Time  Nick         Message
23:59 irma         http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Dwarfs
23:59 rangi        looks like we land in cordoba at the exact same time
23:59 dcook        I actually can't remember too many of the dwarves names now..
23:59 rangi        heya BobB
23:58 BobB         irma reckons I am Sleepy
23:58 dcook        I'm probably Grumpy
23:58 dcook        lol
23:57 BobB         better add a smiley to that:  :)
23:57 BobB         neither of you are Snow White, for sure
23:55 dcook        Yeah, me too, but I didn't want to change the line :p
23:53 eythian      I'm already there, but sure :)
23:51 dcook        off to work we go?
23:51 eythian      ho
23:51 tcohen       hi
23:44 dcook        "----" is a thing in checkout notices?
23:44 dcook        wth...
23:37 vinz3g       need help confgured the Z39.50 server, and read in several places and the documentation is very confusing on editing koha-con.xml, thanks in advance
23:36 vinz3g       Hello good day
22:49 huginn       eythian: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
22:49 eythian      huginn: is that really a success though?
22:49 huginn       bag: The operation succeeded.
22:49 bag          @later tell mario FART FART FART
20:44 indradg      bgkriegel: thanks :)
20:44 bgkriegel    indradg: yes, prepare your patch and send it to documentation list, then Nicole can apply it
20:42 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8148 critical, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Pushed to Master , ldap authentication should FAIL if ldap contains NEW password, and user types the PREVIOUS password
20:42 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12523 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, simith.doliveira, Pushed to Master , Add patron email in Holds awaiting pickup circulation report
20:42 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 8148: add squeeze's Test::MockObject dependency
20:42 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 8148: (regression tests) C4::Auth_with_ldap needs unit tests
20:42 jenkins_koha * Dobrica Pavlinusic: Bug 8148 - LDAP auth_by_bind doesn't fallback to local auth
20:42 jenkins_koha * Frédérick Capovilla: Bug 8148: Only update the password if the LDAP password field was mapped
20:42 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11673 trivial, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , columns.def has swapped last and first name of alt contact
20:42 jenkins_koha * Frédérick Capovilla: Bug 8148: Prevent local authentification fallback if an invalid LDAP password was entered.
20:42 jenkins_koha * simith: Bug 12523 - Add patron email in Holds awaiting pickup circulation rapport
20:42 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11673: columns.def has swapped last and first name of alt contact
20:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #96: FIXED in 59 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12/96/
20:42 wahanui      o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
20:42 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
20:38 indradg      have i got that right?
20:37 indradg      nengard: so documentation patches do not follow the http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug-enhancement-patch_Workflow?
20:25 * cait       waves
20:21 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8148 critical, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Pushed to Master , ldap authentication should FAIL if ldap contains NEW password, and user types the PREVIOUS password
20:21 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12523 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, simith.doliveira, Pushed to Master , Add patron email in Holds awaiting pickup circulation report
20:21 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 8148: add squeeze's Test::MockObject dependency
20:21 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 8148: (regression tests) C4::Auth_with_ldap needs unit tests
20:21 jenkins_koha * Dobrica Pavlinusic: Bug 8148 - LDAP auth_by_bind doesn't fallback to local auth
20:21 jenkins_koha * Frédérick Capovilla: Bug 8148: Only update the password if the LDAP password field was mapped
20:21 jenkins_koha * Frédérick Capovilla: Bug 8148: Prevent local authentification fallback if an invalid LDAP password was entered.
20:21 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11673 trivial, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , columns.def has swapped last and first name of alt contact
20:21 jenkins_koha * simith: Bug 12523 - Add patron email in Holds awaiting pickup circulation rapport
20:21 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11673: columns.def has swapped last and first name of alt contact
20:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #88: FIXED in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/88/
20:21 wahanui      o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
20:21 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
20:18 rangi        morning
20:06 tcohen       bye #koha, have a nice day
19:34 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8148: add squeeze's Test::MockObject dependency <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=69e3d44dc223b20668a795866f05c34247dbe2ef> / Bug 8148: (regression tests) C4::Auth_with_ldap needs unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0a56b068f80e0c893f3e5d98d91b69822ccafdf6> / Bug 8148 - LDAP auth_by_bind doesn't fallback to local auth <http://git.koha-community.org/g
19:03 cait         community++
19:03 ashimema     teamwork++
19:00 indradg      nengard: +1
18:59 cait         indradg++
18:48 nengard      based on a suggestion from a new partner
18:48 nengard      I only added that recently :)
18:33 cait         ah clever :)
18:32 nengard      and yes that info is in the manual: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.16/en/contributing.html
18:32 indradg      nengard: thanks!
