Time  Nick           Message
00:05 oa10712        Are there any known issues with some of the barcode types? Neither of the 2of5 formats have been rendering properly on the .pdfs. Apologies if this is the wrong place to ask
00:06 eythian        it's the right place to ask, I just have no answer for your question.
00:08 dcook          oa10712: No idea. We just use Code39, and that works great.
00:08 dcook          You might try one of the mailing lists though
00:08 dcook          http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
00:08 oa10712        Ok, I will try there next. Thank you
00:08 dcook          np
00:35 eythian        @wunder nzwn
00:35 huginn`        eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 21.0°C (12:00 PM NZST on April 07, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
00:35 eythian        dew point of 16° is weird.
01:03 dcook          @wunder syd
01:03 huginn`        dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 22.0°C (10:30 AM AEST on April 07, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
01:03 dcook          Not too shabby
01:04 dcook          eythian: I'm starting to feel some of your authorities pain
01:04 dcook          Ahh, wait. I think I figured it out... sort of.
01:04 dcook          No... maybe not
01:05 dcook          A "Main entry" search returns the result... but not "Anywhere", "Heading match", or "Main entry ($a only)".
01:12 dcook          Aha. Indexing issue..
01:12 dcook          Surprising though..
02:49 eythian        rangi: what's the release date (roughly) for 3.20?
02:50 rangi          may 22
02:50 rangi          argentinian time, so the 23rd for us
02:51 eythian        OK good. I'm going to push for retiring squeeze and precise for that release.
02:51 dcook          @later tell ashimema Huh... just ran into the DBIx::Connector thing as well...
02:51 huginn`        dcook: The operation succeeded.
02:51 rangi          sounds good to me
02:51 eythian        we've got a patch that would require an unreasonable amount of effort to backport modules for
02:51 rangi          yeah
02:51 eythian        and jessie release is April 25.
02:51 rangi          yeah
02:52 dcook          What's the plan for Zebra and Jessie?
02:52 eythian        I don't have one.
02:52 eythian        Short of packaging a new version myself, it's a tricky one.
02:53 rangi          post freeze, we can agitate to get the new version in, its just bugfix eh?
02:53 rangi          or did they load in new features as well?
02:53 dcook          rangi: yeah, it's just a bugfix
02:53 dcook          I don't think they did anything else in 2.0.60 but that fix
02:53 rangi          yeah, then we can probably get the zebra maintainer for debian to put the new version in
02:53 dcook          Sweeet
02:53 eythian        yeah, that's quite possible
02:54 dcook          That'd be ideal
02:54 dcook          Doesn't Ubuntu drop a new version soon as well?
02:54 rangi          yep april
02:54 rangi          15.04
02:55 eythian        should fire up koha on a beta of that
02:55 dcook          good idea
02:55 dcook          I think 15.04 will have Zebra 2.0.59 as well
02:56 rangi          most likely its usually pretty close to whatever is in debian testing
02:57 dcook          Once Debian have 2.0.60, would we contact the Zebra maint for Ubuntu then?
02:57 dcook          I don't suppose they would package it separately
02:58 eythian        hmm
02:58 eythian        I'm not sure
02:58 rangi          they usually just pull from debian anyway
02:58 eythian        well, they snapshot from unstable
02:59 eythian        yeah, vivid is getting 2.0.59
02:59 eythian        I wouldn't expect debian to update to 2.0.60, but they pay pull in the fix
02:59 eythian        *may
02:59 eythian        even better if someone else does it and attaches a debdiff...
03:00 dcook          debdiff?
03:00 eythian        like a diff, but for debs
03:02 rangi          interestingly
03:02 rangi          vincent danjean
03:02 rangi          was the first person to try to package Koha
03:02 rangi          (the debian maintainer for zebra)
03:02 rangi          http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/i/idzebra/idzebra_2.0.44-3.1/changelog
03:03 rangi          i reckon theres a reasonable chance we could get the fix in
03:04 dcook          It would be great. Otherwise, people using ICU might get a bit of a shock
03:05 dcook          I think eythian already has an open bug report?
03:05 eythian        https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=777515
04:07 rangi          https://twitter.com/MetService/status/585292014079451137
04:07 dcook          Hmm, it went for blue skies to storm to blue skies again here..
