IRC log for #koha, 2014-08-07

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00:01 papa g'day
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00:09 wizzyrea hi papa :)
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00:33 pianohacker triply nested closures hell yeah
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02:04 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12512 - PROG/CCSR deprecation: Remove OpacShowFiltersPulldownMobile system preference <[…]0d07b8ac453ade8f3>
02:14 pianohacker dear lord!
02:14 pianohacker glad that's gone
02:15 dcook I...
02:15 dcook OpacShowFiltersPulldownMobile...
02:16 dcook Certainly a mouthful
02:16 rangi its a ccsr only pref, its not gone yet
02:16 rangi its just in my module maintainer branch
02:16 rangi where im collecting all the prog/ccsr removal patches
02:17 eythian rangi: I have one somewhere to remove it from the packages and related scripts, just in case you hadn't seen it.
02:18 rangi sweet im picking out the ones that have passed qa
02:18 eythian ah k
02:18 rangi and putting them all on a branch and testing lots, so then tcohen can merge it
02:18 dcook Me wonders what "150 $a Hope $x radition effects" would mean...
02:19 rangi cos theres a lot, that need to all be tested together really
02:19 eythian I feel that mine is big enough I'd like a second opinion on it not breaking things.
02:19 eythian dcook: 150 isn't a thing
02:19 rangi its an authority
02:19 dcook ^
02:19 eythian oh
02:19 eythian duh
02:19 dcook It's part of MeSH
02:19 eythian of course it is
02:19 rangi 650 = 150
02:20 rangi thats how i remember it anyway
02:20 rangi close enough
02:20 rangi :)
02:20 dcook :)
02:23 pianohacker :)
02:23 dcook I would love to do more work with our medical libraries... must be a rather fascinating job
02:24 dcook Suppose anything medical would be stressful as well though..
02:24 * dcook didn't mean to divert conversation away from deprecating prog and CCSR
02:24 * eythian notes that we are still emailing plaintext passwords when an account is created.
02:25 dcook :(
02:28 rangi yeah, i always switch that syspref off
02:28 rangi we really should do something smarter
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02:32 dcook Wow, well done MarcEdit... I just loaded the entirety of MeSH (630,000+ records) into it. It was a bit slow but it didn't crash like the other editors did...
02:39 dcook @seen mveron
02:39 huginn dcook: mveron was last seen in #koha 2 days, 11 hours, 13 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <mveron> Produces html data. If patron does not have an email address or -n (no mail) flag is set, an HTML file is generated in the specified directory. This can be downloaded or futher processed by library staff. The file will be called notices-YYYY-MM-DD.html and placed in the directory specified.
02:39 dcook mveron++
02:39 eythian if you give an arrayref to a TT template, and it just displays it with [% variable %], what is it actually going to display, anyone know?
02:39 dcook bgkriegel++
02:39 dcook eythian: I think it'll print out the arrayref memory address
02:39 dcook That's probably not what it's called
02:39 dcook But I've seen that happen with hashes
02:39 eythian perl would, but I wouldn't expect TT to do that
02:39 dcook It'll be like HASH{blahblah}
02:40 dcook Oh, maybe I'm lying to you...
02:40 dcook I might be thinking of [% Dumper.variable %]
02:40 dcook I'm probably thinking of that actually
02:40 dcook My bad
02:40 dcook No idea then
02:40 dcook I've seen it before, but I think it was just when using the Data::Dumper TT plugin
02:41 eythian hmm
02:41 eythian that I wouldn't expect to do that either
02:41 eythian I'd expect that to give you a structure of data
02:41 dcook Hmm, good point
02:41 dcook So maybe I wasn't lying after all
02:41 dcook One way to find out I suppose
02:42 * dcook goes back to poking
02:42 eythian Well, I can see a place in Koha where this is happening, and the results aren't what I'd expect at all.
02:42 eythian So I'm trying to figure out if I'm reading it wrong, or if it's just something I don't expect that is actually happening.