18:31 nengard      cait is right - you send the patch to the documentation list and you tell me what version it's for.
18:31 indradg      nengard: cluebie query ^^^ :P
18:31 cait         a patch to the manual
18:31 cait         hm
18:31 cait         indradg wants to send a manual patch :)
18:30 indradg      cait: thanks! :)
18:22 nengard      what's up
18:22 nengard      at the conference
18:22 nengard      sort of
18:21 cait         nengard: around? :)
18:21 cait         documentation mailing list
18:21 cait         i think you can send a patch to the docs list
18:20 * indradg    should RTFM first, but just being lazy :P
18:20 indradg      gmcharlt: thanks :) now how do I submit a documentation patch for the manual http://manual.koha-community.org/<koha_version>/en/kohacms.html
18:18 * indradg    waves back
18:18 * cait       waves
18:16 gmcharlt     indradg: looks fine
18:15 indradg      gmcharlt: ^^^
18:14 indradg      wizzyrea: ^^^
18:14 indradg      this being my first Koha wiki edit, can someone take a look? just to make sure I didn't botch up something... inadvertantly?
18:14 indradg      hi, I've just updated the wiki page http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_as_a_CMS
17:53 wnickc_      cait: I didn't see the option on a first check, just didn't know if I missed it
17:33 cait         wnickc: hm not sure, i feel it's not, but better to try
17:30 jcamins      tcohen++ # again
17:27 jcamins      tcohen++
17:26 wnickc       is it possible to accept only part of a patrons edits to their account?
17:19 tcohen       oleonard, possible, but it should be possible to set and editable_in_opac flag for each of those
17:17 oleonard     There's already a "display in OPAC" option for extended patron attributes
17:15 cait         with borrowerunwantedfields or what the one for opac is called
17:15 cait         i htink you could probably take them out of the view
17:15 cait         that should not be edited
17:15 cait         yeha we have some field stoo
17:11 tcohen       we use them to flag the users
17:11 tcohen       pattron_attributes shouldn't be editable for us
17:09 cait         but showing them would be good for a start, and soe you might not want them to edit i guess
17:08 wahanui      well, possible is everything, but I think it's probably easy to miss something here
17:08 cait         oleonard: hm possible
17:08 oleonard     if patron attributes should be visible in the OPAC should they not also be editable in the OPAC?
16:18 bgkriegel    oleonard: which test? xt/tt_valid.t?
16:16 oleonard     Can't run tests in a gitified package install?
16:03 cait         maybe something not set up correctly there?
16:02 cait         that looks like the environment variable not being set
16:02 cait         hm
16:02 oleonard     Now I'm getting "unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/C4/Context.pm line 373."
16:01 cait         does it work from kohaaclone?
16:01 cait         ah
16:01 oleonard     Oh you're right I can't run it from the test directory
16:00 cait         like 2 in one
16:00 cait         /home/oleonard/kohaclone/xt/author/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/en/includes
16:00 cait         hm the pathes look not right
16:00 cait         i have mulitple installations on the same machine and sometimes my env variables cause some trouble
16:00 cait         oleonard: have you checked the pathes point to the right thing?
15:59 cait         maybe a missing dependency?
15:58 oleonard     I was hoping to update the tests for the prog/CCSR removal but if I can't get them to run correctly...
15:56 cait         oleonard: sorry, not much help htere i think :(
15:55 cait         ashimema++
15:54 oleonard     Am I running the test incorrectly?
15:54 oleonard     The test fail for me whether the Perl version is 5.18.2 or 5.14.2, contrary to what others found
15:52 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4045 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , No check for maximum number of allowed holds from OPAC.
