Time Nick Message 02:11 * Francesca waves 02:13 Francesca hi #koha 02:23 Francesca rangi are you around? 02:28 wizzyrea he's on a well deserved holiday this week :) 02:53 Francesca ok thanks 03:17 eythian > Your changes have been rejected because you exceeded the time limit of 3 days before submitting your changes to process_bug.cgi. 03:38 eythian @later tell dcook https://metacpan.org/pod/ElasticSearch::SearchBuilder 03:38 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded. 03:52 BobB hi alvet_ 03:52 BobB you should be enjoying a public holiday :) 03:53 eythian BobB: that worked 03:53 eythian BobB: also, you should be enjoying a public holiday :) 03:53 BobB :) 03:54 eythian @wunder nzwn 03:54 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 27.0°C (4:30 PM NZDT on January 26, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 03:54 eythian 27? what is this madness 03:54 BobB wow, here's a first 03:54 eythian no, it was 27 yesterday too 03:54 BobB @wunder Sydney, NSW 03:54 huginn BobB: Error: No such location could be found. 03:54 eythian see, it doesn't even exist 03:55 BobB @wunder Sydney, new south wales, australia 03:55 huginn BobB: Error: No such location could be found. 03:55 eythian @wunder sydney 03:55 huginn eythian: Error: No such location could be found. 03:55 BobB It was there last time I looked :) 03:55 eythian @wunder sydney, australia 03:55 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Matraville, Sydney, New South Wales is 19.8°C (2:55 PM AEDT on January 26, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). 03:55 eythian that's chilly 03:55 BobB 8 degrees hotter in Wellington than in Sydney 03:55 BobB Is that historical? 03:55 eythian it must be :) 03:56 BobB it was 36 at this time yesterday 03:57 eythian a 16 degree change is the difference between warm and 0° 03:57 eythian I don't know how you people live there. 03:57 BobB yeah, yesterday was decidedly 'warm' 03:58 BobB I have to say i prefer 20 to 36 04:00 eythian I think I would have to agree 04:00 alvet_ hi BobB :) 04:01 jcamins Tell you what... you can have 20"-36" of snow, and I'll take your weather. 04:01 * jcamins is displeased about the snow. 04:02 eythian wahanui: 20*2.54 04:02 wahanui 50.8 04:02 eythian that's a fair bit of snow 04:02 eythian you can keep it 04:03 jcamins eythian: I'm hoping there isn't as much as they are predicting. 04:03 eythian actually, if you dumped some in civic square, it'd be very popular until it turned into a puddle 04:03 eythian there's more tourists than humans in the city today 04:03 jcamins Heh. 04:05 eythian oh yay, installing Log::Any stomps on files needed by Log::Any::Adaptor 04:06 * eythian ignores that problem and hopes it goes away 04:08 eythian damn, I can't ignore them. 04:08 eythian Hopefully the new versions work safely 04:16 eythian oh 04:17 eythian Log::Any has absorbed Log::Any::Adaptor, I think 05:02 eythian yay, Search::Elasticsearch tests pass 05:02 eythian (there was a fair bit of work in making that happen :) 06:31 cait good morning #koha 06:31 eythian hi cait 06:32 cait hi eythian 06:33 cait @wunder Konstanz 06:33 huginn cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 0.0°C (7:33 AM CET on January 26, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). 06:33 cait hm could be worse 06:33 eythian no it couldn't, that's exactly 0! 06:33 eythian @wunder nzwn 06:33 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 24.0°C (7:00 PM NZDT on January 26, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 06:33 cait and i think it's the first time it actually has given me Konstanz 06:33 cait instead of a place close by 06:34 cait well, it is winter here... you know 06:34 cait real winter 06:34 eythian that could be better, time to leave. It's too warm to think any more 06:34 eythian yeah, I used to get real winter, then I moved 06:34 cait se 06:34 cait e 06:34 cait have a nice evening 06:35 eythian bye :) 06:45 * magnuse waves 06:45 magnuse @wunder boo 06:45 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (7:20 AM CET on January 26, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993 hPa (Rising). 