| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
|
rangi |
i suspect we are on the same flight for at least one leg of our journeys |
| 00:00 |
|
rangi |
im flying LAN (via qantas) |
| 00:01 |
|
BobB |
hi rangi, you are on the flight from Santiago? |
| 00:01 |
|
BobB |
I get into Santiago late morning and have about 10 hours layover |
| 00:01 |
|
rangi |
yeah ditto |
| 00:02 |
|
BobB |
I'll get hotel room at the airport |
| 00:02 |
|
BobB |
my flight is direct from Sydney; I guess you fly from Auckland? |
| 00:02 |
|
rangi |
i was gonna investigate if they having anything like singapore where you can get a little tour |
| 00:02 |
|
rangi |
yep, wlg->akl->santiago->cordoba |
| 00:03 |
|
BobB |
I have a full day there on the way back, so will take a tour then |
| 00:03 |
|
rangi |
ahh cool |
| 00:03 |
|
rangi |
i only have 4 hours on way back |
| 00:03 |
|
BobB |
not enough to do much |
| 00:04 |
|
rangi |
i land at 12.35 and the leave and 21.15 |
| 00:04 |
|
BobB |
let me check ... |
| 00:04 |
|
rangi |
then leave at even |
| 00:05 |
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| 00:06 |
|
BobB |
rangi I arrive in Santiago at 11.05 and have your flight out |
| 00:06 |
|
rangi |
sweet |
| 00:07 |
|
BobB |
I'll let you know what arrangements I make |
| 00:07 |
|
rangi |
thanks |
| 00:07 |
|
BobB |
nice :) |
| 00:11 |
|
* rangi |
goes for lunch |
| 00:11 |
|
tcohen |
hi rango |
| 00:11 |
|
tcohen |
rangi |
| 00:12 |
|
vinz3g |
hi, good afternoon |
| 00:17 |
|
vinz3g |
Hi I need help for config z39.50 server |
| 00:18 |
|
dcook |
vinz3g: How do you mean config? |
| 00:19 |
|
dcook |
So that Koha can use it or so that you can access it externally? |
| 00:20 |
|
vinz3g |
to access externally |
| 00:21 |
|
vinz3g |
I tried config koha-conf.xml |
| 00:21 |
|
dcook |
That would be the place to do it |
| 00:21 |
|
dcook |
Uncomment the relevant sections, and then probably restart your Zebra server |
| 00:22 |
|
vinz3g |
how restart zebra serve? |
| 00:22 |
|
vinz3g |
server |
| 00:22 |
|
dcook |
Well, how did you install Koha and on what operating system? |
| 00:22 |
|
dcook |
Did you use the Debian packages on Debian? |
| 00:22 |
|
vinz3g |
My SO es Ubuntu |
| 00:23 |
|
dcook |
Ok, did you use the Debian packages? |
| 00:23 |
|
vinz3g |
yes |
| 00:23 |
|
dcook |
Cool |
| 00:23 |
|
dcook |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]oha-restart-zebra |
| 00:23 |
|
dcook |
koha-restart-zebra INSTANCENAME |
| 00:23 |
|
dcook |
That should do the trick |
| 00:24 |
|
vinz3g |
ok! |
| 00:25 |
|
dcook |
After you do that, I'd tried to access it locally (over tcp), and if that works, then try to access it externally |
| 00:25 |
|
dcook |
If you can't, then you probably need to open a port on your router or change a firewall rule |
| 00:25 |
|
vinz3g |
I was using other |
| 00:25 |
|
dcook |
other? |
| 00:25 |
|
wahanui |
i heard other was to add additional counts. |
| 00:26 |
|
vinz3g |
yeah |
| 00:26 |
|
dcook |
What do you mean other? |
| 00:27 |
|
vinz3g |
http://manual.koha-community.o[…]n/resetzebra.html |
| 00:27 |
|
vinz3g |
:( |
| 00:27 |
|
vinz3g |
jaaaaa |
| 00:27 |
|
vinz3g |
thanks the little things |
| 00:28 |
|
dcook |
Sorry, I'm not sure what you're saying |
| 00:28 |
|
dcook |
Those commands would wipe out your Zebra databases |
| 00:29 |
|
vinz3g |
now work z39.50 |
| 00:30 |
|
tcohen |
@later tell jcamins Evergreen's QueryParser tests don't cover loading config from a file, I bet they would fail |
| 00:30 |
|
huginn |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 00:30 |
|
vinz3g |
gracias! son las pequeñas grandes cosas que ayudan a resolver problemas |
| 00:31 |
|
vinz3g |
perdon |
| 00:31 |
|
vinz3g |
sorry |
| 00:31 |
|
dcook |
haha |
| 00:31 |
|
dcook |
I'm glad it's working |
| 00:31 |
|
vinz3g |
Thank you! They are great little things that help solve problems |
| 00:58 |
|
vinz3g |
hi <dcook> |
| 01:00 |
|
vinz3g |
this is what brings me the web connection when I write http://myadress.com:9999 |
| 01:00 |
|
pastebot |
"vinz3g" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "<zs:explainResponse xmlns:zs="" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/148 |
| 01:01 |
|
eythian |
that's talking about SRU, not Z39.50. |
| 01:01 |
|
eythian |
maybe you uncommented the wrong part of your koha-conf.xml |
| 01:04 |
|
vinz3g |
ok |
| 01:08 |
|
pastebot |
"vinz3g" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Uncomment the following entry" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/149 |
| 01:09 |
|
vinz3g |
esa instrucción me confunde |
| 01:09 |
|
vinz3g |
that statement confuses me |
| 01:29 |
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| 01:34 |
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| 01:37 |
|
tcohen |
heh: https://www.change.org/petitio[…]s-email-addresses |
| 01:40 |
|
dcook |
Huzzah. Pen just ran out of ink, but found a new CatalystIT pen in my desk from Kohacon13 :D |
| 01:41 |
|
dcook |
Also a Kohacon13 pen :D |
| 01:41 |
|
dcook |
Although apparently that one is broken :( |
| 01:43 |
|
* tcohen |
hopes kohacon14's reach Australia :-D |
| 01:44 |
|
dcook |
BobB will have to bring me back some ;) |
| 01:45 |
|
tcohen |
:-D |
| 01:45 |
|
BobB |
will be happy to, sorry you can't grab one in person |
| 01:45 |
|
dcook |
:) |
| 01:46 |
|
dcook |
I'll be island hoping in Europe at the time, so don't feel too bad ;) |
| 01:46 |
|
dcook |
hopping* |
| 01:46 |
|
dcook |
Still, wish I could be there |
| 01:46 |
|
eythian |
dcook: it's how we subtly market to you. You should consider catalyst for your Koha support needs ;) |
| 01:46 |
|
BobB |
hmm, tough choice :) |
| 01:46 |
|
dcook |
Well, my wife's birthday is also during that time |
| 01:46 |
|
dcook |
And I'm not making the mistake of going away during her birthday again :p |
| 01:46 |
|
BobB |
No choice! :) |
| 01:47 |
|
dcook |
(Still glad I went to Kohacon13 though :P) |
| 01:47 |
|
dcook |
If only we could travel extremely quickly and cheaply around the globe... |
| 01:57 |
|
eythian |
@wunder nzwn |
| 01:57 |
|
huginn |
eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 6.0°C (1:30 PM NZST on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
| 01:57 |
|
dcook |
@wunder syd |
| 01:57 |
|
huginn |
dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 14.0°C (11:30 AM EST on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Falling). |
| 01:57 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, clearing up a bit at least.. |
| 02:03 |
|
dcook |
Hmm.. |
| 02:04 |
|
dcook |
Potentially figured out a fix for bulkmarcimport.pl...which requires no fix to bulkmarcimport.pl... |
| 02:04 |
|
dcook |
But it would require changing AddAuthority()... |
| 02:04 |
|
dcook |
To be more in line with AddBiblio()... |
| 02:05 |
|
dcook |
Which probably also distrupts too many expectations of how AddAuthority() currently works... |
| 02:07 |
|
dcook |
Of course that somewhat invalidates some of my ranting yesterday... |
| 02:08 |
|
* dcook |
shrugs |
| 02:11 |
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| 02:14 |
|
eythian |
I'm currently trying to deal with the impedance mismatch of people who had one way of working, and trying to get as close to that as resonably possible with koha. |
| 02:14 |
|
eythian |
It's always a little tricky |
| 02:17 |
|
dcook |
? |
| 02:17 |
|
dcook |
BobB: Are you having any problems with LibrariesAustralia Z39.50? |
| 02:17 |
|
dcook |
I'm getting time outs, so I'm thinking their server is down again |
| 02:18 |
|
eythian |
well, they're moving from a non-MARC system to Koha, and have some custom fields etc. so I'm trying to fit them in to the most correct place in MARC that does what they want. |
| 02:18 |
|
dcook |
Ahhhh |
| 02:18 |
|
dcook |
Ah, I also read "one way of working" as "one day of working" |
| 02:18 |
|
dcook |
My bad |
| 02:18 |
|
tcohen |
eythian: field 1000 |
| 02:18 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
| 02:18 |
|
BobB |
not that I am aware, hold on dcook, I'll test |
| 02:19 |
|
eythian |
tcohen: :D |
| 02:19 |
|
dcook |
BobB: thanks :) |
| 02:20 |
|
BobB |
dcook 'connection failed' |
| 02:22 |
|
BobB |
http://downforeveryoneorjustme[…]ia.nla.gov.au:210 |
| 02:22 |
|
dcook |
BobB: Sweet. Glad it's not just us then. |
| 02:24 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, I never thought about trying that |
| 02:24 |
|
dcook |
Neato |
| 02:25 |
|
eythian |
I'm a little surprised that works, I guess dfeojm doesn't actually check to see if it speaks http |
| 02:26 |
|
dcook |
I was surprised too |
| 02:27 |
|
dcook |
But LoC and NLM give back 404 messages that are prefaced with a Yaz version |
| 02:27 |
|
eythian |
ahh |
| 02:38 |
|
vinz3g |
I still have the z39.50, achievement make the connection but it says the database is not available |
| 02:40 |
|
dcook |
vinz3g: That probably means that nothing has been indexed |
| 02:41 |
|
dcook |
As you mentioned running the commands from this page (http://manual.koha-community.o[…]/resetzebra.html), that doesn't surprise me |
| 02:42 |
|
dcook |
Add some records into Koha, then run this command: "sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v instancename" |
| 02:42 |
|
dcook |
Then the database should be available and should return records |
| 02:42 |
|
vinz3g |
ok, i tried |
| 02:47 |
|
vinz3g |
Permission denied at /usr/share/perl5/XML/SAX/Expat.pm :( |
| 02:49 |
|
vinz3g |
jo jo change the permissions working |
| 02:49 |
|
vinz3g |
now |
| 02:57 |
|
eythian |
it's good to watch link_bibs_to_authorities.pl working |
| 02:57 |
|
eythian |
and saying that it's doing things |
| 03:12 |
|
eythian |
hrm, the linker, when run in test mode, says "0 bibs modified", which is correct but totally unhelpful. |
| 03:12 |
|
eythian |
It should say how many it would have done. |
| 03:15 |
|
dcook |
Probably :/ |
| 03:47 |
|
indradg |
bug 12735 |
| 03:47 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12735 minor, P5 - low, ---, nengard, NEW , Koha as a CMS manual entry does not reflect bootstrap template usage |
| 03:53 |
|
rangi |
@wunder nzwn |
| 03:53 |
|
huginn |
rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 4.0°C (3:30 PM NZST on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising). |
| 03:53 |
|
rangi |
that temp is dropping fast |
| 03:53 |
|
rangi |
apparently snow in newlands |
| 03:55 |
|
eythian |
urf |
| 03:55 |
|
indradg |
@wunder kolkata |
| 03:55 |
|
huginn |
indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 29.0°C (9:20 AM IST on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 27.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady). |
| 03:55 |
|
eythian |
I might leave my bike at work given I forgot my rain/cold gear. |
| 03:56 |
|
dcook |
@wunder syd |
| 03:56 |
|
huginn |
dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 15.0°C (1:00 PM EST on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Falling). |