02:42 dcook Oh?
02:42 dcook What are the results?
02:42 wahanui the results are *very* promising, so far.
02:43 eythian if you send a cart, it uses GetMarcNotes, puts it into a few things, and later on does
02:43 eythian Notes : [% BIBLIO_RESULT.notes %]
02:43 eythian it _seems_ that it's giving the last value.
02:44 eythian I would have expected the first one most likely
02:44 dcook Mmm, that also sounds familiar...
02:45 dcook I think I may have passed an arrayref and accessed it as a scalar the other day and got the last value...
02:46 eythian that'd be a perly thing to do with a list, but not an array.
02:46 * dcook needs to remember to send a patch for GetMarcNotes...
02:46 dcook Maybe TT treats all arrays as lists
02:47 dcook[…]d#List_References
02:47 eythian maybe, but that'd be a strange thing to do.
02:47 eythian dcook: annoyingly, that link covers everything except the specific case I have :)
02:47 dcook hehe
02:47 * dcook tips his imaginary hat
02:50 dcook Hmm, I didn't know you could pass objects to TT...
02:51 rangi we do it all the time
02:51 dcook Really?
02:51 dcook I don't think I've ever seen that
02:52 pianohacker dcook: It was HTML::Template::Pro that could only take scalars (and arrayrefs only for looping)
02:52 pianohacker that was _so_ damn annoying
02:52 dcook Yikes...that would've been
02:52 dcook I know I used it before TT, but I think I came just as TT was becoming a thing
02:52 pianohacker tt++
02:52 dcook tt++
02:52 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #85: UNSTABLE in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]oha_Master_D7/85/
02:52 jenkins_koha Owen Leonard: Bug 12512 - PROG/CCSR deprecation: Remove OpacShowFiltersPulldownMobile system preference
02:52 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12512 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed by Module Maintainer , PROG/CCSR deprecation: Remove OpacShowFiltersPulldownMobile system preference
02:53 pianohacker I can do things like [% USER_INFO.0.borrowernumber %] to get the borrowernumber of the logged in user without any special provision to unpack it for the template
02:53 dcook I've read a few posts about people who don't like using templates, and it just boggles my mind...
02:53 pianohacker You can just pass a hashref to a template and let it access the individual fields on its own
02:53 * eythian has come to the conclusion that there's no way this code could actually work.
02:53 eythian But it does.
02:53 * eythian wonders what he's missing.
02:53 dcook eythian: look at the TT source code?
02:54 pianohacker as opposed to the $template->param( %$borrower ); you used to see everywhere
02:54 dcook I've done that before with filters as it seemed utterly impossible
02:54 eythian I am looking at the template
02:54 eythian oh, you mean the compiled version
02:55 dcook Sure!
02:55 dcook Probably?
02:55 dcook No?
02:55 wahanui[…]33/collapsing.gif
02:56 eythian maybe I'm looking at the wrong template
02:56 dcook I was thinking more so in terms of why it shows the last value rather than the first...that you could look at the actual Template Toolkit modules to see how they handle arrayrefs
02:56 dcook As for the result you're getting... *shrug*
02:56 dcook I'm not a huge fan of the adds work :/
02:56 dcook I'm sure folks use it though
02:57 eythian no, I'm missing something here. There's hashes involved that are never referenced.
02:57 eythian I'm probably looking at the wrong thing
02:57 * dcook would love to know why he doesn't have a ton of zebraqueue entries after loading MeSH...
02:58 pianohacker all right, mountain time signing out
02:58 pianohacker bye all
02:59 dcook Ahh, I think I might know why Zebra didn't get involved...
03:00 dcook Because biblio_auth_number is BIGINT(20) in zebraqueue...
03:01 dcook And is passing in alphanumeric 001 data as if it were a Koha generated authid...
03:02 dcook Have a few spurrious entries with a number of "0" but not 630k of them..