06:49 magnuse eythian++ for making the Search::Elasticsearch tests pass 06:57 ashimema morning #koha 07:07 cait morning magnuse and ashimema 07:36 magnuse hiya ashimema and cait 07:38 reiveune hello 07:38 wahanui privet, reiveune 07:40 ashimema @wunder stevenage, uk 07:40 huginn ashimema: The current temperature in Pin Green, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 8.3°C (7:30 AM GMT on January 26, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). 07:40 ashimema @seen pianohacker 07:40 huginn ashimema: pianohacker was last seen in #koha 3 days, 10 hours, 19 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <pianohacker> magnuse: exactly my feelings 07:42 marcelr hi #koha 07:54 cait hi #koha 07:55 * ashimema is confused 07:58 magnuse ashimema: anything we can do to help? 07:58 ashimema I have a feeling it's my regex fu 07:59 ashimema using pinaohackers services stuff.. 07:59 ashimema attempting to match /2 and / (Capturing the 2 when present).. the regex in place is '/(\d+)' 08:00 ashimema i'm sure that should work.. but for the empty string version it still matches and it returns the capture group as ='1' 08:01 ashimema sure '/' should either fail to match.. or match but give you an undefined group 08:01 ashimema any thoughts? 08:02 * magnuse is confused too 08:03 magnuse you are trying to match "/2" or "/"? 08:04 magnuse does the "/" need to be escaped? "\/" 08:06 alex_a bonjour 08:06 wahanui kia ora, alex_a 08:11 ashimema trying to match on either 08:13 ashimema i.e. '/' and '/13' should both match, only one should give a match group = '13' the other should give a match group = 'undef' 08:15 ashimema aha.. I think I see now... 08:15 ashimema there's a fallback to '/' in pianohackers code.. that's where i'm getting mysefl confused.. 08:15 Joubu =~ s|/(\d*)| 08:15 Joubu hello :) 08:15 Joubu ashimema: + vs * 08:15 ashimema so in fact '/' is NOT being matched by '/(\d+)' which is much more what I was expecting to see 08:17 ashimema Joubu.. thanks for spotting my super simple mistake 08:17 * ashimema feels a tad silly now :s 08:18 cait you can never spot that kind of mistakes yourselves 08:18 ashimema and nwo my api works as expected.. 08:18 ashimema :) 08:18 Joubu simple mistakes are usual on monday morning :) 08:23 magnuse ashimema++ for taking on pianohacker's code! 08:23 ashimema I found a bug with it a while back.. just a tiny one in his default handling of objects to json conversion.. but I can't remember what it was.. 08:24 ashimema currently battling through my old notes trying to find it so I can fix it again bfore submitting hist and then my followup ;) 08:49 nlegrand hey ! 08:57 ashimema ni nlegrand 09:13 magnuse bonjour nlegrand 09:39 cait thx for bug 13352 Joubu :) 09:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13352 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Editing amount in Acquisitions budget causes error due to formatting 09:40 cait Joubu++ 09:44 Joubu cait: IMO since the budgets cannot be edited, it's a major, not minor. I updated the status. 09:46 Joubu cait: I haven't seen this bug before, thanks to have cc me! 09:57 cait i only noticed when the duplicate was fied, hadn't run into it myself either 10:23 * ashimema should get his rebasing hat on soon.. need to forfill my promise of doing the work after the auth.pm tidy ;) 10:23 * ashimema is very pleased that the file is now much more readable though :) 10:24 * cait is happy that ashimema is pleased ;) 10:36 magnuse yay! 10:40 kivilahtio Joubu: Do oyu know if I can have some kind of an formal letter of invitation to the event from somewhere? 10:40 kivilahtio with the "event" I mean the Hackfest 2015 in Marseilles, Paris 10:41 kivilahtio paul_p seems busy, so I was wodering if anybody has one lying around? 10:42 paul_p kivilahtio yes, i'm busy. I'll sent an invitation later asap (not today though) 10:42 kivilahtio paul_p: can i reuse the last years? 10:42 kivilahtio paul_p: so you don't have to? 10:42 paul_p kivilahtio yes, of course ! 