IRC log for #koha, 2014-07-21

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01:32 Dyrcona rangi: I'm going to see if I can do this with as little disruption as possible. I've had some ideas that involve drastic reorganization of the current code.
01:33 Dyrcona rangi: I'll still have to change function interfaces at a minimum.
01:33 rangi sweet as
02:18 eythian @wunder nzwn
02:18 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (2:00 PM NZST on July 21, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady).
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04:09 cait morning #koha
04:12 eythian hi cait
04:13 cait hi eythian
04:13 cait not sure when i will get to it, but i will try to get it working
04:13 eythian k
04:13 dcook hey cait
04:13 eythian it's literally a five minute job
04:13 dcook @wunder sydney, australia
04:13 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 15.0°C (2:00 PM EST on July 21, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
04:13 eythian @wunder nzwn
04:13 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (4:00 PM NZST on July 21, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady).
04:13 eythian hasn't changed much
04:18 cait @wunder Konstanz
04:18 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 15.0°C (6:00 AM CEST on July 21, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
04:18 dcook Whoa, I didn't realize it's been two hours..
04:19 dcook Mmm summer...
04:19 cait eythian: i believe you... but I don't have good memories fo trying to set up caching :)
04:19 eythian that's why I wrote it down :)
04:47 cait that's what i had hoped for :)
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05:38 eythian does Koha have a proper password reset function yet?
05:39 eythian i.e. where you can put your email address in and it'll send you a reset link?
05:39 cait sadly no
05:39 cait there is abug with a patch set
05:39 eythian rats
05:39 dcook I think blou was working on that?
05:39 cait yeah
05:39 cait but i think it needed some more work
05:39 dcook Yeah, I haven't looked in a while
05:39 cait it would be nice if it worked similar to the patron registration feature
05:39 cait sending out an emai with a one time link
05:40 cait bug 8753
05:40 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8753 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Failed QA , Add forgot password link to OPAC
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06:30 dcook I think I might actually like DBIx::Class...
06:30 dcook Bit of a learning curve, but it's a bit handy
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06:44 eythian yep
06:44 dcook Not sure how to handle composite primary keys yet though...
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06:47 cait good morning #koha
06:49 dcook Hmm, I wonder if "primary" functions that way...
06:49 dcook I bet it does...
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06:50 dcook As it's the only constraint obviously defined in the ResultSet...
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06:58 reiveune hello
06:58 wahanui salut, reiveune
07:01 ashimema Good morning #koha
07:02 cait good morning ashimema :)
07:02 ashimema hi cait
07:02 ashimema hi dcook
07:02 dcook heya ashimema
07:02 wahanui ashimema is on qa now .)
07:03 dcook Did you see the epic comments of mine? :p
07:03 dcook In regards to that QP OpacSuppression bug that is
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07:04 * dcook figures there might be epic-length comments elsewhere as well...
07:04 cait i did
07:04 ashimema was just about to go take a look
07:04 cait does it translate to: it's fixable?
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07:04 dcook cait: very easily
07:04 dcook ashimema's patch was just about there
07:04 dcook But instead of ($query) -suppress:1
07:04 ashimema it's been a busy weekend of tidying the house so the computer has been unplugged
07:04 dcook It should be ($query) && -(suppress:1)
07:04 dcook ashimema: I hear that...we're having a lot of out of town guests this week
07:04 ashimema oh.. cool.
07:05 dcook Alternatively, it could be...
07:05 dcook ($query) && -suppress:-"1"
07:05 dcook I believe
07:05 ashimema will have a play with the code some time today then assuming I get a restbite of more than five minutes at any point ;)
07:05 dcook Hehe. Fair enough.
07:05 * dcook has been playing with frameworks today
07:05 ashimema did you get on ok with dbic..
07:06 dcook Surprisingly so yeah
07:06 ashimema I saw your comment above about primary keys..
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07:06 dcook Turns out using key => "primary" did the trick
07:06 ashimema so far they've worked ok for me in my limited use.. including a couple of cases of composite keys.
07:06 dcook Or at least it seemed to...
07:06 ashimema fantastic.
07:06 dcook I had a bad experience using Dbic with, but...
07:07 dcook That was a bit of an exceptional case
07:07 ashimema I have to admit, I'm still a tad baffled as to koha's use of dbic.