| 03:56 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, I should go for a walk... |
| 04:15 |
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| 04:15 |
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cbrannon |
hi #koha! |
| 04:19 |
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cbrannon |
identify |
| 04:20 |
|
cbrannon |
IDENTIFY |
| 04:20 |
|
cbrannon |
ugh |
| 04:22 |
|
dcook |
http://www.cbc.ca/thisisthat/b[…]f-alberta-canada/ |
| 04:22 |
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| 04:37 |
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cbrannon |
hello #koha |
| 04:38 |
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cbrannon |
koha? |
| 04:38 |
|
wahanui |
it has been said that koha is a free software ils see http://koha-community.org for more info |
| 04:38 |
|
cbrannon |
NateC? |
| 04:38 |
|
wahanui |
I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE |
| 04:38 |
|
cbrannon |
JesseM? |
| 04:38 |
|
wahanui |
rumour has it JesseM is new to the committers list (from yesterday) |
| 04:40 |
|
cbrannon |
register |
| 04:41 |
|
cbrannon |
nickserv? |
| 04:44 |
|
cbrannon |
anyone home? |
| 04:47 |
|
dcook |
Hmm? |
| 04:48 |
|
cbrannon |
dcook: FINALLY got VM running. :) Although everyone has different opinions on packages and git. :/ |
| 04:49 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
| 04:49 |
|
dcook |
I imagine so |
| 04:49 |
|
dcook |
Glad you got it running in the end |
| 04:49 |
|
dcook |
If it helps, rangi is really good at what he does |
| 04:49 |
|
cbrannon |
Just have to gitify it now. Working on that. |
| 04:49 |
|
* dcook |
would listen to his advice |
| 04:49 |
|
dcook |
Cool\ |
| 04:50 |
|
cbrannon |
question - do I have to register my nickname? |
| 04:50 |
|
dcook |
Btw, if you want to communicate with NickServ, you'll need to message it like "/msg NickServ" (without the quotes) |
| 04:50 |
|
dcook |
Nope |
| 04:51 |
|
dcook |
But it's not a bad idea if you're on IRC a lot |
| 04:51 |
|
dcook |
If you don't register it, someone else could use it |
| 04:51 |
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cbrannon |
Thanks. Still figuring this all out. |
| 04:51 |
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dcook |
They could pretend to be you, or...when you want to use it, you might not be able to because they're using it |
| 04:51 |
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dcook |
IRC can take some figuring, but it's pretty useful :) |
| 04:54 |
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cbrannon |
hmmm....says my name is registered. Is there a way to look up who it is regestered to? |
| 04:55 |
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| 04:59 |
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mtj |
cbrannon: you can ask the nicksrv bot |
| 04:59 |
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mtj |
/msg nickserv INFO cbrannon |
| 04:59 |
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cbrannon |
just found it. Thanks :) |
| 05:02 |
|
dcook |
Neat. I never knew about that trick. |
| 05:02 |
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dcook |
heya cait |
| 05:03 |
|
cait |
morning:) |
| 05:03 |
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dcook |
Oh yeah...mtj, I figured I'd share my latest bulkmarcimport.pl stuff with you |
| 05:04 |
|
dcook |
I ended up using... bulkmarcimport.pl -a -file="blahblah.mrc" -match "Identifier-Standard,001" -keepids=035a |
| 05:04 |
|
dcook |
I had to change the Zebra indexing to also index 035$a into Identifier-Standard, but it works a treat |
| 05:05 |
|
dcook |
When you do an add, the 001 will be the same as auth_header.authid |
| 05:05 |
|
dcook |
Also if you do an update, the 001 will get nuked :/ |
| 05:05 |
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dcook |
But it's ok, because the 001 will be populated with auth_header.authid when indexing |
| 05:05 |
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* dcook |
would prefer consistent data, but it's not a huge problem |
| 05:07 |
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dcook |
Technically, we should be doing a better job moving the 001 into the 035$a...but...I don't particularly care just right now :p |
| 05:07 |
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dcook |
Bug report filed. |
| 05:09 |
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mtj |
thanks dcook, ill take your advice |
| 05:10 |
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dcook |
:) |
| 05:11 |
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dcook |
Of course, if there is no match, I think it just gets added as a new authority, which is perhaps sub-optimal |
| 05:11 |
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dcook |
But the war of metadata management will not be solved today |
| 05:19 |
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mtj |
i guess the script needs a few diff. modes |
| 05:23 |
|
mtj |
...add/update or update-only |
| 05:24 |
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mtj |
hmm, is it possible to get those 2 behaviours, with the current script |
| 05:24 |
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CPBrannon |
Anyone know what it means to "create your first koha instance"? What is an instance? |
| 05:24 |
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mtj |
anyhoo.. i look later |
| 05:25 |
|
mtj |
an instance is a koha |
| 05:25 |
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mtj |
CPBrannon: ^^ |
| 05:27 |
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CPBrannon |
(hm) |
| 05:27 |
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cait |
if you are using packages |
| 05:27 |
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CPBrannon |
yes |
| 05:27 |
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cait |
you can have multiple kohas on one server running from the same code |
| 05:28 |
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cait |
one if them then would be an 'instance' :) |
| 05:28 |
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CPBrannon |
ah |
| 05:28 |
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CPBrannon |
thanks for translating. :) |
| 05:28 |
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cait |
so it might refer to doing someting like koha-create --create-db or similar |
| 05:29 |
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dcook |
mtj: I don't think it's possible to get those behaviours at the moment. The documentation for the script says that -u will only do updates, but it's a lie |
| 05:29 |
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dcook |
The only downside of having figured out a solution is that now I have less incentive to fix things for others :( |
| 05:29 |
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dcook |
I have to move on to the next problem... |
| 05:29 |
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CPBrannon |
cait: So I'm supposed to use the name of my instance in a command. I'm not sure what my instance is actually called. |
| 05:30 |
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dcook |
CPBrannon: When you're creating it for the first time, you can choose the name |
| 05:30 |
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cait |
i haven'tdone much with packages so far, but i think koha-list shoudl show you |
| 05:30 |
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cait |
ah right, also that :) sorry, i haven't been awkae for long enough yet |
| 05:33 |
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CPBrannon |
okay. Think I got it. :) |
| 05:34 |
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mtj |
CPBrannon: just make a new one, to test... |
| 05:34 |
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mtj |
# koha-create --create-db koha1 |
| 05:34 |
|
mtj |
# koha-create --create-db koha2 |
| 05:34 |
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mtj |
# koha-remove koha1 |
| 05:34 |
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mtj |
# koha-remove koha2 |
| 05:35 |
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dcook |
Man...packages are the best |
| 05:41 |
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CPBrannon |
So, I think the instance I have is just called koha. When I tried creating koha1, it says Koha instance is empty, no staff user created. ERROR: Site koha1 does not exist! |
| 05:46 |
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cait |
hm |
| 05:46 |
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cait |
haven't seen that yet i think |
| 05:52 |
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| 06:04 |
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CPBrannon |
I did it! :) (Happy Dance) |
| 06:05 |
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dcook |
Well done :) |
| 06:05 |
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CPBrannon |
Now, I just have to help teach others in the morning. |
| 06:06 |
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| 06:06 |
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pianohacker |
yo |
| 06:07 |
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CPBrannon |
yo pianohacker |
| 06:07 |
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dcook |
hey pianohacker |
| 06:07 |
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wahanui |
somebody said pianohacker was a Dune fan, it seems. |
| 06:07 |
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dcook |
CPBrannon: Sharing knowledge is always good :) |
| 06:07 |
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pianohacker |
@later tell cait wait, what? what tags? and when? |
| 06:07 |
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huginn |
pianohacker: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:07 |
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pianohacker |
hi guys |
| 06:08 |
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dcook |
pianohacker: If you look at the XSLT, I think you'll see the indicator with "z" in it |
| 06:08 |
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pianohacker |
just checking in real quick, long day and I didn't get in as early as I expected, impromptu movie night |
| 06:08 |
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pianohacker |
wat |
| 06:08 |
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cait |
pianohacker: 9xx tags - not sure if only in our union catalog or national |
| 06:08 |
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CPBrannon |
Ninja Turtles? |
| 06:08 |
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cait |
pianohacker: woud be nice if rancor didn't freak out about it |
| 06:08 |
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wnickc |
TMNT was awesome! |
| 06:09 |
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cait |
i thin ours are within a-z |