03:03 dcook Only have entries every 5 seconds as well...curious
03:03 dcook Suppose it doesn't matter too much as a full re-index should be done anyway, but curious...
03:05 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping database version <[…]6643b4e12d6092708>
03:11 dcook mtj: Are you around?
03:11 dcook I'm starting to have doubts about -u
03:13 dcook I don't think that could ever work as expected, unless the 001 contained a Koha authid
03:13 dcook It would just create duplicate records
03:15 dcook So not cool...
03:32 dcook @later tell mtj: If I understand correctly, there is no way -u is actually updating your LA authority records correctly, if they have a LA control number in the 001...
03:32 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
03:50 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
03:50 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
03:50 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #86: FIXED in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]oha_Master_D7/86/
03:50 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bumping database version
03:52 dcook Oh right...fixing That's what I was doing...
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03:56 dcook Yep, no way -u -a would ever ever ever ever work when using a 001 that isn't a Koha authid...
03:56 * dcook is a broken record
03:56 * dcook can fix this...
04:05 eythian @later tell cait[…]lrn/11753201.html
04:05 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
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04:11 dcook This is rather frustrating...
04:13 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
04:13 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
04:13 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #94: FIXED in 59 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_U12/94/
04:13 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bumping database version
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04:34 mtj hey dcook, thanks for the heads-up ^^
04:35 dcook No worries :)
04:35 mtj i plan to be doing some AUTH stuff next week, so ill keep a look out then
04:36 dcook Sounds good
04:36 dcook Fortunately, I was able to delete the records I'd imported before they were used or noticed by anyone...
04:37 dcook I'm thinking the thing to do is probably add a "-keepid=035a" parameter when doing the imports...
04:37 dcook That way Koha will add the authid into the 001 so that the update should work
04:38 dcook I think I'm still going to fix up the script a bit though..
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04:38 dcook Using "FindDuplicateAuthority"
04:38 dcook If there is one duplicate found, it'll overwrite it. If there are more than one found, it will skip the record.
04:38 dcook Heya cait
04:38 dcook Or maybe it'll only overwrite if the "-u" flag is added...
04:39 dcook And if it's absent, it'll skip it
04:39 dcook Because otherwise we're making duplicates...
04:40 cait hi dcook :)
04:43 dcook Actually, "FindDuplicateAuthority" won't work either...
04:43 dcook As it relies on data that might've changed in the incoming record
04:43 dcook Guess it's time to play around with the -match flag... ugh
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05:01 dcook Holy...
05:02 dcook So I have "D000419Q000821" as my 001 in the database...
05:02 dcook But a re-index has changed the 001 to 2570 in Zebra...
05:02 dcook mtj: ^ also a good thing to know :p
05:03 dcook "fix_authority_id" in
05:17 dcook Boy is a bad tool...
05:18 dcook Does good too, but man...
05:23 dcook I really hope that people aren't using this
05:27 cait @later tell pianohacker we certainly have non-numeric values in our data sometimes mostly letters
05:27 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
05:27 dcook cait: In your indicators?
05:28 cait @later tell pianohacker ... and i was talking abount indicators
05:28 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
05:28 cait yepin those
05:28 dcook :S
05:28 dcook When?
05:28 cait certain custom fields
05:28 cait koha does it for indexing see alsos with the bibliographic record too
05:28 cait uses z
05:28 dcook Hmm, that does sound familiar...
05:28 dcook I thought that was a subfield though
05:29 dcook That sounds really familiar
05:29 dcook Something with authorities, yeah?
05:31 cait yeah
05:43 dcook Well, the spec says you can use letters :)
05:43 dcook hehe
05:43 dcook Yeah, I'm not re-writing
05:43 eythian you should.
