IRC log for #koha, 2015-04-16

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02:16 mtompset Does anyone have a nice "I'm a student, I swipe my card to enter library" script?
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02:19 wnickc anyone know if is attached to anything?  looking at bug 10285
02:19 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10285 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Error 500 in staff client displays old start page
02:26 mtompset just a second, wnickc. Let me check with a git grep.
02:27 mtompset git grep 405.t | grep -v "\.po:"
02:27 mtompset no results.
02:28 mtompset Are you sure you didn't mean 404?
02:28 wnickc hah
02:29 wnickc thanks mtompset
02:36 mtompset commented on 10285. :)
02:41 irma Hi rangi, eythian ... Very upsetting lunchtime reading[…]objectid=11432690
02:41 eythian ah yeah
02:41 eythian that's popped up in the news every few months lately.
02:42 eythian a very silly decision by fairfax in hindsight.
02:42 irma I wonder how this will end ...
02:43 irma "The ministry says it is "in regular communications with Fairfax" and that "we expect Fairfax New Zealand to take all steps to resolve this matter in a way that recognises the obligations of their agreement with the ministry and under the act".
02:45 irma There is wisdom in dividing up such jobs in parts. Do 10%, if it works progress to the next 10% ...
02:45 irma Anyway back to work ... Have a pleasant afternoon...
02:46 eythian later :)
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04:26 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
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06:33 * magnuse waves
06:33 * bag knuckles
06:33 * magnuse knuckles back
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06:33 magnuse <<<<<<<<
06:33 marcelr hi #koha
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06:33 fridolin hie
06:34 marcelr hi fridolin
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06:35 reiveune hello
06:35 wahanui privet, reiveune
06:39 magnuse missed the meetings yesterday - gah!
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06:45 marcelr hi reiveune magnuse
06:46 reiveune salut marcelr magnuse rangi
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06:51 alex_a bonjour
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07:13 Joubu Good morning #koha
07:13 drojf morning #koha
07:16 marcelr hi Joubu drojf
07:17 magnuse @wunder marseille
07:17 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 15.1°C (9:02 AM CEST on April 16, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
07:17 magnuse nice
07:17 magnuse @wunder boo
07:17 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on April 16, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Rising).
07:17 magnuse hm...
07:17 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
07:17 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 8.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on April 16, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
07:17 drojf looks way warmer
07:23 magnuse gah, translations
07:31 * magnuse wishes he could spend a year to make koha use an explicit approach to marking strings for translation, like [% l('Some string') %]
07:34 drojf cait++
07:34 drojf no translations for me
07:35 magnuse drojf: lucky you
07:36 * magnuse wishes cait would do the norwegian translation too
07:43 drojf heh
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07:54 magnuse kia ora cait
07:56 * cait waves
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08:07 magnuse hey cait: wanna do the nb-NO translation too?
08:20 cait nope
08:20 cait but it was not bad for german
08:23 magnuse i have not been able to keep up with the staff translation, so that has grown a bit...
08:23 cait i am lucky - drojf and mveron do a lot
08:30 magnuse drojf++ mveron++
08:32 ashimema @wunder stevenage, uk
08:32 huginn` ashimema: The current temperature in Pin Green, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 11.0°C (9:30 AM BST on April 16, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
08:32 cdickinson @wunder nzwn
08:32 huginn` cdickinson: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (8:00 PM NZST on April 16, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
08:36 cait morning ashimema :)
08:36 ashimema morning cait
08:37 magnuse hiya ashimema and cdickinson
08:37 cdickinson Hiya magnuse
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08:40 ashimema hi magnuse
08:41 ashimema hi cdickinson
08:43 cdickinson Hiya ashimema
08:44 cdickinson wow, my IRC client is taking a selfish amount of CPU
08:44 cdickinson all of a sudden
08:44 cdickinson no, fixed itself... ?_>?