15:51 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12699 trivial, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , Capitalization: All Libraries in pull down on news tool page
15:51 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12635 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Course reserves item list should use "Checked out" instead of "On Loan"
15:51 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12686 minor, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Make more selected option XHTML complian
15:51 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 4045: DBRev 3.17.00.013
15:51 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 4045 - No check for maximum number of allowed holds.
15:51 jenkins_koha * Marc Veron: Bug 12699 - Capitalization: All Libraries in pull down on news tool page
15:51 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 12635 - Course reserves item list should use "Checked out" instead of "On Loan"
15:51 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 12686: Make more selected option XHTML compliant
15:51 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #87: UNSTABLE in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/87/
15:41 pastebot     "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Still getting errors when I run template tests. Why?" (22 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/147
15:07 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4045: DBRev 3.17.00.013 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=def7816de4d1aebffa73af69718ba94c566c8e85> / Bug 4045 - No check for maximum number of allowed holds. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bbfc908fd83eb5ab6180b19eac107de9033c257b> / Bug 12699 - Capitalization: All Libraries in pull down on news tool page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a
14:56 cait         tcohen++
14:56 cait         :)
14:54 * tcohen     heads to launchpad to ask for backporting the package patch
14:54 oleonard     Thanks tcohen that seems to have worked
14:54 tcohen       *but* the debian bug is closed because they fixed it on testing
14:54 tcohen       it is a debian/ubuntu problem we can't do anything about
14:53 tcohen       apache2-mpm-itk wouldn't get installed, because it needs mpm-event disabled on the postinstall step
14:53 tcohen       see Appendix B: Troubleshooting
14:53 tcohen       there's a bug on debian's apache2-mpm-itk => and ubuntu's
14:52 oleonard     http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages
14:52 tcohen       what were the steps you followed?
14:51 oleonard     apache2-mpm-itk?
14:49 tcohen       oleonard: you need to first install mod-itk
14:48 wahanui      okay, cait.
14:48 cait         tcohen is also obsessed with automated testing :)
14:48 wahanui      i think tcohen is obsessed with packages' scripts
14:48 cait         tcohen?
14:46 cait         hm was it that one
14:44 cait         oleonard: i was looking at comment that had some suggestions
14:42 oleonard     Anyone have any suggestions for how to proceed?
14:42 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11404 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , add out-of-the-box support for Apache 2.4
14:42 oleonard     cait suggested yesterday it might be Bug 11404?
14:41 pastebot     "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Trying again to install Koha package on Ubuntu 14, getting these errors" (52 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/146
14:01 bgkriegel    hi tcohen :)
13:55 tcohen       hi bgkriegel
13:55 tcohen       hi
13:36 cait         :)
13:20 marcelr      will not finish that one today anymore however..
13:19 marcelr      do not underestimate your perl
13:19 cait         I think you might understand more than i do :)
13:19 cait         i was not sure about the perl code there
13:19 cait         marcelr: thx for taking a look at the permanent location one
13:16 * oleonard   bangs some pots and pans
13:15 marcelr      sssttt
13:13 cait         yep
13:03 bgkriegel    quiet day
13:03 cait         hi bgkriegel :)
12:52 bgkriegel    hi cait :)
12:51 * cait       waves
12:47 bgkriegel    hi oleonard
12:45 oleonard     Hi #koha
12:44 edveal       morning druthb
09:21 indradg      good afternoon #koha
09:00 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12080 major, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Stable , Superserials permission appears to be broken
09:00 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 12080: (follow-up) fix test failure and warnings in Bookseller.t
09:00 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12048 minor, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Stable , Doesn't display other libraries subscriptions when superlibrarian user
09:00 jenkins_koha * Frédéric Demians: Bug 12080: restore effect of superserials permission
09:00 jenkins_koha * Frédéric Demians: Bug 12048: restore ability of superlibrarian to see other libraries' subscriptions
09:00 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 12048: add regression test
09:00 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11587 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , IsSuperLibrarian generates warnings
09:00 jenkins_koha * Mark Tompsett: Bug 11587: get rid of warnings generated by IsSuperLibrarian with anonymous sessions
09:00 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11587 - Add UT for IsSuperLibrarian if flags == 0
09:00 jenkins_koha * Mark Tompsett: Bug 11587 - IsSuperLibrarian generates warnings (UT)
09:00 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.14.x_D7 build #28: FIXED in 32 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.14.x_D7/28/
09:00 wahanui      o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
09:00 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
08:18 cbrannon     Good night #koha
08:17 cbrannon     dcook: making progress.  Thanks for the help!  Going to bed now.
