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oa10712 |
Are there any known issues with some of the barcode types? Neither of the 2of5 formats have been rendering properly on the .pdfs. Apologies if this is the wrong place to ask |
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eythian |
it's the right place to ask, I just have no answer for your question. |
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dcook |
oa10712: No idea. We just use Code39, and that works great. |
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dcook |
You might try one of the mailing lists though |
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dcook |
http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
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oa10712 |
Ok, I will try there next. Thank you |
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dcook |
np |
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eythian |
@wunder nzwn |
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eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 21.0°C (12:00 PM NZST on April 07, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling). |
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eythian |
dew point of 16° is weird. |
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dcook |
@wunder syd |
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huginn` |
dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 22.0°C (10:30 AM AEST on April 07, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
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dcook |
Not too shabby |
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dcook |
eythian: I'm starting to feel some of your authorities pain |
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dcook |
Ahh, wait. I think I figured it out... sort of. |
| 01:04 |
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dcook |
No... maybe not |
| 01:05 |
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dcook |
A "Main entry" search returns the result... but not "Anywhere", "Heading match", or "Main entry ($a only)". |
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dcook |
Aha. Indexing issue.. |
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dcook |
Surprising though.. |
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eythian |
rangi: what's the release date (roughly) for 3.20? |
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rangi |
may 22 |
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rangi |
argentinian time, so the 23rd for us |
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eythian |
OK good. I'm going to push for retiring squeeze and precise for that release. |
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dcook |
@later tell ashimema Huh... just ran into the DBIx::Connector thing as well... |
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huginn` |
dcook: The operation succeeded. |
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rangi |
sounds good to me |
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eythian |
we've got a patch that would require an unreasonable amount of effort to backport modules for |
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rangi |
yeah |
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eythian |
and jessie release is April 25. |
| 02:51 |
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rangi |
yeah |
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dcook |
What's the plan for Zebra and Jessie? |
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eythian |
I don't have one. |
| 02:52 |
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eythian |
Short of packaging a new version myself, it's a tricky one. |
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rangi |
post freeze, we can agitate to get the new version in, its just bugfix eh? |
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rangi |
or did they load in new features as well? |
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dcook |
rangi: yeah, it's just a bugfix |
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dcook |
I don't think they did anything else in 2.0.60 but that fix |
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rangi |
yeah, then we can probably get the zebra maintainer for debian to put the new version in |
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dcook |
Sweeet |
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eythian |
yeah, that's quite possible |
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dcook |
That'd be ideal |
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dcook |
Doesn't Ubuntu drop a new version soon as well? |
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rangi |
yep april |
| 02:54 |
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rangi |
15.04 |
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eythian |
should fire up koha on a beta of that |
| 02:55 |
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dcook |
good idea |
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dcook |
I think 15.04 will have Zebra 2.0.59 as well |
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rangi |
most likely its usually pretty close to whatever is in debian testing |
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dcook |
Once Debian have 2.0.60, would we contact the Zebra maint for Ubuntu then? |
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dcook |
I don't suppose they would package it separately |
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eythian |
hmm |
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eythian |
I'm not sure |
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rangi |
they usually just pull from debian anyway |
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eythian |
well, they snapshot from unstable |
| 02:59 |
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eythian |
yeah, vivid is getting 2.0.59 |
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eythian |
I wouldn't expect debian to update to 2.0.60, but they pay pull in the fix |
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eythian |
*may |
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eythian |
even better if someone else does it and attaches a debdiff... |
| 03:00 |
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dcook |
debdiff? |
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eythian |
like a diff, but for debs |
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rangi |
interestingly |
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rangi |
vincent danjean |
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rangi |
was the first person to try to package Koha |
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rangi |
(the debian maintainer for zebra) |
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rangi |
http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/c[…].44-3.1/changelog |
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rangi |
i reckon theres a reasonable chance we could get the fix in |
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dcook |
It would be great. Otherwise, people using ICU might get a bit of a shock |
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dcook |
I think eythian already has an open bug report? |
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eythian |
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bi[…]rt.cgi?bug=777515 |
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rangi |
https://twitter.com/MetService[…]85292014079451137 |
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dcook |
Hmm, it went for blue skies to storm to blue skies again here.. |
