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dcook |
gmcharlt++ |
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twb |
I have a koha 3.14.09 server set up by some subcontractor, on debian 7. I belatedly applied some security upgrades, and now I'm getting an email from cron that I don't know how to deal with. |
| 03:11 |
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twb |
http://sprunge.us/QIei |
| 03:12 |
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eythian |
you probably don't have mysql running |
| 03:12 |
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eythian |
sudo service mysql-server restart |
| 03:12 |
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eythian |
or something along those lines |
| 03:12 |
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eythian |
oh, just mysql, not mysql-server |
| 03:13 |
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twb |
OK thanks, trying that now |
| 03:13 |
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eythian |
it probably went down for the updates, and for some reason didn't start up again. |
| 03:13 |
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eythian |
I would also expect that your koha isn't working, with the same error |
| 03:14 |
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twb |
I can see mysql running in ps |
| 03:14 |
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twb |
I'll restart its service for good measure |
| 03:14 |
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twb |
http://sprunge.us/ReAJ is that "corrupt" line normal? I am used to postgres. |
| 03:15 |
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rangi |
thats fine, it checks everytime |
| 03:15 |
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twb |
OK, lemme try to remember how to get to koha... |
| 03:16 |
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rangi |
you can check /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ |
| 03:16 |
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twb |
OK I just ran "koha-rebuild-zebra -q k1" as root by hand and that didn't give an error. |
| 03:17 |
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twb |
Maybe it was just that the cron job happened to run partway through the upgrade earlier |
| 03:17 |
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rangi |
most likely |
| 03:17 |
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eythian |
that is quite possible |
| 03:18 |
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twb |
OK I will stop freaking out :-) |
| 03:18 |
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rangi |
speaking of upgrades, one day in the future you'll want to upgrade koha itself too :) |
| 03:18 |
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rangi |
but id do that on a test server first |
| 03:18 |
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rangi |
3.14.09 is fairly old now |
| 03:18 |
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twb |
har har test server |
| 03:19 |
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twb |
The site only has one librarian and they really only use it for OPAC, so koha doesn't get much love |
| 03:19 |
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rangi |
3.14.x is still maintained but only for a few more months |
| 03:19 |
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twb |
I'll mention it to $boss |
| 03:19 |
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rangi |
however there have been a couple of security releases since 3.14.09 .. the latest is 3.14.13 |
| 03:20 |
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twb |
OK |
| 03:20 |
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rangi |
we usually maintain each major release for 18mths |
| 03:21 |
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rangi |
so we currently have 3.14, 3.16, and 3.18 being supported |
| 03:21 |
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rangi |
(we do six monthly feature releases and monthly(ish) maintenance ones) |
| 03:21 |
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rangi |
when 3.20 comes out in may, 3.14.x will be out of support |
| 03:21 |
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rangi |
hope that makes some sense |
| 03:26 |
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twb |
Yeah, no worries |
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mtj |
hey, remember how the 'opacsmallimage' syspref was removed from boostrap.. |
| 04:48 |
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mtj |
ive attempted to add that style into a koha |
| 04:49 |
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mtj |
i wonder if its worth adding a working version back into koha? |
| 04:52 |
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mtj |
my version is a bit hacky, atm - but basically seems to handle the responseive stuff ok |
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eythian |
@wunder nzwn |
| 05:48 |
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eythian |
oh |
| 05:48 |
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eythian |
missing huginn |
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dcook |
:O |
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drojf |
morning |
| 06:51 |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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magnuse |
eythian still around? |
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magnuse |
kia ora cait |
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drojf |
hei magnuse |
| 06:58 |
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magnuse |
moin drojf |
| 07:01 |
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* dcook |
waves |
| 07:03 |
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magnuse |
hiya dcook! |
| 07:03 |
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magnuse |
time to pack up, eh? |
| 07:03 |
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dcook |
You know it! |
| 07:03 |
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dcook |
Late in this morning due to long post office lines |
| 07:04 |
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dcook |
Have a system going live tomorrow as well so last minute touch ups.. |
| 07:04 |
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magnuse |
ah, cool! |
| 07:04 |
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magnuse |
fingers crossed! |
| 07:04 |
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dcook |