10:43 kivilahtio paul_p: OK, I'll do that 10:43 paul_p perfect. Less work for me is always something I like :D 10:43 kivilahtio agreed 10:51 marcelr Joubu: bug 7710: sorry for not being very clear, but I meant add a comment or signoff line on the patch itself to show what you did 10:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7710 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , multiple holds per title 10:53 kivilahtio wow, libreoffice edits .pdf out-of-box! Another nail to Micro$oft's coffin! 10:53 Joubu marcelr: ha ok! 11:33 cait lunch time bbl 12:57 oleonard Hi #koha 12:57 cait hi oleonard 12:57 oleonard @wunder 45701 12:57 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is -2.2°C (7:31 AM EST on January 26, 2015). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.72 in 1006 hPa (Rising). 12:58 magnuse @wunder boo 12:58 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (1:50 PM CET on January 26, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.36 in 994 hPa (Steady). 13:10 tcohen xmorning! 13:16 ashimema morning tcohen 13:25 magnuse ¡hola tcohen! 13:41 cait hi tcohen 13:51 rsz hi, I am configuring koha on a ubuntu server, I am facing problem when trying to search books via isbn using z3950 search. 13:51 rsz I am getting records count, but nor records to import into... 13:52 cait hm which version? marc21 or unimarc? 13:52 rsz I checked the configurations of library of congress server on one of demo servers, and found them to be same, still no detailed results. 13:52 rsz I tried both combinations! 13:52 rsz I just get records count.. 13:53 cait rsz: which version of Koha re you using? 13:53 rsz koha version: 3.18.03.000 13:53 cait rsz: and which marformat are you using? you have to pick that when youinstall koha and can look it up in the marcflavor system preference 13:54 cait but don't change it there for testing - it won't do all that is needed 13:54 rsz ok, just checking.. 13:55 rsz I searched marcflavor in system preferences, did not find anything.. 13:56 cait hm try looking at the local use tab 13:57 rsz I see marcflavour set to marc21 13:57 cait ok 13:57 cait that's good if you want to search llc 13:57 cait loc 13:57 cait can you share what you configured in the z39.50? 13:57 rsz In Home › Administration › System preferences > Cataloging preferences 13:58 rsz loc in system preferencs? 13:59 rsz loc is coming for location also, can you be more specific what to search? 14:00 cait sorry 14:00 cait i meant your LOC search target in administration > z39... 14:00 rsz host: lx2.loc.gov 14:01 rsz port: 210 | database:LCDB | syntax: marc21/usmarc | encoding:utf8 14:01 cait hm and bibliographic for the last field? 14:01 rsz yes.. 14:02 rsz record type.. 14:02 cait that looks ok 14:02 cait i am not sure what might be going wrong 14:02 rsz I tried a marc8 database also, but still did not get detailed records. 14:02 rsz is there a port that needs to be opened for z3950 protocol communication? 14:03 cait yes, the 210 14:03 cait but it's confusing that it shows you the number of results 14:07 rsz here is how the results text look like: http://paste.koha-community.org/376 14:12 nlegrand hey ashimema magnuse (I lag a bit today :)) 14:13 cait hm 14:13 cait that doesn't look like you have searched LOC 14:13 cait but 3 other targets 14:13 rsz cait: the 210 port setting is for servers hosting z3950 lists, not clients requesting it?? 14:13 cait koha is a client in this case 14:14 rsz should I open the 210 port? 14:14 cait but your koha server must be allowed to reach to loc via 210 14:14 rsz I am not too sure about it :-) 14:14 cait maybe someone else can help better with this 14:14 cait but maybe make another search, make sure you uncheck the checkboxed for everything and only check loc 14:15 rsz ok.. 14:16 rsz it worked! :-) 14:16 rsz I don't know what or how it worked...! 14:16 magnuse cait++ 14:16 rsz thanks for the suggestion cait! I was starting to give up!! 14:17 cait np :) 14:17 cait there is a configuration option ont the z39.50 config page - checked 14:17 cait it's for checking or unchecking the checkbox by default 14:17 cait (hope that made sense) 14:18 rsz ok... 14:18 cait so you coudl check the loc by default and maybe remove some of the problematic targets from your default 'checked' search options 14:22 rsz I was trying to look for what made the search work, and here is the diff: I changed database to LCDB_MARC8 and encoding to marc-8.. 