05:43 dcook I should, but it's just not worth it
05:44 dcook Unless someone pays me to do it, it's just not going to get done :/
05:44 eythian I have a fiver in my pocket
05:44 dcook hehe
05:44 dcook I suppose I walked into that :p
05:45 dcook I think we have maybe two clients using MeSH. I suppose I could ask them to put the money together to fund a development...
05:45 dcook Better off writing a whole new script
05:58 mtj hey #koha, whats the url for the latest 3.14.x koha deb?
06:00 eythian mtj: in what sense?
06:00 eythian like, to add the repo?
06:01 mtj no, to download a .deb - then install deb from disk
06:02 mtj long story short, my box has restricted web access
06:02 eythian http://debian.koha-community.o[…]pool/main/k/koha/ <-- mtj
06:02 mtj awesome
06:03 mtj i had lost that info from my notes
06:05 mtj thanks again eythian
06:05 eythian np
06:14 dcook Hmm, maybe I was too hard on
06:15 dcook It's total lack of comments may have meant I missed something..
06:16 dcook Hmm, then again...
06:16 dcook more testing to do..
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06:19 dcook Hmm, well that was unexpected...
06:20 dcook Ahhh...
06:20 dcook Always pays to reindex your database...
06:20 dcook *facepalm*
06:21 dcook Discovered desired behaviour...found another problem...
06:22 dcook Hmm, ok, this time...I CAN fix this...
06:25 eythian later all
06:29 dcook laters eythian
06:29 dcook have a good night
06:30 dcook On an unrelated note, I love remixes...
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06:38 marcelr hi #koha
06:38 cbrannon hello
06:39 dcook yo marcelr
06:39 dcook and cbrannon
06:39 wahanui cbrannon is attempting to setup a test box for Koha.  I am in debian and use "git clone git:// kohaclone", but I get a connection refused error.  Any ideas what I am doing wrong?  FYI, I've never used debian before today.
06:39 marcelr hi cbrannon dcook
06:49 cbrannon Working on a koha debian install.  I don't know my way around debian much yet.  I'm supposed to create a file called /etc/apt/sources.list.d/indexdata.list. Any recommendations on how to create this file?  I don't see instructions on what to use.
06:54 dcook cbrannon: I used vim
06:54 dcook Although...where did you see that instruction?
06:54 * dcook doesn't recall ever seeing a mention of an "indexdata.list"
06:54 cbrannon dcook:[…]18cc84587;hb=HEAD
06:54 dcook mmm
06:54 dcook debian?
06:54 wahanui debian is, like, what most people use and there are good manuals and even packages for that
06:54 dcook packages?
06:54 wahanui i think packages is at
06:54 cbrannon bag pointed me to this.
06:54 dcook Really?
06:55 dcook I think this is probably better:
06:55 dcook Yeah, the file bag pointed you to hasn't been updated since 2012
06:55 dcook Whereas the wiki has been updated quite recently
06:57 cbrannon dcook: I'll take a look.  Thanks
06:57 dcook No worries :)
06:57 dcook Are you familiar with Apache?
06:57 cbrannon nope
06:57 dcook Well, once you've followed the instructions on the wiki, you can ask about Apache here ;)
06:58 dcook The wiki instructions will get Koha installed. You'll just need to configure the Apache webserver afterwards in order to access it
06:58 cbrannon This is my season for asking LOTS of questions.
06:58 dcook Questions are good :)
06:59 dcook I wasn't very familiar with Debian, Apache, or installing Koha until...about 1.5 years ago
06:59 dcook I asked a lot of questions, and now I think I'm reasonably good at it ;)
07:06 dcook Ahh...just realized if I fix'll break for cait...
07:06 dcook Ah, but she doesn't use it anyway...all good
07:07 dcook Oooh, and it wouldn't break anyway...
07:08 WNickC_ cbrannon:  are you trying to do a git install for testing patches?
