Time Nick Message 01:32 Dyrcona rangi: I'm going to see if I can do this with as little disruption as possible. I've had some ideas that involve drastic reorganization of the current code. 01:33 Dyrcona rangi: I'll still have to change function interfaces at a minimum. 01:33 rangi sweet as 02:18 eythian @wunder nzwn 02:18 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (2:00 PM NZST on July 21, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). 04:09 cait morning #koha 04:12 eythian hi cait 04:13 cait hi eythian 04:13 cait not sure when i will get to it, but i will try to get it working 04:13 eythian k 04:13 dcook hey cait 04:13 eythian it's literally a five minute job 04:13 dcook @wunder sydney, australia 04:13 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 15.0°C (2:00 PM EST on July 21, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 04:13 eythian @wunder nzwn 04:13 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (4:00 PM NZST on July 21, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). 04:13 eythian hasn't changed much 04:18 cait @wunder Konstanz 04:18 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 15.0°C (6:00 AM CEST on July 21, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Falling). 04:18 dcook Whoa, I didn't realize it's been two hours.. 04:19 dcook Mmm summer... 04:19 cait eythian: i believe you... but I don't have good memories fo trying to set up caching :) 04:19 eythian that's why I wrote it down :) 04:47 cait that's what i had hoped for :) 05:38 eythian does Koha have a proper password reset function yet? 05:39 eythian i.e. where you can put your email address in and it'll send you a reset link? 05:39 cait sadly no 05:39 cait there is abug with a patch set 05:39 eythian rats 05:39 dcook I think blou was working on that? 05:39 cait yeah 05:39 cait but i think it needed some more work 05:39 dcook Yeah, I haven't looked in a while 05:39 cait it would be nice if it worked similar to the patron registration feature 05:39 cait sending out an emai with a one time link 05:40 cait bug 8753 05:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8753 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Failed QA , Add forgot password link to OPAC 06:30 dcook I think I might actually like DBIx::Class... 06:30 dcook Bit of a learning curve, but it's a bit handy 06:44 eythian yep 06:44 dcook Not sure how to handle composite primary keys yet though... 06:47 cait good morning #koha 06:49 dcook Hmm, I wonder if "primary" functions that way... 06:49 dcook I bet it does... 06:50 dcook As it's the only constraint obviously defined in the ResultSet... 06:58 reiveune hello 06:58 wahanui salut, reiveune 07:01 ashimema Good morning #koha 07:02 cait good morning ashimema :) 07:02 ashimema hi cait 07:02 ashimema hi dcook 07:02 dcook heya ashimema 07:02 wahanui ashimema is on qa now .) 07:03 dcook Did you see the epic comments of mine? :p 07:03 dcook In regards to that QP OpacSuppression bug that is 07:04 * dcook figures there might be epic-length comments elsewhere as well... 07:04 cait i did 07:04 ashimema was just about to go take a look 07:04 cait does it translate to: it's fixable? 07:04 dcook cait: very easily 07:04 dcook ashimema's patch was just about there 07:04 dcook But instead of ($query) -suppress:1 07:04 ashimema it's been a busy weekend of tidying the house so the computer has been unplugged 07:04 dcook It should be ($query) && -(suppress:1) 07:04 dcook ashimema: I hear that...we're having a lot of out of town guests this week 07:04 ashimema oh.. cool. 07:05 dcook Alternatively, it could be... 07:05 dcook ($query) && -suppress:-"1" 07:05 dcook I believe 07:05 ashimema will have a play with the code some time today then assuming I get a restbite of more than five minutes at any point ;) 07:05 dcook Hehe. Fair enough. 07:05 * dcook has been playing with frameworks today 07:05 ashimema did you get on ok with dbic.. 07:06 dcook Surprisingly so yeah 07:06 ashimema I saw your comment above about primary keys.. 07:06 dcook Turns out using key => "primary" did the trick 07:06 ashimema so far they've worked ok for me in my limited use.. including a couple of cases of composite keys. 07:06 dcook Or at least it seemed to... 07:06 ashimema fantastic. 07:06 dcook I had a bad experience using Dbic with Letters.pm, but... 07:07 dcook That was a bit of an exceptional case 07:07 ashimema I have to admit, I'm still a tad baffled as to koha's use of dbic. 07:07 dcook Honestly, I haven't really touched it much before today 07:07 ashimema shoe horning it in feels like it's made it more complicated than it needs to be. 07:07 dcook Hmm 07:07 cait shoe horning? 