| 06:09 |
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CPBrannon |
Glad you enjoyed it. :) |
| 06:09 |
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pianohacker |
ah lord 9xx tags, the bane of my existence |
| 06:09 |
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pianohacker |
that and crap like 02d |
| 06:09 |
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pianohacker |
kk, cait, I'll make sure it does |
| 06:09 |
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CPBrannon |
wnickc: got the VM up and gitified |
| 06:09 |
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pianohacker |
cait: but... why? |
| 06:09 |
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dcook |
02d? |
| 06:10 |
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dcook |
I thought there was only 01e :S |
| 06:10 |
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dcook |
Aha! |
| 06:10 |
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dcook |
pianohacker: MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl |
| 06:10 |
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dcook |
<xsl:for-each select="marc:datafield[(@tag=111 or @tag=711) and @ind1!='z']"> |
| 06:10 |
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cait |
pianohacker: hm? |
| 06:11 |
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dcook |
I think jcamins added "z" as an indicator 1 for certain authority-related stuff |
| 06:11 |
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cait |
dcook: yep - if you want to search for the see also - there is a pref for that |
| 06:11 |
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pianohacker |
oh yeah I'm thinking of 01e. Either way, GAH. MARC. |
| 06:11 |
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cait |
so those get included in the records at indexing tiem to enhance search |
| 06:11 |
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cait |
pianohacker: gah marc. |
| 06:11 |
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dcook |
Yeah, I was thinking that might be added at indexing time... |
| 06:11 |
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cait |
i ahve seen r v as indicators in ours |
| 06:11 |
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* dcook |
shrugs |
| 06:11 |
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dcook |
Also... |
| 06:11 |
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dcook |
MARC-- |
| 06:12 |
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cait |
for rvk classification things |
| 06:12 |
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pianohacker |
cait: I was curious why your union catalog has non-numeric indicators |
| 06:12 |
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dcook |
Actually fairly impressed with Zebra. It's indexed nearly 635,000 authority records in about 2 hours |
| 06:12 |
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cait |
ah, i am not sure, maybe they ran out of numeric ones |
| 06:12 |
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wnickc |
cpbrannon: awesome, this is why you get to lead tomorrow :) |
| 06:12 |
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pianohacker |
dear lord. Wouldn't surprise me |
| 06:13 |
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pianohacker |
marc-- |
| 06:13 |
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dcook |
marc-- |
| 06:13 |
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pianohacker |
every time I think I have alllll the weirdness pinned down, something new sticks its head out |
| 06:13 |
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cait |
i know |
| 06:13 |
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dcook |
Yep. It's the non-standard of standards. |
| 06:13 |
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cait |
go to bed :) |
| 06:13 |
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pianohacker |
like I only found out about 880 fields the other day! |
| 06:13 |
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pianohacker |
@marc 880 |
| 06:13 |
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huginn |
pianohacker: The fully content-designated representation, in a different script, of another field in the same record. Field 880 is linked to the associated regular field by subfield $6 (Linkage). The first and second indicator positions in field 880 have the same definition and values as the indicators in the associated field. The subfield codes in field 880 are the same as those defined in the associated field (1 more message) |
| 06:14 |
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pianohacker |
You can attach versions of fields in different scripts to almost anything, and there's all these semi-standards and different workflows around that linkage. |
| 06:14 |
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cait |
oh 880 |
| 06:14 |
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cait |
we have lots of those |
| 06:14 |
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cait |
if you need examples |
| 06:15 |
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CPBrannon |
y start loading apache mysql and koha? That's going to take some time. |
| 06:15 |
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pianohacker |
If rancor ever adds support, I will definitely be talking to people for examples. Thank you :) |
| 06:15 |
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* dcook |
hopes MARC dies before that |
| 06:15 |
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cait |
pianohacker: hm what do you mean by adding support? |
| 06:15 |
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CPBrannon |
wnickc: um...yeah. I'll fumble through what I managed. So, I know folks are hopefully pre-loading debian, but what about when they start loading apache, mysql and koha? |
| 06:15 |
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pianohacker |
cait: making linkage semi-automatic like connexion |
| 06:15 |
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CPBrannon |
wnickc: sorry, finger slipped. |
| 06:16 |
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cait |
but you could manually enter now? |
| 06:16 |
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pianohacker |
aka it takes care of the linkage identifiers |
| 06:16 |
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pianohacker |
yes |
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cait |
ok |
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CPBrannon |
wnickc: Those loads are going to take time. |
| 06:16 |
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pianohacker |
dcook: if MARC dies before rancor has been polished and used for a good long time I will be very sad |
| 06:16 |
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wnickc |
they are, but not crazy amounts of time, and if we stagger folks it should give us the opportunity to float around |
| 06:17 |
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* dcook |
mangles the URL to view the mar |
| 06:17 |
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dcook |
marc* |
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cait |
dcook: yeah it's hidden there - what i do is download the marcxml :) |
| 06:17 |
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cait |
and open it directly in my editor, if i need to check something |
| 06:17 |
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wnickc |
cpbrannon:downtime can be used for searching for bugs we can reasonably handle |
| 06:18 |
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dcook |
pianohacker: good point |
| 06:18 |
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cait |
dcook: don't wonder about the strange 9xx duplication - we do that in order to index better (with grs1) |
| 06:18 |
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wnickc |
or asking in here what koha might want us to look at |
| 06:18 |
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cait |
dcook: 880 could only be indexed in total, we divided the info up a bit on 9xx fields additionally, so we could index as author, title, etc |
| 06:18 |
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cait |
dcook: thisis hopefully going to go away with dom at some point |
| 06:19 |
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CPBrannon |
wnickc: So, I'm thinking that the link bag gave me today (https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify) was the cleanest and most straight forward. Why didn't I see that one first??? |
| 06:19 |
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pianohacker |
jeez. Not counting libraries and JS embedded in script tags, Rancor has 3/4 as much JS as the entire rest of the staff client (~3000 lines vs ~4000) |
| 06:20 |
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CPBrannon |
pianohacker: that's awesome. :) |
| 06:21 |
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pianohacker |
awesome and terrifying. I've been working on this for a long time! |
| 06:21 |
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pianohacker |
I don't really write Perl anymore... |
| 06:22 |
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* cait |
votes for terrifying |
| 06:22 |
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pianohacker |
hi qam |
| 06:22 |
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* cait |
waves ;) |
| 06:22 |
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cait |
i hope for you all your licenses are compatibel and libraries added to the about page :P |
| 06:22 |
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CPBrannon |
pianohacker: sorry for jumping in - is rancor the new cataloging module? |
| 06:23 |
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pianohacker |
I think that was mentioned in the last QA round (maybe for bug 10486 instead)? The licenses are compatible, but I need to add them to the about page. My heart almost stopped before I figured out everything was GPL/MIT |
| 06:23 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10486 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , Allow external Z39.50 targets to be searched from the OPAC |
| 06:23 |
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pianohacker |
CPBrannon: yes, rancor is the not-secret codename :) |
| 06:24 |
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wnickc |
cpbrannon: I don't know, I think because of the whole back and for about to gitify or not to gitify |
| 06:25 |
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pianohacker |
okay, I need to head towards bed. Good to see you all :) |
| 06:26 |
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CPBrannon |
wnickc: yes, I know...don't get me started. No one can agree on a solid method. But the packages are what I got working and that's what I'm going with if you throw it in my court. :D |