04:08 cdickinson     looking at that, it'll stop raining eventually, but yeah, I feel sorry for everyone else here at work haha
04:12 AmitG          hi
04:12 AmitG          rangi
04:15 dcook          Hmm getting that problem that cait pointed out the other day..
04:15 cdickinson     he just left :(
04:16 eythian        dcook: cait points out too many problems for that to be a useful specifier.
04:16 dcook          hehe
04:17 dcook          It was the one about having a problem opening "updatedatabase_2015-04-07T14:16:45.log"
04:17 dcook          It looks like it was just a permission issue
04:17 dcook          Hmm...
04:18 dcook          That might be more of a problem for package installs... this is a git install
04:20 dcook          Hmm... had a time out during the database update as well... but that might be a proxy issue
04:20 eythian        oh yeah
04:20 eythian        I saw that too
04:21 dcook          Hmm... is Apache run as root on Debian?
04:21 dcook          The logs all seem to be owned by root...
04:22 eythian        sorta
04:23 eythian        normally it launches as root and changes to www-data, but we subvert that process in the packages
04:23 dcook          O_o
04:23 dcook          Interesting
04:23 wahanui        rumour has it Interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
04:23 eythian        it launches as root to read things like SSL keys on startup
04:24 eythian        at least, I think that's how it works.
04:24 dcook          Makes sense that it would start off as root and switch
04:24 dcook          How do we subvert it though?
04:24 dcook          Actually, something I've been meaning to try..
04:25 dcook          The help files are in theory editable
04:25 dcook          But I would think that would cause problems with a package install..
04:25 dcook          Well, not necessarily problems, but the sharing of user-generated HTML
04:25 eythian        we have it change to the specific koha user based on the virtual host
04:25 eythian        yeah
04:26 eythian        they either shouldn't be editable, or (better) they should save somewhere so that they only apply to that instance.
04:26 dcook          I like the latter idea :)
04:26 wizzyrea       I suppose it's not a terrible notion to keep the edited help in the db
04:26 wizzyrea       ?
04:26 wizzyrea       and fall back to the templates (or display it in addition)
04:26 eythian        that is probably better
04:27 eythian        messing with the filesystem is always a pain
04:27 wizzyrea       not sure why we did that in the first place :/
04:27 wizzyrea       pretty sure I wasn't involved at the time.
04:27 wizzyrea       :P
04:27 dcook          hehe
04:28 dcook          How do we change the Apache user with the packages?
04:28 dcook          I'm so intrigued now..
04:29 dcook          AssignUserID?
04:30 eythian        it's a feature of MPM-ITK
04:30 eythian        in fact, it's its primary feature
04:30 dcook          That's neat
04:32 dcook          I guess that means that the package installs shouldn't run into that "updatedatabase...log" problem
04:32 dcook          Although I wonder why the intranet-error.log is owned by root rather than my devkoha user
04:33 dcook          I suppose they're probably part of different processes
04:33 dcook          With ErrorLog happening at a higher level than the processes executed using the user designated by AssignUserID
04:34 * dcook        stops rambling
04:34 dcook          This is what happens when I get hungry...
04:34 dcook          Or when I'm breathing..
04:34 eythian        the logs should be owned by the koha user
04:34 eythian        oh
04:35 eythian        maybe not
04:35 eythian        no, mostly owned by root
04:35 eythian        I guess they get opened when the server starts up before it's vhosted
04:38 dcook          Imagine so
04:38 dcook          I wonder then...
04:38 dcook          What the "updatedatabase...log" will be owned by
04:38 eythian        I think I had the problem that it was never created
04:38 eythian        and that's why it was dying.
04:38 dcook          Yeah, that's the problem I had
04:39 dcook          Our Apache runs as its own user though, so when I fixed the permissions for my install, that did the trick
04:39 dcook          But that's a non-package install
04:40 dcook          Might be worth someone installing the master packages and seeing what happens when new database updates come down
04:40 eythian        I don't know what will happen with the packages.
