Time Nick Message 23:15 dcook heya eythian 23:14 eythian hi dcook 23:07 * dcook waves 22:32 wahanui que tal, eythian 22:32 eythian hi 21:41 barton lol 21:41 * wizzyrea pleads ignorance 21:41 barton ;-) 21:41 barton wizzyrea: didn't you know that all of the bywater folk were a bit touched? 21:40 wizzyrea good because that would be nuts. 21:40 barton no, but it's still pain to have all of the zebra indexes break in test environments. 21:39 wizzyrea please tell me you're not trying to use gitify in production. 21:38 barton nod. 21:38 wizzyrea yep, feel free to submit a patch too, if you like. 21:37 barton wizzyrea: https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify/issues/4 21:17 barton gotcha. 21:16 wizzyrea koha gitify is a separate project to koha. Just like kohadevbox. 21:16 wizzyrea no one will see it in our bz. 21:16 wizzyrea barton: do it on github. 21:14 cait https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify/issues 21:14 cait it seems like some got reported on github 21:12 barton if I want to report a bug regarding koha-gitify, how do I categorize that? Installer? Tools? 21:08 pianohacker yeah, that's cool. I like the layout 21:06 cait pretty! 21:05 cait what happened to the manual? 21:05 cait wow 20:22 * cait waves 20:12 huginn` TGoat: The operation succeeded. 20:12 TGoat @later tell druthb to please call Todd from ByWater @ 775-335-7940. Thanks 20:11 TGoat thanks! 20:11 bag hey TGoat she may not write anything in channel as druthb_away - probably better to leave that as druthb instead 20:10 huginn` TGoat: The operation succeeded. 20:10 TGoat @later tell druthb_away to please call Todd from ByWater @ 775-335-7940. Thanks 20:08 pianohacker heh, hi barton 20:07 barton hi pianohacker! 20:04 pianohacker Hi #koha 20:02 * cait waves 19:56 cait khall_away: around? 19:45 cait barton: cool 19:38 tcohen bye #koha 19:33 wnickc hi all 19:21 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6499 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, barton, Needs Signoff , MARC21 035 -- Other-control-number -- Indexing & Matching 19:21 barton cait: I updated bug 6499, including a new test procedure and some notes about some 'gotchas' that I've run into along the way. 19:19 magnuse tcohen: awesome to see koha and you on the list of upcoming guests :-) 18:54 cait now you got me curious :) 18:54 cait hm? 18:54 * tcohen needs to set a date 18:53 tcohen I'm giving a shot 18:53 cait asking for another tester 18:53 * tcohen knows magnuse 18:53 barton cait: will do, thanks. 18:51 magnuse tcohen: i think rangi said he would probably not find time for it, but worth another shot :-) 18:50 Viktor Hej magnuse :) 18:49 magnuse tjänare Viktor 18:44 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded. 18:44 tcohen @later tell rangi would you join me on a talk with randal schwartz? 18:44 cait not sure when i will get to it barton - maybe reset to needs signoff with a note for now? 18:43 cait was cooking dinner 18:39 huginn` barton: cait was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 47 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <cait> np :) 18:39 barton @seen cait 18:26 huginn` 04Bug 6499: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, barton, Failed QA , MARC21 035 -- Other-control-number -- Indexing & Matching 18:26 barton cait: I wonder if you could take another look at http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6499 ? 18:25 barton|lunch afternoon, cait 18:25 * magnuse gets ignored by cait 18:17 * magnuse waves at cait 17:56 * magnuse waves 16:51 cait np :) 16:51 misilot bye and thank you cait 16:51 cait have to leave, bye all 16:51 cait all good then 16:51 cait ah 16:51 cait loading new patrons is easy... updating existing ones is a bit more tricky in my experience 16:51 misilot I want them to be cleared, since we will be using LDAP or CAS for authentication of our users 16:51 cait I'd test with a single borrower 16:51 cait i think they might be overriden/set to null if you have the column in the spreadsheet 16:50 cait be careful - if you want to update a borrower with the passwords 16:50 misilot that's great :) lots of records will be updated once I get this working :) 16:48 misilot ok thanks 16:48 cait it will be set automatically with today's date if not in your data 16:47 misilot dateenrolled should get auto populated on import? 