IRC log for #koha, 2015-01-26

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02:11 * Francesca waves
02:13 Francesca hi #koha
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02:23 Francesca rangi are you around?
02:28 wizzyrea he's on a well deserved holiday this week :)
02:53 Francesca ok thanks
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03:17 eythian > Your changes have been rejected because you exceeded the time limit of 3 days before submitting your changes to process_bug.cgi.
03:38 eythian @later tell dcook[…]ch::SearchBuilder
03:38 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
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03:52 BobB hi alvet_
03:52 BobB you should be enjoying a public holiday :)
03:53 eythian BobB: that worked
03:53 eythian BobB: also, you should be enjoying a public holiday :)
03:53 BobB :)
03:54 eythian @wunder nzwn
03:54 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 27.0°C (4:30 PM NZDT on January 26, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
03:54 eythian 27? what is this madness
03:54 BobB wow, here's a first
03:54 eythian no, it was 27 yesterday too
03:54 BobB @wunder Sydney, NSW
03:54 huginn BobB: Error: No such location could be found.
03:54 eythian see, it doesn't even exist
03:55 BobB @wunder Sydney, new south wales, australia
03:55 huginn BobB: Error: No such location could be found.
03:55 eythian @wunder sydney
03:55 huginn eythian: Error: No such location could be found.
03:55 BobB It was there last time I looked  :)
03:55 eythian @wunder sydney, australia
03:55 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Matraville, Sydney, New South Wales is 19.8°C (2:55 PM AEDT on January 26, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
03:55 eythian that's chilly
03:55 BobB 8 degrees hotter in Wellington than in Sydney
03:55 BobB Is that historical?
03:55 eythian it must be :)
03:56 BobB it was 36 at this time yesterday
03:57 eythian a 16 degree change is the difference between warm and 0°
03:57 eythian I don't know how you people live there.
03:57 BobB yeah, yesterday was decidedly 'warm'
03:58 BobB I have to say i prefer 20 to 36
04:00 eythian I think I would have to agree
04:00 alvet_ hi BobB :)
04:01 jcamins Tell you what... you can have 20"-36" of snow, and I'll take your weather.
04:01 * jcamins is displeased about the snow.
04:02 eythian wahanui: 20*2.54
04:02 wahanui 50.8
04:02 eythian that's a fair bit of snow
04:02 eythian you can keep it
04:03 jcamins eythian: I'm hoping there isn't as much as they are predicting.
04:03 eythian actually, if you dumped some in civic square, it'd be very popular until it turned into a puddle
04:03 eythian there's more tourists than humans in the city today
04:03 jcamins Heh.
04:05 eythian oh yay, installing Log::Any stomps on files needed by Log::Any::Adaptor
04:06 * eythian ignores that problem and hopes it goes away
04:08 eythian damn, I can't ignore them.
04:08 eythian Hopefully the new versions work safely
04:16 eythian oh
04:17 eythian Log::Any has absorbed Log::Any::Adaptor, I think
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05:02 eythian yay, Search::Elasticsearch tests pass
05:02 eythian (there was a fair bit of work in making that happen :)
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06:31 cait good morning #koha
06:31 eythian hi cait
06:32 cait hi eythian
06:33 cait @wunder Konstanz
06:33 huginn cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 0.0°C (7:33 AM CET on January 26, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady).
06:33 cait hm could be worse
06:33 eythian no it couldn't, that's exactly 0!
06:33 eythian @wunder nzwn
06:33 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 24.0°C (7:00 PM NZDT on January 26, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
06:33 cait and i think it's the first time it actually has given me Konstanz
06:33 cait instead of a place close by
06:34 cait well, it is winter here... you know
06:34 cait real winter
06:34 eythian that could be better, time to leave. It's too warm to think any more
06:34 eythian yeah, I used to get real winter, then I moved
06:34 cait se
06:34 cait e
06:34 cait have a nice evening
06:35 eythian bye :)
06:45 * magnuse waves
06:45 magnuse @wunder boo
06:45 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (7:20 AM CET on January 26, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993 hPa (Rising).
