugin" page... |
| 08:07 |
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drojf |
magnuse: you got the job :) |
| 08:08 |
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magnuse |
drojf: thanks |
| 08:08 |
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magnuse |
;-) |
| 08:08 |
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magnuse |
then i just need to figure out how to write them |
| 08:08 |
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magnuse |
well, i should do that anyway, but no time this side of summer, probably |
| 08:08 |
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cait |
i think there was some documentation somewhere... maybe in the bug report - or it's 'in the kitchen sink' plugin |
| 08:14 |
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magnuse |
yeah, i have a hunch there was something somewhere, but i can't really recall |
| 08:14 |
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magnuse |
i think the kitchen sink plugin was meant to demonstrate everything a plugin could do |
| 08:15 |
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cait |
@later tell khall - we are looking for documentation on how to write plugins - can yu help us out? :) |
| 08:15 |
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huginn` |
cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 08:16 |
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Oak |
:) |
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magnuse |
ooh, http://bywatersolutions.com/koha-plugins/ lists a cover flow plugin! |
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magnuse |
http://bywatersolutions.com/20[…]coverflow-plugin/ - how did i miss that? |
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mveron |
Hi #koha |
| 08:28 |
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magnuse |
hiya mveron |
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mveron |
hiya magnuse |
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mveron |
...and everybody :-) |
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magnuse |
tjänare Viktor |
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Viktor |
Hej Magnuse! |
| 09:09 |
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Viktor |
Möte just nu med xarragon :) |
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* cait |
waves |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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mveron |
Hi cait :-) Bug 14128 |
| 09:37 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14128 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Capitalization: Guided Reports - step 2 - Build A Report |
| 09:39 |
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magnuse |
mveron++ |
| 10:03 |
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cait |
i saw :) |
| 10:03 |
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cait |
you beat me to it ;) |
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mveron |
You can QA it then... :-) |
| 10:09 |
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cait |
true .) |
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* mveron |
would like to see Bug 13813 moving on, it's signed-off. It is a first step to finally resolve Bug 12072 |
| 10:15 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13813 normal, P3, ---, veron, Signed Off , Remove deprecated module C4::Dates from system |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12072 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, ASSIGNED , New dateformat dd.mm.yyyy |
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cait |
mveron: i am only lookign at bugs for now - i think that bigger change is not for 3.20 |
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cait |
better to have it early in 3.22 maybe |
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is back from lunch... |
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mveron |
cait: That's OK, I just wanted to be sur that it moves on... |
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tcohen |
morning! |
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tcohen |
hi cait |
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cait |
hi tcohen :) |
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cait |
mveron: i am interested in seeing it moving too :) |
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mveron |
European woes... |
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tcohen |
@seen ashimema |
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tcohen: ashimema was last seen in #koha 3 days, 6 hours, 45 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <ashimema> HBC? |
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tcohen |
@seen akafred |
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tcohen: akafred was last seen in #koha 3 weeks, 4 days, 16 hours, 30 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <akafred> #vote yes |
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@seen dcook |
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barton: dcook was last seen in #koha 5 hours, 52 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <dcook> 81%... no wonder my house is still wet from the storm.. |
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drojf |
i just did a fresh installation of koha-common 3.18.06.3 and some of the sample data is missing. no news, no libraries, no patrons, no holidays… |
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cait |
drojf: weird |
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cait |
the german or the english ones? |
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drojf |
english |
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cait |
missing from the installer list of options? |
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drojf |
yes |
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drojf |
and missing afterwards in the instance too, of course |
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cait |
hm weird |
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cait |
the files are there? |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14011: Make the jQuery selector explicit <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ed50257e4b9644e57> / Bug 14011: Triggering slip print with enter key collides with 'barcode submitted' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9751a043666897a95> / Bug 13810: DBRev 3.19.00.037 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]eb/?p=koha.git;a= |
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drojf |
cait: you mean the sql files? i think they are there. like /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/en/optional/sample_libraries.sql |
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cait |
and the .txt file too? |
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drojf |
yes |
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cait |
ugh no idea then :( |
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tcohen |
hi drojf |
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drojf |
hi tcohen |
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drojf |
after removing the instance, when i try to create another one, i get "Koha requires mpm_itk to be enabled within Apache in order to run. Typically this can be enabled with: sudo a2enmod mpm_itk". nothing like that when i first created an instance |
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* Oak |
waes |
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Oak |
right |
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drojf |
apparently koha-remove did not remove the symlink in apache2/sites-enabled |
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drojf |
ok what i think has happened is: i logged into the staff client for web installation, accidentally rejected the cookie and after choosing the installation language, had to log in again. i accepted the cookie but somehow this screwed up the web installer. |
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drojf |
it is all there now |
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Mex |
Hello |
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wahanui |
hi, Mex |
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Mex |
hello wahanui |
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Mex |
excuse me, I have a problem with my Koha system |
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wahanui |