:) |
| 07:12 |
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* magnuse |
will probably finish a migration this week too |
| 07:12 |
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magnuse |
waiting for the old system to export the data |
| 07:15 |
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dcook |
\o/ |
| 07:15 |
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* dcook |
is not debating whether to go to the gym or play on computers at home after spending 9 hours on computers at work |
| 07:15 |
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dcook |
is now debating* :p |
| 07:18 |
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drojf |
are there compters at the gym? |
| 07:18 |
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drojf |
*compters |
| 07:18 |
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drojf |
orrr |
| 07:18 |
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* drojf |
goes back to bed |
| 07:19 |
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dcook |
It would be sweet if we could train while programming... |
| 07:19 |
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dcook |
The body works out, and the brain does the programming :D |
| 07:19 |
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dcook |
I could see that leading to some sort of weird split personality thing though... |
| 07:19 |
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magnuse |
i have heard of people who have those walking machines in front of their desks... |
| 07:20 |
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dcook |
I occasionally go on my phone when I'm doing legs :p |
| 07:20 |
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dcook |
But need to focus a bit more when running or using arms |
| 07:20 |
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magnuse |
google for "walk desk" |
| 07:22 |
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liw |
http://lifehacker.com/linus-to[…]-3d-pr-1617261060 |
| 07:22 |
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dcook |
Oh, I was just thinking of you, liw! |
| 07:23 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 07:24 |
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dcook |
The regular hours thing is interesting |
| 07:26 |
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dcook |
Oh man... yeah I still have hard disks from 2002... |
| 07:37 |
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drojf |
any reason why koha-gitify would not work on jessie? |
| 07:38 |
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magnuse |
can't think of any |
| 07:38 |
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magnuse |
what happens? |
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drojf |
oh. it's a lot of 403 forbidden errors when i try to open koha |
| 07:40 |
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reiveune |
hello |
| 07:40 |
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wahanui |
salut, reiveune |
| 07:41 |
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magnuse |
bonjour reiveune |
| 07:41 |
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magnuse |
drojf: that sounds weird |
| 07:41 |
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drojf |
sounds like wrong permissions |
| 07:42 |
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cait |
bbiab |
| 07:50 |
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drojf |
i chmodded all to 755 in the dev directory, did not help though. i can't recall having this before and that was as much patience as i can bring up on a monday morning |
| 07:53 |
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magnuse |
if you create a regular instance, does that have the same symptoms? |
| 07:53 |
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magnuse |
or is it just the gitified instance? |
| 07:54 |
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drojf |
no regular instance worked fine and after gitify it#s broken |
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drojf |
oh, maybe this http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]eturns_403_errors |
| 08:03 |
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alex_a |
Bonjour |
| 08:03 |
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wahanui |
hello, alex_a |
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drojf |
yep. fixed |
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sophie_m |
hi #koha |
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fridolin |
hie all |
| 08:13 |
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drojf |
i would have put it on the wiki, but i fail to see what page it would go on, as we have something between two and hundred different pages dealing with git/dev setups but gitify is only mentioned for ubuntu |
| 08:13 |
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drojf |
and i don't have time to fix all the wiki pages that annoy me |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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drojf |
hi marcelr |
| 08:22 |
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marcelr |
:) |
| 08:24 |
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drojf |
mirko jessie:~/koha$ sudo PERL5LIB=/home/mirko/koha KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/sites/koha/koha-conf.xml perl misc/search_tools/rebuild_elastic_search.pl -v -d |
| 08:24 |
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drojf |
Indexing biblios |
| 08:24 |
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drojf |
978 records indexed. |
| 08:24 |
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* drojf |
sqeaks |
| 08:24 |
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drojf |
squeaks even |
| 08:25 |
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drojf |
what's wrong with my 'u'? :/ |
| 08:25 |
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drojf |
eythian++ #elasticsearch |
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| 08:27 |
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drojf |
so, now that i have that working elasticsearch branch, what is the fun part about it? |
| 08:27 |
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magnuse |
drojf: that it looks and works as identical to zebra as possible |
| 08:28 |
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magnuse |
;-) |
| 08:28 |
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cait |
oh you got it orking? |
| 08:28 |