06:49 magnuse eythian++ for making the Search::Elasticsearch tests pass
06:57 ashimema morning #koha
07:07 cait morning magnuse and ashimema
07:36 magnuse hiya ashimema and cait
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07:38 reiveune hello
07:38 wahanui privet, reiveune
07:40 ashimema @wunder stevenage, uk
07:40 huginn ashimema: The current temperature in Pin Green, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 8.3°C (7:30 AM GMT on January 26, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
07:40 ashimema @seen pianohacker
07:40 huginn ashimema: pianohacker was last seen in #koha 3 days, 10 hours, 19 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <pianohacker> magnuse: exactly my feelings
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07:42 marcelr hi #koha
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07:54 cait hi #koha
07:55 * ashimema is confused
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07:58 magnuse ashimema: anything we can do to help?
07:58 ashimema I have a feeling it's my regex fu
07:59 ashimema using pinaohackers services stuff..
07:59 ashimema attempting to match /2 and / (Capturing the 2 when present).. the regex in place is '/(\d+)'
08:00 ashimema i'm sure that should work.. but for the empty string version it still matches and it returns the capture group as ='1'
08:01 ashimema sure '/' should either fail to match.. or match but give you an undefined group
08:01 ashimema any thoughts?
08:02 * magnuse is confused too
08:03 magnuse you are trying to match "/2" or "/"?
08:04 magnuse does the "/" need to be escaped? "\/"
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08:06 alex_a bonjour
08:06 wahanui kia ora, alex_a
08:11 ashimema trying to match on either
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08:13 ashimema i.e. '/' and '/13' should both match, only one should give a match group = '13' the other should give a match group = 'undef'
08:15 ashimema aha.. I think I see now...
08:15 ashimema there's a fallback to '/' in pianohackers code.. that's where i'm getting mysefl confused..
08:15 Joubu =~ s|/(\d*)|
08:15 Joubu hello :)
08:15 Joubu ashimema: + vs *
08:15 ashimema so in fact '/' is NOT being matched by '/(\d+)' which is much more what I was expecting to see
08:17 ashimema Joubu.. thanks for spotting my super simple mistake
08:17 * ashimema feels a tad silly now :s
08:18 cait you can never spot that kind of mistakes yourselves
08:18 ashimema and nwo my api works as expected..
08:18 ashimema :)
08:18 Joubu simple mistakes are usual on monday morning :)
08:23 magnuse ashimema++ for taking on pianohacker's code!
08:23 ashimema I found a bug with it a while back.. just a tiny one in his default handling of objects to json conversion.. but I can't remember what it was..
08:24 ashimema currently battling through my old notes trying to find it so I can fix it again bfore submitting hist and then my followup ;)
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08:49 nlegrand hey !
08:57 ashimema ni nlegrand
09:13 magnuse bonjour nlegrand
09:39 cait thx for bug 13352 Joubu :)
09:39 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13352 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Editing amount in Acquisitions budget causes error due to formatting
09:40 cait Joubu++
09:44 Joubu cait: IMO since the budgets cannot be edited, it's a major, not minor. I updated the status.
09:46 Joubu cait: I haven't seen this bug before, thanks to have cc me!
09:57 cait i only noticed when the duplicate was fied, hadn't run into it myself either
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10:23 * ashimema should get his rebasing hat on soon.. need to forfill my promise of doing the work after the tidy ;)
10:23 * ashimema is very pleased that the file is now much more readable though :)
10:24 * cait is happy that ashimema is pleased ;)
10:36 magnuse yay!
10:40 kivilahtio Joubu: Do oyu know if I can have some kind of an formal letter of invitation to the event from somewhere?
10:40 kivilahtio with the "event" I mean the Hackfest 2015 in Marseilles, Paris
10:41 kivilahtio paul_p seems busy, so I was wodering if anybody has one lying around?
10:42 paul_p kivilahtio yes, i'm busy. I'll sent an invitation later asap (not today though)
10:42 kivilahtio paul_p: can i reuse the last years?
10:42 kivilahtio paul_p: so you don't have to?
10:42 paul_p kivilahtio yes, of course !