07:09 dcook Mmm, that's a good question to ask
07:09 WNickC_ dcook: we were talking about it at NAKUG today
07:09 dcook Ahh, good catch
07:09 rangi WNickC_: either way, you should install with packages first
07:09 rangi then use the koha-gitify script
07:09 dcook Yeah, that covers 99% of cases
07:09 cbrannon WNickC_: yes
07:09 dcook Except if you're testing Zebra config changes, me thinks
07:10 * dcook can't recall for certain though
07:10 rangi nope
07:10 rangi
07:10 WNickC_ rangi: I thought khall mentioned that there were some issues with gitify today
07:10 WNickC_ and that straight git install could be better
07:10 rangi i use a gitified instance to dev on everyday
07:10 cbrannon My head is starting  to spin...
07:11 WNickC_ I can easily be wrong
07:11 rangi and havent run into any problemss
07:11 WNickC_ wouldn't be the frist time
07:11 rangi i think most of the bywater people are still fairly new to packages, so they may not know their way round yet
07:11 rangi but even if all you do is install koha-perl-deps
07:12 rangi you will get all the dependencies installed
07:12 cbrannon One thing at a time.  Just trying to get into the sudoers file at the moment.
07:13 dcook cbrannon: Fair enough :)
07:13 WNickC_ cbrannon: my bad, spun the conversation based on my tiny slice of knowledge
07:14 dcook There are lots of components that all fit together
07:14 dcook But after you've done it the first time, it gets way easier
07:14 cbrannon no problem...just gotta take it slow and figure out a single direction and go with it.
07:15 dcook Editing the sudoers file is a good start
07:15 dcook Once you've got that sorted, I'd probably follow the package install instructions
07:16 dcook Even if you want to do a Git install later, it'll be easier after the package installation does all the heavy lifting
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07:20 cbrannon dcook: what does it mean "(This section is specific to QEMU/KVM.)"
07:20 rangi what instructions are you using?
07:21 dcook cbrannon: where are you seeing that?
07:23 cbrannon dcook: under "Step: Static IP address for your new machine"
07:23 WNickC_[…]pment_Environment
07:28 dcook cbrannon, WNickC_: I can't say that I've ever looked at those instructions
07:28 dcook Not familiar with QEMU, but KVM is virtualization software
07:30 WNickC_ I only, unsuccessfully, tried them during my first attempts to get a dev setup but remembered them
07:31 dcook is really the way to go
07:32 WNickC_ cbrannon: I have to head off to sleep, but am happy to help tomorrow during the conference if we get a chance
07:32 WNickC_ night all
07:32 wahanui goodnight WNickC_. You'll be back.
07:32 cbrannon night
07:39 cbrannon "desktop$ ssh kohabox" throws and error "bash: desktop$: command not found"
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07:40 cait good morning #koha
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07:50 marcelr hi cait
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07:52 cait hi mar
07:52 cait hi marcelr
07:52 ashimema morning cait
07:52 cait always missing one letter for the autocomplete :)
07:52 cait ashimema!!
07:52 wahanui ashimema is on qa now .)
07:52 cait i was close to sending a search party!
07:53 marcelr hi ashimema
07:53 ashimema haha.. had a 'no computers' few days break with the family
07:54 ashimema have a feeling i've got allot of catching up to do now though.
07:55 cait possibly :)
08:17 cbrannon dcook: making progress.  Thanks for the help!  Going to bed now.