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cdickinson |
looking at that, it'll stop raining eventually, but yeah, I feel sorry for everyone else here at work haha |
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AmitG |
hi |
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AmitG |
rangi |
| 04:15 |
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dcook |
Hmm getting that problem that cait pointed out the other day.. |
| 04:15 |
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cdickinson |
he just left :( |
| 04:16 |
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eythian |
dcook: cait points out too many problems for that to be a useful specifier. |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 04:17 |
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dcook |
It was the one about having a problem opening "updatedatabase_2015-04-07T14:16:45.log" |
| 04:17 |
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dcook |
It looks like it was just a permission issue |
| 04:17 |
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dcook |
Hmm... |
| 04:18 |
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dcook |
That might be more of a problem for package installs... this is a git install |
| 04:20 |
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dcook |
Hmm... had a time out during the database update as well... but that might be a proxy issue |
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eythian |
oh yeah |
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eythian |
I saw that too |
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dcook |
Hmm... is Apache run as root on Debian? |
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dcook |
The logs all seem to be owned by root... |
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eythian |
sorta |
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eythian |
normally it launches as root and changes to www-data, but we subvert that process in the packages |
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dcook |
O_o |
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dcook |
Interesting |
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wahanui |
rumour has it Interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
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eythian |
it launches as root to read things like SSL keys on startup |
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eythian |
at least, I think that's how it works. |
| 04:24 |
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dcook |
Makes sense that it would start off as root and switch |
| 04:24 |
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dcook |
How do we subvert it though? |
| 04:24 |
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dcook |
Actually, something I've been meaning to try.. |
| 04:25 |
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dcook |
The help files are in theory editable |
| 04:25 |
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dcook |
But I would think that would cause problems with a package install.. |
| 04:25 |
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dcook |
Well, not necessarily problems, but the sharing of user-generated HTML |
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eythian |
we have it change to the specific koha user based on the virtual host |
| 04:25 |
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eythian |
yeah |
| 04:26 |
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eythian |
they either shouldn't be editable, or (better) they should save somewhere so that they only apply to that instance. |
| 04:26 |
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dcook |
I like the latter idea :) |
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wizzyrea |
I suppose it's not a terrible notion to keep the edited help in the db |
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wizzyrea |
? |
| 04:26 |
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wizzyrea |
and fall back to the templates (or display it in addition) |
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eythian |
that is probably better |
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eythian |
messing with the filesystem is always a pain |
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wizzyrea |
not sure why we did that in the first place :/ |
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wizzyrea |
pretty sure I wasn't involved at the time. |
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wizzyrea |
:P |
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dcook |
hehe |
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dcook |
How do we change the Apache user with the packages? |
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dcook |
I'm so intrigued now.. |
| 04:29 |
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dcook |
AssignUserID? |
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eythian |
it's a feature of MPM-ITK |
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eythian |
in fact, it's its primary feature |
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dcook |
That's neat |
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dcook |
I guess that means that the package installs shouldn't run into that "updatedatabase...log" problem |
| 04:32 |
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dcook |
Although I wonder why the intranet-error.log is owned by root rather than my devkoha user |
| 04:33 |
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dcook |
I suppose they're probably part of different processes |
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dcook |
With ErrorLog happening at a higher level than the processes executed using the user designated by AssignUserID |
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* dcook |
stops rambling |
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dcook |
This is what happens when I get hungry... |
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dcook |
Or when I'm breathing.. |
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eythian |
the logs should be owned by the koha user |
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eythian |
oh |
| 04:35 |
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eythian |
maybe not |
| 04:35 |
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eythian |
no, mostly owned by root |
| 04:35 |
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eythian |
I guess they get opened when the server starts up before it's vhosted |
| 04:38 |
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dcook |
Imagine so |
| 04:38 |
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dcook |
I wonder then... |
| 04:38 |
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dcook |
What the "updatedatabase...log" will be owned by |
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eythian |
I think I had the problem that it was never created |
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eythian |
and that's why it was dying. |
| 04:38 |
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dcook |
Yeah, that's the problem I had |
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dcook |
Our Apache runs as its own user though, so when I fixed the permissions for my install, that did the trick |
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dcook |
But that's a non-package install |
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dcook |
Might be worth someone installing the master packages and seeing what happens when new database updates come down |
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eythian |
I don't know what will happen with the packages. |