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magnuse |
drojf++ eythian++ |
| 08:28 |
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drojf |
magnuse: meh :P |
| 08:28 |
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cait |
Joubu: did you see bug 13836? |
| 08:28 |
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drojf |
cait: yes. only took like all yesterday evening and and some more this morning ;) |
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cait |
drojf: heh |
| 08:29 |
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drojf |
but i had to start from scratch installing a jessie vm and all |
| 08:36 |
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drojf |
searching for 'house': with zebra 17 result, with elasticsearch 8 |
| 08:37 |
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drojf |
looks like es only searches the title |
| 08:40 |
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cait |
ah |
| 08:40 |
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cait |
yeah i guess there isa lot to test and find |
| 08:42 |
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magnuse |
yeah, it's early days |
| 08:42 |
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magnuse |
i guess part of the attraction is that once the basics are working, future tweaking will be easier and have more documentation |
| 08:43 |
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drojf |
the mapping looks really handy, compared to what you have to do with zebra. (at least if it's really only the sql i am looking at right now) |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
| 09:09 |
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wahanui |
hello, gaetan_B |
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cait |
marcelr: good to know it's not only me |
| 09:18 |
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cait |
marcelr: problem with the web installer |
| 09:18 |
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marcelr |
hi cait |
| 09:19 |
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cait |
@later tell ashimema could you take another look at bug 13531 - i am not sure if i tested correctly |
| 09:19 |
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cait |
aaah no huginn |
| 09:20 |
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magnuse |
who do we poke? |
| 09:20 |
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cait |
hm not sure maybe gmcharlt |
| 09:20 |
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magnuse |
yes, according to http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars |
| 09:20 |
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magnuse |
bots? |
| 09:20 |
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wahanui |
http://youtu.be/B1BdQcJ2ZYY |
| 09:21 |
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ashimema |
bug 13531 |
| 09:21 |
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ashimema |
ack.. no huggin |
| 09:22 |
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cait |
morning ashimema |
| 09:22 |
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cait |
i am also looking for someone to qa the sip patches |
| 09:22 |
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wahanui |
okay, cait. |
| 09:22 |
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cait |
those are a bit stuck (as usual) |
| 09:22 |
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ashimema |
morning cait |
| 09:23 |
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cait |
bug 13411 for example |
| 09:23 |
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cait |
written by khall, tested by bensinober |
| 09:24 |
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ashimema |
it's still crazy times here i'm afraid cait.. |
| 09:24 |
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magnuse |
bensinober++ |
| 09:24 |
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ashimema |
I'm struggling to fit everything in :( |
| 09:24 |
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cait |
i understand, just throwing that out there |
| 09:24 |
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magnuse |
yeah, let ashimema focus on ill ;-) |
| 09:24 |
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ashimema |
I'll try to get colin to squeeze it in. |
| 09:24 |
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cait |
thx |
| 09:24 |
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cait |
i'd be ok to pass qa if colin says it's fine |
| 09:24 |
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ashimema |
alex is my ILL man.. i've bascially left it to him for aobut 2 months now magnuse.. |
| 09:25 |
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cait |
he did a good job at the hackfest :) |
| 09:25 |
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ashimema |
right now I'm still on cash management, online payments and our other product rebus:list |
| 09:25 |
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cait |
presenting it |
| 09:25 |
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ashimema |
:) |
| 09:25 |
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ashimema |
the work is going fast on it.. |
| 09:25 |
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ashimema |
we've got bugs coming in thick and fast on our github repo and he's fixing them as fast as his fingers can type code ;) |
| 09:26 |
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cait |
:) |
| 09:26 |
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cait |
hope the fingers don't catch fire then |
| 09:26 |
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ashimema |
:) |
| 09:27 |
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ashimema |
did he submit an RFC yet? |
| 09:27 |
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ashimema |
I can't remember.. |
| 09:27 |
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cait |
yep |
| 09:27 |
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ashimema |
I know I still need to do one for cash man |
| 09:29 |
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ashimema |
dbic is awesome.. we should really be using it to it's potential :( |
| 09:29 |
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ashimema |
the more I use it in my other project the more powerful I realise it is.. |
| 09:33 |
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magnuse |
yeah alex seems do be doing a fine job on the ill |
| 09:34 |
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magnuse |