07:07 dcook Honestly, I haven't really touched it much before today
07:07 ashimema shoe horning it in feels like it's made it more complicated than it needs to be.
07:07 dcook Hmm
07:07 cait shoe horning?
07:07 cait aah
07:07 dcook After reading through the documentation today, it seemed like it was implemented ok?
07:08 dcook But I haven't really checked through toom uch
07:08 cait i think kyle has been working on moving some modules over
07:08 cait maybe a good start to take a look
07:09 ashimema I've not really seen it in use much.. but the couple of cases I saw seems to add some random boilerplate..
07:09 ashimema but then, maybe I was looking at bad exmaples ;)
07:10 ashimema cait, 'shoe horn' - to force something to fit, even though it doesn't naturally go in the gap.
07:10 cait thx :)
07:11 Joubu Good morning
07:11 ashimema ack.. I have a customer here that thinks authentication should just happen by magic
07:11 dcook morning, Joubu
07:12 ashimema they can't agree to send me anythign form or attribute to match upon..
07:12 dcook ashimema: I'm trying to think of something to clever to say in response to that  but I got nothing
07:12 dcook That sucks :/
07:12 ashimema wow.. that last one was so full of typo's it barely makes any sense
07:13 ashimema brain moving fater than fingers again.. 'any form of attribute' vs 'anything to'
07:13 ashimema you get the drift though ;)
07:14 dcook I really really do
07:14 ashimema anywho, enough public ranting for me for one day ;)
07:15 ashimema I'm gonna take a look through your comments over breakfast dcook.. :)
07:15 ashimema let's show horn that in ;)
07:16 dcook If that's enough public ranting, you might want to skip those comments :p
07:17 dcook Then again, if you want a somewhat in-depth look at PQF queries, please read :)
07:17 cait i don't understand them, but i was very impressed ;)
07:17 dcook I'm thinking about writing up a wiki page with the synthesis of what I read..
07:17 dcook wrote..not read
07:17 dcook Hehe. Well, I'm glad you were impressed, cait :)
07:17 dcook Hopefully I can write out an explanation that will make sense to folks.
07:18 ashimema That would be super usefull dcook..
07:18 dcook :)
07:18 ashimema understanding zebra queries has been somthing on my list to learn for ages..
07:18 ashimema at the moment they fit into the black magic category
07:18 dcook Yeah, it used to freak me out, and then I just dove into it
07:18 dcook dove? dived?
07:18 dcook Well, I'll try to explain away the black magic :)
07:19 * dcook wonders why his wife isn't calling him about dinner plans...
07:20 cait heh
07:20 ashimema lol
07:21 ashimema you've certainly spent some time with it..
07:21 ashimema wow those comments are enlightening.. somewhat confusing at times.. but enlightening too ;)
07:21 dcook I imagine the stream of consciousness is confusing, but I was hoping that folks might see my thought process as I go and find it enlightening
07:22 cait i prefer too many comments to not enough
07:22 cait and too many... i think you didn't reach that yet :)
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07:27 ashimema wow..
07:27 ashimema Just got to the end of your comments..
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07:28 ashimema I'm impressed by the lengths you went to to prove the syntax..
07:28 ashimema thanks..
07:28 ashimema that's an early version of the patch I had.. it's nice to know I wasn't as far off as I'de thought..
07:29 ashimema I'de ended up trying a whole host of other solutions which all failed.. like passing in the supression before the build query.. and varouse other things..
07:29 ashimema thanks dcook..
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07:30 gaetan_B hello
07:35 dcook no worries, ashimema :)
07:35 dcook Yeah, I'm a bit impressed by the lengths I went to as well, haha
07:36 dcook That night you told me about the problem, I was annoyed that I couldn't figure out the solution from the docs...
07:36 dcook But then I realized that a few simple tests would easily prove it
07:36 * dcook literally added records "A","B","C","D", and "E" to a Koha database
07:36 dcook hey, gaetan_B :)
07:36 dcook cait: I prefer too many to too few as well :)
07:37 * dcook has confirmation on dinner plans!
07:37 ashimema There is one bit I'm still a tad confused by though
07:37 ashimema I think i've got muddled somehow with regards to when a query should and shouldn't be ccl vs pqf..
07:38 ashimema you seemed to do an about turn on the 'we'll need to do a regex to see if it's pqf' bit?