14:24 Joubu the pref is named "marcflavour" 14:25 Joubu whaou sorry, I was not at the end of the logs :) 14:25 magnuse hehe 14:25 cait Joubu: i think you can't search it because it's on local use - apart from my typo :) 14:26 * magnuse has searched for that plenty of times 14:31 magnuse ...and found it 14:35 rsz is LOC the most exhaustive source for books listings? 14:41 * fridolin dam wifi 15:08 rsz is it possible to point a current koha installation to another instance of mysql db? 15:10 rsz preferrably though the web interface.. 15:10 ashimema can't be done via the browser.. 15:11 ashimema to do it via the server, just switch the details over in koha-conf.xml 15:12 rsz ok, thanks! :-) 15:12 eth0__ Hi koha :) Did someone use haproxy in front of a zebra's instance in order to serve unimarc/marc21 ? 15:13 cait eth0__: what are you trying to do? 15:13 eth0__ i've this conf in haproxy : 15:13 eth0__ Listen z39502 :9998 15:13 eth0__ mode tcp 15:13 eth0__ option tcplog 15:13 eth0__ option clitcpka 15:13 eth0__ server z3950 8.8.8.8:9998 check 15:14 eth0__ afeter auth with yaz-client on my pc i'm trying : open tcp:8.8.8.8:9999/biblios 15:14 eth0__ and i get : 15:14 eth0__ Connecting...OK. 15:14 eth0__ Sent initrequest. 15:14 eth0__ Target closed connection 15:15 eth0__ I've tried to proxify with socat (socat TCP-LISTEN:9999,fork TCP:192.168.178.144:9999 15:15 cait eth0__: i have never used haproxy, I am not sure what it is - but what are you trying to do? 15:16 eth0__ I've a zebra's instance wich listen in localhost, i'm trying to proxyfi 15:17 eth0__ marc.domaine.tld = 8.8.8.8 and then the server 8.8.8.8 redirect tcp traffic to the vm 15:28 jcamins eth0__: I've never used haproxy for proxying Zebra, but the listen line looks wrong to me. 15:28 jcamins Shouldn't that be listen z39502 :9999? 15:31 jcamins I also think that you need noclitcpka and notcpka. 15:31 jcamins But I'm just guessing. 15:32 eth0__ Ok i'm trying theses options 15:32 eth0__ thanks jcamins 15:32 * jcamins has oddly specific guesses. 15:32 eth0__ jcamins: yes, i show you unimarc's haproxy configuration (it is also the same config, only the port change) ;) 15:34 jcamins eth0__: does it work with UNIMARC? 15:40 eth0__ both doesn't work 15:40 jcamins Okay. 15:40 * jcamins stands by his guesses. 15:40 jcamins Alas, those are my only guesses. 15:40 eth0__ and it don't work with noclitcpka notcpka 15:41 eth0__ What about iptables ? 15:41 jcamins Oh well. That seemed like a good idea. 15:41 jcamins I've never tried proxying Zebra with anything. 15:41 jcamins If I wanted to, I'd probably use metaproxy, since that's what it's for. 15:41 eth0__ nobody uses failover/load balancer with koha ? 15:42 jcamins Someone might, but I don't know who. 15:42 eth0__ jcamins: i saw http://www.indexdata.com/yazproxy but it is problematic because i already use keepalived → haproxy → VM 15:42 jcamins My failover is mostly about the interface. 15:43 jcamins Much less concerned about the Z39.50 interface. 15:46 tcohen if you are reverse-proxing SRU, it is ok to use anything 15:46 tcohen Z29.50 wouldn't work I suspect 15:47 jcamins tcohen: I would think that without keepalive proxying Z39.50 should work. 15:50 eth0__ Did somebody already tried with keepalived ? 15:53 nengard anyone around - gmcharlt maybe - who can explain the purpose of the XSLT files for transforming z39.50 results? I'm writing it up for the manual 15:55 cait you can change the incoming record with them 15:56 cait sorry on phone 15:57 nengard tcohen can you maybe explain more for librarians? how should i put it in the manual? 15:57 cait nengard: you can use it to change the record that you download from z39.50 - for example we have xslts that can remove the items that you would get from another koha catalog in the record, or all $9 15:57 nengard that i understand ... i'm just not sure how to explain it to the average user 15:58 nengard reading the bug report 15:58 cait making your own xslt files to change something would require a bit of programming, maybe add as examples the 2 we have in Koha already? 