Mex: We need a licensed electrician to replace the light bulbs in the computer room. |
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Mex |
: O |
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cait |
Mex: wahanui is a bot - don't let him scare you away |
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cait |
he reacts to certain keywords |
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cait |
wahanui botsnack cookie |
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wahanui |
thanks cait :) |
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Mex |
ok |
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cait |
i have to go - but someone else might be able to help you |
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Mex |
someone can help me with a problem indexing my Koha |
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cait |
just ask your question, if someone has an idea they usually speak up |
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Mex |
indexing problem |
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reiveune |
bye |
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Mex |
Hello |
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Oak |
hello Mex. what version Koha and and on What flavor of Linux have you installed? |
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Mex |
ok |
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Mex |
centos 6.6 system koha version 3.16 |
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gaetan_B |
bye! |
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magnuse |
hei eskaaren |
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eskaaren |
hei magnuse |
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magnuse |
it's nice how many people there are here from the nordic countries now :-) |
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magnuse |
hm, did someone suggest a feature that would make it possible to always see who was the last person to borrow a book? |
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cait |
yes |
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cait |
magnuse: there isa bug for that from kyle |
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cait |
bug 9011 |
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wahanui |
i guess bug 9011 is quite large too |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9011 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add the ability to store the last patron to return an item |
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* cait |
pretends it's friday and is making pizza today |
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magnuse |
thanks cait, i found it too :-) |
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magnuse |
woohoo for pizza! |
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cait |
:) |
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eskaaren |
about the perl modules listed under "about koha -> perl modules" |
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eskaaren |
Graphics::Magick seems like it is missing on cpan? |
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eskaaren |
Im installing on SLackware and have it working, but that module is not installed.. |
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mtompset |
mveron: *ping* |
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mveron |
pong |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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mtompset |
So, shall you or I take 14138? |
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mveron |
i mtompset :-) |
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mtompset |
Do you have something ready? :) |
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mveron |
I'm doing some research on it. I think the best way is to have some pre-tests on create-pdf.pl and generate a error mesage instead of a pdf file. |
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mveron |
While looking at the code I saw that there are problems with e.g. Layout.pm, it returns not undef when the Id is not found. |
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mtompset |
Sorry for finding ugliness. :) |
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mveron |
So before doing 14138 I'd like to fix this first, otherwise the pre-tests are not easy to do |
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mveron |
I propose that I do some more research and then comment on the Bug 14138 |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14138 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Patroncard: Prevent errors if create-pdf.pl gets wrong parameters |
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mveron |
Hmm, there is a problem with Pofile.pm as well, I deleted all profiles from the datebase and now get crashes when I invoke Manage profiles. |
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mtompset |
At least you're thorough in your testing. :) |
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mtompset |
mveron++ # for your thoroughness. :) |
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mveron |
:-) |
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New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10388: Does not display 'null' after editing an item on receiving <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7b7c93f02fbcfe2f7> / Bug 12412: Add ability for plugins to convert arbitrary files to MARC from record... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4461ba66a1ca74f3e> / Bug 13421: DBRev 3.19.00.038 <http://git.koha-communi |
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tcohen |
bye #koha |
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cait |
bye tcohen :) |
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* chris_n |
notes we've added a new dep PDF::FromHTML |
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cait |
yes we did |
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cait |
it will be packaged - but isn't yet |
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chris_n |
the web upgrade needs to run the dep checker |
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chris_n |
its probably ok if one is running packages |
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cait |
hm yeah |
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chris_n |
but not if one is running git |
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cait |
could be a nice enh |
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chris_n |
I can't see what added it |
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cait |
also for the remaining tarball users |
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chris_n |
do you know offhand? |
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cait |
discharge |
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chris_n |
there is a mess of different pdf modules |
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misilot |
does anyone use any Z39.50 sources for finding things like calculators, google cardboard, laptops, laptop chargers, HDMI cables, etc? (And will to share? ) |
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cait |
we have libraries circulating things like that - but they create the records themselves |
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cait |
I can't really imagine a remote one for those things really |
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misilot |
cait: thanks :) figured it was a longshot, but the worst I can be told usually is no :) |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
eythian: ping me when you are around please? |
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rangi |
morning |
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cait |
morning rangi |
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wizzyrea |
I'm curious why we need all the different pdf modules |
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mveron |
Ha, Bug 14143 took me hours... For one Line... |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14143 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Patron cards: Crash (confusion between table names creator_templates and club_template_enrollment_fields |
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cait |
wow |
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cait |
wonder when that crept in |
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wizzyrea |