07:55 cait         possibly :)
07:54 ashimema     have a feeling i've got allot of catching up to do now though.
07:53 ashimema     haha.. had a 'no computers' few days break with the family
07:53 marcelr      hi ashimema
07:52 cait         i was close to sending a search party!
07:52 wahanui      ashimema is on qa now .)
07:52 cait         ashimema!!
07:52 cait         always missing one letter for the autocomplete :)
07:52 ashimema     morning cait
07:52 cait         hi marcelr
07:52 cait         hi mar
07:50 marcelr      hi cait
07:40 cait         good morning #koha
07:39 cbrannon     "desktop$ ssh kohabox" throws and error "bash: desktop$: command not found"
07:32 cbrannon     night
07:32 wahanui      goodnight WNickC_. You'll be back.
07:32 WNickC_      night all
07:32 WNickC_      cbrannon: I have to head off to sleep, but am happy to help tomorrow during the conference if we get a chance
07:31 dcook        http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian/ is really the way to go
07:30 WNickC_      I only, unsuccessfully, tried them during my first attempts to get a dev setup but remembered them
07:28 dcook        Not familiar with QEMU, but KVM is virtualization software
07:28 dcook        cbrannon, WNickC_: I can't say that I've ever looked at those instructions
07:23 WNickC_      http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Setting_Up_Koha_in_Virtual_Environment_%2B_Using_That_as_a_Development_Environment
07:23 cbrannon     dcook: under "Step: Static IP address for your new machine"
07:21 dcook        cbrannon: where are you seeing that?
07:20 rangi        what instructions are you using?
07:20 cbrannon     dcook: what does it mean "(This section is specific to QEMU/KVM.)"
07:16 dcook        Even if you want to do a Git install later, it'll be easier after the package installation does all the heavy lifting
07:15 dcook        Once you've got that sorted, I'd probably follow the package install instructions
07:15 dcook        Editing the sudoers file is a good start
07:14 cbrannon     no problem...just gotta take it slow and figure out a single direction and go with it.
07:14 dcook        But after you've done it the first time, it gets way easier
07:14 dcook        There are lots of components that all fit together
07:13 WNickC_      cbrannon: my bad, spun the conversation based on my tiny slice of knowledge
07:13 dcook        cbrannon: Fair enough :)
07:12 cbrannon     One thing at a time.  Just trying to get into the sudoers file at the moment.
07:12 rangi        you will get all the dependencies installed
07:11 rangi        but even if all you do is install koha-perl-deps
07:11 rangi        i think most of the bywater people are still fairly new to packages, so they may not know their way round yet
07:11 WNickC_      wouldn't be the frist time
07:11 rangi        and havent run into any problemss
07:11 WNickC_      I can easily be wrong
07:10 cbrannon     My head is starting  to spin...
07:10 rangi        i use a gitified instance to dev on everyday
07:10 WNickC_      and that straight git install could be better
07:10 WNickC_      rangi: I thought khall mentioned that there were some issues with gitify today
07:10 rangi        https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify
07:10 rangi        nope
07:10 * dcook      can't recall for certain though
07:09 dcook        Except if you're testing Zebra config changes, me thinks
07:09 cbrannon     WNickC_: yes
07:09 dcook        Yeah, that covers 99% of cases
07:09 rangi        then use the koha-gitify script
07:09 rangi        WNickC_: either way, you should install with packages first
07:09 dcook        Ahh, good catch
07:09 WNickC_      dcook: we were talking about it at NAKUG today
07:09 dcook        Mmm, that's a good question to ask
07:08 WNickC_      cbrannon:  are you trying to do a git install for testing patches?