08:44 cdickinson ?_?*
08:46 cait it's because you told us
08:47 cdickinson in that case, good thing I did :P
08:47 cdickinson Firefox is doing something similar though, must have too many tabs open again
08:51 magnuse firefox sometimes goes crazy, even without lots of tabs
08:54 cdickinson yeah x_x it'd be nice if it wasn't, but it's my weapon of choice so I have to live with the repercussions of that
08:55 magnuse wow, vlc was misbehaving for me. kill the right process and the fan goes quiet
09:04 cdickinson my computer is whisper quiet so I don't have problems like that, thankfully
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09:13 magnuse so is mine, as long as nothing is misbehaving
10:08 ashimema mines not ;(
10:09 ashimema 'tis like a tornado in here..
10:09 ashimema it felt really quiet when it was new..
10:09 ashimema bt that was 5 years ago
10:10 cait hm maybe cleanig the fans could help? made a huge difference on mien
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11:41 cait Joubu++
11:46 marcelr khall++ #10480
11:47 khall np!
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11:49 magnuse anyone need an excuse to go to Oslo in may?
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12:22 Joubu khall: Hi! Could I get your opinion on the alternative patch I have just submitted on bug 13482 please?
12:22 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13482 normal, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , A race condition prevents item info from being available for ReserveSlip (hold notice) printing.
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12:45 gaetan_B hello
12:48 andreashm hi
12:48 wahanui que tal, andreashm
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12:52 tcohen morning
12:52 tcohen Joubu:
12:55 magnuse ¡hola tcohen!
12:57 marcelr hi tcohen : in the race again for RM :)
12:58 tcohen that's correct
12:58 andreashm hey
12:59 tcohen marcelr: i think i can commit more hours a day to that tasks now
13:00 tcohen amd I enjoy it, so... i propose to continue if the community agrees
13:00 marcelr very good; i expect not many to step up still ..
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13:02 nengard morning all
13:03 marcelr hi nengard
13:04 nengard :)
13:05 magnuse tcohen++
13:05 magnuse kia ora nengard
13:06 tcohen hi nengard
13:18 Joubu tcohen: hello
13:18 cait Joubu++ reading my mind?
13:19 cait also khall++
13:19 Joubu cait: ?
13:19 cait the race condition bug
13:19 cait i was so wishing someone would look at that again :)
13:19 Joubu I tried another approach
13:19 cait it seems to happen all the time nw - i got a very unhappy library
13:19 Joubu tcohen: have you seen my later yesterday?
13:19 tcohen i didn't
13:20 tcohen was it about Members::Search() ?
13:20 Joubu yes!
13:20 andreashm magnuse: sent you an e-mail. good news.
13:21 Joubu tcohen: do you understand the problem?
13:22 tcohen we are fixing a bug, but the unit tests re-introduce a use of Members::Search
13:22 magnuse andreashm: i saw. excellent! but i gotta run again... :-)
13:22 tcohen which we want to remove
13:23 Joubu tcohen: actually the code introduced by the first patch has been removed by the "DT for all patron searches" patch
13:23 Joubu so tests don't make sense anymore, and worst, it reintroduces call to this routine
13:25 andreashm magnuse: np, get back to me when you have time. just wanted to let you know.
13:27 tcohen Joubu: i haven't revisited the situation yet, sorry
13:27 tcohen but I will sure revert it if you are correct
13:28 tcohen which I'm pretty sure you are
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14:04 chris_n Anybody seen this problem:
14:04 chris_n We are upgrading from Koha to, you must update your database
14:04 chris_n annot open log file /home/cnighswonger/koha-dev/var/log/up​datedatabase_2015-04-16T10:03:37.log: No such file or directory at /home/cnighswonger/Repositories​/ line 332.
14:09 chris_n seems to be related to 83fee24d
14:09 chris_n which looks to be planck related which I am not running
14:11 Joubu chris_n: have a look at bug 13876
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14:16 cait chris_n: and run the update from command line for now
14:19 cait Joubu: left a note on bug 10355
14:19 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10355 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Second click on modification log misses object parameter
14:20 Joubu cait: that's what I did :)
14:20 Joubu will try on 3.18
14:20 cait ok
14:20 cait maybe one of the recent changes broke it?