| 06:27 |
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CPBrannon |
wnickc: besides, it sounded like the issues were marginal (something to do with crons?) according to kh. |
| 06:27 |
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wnickc |
I think they will be fine, those who want to be advanced and compile from git can do so later |
| 06:27 |
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wnickc |
did you get gitbz up and running too? |
| 06:28 |
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CPBrannon |
I won't know or understand the difference until I start doing stuff and cait tells me I am screwing something up. |
| 06:29 |
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CPBrannon |
Really? I just got gitify done. Nope. I haven't touched it yet. Guess we'll have to do it on the fly. |
| 06:30 |
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wnickc |
you can do it without bz, can give them bz as homework |
| 06:30 |
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wnickc |
it just makes life easier |
| 06:30 |
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cait |
you can still do git-format |
| 06:30 |
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cait |
i think - it's just a bit mean when you have lots of patches on a bug |
| 06:32 |
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CPBrannon |
I'm still trying to wrap my head around it. KH was pretty fast in the walkthrough. I had to back him up a couple times, and I still don't think I got it all. I'll have to go over my notes again and again and see what I can do. I don't think I could convey half of what he shared though. |
| 06:33 |
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dcook |
Well, there are usually knowledgeable folks on here to help as well |
| 06:33 |
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dcook |
for help* |
| 06:33 |
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CPBrannon |
who? ;) |
| 06:33 |
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dcook |
Oh, it's just what I hear :p |
| 06:34 |
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wnickc |
cpbrannon: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ration#Get_git-bz |
| 06:34 |
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CPBrannon |
I'm just kiddin you. Yep. I couldn't have gotten this far without you guys. |
| 06:34 |
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wnickc |
it's not a rough process, we can do in am prob |
| 06:35 |
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dcook |
Yeah, Git BZ is a pretty easy set up |
| 06:35 |
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dcook |
So useful too |
| 06:35 |
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dcook |
So so useful |
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cait |
super useful |
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cait |
everytime an update breaks it |
| 06:37 |
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cait |
i am a very unhappy qam |
| 06:37 |
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cait |
and now i need to go to work :) |
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cait |
bbiab |
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wnickc |
cpbrannon: oh yeah, cloning git is not fast |
| 06:39 |
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wnickc |
stupid hotel wifi |
| 06:39 |
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ashimema |
gitbz++ |
| 06:40 |
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ashimema |
morning #koha |
| 06:40 |
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CPBrannon |
I'm calling it a night too. See you in the morning wnickc. I'll try and come in a bit early...if you are there, we can make some plans. (cloaning - yep) MY wifi is pretty darn good. :) |
| 06:40 |
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wnickc |
morning ashimema |
| 06:40 |
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ashimema |
how are peeps today. sounds like your all at a conferance? |
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CPBrannon |
wnickc: schedule starts at 10am. I may just come in at 9am again. Because I can. |
| 06:41 |
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wnickc |
NAKUG |
| 06:41 |
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wnickc |
North America Koha Users Group |
| 06:42 |
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ashimema |
take it that's an american one.. oh cool |
| 06:42 |
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CPBrannon |
I hate acronyms :P |
| 06:42 |
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ashimema |
I'm slowly trying to build up a decent users group in the UK at the moment. |
| 06:42 |
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ashimema |
we're getting there. |
| 06:42 |
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CPBrannon |
Yep...it's been pretty good for being the first one too. |
| 06:42 |
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wnickc |
ashimema: any progress on PTFS Europe sandboxes? Just curious |
| 06:42 |
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ashimema |
plenty of users.. they just arent that good at talking to each other yet ;) |
| 06:43 |
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ashimema |
not ye I'm afraid.. had very little time to get back to them of late.. |
| 06:43 |
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CPBrannon |
goodnight #koha |
| 06:43 |
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ashimema |
there's something wrong with the server they're on and I've not found out what yet. |
| 06:43 |
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wnickc |
see you in the morning cpbrannon |
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ashimema |
Our sandboxes are all hosted on one machines.. whereas the biblibre one's have a vm each I believe.. |
| 06:44 |
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ashimema |
that's the challenge I'm facing.. multi-tenant sandboxes |
| 06:45 |
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ashimema |
I've recently been hitting bug 8446 hard instead. |
| 06:45 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8446 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Shibboleth authentication patch |
| 06:45 |
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wnickc |
ah...beyond my knowledge |
| 06:45 |
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wnickc |
but good luck |
| 06:47 |
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ashimema |
you've inspired me to take a look at the sandboxes again this morning now. |
| 06:48 |
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wnickc |
ashimema++ |
| 06:50 |
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wnickc |
we are pushing sandboxes hard to the group so hopefully they will be well used |
| 06:54 |
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ashimema |
:) |
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dcook |
Friday night time! |
| 07:13 |
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dcook |
Have a good Friday/weekend, folks! |
| 07:25 |
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Viktor |
Is there any "show borrowers remaining issue count" in sysprefs that I missed? Would be great to at a glance be able to confirm "Yes that was the last book on your account" when returning. |
| 07:39 |
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wnickc |
good night all |
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* cait |
waves |
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cait |
@later tell nengard I think one of the sandboxes might still be reserved for testing the utf-8 bug |
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huginn |
cait: The operation succeeded. |
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ashimema |
anyone seen this error with git bz |
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ashimema |
NameError: global name 'host' is not defined |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, ashimema. |
| 09:44 |
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Viktor |
I remember having that problem when first trying to get a working dev install ashimema - think you along with cait and magnuse helped me out. |
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indradg |
@wunder kolkata |
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huginn |
indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 30.0°C (2:50 PM IST on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 27.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:47 |
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Viktor |
ashimema As boom I'm not in any position to help with any git bz problems. But in my particular case the logs seems to suggest it was "git config bz.default-tracker bugs.koha-community.org" that finally settled it. |
| 09:48 |
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Viktor |
"as noob" - dyac |
| 09:52 |
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ashimema |
got the bugger. |
| 09:52 |
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ashimema |
somehow the bz user details had dissapeared from the config.. |
| 09:53 |
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Viktor |
Yay. |
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ashimema |
in fact.. then entire .gitconfig for each user of the system had gone.. (except for one). |
| 09:53 |
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ashimema |
so.. what that means in the grand scheme.. |
| 09:53 |
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ashimema |
ptfs-europe sandboxes are back up and running.. |
| 09:53 |
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ashimema |
I'll update the snadbox page on the wiki as I re-enable them all one by one. |
| 09:57 |
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Viktor |
Weirdness with "Koha as cms". I get a "software error" template process failed: file error - /home/viktor/koha/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl//prog/en/modules/pages.tt: not found at /home/viktor/koha/C4/Templates.pl line 131 |
| 09:59 |
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ashimema |
you have a / too many in there.. |
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ashimema |
opac-tmpl//prog |
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ashimema |
should be opac-tmpl/prog |
| 10:00 |
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ashimema |
I reckon. |
| 10:00 |
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Viktor |
Yep - wonder why. |
| 10:00 |
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Viktor |
Escpecially since I'm running bootstrap |