15:58 ashimema a for example would be using xslt to automatgically move 001 to 010 and set 001 as a local number upon imports 15:58 cait i will try to find the bug report that added the 2 example files 15:58 nengard http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6681 15:58 huginn 04Bug 6681: enhancement, P2, ---, simith.doliveira, Pushed to Master , Provide a way for removing authority links and holdings on Z39.50 record import 15:58 ashimema The examples would be good cait ;) 15:58 cait ashimema: hm 001 to 035? 15:58 wahanui 1 15:58 ashimema that's waht i meant.. thanks cait 15:58 nengard :) 15:58 ashimema getting my fields confused 15:58 tcohen nengard: XSLT knowledge is required, the fetaure lets you apply transformations on the received records 15:59 nengard okay this is one of those scary ones that i don't want to document because i don't want to try and explain in training :) hehe 15:59 cait and the result list you see already has the changes L) 15:59 tcohen koha ships two example XSLTs 15:59 cait you could do crazy things like replace all e with ä 15:59 nengard wow 15:59 nengard powerful 15:59 cait yep ) 15:59 ashimema yup.. all sorts of crazy.. but cool 15:59 ashimema ;) 15:59 cait still searching bugzila 15:59 nengard okay let me see if i can narrow this down without scaring people 15:59 nengard :) hehe 15:59 nengard you can all feel free to edit what i write 15:59 ashimema easy way to compeletely bork records as they come in.. or tidy them ;) 16:00 cait anyone... feel free to help me search 16:00 cait it's hiding 16:01 nengard cait are you looking for the examples? they're on http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6681 16:01 huginn 04Bug 6681: enhancement, P2, ---, simith.doliveira, Pushed to Master , Provide a way for removing authority links and holdings on Z39.50 record import 16:01 cait oh yes that one 16:01 nengard :) 16:01 cait it looks like e also included some change for the help page 16:02 cait so we got 4 examples, 2 each for MARC21 and UNIMARC 16:02 cait - Del952.xsl - Del995.xsl - Del9LinksExcept952.xsl - Del9LinksExcept995.xsl 16:03 cait maybe you can reuse what's on the help page? 16:03 nengard yes, I'll take a look at that 16:03 nengard thanks all 16:03 reiveune bye 16:03 nengard trying to get this darn thing done so we can branch it for 3.20 16:03 * cait is looking foward to play with the feature actually :) 16:04 cait we do some bulk changes before importing from the union catalog... would be nice to also have them on download :) 16:04 nengard eek, the help file has images in it 16:04 nengard we don't usually do that 16:05 nengard due to the size of the images 16:05 cait makes sense 16:05 cait but doesn't seem to be from this patch 16:05 cait maybe from another 16:05 nengard hmmm 16:05 cait maybe the sru feature? 16:11 nengard cait they're not images 16:11 nengard they're tables - really pretty tables! 16:11 nengard hehe 16:11 nengard I thought they were images 16:13 cait ah :) 16:14 cait but it's a good thing to keep in mind - no img files for the help files 16:19 charles_ hey guys, I've a question about unit-tests 16:20 charles_ I'm on master, not on a fresh install but on a fresh database, and I get errors in Languages.t, QueryParser.t, Ratings.t, Search.t when I run a prove in t/db_dependent 16:20 charles_ is this normal? 16:25 cait t/db_dependent might not all work 16:25 cait some depend on sample data to be in the database 16:26 charles_ if I created the schema through the intranet page, and added all the available sample data from the installer, should it work? 16:27 cait i can't test against my database right now 16:28 charles_ no problem 16:28 charles_ thanks for the input 16:28 cait tcohen: do you know about Search.t and QueryParser.t? 16:28 tcohen yes 16:29 tcohen i don't get those problems, you probably paste some of the output 16:29 tcohen paste? 