10:43 kivilahtio paul_p: OK, I'll do that
10:43 paul_p perfect. Less work for me is always something I like :D
10:43 kivilahtio agreed
10:51 marcelr Joubu: bug 7710: sorry for not being very clear, but I meant add a comment or signoff line on the patch itself to show what you did
10:51 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7710 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , multiple holds per title
10:53 kivilahtio wow, libreoffice edits .pdf out-of-box! Another nail to Micro$oft's coffin!
10:53 Joubu marcelr: ha ok!
11:33 cait lunch time bbl
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12:57 oleonard Hi #koha
12:57 cait hi oleonard
12:57 oleonard @wunder 45701
12:57 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is -2.2°C (7:31 AM EST on January 26, 2015). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.72 in 1006 hPa (Rising).
12:58 magnuse @wunder boo
12:58 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (1:50 PM CET on January 26, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.36 in 994 hPa (Steady).
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13:10 tcohen xmorning!
13:16 ashimema morning tcohen
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13:25 magnuse ¡hola tcohen!
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13:41 cait hi tcohen
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13:51 rsz hi, I am configuring koha on a ubuntu server, I am facing problem when trying to search books via isbn using z3950 search.
13:51 rsz I am getting records count, but nor records to import into...
13:52 cait hm which version? marc21 or unimarc?
13:52 rsz I checked the configurations of library of congress server on one of demo servers, and found them to be same, still no detailed results.
13:52 rsz I tried both combinations!
13:52 rsz I just get records count..
13:53 cait rsz: which version of Koha re you using?
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13:53 rsz koha version:
13:53 cait rsz: and which marformat are you using? you have to pick that when youinstall koha and can look it up in the marcflavor system preference
13:54 cait but don't change it there for testing - it won't do all that is needed
13:54 rsz ok, just checking..
13:55 rsz I searched marcflavor in system preferences, did not find anything..
13:56 cait hm try looking at the local use tab
13:57 rsz I see marcflavour set to marc21
13:57 cait ok
13:57 cait that's good if you want to search llc
13:57 cait loc
13:57 cait can you share what you configured in the z39.50?
13:57 rsz In Home › Administration › System preferences > Cataloging preferences
13:58 rsz loc in system preferencs?
13:59 rsz loc is coming for location also, can you be more specific what to search?
14:00 cait sorry
14:00 cait i meant your LOC search target in administration > z39...
14:00 rsz host:
14:01 rsz port: 210 | database:LCDB | syntax: marc21/usmarc | encoding:utf8
14:01 cait hm and bibliographic for the last field?
14:01 rsz yes..
14:02 rsz record type..
14:02 cait that looks ok
14:02 cait i am not sure what might be going wrong
14:02 rsz I tried a marc8 database also, but still did not get detailed records.
14:02 rsz is there a port that needs to be opened for z3950 protocol communication?
14:03 cait yes, the 210
14:03 cait but it's confusing that it shows you the number of results
14:07 rsz here is how the results text look like:
14:12 nlegrand hey ashimema magnuse (I lag a bit today :))
14:13 cait hm
14:13 cait that doesn't look like you have searched LOC
14:13 cait but 3 other targets
14:13 rsz cait: the 210 port setting is for servers hosting z3950 lists, not clients requesting it??
14:13 cait koha is a client in this case
14:14 rsz should I open the 210 port?
14:14 cait but your koha server must be allowed to reach to loc via 210
14:14 rsz I am not too sure about it :-)
14:14 cait maybe someone else can help better with this
14:14 cait but maybe make another search, make sure you uncheck the checkboxed for everything and only check loc
14:15 rsz ok..
14:16 rsz it worked! :-)
14:16 rsz I don't know what or how it worked...!
14:16 magnuse cait++
14:16 rsz thanks for the suggestion cait! I was starting to give up!!
14:17 cait np :)
14:17 cait there is a configuration option ont the z39.50 config page - checked
14:17 cait it's for checking or unchecking the checkbox by default
14:17 cait (hope that made sense)
14:18 rsz ok...
14:18 cait so you coudl check the loc by default and maybe remove some of the problematic targets from your default 'checked' search options
14:22 rsz I was trying to look for what made the search work, and here is the diff: I changed database to LCDB_MARC8 and encoding to marc-8..