04:40 eythian        though, master packages are in the repo, someone could test them :)
04:40 dcook          True true :)
04:41 dcook          Well, I think they'd need to install the master packages and then need to wait for an update
04:41 eythian        yes, I suppose
04:41 dcook          Unless the atomic update has changed installs as well
04:41 eythian        or just put an old db in
04:42 dcook          Possibly yeah
04:42 dcook          I admit I haven't followed this atomic update thing much
04:44 eythian        I don't think it's actually in place yet is it?
04:45 dcook          It looks like it's in master
04:45 dcook          As that log is part of it
04:45 dcook          The last two entries in mine are:
04:45 dcook          DEV atomic update : hourlyloans.sql
04:45 dcook          DEV atomic update : oai_sets.sql
04:45 dcook          Which... I don't know whether or not they're even supposed to be there
04:45 eythian        oh, very recent
04:46 eythian        hmm
04:46 wizzyrea       that moment when you think to yourself "gosh, it's been a long time since I haven't been able to make THAT work" and then you realise zebra isn't running.
04:46 wizzyrea       derrrrrrr
04:47 eythian        possibly since bug 13068?
04:47 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13068 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , New feature for DB update and sandbox
04:47 dcook          Good ol' Zebra
04:47 eythian        wizzyrea: I do that all the time
04:47 dcook          eythian: Yeah, I think that's the one
04:47 dcook          Hmm, it looks a bit weird
04:47 wizzyrea       believe it or not, that is actually comforting. :P
04:47 eythian        it's why I have on my ES list to give a sensible response if you can't connect to the ES server.
04:47 eythian        rather than "no results"
04:47 wizzyrea       <3
04:47 dcook          hehe
04:47 wizzyrea       my hero
04:47 dcook          eythian++
04:48 wizzyrea       eythian++ for sure
04:48 dcook          I really need to grab a super late lunch...
04:48 dcook          Laters if I don't see you NZers when I get back
04:48 eythian        bye
05:12 eythian        ug virtualbox has stopped working properly for me
05:12 eythian        time to find a new virtualisation system
05:37 dcook          eythian: That doesn't sound good :(
05:37 eythian        and I can't make libvirt work either
05:38 dcook          :(
05:38 dcook          I admit I've been delaying upgrading Vbox as I didn't want to break anything..
05:38 dcook          Not that I use it for anything too important any way though..
05:39 eythian        I'm wondering if the module has got itself into a weird state.
05:39 eythian        I might try rebooting.
05:39 dcook          Not a bad idea
05:39 malik__        Hello to All
05:39 dcook          hey malik__
05:40 malik__        can anyone help me ragarding sms service in koha
05:40 dcook          Alas, I don't know anything about that one.
05:41 dcook          You might have better luck on one of the listservs: http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo
05:41 malik__        i have API of a sms service provider in pakistan but i can't configure it
05:41 malik__        okk let me check
05:49 eythian        ah, that seemed to fix it.
05:50 dcook          :D
05:50 eythian        I probably could have fixed that without a reboot actually, it just didn't give me useful error messages to diagnose the problem.
05:50 eythian        I think a kernel update had removed stuff so that new vms couldn't start.
05:52 dcook          Yeah, sometimes I debate the merits of restarting vs finding the root problem..
05:52 dcook          Well, think about debating :p
05:52 eythian        probably all it would have needed was to reinstall the dkms module and do a restart on the service
05:58 malik___       can anyone help me ragarding sms service in koha
05:59 malik___       in Pakistan
06:00 * magnuse      waves
06:00 dcook          hey magnuse :)
06:00 eythian        hi magnuse
06:00 magnuse        hiya dcook
06:01 magnuse        kia ora eythian
06:02 magnuse        eythian: about the covers enh, rangi says "still being tested/refined patches submitted soon" :-)
06:02 dcook          :D
06:02 eythian        ah cool.
06:05 eythian        @wunder nzwn
06:05 huginn`        eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0°C (5:30 PM NZST on April 07, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
06:05 eythian        light rain my butt
06:06 eythian        which I'd brought a jacket
06:06 magnuse        @wunder boo
06:06 huginn`        magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 6.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on April 07, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.70 in 1006 hPa (Rising).
06:06 magnuse        spring is here, someone just forgot to turn on the heat...