16:29 wahanui rumour has it paste is found at http://paste.koha-community.org 16:35 tcohen charles_: what OS are you running the tests on? 16:36 tcohen tripit-- # only accepts english confirmations .... .... you s*ck 16:43 charles_ Languages.t fails on the last tests, after looping over translatedLanguages2 in search of $_ != 0 16:43 nengard okay, a bunch of manual updates coming for the z39/sru area and others 17:27 ashimema cait? 17:27 wahanui i heard cait was from germany. Ask me about germany. 17:50 rambutan wahanui: sprechen Sie Deutsch? 17:50 wahanui rambutan: bugger all, i dunno 19:44 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13235: Move onclick attr to javacsript code <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ac3f497f64c1854a275fe894c1070f5888c1c302> / Bug 13235 - Revise layout of patron search form <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0d4672035ff16d465e649bf8c58860e267498797> / Bug 13373 - [QA Followup] - Update Polish web installer sample data files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/? 19:59 magnuse eythian around yet? 20:23 wizzyrea not yet, another hour or so 20:24 oleonard Hi wizzyrea 20:24 wizzyrea hi oleonard 20:24 wizzyrea :D 20:30 oleonard Bye wizzyrea 20:30 oleonard :D 20:30 wizzyrea D: 20:30 wizzyrea later :) 20:30 jcamins wizzyrea: no snowmageddon where you are? 20:31 wizzyrea it's hot as today 20:31 wizzyrea @wunder nzwn 20:31 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on January 27, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). 20:31 wizzyrea nope. 20:31 wizzyrea no snow. 20:34 jcamins Lucky. 20:34 wizzyrea how about you? hear you're about to get slammed 20:34 jcamins The office closed at 2:30. 20:34 jcamins I wasn't there until then because I had a lunch, so I came home right after lunch. 20:34 jcamins There are several inches of snow outside already. 20:35 wizzyrea wow. 20:35 * jcamins went on the record saying "there won't be much snow." 20:35 * jcamins was wrong. 20:35 wizzyrea eh there are worse things 20:36 jcamins True, but I still don't like snow. 21:11 cbrannon Got a question for anyone. Have you ever heard of Koha creating and attaching items to blank bib records out of the blue? 21:12 cait blank? 21:12 wahanui i think blank is not null 21:13 BobB cbrannon, it can't be blank, there must at least be a biblio number? 21:14 BobB a value in items.biblionumber for these new items? 21:15 cbrannon Sorry, I mean, have ITEMS ever been created by Koha, not a person, and attached to a bib record that has no items? 21:15 BobB ah ok 21:16 BobB The only thing that comes to my mind is when people misinterpret the 'Edit Items' page and create a new one inadvertently .. 21:16 BobB when their intention was to edit an existing one 21:16 BobB otherwise, no 21:16 cait no 21:16 eythian @later tell magnuse sup? 21:16 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded. 21:16 eythian also, hi 21:16 cait cbrannon: could it be possible they have been downloadedfrom another koha catalog via z39.50? 21:17 cait if the downloaded files included a 952 that could do it i gues 21:17 eythian I do that misreading the edit items page thing all the time 21:18 * BobB learnt that one the hard way 21:20 cbrannon Thanks for the feedback. :) 21:29 wizzyrea that edit items page is a significant user experience problem, people doing the wrong thing a lot. 21:29 wizzyrea I'm not sure how to fix it. 21:29 eythian If only we had some UX people handy :) 21:47 eythian mtj: your 3.16 branch still (probably) doesn't build without bug 12642 applied. It really really should go in. 21:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12642 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , SMS.t requires a database 21:48 wizzyrea IF ONLY. 21:54 magnuse are there supposed to be packages for 3.16.7 yet? 21:55 magnuse i have "deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha oldstable main" in sources.list, but after apt-get update i still have 3.16.05.1 as the candidate 21:55 magnuse (when i do "sudo apt-cache policy koha-common") 21:56 eythian magnuse: give me about 20 minutes, I forgot to build them yesterday, but am preparing to do so as I type. 21:56 eythian (you people are so needy ;) 21:56 liw eythian++ 21:58 magnuse eythian++ definitely! 21:58 magnuse and liw++ for old times sake ;-) 21:59 magnuse shouldn't there be a 3.16.6 package, though? 