08:18 cbrannon Good night #koha
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09:00 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
09:00 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
09:00 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.14.x_D7 build #28: FIXED in 32 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]oha_3.14.x_D7/28/
09:00 jenkins_koha * Mark Tompsett: Bug 11587 - IsSuperLibrarian generates warnings (UT)
09:00 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11587 - Add UT for IsSuperLibrarian if flags == 0
09:00 jenkins_koha * Mark Tompsett: Bug 11587: get rid of warnings generated by IsSuperLibrarian with anonymous sessions
09:00 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11587 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , IsSuperLibrarian generates warnings
09:00 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 12048: add regression test
09:00 jenkins_koha * Frédéric Demians: Bug 12048: restore ability of superlibrarian to see other libraries' subscriptions
09:00 jenkins_koha * Frédéric Demians: Bug 12080: restore effect of superserials permission
09:00 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12048 minor, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Stable , Doesn't display other libraries subscriptions when superlibrarian user
09:00 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 12080: (follow-up) fix test failure and warnings in Bookseller.t
09:00 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12080 major, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Stable , Superserials permission appears to be broken
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09:21 indradg good afternoon #koha
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12:44 edveal morning druthb
12:45 oleonard Hi #koha
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12:47 bgkriegel hi oleonard
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12:51 * cait waves
12:52 bgkriegel hi cait :)
13:03 cait hi bgkriegel :)
13:03 bgkriegel quiet day
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13:13 cait yep
13:15 marcelr sssttt
13:16 * oleonard bangs some pots and pans
13:19 cait marcelr: thx for taking a look at the permanent location one
13:19 cait i was not sure about the perl code there
13:19 cait I think you might understand more than i do :)
13:19 marcelr do not underestimate your perl
13:20 marcelr will not finish that one today anymore however..
13:36 cait :)
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13:55 tcohen hi
13:55 tcohen hi bgkriegel
14:01 bgkriegel hi tcohen :)
14:41 pastebot "oleonard" at pasted "Trying again to install Koha package on Ubuntu 14, getting these errors" (52 lines) at
14:42 oleonard cait suggested yesterday it might be Bug 11404?
14:42 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11404 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , add out-of-the-box support for Apache 2.4
14:42 oleonard Anyone have any suggestions for how to proceed?
14:44 cait oleonard: i was looking at comment that had some suggestions
14:46 cait hm was it that one
14:48 cait tcohen?
14:48 wahanui i think tcohen is obsessed with packages' scripts
14:48 cait tcohen is also obsessed with automated testing :)
14:48 wahanui okay, cait.
14:49 tcohen oleonard: you need to first install mod-itk
14:51 oleonard apache2-mpm-itk?
14:52 tcohen what were the steps you followed?
14:52 oleonard[…]ubuntu_-_packages
14:53 tcohen there's a bug on debian's apache2-mpm-itk => and ubuntu's
14:53 tcohen see Appendix B: Troubleshooting
14:53 tcohen apache2-mpm-itk wouldn't get installed, because it needs mpm-event disabled on the postinstall step
14:54 tcohen it is a debian/ubuntu problem we can't do anything about
14:54 tcohen *but* the debian bug is closed because they fixed it on testing
14:54 oleonard Thanks tcohen that seems to have worked
14:54 * tcohen heads to launchpad to ask for backporting the package patch
14:56 cait :)
14:56 cait tcohen++
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15:07 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4045: DBRev <[…]9718ba94c566c8e85> / Bug 4045 - No check for maximum number of allowed holds. <[…]eac107de9033c257b> / Bug 12699 - Capitalization: All Libraries in pull down on news tool page <[…]web/?p=koha.git;a
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15:41 pastebot "oleonard" at pasted "Still getting errors when I run template tests. Why?" (22 lines) at
15:51 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #87: UNSTABLE in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]oha_Master_D7/87/
15:51 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 12686: Make more selected option XHTML compliant
15:51 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 12635 - Course reserves item list should use "Checked out" instead of "On Loan"
15:51 jenkins_koha * Marc Veron: Bug 12699 - Capitalization: All Libraries in pull down on news tool page
15:51 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 4045 - No check for maximum number of allowed holds.
15:51 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 4045: DBRev
15:51 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12686 minor, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Make more selected option XHTML complian
15:51 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12635 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Course reserves item list should use "Checked out" instead of "On Loan"
15:51 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12699 trivial, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , Capitalization: All Libraries in pull down on news tool page
15:52 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4045 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , No check for maximum number of allowed holds from OPAC.