| 04:40 |
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eythian |
though, master packages are in the repo, someone could test them :) |
| 04:40 |
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dcook |
True true :) |
| 04:41 |
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dcook |
Well, I think they'd need to install the master packages and then need to wait for an update |
| 04:41 |
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eythian |
yes, I suppose |
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dcook |
Unless the atomic update has changed installs as well |
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eythian |
or just put an old db in |
| 04:42 |
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dcook |
Possibly yeah |
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dcook |
I admit I haven't followed this atomic update thing much |
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eythian |
I don't think it's actually in place yet is it? |
| 04:45 |
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dcook |
It looks like it's in master |
| 04:45 |
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dcook |
As that log is part of it |
| 04:45 |
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dcook |
The last two entries in mine are: |
| 04:45 |
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dcook |
DEV atomic update : hourlyloans.sql |
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dcook |
DEV atomic update : oai_sets.sql |
| 04:45 |
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dcook |
Which... I don't know whether or not they're even supposed to be there |
| 04:45 |
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eythian |
oh, very recent |
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eythian |
hmm |
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wizzyrea |
that moment when you think to yourself "gosh, it's been a long time since I haven't been able to make THAT work" and then you realise zebra isn't running. |
| 04:46 |
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wizzyrea |
derrrrrrr |
| 04:47 |
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eythian |
possibly since bug 13068? |
| 04:47 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13068 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , New feature for DB update and sandbox |
| 04:47 |
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dcook |
Good ol' Zebra |
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eythian |
wizzyrea: I do that all the time |
| 04:47 |
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dcook |
eythian: Yeah, I think that's the one |
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dcook |
Hmm, it looks a bit weird |
| 04:47 |
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wizzyrea |
believe it or not, that is actually comforting. :P |
| 04:47 |
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eythian |
it's why I have on my ES list to give a sensible response if you can't connect to the ES server. |
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eythian |
rather than "no results" |
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wizzyrea |
<3 |
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dcook |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
my hero |
| 04:47 |
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dcook |
eythian++ |
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wizzyrea |
eythian++ for sure |
| 04:48 |
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dcook |
I really need to grab a super late lunch... |
| 04:48 |
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dcook |
Laters if I don't see you NZers when I get back |
| 04:48 |
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eythian |
bye |
| 05:12 |
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eythian |
ug virtualbox has stopped working properly for me |
| 05:12 |
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eythian |
time to find a new virtualisation system |
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dcook |
eythian: That doesn't sound good :( |
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eythian |
and I can't make libvirt work either |
| 05:38 |
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dcook |
:( |
| 05:38 |
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dcook |
I admit I've been delaying upgrading Vbox as I didn't want to break anything.. |
| 05:38 |
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dcook |
Not that I use it for anything too important any way though.. |
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eythian |
I'm wondering if the module has got itself into a weird state. |
| 05:39 |
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eythian |
I might try rebooting. |
| 05:39 |
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dcook |
Not a bad idea |
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malik__ |
Hello to All |
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dcook |
hey malik__ |
| 05:40 |
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malik__ |
can anyone help me ragarding sms service in koha |
| 05:40 |
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dcook |
Alas, I don't know anything about that one. |
| 05:41 |
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dcook |
You might have better luck on one of the listservs: http://lists.koha-community.or[…]/mailman/listinfo |
| 05:41 |
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malik__ |
i have API of a sms service provider in pakistan but i can't configure it |
| 05:41 |
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malik__ |
okk let me check |
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eythian |
ah, that seemed to fix it. |
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dcook |
:D |
| 05:50 |
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eythian |
I probably could have fixed that without a reboot actually, it just didn't give me useful error messages to diagnose the problem. |
| 05:50 |
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eythian |
I think a kernel update had removed stuff so that new vms couldn't start. |
| 05:52 |
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dcook |
Yeah, sometimes I debate the merits of restarting vs finding the root problem.. |
| 05:52 |
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dcook |
Well, think about debating :p |
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eythian |
probably all it would have needed was to reinstall the dkms module and do a restart on the service |
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malik___ |
can anyone help me ragarding sms service in koha |
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malik___ |
in Pakistan |
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* magnuse |
waves |
| 06:00 |
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dcook |
hey magnuse :) |
| 06:00 |
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eythian |
hi magnuse |
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magnuse |
hiya dcook |
| 06:01 |
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magnuse |
kia ora eythian |
| 06:02 |
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magnuse |
eythian: about the covers enh, rangi says "still being tested/refined patches submitted soon" :-) |
| 06:02 |
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dcook |
:D |
| 06:02 |
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eythian |
ah cool. |
| 06:05 |
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eythian |
@wunder nzwn |
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huginn` |
eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0°C (5:30 PM NZST on April 07, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
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eythian |
light rain my butt |
| 06:06 |
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eythian |
which I'd brought a jacket |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
| 06:06 |
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huginn` |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 6.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on April 07, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.70 in 1006 hPa (Rising). |
| 06:06 |
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magnuse |
spring is here, someone just forgot to turn on the heat... |
| 06:06 |
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magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
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huginn` |
magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 5.1°C (7:58 AM CEST on April 07, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Rising). |
| 06:06 |
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magnuse |
hah! |
| 06:06 |
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eythian |
I think we still have your heat here. |
| 06:07 |
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dcook |
@wunder syd |
| 06:07 |
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huginn` |
dcook: The current temperature in Bardwell Park, Sydney, New South Wales is 19.2°C (4:07 PM AEST on April 07, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:07 |
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eythian |
not willing to give it back |
| 06:07 |
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dcook |
^ |
| 06:07 |
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eythian |
pfft, you win due to rounding! |
| 06:10 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 06:10 |
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dcook |
It was pretty warm out there |
| 06:10 |
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dcook |
I think I was actually sweating when I got back from lunch |
| 06:10 |
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eythian |
at least you don't have 94% humidity. |
| 06:10 |
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eythian |
I blame daylight saving going away. |
| 06:10 |
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dcook |
That's true |
| 06:10 |
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eythian |
that's clearly messed with the weather. |
| 06:10 |
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dcook |
People always say it's so humid here, but I think they might be wrong.. |
| 06:11 |
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dcook |
heh |
| 06:11 |
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dcook |
Reminds me of last night |
| 06:11 |
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dcook |
I was all "It's 6pm! Where did the sun go?!" |
| 06:11 |
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* dcook |
comes from the land of no daylight savings time |
| 06:11 |
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eythian |
heh |
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magnuse |
we have been saying to our son all through winter "look, it's dark outside, time to go to bed". during easter he started notcing that it is no longer dark when we tell him it is time to go to bed... |
| 06:18 |
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eythian |
OK, now I have a jessie VM for testing koha on. I think it's time to go brave the elements and actually do the testing tomorrow. |
| 06:18 |
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eythian |
later |
| 06:18 |
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dcook |
:D |
| 06:18 |
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dcook |
later eythian |
| 06:18 |
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dcook |
magnuse: uh oh! |
| 06:27 |
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magnuse |
dcook: time to teach him how a clock works :-) |
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magnuse |
kia ora Viktor |
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Viktor |
Kia ora Magnuse! |
| 06:34 |
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magnuse |
sweden++ for creating awesome music |
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magnuse |
wizzyrea++ for volunteering as rmaint |
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kia ora ashimema |
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Morning #koha |
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Ooh! Aah! #koha! |
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waves |
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magnuse |
kia ora cait |
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magnuse |
oh i forgot cait++ for awesome qa |
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cait |
not sure it's awesome - we will see when the devs have read the comments |
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kivilahtio |
does anybody know what is the status regarding this http://bywatersolutions.com/20[…]fund-volunteers/? |
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kivilahtio |
have the sub-committee members been nominated already? |
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cait |
there is a wiki page |
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cait |
i think 4? or so have signed up |
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cait |
and we got irc meeting on wednesday - i think bag or BobB might give us an updae then |
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cait |
hm today is april 7th |
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kivilahtio |
so tomorrow |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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kivilahtio |
hello |
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wahanui |
salut, kivilahtio |
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kivilahtio |
wahanui: my friend! |
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wahanui |
kivilahtio: sorry... |
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cait |
hm yeah but also the deadline should be over - that bag wrote in the blog post |
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kivilahtio |
cait: so it seems |
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kivilahtio |
I guess we wil lsee tomorrow |
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cait |
yep guess so |
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magnuse |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ting_8_April_2015 |
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andreashm |
hi #koha |
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andreashm |
hey magnuse! |
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wahanui |
hmmm... magnuse is a Norwegian giant. |
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andreashm |
haha |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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andreashm |
is there a way to automatically generate invoices for lost books in Koha? anyone know? |
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sophie_m |
longoverdues.pl ? andreashm |
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andreashm |
sophie_m: doesn't that just generate a fee? not an invoice? I need to look more closely at that script. |
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sophie_m |
yes, it's a fee, sorry |