21:59 eythian magnuse: read the changelog 21:59 eythian (when it's released with the packages) 21:59 magnuse hehe, wil do 21:59 eythian short answer: there was some confusion with 3.16.05 and .06. 22:00 magnuse cool, no stress 22:00 eythian due to security patches not being correctly applied, or something. 22:00 eythian long answer: I don't really remember. 22:00 magnuse i was just afraid there was something wonky with my apt 22:16 * cait is not a happy cait 22:16 magnuse ohnoes?!? 22:18 eythian hi cait 22:18 eythian unhappy cait 22:18 cait hi eythian 22:21 eythian magnuse: 22:21 eythian 3... 22:21 eythian 2.5... 22:22 eythian 2... 22:22 eythian 1... 22:22 eythian done! 22:22 * magnuse starts the upgrade 22:30 magnuse ...and it's done 22:30 magnuse thanks eythian! 22:30 eythian any time :) 22:33 eythian http://www.whatwedointheshadows.com/ <-- unrelated, but I recommend you watch this movie. 22:35 magnuse heh, it *actually* starts playing in our local cinema this thursday :-) 22:35 eythian nice :) 22:37 magnuse i just might go see it, then :-) 22:39 * magnuse makes a note of looking at Bug 13431 tomorrow, then falls asleep 22:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13431 critical, P5 - low, ---, abl, Needs Signoff , Shared FastMmap file causes issues 22:58 mtj eythian: thanks for the headsup 23:01 AndroUser Hello koha community! 23:01 AndroUser Testing android chat 23:02 mtj eythian: sms.t seems to be passing OK in jenkins, currently 23:02 AndroUser Test 23:02 mtj ..so, probably ok to leave patch until next release 23:03 schnydszch Sorry for the bother i was just testing androidchat :-) 23:03 mtj works ok schnydszch :) 23:04 schnydszch Thanks mtj! I can now follow koha community chat in my phone. Well aside from the list :-) 23:19 mtj sounds fun ^ 23:19 mtj ..i am looking for a good android irc client too 23:27 mtj this looks perfect 23:27 mtj https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.iskrembilen.quasseldroid&hl=en 23:30 mtj magnuse: im not sure whats up the "sudo apt-cache policy koha-common" 23:32 eythian I use "atomic" 23:32 mtj ta eythian 23:33 mtj fwiw, my policy said 3.16.5.1 too 23:33 eythian (but I haven't compared it to Quassel) 23:33 eythian mtj: it's because of the security patch that needed to be applied twice 23:33 mtj i just apt-get update(d) , now its on 3.16.7 (good) 23:34 eythian yep 23:35 mtj i'm just not sure why the policy was not bumped to 3.16.6 23:35 mtj ..some quirk where apt thinks 3.16.5.1 > 3.16.6 ? 23:35 mtj pass... its fixed now, all god :0) 23:35 mtj good 23:36 eythian no 23:36 mtj no? 23:36 wahanui http://i.imgur.com/hVVuP.jpg 23:36 schnydszch mtj i'm using androirc 23:38 eythian androirc isn't free software 23:38 schnydszch ..and it's my first time using it. It's a mess connecting to koha irc in phone's chrome 23:39 eythian mtj: I'm a little confused really. It might just be I missed the release of it, or I though my .1 was equivalent, or something 23:43 jcamins Help me, wizzyrea. You are my only hope! 23:43 jcamins ... to find out what kind of cookie I should bake. 23:43 jcamins What kind of cookie should I bake? 23:43 cait something with oats 23:45 eythian she's gone for (I presume) lunch 23:48 jcamins Alas. I guess I won't find out what to bake for a little longer, then. 23:48 cait no oats? 23:48 cait :( 23:49 eythian @wunder nzwn 23:50 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0°C (12:30 PM NZDT on January 27, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 23:50 eythian hmm, not living up to the forecast of 27 so far. 23:52 eythian ah, that source is wrong. Apparently it's actually 25. 23:54 wizzyrea jcamins: If I thought you had oreos in the house, I'd suggest inception cookies. 23:54 jcamins Hehe. 23:55 eythian A wise suggestion 23:56 jcamins I do not. 23:57 wizzyrea http://www.delish.com/recipefinder/banana-walnut-chocolate-chunk-cookies-recipe 23:58 * wizzyrea admits to not having great cookie suggestions today because it is so flippin hot out all I want to eat/drink is icecubes. 23:58 wizzyrea maybe juice. 23:59 eythian wizzyrea: have a smoothy from the smoothy place across the road.