http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/ILL_Module |
| 09:35 |
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ashimema |
He's a real asset to my team.. can't sing his praises enough :) |
| 09:35 |
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ashimema |
very lucky to have him |
| 09:35 |
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cait |
atheia++ |
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magnuse |
yeah atheia++ |
| 09:41 |
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magnuse |
and great timing too ;-) |
| 09:41 |
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cait |
he must have sensed us talking about him :) |
| 09:42 |
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atheia |
Yeah, I don't know how that happened :-) |
| 09:42 |
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atheia |
G'morning:-) |
| 09:42 |
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cait |
good morning :) |
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magnuse |
tjänare Viktor! |
| 10:01 |
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magnuse |
hired a koha hacker yet? ;-) |
| 10:01 |
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Viktor |
Hej Magnuse |
| 10:02 |
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Viktor |
Not yet :) But I've had at least one engineer (civilingenjör - don't know the english title) who has declared he will apply |
| 10:02 |
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Viktor |
I do of course hope to have so many great candidates to chose from that it will be a bother :) |
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mveron |
Hi #koha |
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atheia |
morning mveron |
| 10:27 |
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mveron |
Hi atheia |
| 10:28 |
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cait |
mveron: i think that might be it - ch vs. de |
| 10:28 |
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mveron |
cait: I'm testing... :-) |
| 10:46 |
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mveron |
cait: I tested with locale set to de_DE.UTF-8, prove t/Prices.t passes. |
| 10:54 |
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cait |
marcelr: did yu see the alllowonshelfholds bug? |
| 10:54 |
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marcelr |
which one? |
| 10:54 |
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wahanui |
i think which one is that? The fixed navbar? |
| 10:54 |
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cait |
marcelr: bug 5786 |
| 10:54 |
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cait |
bit different to your dev, but it will allwo to set opacitemholds in the circ matrix - so force item level holds by itemtype |
| 10:54 |
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marcelr |
passed qa.. |
| 10:54 |
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wahanui |
passed qa is the queue jcamins should watch |
| 10:54 |
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cait |
yeah this one has a long story |
| 10:55 |
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cait |
but it seems working very well now |
| 10:55 |
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cait |
i think it's really a good and needed enh |
| 10:55 |
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marcelr |
ok |
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marcelr |
i will wait with my report 13839 |
| 10:56 |
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cait |
i really miss huginn |
| 10:56 |
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cait |
gmcharlt: ping? |
| 10:56 |
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wahanui |
Using deft allegory, the authors have provided an insightful and intuitive explanation of one of Unix's most venerable networking utilities. http://www.amazon.com/Story-ab[…]oks/dp/0448421658 |
| 10:58 |
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cait |
... does someone know how to differentiate between sammelwerk and zeitschrift by chance? |
| 10:59 |
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drojf |
is sammelwerk an english word? :) |
| 10:59 |
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cait |
no :) |
| 11:00 |
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cait |
serial and traced series? :) |
| 11:00 |
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cait |
but it's ok... I am investigating |
| 11:00 |
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drojf |
i bet marc has a nice letter somewhere hidden in a control field ;) |
| 11:00 |
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cait |
that's my hope |
| 11:01 |
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cait |
and i also hope it's indexed.... might not be so ucky there |
| 11:02 |
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drojf |
but do you mean something like herausgeberschrift by sammelwerk? or something else? |
| 11:03 |
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cait |
mehr sowas wie eine gezähte reihe |
| 11:03 |
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cait |
im unterschied zu einer zeitschrift |
| 11:03 |
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cait |
sorry, i am language confused today |
| 11:03 |
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drojf |
:D |
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cait |
008 - for serials - pos 21 - type of continuing resource |
| 11:05 |
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cait |
not indexed |
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drojf |
monographic series vs. periodical? |
| 11:06 |
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cait |
hm yeah seems so |
| 11:06 |
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drojf |
do the index in elasticsearch ;) |
| 11:06 |
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cait |
the xslt checks for != m |
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kivilahtio |
cait: can you check Bug 12671 for everybodys sake |
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cait |
it's on my list |
| 11:09 |
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cait |
but i try to work through them bugs first then enh by age |
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cait |
lunch time |
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gaetan_B |
bye! |