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cait |
hm would be a good enh to also generate a notice there i |
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andreashm |
yeah |
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andreashm |
so the only way to create invoices in Koha for late/lost books is to do it manually? |
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cait |
right now, yes |
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cait |
i think it would be not too hard maybe to have a new notice, but not sure |
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andreashm |
thanks cait |
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andreashm |
but how to other libraries handle invoicing, even manually? do they generate the lost books report and go by that on what to invoice, or is there some other smart way to generate list of what books to invoice? =) |
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cait |
hm i think one way might be an sql report and then generate a letter with an office suite |
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kivilahtio |
andreashm: I have some code lying around |
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kivilahtio |
andreashm: lemme just think a bit on what you are trying to achieve |
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kivilahtio |
andreashm: I am currently working on rewriting the overdue and claiming module we have |
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kivilahtio |
andreashm: There are some critical issue in the way Koha handles 3rd party integrations and I am trying to find a way around them |
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cait |
Joubu: close to the tax patches now :) |
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kivilahtio |
maunly handling situations gone wrong |
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andreashm |
kivilahtio: at the moment, in our old prop. system, we run a report on books that have recently been marked as lost (long overdue) and then invoices are automatically generated. so we can then send them via email or snail mail. there are to many to handle manually. |
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andreashm |
(or, it can be done of course, but would require a lot of hours of work) |
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Joubu |
cait: :) |
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cait |
i'd really like to find someone for the sip emulator and the syspref caching... |
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andreashm |
cait: yeah, an sql report might be the answer. and then we could probably fix the invoice generating and sendout in our Viola system. but other libraries in Sweden have asked about this feature too, and I was hoping something was built into Koha. |
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cait |
andreashm: i'd encourage you to look in bugzila and write an enh request :) |
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cait |
if there isn't one yet |
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andreashm |
cait: I'll do just that - search bugzilla atleast. |
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kivilahtio |
andreashm: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]odule_rewrite_RFC |
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andreashm |
kivilahtio: thanks. but won'tsome of that clash with http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]otice_Enhancement |
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andreashm |
? |
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cait |
kivilahtio: hm, not sure, does it cover the lost item process? (what happens after the overdues) yet? |
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of for lunch, bbl |
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kivilahtio |
cait: we have a cronjobs for setting items to lost status? |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
longoverdue i think |
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cait |
we don't use that yet, but it's a rather old one |
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cait |
oh it has pictures now - i have to reread the spec |
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kivilahtio |
yup, it looks pretty nice |
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cait |
longoverdues? it recently got a bunch of confguration options as system preferences |
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cait |
meh - is it possible that for calculating the pickup date we don't check the holidays calendar? |
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cait |
yep... it totally looks like that is the case |
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kivilahtio |
cait: yes |
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kivilahtio |
cait: I think we have a commit for that somewhere |
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cait |
found it 12535 |
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cait |
ah sorry |
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cait |
ug 12353 |
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cait |
bug 12353 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12353 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, In Discussion , Reserves last pickup date needs to respect holidays, and everybody need to know the last pickup date for reserves, even notices. |
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cait |
guess it's stuck |
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tcohen |
morning... |
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octo19 |
Hello. How do I force an update of the Koha library via CLI? I want to make a cron job that updates every minute. |
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tcohen |
you mean have your records indexed? |
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octo19 |
yes |
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tcohen |
how did you get your Koha instlaled? |
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tcohen |
what instructions did you follow? |
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octo19 |
I inherited our current system. I have no idea how it was installed. I can tell you it is version 3.12 and running in openSUSE 12.3. |
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octo19 |
I am trying to update koha and openSUSE but the readout keeps telling me everything is outdated so it can't update. |
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tcohen |
can't you install ubuntu? |
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octo19 |
Sure, but I need the database we already have to transfer |
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tcohen |
you are looking for a cron configuration running the indexer |
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octo19 |
is that easy? |
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octo19 |
yes I am |
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tcohen |
it is really easy |
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tcohen |
to move koha to another box |
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octo19 |
Koha recommends Debian, but I know more about Ubuntu. Is one easier than the other? |
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tcohen |
they are both the same |
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tcohen |
regarding the install procedure |
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octo19 |
I want to have a system with little-to-no user involvement. |
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nlegrand |