07:43 dcook Ah, yeah
07:44 dcook Apparently when buildQuery creates a pqf query, it returns "pqf"
07:44 dcook In $query_lang or something like that
07:44 dcook Ordinarily, when it's our badly parsed query, that variable is empty
07:48 dcook But gotta run for dinner
07:48 dcook :)
07:48 dcook ashimema: PM me if you have any more questions :)
07:48 ashimema So.. in my patch, I use the QP variable to work out whether to append the opacsurpession stuff before or after the buildquery statement.. then I add it one way before and a different way after.
07:49 ashimema I'm wondering if that's still the right way to go about it..
07:49 dcook Oooo right
07:49 ashimema (it's gonna be a hack with the curent state whatever ;) )
07:49 ashimema nietherof us has to time to re-rwite search right now ;)
07:49 dcook I suppose I'd probably not use your patch actually :/
07:49 ashimema that's what I thought :)
07:49 dcook I'd probably do a new one and use that return value from buildQuery to see if it's pqf or not
07:50 dcook Then hack it before it goes to getRecords
07:50 ashimema That makes sense.
07:50 dcook But gotta run! Have a good day/night/time of day!
07:50 dcook night all
07:50 wahanui goodnight dcook. You'll be back.
07:50 ashimema night mate.. have a good one.
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08:21 marcelr hi #koha
08:24 cait hi marcelr :)
08:24 marcelr hi cait
08:25 cait i am looking for someone being able to test ldap or sip... could I persuade you to take on one of those?
08:25 cait also someone giving the CAS patch another try, as I am failing miserably
08:26 cait ashimema? :) talking to you too! :)
08:26 marcelr :)
08:26 ashimema Hi cait..
08:27 ashimema I can try to fit one in.. a tad busy at the moment :(
08:27 ashimema Is there anything public to test against CAS wise?
08:27 cait biblibre has provided a test server
08:27 ashimema we've never used it here.
08:27 cait if you drop matthias an email i think he can give you the certificate and data
08:27 ashimema i'll have  aread of the patch first.
08:27 cait matts around?
08:28 matts cait, around
08:28 cait matts: i am trying to find another tester for CAS - I think i am stuck with it
08:29 cait and maybe it's something in my setip
08:29 cait setup
08:29 matts yes, if someone drops me an email, I'll be glad to transfer the certificate and instructions
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08:57 cait Joubu++ thx for fixing 12323
09:15 cait hm someone biblibre around?
09:15 cait Joubu?
09:15 wahanui Joubu is not his irc name?
09:16 cait forget Joubu
09:16 wahanui cait: I forgot joubu
09:19 Joubu cait: yep
09:19 Joubu I have seen your pm
09:20 cait ok :)
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09:32 jajm cait, I sent a follow up to bug 7162 for (Y)/(N) removal, should I change bug status ?
09:32 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7162 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Factorize code for order cancellation
09:34 cait jajm: hm, it's not yet pushed, i will try to take a look tonight
09:34 cait shoudl be small enough for a qa follow up
09:34 jajm ok, thanks
09:34 cait switch to signed off? i will reset when tested?
09:35 jajm ok changed to signed off
09:35 cait ah i see not just changed the strings
09:35 cait what does the onclick="window.location='[% referrer %]';return false;" / do?
09:36 cait asking to make it quicker :)
09:38 jajm cait, i changed only the strings, the onclick attribute makes you go back to the previous page when you click on "No"
09:39 cait cool, shoudl be quick
09:39 cait just has to wait for tonight
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11:38 * cait waves
11:42 cait gmcharlt: ping?
11:42 wahanui Using deft allegory, the authors have provided an insightful and intuitive explanation of one of Unix's most venerable networking utilities.[…]oks/dp/0448421658
11:50 cait tcohen: ping?
11:50 wahanui Using deft allegory, the authors have provided an insightful and intuitive explanation of one of Unix's most venerable networking utilities.[…]oks/dp/0448421658
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12:34 tcohen morning !
12:34 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
12:34 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 9.8°C (9:30 AM ART on July 21, 2014). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising).
12:35 cait good morning tcohen...
12:35 cait and he already left again? :)
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12:38 tcohen QA people, you're going too fast, my queue is filling fast :-P
12:38 tcohen qa++
12:39 cait heh, it's our job!