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jcamins |
cait: 008/21 |
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tcohen |
morning! |
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magnuse |
¡hola tcohen! |
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tcohen |
hola magnuse |
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tcohen |
cait: around? |
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cait |
here now |
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cait |
jcamins: thx :) |
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hi sophie_m |
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hi tcohen |
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chris_n |
tcohen: what data does jenkins run tests over? |
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chris_n |
anyone else know? |
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goes off in search of a donut |
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cait |
chris_n: i think all the sample data from the web installer |
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cait |
maybe some more than that, but that shoudl give you the basics |
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chris_n |
cait: I just did a fresh install with the sample data, but it appears to have no biblios or items |
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* chris_n |
wonders what he did wrong |
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chris_n |
those tables are empty |
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cait |
i thik that's correct |
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cait |
some of the tests create records/items |
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cait |
did you see the newer tests in db_dependent? they create the data in a transaction that is rolled back in the end |
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cait |
it makes things quite easy |
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cait |
no need to clean up after your tests |
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chris_n |
cool, thanks |
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* chris_n |
hands cait a donut |
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cait |
Reserves.t should have some examples i think |
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tcohen |
chris_n: it uses a clean database with all the sample data |
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kivilahtio |
Does anybody know a good module for comparing two objects for sameness? eg. thay have the same array and hash values? |
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kivilahtio |
and same object class? |
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kivilahtio |
a bit like java Comparable? |
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kivilahtio |
I guess I could add a subroutine to Koha::Object to do that |
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kivilahtio |
but I would rather not hack it on my own |
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kivilahtio |
hmm got it http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=121559 |
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fridolin |
sse u |
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fridolin |
(see u) |
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mveron |
Bye #koha |
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chris_n |
tcohen: tnx |
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tcohen |
kivilahtio: you could check what is_deeply does |
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kivilahtio |
Test::Deep is very good |
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kivilahtio |
tcohen: thanks for the tip! |
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bag |
morning all |
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drojf |
looks like there haven't been much nominations http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Fundraising |
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drojf |
oh the meeting is in two days, i thought was tomorrow. plenty of time then |
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Joubu |
tcohen, cait: Is the issue with permissions solved? |
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Joubu |
(and Hi #koha!) |
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cait |
Joubu: hm don't think so |
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cait |
Joubu: marcelr ran into the ame problem it looks like |
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tcohen |
Joubu: i've been on another stuff today, sorry |
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barton |
good $TIME_OF_DAY koha! |
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barton |
I just tried and failed to import a marc file under head (3.19.00.016) ... it tells me that the records imported correctly and are staged, but when I click on the 'manage staged records' link, the filename is blank, there are no staged records displayed, and the import_batches hasn't been updated. |
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cait |
ew |
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barton |
cait yeah. that was my reaction too. |
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barton |
morning bag! |
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bag |
morning barton |
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jeff |
WRITE "Good "; GREETING_TIME; ", "; LOGIN_NAME |
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barton |
cait: I just tested a khoadevbox that I brought up a couple of days ago -- I was able to import the same file under 3.19.00.013 |
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barton |
.. I'm going to upgrade that instance to HEAD and see if I run into the same issue, just to prove that it's not a configuration thing. |
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cait |
barton: sounds good |
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barton |
well ... s/HEAD/master/ |
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reiveune |
bye |
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drojf |
how is the order of available languages determined in the opac? |
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cait |
drojf: hm i thimk it's the sequence from the pref |
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drojf |
it looks like that, but how is the sequence from the pref determined then? :) |