15:54 oleonard The test fail for me whether the Perl version is 5.18.2 or 5.14.2, contrary to what others found
15:54 oleonard Am I running the test incorrectly?
15:55 cait ashimema++
15:56 cait oleonard: sorry, not much help htere i think :(
15:58 oleonard I was hoping to update the tests for the prog/CCSR removal but if I can't get them to run correctly...
15:59 cait maybe a missing dependency?
16:00 cait oleonard: have you checked the pathes point to the right thing?
16:00 cait i have mulitple installations on the same machine and sometimes my env variables cause some trouble
16:00 cait hm the pathes look not right
16:00 cait /home/oleonard/kohaclone/xt/author/koh​a-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/en/includes
16:00 cait like 2 in one
16:01 oleonard Oh you're right I can't run it from the test directory
16:01 cait ah
16:01 cait does it work from kohaaclone?
16:02 oleonard Now I'm getting "unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/C4/ line 373."
16:02 cait hm
16:02 cait that looks like the environment variable not being set
16:03 cait maybe something not set up correctly there?
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16:16 oleonard Can't run tests in a gitified package install?
16:18 bgkriegel oleonard: which test? xt/tt_valid.t?
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17:08 oleonard if patron attributes should be visible in the OPAC should they not also be editable in the OPAC?
17:08 cait oleonard: hm possible
17:08 wahanui well, possible is everything, but I think it's probably easy to miss something here
17:09 cait but showing them would be good for a start, and soe you might not want them to edit i guess
17:11 tcohen pattron_attributes shouldn't be editable for us
17:11 tcohen we use them to flag the users
17:15 cait yeha we have some field stoo
17:15 cait that should not be edited
17:15 cait i htink you could probably take them out of the view
17:15 cait with borrowerunwantedfields or what the one for opac is called
17:17 oleonard There's already a "display in OPAC" option for extended patron attributes
17:19 tcohen oleonard, possible, but it should be possible to set and editable_in_opac flag for each of those
17:26 wnickc is it possible to accept only part of a patrons edits to their account?
17:27 jcamins tcohen++
17:30 jcamins tcohen++ # again
17:33 cait wnickc: hm not sure, i feel it's not, but better to try
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17:53 wnickc_ cait: I didn't see the option on a first check, just didn't know if I missed it
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18:14 indradg hi, I've just updated the wiki page
18:14 indradg this being my first Koha wiki edit, can someone take a look? just to make sure I didn't botch up something... inadvertantly?
18:14 indradg wizzyrea: ^^^
18:15 indradg gmcharlt: ^^^
18:16 gmcharlt indradg: looks fine
18:18 * cait waves
18:18 * indradg waves back
18:20 indradg gmcharlt: thanks :) now how do I submit a documentation patch for the manual<koha_version>/en/kohacms.html
18:20 * indradg should RTFM first, but just being lazy :P
18:21 cait i think you can send a patch to the docs list
18:21 cait documentation mailing list
18:21 cait nengard: around? :)
18:22 nengard sort of
18:22 nengard at the conference
18:22 nengard what's up
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18:30 indradg cait: thanks! :)
18:31 cait indradg wants to send a manual patch :)
18:31 cait hm
18:31 cait a patch to the manual
18:31 indradg nengard: cluebie query ^^^ :P
18:31 nengard cait is right - you send the patch to the documentation list and you tell me what version it's for.
18:32 indradg nengard: thanks!