14:24 Joubu the pref is named "marcflavour"
14:25 Joubu whaou sorry, I was not at the end of the logs :)
14:25 magnuse hehe
14:25 cait Joubu: i think you can't search it because it's on local use - apart from my typo :)
14:26 * magnuse has searched for that plenty of times
14:31 magnuse ...and found it
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14:35 rsz is LOC the most exhaustive source for books listings?
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15:08 rsz is it possible to point a current koha installation to another instance of mysql db?
15:10 rsz preferrably though the web interface..
15:10 ashimema can't be done via the browser..
15:11 ashimema to do it via the server, just switch the details over in koha-conf.xml
15:12 rsz ok, thanks! :-)
15:12 eth0__ Hi koha :) Did someone use haproxy in front of a zebra's instance in order to serve unimarc/marc21 ?
15:13 cait eth0__: what are you trying to do?
15:13 eth0__ i've this conf in haproxy :
15:13 eth0__ Listen z39502 :9998
15:13 eth0__ mode tcp
15:13 eth0__ option tcplog
15:13 eth0__ option clitcpka
15:13 eth0__ server z3950 check
15:14 eth0__ afeter auth with yaz-client on my pc i'm trying : open tcp:
15:14 eth0__ and i get :
15:14 eth0__ Connecting...OK.
15:14 eth0__ Sent initrequest.
15:14 eth0__ Target closed connection
15:15 eth0__ I've tried to proxify with socat (socat TCP-LISTEN:9999,fork TCP:
15:15 cait eth0__: i have never used haproxy, I am not sure what it is - but what are you trying to do?
15:16 eth0__ I've a zebra's instance wich listen in localhost, i'm trying to proxyfi
15:17 eth0__ marc.domaine.tld = and then the server redirect tcp traffic to the vm
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15:28 jcamins eth0__: I've never used haproxy for proxying Zebra, but the listen line looks wrong to me.
15:28 jcamins Shouldn't that be listen z39502 :9999?
15:31 jcamins I also think that you need noclitcpka and notcpka.
15:31 jcamins But I'm just guessing.
15:32 eth0__ Ok i'm trying theses options
15:32 eth0__ thanks jcamins
15:32 * jcamins has oddly specific guesses.
15:32 eth0__ jcamins: yes, i show you unimarc's haproxy configuration (it is also the same config, only the port change) ;)
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15:34 jcamins eth0__: does it work with UNIMARC?
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15:40 eth0__ both doesn't work
15:40 jcamins Okay.
15:40 * jcamins stands by his guesses.
15:40 jcamins Alas, those are my only guesses.
15:40 eth0__ and it don't work with noclitcpka notcpka
15:41 eth0__ What about iptables ?
15:41 jcamins Oh well. That seemed like a good idea.
15:41 jcamins I've never tried proxying Zebra with anything.
15:41 jcamins If I wanted to, I'd probably use metaproxy, since that's what it's for.
15:41 eth0__ nobody uses failover/load balancer with koha ?
15:42 jcamins Someone might, but I don't know who.
15:42 eth0__ jcamins: i saw but it is problematic because i already use keepalived → haproxy → VM
15:42 jcamins My failover is mostly about the interface.
15:43 jcamins Much less concerned about the Z39.50 interface.
15:46 tcohen if you are reverse-proxing SRU, it is ok to use anything
15:46 tcohen Z29.50 wouldn't work I suspect
15:47 jcamins tcohen: I would think that without keepalive proxying Z39.50 should work.
15:50 eth0__ Did somebody already tried with keepalived ?
15:53 nengard anyone around - gmcharlt maybe - who can explain the purpose of the XSLT files for transforming z39.50 results? I'm writing it up for the manual
15:55 cait you can change the incoming record with them
15:56 cait sorry on phone
15:57 nengard tcohen can you maybe explain more for librarians? how should i put it in the manual?
15:57 cait nengard: you can use it to change the record that you download from z39.50 - for example we have xslts that can remove the items that you would get from another koha catalog in the record, or all $9
15:57 nengard that i understand ... i'm just not sure how to explain it to the average user
15:58 nengard reading the bug report
15:58 cait making your own xslt files to change something would require a bit of programming, maybe add as examples the 2 we have in Koha already?