| 10:00 |
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ashimema |
;) |
| 10:00 |
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ashimema |
it'll be in the code somewhere I reckon. |
| 10:01 |
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Viktor |
It might be my install that's messed up, but I've taken care to follow the updated instructions. |
| 10:01 |
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ashimema |
did you do the vhost alias bit.. |
| 10:02 |
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ashimema |
that may also be the issue.. |
| 10:02 |
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ashimema |
I've messed that up before ;) |
| 10:02 |
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Viktor |
No I waited with that. |
| 10:03 |
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Viktor |
And I wonder why the new files I created would make Templates.pm look for the wrong file path. |
| 10:06 |
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cait |
ashimema++ |
| 10:06 |
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cait |
ptfs-europe++ |
| 10:06 |
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Viktor |
(messing around with stuff. My pages.tt might have been eaten) |
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Viktor |
Ok I'll have to confess for the logs: it was my fault Koha as CMS acted up. |
| 10:12 |
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Viktor |
I copied the files to Home, edited them, saved and moved them to the rights dirs (all visually with nautilus and gedit). Then may have double checked the files and saved the .tt file back to home. |
| 10:13 |
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cait |
not sure i can follow - ubt i am glad you figured it out :) |
| 10:14 |
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cait |
Viktor: indradg has updated the wiki page yesterday |
| 10:15 |
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* indradg |
waves |
| 10:15 |
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Viktor |
cait Yes I saw and got curious to try it out :) Thanks indradg! |
| 10:16 |
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cait |
:) |
| 10:16 |
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* cait |
waves back |
| 10:16 |
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indradg |
Viktor: things are working for you now? |
| 10:16 |
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Viktor |
Works like a charm :) |
| 10:17 |
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Viktor |
I like the CMS-functionality and would love to see it expanded. Was doing a little hack of my own to get tabbed navigation before the summer. |
| 10:18 |
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indradg |
i'm writing a plugin to give a koha news editor style interface for the CMS |
| 10:18 |
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Viktor |
I might bug you guys here on how to get a clean way to create nav tabs later. |
| 10:19 |
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Viktor |
Great news indradg++ |
| 10:19 |
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cait |
indradg: cool idea :) |
| 10:20 |
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cait |
it would be nice if it was less 'hacky' - a lot of people seem to use or want to use it |
| 10:20 |
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Viktor |
That would be very useful. I have no problem with pasting code, but an editor helps a _lot_ for most people. |
| 10:20 |
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indradg |
I *hate* the idea of having to input the content via sys pref - (a) easy to mess up other things (b) allot userflag with lower perms to update these |
| 10:21 |
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Viktor |
Yep. Not very clean at all... |
| 10:21 |
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indradg |
i'm wrapping the mceditor that we already have in place for other things like kohanews |
| 10:21 |
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indradg |
thanks cait :) |
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ashimema |
I've been tempted to do a proper patch fro koha as cms for years.. |
| 10:32 |
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ashimema |
never gotten around to it.. |
| 10:32 |
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ashimema |
I'd happily test if someone got round to it though ;) |
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bgkriegel |
morning |
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bgkriegel |
@wunder cordoba, argentina |
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huginn |
bgkriegel: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 3.8°C (7:55 AM ART on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady). |
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ashimema |
@later tell matts_away Any chance you could take a look at the last two followups for bug 8446 pretty please. |
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huginn |
ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
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ashimema |
matts_away has been away for a while.. wonder if he's on holiday |
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cait |
maybe |
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Viktor |
What's the most reasonable way to translate when you are multiple translators? I don't really like the online tool and prefer poedit... |
| 11:48 |
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Viktor |
(but overwriting the existing file with my offline might of course kill off progress others made online during the day) |
| 11:49 |
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cait |
Viktor: it's nt perfect, but i usually stick with the online tool now that we are more translators involved |
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cait |
if i wanted tow rok on clean up, i have send an email to them in the past, to ot make changes until i reuploaded the files |
| 11:51 |
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Viktor |
Thanks cait - I'll probably have to learn to live with using Pootle then. But an email "keep out today" system sounds promising too. |
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cait |
i like the search options of poedit - so for making sure the same term was used everywhere in the beginning, that was quite useful |
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Viktor |
indradg by the way: when doing the CMS-patch will you work on auto creation of navigation for the pages too? |
| 11:56 |
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Viktor |
cait - Useful indeed. What I like about poedit is good keyboard shortcuts and fast ways to browse for low hanging fruit. |
| 11:57 |
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cait |
ashimema++ |
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cait |
Viktor: the new pootle has keyboard shortcuts - maybe take alook if that makes your life a littleeasier |
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Viktor |
Thanks cait - that sounds promising! |
| 12:01 |
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Viktor |
Have a nice weekend folks! I'm heading afk now. |
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tcohen |
morning |
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ashimema |
morning tcohen |
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tcohen |
@wunder cordoba, argentina |
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huginn |
tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 7.6°C (9:45 AM ART on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Steady). |
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tcohen |
hi ashimema |
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tcohen |
nice job with the shibboleth patches |
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ashimema |
Cheers.. hopefully the last two are up to scratch.. one being a fairly chunky re-factor.. and the second being the tests. |
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ashimema |
not sure i've caught everything in those tests yet.. feel free to scrutinise ;) |
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tcohen |
bug 12738 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12738 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Search behaviour inconsistent with QueryParser on Perl 5.18 |
| 13:42 |
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ashimema |
oooh. |
| 13:43 |
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ashimema |
tcohen that's the bug I was looking for only moments ago. |
| 13:43 |
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ashimema |
wanted to point bug 10542 at it.. |
| 13:43 |
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tcohen |
i have the fix, and am struggling to get a regression test for it |
| 13:43 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10542 critical, P1 - high, ---, martin.renvoize, Failed QA , QueryParser + OpacSuppression doesn't allow search in 'all libraries' |
| 13:43 |
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ashimema |
didn't realise it hadn't acutally been opened yet! |
| 13:44 |
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ashimema |
you have the fix.. awesome! |
| 13:44 |
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ashimema |
may I be of any assistance? |
| 13:45 |
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tcohen |
the problem is that each ru nof a perl script shares the same hash seed |
| 13:45 |
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tcohen |
i need to randomize that between calls to the same method, so the non-determinism is reproduced inside the unit tests file |
| 13:49 |
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ashimema |
challenging. |
| 13:51 |
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tcohen |
it seems... I might need to mock keys, to make sure it is truly random inside the same run |
| 13:51 |
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ashimema |
I'm slightly confused.. I thought the tests were already failing due to this randomisation. |
| 13:51 |
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ashimema |
or were they inconsistently failing.. |
| 13:52 |
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ashimema |
or is it that your trying to get the test to fail on an older perl that doesn't do the randomization. |
| 13:53 |
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tcohen |
there are two problems: tests failing for the QueryParser PQF driver |
| 13:54 |
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tcohen |
and the bug i mentioned, which is related, but is not the same |