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12:43 gerundio hi
12:43 wahanui hello, gerundio
12:44 gerundio any koha-auth expert around?
12:44 gerundio I've having a hard time linking auth and biblio records for a given authority type
12:47 gerundio can't really figure out why author records matching is failing
12:50 gerundio
12:51 gerundio I've managed to index other 2 authority types which seemed more complex for starters
12:51 gerundio these one seems pretty straightforward but somehow is failling
12:52 gerundio I've performed several tests and have been trying to work with a single AUT record
12:52 gerundio as shown in the paste above
12:53 gerundio no matter what I do I always get the "WARNING: authority not found" for each of the records of this authority type
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14:08 tcohen Joubu: around?
14:09 Joubu tcohen: completly annoyed, but around yes
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14:25 lovetruth hello
14:26 lovetruth I installed koha as root
14:26 lovetruth and got this error
14:26 lovetruth
14:26 lovetruth here's
14:27 lovetruth and 2064 line
14:30 lovetruth should I just reinstall it?...
14:30 cait lovetruth: have you run the webinstaller yet?
14:31 lovetruth I have the error on opening the web page
14:31 jcamins lovetruth: when you say you installed Koha as root, what do you mean?
14:33 lovetruth I meant I gave all commands as root
14:33 lovetruth su
14:33 lovetruth and then all the rest
14:33 jcamins What commands?
14:33 wahanui commands are the one that i posted above
14:33 lovetruth using[…]LL.ubuntu;hb=HEAD
14:33 jcamins Ah.
14:34 jcamins What I would recommend is following the instructions for installing Koha using packages.
14:39 lovetruth which instructions?... apt-get install koha-common?...
14:40 jcamins packages?
14:40 wahanui somebody said packages was at
14:40 jcamins ^^ those
14:40 wahanui ^^ those are the ones still 100ms and greater
14:40 lovetruth and how do I completely safely uninstall it then?...
14:40 lovetruth to do as you said?...
14:41 jcamins No idea.
14:41 jcamins You could probably just remove the source directory and then start on the packages.
14:42 jcamins Unless you installed libraries using CPAN or some other non-apt method, in which case I have no idea what state your system would be in. I haven't used the deprecated instructions in years.
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14:43 lovetruth jcamins, I've used cpan and cpanm
14:43 jcamins In that case, I can't give you any advice, sorry.
14:44 jcamins I just haven't worked on a system set up that way in far too long to be comfortable telling you what you should do.
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15:04 reiveune bye
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15:13 cait @later tell bgkriegel there is something weird with our po files and poedit - it claims there is an untranslated string ineach file... which i can't find :( maybe a bug in poedit?
15:13 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
15:15 cait hm i think i definitely missed the right moment ot leave...
15:15 cait ... RAIN.
15:16 cait lots of it
15:36 Joubu Someone tried to apply 11911 on sandbox 1. It's not possible, there is no patch applied on the bug report.
15:36 Joubu s/11911/11944
15:36 Joubu to test 11944, please use sandbox 6 and 16
15:40 Joubu see you
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15:56 cbrannon Is there a meeting going on?
15:57 cbrannon barton: are you in?
15:58 gaetan_B bye!
15:58 barton yes!
15:59 cbrannon barton, do you know if there is a problem with printing under the new opac bootstrap theme?
15:59 barton not that I'm aware of ...
16:00 cbrannon I've tried it from IE and FF, and when I try to print the search results page, I see a whole mess of odd links.  Can you confirm?
16:01 barton sure. Is there a particular URL that you're trying to print?
16:01 barton or is it anything on in the OPAC?
16:01 cbrannon nope.  Just search for something.  When you get results on the opac (bootstrap theme), print the page.
16:01 cbrannon I seems like anything.  And it could be more than just the results.
16:03 cbrannon Looks like the links are printed, even if I print the home page on the OPAC.
16:05 barton cbrannon -- yeah, now that I print that out, it does look familiar...
16:05 barton I think that there's a bug open for that; lemme see if I can find it.
16:06 cbrannon I couldn't find any bugs listed, but maybe I'm not searching correctly.
16:07 barton[…]_bug.cgi?id=12073
16:07 huginn Bug 12073: minor, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , OPAC detail page printing show links URL
16:08 cbrannon Thanks.  I'll put in a request for that patch.