07:07 cait aah 07:07 dcook After reading through the documentation today, it seemed like it was implemented ok? 07:08 dcook But I haven't really checked through toom uch 07:08 cait i think kyle has been working on moving some modules over 07:08 cait maybe a good start to take a look 07:09 ashimema I've not really seen it in use much.. but the couple of cases I saw seems to add some random boilerplate.. 07:09 ashimema but then, maybe I was looking at bad exmaples ;) 07:10 ashimema cait, 'shoe horn' - to force something to fit, even though it doesn't naturally go in the gap. 07:10 cait thx :) 07:11 Joubu Good morning 07:11 ashimema ack.. I have a customer here that thinks authentication should just happen by magic 07:11 dcook morning, Joubu 07:12 ashimema they can't agree to send me anythign form or attribute to match upon.. 07:12 dcook ashimema: I'm trying to think of something to clever to say in response to that but I got nothing 07:12 dcook That sucks :/ 07:12 ashimema wow.. that last one was so full of typo's it barely makes any sense 07:13 ashimema brain moving fater than fingers again.. 'any form of attribute' vs 'anything to' 07:13 ashimema you get the drift though ;) 07:14 dcook I really really do 07:14 ashimema anywho, enough public ranting for me for one day ;) 07:15 ashimema I'm gonna take a look through your comments over breakfast dcook.. :) 07:15 ashimema let's show horn that in ;) 07:16 dcook If that's enough public ranting, you might want to skip those comments :p 07:17 dcook Then again, if you want a somewhat in-depth look at PQF queries, please read :) 07:17 cait i don't understand them, but i was very impressed ;) 07:17 dcook I'm thinking about writing up a wiki page with the synthesis of what I read.. 07:17 dcook wrote..not read 07:17 dcook Hehe. Well, I'm glad you were impressed, cait :) 07:17 dcook Hopefully I can write out an explanation that will make sense to folks. 07:18 ashimema That would be super usefull dcook.. 07:18 dcook :) 07:18 ashimema understanding zebra queries has been somthing on my list to learn for ages.. 07:18 ashimema at the moment they fit into the black magic category 07:18 dcook Yeah, it used to freak me out, and then I just dove into it 07:18 dcook dove? dived? 07:18 dcook Well, I'll try to explain away the black magic :) 07:19 * dcook wonders why his wife isn't calling him about dinner plans... 07:20 cait heh 07:20 ashimema lol 07:21 ashimema you've certainly spent some time with it.. 07:21 ashimema wow those comments are enlightening.. somewhat confusing at times.. but enlightening too ;) 07:21 dcook I imagine the stream of consciousness is confusing, but I was hoping that folks might see my thought process as I go and find it enlightening 07:22 cait i prefer too many comments to not enough 07:22 cait and too many... i think you didn't reach that yet :) 07:27 ashimema wow.. 07:27 ashimema Just got to the end of your comments.. 07:28 ashimema I'm impressed by the lengths you went to to prove the syntax.. 07:28 ashimema thanks.. 07:28 ashimema that's an early version of the patch I had.. it's nice to know I wasn't as far off as I'de thought.. 07:29 ashimema I'de ended up trying a whole host of other solutions which all failed.. like passing in the supression before the build query.. and varouse other things.. 07:29 ashimema thanks dcook.. 07:30 gaetan_B hello 07:35 dcook no worries, ashimema :) 07:35 dcook Yeah, I'm a bit impressed by the lengths I went to as well, haha 07:36 dcook That night you told me about the problem, I was annoyed that I couldn't figure out the solution from the docs... 07:36 dcook But then I realized that a few simple tests would easily prove it 07:36 * dcook literally added records "A","B","C","D", and "E" to a Koha database 07:36 dcook hey, gaetan_B :) 07:36 dcook cait: I prefer too many to too few as well :) 07:37 * dcook has confirmation on dinner plans! 