06:06 magnuse        @wunder marseille
06:06 huginn`        magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 5.1°C (7:58 AM CEST on April 07, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Rising).
06:06 magnuse        hah!
06:06 eythian        I think we still have your heat here.
06:07 dcook          @wunder syd
06:07 huginn`        dcook: The current temperature in Bardwell Park, Sydney, New South Wales is 19.2°C (4:07 PM AEST on April 07, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
06:07 eythian        not willing to give it back
06:07 dcook          ^
06:07 eythian        pfft, you win due to rounding!
06:10 dcook          hehe
06:10 dcook          It was pretty warm out there
06:10 dcook          I think I was actually sweating when I got back from lunch
06:10 eythian        at least you don't have 94% humidity.
06:10 eythian        I blame daylight saving going away.
06:10 dcook          That's true
06:10 eythian        that's clearly messed with the weather.
06:10 dcook          People always say it's so humid here, but I think they might be wrong..
06:11 dcook          heh
06:11 dcook          Reminds me of last night
06:11 dcook          I was all "It's 6pm! Where did the sun go?!"
06:11 * dcook        comes from the land of no daylight savings time
06:11 eythian        heh
06:16 magnuse        we have been saying to our son all through winter "look, it's dark outside, time to go to bed". during easter he started notcing that it is no longer dark when we tell him it is time to go to bed...
06:18 eythian        OK, now I have a jessie VM for testing koha on. I think it's time to go brave the elements and actually do the testing tomorrow.
06:18 eythian        later
06:18 dcook          :D
06:18 dcook          later eythian
06:18 dcook          magnuse: uh oh!
06:27 magnuse        dcook: time to teach him how a clock works :-)
06:32 magnuse        kia ora Viktor
06:33 Viktor         Kia ora Magnuse!
06:34 magnuse        sweden++ for creating awesome music
06:35 magnuse        wizzyrea++ for volunteering as rmaint
07:00 magnuse        kia ora ashimema
07:25 Joubu          Morning #koha
07:28 nlegrand       Ooh! Aah! #koha!
07:29 * magnuse      waves
07:33 magnuse        kia ora cait
07:33 magnuse        oh i forgot cait++ for awesome qa
07:34 cait           not sure it's awesome - we will see when the devs have read the comments
07:34 kivilahtio     does anybody know what is the status regarding this http://bywatersolutions.com/2015/03/24/koha-fund-volunteers/?
07:35 kivilahtio     have the sub-committee members been nominated already?
07:35 cait           there is a wiki page
07:35 cait           i think 4? or so have signed up
07:35 cait           and we got irc meeting on wednesday - i think bag or BobB might give us an updae then
07:36 cait           hm today is april 7th
07:36 kivilahtio     so tomorrow
07:38 gaetan_B       hello
07:39 kivilahtio     hello
07:39 wahanui        salut, kivilahtio
07:39 kivilahtio     wahanui: my friend!
07:39 wahanui        kivilahtio: sorry...
07:40 cait           hm yeah but also the deadline should be over - that bag wrote in the blog post
07:40 kivilahtio     cait: so it seems
07:40 kivilahtio     I guess we wil lsee tomorrow
07:41 cait           yep guess so
07:54 magnuse        http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_8_April_2015
08:48 andreashm      hi #koha
08:59 andreashm      hey magnuse!
08:59 wahanui        hmmm... magnuse is a Norwegian giant.
08:59 andreashm      haha
08:59 magnuse        :-)
09:04 andreashm      is there a way to automatically generate invoices for lost books in Koha? anyone know?
09:09 sophie_m       longoverdues.pl ? andreashm
09:13 andreashm      sophie_m: doesn't that just generate a fee? not an invoice? I need to look more closely at that script.
09:14 sophie_m       yes, it's a fee, sorry
09:20 cait           hm would be a good enh to also generate a notice there i
09:22 andreashm      yeah
09:23 andreashm      so the only way to create invoices in Koha for late/lost books is to do it manually?