16:45 misilot cait: yup it is hidden. thanks for answering my curiosity :) 16:44 cait streetnumber should be visible - but maybe check borrowerunwantedfields of you don't see it 16:44 misilot cait: ah ok thank you 16:44 cait streettype appears when you cnfigure them in the admin area 16:39 misilot are streetnumber and streettype actually used? I don't see them in the edit user, so just curious 16:33 misilot cait: ok thanks. Trying to build the template to hand to another department to get user loads 16:33 cait and the passwrod field should have a ! later i think - indictaing there is no password set 16:32 cait '' 16:32 cait just leave it empty 16:31 misilot With the patron import, if I want to blank out passwords can I sent NULL in the csv import file? 15:10 gaetan_B bye 15:00 Joubu yep, should be easy to fix too 14:59 cait sorry for feeding you with bugs :) just thought if this is similar might be an easy one now 14:59 Joubu ok got it :) 14:58 Joubu no..., trying again 14:58 cait it happens when you edit it, for example to add the barcode label 14:58 cait using the edit link on the recieve page 14:58 Joubu but on the screenshot, barcode is "null" on the first row, but "" on the second 14:58 cait hmm did you edit the item? 14:58 Joubu cait: I don't reproduce this one 14:57 cait :) 14:55 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10388 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , acq edited items showing 'null's 14:55 cait bug 10388 14:54 cait all the empty fields go null 14:54 cait Joubu: there is a similar bug in acq - int he table of received items 14:52 cait Joubu++ super fast :) 14:42 cait filing the suggestions/bugs that came up during our user meeting a few weeks ago (finally) 14:40 Joubu cait: will have a lookg 14:35 cait searching bugzilla can make you a bit paranoid about bugs :) 14:35 cait but... there are lots of bugs to pick from... /me has a bug filing day today 14:34 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13957 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Patron autocomplete shows NULL in list of results 14:34 cait Joubu: maybe you could take a look at bug 13957? i think it might be related to the recent changes for patron search 14:17 cait Joubu++ fixing all the bugs 13:31 magnuse tcohen++ 13:14 cait tcohen++ 13:09 octo19 tcohen thanks for the tips! 13:09 octo19 great. 13:09 tcohen follow that, which have been updated recently 13:08 tcohen http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Debian 13:08 tcohen if you feel like trying debian 13:08 tcohen follow the instructions and you are safe 13:08 tcohen octo19: don't worry about that 13:06 octo19 or does it matter? 13:06 octo19 what version of apache do i need for koha? 13:05 tcohen http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages#Some_difficulties_were_encountered_installing_apache2-mpm-itk. 13:04 tcohen the only difference is that Ubuntu 14.04 ships with apache 2.4 in which you'd need to run a command from the appendix before doing the koha-common install 13:04 octo19 nlegrand yes i checked the user and root crontabs 13:03 akafred install 13:03 octo19 akafred less of a hassle to run or install? 13:03 tcohen or debian 7, which is on top of which Koha is usully tested 13:02 tcohen please pick 14.04 13:02 nlegrand octo19: ok :) did you check the crontab of the unix account dedicated to koha ? 13:02 akafred (I would say debian is a little bit less hassle.) 13:02 tcohen exactly 13:02 octo19 tcohen ah so adding the debian repo to ubuntu will make everything run smoothly? 13:01 octo19 nlegrand i need to both, but my initial question was to update the index. 13:01 tcohen instead 13:01 tcohen and put a dump from the old one 13:01 tcohen just delete its database 13:00 tcohen once you figure how to do it 13:00 tcohen to get an instance created 13:00 tcohen follow that ^^^^^^ 13:00 octo19 Currently our koha system is running in a VM 13:00 tcohen http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages 13:00 nlegrand octo19: I'm a bit puzzled, you're looking to update the software or the search engine indexation? 