octo19: I'm a bit puzzled, you're looking to update the software or the search engine indexation? |
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tcohen |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ubuntu_-_packages |
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octo19 |
Currently our koha system is running in a VM |
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tcohen |
follow that ^^^^^^ |
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tcohen |
to get an instance created |
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tcohen |
once you figure how to do it |
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tcohen |
just delete its database |
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tcohen |
and put a dump from the old one |
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tcohen |
instead |
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octo19 |
nlegrand i need to both, but my initial question was to update the index. |
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octo19 |
tcohen ah so adding the debian repo to ubuntu will make everything run smoothly? |
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tcohen |
exactly |
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akafred |
(I would say debian is a little bit less hassle.) |
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nlegrand |
octo19: ok :) did you check the crontab of the unix account dedicated to koha ? |
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tcohen |
please pick 14.04 |
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tcohen |
or debian 7, which is on top of which Koha is usully tested |
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octo19 |
akafred less of a hassle to run or install? |
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akafred |
install |
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octo19 |
nlegrand yes i checked the user and root crontabs |
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tcohen |
the only difference is that Ubuntu 14.04 ships with apache 2.4 in which you'd need to run a command from the appendix before doing the koha-common install |
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tcohen |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g_apache2-mpm-itk. |
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octo19 |
what version of apache do i need for koha? |
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octo19 |
or does it matter? |
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tcohen |
octo19: don't worry about that |
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tcohen |
follow the instructions and you are safe |
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tcohen |
if you feel like trying debian |
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tcohen |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Koha_on_Debian |
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tcohen |
follow that, which have been updated recently |
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octo19 |
great. |
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octo19 |
tcohen thanks for the tips! |
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cait |
tcohen++ |
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magnuse |
tcohen++ |
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cait |
Joubu++ fixing all the bugs |
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cait |
Joubu: maybe you could take a look at bug 13957? i think it might be related to the recent changes for patron search |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13957 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Patron autocomplete shows NULL in list of results |
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cait |
but... there are lots of bugs to pick from... /me has a bug filing day today |
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cait |
searching bugzilla can make you a bit paranoid about bugs :) |
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Joubu |
cait: will have a lookg |
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cait |
filing the suggestions/bugs that came up during our user meeting a few weeks ago (finally) |
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cait |
Joubu++ super fast :) |
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cait |
Joubu: there is a similar bug in acq - int he table of received items |
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cait |
all the empty fields go null |
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cait |
bug 10388 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10388 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , acq edited items showing 'null's |
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cait |
:) |
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Joubu |
cait: I don't reproduce this one |
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cait |
hmm did you edit the item? |
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Joubu |
but on the screenshot, barcode is "null" on the first row, but "" on the second |
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cait |
using the edit link on the recieve page |
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cait |
it happens when you edit it, for example to add the barcode label |
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Joubu |
no..., trying again |
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Joubu |
ok got it :) |
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cait |
sorry for feeding you with bugs :) just thought if this is similar might be an easy one now |
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Joubu |
yep, should be easy to fix too |
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gaetan_B |
bye |
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misilot |
With the patron import, if I want to blank out passwords can I sent NULL in the csv import file? |
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cait |
just leave it empty |
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cait |
'' |
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cait |
and the passwrod field should have a ! later i think - indictaing there is no password set |
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misilot |
cait: ok thanks. Trying to build the template to hand to another department to get user loads |
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misilot |
are streetnumber and streettype actually used? I don't see them in the edit user, so just curious |
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cait |
streettype appears when you cnfigure them in the admin area |
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misilot |
cait: ah ok thank you |
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cait |
streetnumber should be visible - but maybe check borrowerunwantedfields of you don't see it |
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misilot |
cait: yup it is hidden. thanks for answering my curiosity :) |
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misilot |
dateenrolled should get auto populated on import? |
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cait |
it will be set automatically with today's date if not in your data |
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misilot |
ok thanks |
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misilot |
that's great :) lots of records will be updated once I get this working :) |
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cait |
be careful - if you want to update a borrower with the passwords |