07:07 dcook        Oooh, and it wouldn't break anyway...
07:06 dcook        Ah, but she doesn't use it anyway...all good
07:06 dcook        Ahh...just realized if I fix bulkmarcimport.pl...it'll break for cait...
06:59 dcook        I asked a lot of questions, and now I think I'm reasonably good at it ;)
06:59 dcook        I wasn't very familiar with Debian, Apache, or installing Koha until...about 1.5 years ago
06:58 dcook        Questions are good :)
06:58 cbrannon     This is my season for asking LOTS of questions.
06:58 dcook        The wiki instructions will get Koha installed. You'll just need to configure the Apache webserver afterwards in order to access it
06:57 dcook        Well, once you've followed the instructions on the wiki, you can ask about Apache here ;)
06:57 cbrannon     nope
06:57 dcook        Are you familiar with Apache?
06:57 dcook        No worries :)
06:57 cbrannon     dcook: I'll take a look.  Thanks
06:55 dcook        Whereas the wiki has been updated quite recently
06:55 dcook        Yeah, the file bag pointed you to hasn't been updated since 2012
06:55 dcook        I think this is probably better: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
06:54 dcook        Really?
06:54 cbrannon     bag pointed me to this.
06:54 wahanui      i think packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
06:54 dcook        packages?
06:54 wahanui      debian is, like, what most people use and there are good manuals and even packages for that
06:54 dcook        debian?
06:54 dcook        mmm
06:54 cbrannon     dcook: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL.debian;h=4547974952d8730cefc04b570450dc318cc84587;hb=HEAD
06:54 * dcook      doesn't recall ever seeing a mention of an "indexdata.list"
06:54 dcook        Although...where did you see that instruction?
06:54 dcook        cbrannon: I used vim
06:49 cbrannon     Working on a koha debian install.  I don't know my way around debian much yet.  I'm supposed to create a file called /etc/apt/sources.list.d/indexdata.list. Any recommendations on how to create this file?  I don't see instructions on what to use.
06:39 marcelr      hi cbrannon dcook
06:39 wahanui      cbrannon is attempting to setup a test box for Koha.  I am in debian and use "git clone git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git kohaclone", but I get a connection refused error.  Any ideas what I am doing wrong?  FYI, I've never used debian before today.
06:39 dcook        and cbrannon
06:39 dcook        yo marcelr
06:38 cbrannon     hello
06:38 marcelr      hi #koha
06:30 dcook        On an unrelated note, I love remixes...
06:29 dcook        have a good night
06:29 dcook        laters eythian
06:25 eythian      later all
06:22 dcook        Hmm, ok, this time...I CAN fix this...
06:21 dcook        Discovered desired behaviour...found another problem...
06:20 dcook        *facepalm*
06:20 dcook        Always pays to reindex your database...
06:20 dcook        Ahhh...
06:19 dcook        Hmm, well that was unexpected...
06:16 dcook        more testing to do..
06:16 dcook        Hmm, then again...
06:15 dcook        It's total lack of comments may have meant I missed something..
06:14 dcook        Hmm, maybe I was too hard on bulkmarcimport.pl...
06:05 eythian      np
06:05 mtj          thanks again eythian
06:03 mtj          i had lost that info from my notes
06:02 mtj          awesome
06:02 eythian      http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/pool/main/k/koha/ <-- mtj
06:02 mtj          long story short, my box has restricted web access
06:01 mtj          no, to download a .deb - then install deb from disk
06:00 eythian      like, to add the repo?
06:00 eythian      mtj: in what sense?
05:58 mtj          hey #koha, whats the kc.org url for the latest 3.14.x koha deb?
05:45 dcook        Better off writing a whole new script
05:45 dcook        I think we have maybe two clients using MeSH. I suppose I could ask them to put the money together to fund a development...
05:44 dcook        I suppose I walked into that :p
05:44 dcook        hehe
05:44 eythian      I have a fiver in my pocket
05:44 dcook        Unless someone pays me to do it, it's just not going to get done :/
05:43 dcook        I should, but it's just not worth it
05:43 eythian      you should.
05:43 dcook        Yeah, I'm not re-writing bulkmarcimport.pl...