07:37 ashimema There is one bit I'm still a tad confused by though 07:37 ashimema I think i've got muddled somehow with regards to when a query should and shouldn't be ccl vs pqf.. 07:38 ashimema you seemed to do an about turn on the 'we'll need to do a regex to see if it's pqf' bit? 07:43 dcook Ah, yeah 07:44 dcook Apparently when buildQuery creates a pqf query, it returns "pqf" 07:44 dcook In $query_lang or something like that 07:44 dcook Ordinarily, when it's our badly parsed query, that variable is empty 07:48 dcook But gotta run for dinner 07:48 dcook :) 07:48 dcook ashimema: PM me if you have any more questions :) 07:48 ashimema So.. in my patch, I use the QP variable to work out whether to append the opacsurpession stuff before or after the buildquery statement.. then I add it one way before and a different way after. 07:49 ashimema I'm wondering if that's still the right way to go about it.. 07:49 dcook Oooo right 07:49 ashimema (it's gonna be a hack with the curent state whatever ;) ) 07:49 ashimema nietherof us has to time to re-rwite search right now ;) 07:49 dcook I suppose I'd probably not use your patch actually :/ 07:49 ashimema that's what I thought :) 07:49 dcook I'd probably do a new one and use that return value from buildQuery to see if it's pqf or not 07:50 dcook Then hack it before it goes to getRecords 07:50 ashimema That makes sense. 07:50 dcook But gotta run! Have a good day/night/time of day! 07:50 dcook night all 07:50 wahanui goodnight dcook. You'll be back. 07:50 ashimema night mate.. have a good one. 08:21 marcelr hi #koha 08:24 cait hi marcelr :) 08:24 marcelr hi cait 08:25 cait i am looking for someone being able to test ldap or sip... could I persuade you to take on one of those? 08:25 cait also someone giving the CAS patch another try, as I am failing miserably 08:26 cait ashimema? :) talking to you too! :) 08:26 marcelr :) 08:26 ashimema Hi cait.. 08:27 ashimema I can try to fit one in.. a tad busy at the moment :( 08:27 ashimema Is there anything public to test against CAS wise? 08:27 cait biblibre has provided a test server 08:27 ashimema we've never used it here. 08:27 cait if you drop matthias an email i think he can give you the certificate and data 08:27 ashimema i'll have aread of the patch first. 08:27 cait matts around? 08:28 matts cait, around 08:28 cait matts: i am trying to find another tester for CAS - I think i am stuck with it 08:29 cait and maybe it's something in my setip 08:29 cait setup 08:29 matts yes, if someone drops me an email, I'll be glad to transfer the certificate and instructions 08:57 cait Joubu++ thx for fixing 12323 09:15 cait hm someone biblibre around? 09:15 cait Joubu? 09:15 wahanui Joubu is not his irc name? 09:16 cait forget Joubu 09:16 wahanui cait: I forgot joubu 09:19 Joubu cait: yep 09:19 Joubu I have seen your pm 09:20 cait ok :) 09:32 jajm cait, I sent a follow up to bug 7162 for (Y)/(N) removal, should I change bug status ? 09:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7162 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Factorize code for order cancellation 09:34 cait jajm: hm, it's not yet pushed, i will try to take a look tonight 09:34 cait shoudl be small enough for a qa follow up 09:34 jajm ok, thanks 09:34 cait switch to signed off? i will reset when tested? 09:35 jajm ok changed to signed off 09:35 cait ah i see not just changed the strings 09:35 cait what does the onclick="window.location='[% referrer %]';return false;" / do? 09:36 cait asking to make it quicker :) 09:38 jajm cait, i changed only the strings, the onclick attribute makes you go back to the previous page when you click on "No" 09:39 cait cool, shoudl be quick 09:39 cait just has to wait for tonight 11:38 * cait waves 11:42 cait gmcharlt: ping? 11:42 wahanui Using deft allegory, the authors have provided an insightful and intuitive explanation of one of Unix's most venerable networking utilities. http://www.amazon.com/Story-about-Reading-Railroad-Books/dp/0448421658 11:50 cait tcohen: ping? 11:50 wahanui Using deft allegory, the authors have provided an insightful and intuitive explanation of one of Unix's most venerable networking utilities. http://www.amazon.com/Story-about-Reading-Railroad-Books/dp/0448421658 12:34 tcohen morning ! 12:34 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 12:34 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 9.8°C (9:30 AM ART on July 21, 2014). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising). 12:35 cait good morning tcohen... 12:35 cait and he already left again? :) 12:38 tcohen QA people, you're going too fast, my queue is filling fast :-P 12:38 tcohen qa++ 12:39 cait heh, it's our job! 12:43 gerundio hi 12:43 wahanui hello, gerundio 12:44 gerundio any koha-auth expert around? 