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drojf |
it's neithr alphabetical (name or code) nor order of installation |
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drojf |
*neither |
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cait |
i think it amends/removes or something |
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cait |
i think it's a comma separated string |
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cait |
bbiab |
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barton|lunch |
cait: I finally got a chance to test marc import 3.19.00.016 -- it worked fine... so it looks like a configuation issue of some sort. |
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drojf |
i think they are ordered by 'quality'. whatever that may be. completeness. what a weird way to sort |
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drojf |
or maybe that is something different |
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okay I have to run out . bbiab |
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* magnuse |
gives the evening wave |
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* barton |
takes note of 'the evening wave'. This is a meme he will propagate. |
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magnuse |
yay |
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* magnuse |
likes memes |
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drojf |
and now yo are one |
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drojf |
you |
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magnuse |
ooh |
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tcohen |
bye #koha |
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rangi |
morning |
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magnuse |
evening |
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Dyrcona |
afternoon. :) |
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magnuse |
ooh, rangi and Dyrcona - now you get to argue about who should merge the Dyrcona-branch of NCIPServer into master ;-) |
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rangi |
heh i probably should, its just a matter of getting time |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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* magnuse |
will send some round tuits when gets around to it |
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Dyrcona |
heh |
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Dyrcona |
They seem to be in short supply. |
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magnuse |
btw last thing i did on friday was i managed to turn a RequestItem call into a hold in koha - man that felt good :-) |
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rangi |
yay! |
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Dyrcona |
yay! |
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magnuse |
looks like our norwegian version of ncip will need some tweaking - i am thinking maybe a separate set of xml templates will tke care of a good chunk of it |
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rangi |
most likely |
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rangi |
i wonder if they will send the actions in norwegian instead of english |
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Dyrcona |
I pondered that, like how to configure something like that for different vendors, etc. |
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rangi |
its perfectly valid according to the standard if they did |
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rangi |
which is why i hate ncip :) |
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Dyrcona |
It's not the only reason, I'm sure. ;) |
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magnuse |
found another small problem too |
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magnuse |
http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]616f;hb=HEAD#l176 should probably be |
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magnuse |
$result = { success => 0, messages => {'ITEM_NOT_FOUND' => 1} }; |
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magnuse |
similar to line 159 |
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magnuse |
i *think* we are sticking to english |
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Dyrcona |
rangi will probably hate me, too, after he works out the merge. I changed a lot when it comes to the interfaces. |
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magnuse |
yup, we are using english for the content/actions. but it might not be the same words as others, of course... |
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rangi |
yeah |
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rangi |
magnuse: that whole Koha.pm will get rewritten when the restful api comes along further |
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rangi |
but thats a wee way away, so patching it now is good |
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rangi |
Dyrcona: it'll be fine, i rarely hate anyone :) |
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magnuse |
oh, to replace the direct use of subroutines with the rest api? |
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rangi |
exactly |
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magnuse |
ah, interesting! |
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rangi |
then it can sit on a sep machine etc |
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rangi |
that was always part of the plan, but not enough hours in the day to do the api and the ncip server |
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magnuse |
hehe, yeah |
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magnuse |
i hope the rest api has enough wind in its sails to really get somewhere |
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magnuse |
opl are very interested, at least |
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rangi |
i think it will |
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rangi |
its actually easier to write/test than it seems |
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rangi |
because we know how it should behave |
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rangi |
ie, its not a new feature, just a new interface |
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magnuse |
true |
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rangi |