05:43 dcook        hehe
05:43 dcook        Well, the spec says you can use letters :)
05:31 cait         yeah
05:29 dcook        Something with authorities, yeah?
05:29 dcook        That sounds really familiar
05:28 dcook        I thought that was a subfield though
05:28 dcook        Hmm, that does sound familiar...
05:28 cait         uses z
05:28 cait         koha does it for indexing see alsos with the bibliographic record too
05:28 cait         certain custom fields
05:28 dcook        When?
05:28 dcook        :S
05:28 cait         yepin those
05:28 huginn       cait: The operation succeeded.
05:28 cait         @later tell pianohacker ... and i was talking abount indicators
05:27 dcook        cait: In your indicators?
05:27 huginn       cait: The operation succeeded.
05:27 cait         @later tell pianohacker we certainly have non-numeric values in our data sometimes mostly letters
05:23 dcook        I really hope that people aren't using this
05:18 dcook        Does good too, but man...
05:17 dcook        Boy is bulkmarcimport.pl a bad tool...
05:03 dcook        "fix_authority_id" in rebuild_zebra.pl
05:02 dcook        mtj: ^ also a good thing to know :p
05:02 dcook        But a re-index has changed the 001 to 2570 in Zebra...
05:02 dcook        So I have "D000419Q000821" as my 001 in the database...
05:01 dcook        Holy...
04:43 dcook        Guess it's time to play around with the -match flag... ugh
04:43 dcook        As it relies on data that might've changed in the incoming record
04:43 dcook        Actually, "FindDuplicateAuthority" won't work either...
04:40 cait         hi dcook :)
04:39 dcook        Because otherwise we're making duplicates...
04:39 dcook        And if it's absent, it'll skip it
04:38 dcook        Or maybe it'll only overwrite if the "-u" flag is added...
04:38 dcook        Heya cait
04:38 dcook        If there is one duplicate found, it'll overwrite it. If there are more than one found, it will skip the record.
04:38 dcook        Using "FindDuplicateAuthority"
04:38 dcook        I think I'm still going to fix up the script a bit though..
04:37 dcook        That way Koha will add the authid into the 001 so that the update should work
04:37 dcook        I'm thinking the thing to do is probably add a "-keepid=035a" parameter when doing the imports...
04:36 dcook        Fortunately, I was able to delete the records I'd imported before they were used or noticed by anyone...
04:36 dcook        Sounds good
04:35 mtj          i plan to be doing some AUTH stuff next week, so ill keep a look out then
04:35 dcook        No worries :)
04:34 mtj          hey dcook, thanks for the heads-up ^^
04:13 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bumping database version
04:13 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #94: FIXED in 59 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12/94/
04:13 wahanui      o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
04:13 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
04:11 dcook        This is rather frustrating...
04:05 huginn       eythian: The operation succeeded.
04:05 eythian      @later tell cait http://www.goethe.de/ins/nz/en/wel/lrn/11753201.html
03:56 * dcook      can fix this...
03:56 * dcook      is a broken record
03:56 dcook        Yep, no way bulkmarcimport.pl -u -a would ever ever ever ever work when using a 001 that isn't a Koha authid...
03:52 dcook        Oh right...fixing bulkmarcimport.pl. That's what I was doing...
03:50 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bumping database version
03:50 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #86: FIXED in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/86/
03:50 wahanui      o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
03:50 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
03:32 huginn       dcook: The operation succeeded.
03:32 dcook        @later tell mtj: If I understand bulkmarcimport.pl correctly, there is no way bulkmarcimport.pl -u is actually updating your LA authority records correctly, if they have a LA control number in the 001...
03:15 dcook        So not cool...
03:13 dcook        It would just create duplicate records
03:13 dcook        I don't think that could ever work as expected, unless the 001 contained a Koha authid
03:11 dcook        I'm starting to have doubts about bulkmarcimport.pl -u
03:11 dcook        mtj: Are you around?
03:05 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6311deca90f6c13c41d963c6643b4e12d6092708>
03:03 dcook        Suppose it doesn't matter too much as a full re-index should be done anyway, but curious...