12:44 gerundio I've having a hard time linking auth and biblio records for a given authority type 12:47 gerundio can't really figure out why author records matching is failing 12:50 gerundio http://paste.koha-community.org/108 12:51 gerundio I've managed to index other 2 authority types which seemed more complex for starters 12:51 gerundio these one seems pretty straightforward but somehow is failling 12:52 gerundio I've performed several tests and have been trying to work with a single AUT record 12:52 gerundio as shown in the paste above 12:53 gerundio no matter what I do I always get the "WARNING: authority not found" for each of the records of this authority type 14:08 tcohen Joubu: around? 14:09 Joubu tcohen: completly annoyed, but around yes 14:25 lovetruth hello 14:26 lovetruth I installed koha as root 14:26 lovetruth and got this error 14:26 lovetruth http://scsys.co.uk:8002/408991 14:26 lovetruth here's DBI.pm http://scsys.co.uk:8002/408993 14:27 lovetruth and 2064 line http://scsys.co.uk:8002/408994 14:30 lovetruth should I just reinstall it?... 14:30 cait lovetruth: have you run the webinstaller yet? 14:31 lovetruth I have the error on opening the web page 14:31 jcamins lovetruth: when you say you installed Koha as root, what do you mean? 14:33 lovetruth I meant I gave all commands as root 14:33 lovetruth su 14:33 lovetruth and then all the rest 14:33 jcamins What commands? 14:33 wahanui commands are the one that i posted above 14:33 lovetruth using http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL.ubuntu;hb=HEAD 14:33 jcamins Ah. 14:34 jcamins What I would recommend is following the instructions for installing Koha using packages. 14:39 lovetruth which instructions?... apt-get install koha-common?... 14:40 jcamins packages? 14:40 wahanui somebody said packages was at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 14:40 jcamins ^^ those 14:40 wahanui ^^ those are the ones still 100ms and greater 14:40 lovetruth and how do I completely safely uninstall it then?... 14:40 lovetruth to do as you said?... 14:41 jcamins No idea. 14:41 jcamins You could probably just remove the source directory and then start on the packages. 14:42 jcamins Unless you installed libraries using CPAN or some other non-apt method, in which case I have no idea what state your system would be in. I haven't used the deprecated instructions in years. 14:43 lovetruth jcamins, I've used cpan and cpanm 14:43 jcamins In that case, I can't give you any advice, sorry. 14:44 jcamins I just haven't worked on a system set up that way in far too long to be comfortable telling you what you should do. 15:04 reiveune bye 15:13 cait @later tell bgkriegel there is something weird with our po files and poedit - it claims there is an untranslated string ineach file... which i can't find :( maybe a bug in poedit? 15:13 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 15:15 cait hm i think i definitely missed the right moment ot leave... 15:15 cait ... RAIN. 15:16 cait lots of it 15:36 Joubu Someone tried to apply 11911 on sandbox 1. It's not possible, there is no patch applied on the bug report. 15:36 Joubu s/11911/11944 15:36 Joubu to test 11944, please use sandbox 6 and 16 15:40 Joubu see you 15:56 cbrannon Is there a meeting going on? 15:57 cbrannon barton: are you in? 15:58 gaetan_B bye! 15:58 barton yes! 15:59 cbrannon barton, do you know if there is a problem with printing under the new opac bootstrap theme? 15:59 barton not that I'm aware of ... 16:00 cbrannon I've tried it from IE and FF, and when I try to print the search results page, I see a whole mess of odd links. Can you confirm? 16:01 barton sure. Is there a particular URL that you're trying to print? 16:01 barton or is it anything on in the OPAC? 16:01 cbrannon nope. Just search for something. When you get results on the opac (bootstrap theme), print the page. 16:01 cbrannon I seems like anything. And it could be more than just the results. 16:03 cbrannon Looks like the links are printed, even if I print the home page on the OPAC. 16:05 barton cbrannon -- yeah, now that I print that out, it does look familiar... 16:05 barton I think that there's a bug open for that; lemme see if I can find it. 16:06 cbrannon I couldn't find any bugs listed, but maybe I'm not searching correctly. 16:07 barton http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12073 16:07 huginn 04Bug 12073: minor, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , OPAC detail page printing show links URL 16:08 cbrannon Thanks. I'll put in a request for that patch. 