and with Test::WWW::Mechanize |
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rangi |
we can write the tests first |
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rangi |
and code until it passes :) |
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magnuse |
woohoo |
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magnuse |
Dyrcona: do you have a need for having the ils as a ncip client, sending out requests to ncip servers? |
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Dyrcona |
Not right now, no. |
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magnuse |
i do |
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magnuse |
any thoughts on how you would do it? |
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magnuse |
as part of the ils, or as part of ncipserver or as another free standing thing? |
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Dyrcona |
Not sure. I'd probably start a new project. |
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magnuse |
ok |
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Dyrcona |
That might be harder to plug in different backends. |
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magnuse |
ok? |
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Dyrcona |
Well, like, how NCIPServer is supposed to work with Koha or Evergreen or whatever. |
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Dyrcona |
That might be harder with a client. I haven't really thought about it. |
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magnuse |
no problem |
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magnuse |
i still have some time to figure things out :-) |
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magnuse |
writing a client is not very hard though, just a bunch of templates that are POSTed to an endpoint |
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Dyrcona |
Right. I used LWP::UserAgent to smoke test the different requests during development. |
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magnuse |
i have used HTTP::Tiny so far |
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rangi |
i just did this |
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rangi |
curl -X POST -d \@cancelrequestitem.xml http://website.goes.here/ncip --header "Content-Type:text/xml" |
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rangi |
cos im lazy |
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Dyrcona |
heh. |
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magnuse |
i tried to validate the response from ncipserver and got what i thought was a weird result: |
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magnuse |
unknown-1689440:0: Schemas validity error : Element '{http://www.niso.org/2008/ncip}NCIPMessage', attribute 'version': The attribute 'version' is not allowed. |
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magnuse |
unknown-1689440:0: Schemas validity error : Element '{http://www.niso.org/2008/ncip}NCIPMessage': The attribute '{http://www.niso.org/2008/ncip}version' is required but missing. |
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magnuse |
it strikes me now that it might be a namespace thing |
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andreashm |
hi all |
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Dyrcona |
magnuse: It is a namespace thing. |
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magnuse |
tjänare andreashm |
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andreashm |
tjenare magnuse |
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* magnuse |
loves it when people who have koha as their dayjob turns up outside office hours |
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* cait |
waves |
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cait |
andreashm: still fighting off the cold - you are still a suspect! :) |
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magnuse |
Dyrcona: you wouldn't happen to know how to fix it? |
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Dyrcona |
1) Don't validate the output. |
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magnuse |
lol |
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Dyrcona |
2) alter the xsd so the namespace is not required. |
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andreashm |
cait: oh I'm perfectly innocent (*cough, cough*) |
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Dyrcona |
3) Add the namespace in the templates. |
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Dyrcona |
I played with 2 and 3 while testing, and found I preferred 2, but your vendor may complain. |
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bag |
magnuse (nuckles dood) HI |
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magnuse |
yeah, we are a bunch of vendors trying to create interoperable systems - adherence to the xsd is one of the things we have agreed on |
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andreashm |
magnuse: how's the ncip/ill work going? |
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magnuse |
bag: HI & knuckles |
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magnuse |
andreashm: just getting started |
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andreashm |
magnuse: sounds like fun. =) |
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magnuse |
yeah, it is interesting |
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* andreashm |
is waiting for tomorrow and the Koha roundtable talks at the National Library. |
| 20:57 |
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magnuse |
ah yes, that will be interesting! |
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cait |
oh! |
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andreashm |
magnuse: indeed |
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magnuse |
andreashm: will you report live on irc? :-) |
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andreashm |
magnuse: eh... probably not. bad at keeping notes and talking at the same time. so I'll stick to the talking. =) |
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andreashm |
I'll get Viktor to do that! =) |
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cait |
sounds like a plan :) |
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andreashm |
cait: not sure Viktor will see it the same way though. |
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cait |
hm what about...whoever is not talking in the moment has to report on irc? :) |