15:58 ashimema a for example would be using xslt to automatgically move 001 to 010 and set 001 as a local number upon imports
15:58 cait i will try to find the bug report that added the 2 example files
15:58 nengard[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6681
15:58 huginn Bug 6681: enhancement, P2, ---, simith.doliveira, Pushed to Master , Provide a way for removing authority links and holdings on Z39.50 record import
15:58 ashimema The examples would be good cait ;)
15:58 cait ashimema: hm 001 to 035?
15:58 wahanui 1
15:58 ashimema that's waht i meant.. thanks cait
15:58 nengard :)
15:58 ashimema getting my fields confused
15:58 tcohen nengard: XSLT knowledge is required, the fetaure lets you apply transformations on the received records
15:59 nengard okay this is one of those scary ones that i don't want to document because i don't want to try and explain in training :) hehe
15:59 cait and the result list you see already has the changes L)
15:59 tcohen koha ships two example XSLTs
15:59 cait you could do crazy things like replace all e with ä
15:59 nengard wow
15:59 nengard powerful
15:59 cait yep )
15:59 ashimema yup.. all sorts of crazy.. but cool
15:59 ashimema ;)
15:59 cait still searching bugzila
15:59 nengard okay let me see if i can narrow this down without scaring people
15:59 nengard :) hehe
15:59 nengard you can all feel free to edit what i write
15:59 ashimema easy way to compeletely bork records as they come in.. or tidy them ;)
16:00 cait anyone... feel free to help me search
16:00 cait it's hiding
16:01 nengard cait are you looking for the examples? they're on[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6681
16:01 huginn Bug 6681: enhancement, P2, ---, simith.doliveira, Pushed to Master , Provide a way for removing authority links and holdings on Z39.50 record import
16:01 cait oh yes that one
16:01 nengard :)
16:01 cait it looks like e also included some change for the help page
16:02 cait so we got 4 examples, 2 each for MARC21 and UNIMARC
16:02 cait - Del952.xsl - Del995.xsl - Del9LinksExcept952.xsl - Del9LinksExcept995.xsl
16:03 cait maybe you can reuse what's on the help page?
16:03 nengard yes, I'll take a look at that
16:03 nengard thanks all
16:03 reiveune bye
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16:03 nengard trying to get this darn thing done so we can branch it for 3.20
16:03 * cait is looking foward to play with the feature actually :)
16:04 cait we do some bulk changes before importing from the union catalog... would be nice to also have them on download :)
16:04 nengard eek, the help file has images in it
16:04 nengard we don't usually do that
16:05 nengard due to the size of the images
16:05 cait makes sense
16:05 cait but doesn't seem to be from this patch
16:05 cait maybe from another
16:05 nengard hmmm
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16:05 cait maybe the sru feature?
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16:11 nengard cait they're not images
16:11 nengard they're tables - really pretty tables!
16:11 nengard hehe
16:11 nengard I thought they were images
16:13 cait ah :)
16:14 cait but it's a good thing to keep in mind - no img files for the help files
16:19 charles_ hey guys, I've a question about unit-tests
16:20 charles_ I'm on master, not on a fresh install but on a fresh database, and I get errors in Languages.t, QueryParser.t, Ratings.t, Search.t when I run a prove in t/db_dependent
16:20 charles_ is this normal?
16:25 cait t/db_dependent might not all work
16:25 cait some depend on sample data to be in the database
16:26 charles_ if I created the schema through the intranet page, and added all the available sample data from the installer, should it work?
16:27 cait i can't test against my database right now
16:28 charles_ no problem
16:28 charles_ thanks for the input
16:28 cait tcohen: do you know about Search.t and QueryParser.t?
16:28 tcohen yes
16:29 tcohen i don't get those problems, you probably paste some of the output
16:29 tcohen paste?
16:29 wahanui rumour has it paste is found at
16:35 tcohen charles_: what OS are you running the tests on?