12:59 octo19 I want to have a system with little-to-no user involvement. 12:59 tcohen regarding the install procedure 12:59 tcohen they are both the same 12:58 octo19 Koha recommends Debian, but I know more about Ubuntu. Is one easier than the other? 12:58 tcohen to move koha to another box 12:57 tcohen it is really easy 12:57 octo19 yes I am 12:57 octo19 is that easy? 12:57 tcohen you are looking for a cron configuration running the indexer 12:57 octo19 Sure, but I need the database we already have to transfer 12:57 tcohen can't you install ubuntu? 12:55 octo19 I am trying to update koha and openSUSE but the readout keeps telling me everything is outdated so it can't update. 12:54 octo19 I inherited our current system. I have no idea how it was installed. I can tell you it is version 3.12 and running in openSUSE 12.3. 12:53 tcohen what instructions did you follow? 12:53 tcohen how did you get your Koha instlaled? 12:52 octo19 yes 12:51 tcohen you mean have your records indexed? 12:49 octo19 Hello. How do I force an update of the Koha library via CLI? I want to make a cron job that updates every minute. 12:46 tcohen morning... 10:39 cait guess it's stuck 10:39 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12353 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, In Discussion , Reserves last pickup date needs to respect holidays, and everybody need to know the last pickup date for reserves, even notices. 10:39 cait bug 12353 10:39 cait ug 12353 10:39 cait ah sorry 10:39 cait found it 12535 10:36 kivilahtio cait: I think we have a commit for that somewhere 10:35 kivilahtio cait: yes 10:28 cait yep... it totally looks like that is the case 10:27 cait meh - is it possible that for calculating the pickup date we don't check the holidays calendar? 10:23 cait longoverdues? it recently got a bunch of confguration options as system preferences 10:21 kivilahtio yup, it looks pretty nice 10:21 cait oh it has pictures now - i have to reread the spec 10:20 cait we don't use that yet, but it's a rather old one 10:20 cait longoverdue i think 10:20 cait yep 10:20 kivilahtio cait: we have a cronjobs for setting items to lost status? 10:20 andreashm_away of for lunch, bbl 10:17 cait kivilahtio: hm, not sure, does it cover the lost item process? (what happens after the overdues) yet? 10:16 andreashm ? 10:16 andreashm kivilahtio: thanks. but won'tsome of that clash with http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Overdue_Notice_Enhancement 10:08 kivilahtio andreashm: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Overdues_module_rewrite_RFC 10:03 andreashm cait: I'll do just that - search bugzilla atleast. 10:03 cait if there isn't one yet 10:03 cait andreashm: i'd encourage you to look in bugzila and write an enh request :) 10:02 andreashm cait: yeah, an sql report might be the answer. and then we could probably fix the invoice generating and sendout in our Viola system. but other libraries in Sweden have asked about this feature too, and I was hoping something was built into Koha. 10:01 cait i'd really like to find someone for the sip emulator and the syspref caching... 09:59 Joubu cait: :) 09:59 andreashm (or, it can be done of course, but would require a lot of hours of work) 09:59 andreashm kivilahtio: at the moment, in our old prop. system, we run a report on books that have recently been marked as lost (long overdue) and then invoices are automatically generated. so we can then send them via email or snail mail. there are to many to handle manually. 