14:20 cait it's the src paramter i think
14:21 Joubu ha, it's different in 3.18
14:21 cait there are 3 ways i know: from hte patron account, from the record detail page and from tools
14:22 Joubu cait: on master, i got the tool menu, even if I come from the detail page
14:22 cait i think we broke that then hm
14:22 Joubu it's a ft or a bug? :)
14:22 cait bug :)
14:22 cait can you try from the patron account?
14:23 cait works in 3.18 for me - staying in the patron account
14:23 Joubu from the patron account, I got the circ menu
14:23 Joubu ok so it's a bug, git bisect power
14:26 Joubu ok new bug, my bad
14:26 Joubu fix one, introduce one...
14:30 cait heh
14:30 cait 99 little bugs in the code...
14:32 cait oh i missed bug 14000
14:32 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14000 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Icons not longer appear on sco
14:32 cait remember all - tomorrow is QA sprint!
14:55 cait bye all :)
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14:56 chris_n Joubu: 13876 fixed it for me, so I signed off on the patches as well
15:09 reiveune bye
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15:30 Joubu chris_n: thanks! I will have a look again tomorrow to qa it
15:31 Joubu have a good day/evening #koha
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15:57 gaetan_B bye
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16:24 data_doctor There is a problem with the System preference: AllowHoldsOnPatronsPossessions
16:24 data_doctor It does not work as expected in v3.16
16:24 data_doctor[…]_bug.cgi?id=13374
16:24 huginn` Bug 13374: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , AllowHoldsOnPatronsPossessions not working
16:25 data_doctor Looks like old code is the culprit.
16:25 data_doctor Does anyone know if this is addressed in v3.18?
16:25 data_doctor I'll try to find out.
16:40 data_doctor The 'GetItemsByBiblioitemnumber' subroutine, and the appear to have the same issues in v3.18.
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16:57 tcohen Joubu: Koha::Version?
17:21 tcohen gmcharlt_: it is possible that the git server's disk is full?
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17:26 smrt hi does anyone know of a quick way to get the guarantor information into an overdue notice?  is there a tag or something I can just put into the template?
17:30 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7143 Adding new developers and releases to the history <[…]228ecf2c9b9ac93a4> / Bug 13803 Flag to self check book has gone into transit <[…]9633222ab72ae6192> / Bug 13991: (QA followup) uninitialized value and [0] in /tools/ <http://git.koha-co
17:51 bag tcohen: I can check on git server being full or not
17:51 tcohen bag: awesome!
17:51 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, tcohen
17:52 bag tcohen 43% full
17:52 tcohen when i last pushed, i got some errors about exim not being able to write something on /var/spool
17:52 tcohen but the push worked
17:53 bag yeah it looks like you have tons of space
17:53 tcohen ok, i won't care then :-D
17:56 * magnuse knucles
18:04 bag knuckles
18:05 magnuse <<<<<<<
18:06 magnuse bag: HI
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18:40 andreashm mjello
18:40 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Revert "Bug 13189: (QA Followup) Unit Tests" <[…]54740d4b6271894f6> / Bug 10480: (QA followup) hide the plugin <[…]43394fb2c3aaa34f6> / Bug 10480: Follow-up for unimarc_field_686a/ <[…]=koha.git;a=commi
18:42 chris_n @seen oleonard
18:42 huginn` chris_n: oleonard was last seen in #koha 6 weeks, 6 days, 0 hours, 47 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <oleonard> That's very strange squash. I'm sorry, I don't know what's going on.
18:42 chris_n wow, that's awhile ago
18:43 chris_n @later tell oleonard have a look at bug 10222
18:43 huginn` chris_n: The operation succeeded.
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18:53 gmcharlt_ bag: could you pass the word to Larry that the Git server's main filesystem has gone read-only?
18:55 bag gmcharlt_: done
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18:57 larryb hey gmcharlt_
18:57 andreashm ah. found a trivial bug. I'm on it! =)
18:58 gmcharlt_ larryb:
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19:01 larryb gmcharlt, I have a suspicion. We had two sites this morning that locked up, and we had to put them in rescue mode to run fsck. I'm wondering if we're seeing similar disk errors on the git server. I think I need to reboot and see if the console indicates fsck errors.