16:36 tcohen tripit-- # only accepts english confirmations .... .... you s*ck
16:43 charles_ Languages.t fails on the last tests, after looping over translatedLanguages2 in search of $_ != 0
16:43 nengard okay, a bunch of manual updates coming for the z39/sru area and others
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17:27 ashimema cait?
17:27 wahanui i heard cait was from germany. Ask me about germany.
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17:50 rambutan wahanui:  sprechen Sie Deutsch?
17:50 wahanui rambutan: bugger all, i dunno
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19:44 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13235: Move onclick attr to javacsript code <[…]4c1070f5888c1c302> / Bug 13235 - Revise layout of patron search form <[…]8c58860e267498797> / Bug 13373 - [QA Followup] - Update Polish web installer sample data files <
19:59 magnuse eythian around yet?
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20:23 wizzyrea not yet, another hour or so
20:24 oleonard Hi wizzyrea
20:24 wizzyrea hi oleonard
20:24 wizzyrea :D
20:30 oleonard Bye wizzyrea
20:30 oleonard :D
20:30 wizzyrea D:
20:30 wizzyrea later :)
20:30 jcamins wizzyrea: no snowmageddon where you are?
20:31 wizzyrea it's hot as today
20:31 wizzyrea @wunder nzwn
20:31 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on January 27, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
20:31 wizzyrea nope.
20:31 wizzyrea no snow.
20:34 jcamins Lucky.
20:34 wizzyrea how about you? hear you're about to get slammed
20:34 jcamins The office closed at 2:30.
20:34 jcamins I wasn't there until then because I had a lunch, so I came home right after lunch.
20:34 jcamins There are several inches of snow outside already.
20:35 wizzyrea wow.
20:35 * jcamins went on the record saying "there won't be much snow."
20:35 * jcamins was wrong.
20:35 wizzyrea eh there are worse things
20:36 jcamins True, but I still don't like snow.
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21:11 cbrannon Got a question for anyone.  Have you ever heard of Koha creating and attaching items to blank bib records out of the blue?
21:12 cait blank?
21:12 wahanui i think blank is not null
21:13 BobB cbrannon, it can't be blank, there must at least be a biblio number?
21:14 BobB a value in items.biblionumber for these new items?
21:15 cbrannon Sorry, I mean, have ITEMS ever been created by Koha, not a person, and attached to a bib record that has no items?
21:15 BobB ah ok
21:16 BobB The only thing that comes to my mind is when people misinterpret the 'Edit Items' page and create a new one inadvertently ..
21:16 BobB when their intention was to edit an existing one
21:16 BobB otherwise, no
21:16 cait no
21:16 eythian @later tell magnuse sup?
21:16 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
21:16 eythian also, hi
21:16 cait cbrannon: could it be possible they have been downloadedfrom another koha catalog via z39.50?
21:17 cait if the downloaded files included a 952 that could do it i gues
21:17 eythian I do that misreading the edit items page thing all the time
21:18 * BobB learnt that one the hard way
21:20 cbrannon Thanks for the feedback.  :)
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21:29 wizzyrea that edit items page is a significant user experience problem, people doing the wrong thing a lot.
21:29 wizzyrea I'm not sure how to fix it.
21:29 eythian If only we had some UX people handy :)
21:47 eythian mtj: your 3.16 branch still (probably) doesn't build without bug 12642 applied. It really really should go in.
21:47 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12642 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , SMS.t requires a database
21:48 wizzyrea IF ONLY.
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21:54 magnuse are there supposed to be packages for 3.16.7 yet?
21:55 magnuse i have "deb oldstable main" in sources.list, but after apt-get update i still have as the candidate
21:55 magnuse (when i do "sudo apt-cache policy koha-common")
21:56 eythian magnuse: give me about 20 minutes, I forgot to build them yesterday, but am preparing to do so as I type.
21:56 eythian (you people are so needy ;)
21:56 liw eythian++
21:58 magnuse eythian++ definitely!
21:58 magnuse and liw++ for old times sake ;-)
21:59 magnuse shouldn't there be a 3.16.6 package, though?
21:59 eythian magnuse: read the changelog
21:59 eythian (when it's released with the packages)
21:59 magnuse hehe, wil do
21:59 eythian short answer: there was some confusion with 3.16.05 and .06.