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16:37 lovetruth hello
16:37 wahanui hola, lovetruth
16:37 lovetruth I'm trying to install koha
16:37 lovetruth Xubuntu 12.04
16:37 lovetruth x64
16:37 lovetruth a2ensite library
16:38 lovetruth keeps telling me      ERROR: Site library does not exist!
16:38 lovetruth c'mon!...
16:39 lovetruth so?...
16:41 cait did you create the instance first?
16:41 lovetruth what do you mean?...
16:41 lovetruth --create-db?
16:42 cait koha-create --create-db library
16:42 lovetruth yes
16:42 lovetruth created it
16:42 lovetruth removed it
16:42 lovetruth created it again
16:42 cait you shouldn't need to do the a2ensite bit i think
16:42 cait it should do it itself
16:42 lovetruth (removed with koha-remove library)
16:42 lovetruth then why it does not exist?...
16:43 cait andit's probably library.conf
16:43 cait maybe
16:43 cait not sure
16:43 lovetruth then I should just continue along?...
16:43 cait you could check your sited-enabled sites-available
16:43 cait have you checked yet if you can access it?
16:43 lovetruth you mean the apache/sites-available
16:43 cait yes
16:43 lovetruth I'm doing everything as root
16:43 cait for packages that's alright
16:44 lovetruth :/etc# ls apache2/sites-available/
16:44 lovetruth gives    default  default-ssl  library.conf
16:44 cait loooksok then
16:44 cait you might want to turn off the default
16:44 lovetruth although library.conf is empty
16:44 cait a2dissite defaut i think
16:44 cait hmi thnmk it's a symlink
16:45 lovetruth -rw-r----- 1 root library-koha    0 Jul 21 19:32 library.conf
16:45 lovetruth that from ls -l
16:45 cait i can't really check right now
16:46 lovetruth well it's not, at my pc
16:46 lovetruth it should be ?...
16:46 cait did you set up the sites.conf? after the koha-create if that went right, you should be able to access your installatio
16:46 cait i amo
16:46 cait sorry
16:46 cait maybe i got the file name a bit wrong, there is a conf file on how the instances should be created
16:46 cait if you are running koha not on 80 only, you might also want to add the other ports to your apache config
16:48 lovetruth library.conf is emtpy
16:48 lovetruth empty*
16:48 cait i amnot sure whatwentwrong
16:48 cait maybe try creating an instance with another name for testing
16:48 cait it should set up everything automatically
16:48 cait packages?
16:48 wahanui packages is probably at
16:58 lovetruth how can I clean reinstall??
17:00 cait i guess you can remove the packages and readd them, but i am not sure if that will remove all files of the already created instance
17:00 lovetruth sorry, but quite stupid setup has this koha... for now, at least, then... :)
17:04 cait once you figured it out, it will be very easy next time
17:04 cait i think your problem might be having tried a normal instance first
17:04 cait so you expect to have to do things differently mybe
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17:25 pianohacker yo
17:26 cait yo pianohacker
17:26 pianohacker hey cait :)
17:26 cait how are things?
17:27 pianohacker Good! Just working now for the next month before I head back to grad school, so life is much less chaotic
17:27 pianohacker you?
17:27 cait so flood of patches soon? :)
17:27 cait bit stressed as always,lots to do, not nearly enough time in a day :)
17:28 ashimema evening pianohacker
17:29 pianohacker hi ashimema!
17:29 pianohacker cait: besides a patch for bug 11211 (is that the right one?)
17:29 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11211 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Move calculation code out of C4::Calendar
17:30 pianohacker (yes, it is) I've been more busy with support work
17:30 cait pianohacker: i was hoping rancorupdate :)
17:30 cait time is running you know,... tick tick... 3.18 :)
17:31 pianohacker don't worry, that's on the docket
17:34 lovetruth ok, managed to the web installer
17:34 lovetruth but can't login
17:34 lovetruth what can I do?...
17:35 cait there is a command you can run to find out the password
17:35 cait packages?
17:35 wahanui packages is at
17:35 cait look for password there
17:36 lovetruth yes, it gave me some girbish
17:36 cait this user is only for creating you ar eal user and for running updates
17:36 cait the gibberisch is probably the password
17:36 cait the login name will be
17:36 cait hm library_koha or koha_library
17:36 cait i always confuse those
17:37 cait koha_instancename
17:37 lovetruth i've chosen differently. my instance name is koha
17:37 cait hm guess it's koha_koha then
17:37 lovetruth but koha_koha with the gibberisch didn't work
17:38 cait did you check the xml file directly?