19:01 larryb it'll be down for a little while
19:01 gmcharlt larryb: I had a feeling; thanks for looking at this!
19:02 * gmcharlt starts humming the hurry-along-fsck song
19:02 larryb I'm wondering if these three sites share a common Rackspace host
19:02 larryb having this many sites with fsck errors at once is unheard of
19:02 gmcharlt yeah, that does sound consistent with a failure of storage on the host
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19:09 larryb okay gmcharlt I rebooted the server and fsck did report errors that it corrected. It's up now and *appears* to be working.
19:09 gmcharlt larryb++
19:09 larryb if it goes read-only again, let me know and I'll Rackspace to move it to another host.
19:09 larryb ask
19:10 gmcharlt larryb: you regularly rack space and time...
19:10 * gmcharlt backs away slowly
19:10 gmcharlt ;)
19:10 larryb heh
19:10 larryb thanks, I think
19:10 gmcharlt larryb: what a difference a missing word makes ;)
19:12 larryb yes, I often leave out words when I'm typing in IRC, usually with humorous or embarrassing results
19:14 magnuse @later tell tcohen could you please cast an eye on bug 14006?
19:14 huginn` magnuse: The operation succeeded.
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19:41 magnuse kia ora pianohacker! now get back to your studies ;-)
19:42 pianohacker :(
19:43 magnuse it's that fun, eh?
19:45 pianohacker counting down every hour...
19:46 magnuse how many left?
19:51 pianohacker 25 days and 10 hours
19:51 magnuse w00t!
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20:04 andreashm If I don't agree with changes introduced in a patch, the correct way forward would be to write a comment?
20:08 wnickc andreashm: I think so, and set to in-discussion or another status depending on the level and type of disagreement
20:09 wnickc bug in question?
20:09 andreashm bug 14005
20:09 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14005 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Fix wording of previousIssuesDefaultSortOrder and todaysIssuesDefaultSortOrder
20:09 andreashm small one
20:12 andreashm should I change status to in-discussion? (seems a bit silly for a trivial bug...)
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20:17 wnickc I always lean toward changing it, if someone strongly disagrees they can change it back
20:17 andreashm ok, thanks wnickc
20:20 cait :)
20:21 pianohacker heh, woops, that was a kind of confusing way to word that
20:32 cait @wunder Konstanz
20:32 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 16.8°C (10:32 PM CEST on April 16, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
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20:33 hkh !whois cait
20:34 cait hi
20:34 cait wondering about me? :)
20:35 hkh cait: I am a newbee, trying to get involved
20:35 cait ah, what's your background?
20:35 hkh cait: I got a hint you are expert in connecting to sru at dnb
20:36 cait ah not sure i can help there - haven't tried it out yet
20:36 cait so far we have only used the z39.50 features
20:36 hkh cait: y background is many years in it, now retired and working to keep a library at grossauheim alive
20:36 cait ah i think we have talked on the phone ;)
20:37 cait does it have to be dnb or is another german source ok too?
20:37 hkh cait: other sources are welcome, no doubt
20:38 hkh cait: dnb offers only sru but the catalog seems to be very comprehensive
20:38 cait I think sru with dnb should totally be possible, i just didn't have time to play with it yet
20:39 hkh cait: registration required for bsz-bw?
20:39 cait nope
20:39 cait it's free
20:40 hkh cait: I'll try bsz-bw!
20:40 cait hm and fix the typo
20:40 cait z3950n
20:41 cait i think irspy might have other sources - all the big union catalogs I think probably still offer z39.50
20:42 hkh cait: next question: after registration I was successful to query dnb from the browser however querying from koha failed
20:43 cait hm really not have experience with sru yet :( marcelr developed the feature, he might be a good person to ask for advice
20:43 hkh cait how can I debug, e.g. see what query was sent out and what response came back? tcpdump or koha specific debugging?
20:43 cait mostly around at saner times of the day tho
20:54 hkh cait: thanks fot today's advice :-)
21:22 wizzyrea hi
21:28 wnickc hi
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22:01 wnickc good night #koha
22:18 eythian hi
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