09:57 kivilahtio maunly handling situations gone wrong 09:57 cait Joubu: close to the tax patches now :) 09:57 kivilahtio andreashm: There are some critical issue in the way Koha handles 3rd party integrations and I am trying to find a way around them 09:56 kivilahtio andreashm: I am currently working on rewriting the overdue and claiming module we have 09:56 kivilahtio andreashm: lemme just think a bit on what you are trying to achieve 09:55 kivilahtio andreashm: I have some code lying around 09:55 cait hm i think one way might be an sql report and then generate a letter with an office suite 09:55 andreashm but how to other libraries handle invoicing, even manually? do they generate the lost books report and go by that on what to invoice, or is there some other smart way to generate list of what books to invoice? =) 09:53 andreashm thanks cait 09:51 cait i think it would be not too hard maybe to have a new notice, but not sure 09:51 cait right now, yes 09:23 andreashm so the only way to create invoices in Koha for late/lost books is to do it manually? 09:22 andreashm yeah 09:20 cait hm would be a good enh to also generate a notice there i 09:14 sophie_m yes, it's a fee, sorry 09:13 andreashm sophie_m: doesn't that just generate a fee? not an invoice? I need to look more closely at that script. 09:09 sophie_m longoverdues.pl ? andreashm 09:04 andreashm is there a way to automatically generate invoices for lost books in Koha? anyone know? 08:59 magnuse :-) 08:59 andreashm haha 08:59 wahanui hmmm... magnuse is a Norwegian giant. 08:59 andreashm hey magnuse! 08:48 andreashm hi #koha 07:54 magnuse http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_8_April_2015 07:41 cait yep guess so 07:40 kivilahtio I guess we wil lsee tomorrow 07:40 kivilahtio cait: so it seems 07:40 cait hm yeah but also the deadline should be over - that bag wrote in the blog post 07:39 wahanui kivilahtio: sorry... 07:39 kivilahtio wahanui: my friend! 07:39 wahanui salut, kivilahtio 07:39 kivilahtio hello 07:38 gaetan_B hello 07:36 kivilahtio so tomorrow 07:36 cait hm today is april 7th 07:35 cait and we got irc meeting on wednesday - i think bag or BobB might give us an updae then 07:35 cait i think 4? or so have signed up 07:35 cait there is a wiki page 07:35 kivilahtio have the sub-committee members been nominated already? 07:34 kivilahtio does anybody know what is the status regarding this http://bywatersolutions.com/2015/03/24/koha-fund-volunteers/? 07:34 cait not sure it's awesome - we will see when the devs have read the comments 07:33 magnuse oh i forgot cait++ for awesome qa 07:33 magnuse kia ora cait 07:29 * magnuse waves 07:28 nlegrand Ooh! Aah! #koha! 07:25 Joubu Morning #koha 07:00 magnuse kia ora ashimema 06:35 magnuse wizzyrea++ for volunteering as rmaint 06:34 magnuse sweden++ for creating awesome music 06:33 Viktor Kia ora Magnuse! 06:32 magnuse kia ora Viktor 06:27 magnuse dcook: time to teach him how a clock works :-) 06:18 dcook magnuse: uh oh! 06:18 dcook later eythian 06:18 dcook :D 06:18 eythian later 06:18 eythian OK, now I have a jessie VM for testing koha on. I think it's time to go brave the elements and actually do the testing tomorrow. 06:16 magnuse we have been saying to our son all through winter "look, it's dark outside, time to go to bed". during easter he started notcing that it is no longer dark when we tell him it is time to go to bed... 06:11 eythian heh 06:11 * dcook comes from the land of no daylight savings time 06:11 dcook I was all "It's 6pm! Where did the sun go?!" 06:11 dcook Reminds me of last night 06:11 dcook heh 06:10 dcook People always say it's so humid here, but I think they might be wrong.. 06:10 eythian that's clearly messed with the weather. 06:10 dcook That's true 06:10 eythian I blame daylight saving going away. 06:10 eythian at least you don't have 94% humidity. 06:10 dcook I think I was actually sweating when I got back from lunch 06:10 dcook It was pretty warm out there 06:10 dcook hehe 06:07 eythian pfft, you win due to rounding! 06:07 dcook ^ 06:07 eythian not willing to give it back 06:07 huginn` dcook: The current temperature in Bardwell Park, Sydney, New South Wales is 19.2°C (4:07 PM AEST on April 07, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). 06:07 dcook @wunder syd 06:06 eythian I think we still have your heat here. 06:06 magnuse hah! 06:06 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 5.1°C (7:58 AM CEST on April 07, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Rising). 