09:51 cait           right now, yes
09:51 cait           i think it would be not too hard maybe to have a new notice, but not sure
09:53 andreashm      thanks cait
09:55 andreashm      but how to other libraries handle invoicing, even manually? do they generate the lost books report and go by that on what to invoice, or is there some other smart way to generate list of what books to invoice? =)
09:55 cait           hm i think one way might be an sql report and then generate a letter with an office suite
09:55 kivilahtio     andreashm: I have some code lying around
09:56 kivilahtio     andreashm: lemme just think a bit on what you are trying to achieve
09:56 kivilahtio     andreashm: I am currently working on rewriting the overdue and claiming module we have
09:57 kivilahtio     andreashm: There are some critical issue in the way Koha handles 3rd party integrations and I am trying to find a way around them
09:57 cait           Joubu: close to the tax patches now :)
09:57 kivilahtio     maunly handling situations gone wrong
09:59 andreashm      kivilahtio: at the moment, in our old prop. system, we run a report on books that have recently been marked as lost (long overdue) and then invoices are automatically generated. so we can then send them via email or snail mail. there are to many to handle manually.
09:59 andreashm      (or, it can be done of course, but would require a lot of hours of work)
09:59 Joubu          cait: :)
10:01 cait           i'd really like to find someone for the sip emulator and the syspref caching...
10:02 andreashm      cait: yeah, an sql report might be the answer. and then we could probably fix the invoice generating and sendout in our Viola system. but other libraries in Sweden have asked about this feature too, and I was hoping something was built into Koha.
10:03 cait           andreashm: i'd encourage you to look in bugzila and write an enh request :)
10:03 cait           if there isn't one yet
10:03 andreashm      cait: I'll do just that - search bugzilla atleast.
10:08 kivilahtio     andreashm: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Overdues_module_rewrite_RFC
10:16 andreashm      kivilahtio: thanks. but won'tsome of that clash with http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Overdue_Notice_Enhancement
10:16 andreashm      ?
10:17 cait           kivilahtio: hm, not sure, does it cover the lost item process? (what happens after the overdues) yet?
10:20 andreashm_away of for lunch, bbl
10:20 kivilahtio     cait: we have a cronjobs for setting items to lost status?
10:20 cait           yep
10:20 cait           longoverdue i think
10:20 cait           we don't use that yet, but it's a rather old one
10:21 cait           oh it has pictures now - i have to reread the spec
10:21 kivilahtio     yup, it looks pretty nice
10:23 cait           longoverdues? it recently got a bunch of confguration options as system preferences
10:27 cait           meh - is it possible that for calculating the pickup date we don't check the holidays calendar?
10:28 cait           yep... it totally looks like that is the case
10:35 kivilahtio     cait: yes
10:36 kivilahtio     cait: I think we have a commit for that somewhere
10:39 cait           found it 12535
10:39 cait           ah sorry
10:39 cait           ug 12353
10:39 cait           bug 12353
10:39 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12353 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, In Discussion , Reserves last pickup date needs to respect holidays, and everybody need to know the last pickup date for reserves, even notices.
10:39 cait           guess it's stuck
12:46 tcohen         morning...
12:49 octo19         Hello. How do I force an update of the Koha library via CLI? I want to make a cron job that updates every minute.
12:51 tcohen         you mean have your records indexed?
12:52 octo19         yes
12:53 tcohen         how did you get your Koha instlaled?
12:53 tcohen         what instructions did you follow?
12:54 octo19         I inherited our current system. I have no idea how it was installed. I can tell you it is version 3.12 and running in openSUSE 12.3.
12:55 octo19         I am trying to update koha and openSUSE but the readout keeps telling me everything is outdated so it can't update.
12:57 tcohen         can't you install ubuntu?
12:57 octo19         Sure, but I need the database we already have to transfer
12:57 tcohen         you are looking for a cron configuration running the indexer
12:57 octo19         is that easy?
12:57 octo19         yes I am
12:57 tcohen         it is really easy
12:58 tcohen         to move koha to another box
12:58 octo19         Koha recommends Debian, but I know more about Ubuntu. Is one easier than the other?
12:59 tcohen         they are both the same
12:59 tcohen         regarding the install procedure
12:59 octo19         I want to have a system with little-to-no user involvement.
13:00 nlegrand       octo19: I'm a bit puzzled, you're looking to update the software or the search engine indexation?