16:37 lovetruth hello 16:37 wahanui hola, lovetruth 16:37 lovetruth I'm trying to install koha 16:37 lovetruth Xubuntu 12.04 16:37 lovetruth x64 16:37 lovetruth a2ensite library 16:38 lovetruth keeps telling me ERROR: Site library does not exist! 16:38 lovetruth c'mon!... 16:39 lovetruth so?... 16:41 cait did you create the instance first? 16:41 lovetruth what do you mean?... 16:41 lovetruth --create-db? 16:42 cait koha-create --create-db library 16:42 lovetruth yes 16:42 lovetruth created it 16:42 lovetruth removed it 16:42 lovetruth created it again 16:42 cait you shouldn't need to do the a2ensite bit i think 16:42 cait it should do it itself 16:42 lovetruth (removed with koha-remove library) 16:42 lovetruth then why it does not exist?... 16:43 cait andit's probably library.conf 16:43 cait maybe 16:43 cait not sure 16:43 lovetruth then I should just continue along?... 16:43 cait you could check your sited-enabled sites-available 16:43 cait have you checked yet if you can access it? 16:43 lovetruth you mean the apache/sites-available 16:43 cait yes 16:43 lovetruth I'm doing everything as root 16:43 cait for packages that's alright 16:44 lovetruth :/etc# ls apache2/sites-available/ 16:44 lovetruth gives default default-ssl library.conf 16:44 cait loooksok then 16:44 cait you might want to turn off the default 16:44 lovetruth although library.conf is empty 16:44 cait a2dissite defaut i think 16:44 cait hmi thnmk it's a symlink 16:45 lovetruth -rw-r----- 1 root library-koha 0 Jul 21 19:32 library.conf 16:45 lovetruth that from ls -l 16:45 cait i can't really check right now 16:46 lovetruth well it's not, at my pc 16:46 lovetruth it should be ?... 16:46 cait did you set up the sites.conf? after the koha-create if that went right, you should be able to access your installatio 16:46 cait i amo 16:46 cait sorry 16:46 cait maybe i got the file name a bit wrong, there is a conf file on how the instances should be created 16:46 cait if you are running koha not on 80 only, you might also want to add the other ports to your apache config 16:48 lovetruth library.conf is emtpy 16:48 lovetruth empty* 16:48 cait i amnot sure whatwentwrong 16:48 cait maybe try creating an instance with another name for testing 16:48 cait it should set up everything automatically 16:48 cait packages? 16:48 wahanui packages is probably at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 16:58 lovetruth how can I clean reinstall?? 17:00 cait i guess you can remove the packages and readd them, but i am not sure if that will remove all files of the already created instance 17:00 lovetruth sorry, but quite stupid setup has this koha... for now, at least, then... :) 17:04 cait once you figured it out, it will be very easy next time 17:04 cait i think your problem might be having tried a normal instance first 17:04 cait so you expect to have to do things differently mybe 17:25 pianohacker yo 17:26 cait yo pianohacker 17:26 pianohacker hey cait :) 17:26 cait how are things? 17:27 pianohacker Good! Just working now for the next month before I head back to grad school, so life is much less chaotic 17:27 pianohacker you? 17:27 cait so flood of patches soon? :) 17:27 cait bit stressed as always,lots to do, not nearly enough time in a day :) 17:28 ashimema evening pianohacker 17:29 pianohacker hi ashimema! 17:29 pianohacker cait: besides a patch for bug 11211 (is that the right one?) 17:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11211 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Move calculation code out of C4::Calendar 17:30 pianohacker (yes, it is) I've been more busy with support work 17:30 cait pianohacker: i was hoping rancorupdate :) 17:30 cait time is running you know,... tick tick... 3.18 :) 17:31 pianohacker don't worry, that's on the docket 17:34 lovetruth ok, managed to the web installer 17:34 lovetruth but can't login 17:34 lovetruth what can I do?... 17:35 cait there is a command you can run to find out the password 17:35 cait packages? 17:35 wahanui packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 17:35 cait look for password there 17:36 lovetruth yes, it gave me some girbish 17:36 cait this user is only for creating you ar eal user and for running updates 17:36 cait the gibberisch is probably the password 17:36 cait the login name will be 17:36 cait hm library_koha or koha_library 17:36 cait i always confuse those 17:37 cait koha_instancename 17:37 lovetruth i've chosen differently. my instance name is koha 17:37 cait hm guess it's koha_koha then 17:37 lovetruth but koha_koha with the gibberisch didn't work 17:38 cait did you check the xml file directly? 