06:06 magnuse @wunder marseille 06:06 magnuse spring is here, someone just forgot to turn on the heat... 06:06 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 6.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on April 07, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.70 in 1006 hPa (Rising). 06:06 magnuse @wunder boo 06:06 eythian which I'd brought a jacket 06:05 eythian light rain my butt 06:05 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0°C (5:30 PM NZST on April 07, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). 06:05 eythian @wunder nzwn 06:02 eythian ah cool. 06:02 dcook :D 06:02 magnuse eythian: about the covers enh, rangi says "still being tested/refined patches submitted soon" :-) 06:01 magnuse kia ora eythian 06:00 magnuse hiya dcook 06:00 eythian hi magnuse 06:00 dcook hey magnuse :) 06:00 * magnuse waves 05:59 malik___ in Pakistan 05:58 malik___ can anyone help me ragarding sms service in koha 05:52 eythian probably all it would have needed was to reinstall the dkms module and do a restart on the service 05:52 dcook Well, think about debating :p 05:52 dcook Yeah, sometimes I debate the merits of restarting vs finding the root problem.. 05:50 eythian I think a kernel update had removed stuff so that new vms couldn't start. 05:50 eythian I probably could have fixed that without a reboot actually, it just didn't give me useful error messages to diagnose the problem. 05:50 dcook :D 05:49 eythian ah, that seemed to fix it. 05:41 malik__ okk let me check 05:41 malik__ i have API of a sms service provider in pakistan but i can't configure it 05:41 dcook You might have better luck on one of the listservs: http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo 05:40 dcook Alas, I don't know anything about that one. 05:40 malik__ can anyone help me ragarding sms service in koha 05:39 dcook hey malik__ 05:39 malik__ Hello to All 05:39 dcook Not a bad idea 05:39 eythian I might try rebooting. 05:39 eythian I'm wondering if the module has got itself into a weird state. 05:38 dcook Not that I use it for anything too important any way though.. 05:38 dcook I admit I've been delaying upgrading Vbox as I didn't want to break anything.. 05:38 dcook :( 05:37 eythian and I can't make libvirt work either 05:37 dcook eythian: That doesn't sound good :( 05:12 eythian time to find a new virtualisation system 05:12 eythian ug virtualbox has stopped working properly for me 04:48 eythian bye 04:48 dcook Laters if I don't see you NZers when I get back 04:48 dcook I really need to grab a super late lunch... 04:48 wizzyrea eythian++ for sure 04:47 dcook eythian++ 04:47 wizzyrea my hero 04:47 dcook hehe 04:47 wizzyrea <3 04:47 eythian rather than "no results" 04:47 eythian it's why I have on my ES list to give a sensible response if you can't connect to the ES server. 04:47 wizzyrea believe it or not, that is actually comforting. :P 04:47 dcook Hmm, it looks a bit weird 04:47 dcook eythian: Yeah, I think that's the one 04:47 eythian wizzyrea: I do that all the time 04:47 dcook Good ol' Zebra 04:47 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13068 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , New feature for DB update and sandbox 04:47 eythian possibly since bug 13068? 04:46 wizzyrea derrrrrrr 04:46 wizzyrea that moment when you think to yourself "gosh, it's been a long time since I haven't been able to make THAT work" and then you realise zebra isn't running. 04:46 eythian hmm 04:45 eythian oh, very recent 04:45 dcook Which... I don't know whether or not they're even supposed to be there 04:45 dcook DEV atomic update : oai_sets.sql 04:45 dcook DEV atomic update : hourlyloans.sql 04:45 dcook The last two entries in mine are: 04:45 dcook As that log is part of it 04:45 dcook It looks like it's in master 04:44 eythian I don't think it's actually in place yet is it? 04:42 dcook I admit I haven't followed this atomic update thing much 04:42 dcook Possibly yeah 04:41 eythian or just put an old db in 04:41 dcook Unless the atomic update has changed installs as well 04:41 eythian yes, I suppose 04:41 dcook Well, I think they'd need to install the master packages and then need to wait for an update 04:40 dcook True true :) 04:40 eythian though, master packages are in the repo, someone could test them :) 04:40 eythian I don't know what will happen with the packages. 