13:00 tcohen         http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages
13:00 octo19         Currently our koha system is running in a VM
13:00 tcohen         follow that ^^^^^^
13:00 tcohen         to get an instance created
13:00 tcohen         once you figure how to do it
13:01 tcohen         just delete its database
13:01 tcohen         and put a dump from the old one
13:01 tcohen         instead
13:01 octo19         nlegrand i need to both, but my initial question was to update the index.
13:02 octo19         tcohen ah so adding the debian repo to ubuntu will make everything run smoothly?
13:02 tcohen         exactly
13:02 akafred        (I would say debian is a little bit less hassle.)
13:02 nlegrand       octo19: ok :) did you check the crontab of the unix account dedicated to koha ?
13:02 tcohen         please pick 14.04
13:03 tcohen         or debian 7, which is on top of which Koha is usully tested
13:03 octo19         akafred less of a hassle to run or install?
13:03 akafred        install
13:04 octo19         nlegrand yes i checked the user and root crontabs
13:04 tcohen         the only difference is that Ubuntu 14.04 ships with apache 2.4 in which you'd need to run a command from the appendix before doing the koha-common install
13:05 tcohen         http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages#Some_difficulties_were_encountered_installing_apache2-mpm-itk.
13:06 octo19         what version of apache do i need for koha?
13:06 octo19         or does it matter?
13:08 tcohen         octo19: don't worry about that
13:08 tcohen         follow the instructions and you are safe
13:08 tcohen         if you feel like trying debian
13:08 tcohen         http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Debian
13:09 tcohen         follow that, which have been updated recently
13:09 octo19         great.
13:09 octo19         tcohen thanks for the tips!
13:14 cait           tcohen++
13:31 magnuse        tcohen++
14:17 cait           Joubu++ fixing all the bugs
14:34 cait           Joubu: maybe you could take a look at bug 13957? i think it might be related to the recent changes for patron search
14:34 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13957 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Patron autocomplete shows NULL in list of results
14:35 cait           but... there are lots of bugs to pick from... /me has a bug filing day today
14:35 cait           searching bugzilla can make you a bit paranoid about bugs :)
14:40 Joubu          cait: will have a lookg
14:42 cait           filing the suggestions/bugs that came up during our user meeting a few weeks ago (finally)
14:52 cait           Joubu++ super fast :)
14:54 cait           Joubu: there is a similar bug in acq - int he table of received items
14:54 cait           all the empty fields go null
14:55 cait           bug 10388
14:55 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10388 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , acq edited items showing 'null's
14:57 cait           :)
14:58 Joubu          cait: I don't reproduce this one
14:58 cait           hmm did you edit the item?
14:58 Joubu          but on the screenshot, barcode is "null" on the first row, but "" on the second
14:58 cait           using the edit link on the recieve page
14:58 cait           it happens when you edit it, for example to add the barcode label
14:58 Joubu          no..., trying again
14:59 Joubu          ok got it :)
14:59 cait           sorry for feeding you with bugs :) just thought if this is similar might be an easy one now
15:00 Joubu          yep, should be easy to fix too
15:10 gaetan_B       bye
16:31 misilot        With the patron import, if I want to blank out passwords can I sent NULL in the csv import file?
16:32 cait           just leave it empty
16:32 cait           ''
16:33 cait           and the passwrod field should have a ! later i think - indictaing there is no password set
16:33 misilot        cait: ok thanks. Trying to build the template to hand to another department to get user loads
16:39 misilot        are streetnumber and streettype actually used? I don't see them in the edit user, so just curious
16:44 cait           streettype appears when you cnfigure them in the admin area
16:44 misilot        cait: ah ok thank you
16:44 cait           streetnumber should be visible - but maybe check borrowerunwantedfields of you don't see it
16:45 misilot        cait: yup it is hidden. thanks for answering my curiosity :)
16:47 misilot        dateenrolled should get auto populated on import?