17:39 lovetruth yes 17:39 lovetruth where it should be? 17:40 cait /etc/koha/sites/instancename/koha-conf.xml 17:40 cait you are looking for the db_user 17:40 lovetruth looked and found some koha_koha 17:41 lovetruth it's <user>koha_koha</user> 17:41 lovetruth and <pass> under 17:41 cait and the passwort gibberish? 17:41 lovetruth yes 17:41 lovetruth but doesn't work 17:41 cait hm that shuld work then 17:41 lovetruth what can I do?... 17:42 cait check if there is more than one koha_koha appearing 17:42 lovetruth only one 17:42 cait hm that should work then 17:42 lovetruth actually there is <database>koha_koha 17:42 lovetruth and <user>koha_koha 17:42 lovetruth but only one user 17:43 lovetruth how can I fix it? 17:44 cait i think the xml file looks correct 17:44 cait i am not sure what went wrong 17:44 cait could it be you are actually seeing the web installer for an ealrier created instance? 17:45 cait is there another instance maybe? 17:45 lovetruth i don't think so 17:45 lovetruth removed everything and reinstalled 17:45 lovetruth and it didn't work 17:45 lovetruth but after installing this, it worked 17:45 lovetruth how can I check? 17:45 cait i think there woudl be another directory 17:45 cait with a xml file then 17:47 lovetruth I'll catfish it 17:47 lovetruth search in all pc 17:47 tcohen hi 17:55 cait hi tcohen 17:55 cait tcohen: do you knwo any reason the database password for an instance wouldn't work? 17:56 lovetruth you were right, cait :) 17:57 cait oh? 17:57 lovetruth had a previous koha-conf.xml file :) 17:57 lovetruth worked with that :) 17:57 lovetruth I assume I can delete the other conf xml file? 17:59 cait i'd keep it for now 17:59 cait being a bit careful with deleting :) 17:59 jcamins lovetruth: you should be looking at the file in /etc/koha/sites/koha/ . If that is not the case, that's bad. 17:59 jcamins I wouldn't delete anything, however. 18:01 lovetruth jcamins, that is the point 18:01 lovetruth the password from there didn't work 18:01 lovetruth but the one from /etc/koha 18:01 lovetruth and on /etc/koha was the previous install 18:01 lovetruth which didn't work... and reinstalled it 18:02 jcamins lovetruth: in that case, you're not using the installation the packages did, and I would anticipate everything being broken. 18:02 lovetruth and now works with this new installation, but... strangely... it uses that conf.xml file 18:02 cait i think maybe by installing the packaging dependencies 18:02 jcamins Probably in somewhat subtle ways. 18:02 lovetruth jcamins, I installed using some http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL.ubuntu;hb=HEAD 18:02 cait you fixed your problem with the non pakace install 18:02 lovetruth and used cpan and cpanm to install it 18:03 lovetruth fixed all dependencies 18:03 jcamins lovetruth: oh, I thought you were switching to using a package install. 18:03 cait jcamins: he was... 18:03 lovetruth but gave some error on some code on DBI.pm 18:03 lovetruth so I decided to remove everything 18:03 lovetruth and install using apt-get and so on 18:03 jcamins As long as you're aware that you don't have a package installation, you're good. 18:03 jcamins cait: ah, so, not good at all. 18:04 * jcamins shares some fruit salad. 18:04 lovetruth so installed koha-common and koha stuff there in synaptic 18:04 cait heh thx 18:04 cait i tihnk you are looking at the wrong urls for the package install now 18:04 lovetruth and used some ubuntu 12 precise tutorial for koha install using apt-get 18:04 cait what url are you looking at for the web installer? 18:05 lovetruth standard koha:8080 18:05 jcamins You used a tutorial other than the one at: 18:05 jcamins packages? 18:05 wahanui i think packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 18:05 cait lovetruth: yeah, that looks not like a package url if you didn't change the standard settings i think 18:06 lovetruth well, it was some other site, but it contained kinda same thing 18:06 lovetruth I chose the standard settings 18:06 jcamins Yikes. I hope this isn't a production install. 