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cait |
i think they might be overriden/set to null if you have the column in the spreadsheet |
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cait |
I'd test with a single borrower |
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misilot |
I want them to be cleared, since we will be using LDAP or CAS for authentication of our users |
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cait |
loading new patrons is easy... updating existing ones is a bit more tricky in my experience |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
all good then |
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cait |
have to leave, bye all |
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misilot |
bye and thank you cait |
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cait |
np :) |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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* magnuse |
waves at cait |
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* magnuse |
gets ignored by cait |
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barton|lunch |
afternoon, cait |
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barton |
cait: I wonder if you could take another look at http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6499 ? |
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huginn` |
Bug 6499: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, barton, Failed QA , MARC21 035 -- Other-control-number -- Indexing & Matching |
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barton |
@seen cait |
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huginn` |
barton: cait was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 47 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <cait> np :) |
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cait |
was cooking dinner |
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cait |
not sure when i will get to it barton - maybe reset to needs signoff with a note for now? |
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tcohen |
@later tell rangi would you join me on a talk with randal schwartz? |
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huginn` |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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magnuse |
tjänare Viktor |
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Viktor |
Hej magnuse :) |
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magnuse |
tcohen: i think rangi said he would probably not find time for it, but worth another shot :-) |
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barton |
cait: will do, thanks. |
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* tcohen |
knows magnuse |
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cait |
asking for another tester |
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tcohen |
I'm giving a shot |
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* tcohen |
needs to set a date |
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cait |
hm? |
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cait |
now you got me curious :) |
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magnuse |
tcohen: awesome to see koha and you on the list of upcoming guests :-) |
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barton |
cait: I updated bug 6499, including a new test procedure and some notes about some 'gotchas' that I've run into along the way. |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6499 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, barton, Needs Signoff , MARC21 035 -- Other-control-number -- Indexing & Matching |
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wnickc |
hi all |
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tcohen |
bye #koha |
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cait |
barton: cool |
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cait |
khall_away: around? |
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waves |
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pianohacker |
Hi #koha |
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barton |
hi pianohacker! |
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pianohacker |
heh, hi barton |
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TGoat |
@later tell druthb_away to please call Todd from ByWater @ 775-335-7940. Thanks |
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huginn` |
TGoat: The operation succeeded. |
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bag |
hey TGoat she may not write anything in channel as druthb_away - probably better to leave that as druthb instead |
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TGoat |
thanks! |
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TGoat |
@later tell druthb to please call Todd from ByWater @ 775-335-7940. Thanks |
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huginn` |
TGoat: The operation succeeded. |
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waves |
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cait |
wow |
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cait |
what happened to the manual? |
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cait |
pretty! |
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pianohacker |
yeah, that's cool. I like the layout |
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barton |
if I want to report a bug regarding koha-gitify, how do I categorize that? Installer? Tools? |
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cait |
it seems like some got reported on github |
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cait |
https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify/issues |
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wizzyrea |
barton: do it on github. |
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wizzyrea |
no one will see it in our bz. |
| 21:16 |
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wizzyrea |
koha gitify is a separate project to koha. Just like kohadevbox. |
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barton |
gotcha. |
| 21:37 |
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barton |
wizzyrea: https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify/issues/4 |
| 21:38 |
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wizzyrea |
yep, feel free to submit a patch too, if you like. |
| 21:38 |
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barton |
nod. |
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wizzyrea |
please tell me you're not trying to use gitify in production. |
| 21:40 |
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barton |
no, but it's still pain to have all of the zebra indexes break in test environments. |
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wizzyrea |
good because that would be nuts. |
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barton |
wizzyrea: didn't you know that all of the bywater folk were a bit touched? |
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barton |
;-) |
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* wizzyrea |
pleads ignorance |
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barton |
lol |
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eythian |
hi |
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wahanui |
que tal, eythian |
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* dcook |
waves |
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eythian |
hi dcook |
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dcook |
heya eythian |
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