03:03 dcook        Only have entries every 5 seconds as well...curious
03:02 dcook        Have a few spurrious entries with a number of "0" but not 630k of them..
03:01 dcook        And bulkmarcimport.pl is passing in alphanumeric 001 data as if it were a Koha generated authid...
03:00 dcook        Because biblio_auth_number is BIGINT(20) in zebraqueue...
02:59 dcook        Ahh, I think I might know why Zebra didn't get involved...
02:58 pianohacker  bye all
02:58 pianohacker  all right, mountain time signing out
02:57 * dcook      would love to know why he doesn't have a ton of zebraqueue entries after loading MeSH...
02:57 eythian      I'm probably looking at the wrong thing
02:57 eythian      no, I'm missing something here. There's hashes involved that are never referenced.
02:56 dcook        I'm sure folks use it though
02:56 dcook        I'm not a huge fan of the cart...it adds work :/
02:56 dcook        As for the result you're getting... *shrug*
02:56 dcook        I was thinking more so in terms of why it shows the last value rather than the first...that you could look at the actual Template Toolkit modules to see how they handle arrayrefs
02:56 eythian      maybe I'm looking at the wrong template
02:55 wahanui      http://media.moddb.com/images/groups/1/3/2933/collapsing.gif
02:55 dcook        No?
02:55 dcook        Probably?
02:55 dcook        Sure!
02:54 eythian      oh, you mean the compiled version
02:54 eythian      I am looking at the template
02:54 dcook        I've done that before with filters as it seemed utterly impossible
02:54 pianohacker  as opposed to the $template->param( %$borrower ); you used to see everywhere
02:53 dcook        eythian: look at the TT source code?
02:53 * eythian    wonders what he's missing.
02:53 eythian      But it does.
02:53 * eythian    has come to the conclusion that there's no way this code could actually work.
02:53 pianohacker  You can just pass a hashref to a template and let it access the individual fields on its own
02:53 dcook        I've read a few posts about people who don't like using templates, and it just boggles my mind...
02:53 pianohacker  I can do things like [% USER_INFO.0.borrowernumber %] to get the borrowernumber of the logged in user without any special provision to unpack it for the template
02:52 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12512 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed by Module Maintainer , PROG/CCSR deprecation: Remove OpacShowFiltersPulldownMobile system preference
02:52 jenkins_koha Owen Leonard: Bug 12512 - PROG/CCSR deprecation: Remove OpacShowFiltersPulldownMobile system preference
02:52 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #85: UNSTABLE in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/85/
02:52 dcook        tt++
02:52 pianohacker  tt++
02:52 dcook        I know I used it before TT, but I think I came just as TT was becoming a thing
02:52 dcook        Yikes...that would've been
02:52 pianohacker  that was _so_ damn annoying
02:52 pianohacker  dcook: It was HTML::Template::Pro that could only take scalars (and arrayrefs only for looping)
02:51 dcook        I don't think I've ever seen that
02:51 dcook        Really?
02:51 rangi        we do it all the time
02:50 dcook        Hmm, I didn't know you could pass objects to TT...
02:47 * dcook      tips his imaginary hat
02:47 dcook        hehe
02:47 eythian      dcook: annoyingly, that link covers everything except the specific case I have :)
02:47 eythian      maybe, but that'd be a strange thing to do.
02:47 dcook        http://search.cpan.org/~abw/Template-Toolkit/lib/Template/Manual/Variables.pod#List_References
02:46 dcook        Maybe TT treats all arrays as lists
02:46 * dcook      needs to remember to send a patch for GetMarcNotes...
02:46 eythian      that'd be a perly thing to do with a list, but not an array.
02:45 dcook        I think I may have passed an arrayref and accessed it as a scalar the other day and got the last value...
02:44 dcook        Mmm, that also sounds familiar...
02:44 eythian      I would have expected the first one most likely
02:43 eythian      it _seems_ that it's giving the last value.
02:43 eythian      Notes : [% BIBLIO_RESULT.notes %]
02:43 eythian      if you send a cart, it uses GetMarcNotes, puts it into a few things, and later on does
02:42 wahanui      the results are *very* promising, so far.
02:42 dcook        What are the results?