| 13:54 |
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tcohen |
t/QueryParser.t tests the PQF driver behaviour |
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ashimema |
from Colin: there are tests in perl 5.18 for this to ensure that the seed is not repeated over successive iterations. Is his prob is he needs to emulate that on older perls? |
| 13:55 |
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tcohen |
ashimema: the question would be what is he calling iterations |
| 13:55 |
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tcohen |
each time I run the test, a different seed is used |
| 13:55 |
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ashimema |
indeed.. |
| 13:55 |
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tcohen |
i want to make same same function call inside the same "run" |
| 13:56 |
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tcohen |
and have different results |
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ashimema |
I see.. a different seed per call of the same function inside the same run of the script overall.. |
| 13:58 |
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ashimema |
brain is catching up... |
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* tcohen |
doesn't want to introduce a new dependency, like Hash::Util... |
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ashimema |
that reminds me.. |
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ashimema |
I must check whether my tests introduce any dependancies.. |
| 14:03 |
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ashimema |
and tidy up the debuging cruft.. think I forgot to do that |
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ashimema |
so your looking to change 'PERL_HASH_SEED' during a script run.. between function calls. I see, and 'PERL_HASH_SEED' expects a binary value encoded hex string |
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ashimema |
tcohen: from colin (he's palyed with this a fair bit i beleive): Each time you create a hash you should get a random seed.. so if your sub does a %hash = @array; @x = keys %hash; The order of @x sould differ each time it is called (provided @array is big enough). The release docs suggests that modules should run tests repeatedly to ensure that sequence isnt predictable. I assume there are similar tests in the perl source |
| 14:19 |
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ashimema |
distrib |
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tcohen |
yeah, I cannot reproduce that expected behaviour |
| 14:21 |
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cait |
ashimema: i think we installed some packaces for shibboleth |
| 14:22 |
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tcohen |
i'm thinking of forking with fixed PERL_HASH_SEED for each |
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ashimema |
sounds fair.. |
| 14:23 |
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ashimema |
really odd that you can't get the expected behaviour.. |
| 14:23 |
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ashimema |
that almost sounds like a perl bug in itself. |
| 14:23 |
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ashimema |
huh cait? |
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wahanui |
somebody said cait was a bit worried about lumping all code into a single file a sa first step |
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cait |
you said you needed to check that and clean up debugging... |
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* cait |
blames her headache for not making sens |
| 14:24 |
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ashimema |
i'm even more confused now cait. |
| 14:25 |
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ashimema |
my last shibboleth patch.. adds unit tests.. I need to check whether the required Test::* dependancies are already in koha.. I forgot to.. |
| 14:25 |
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ashimema |
And.. whilst writing the tests I has stuff like 'use Data::Dumper' which cna now go ;) |
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ashimema |
that's what I meant. |
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cait |
ok |
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tcohen |
how do i get the location of a script from inside the script? |
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ashimema |
use File::Basename; |
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ashimema |
my $dirname = dirname(__FILE__); |
| 14:40 |
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ashimema |
or at least.. I think that's how I did it a while back. |
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ashimema |
http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]that-is-executing |
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tcohen |
ashimema: regression test ready :-D |
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ashimema |
awesome! |
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wahanui |
That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, ashimema |
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ashimema |
damnit |
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wnickc |
ashimema: the sandboxes are back?!?! |
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wnickc |
hooray! |
| 14:43 |
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ashimema |
indeed.. |
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ashimema |
I fixed them this morning.. |
| 14:43 |
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ashimema |
wasn't anything to do with what I thought it was.. |
| 14:43 |
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ashimema |
was actually a git bz bug. |
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ashimema |
sorted none the less |
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ashimema |
hows the conferance going out there? |
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wnickc |
thnak you! |
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wnickc |
not started yet, 9am |
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wnickc |
pacific us time |
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cait |
ashimema++ |
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cait |
ptfs-europe++ :) |
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cait |
@karma ptfs-europe |
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huginn |
cait: Karma for "ptfs-europe" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2. |
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cait |
@karma ptfs_europe |
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huginn |
cait: Karma for "ptfs_europe" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2. |
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cait |
hmm |
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wnickc |
ashimema++ |
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ashimema |
:) |
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cait |
wnickc: i think one of the biblibre sandboxes is set so it's stuck on the utf-8 bug - might explain some of the problems |
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ashimema |
shout if they stop working.. in my tests they were fine.. but there's nothing like the stress test of a conference to break stuff ;) |
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cait |
hm biblibre number 6 |
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cait |
so maybe avoid that one |
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cait |
frido asked which to fix, but i think you all were asleep and now it's late friday afternoon here :) |
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cait |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_GBSD_-_23rd_July |
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wnickc |
yeah, I tried to get back to him, but I only had incomplete info |
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wnickc |
off to find food, be back soon |
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wnickc |
thanks to everyone |
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cait |
hi CPBrannon |
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CPBrannon |
hi @cait. What's the @ for? |
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cait |
hm not used here i think |
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cait |
maybe your irc client? |
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jcamins |
CPBrannon: phenomenal cosmic power! |
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jcamins |
(cait is an op) |
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ashimema |
haha.. |
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CPBrannon |
dunno - I see six users at the top of the nick list with @ in front. And when you talk it is in front of your name. |
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CPBrannon |
op? |
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wahanui |
op is the Original Poster, the person who started the discussion or asked the question. |
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ashimema |
magic super cait. |
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cait |
ashimema: yeah ops i think :) |
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cait |
don't mess with me... i can kick people! |
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ashimema |
op = operator (i think) |
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CPBrannon |
okay - there is always something I don't know around here. |
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cait |
ok, first i'd have to figure out how to do that exactly |
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ashimema |
basically an irc admin/moderator type person |
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cait |
for me it's little yellow stars :) |
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cait |
so i was not sure what you meant, i am using pidgin |
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ashimema |
little yellow stars.. shiny. |
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CPBrannon |
she's not so flashy here |
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CPBrannon |
;) |
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cait |
on closer inspection, little sheriff stars |
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cait |
that looks spelt wrong |
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CPBrannon |
don't worry cait - we'll learn ya |
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mveron |
Hi #koha |
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CPBrannon |