22:00 magnuse cool, no stress
22:00 eythian due to security patches not being correctly applied, or something.
22:00 eythian long answer: I don't really remember.
22:00 magnuse i was just afraid there was something wonky with my apt
22:16 * cait is not a happy cait
22:16 magnuse ohnoes?!?
22:18 eythian hi cait
22:18 eythian unhappy cait
22:18 cait hi eythian
22:21 eythian magnuse:
22:21 eythian 3...
22:21 eythian 2.5...
22:22 eythian 2...
22:22 eythian 1...
22:22 eythian done!
22:22 * magnuse starts the upgrade
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22:30 magnuse ...and it's done
22:30 magnuse thanks eythian!
22:30 eythian any time :)
22:33 eythian <-- unrelated, but I recommend you watch this movie.
22:35 magnuse heh, it *actually* starts playing in our local cinema this thursday :-)
22:35 eythian nice :)
22:37 magnuse i just might go see it, then :-)
22:39 * magnuse makes a note of looking at Bug 13431 tomorrow, then falls asleep
22:39 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13431 critical, P5 - low, ---, abl, Needs Signoff , Shared FastMmap file causes issues
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22:58 mtj eythian: thanks for the headsup
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23:01 AndroUser Hello koha community!
23:01 AndroUser Testing android chat
23:02 mtj eythian: sms.t seems to be passing OK in jenkins, currently
23:02 AndroUser Test
23:02 mtj, probably ok to leave patch until next release
23:03 schnydszch Sorry for the bother i was just testing androidchat :-)
23:03 mtj works ok schnydszch :)
23:04 schnydszch Thanks mtj! I can now follow koha community chat in my phone. Well aside from the list :-)
23:19 mtj sounds fun ^
23:19 mtj ..i am looking for a good android irc client too
23:27 mtj this looks perfect
23:27 mtj[…]uasseldroid&hl=en
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23:30 mtj magnuse:  im not sure whats up the  "sudo apt-cache policy koha-common"
23:32 eythian I use "atomic"
23:32 mtj ta eythian
23:33 mtj fwiw, my policy said too
23:33 eythian (but I haven't compared it to Quassel)
23:33 eythian mtj: it's because of the security patch that needed to be applied twice
23:33 mtj i just apt-get update(d) , now its on 3.16.7 (good)
23:34 eythian yep
23:35 mtj i'm just not sure why the policy was not bumped to 3.16.6
23:35 mtj ..some quirk where apt thinks > 3.16.6 ?
23:35 mtj pass... its fixed now, all god :0)
23:35 mtj good
23:36 eythian no
23:36 mtj no?
23:36 wahanui
23:36 schnydszch mtj i'm using androirc
23:38 eythian androirc isn't free software
23:38 schnydszch ..and it's my first time using it. It's a mess connecting to koha irc in phone's chrome
23:39 eythian mtj: I'm a little confused really. It might just be I missed the release of it, or I though my .1 was equivalent, or something
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23:43 jcamins Help me, wizzyrea. You are my only hope!
23:43 jcamins ... to find out what kind of cookie I should bake.
23:43 jcamins What kind of cookie should I bake?
23:43 cait something with oats
23:45 eythian she's gone for (I presume) lunch
23:48 jcamins Alas. I guess I won't find out what to bake for a little longer, then.
23:48 cait no oats?
23:48 cait :(
23:49 eythian @wunder nzwn
23:50 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0°C (12:30 PM NZDT on January 27, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
23:50 eythian hmm, not living up to the forecast of 27 so far.
23:52 eythian ah, that source is wrong. Apparently it's actually 25.
23:54 wizzyrea jcamins: If I thought you had oreos in the house, I'd suggest inception cookies.
23:54 jcamins Hehe.
23:55 eythian A wise suggestion
23:56 jcamins I do not.
23:57 wizzyrea[…]nk-cookies-recipe
23:58 * wizzyrea admits to not having great cookie suggestions today because it is so flippin hot out all I want to eat/drink is icecubes.
23:58 wizzyrea maybe juice.
23:59 eythian wizzyrea: have a smoothy from the smoothy place across the road.

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