mveron: you know what they say, the last thing you try is always the thing that fixes it. |
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cait |
mveron: hm i wonder |
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cait |
is itpossible you only got this table becuase of testing kyle'sfeature? |
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cait |
i think it's not in koha yet |
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cait |
the book club feature |
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mveron |
cait: That's possible... |
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mveron |
It was / is waiting until new tables with _template in their names show up. |
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cait |
yeah |
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mveron |
wizzyrea: ...and then they ask you what you did the whole day... |
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wizzyrea |
I think there is one single thing that annoys me most about bug fixing work - and that is that there is an expectation that you actually know what you're looking for at all times. |
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wizzyrea |
otherwise, I really like tracking down problems |
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wizzyrea |
(and the resultant expectation that you can find and fix any bug quickly) |
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mveron |
Yeah, it is kind of sudoku... |
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* mveron |
says good night / daytime to everybody... |
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mveron |
quit |
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eythian |
hi |
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wahanui |
hola, eythian |
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eythian |
today's fact: monorails were originally horse-drawn. |
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* wizzyrea |
grumbles that the list view doesn't count the 008 in the copyright date sort. 260 only. |
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cait |
ew |
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eythian |
mtj_: are you going to pull the jessie support patches into 3.16? |
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dcook |
wizzyrea: But the 008 isn't a copyright date O_o |
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dcook |
Actually, maybe in one case it might be |
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wizzyrea |
the sorts for publication/copyright/date |
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wizzyrea |
are all. kinds. of. messed. up. |
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wizzyrea |
because marc is dumb. |
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dcook |
Well, it was also implemented pretty strangely in Koha :S |
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dcook |
But I agree that MARC is dumb |
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wizzyrea |
and because every field but the 008 is freetext. |
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dcook |
Nah, there's also the 000, 006, 007 |
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dcook |
:p |
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rangi |
for dates? |
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rangi |
not really |
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eythian |
wahanui: be hal |
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wahanui |
eythian: huh? |
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dcook |
Ah, I meant fixed length |
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eythian |
wahanui: be hal is <reply>The 9000 series is the most reliable computer ever made. No 9000 computer has ever made a mistake or distorted information. We are all, by any practical definition of the words, foolproof and incapable of error. |
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wahanui |
OK, eythian. |
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dcook |
But yeah the dates are weird |
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eythian |
wahanui: be hal |
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wahanui |
The 9000 series is the most reliable computer ever made. No 9000 computer has ever made a mistake or distorted information. We are all, by any practical definition of the words, foolproof and incapable of error. |
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rangi |
you can only reliably sort on 008 for date |
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dcook |
I think MARC21 defaults to putting the publication date in the copyrightdate |
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wizzyrea |
^^^^^^^^^^ |
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rangi |
because like wizzyrea said the rest are full of shit |
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dcook |
Yeah, because 260 is as transcribed |
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rangi |
like c 1990 |
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rangi |
198? |
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rangi |
1985- |
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rangi |
and other crap |
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dcook |
Actually, the 008 can have crap too |
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dcook |
That could be 198u |
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dcook |
:( |
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dcook |
http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd008a.html |
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dcook |
Or 1u80 |
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* dcook |
shudders |
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wizzyrea |
anyway, it's bad, annoying, very not good. |
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rangi |
yep |
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* dcook |
concurs |
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rangi |
and with all the RDA work |
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wizzyrea |
*sobs* |
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rangi |
they just made it worse |
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* dcook |
double concurs |
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rangi |
bibframe will probably end up using emoji for dates |
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dcook |
hehe |
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dcook |
Wait, I'm not sure whether I should laugh or cry... |
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wizzyrea |
http://s374.photobucket.com/us[…]ingDrWho.gif.html |
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wizzyrea |
^ MRW people tell me about date sorting |
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dcook |
hehe |
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dcook |
That's my reaction in regards to all things search |
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dcook |
Especially use of double quotations marks in search queries |
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* dcook |
is going to go have a quick little win to distract himself from the big things |
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* wizzyrea |
needs one of those. |
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dcook |
Local bug tracker? |
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dcook |
Hmm... |
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dcook |
I don't suppose anyone knows if turning off "noItemTypeImages" breaks the edit item types html page? |
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dcook |
Looking at 3.14.5 and it's a bit of a hot mess |
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dcook |
Will have to try to remember to look at master after I fix the bug at hand.. |
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wizzyrea |
I do not know. |
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dcook |
In that case, I'll look later :) |
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dcook |
I'm sure it must be rare for folks to turn off item type images.. |
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wizzyrea |
maybe? |
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wahanui |
well, maybe is a momentaneous error |