heading out to breakfast. Later #koha |
| 15:03 |
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ashimema |
tcohen let me know when you throw patches at bug 12738 and i'll happily test them.. got the perfect setup for it now ;) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12738 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Search behaviour inconsistent with QueryParser on Perl 5.18 |
| 15:03 |
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ashimema |
mmm. breakfast.. that was far too long ago |
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tcohen |
i'm about to attach! |
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ashimema |
awesome |
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tcohen |
ashimema: done |
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ashimema |
:) |
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* tcohen |
feels this is a good way of finishing the week |
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ashimema |
:) |
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ashimema |
me too.. feels like we're getting some real deal breaker fixed recently |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
yeah, people have stopped being scared and start working on the search code again :) |
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ashimema |
:) |
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tcohen |
heh |
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tcohen |
yeah! |
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bgkriegel |
mveron, around? |
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mveron |
hi bkriegel |
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bgkriegel |
hi :) |
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bgkriegel |
Do you plan to upload a new patch to 12705? |
| 15:23 |
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ashimema |
tcohen.. any idea's who/whether I need to test a sub that just ends in a 'print $query->redirect' |
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ashimema |
I've not got so far as to testing cgi stuff yet : |
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bgkriegel |
i'm willing to test it |
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tcohen |
ashimema: it is an easy one :-) |
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ashimema |
:) |
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mveron |
bgkriegel: Maybe i find time over the weekend. |
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ashimema |
that's good news.. was about to dive in.. |
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ashimema |
I'll test your qp patch firth though ;) |
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tcohen |
;) |
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bgkriegel |
mveron: Ok :) |
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* cait |
waves to mveron :) |
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mveron |
bgkriegel: Thanks for testing! |
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mveron |
hi cait :-) |
| 15:28 |
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ashimema |
damn that's a tiny patch to fix the problem tcohen. |
| 15:28 |
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tcohen |
hell yeah |
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ashimema |
bet it took ages to work out though. |
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tcohen |
and it took me day and a half :-P |
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ashimema |
hmm. |
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ashimema |
tcohen.. |
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wahanui |
tcohen is obsessed with automated testing :) |
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tcohen |
? |
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tcohen |
problems? |
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ashimema |
if I only apply the test patch against master on an old deb system (pre 5.18).. should the test fail? |
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tcohen |
i don't think so |
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ashimema |
ok.. will try wrapping my head around that |
| 15:36 |
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tcohen |
because of the way queryparser.yaml is crafted and then parsed, it always returned 'keyword' as the default search class |
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ashimema |
i see.. |
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ashimema |
so.. when would your test fail then? |
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tcohen |
on a "truly" randomized perl hash context, QueryParser chooses the first it reads |
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tcohen |
when looping through what was read from the yaml file |
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tcohen |
the test would fail on Perl 5.18 |
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tcohen |
and the patch only makes a decision already made (fallback to 'keyword' search) explicit |
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ashimema |
hmm. I see.. i think I misundertsand your test.. will have another read.. |
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tcohen |
ah |
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ashimema |
I though by forcing a random seed per run then we we're able to in effect mock the 5.18 behaviour in prior perls. |
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tcohen |
if you run in on pre-5.18, each of the 4 run will return 'keyword', and thus not fail |
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ashimema |
I understand. |
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* tcohen |
doesn't know how pre-5.18 behaves related to the hash seed |
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ashimema |
yeah.. I think I follow now. |
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ashimema |
I may have to move my dev env to ubuntu to catch such tests in the future. |
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ashimema |
else I'll miss such failures during qa |
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* ashimema |
now runs tests as part of qa |
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* ashimema |
really doesnt like db dependant tests! |
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ashimema |
I wish I could set signed-off status using git-bz.. never seem to work for me now days. |
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jcamins |
ashimema: maybe your version of git-bz is out of date. |
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cait |
ashimema: works for me :) |
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cait |
or does passed qa work but signed off does not? |
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cait |
sometimes it explodes for me when i try to set a status that the bugzlla workflow settings don't allow |
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cait |
like when you have to set another status first |
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CPBrannon |
Preparing for Hackfest! :) |
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ashimema |
git-bz very recently pulled. |
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ashimema |
so it's not out of date (like 30 minutes ago pulled) |
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ashimema |
it's when I do a multi-patch attach. |
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jcamins |
ashimema: oh, I never attach more than one patch. |
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ashimema |
so say for instance 'git bz attach -e 12738 commithash..HEAD' |
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ashimema |
I save changing the status for that last patch.. and it always blows up if you set the status at the same time. |
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jcamins |
I just do every patch one at a time. |
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ashimema |
in that case.. I was attaching two patches. |
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ashimema |
I see.. |
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jcamins |
Lots of '^'s. |
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ashimema |
I 'think' it usually works for me if I'm only using one commit |
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ashimema |
lots of ^? |
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ashimema |
do you mean 'git bz attach -e 12345 ^^^HEAD' |
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jcamins |
Yeah. git-bz attach -e 12345 HEAD^^^^ |
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ashimema |
is that not pretty much the same as commithash..HEAD |
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jcamins |
No, that attaches only one patch. |
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ashimema |
or do you do HEAD^^^^ followed by HEAD^^^ and then HEAD^^ |
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jcamins |
Exactly. |
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ashimema |
oh.. |
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ashimema |
:(.. |
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jcamins |
Attaching ranges never really worked great IMO. |
| 16:19 |
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ashimema |
it's so much nicer doing it with one command |
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jcamins |
It would be nice. |
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ashimema |
I thought attaching ranges basically just stepped through anyway.. |
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ashimema |
I take it I'm wrong then.. |
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ashimema |
assume it does it all in once connection.. rather than opening and closing connections ? |
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jcamins |
That's what it should do, but it's less trouble to just use the carets than to read the git-bz code. |
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ashimema |
I'de really like to see us move to a git bz that used the proper api's |
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jcamins |
If there's a branch of git bz that uses different APIs, there is no reason you couldn't use it. |
| 16:21 |
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ashimema |
Well.. not git bz per say.. but there are other similar clients.. |
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jcamins |
The reason we have the repo on git.k-c.org is not because anyone in the community maintains it, but because then it's easy to find. |
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ashimema |