17:39 lovetruth yes
17:39 lovetruth where it should be?
17:40 cait /etc/koha/sites/instancename/koha-conf.xml
17:40 cait you are looking for the db_user
17:40 lovetruth looked and found some koha_koha
17:41 lovetruth it's  <user>koha_koha</user>
17:41 lovetruth and <pass> under
17:41 cait and the passwort gibberish?
17:41 lovetruth yes
17:41 lovetruth but doesn't work
17:41 cait hm that shuld work then
17:41 lovetruth what can I do?...
17:42 cait check if there is more than one koha_koha appearing
17:42 lovetruth only one
17:42 cait hm that should work then
17:42 lovetruth actually there is <database>koha_koha
17:42 lovetruth and <user>koha_koha
17:42 lovetruth but only one user
17:43 lovetruth how can I fix it?
17:44 cait i think the xml file looks correct
17:44 cait i am not sure what went wrong
17:44 cait could it be you are actually seeing the web installer for an ealrier created instance?
17:45 cait is there another instance maybe?
17:45 lovetruth i don't think so
17:45 lovetruth removed everything and reinstalled
17:45 lovetruth and it didn't work
17:45 lovetruth but after installing this, it worked
17:45 lovetruth how can I check?
17:45 cait i think there woudl be another directory
17:45 cait with a xml file then
17:47 lovetruth I'll catfish it
17:47 lovetruth search in all pc
17:47 tcohen hi
17:55 cait hi tcohen
17:55 cait tcohen: do you knwo any reason the database password for an instance wouldn't work?
17:56 lovetruth you were right, cait  :)
17:57 cait oh?
17:57 lovetruth had a previous koha-conf.xml file :)
17:57 lovetruth worked with that :)
17:57 lovetruth I assume I can delete the other conf xml file?
17:59 cait i'd keep it for now
17:59 cait being a bit careful with deleting :)
17:59 jcamins lovetruth: you should be looking at the file in /etc/koha/sites/koha/ . If that is not the case, that's bad.
17:59 jcamins I wouldn't delete anything, however.
18:01 lovetruth jcamins, that is the point
18:01 lovetruth the password from there didn't work
18:01 lovetruth but the one from /etc/koha
18:01 lovetruth and on /etc/koha was the previous install
18:01 lovetruth which didn't work... and reinstalled it
18:02 jcamins lovetruth: in that case, you're not using the installation the packages did, and I would anticipate everything being broken.
18:02 lovetruth and now works with this new installation, but... strangely... it uses that conf.xml file
18:02 cait i think maybe by installing the packaging dependencies
18:02 jcamins Probably in somewhat subtle ways.
18:02 lovetruth jcamins, I installed using some[…]LL.ubuntu;hb=HEAD
18:02 cait you fixed your problem with the non pakace install
18:02 lovetruth and used cpan and cpanm to install it
18:03 lovetruth fixed all dependencies
18:03 jcamins lovetruth: oh, I thought you were switching to using a package install.
18:03 cait jcamins: he was...
18:03 lovetruth but gave some error on some code on
18:03 lovetruth so I decided to remove everything
18:03 lovetruth and install using apt-get and so on
18:03 jcamins As long as you're aware that you don't have a package installation, you're good.
18:03 jcamins cait: ah, so, not good at all.
18:04 * jcamins shares some fruit salad.
18:04 lovetruth so installed koha-common and koha stuff there in synaptic
18:04 cait heh thx
18:04 cait i tihnk you are looking at the wrong urls for the package install now
18:04 lovetruth and used some ubuntu 12 precise tutorial for koha install using apt-get
18:04 cait what url are you looking at for the web installer?
18:05 lovetruth standard koha:8080
18:05 jcamins You used a tutorial other than the one at:
18:05 jcamins packages?
18:05 wahanui i think packages is at
18:05 cait lovetruth: yeah, that looks not like a package url if you didn't change the standard settings i think
18:06 lovetruth well, it was some other site, but it contained kinda same thing
18:06 lovetruth I chose the standard settings
18:06 jcamins Yikes. I hope this isn't a production install.