04:40 dcook Might be worth someone installing the master packages and seeing what happens when new database updates come down 04:39 dcook But that's a non-package install 04:39 dcook Our Apache runs as its own user though, so when I fixed the permissions for my install, that did the trick 04:38 dcook Yeah, that's the problem I had 04:38 eythian and that's why it was dying. 04:38 eythian I think I had the problem that it was never created 04:38 dcook What the "updatedatabase...log" will be owned by 04:38 dcook I wonder then... 04:38 dcook Imagine so 04:35 eythian I guess they get opened when the server starts up before it's vhosted 04:35 eythian no, mostly owned by root 04:35 eythian maybe not 04:34 eythian oh 04:34 eythian the logs should be owned by the koha user 04:34 dcook Or when I'm breathing.. 04:34 dcook This is what happens when I get hungry... 04:34 * dcook stops rambling 04:33 dcook With ErrorLog happening at a higher level than the processes executed using the user designated by AssignUserID 04:33 dcook I suppose they're probably part of different processes 04:32 dcook Although I wonder why the intranet-error.log is owned by root rather than my devkoha user 04:32 dcook I guess that means that the package installs shouldn't run into that "updatedatabase...log" problem 04:30 dcook That's neat 04:30 eythian in fact, it's its primary feature 04:30 eythian it's a feature of MPM-ITK 04:29 dcook AssignUserID? 04:28 dcook I'm so intrigued now.. 04:28 dcook How do we change the Apache user with the packages? 04:27 dcook hehe 04:27 wizzyrea :P 04:27 wizzyrea pretty sure I wasn't involved at the time. 04:27 wizzyrea not sure why we did that in the first place :/ 04:27 eythian messing with the filesystem is always a pain 04:26 eythian that is probably better 04:26 wizzyrea and fall back to the templates (or display it in addition) 04:26 wizzyrea ? 04:26 wizzyrea I suppose it's not a terrible notion to keep the edited help in the db 04:26 dcook I like the latter idea :) 04:26 eythian they either shouldn't be editable, or (better) they should save somewhere so that they only apply to that instance. 04:25 eythian yeah 04:25 eythian we have it change to the specific koha user based on the virtual host 04:25 dcook Well, not necessarily problems, but the sharing of user-generated HTML 04:25 dcook But I would think that would cause problems with a package install.. 04:25 dcook The help files are in theory editable 04:24 dcook Actually, something I've been meaning to try.. 04:24 dcook How do we subvert it though? 04:24 dcook Makes sense that it would start off as root and switch 04:24 eythian at least, I think that's how it works. 04:23 eythian it launches as root to read things like SSL keys on startup 04:23 wahanui rumour has it Interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 04:23 dcook Interesting 04:23 dcook O_o 04:23 eythian normally it launches as root and changes to www-data, but we subvert that process in the packages 04:22 eythian sorta 04:21 dcook The logs all seem to be owned by root... 04:21 dcook Hmm... is Apache run as root on Debian? 04:20 eythian I saw that too 04:20 eythian oh yeah 04:20 dcook Hmm... had a time out during the database update as well... but that might be a proxy issue 04:18 dcook That might be more of a problem for package installs... this is a git install 04:17 dcook Hmm... 04:17 dcook It looks like it was just a permission issue 04:17 dcook It was the one about having a problem opening "updatedatabase_2015-04-07T14:16:45.log" 04:16 dcook hehe 04:16 eythian dcook: cait points out too many problems for that to be a useful specifier. 