02:42 dcook        Oh?
02:42 eythian      So I'm trying to figure out if I'm reading it wrong, or if it's just something I don't expect that is actually happening.
02:42 eythian      Well, I can see a place in Koha where this is happening, and the results aren't what I'd expect at all.
02:42 * dcook      goes back to poking bulkmarcimport.pl
02:41 dcook        One way to find out I suppose
02:41 dcook        So maybe I wasn't lying after all
02:41 dcook        Hmm, good point
02:41 eythian      I'd expect that to give you a structure of data
02:41 eythian      that I wouldn't expect to do that either
02:41 eythian      hmm
02:40 dcook        I've seen it before, but I think it was just when using the Data::Dumper TT plugin
02:40 dcook        No idea then
02:40 dcook        My bad
02:40 dcook        I'm probably thinking of that actually
02:40 dcook        I might be thinking of [% Dumper.variable %]
02:40 dcook        Oh, maybe I'm lying to you...
02:39 dcook        It'll be like HASH{blahblah}
02:39 eythian      perl would, but I wouldn't expect TT to do that
02:39 dcook        But I've seen that happen with hashes
02:39 dcook        That's probably not what it's called
02:39 dcook        eythian: I think it'll print out the arrayref memory address
02:39 dcook        bgkriegel++
02:39 eythian      if you give an arrayref to a TT template, and it just displays it with [% variable %], what is it actually going to display, anyone know?
02:39 dcook        mveron++
02:39 huginn       dcook: mveron was last seen in #koha 2 days, 11 hours, 13 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <mveron> Produces html data. If patron does not have an email address or -n (no mail) flag is set, an HTML file is generated in the specified directory. This can be downloaded or futher processed by library staff. The file will be called notices-YYYY-MM-DD.html and placed in the directory specified.
02:39 dcook        @seen mveron
02:32 dcook        Wow, well done MarcEdit... I just loaded the entirety of MeSH (630,000+ records) into it. It was a bit slow but it didn't crash like the other editors did...
02:28 rangi        we really should do something smarter
02:28 rangi        yeah, i always switch that syspref off
02:25 dcook        :(
02:24 * eythian    notes that we are still emailing plaintext passwords when an account is created.
02:24 * dcook      didn't mean to divert conversation away from deprecating prog and CCSR
02:24 dcook        Suppose anything medical would be stressful as well though..
02:23 dcook        I would love to do more work with our medical libraries... must be a rather fascinating job
02:23 pianohacker  :)
02:20 dcook        :)
02:20 rangi        :)
02:20 rangi        close enough
02:20 rangi        thats how i remember it anyway
02:19 rangi        650 = 150
02:19 eythian      of course it is
02:19 dcook        It's part of MeSH
02:19 eythian      duh
02:19 eythian      oh
02:19 dcook        ^
02:19 rangi        its an authority
02:19 eythian      dcook: 150 isn't a thing
02:19 eythian      I feel that mine is big enough I'd like a second opinion on it not breaking things.
02:19 rangi        cos theres a lot, that need to all be tested together really
02:18 dcook        Me wonders what "150 $a Hope $x radition effects" would mean...
02:18 rangi        and putting them all on a branch and testing lots, so then tcohen can merge it
02:18 eythian      ah k
02:18 rangi        sweet im picking out the ones that have passed qa
02:17 eythian      rangi: I have one somewhere to remove it from the packages and related scripts, just in case you hadn't seen it.
02:16 rangi        where im collecting all the prog/ccsr removal patches
02:16 rangi        its just in my module maintainer branch
02:16 rangi        its a ccsr only pref, its not gone yet
02:16 dcook        Certainly a mouthful
02:15 dcook        OpacShowFiltersPulldownMobile...
02:15 dcook        I...
02:14 pianohacker  glad that's gone
02:14 pianohacker  dear lord!
02:04 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12512 - PROG/CCSR deprecation: Remove OpacShowFiltersPulldownMobile system preference <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=243fd9fd3840af6037478280d07b8ac453ade8f3>
00:33 pianohacker  triply nested closures hell yeah
00:09 wizzyrea     hi papa :)
00:01 papa         g'day