18:06 cait what does your /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf look like?
18:07 lovetruth well, it's[…]LL.ubuntu;hb=HEAD
18:07 lovetruth cait, what do you mean?
18:07 cait did you change the file and what does it look like?
18:07 cait it's the file that has the necessary settings for creating an install and what the urls should look like
18:07 lovetruth I didn't manually change anything in it
18:08 lovetruth -rw-r----- 1 root www-data  6411 Jul 21 20:25 koha-conf.xml
18:10 cait if you look at the file
18:10 cait you see it's used to tell koha what urls will be used for opac and staff
18:10 cait the default will not work well on localhost i think
18:10 cait[…]e7f7ac426786896f8
18:11 lovetruth ah, modified the koha-sites.conf
18:11 lovetruth I did modified that :)
18:11 lovetruth modify* :)
18:11 lovetruth thanks
18:11 cait the ones with intra should tell you how to access your instance
18:11 lovetruth does it have Romanian?...
18:12 lovetruth can I add language?...
18:14 lovetruth Koha version:
18:14 cait translations?
18:14 wahanui hmmm... translations is
18:14 cait you can look up there how much of a language for a version is translated
18:15 lovetruth Readonly::XS Not Installed
18:15 lovetruth should I manually install it?
18:15 lovetruth using what, cpan?
18:16 cait which OS are you installing on?
18:16 lovetruth xubuntu 12.04
18:16 lovetruth x64
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18:19 cait hm
18:20 cait normally you don't need to cpan things, it shoudl be there from installing the packages
18:20 cait but not sure about xubuntu
18:21 lovetruth xubuntu is ubuntu with sort of xfce interface
18:22 tcohen cait: should we add to the dev meeting that we are moving to dancer?
18:23 cait oh i thought we were moving to python
18:23 tcohen
18:23 tcohen every1 agreed actually:[…]4-07-18#i_1538097
18:28 * wajasu i experimented in writing koha in golang. would think that is a feasable option someday.
18:35 pianohacker tcohen: I'm working on dealing with a massive JS chunk that is slowing page loads in Rancor
18:35 pianohacker tcohen: and is the easiest way I've found to deal with it. The downside is it has no package. Is that a problem?
18:35 tcohen you should contact eythian
18:37 cait hm maybe also oleonard could have an idea?
18:37 tcohen pianohacker: isn't that gracefuly handled by Apache?
18:37 cait compress and gzip. thought i had heard that before
18:38 pianohacker tcohen: this is dynamically generated JS (framework dump) so I don't think it does so atm
18:38 pianohacker maybe the config could be changed for it to do so
18:39 tcohen it seems to me that the headers might be wrongly sent
18:39 tcohen have you checked on browser debuggers
18:39 tcohen if it is already compressed?
18:40 tcohen on the other hand, contact eythian for adding new packages to the repo
18:40 pianohacker kk will do
18:40 * tcohen is checking the package builds in precise
18:41 jcamins Let's rewrite Koha in JAVA!
18:41 cait lol
18:41 cait you are late!
18:41 jcamins And by "'s" I mean "you guys."
18:42 * tcohen likes troll-mode jcamins
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18:46 jcamins Dyrcona told me how to get into it. Meta-control-t.
18:46 jcamins tcohen++
18:48 Dyrcona I thought it was <Escape> : troll-mode ? ;)
18:50 tcohen Dyrcona: Ctrl-k t in Sublime
18:51 Dyrcona Meta-X now-i-have-carpal-tunnel-syndrome
18:54 tcohen heh
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19:03 bgkriegel Hi all
19:04 bgkriegel cait: no problem for me with poedit and de-DE 3.16/4/2 files, all 100% translated
19:04 cait bgkriegel: yeah it's totally weird :(
19:04 cait bgkriegel: thx for checking! I requested an update of my poedit version (can't install on my windows work computer myself)
19:04 cait will see if that fixes it
19:05 bgkriegel just downloaded and open all of them
19:05 cait yeah did the same, it was really weird, consistently on  all files and all versions (3.12, 3.14, 3.16)
19:05 cait always one untranslated line
19:05 bgkriegel mmm...