who braught git bz to our attention? |
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jcamins |
rangi, maybe? |
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ashimema |
wow.. it's a 2644 line single file.. |
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ashimema |
ouch. |
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pastebot |
"tcohen" at 172.16.248.212 pasted "jcamins: how would you name the these variables?" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/150 |
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jcamins |
tcohen: I'll think for a bit. |
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hbraum |
good morning :) we’re starting our hackfest in Wenatchee (most of us are newbies), and looking at bugzilla, how do we get the severity column to display in the search results of bugzilla? One person here has the column displaying on his search, but the rest of us aren’t seeing it in our bugzilla accounts. |
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hbraum |
someone in our group answered the question already: it looksl ike if you use the saved searches at the bottom of the screen (like needs signed off), severity displays. |
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pastebot |
"tcohen" at 172.16.248.212 pasted "jcamins: this is what i was thinking of" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/151 |
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jcamins |
tcohen: I'd prefer: qr/\@or \@or $keyword_search "smith" ($weight1 "smith" $weight2 "smith"|$weight2 "smith" $weight1 "smith){2}/ |
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jcamins |
And no groupings in the variables. |
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tcohen |
the problem is that they are swapped too |
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jcamins |
Yes, that's why I have a grouping. |
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tcohen |
jcamins: but I see $weight* have their contents swaped too |
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jcamins |
There are only two weights, but they can be in either order, right? |
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tcohen |
(\@attr 9=20 \@attr 2=102|\@attr 2=102 \@attr 9=20) \@attr 4=6 |
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tcohen |
it is needed |
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CPBrannon |
hbraum: when you gtet your box figured out, make a few more to make sure you have your method down. :) |
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hbraum |
CPBrannon we’ll see :) |
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tcohen |
bye #koha |
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CPBrannon |
hbraum: what was the code you wanted me to post? |
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hbraum |
CPBrannon the jquery for how you changed your availability column on staff client |
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CPBrannon |
hbraum: I'll let you know when it is posted |
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* cait |
waves |
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* pianohacker |
waves |
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wnickc |
is there a password available for the installer on the biblibre sandboxes? |
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jcamins |
sandboxes? |
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wahanui |
sandboxes are http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sandboxes |
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wnickc |
ashimema: sandbox 4 seems to be out of comission |
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CPBrannon |
hbraum: it's in there. Last one in the intranet jquery section http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ry#Hide_locations.2Fcopies_on_Staff_search_results |
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hbraum |
tyvm |
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cait |
:) |
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CPBrannon |
:) |
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tcohen |
hi |
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tcohen |
ashimema: thanks for signing |
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ashimema |
no worries tcohen |
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ashimema |
wnickc: thanks for the notice about sandbox4 |
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ashimema |
I'll take a quick look.. |
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wnickc |
:) |
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wnickc |
kohana installfest now has several peopel with working git installs and git bz |
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* mtompset |
cheers, because it sounds good. |
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wnickc |
hopefully sign offs to follow |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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wnickc |
1 bug down |
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tcohen |
ashimema: where is the suppress parameter defined for PQF? |
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* tcohen |
is reading the PQF grammar definition |
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ashimema |
erm.. i'm not actually sure |
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ashimema |
dcook got there in the end with that bug to be fair to him.. |
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tcohen |
:-D |
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ashimema |
I just kept getting advice from people until it worked |
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tcohen |
http://www.indexdata.com/yaz/doc/tools.html#PQF |
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tcohen |
ok, I trust you both so... |
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tcohen |
i guess is some zebra trick |
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ashimema |
http://www.indexdata.com/zebra[…]ymodel-zebra.html was the last zebra doc I got into.. to try and work out how relevance works. |
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ashimema |
zebra is plain freaky |
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tcohen |
heh |
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tcohen |
asado tonight, have to leave to get all the stuff |
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tcohen |
bye #koha, nice weekend for every1 |
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* ashimema |
has just realised that the out of the box db's for the sandboxes all default to prog for the opac theme.. |
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ashimema |
have a nice weekend tcohen |
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CPBrannon |
Yay! Tested my first patch from my VM! I'm like a giddy little school girl! |
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ashimema |
CPBrannon++ |
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ashimema |
wnickc: sandbox4 is back up.. |
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ashimema |
stupid typo in the apache virtual host conf |
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wnickc |
awesome, thank you! |
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ashimema |
hmm.. |
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ashimema |
well.. sandbox 0, 1, 2 and 3 are up.. I take it back that 4 is.. |
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ashimema |
got an error in updatedatabase.. bear with me. |
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ashimema |
wnickc: now snadbox4 is up.. ack.. two typos later! |
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wnickc |
ashimema++ |
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ashimema |
oh.. the stats are now starting to look interesting.. |
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ashimema |
more than just my name in the list :) |
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ashimema |
night all.. bed time for me |
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* ashimema |
ashimema_afk |
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wnickc |
hi all |
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wnickc |
does the package command koha-upgrade-schema run updatedatabase.pl? |
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pianohacker |
wnickc: yes |
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wnickc |
pianohacker: thanks |
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mtompset |
pianohacker: Greetings. Did MySQL historically not allow NULL as a Date? And if so, do you recall the version? |
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pianohacker |
Hmm, there have been historical problems with NULL/0000-00-00 but I'm not sure of the cause or which versions were affected |
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mtompset |
Because someone was asking for me to take out a '0000-00-00' comparison on bug 12167, and using just NULLs does seem to work for my version of MySQL currently. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12167 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , datetime type casting issue regarding bug 7567 |
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mtompset |
do you have any ancient koha database backups with opac_news? |
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mtompset |
could you check to see if the expirationdate is 0000-00-00? :) |
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pianohacker |
oh, lord. I don't, unfortunately |
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mtompset: and unfortunately I can't seem to find any helpful information on google |
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mtompset |
I had the same bad luck trying to answer the question using google too. |
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tcohen |
@wunder cordoba, argentina |
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huginn |
tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 11.8°C (8:55 PM ART on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
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tcohen |
@wunder cordoba, argentina |
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huginn |
tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 11.8°C (8:55 PM ART on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
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tcohen |
@wunder cordoba, argentina |
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huginn |
tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 11.8°C (8:55 PM ART on August 08, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