18:32 nengard and yes that info is in the manual: http://manual.koha-community.o[…]contributing.html
18:33 cait ah clever :)
18:48 nengard I only added that recently :)
18:48 nengard based on a suggestion from a new partner
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18:59 cait indradg++
19:00 indradg nengard: +1
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19:03 ashimema teamwork++
19:03 cait community++
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19:34 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8148: add squeeze's Test::MockObject dependency <[…]66f05c34247dbe2ef> / Bug 8148: (regression tests) C4::Auth_with_ldap needs unit tests <[…]8d91b69822ccafdf6> / Bug 8148 - LDAP auth_by_bind doesn't fallback to local auth <
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20:06 tcohen bye #koha, have a nice day
20:18 rangi morning
20:21 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
20:21 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
20:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #88: FIXED in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]oha_Master_D7/88/
20:21 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11673: columns.def has swapped last and first name of alt contact
20:21 jenkins_koha * simith: Bug 12523 - Add patron email in Holds awaiting pickup circulation rapport
20:21 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11673 trivial, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , columns.def has swapped last and first name of alt contact
20:21 jenkins_koha * Frédérick Capovilla: Bug 8148: Prevent local authentification fallback if an invalid LDAP password was entered.
20:21 jenkins_koha * Frédérick Capovilla: Bug 8148: Only update the password if the LDAP password field was mapped
20:21 jenkins_koha * Dobrica Pavlinusic: Bug 8148 - LDAP auth_by_bind doesn't fallback to local auth
20:21 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 8148: (regression tests) C4::Auth_with_ldap needs unit tests
20:21 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 8148: add squeeze's Test::MockObject dependency
20:21 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12523 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, simith.doliveira, Pushed to Master , Add patron email in Holds awaiting pickup circulation report
20:21 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8148 critical, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Pushed to Master , ldap authentication should FAIL if ldap contains NEW password, and user types the PREVIOUS password
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20:25 * cait waves
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20:37 indradg nengard: so documentation patches do not follow the[…]t-patch_Workflow?
20:38 indradg have i got that right?
20:42 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
20:42 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
20:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #96: FIXED in 59 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_U12/96/
20:42 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11673: columns.def has swapped last and first name of alt contact
20:42 jenkins_koha * simith: Bug 12523 - Add patron email in Holds awaiting pickup circulation rapport
20:42 jenkins_koha * Frédérick Capovilla: Bug 8148: Prevent local authentification fallback if an invalid LDAP password was entered.
20:42 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11673 trivial, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , columns.def has swapped last and first name of alt contact
20:42 jenkins_koha * Frédérick Capovilla: Bug 8148: Only update the password if the LDAP password field was mapped
20:42 jenkins_koha * Dobrica Pavlinusic: Bug 8148 - LDAP auth_by_bind doesn't fallback to local auth
20:42 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 8148: (regression tests) C4::Auth_with_ldap needs unit tests
20:42 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 8148: add squeeze's Test::MockObject dependency
20:42 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12523 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, simith.doliveira, Pushed to Master , Add patron email in Holds awaiting pickup circulation report
20:42 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8148 critical, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Pushed to Master , ldap authentication should FAIL if ldap contains NEW password, and user types the PREVIOUS password
20:44 bgkriegel indradg: yes, prepare your patch and send it to documentation list, then Nicole can apply it
20:44 indradg bgkriegel: thanks :)
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22:49 bag @later tell mario FART FART FART
22:49 huginn bag: The operation succeeded.
22:49 eythian huginn: is that really a success though?
22:49 huginn eythian: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
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23:36 vinz3g Hello good day
23:37 vinz3g need help confgured the Z39.50 server, and read in several places and the documentation is very confusing on editing koha-con.xml, thanks in advance
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23:44 dcook wth...
23:44 dcook "----" is a thing in checkout notices?
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23:51 tcohen hi
23:51 eythian ho
23:51 dcook off to work we go?
23:53 eythian I'm already there, but sure :)
23:55 dcook Yeah, me too, but I didn't want to change the line :p
23:57 BobB neither of you are Snow White, for sure
23:57 BobB better add a smiley to that:  :)
23:58 dcook lol
23:58 dcook I'm probably Grumpy
23:58 BobB irma reckons I am Sleepy
23:59 rangi heya BobB
23:59 dcook I actually can't remember too many of the dwarves names now..
23:59 rangi looks like we land in cordoba at the exact same time
23:59 irma

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