19:06 cait i will see tomorrow with a newer poedit version
19:08 phasefx2 hey folks, I have a debian squeeze system that was running 3.12.. I added deb squeeze main and got it up to 3.13, and I thought that running koha-upgrade-schema would get it to 3.16, but that command isn't doing anything.  Am I missing something?  I could purge it all and reinstall; there's no critical data there
19:08 tcohen you mean 3.14?
19:09 phasefx2 the installed package is 3.16.01
19:09 phasefx2 koha-common
19:09 wahanui koha-common is probably the one you want, the main koha one needs a bit more work (its for setting up a single instance)
19:09 phasefx2 so I think my pain is going from stock debian to community repo
19:10 tcohen could you do apt-cache policy koha-common and paste the output?
19:10 phasefx2 so that's probably it, koha-upgrade-schema is expecting a multi-instance layout?
19:11 phasefx2 koha-common: Installed: 3.16.01 Candidate: 3.16.01 Version table: *** 3.16.01 0 500 squeeze/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
19:12 phasefx2 is telling me
19:13 phasefx2 hrmm.. this was also a git-based install at one point.. oy
19:15 pastebot "bgkriegel" at pasted "cait: output from pofilter searching for untranslated strings (3.16/14/12)" (16 lines) at
19:15 bgkriegel cait: running files using pofilter, no one untranslated
19:15 * phasefx2 is just going to purge and reinstall.. thanks folks :)
19:17 tcohen hey, while Carrie is around, now "Cristina" apeeared
19:20 * wajasu doing a 3.16.1 install now
19:23 tcohen pianohacker: it seems to build smoothly
19:24 pianohacker woot thanks tcohen
19:24 tcohen bye #koha
19:28 cait @later tell bgkriegel - thx for double checking! i guess it' sreally something with my poedit version
19:28 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
19:28 cait bgkriegel++
19:28 cait tcohen++
19:29 cait @later tell tcohen we want to use the RESTful API for ILL, but it's not in production yet, I think we can adapt - cleaner APIs are good
19:29 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
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19:46 rangi morning
19:48 pianohacker hi rangi
19:48 cait morning rangi
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20:28 kathryn hi cait :)
20:28 cait hi kathryn :)
20:39 rhcl Well, I thought it was funny.
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21:17 pianohacker rhcl: ?
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21:52 eythian hi
21:52 cait hi eythian :)
21:55 jburds_ Does anyone use Google Analytics to track searching on their OPAC?
21:55 cait one could
21:55 rangi piwik works better
21:55 jburds_ Trying to figure out the best way to show usage
21:56 rangi and respects privacy a lot more
21:56 cait jburds_: here it would be a big privacy problem
21:56 rangi
22:01 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11347 - PROG/CCSR deprecation: Remove opacsmallimage system-preference <[…]a9a50b5350819c1f1> / Bug 12519 - Convert OPAC list download pop-up to modal dialog <[…]a35323a0a9ea03a58>
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22:30 eythian @later tell pianohacker[…]rt.cgi?bug=755541
22:30 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
22:30 eythian oh, you're actually here.
22:30 eythian pianohacker: ^^
22:30 pianohacker hi eythian
22:30 eythian subscribe to that and you'll get dibs when it comes out.
22:30 eythian I won't put it into the Koha repo until it's acctually needed, that place is messy enough as is.
22:30 pianohacker eythian++
22:30 pianohacker you rock man
22:31 pianohacker I think at this point I owe you not a pint but a growler :P
22:31 rangi hoping to get the others that arent in, before the next stable release anyway .. hopefully so we can clean up the koha repo
22:31 * eythian needs to overhaul the package building process for dependencies
22:32 eythian yeah, quite a few are in there, but I need to identify all those that aren't.
22:32 rangi *nod*
22:32 rangi be cool if we could do something like the entropy tracker
22:32 rangi
22:32 rangi but just for the ones we care about
22:33 eythian[…] <-- not quite the same thing, but... :)
22:33 rangi yep
22:33 rangi[…]
22:33 rangi combine those 2 and we get most of them
22:34 rangi oh you can
22:35 eythian I should do some updates on some of my ones that have new upstreams
22:35 rangi[…]
22:36 rangi hmm or maybe not
22:36 rangi
22:36 rangi it says you can
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23:44 dcook Ooo, excited about the DataTables Colvis stuff...
23:44 * dcook actually hasn't looked but really wants to be able to hide columns easily...

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