04:15 cdickinson he just left :( 04:15 dcook Hmm getting that problem that cait pointed out the other day.. 04:12 AmitG rangi 04:12 AmitG hi 04:08 cdickinson looking at that, it'll stop raining eventually, but yeah, I feel sorry for everyone else here at work haha 04:07 dcook Hmm, it went for blue skies to storm to blue skies again here.. 04:07 rangi https://twitter.com/MetService/status/585292014079451137 03:05 eythian https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=777515 03:05 dcook I think eythian already has an open bug report? 03:04 dcook It would be great. Otherwise, people using ICU might get a bit of a shock 03:03 rangi i reckon theres a reasonable chance we could get the fix in 03:02 rangi http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/i/idzebra/idzebra_2.0.44-3.1/changelog 03:02 rangi (the debian maintainer for zebra) 03:02 rangi was the first person to try to package Koha 03:02 rangi vincent danjean 03:02 rangi interestingly 03:00 eythian like a diff, but for debs 03:00 dcook debdiff? 02:59 eythian even better if someone else does it and attaches a debdiff... 02:59 eythian *may 02:59 eythian I wouldn't expect debian to update to 2.0.60, but they pay pull in the fix 02:59 eythian yeah, vivid is getting 2.0.59 02:58 eythian well, they snapshot from unstable 02:58 rangi they usually just pull from debian anyway 02:58 eythian I'm not sure 02:58 eythian hmm 02:57 dcook I don't suppose they would package it separately 02:57 dcook Once Debian have 2.0.60, would we contact the Zebra maint for Ubuntu then? 02:56 rangi most likely its usually pretty close to whatever is in debian testing 02:55 dcook I think 15.04 will have Zebra 2.0.59 as well 02:55 dcook good idea 02:55 eythian should fire up koha on a beta of that 02:54 rangi 15.04 02:54 rangi yep april 02:54 dcook Doesn't Ubuntu drop a new version soon as well? 02:54 dcook That'd be ideal 02:53 eythian yeah, that's quite possible 02:53 dcook Sweeet 02:53 rangi yeah, then we can probably get the zebra maintainer for debian to put the new version in 02:53 dcook I don't think they did anything else in 2.0.60 but that fix 02:53 dcook rangi: yeah, it's just a bugfix 02:53 rangi or did they load in new features as well? 02:53 rangi post freeze, we can agitate to get the new version in, its just bugfix eh? 02:52 eythian Short of packaging a new version myself, it's a tricky one. 02:52 eythian I don't have one. 02:52 dcook What's the plan for Zebra and Jessie? 02:51 rangi yeah 02:51 eythian and jessie release is April 25. 02:51 rangi yeah 02:51 eythian we've got a patch that would require an unreasonable amount of effort to backport modules for 02:51 rangi sounds good to me 02:51 huginn` dcook: The operation succeeded. 02:51 dcook @later tell ashimema Huh... just ran into the DBIx::Connector thing as well... 02:51 eythian OK good. I'm going to push for retiring squeeze and precise for that release. 02:50 rangi argentinian time, so the 23rd for us 02:50 rangi may 22 02:49 eythian rangi: what's the release date (roughly) for 3.20? 01:12 dcook Surprising though.. 01:12 dcook Aha. Indexing issue.. 01:05 dcook A "Main entry" search returns the result... but not "Anywhere", "Heading match", or "Main entry ($a only)". 01:04 dcook No... maybe not 01:04 dcook Ahh, wait. I think I figured it out... sort of. 01:04 dcook eythian: I'm starting to feel some of your authorities pain 01:03 dcook Not too shabby 01:03 huginn` dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 22.0°C (10:30 AM AEST on April 07, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). 01:03 dcook @wunder syd 00:35 eythian dew point of 16° is weird. 00:35 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 21.0°C (12:00 PM NZST on April 07, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling). 00:35 eythian @wunder nzwn 00:08 dcook np 00:08 oa10712 Ok, I will try there next. Thank you 00:08 dcook http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/ 00:08 dcook You might try one of the mailing lists though 00:08 dcook oa10712: No idea. We just use Code39, and that works great. 00:06 eythian it's the right place to ask, I just have no answer for your question. 00:05 oa10712 Are there any known issues with some of the barcode types? Neither of the 2of5 formats have been rendering properly on the .pdfs. Apologies if this is the wrong place to ask