18:06 cait what does your /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf look like? 18:07 lovetruth well, it's http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL.ubuntu;hb=HEAD 18:07 lovetruth cait, what do you mean? 18:07 cait did you change the file and what does it look like? 18:07 cait it's the file that has the necessary settings for creating an install and what the urls should look like 18:07 lovetruth I didn't manually change anything in it 18:08 lovetruth -rw-r----- 1 root www-data 6411 Jul 21 20:25 koha-conf.xml 18:10 cait if you look at the file 18:10 cait you see it's used to tell koha what urls will be used for opac and staff 18:10 cait the default will not work well on localhost i think 18:10 cait http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=debian/templates/koha-sites.conf;h=c14cb3d5de476f9fb8437db9d94da3dbec1ec859;hb=54efd3d17955bfd3a9623d7e7f7ac426786896f8 18:11 lovetruth ah, modified the koha-sites.conf 18:11 lovetruth I did modified that :) 18:11 lovetruth modify* :) 18:11 lovetruth thanks 18:11 cait the ones with intra should tell you how to access your instance 18:11 lovetruth does it have Romanian?... 18:12 lovetruth can I add language?... 18:14 lovetruth Koha version: 3.16.01.000 18:14 cait translations? 18:14 wahanui hmmm... translations is http://translate.koha-community.org/ 18:14 cait you can look up there how much of a language for a version is translated 18:15 lovetruth Readonly::XS Not Installed 18:15 lovetruth should I manually install it? 18:15 lovetruth using what, cpan? 18:16 cait which OS are you installing on? 18:16 lovetruth xubuntu 12.04 18:16 lovetruth x64 18:19 cait hm 18:20 cait normally you don't need to cpan things, it shoudl be there from installing the packages 18:20 cait but not sure about xubuntu 18:21 lovetruth xubuntu is ubuntu with sort of xfce interface 18:22 tcohen cait: should we add to the dev meeting that we are moving to dancer? 18:23 cait oh i thought we were moving to python 18:23 tcohen http://www.perldancer.org/ 18:23 tcohen every1 agreed actually: http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2014-07-18#i_1538097 18:28 * wajasu i experimented in writing koha in golang. would think that is a feasable option someday. 18:35 pianohacker tcohen: I'm working on dealing with a massive JS chunk that is slowing page loads in Rancor 18:35 pianohacker tcohen: and https://metacpan.org/release/CGI-Compress-Gzip is the easiest way I've found to deal with it. The downside is it has no package. Is that a problem? 18:35 tcohen you should contact eythian 18:37 cait hm maybe also oleonard could have an idea? 18:37 tcohen pianohacker: isn't that gracefuly handled by Apache? 18:37 cait compress and gzip. thought i had heard that before 18:38 pianohacker tcohen: this is dynamically generated JS (framework dump) so I don't think it does so atm 18:38 pianohacker maybe the config could be changed for it to do so 18:39 tcohen it seems to me that the headers might be wrongly sent 18:39 tcohen have you checked on browser debuggers 18:39 tcohen if it is already compressed? 18:40 tcohen on the other hand, contact eythian for adding new packages to the repo 18:40 pianohacker kk will do 18:40 * tcohen is checking the package builds in precise 18:41 jcamins Let's rewrite Koha in JAVA! 18:41 cait lol 18:41 cait you are late! 18:41 jcamins And by "'s" I mean "you guys." 18:42 * tcohen likes troll-mode jcamins 18:46 jcamins Dyrcona told me how to get into it. Meta-control-t. 18:46 jcamins tcohen++ 18:48 Dyrcona I thought it was <Escape> : troll-mode ? ;) 18:50 tcohen Dyrcona: Ctrl-k t in Sublime 18:51 Dyrcona Meta-X now-i-have-carpal-tunnel-syndrome 18:54 tcohen heh 19:03 bgkriegel Hi all 19:04 bgkriegel cait: no problem for me with poedit and de-DE 3.16/4/2 files, all 100% translated 19:04 cait bgkriegel: yeah it's totally weird :( 19:04 cait bgkriegel: thx for checking! I requested an update of my poedit version (can't install on my windows work computer myself) 19:04 cait will see if that fixes it 19:05 bgkriegel just downloaded and open all of them 19:05 cait yeah did the same, it was really weird, consistently on all files and all versions (3.12, 3.14, 3.16) 19:05 cait always one untranslated line 19:05 bgkriegel mmm... 19:06 cait i will see tomorrow with a newer poedit version 19:08 phasefx2 hey folks, I have a debian squeeze system that was running 3.12.. I added deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main and got it up to 3.13, and I thought that running koha-upgrade-schema would get it to 3.16, but that command isn't doing anything. Am I missing something? I could purge it all and reinstall; there's no critical data there 19:08 tcohen you mean 3.14? 