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magnuse |
hehe, worth a try :-) |
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magnuse |
have fun #koha! |
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rangi |
cya magnuse |
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mtj |
hi all |
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mtj |
hey rangi, have you got a tic? |
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mtj |
..i wanted to run a patch past you |
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rangi |
yep |
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mtj |
hiya, just pm-ed you a url |
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eythian |
hi |
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cait |
hi eythian |
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eythian |
cait: you need to stop finding issues in ES, I think. How will it every get finished if you make me have to stop and fix things? :) |
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cait |
:P |
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cait |
you know it's not my fault that your code is not perfect yet |
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eythian |
I'm amused by your assumption that it will be at some stage :) |
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wizzyrea |
You and your german notions of perfection. |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ |
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wizzyrea |
<3 |
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dcook |
hehe |
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cait |
eythian: i am trying to be nice... |
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eythian |
heh |
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dcook |
cait: tell that to my wife |
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dcook |
She doesn't appreciate me correcting things all the time :P |
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dcook |
cait++ |
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* dcook |
is super glad that cait is doing it, as dcook has had no time to help with ES :( |
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cait |
dcook: i am not sure eythian would call it helping ;) |
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cait |
eythian: so did you fix everything? |
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eythian |
not yet |
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eythian |
maybe tomorrow |
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cait |
tsk |
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wizzyrea |
if you could come up with a supply of tuits for him, that'd be great. |
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wizzyrea |
round ones are the best. |
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cait |
heh |
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cait |
i have run out.. temporarily |
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wizzyrea |
it seems to be a global shortage |
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cait |
eythian: just let me know when you are ready for more testing ;) |
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dcook |
Need more students :P |
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* dcook |
needs to breed so he has someone to fetch beer and to test patches |
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dcook |
I really hope my progeny never lookup these IRC logs |
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eythian |
cait: sure :) if I'm lucky, the SSO stuff I'm also working on will remain stuck at their end. |
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dcook |
Unless they've just fetched me beer. Then we can laugh about it :p |
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cait |
heh |
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eythian |
haha |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.slideshare.net/4614[…]-science-33574555 number 26 :( |
| 22:30 |
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wizzyrea |
actually, after 26 it kind of goes into rude territory. |
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* dcook |
is scared just to click |
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dcook |
Slide 26, or #26? |
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wizzyrea |
number 26 |
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* dcook |
facepalm |
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wahanui |
somebody said facepalm was a tiny member of the Arecaceae family whose preference for warm, humid environments makes it a perfect choice for cultivation in the human nasal cavity. |
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wizzyrea |
oh, and slide 26 |
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wizzyrea |
las 24 |
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wizzyrea |
law |
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dcook |
Haha |
| 22:32 |
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dcook |
Slide 29 does appear to be a thing |
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dcook |
I don't know why... |
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wizzyrea |
because reasons. |
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dcook |
But so many libraries I've worked in... someone has put barcodes and stamps on celebrity foreheads |
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dcook |
It wasn't librarians though as they don't touch the periodicals... |
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wizzyrea |
defacing celebrities is funny? idk. |
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* dcook |
shrugs |
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dcook |
I think it was off limits in the Catholic library I worked in |
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dcook |
That was a great library actually... |
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dcook |
The rules were tough but fair :p |
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dcook |
The librarian there was super nice. |
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* dcook |
still would have preferred to wear his hat indoors though |
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dcook |
Hmm, Library Law #19 might have basis in reality.. |
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