16:48 cait           it will be set automatically with today's date if not in your data
16:48 misilot        ok thanks
16:50 misilot        that's great :) lots of records will be updated once I get this working :)
16:50 cait           be careful - if you want to update a borrower with the passwords
16:51 cait           i think they might be overriden/set to null if you have the column in the spreadsheet
16:51 cait           I'd test with a single borrower
16:51 misilot        I want them to be cleared, since we will be using LDAP or CAS for authentication of our users
16:51 cait           loading new patrons is easy... updating existing ones is a bit more tricky in my experience
16:51 cait           ah
16:51 cait           all good then
16:51 cait           have to leave, bye all
16:51 misilot        bye and thank you cait
16:51 cait           np :)
17:56 * magnuse      waves
18:17 * magnuse      waves at cait
18:25 * magnuse      gets ignored by cait
18:25 barton|lunch   afternoon, cait
18:26 barton         cait: I wonder if you could take another look at http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6499 ?
18:26 huginn`        04Bug 6499: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, barton, Failed QA , MARC21 035 -- Other-control-number --  Indexing & Matching
18:39 barton         @seen cait
18:39 huginn`        barton: cait was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 47 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <cait> np :)
18:43 cait           was cooking dinner
18:44 cait           not sure when i will get to it barton - maybe reset to needs signoff with a note for now?
18:44 tcohen         @later tell rangi would you join me on a talk with randal schwartz?
18:44 huginn`        tcohen: The operation succeeded.
18:49 magnuse        tjänare Viktor
18:50 Viktor         Hej magnuse :)
18:51 magnuse        tcohen: i think rangi said he would probably not find time for it, but worth another shot :-)
18:53 barton         cait: will do, thanks.
18:53 * tcohen       knows magnuse
18:53 cait           asking for another tester
18:53 tcohen         I'm giving a shot
18:54 * tcohen       needs to set a date
18:54 cait           hm?
18:54 cait           now you got me curious :)
19:19 magnuse        tcohen: awesome to see koha and you on the list of upcoming guests :-)
19:21 barton         cait: I updated bug 6499, including a new test procedure and some notes about some 'gotchas' that I've run into along the way.
19:21 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6499 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, barton, Needs Signoff , MARC21 035 -- Other-control-number --  Indexing & Matching
19:33 wnickc         hi all
19:38 tcohen         bye #koha
19:45 cait           barton: cool
19:56 cait           khall_away: around?
20:02 * cait         waves
20:04 pianohacker    Hi #koha
20:07 barton         hi pianohacker!
20:08 pianohacker    heh, hi barton
20:10 TGoat          @later tell druthb_away to please call Todd from ByWater @ 775-335-7940. Thanks
20:10 huginn`        TGoat: The operation succeeded.
20:11 bag            hey TGoat she may not write anything in channel as druthb_away - probably better to leave that as druthb instead
20:11 TGoat          thanks!
20:12 TGoat          @later tell druthb to please call Todd from ByWater @ 775-335-7940. Thanks
20:12 huginn`        TGoat: The operation succeeded.
20:22 * cait         waves
21:05 cait           wow
21:05 cait           what happened to the manual?
21:06 cait           pretty!
21:08 pianohacker    yeah, that's cool. I like the layout
21:12 barton         if I want to report a bug regarding koha-gitify, how do I categorize that? Installer? Tools?
21:14 cait           it seems like some got reported on github
21:14 cait           https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify/issues
21:16 wizzyrea       barton: do it on github.
21:16 wizzyrea       no one will see it in our bz.
21:16 wizzyrea       koha gitify is a separate project to koha. Just like kohadevbox.
21:17 barton         gotcha.
21:37 barton         wizzyrea: https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify/issues/4
21:38 wizzyrea       yep, feel free to submit a patch too, if you like.
21:38 barton         nod.
21:39 wizzyrea       please tell me you're not trying to use gitify in production.
21:40 barton         no, but it's still pain to have all of the zebra indexes break in test environments.
21:40 wizzyrea       good because that would be nuts.
21:41 barton         wizzyrea: didn't you know that all of the bywater folk were a bit touched?
21:41 barton         ;-)
21:41 * wizzyrea     pleads ignorance
21:41 barton         lol
22:32 eythian        hi
22:32 wahanui        que tal, eythian
23:07 * dcook        waves
23:14 eythian        hi dcook
23:15 dcook          heya eythian