19:09 phasefx2 the installed package is 3.16.01 19:09 phasefx2 koha-common 19:09 wahanui koha-common is probably the one you want, the main koha one needs a bit more work (its for setting up a single instance) 19:09 phasefx2 so I think my pain is going from stock debian to community repo 19:10 tcohen could you do apt-cache policy koha-common and paste the output? 19:10 phasefx2 so that's probably it, koha-upgrade-schema is expecting a multi-instance layout? 19:11 phasefx2 koha-common: Installed: 3.16.01 Candidate: 3.16.01 Version table: *** 3.16.01 0 500 http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/ squeeze/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 19:12 phasefx2 about.pl is telling me 3.13.00.008 19:13 phasefx2 hrmm.. this was also a git-based install at one point.. oy 19:15 pastebot "bgkriegel" at 200.16.31.6 pasted "cait: output from pofilter searching for untranslated strings (3.16/14/12)" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/109 19:15 bgkriegel cait: running files using pofilter, no one untranslated 19:15 * phasefx2 is just going to purge and reinstall.. thanks folks :) 19:17 tcohen hey, while Carrie is around, now "Cristina" apeeared 19:20 * wajasu doing a 3.16.1 install now 19:23 tcohen pianohacker: it seems to build smoothly 19:24 pianohacker woot thanks tcohen 19:24 tcohen bye #koha 19:28 cait @later tell bgkriegel - thx for double checking! i guess it' sreally something with my poedit version 19:28 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 19:28 cait bgkriegel++ 19:28 cait tcohen++ 19:29 cait @later tell tcohen we want to use the RESTful API for ILL, but it's not in production yet, I think we can adapt - cleaner APIs are good 19:29 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 19:46 rangi morning 19:48 pianohacker hi rangi 19:48 cait morning rangi 20:28 kathryn hi cait :) 20:28 cait hi kathryn :) 20:39 rhcl Well, I thought it was funny. 21:17 pianohacker rhcl: ? 21:52 eythian hi 21:52 cait hi eythian :) 21:55 jburds_ Does anyone use Google Analytics to track searching on their OPAC? 21:55 cait one could 21:55 rangi piwik works better 21:55 jburds_ Trying to figure out the best way to show usage 21:56 rangi and respects privacy a lot more 21:56 cait jburds_: here it would be a big privacy problem 21:56 rangi http://piwik.org/ 22:01 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11347 - PROG/CCSR deprecation: Remove opacsmallimage system-preference <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9a77c4a38c106373a37e6cca9a50b5350819c1f1> / Bug 12519 - Convert OPAC list download pop-up to modal dialog <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e185aaf19b1efeee342fc32a35323a0a9ea03a58> 22:30 eythian @later tell pianohacker https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=755541 22:30 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded. 22:30 eythian oh, you're actually here. 22:30 eythian pianohacker: ^^ 22:30 pianohacker hi eythian 22:30 eythian subscribe to that and you'll get dibs when it comes out. 22:30 eythian I won't put it into the Koha repo until it's acctually needed, that place is messy enough as is. 22:30 pianohacker eythian++ 22:30 pianohacker you rock man 22:31 pianohacker I think at this point I owe you not a pint but a growler :P 22:31 rangi hoping to get the others that arent in, before the next stable release anyway .. hopefully so we can clean up the koha repo 22:31 * eythian needs to overhaul the package building process for dependencies 22:32 eythian yeah, quite a few are in there, but I need to identify all those that aren't. 22:32 rangi *nod* 22:32 rangi be cool if we could do something like the entropy tracker 22:32 rangi http://pet.debian.net/pkg-perl/pet.cgi 22:32 rangi but just for the ones we care about 22:33 eythian https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=robin@catalyst.net.nz <-- not quite the same thing, but... :) 22:33 rangi yep 22:33 rangi https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=chrisc%40catalyst.net.nz 22:33 rangi combine those 2 and we get most of them 22:34 rangi oh you can 22:35 eythian I should do some updates on some of my ones that have new upstreams 22:35 rangi https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=chrisc%40catalyst.net.nz+robin%40catalyst.net.nz&comaint=yes 22:36 rangi hmm or maybe not 22:36 rangi https://qa.debian.org/developer.php 22:36 rangi it says you can 23:44 dcook Ooo, excited about the DataTables Colvis stuff... 23:44 * dcook actually hasn't looked but really wants to be able to hide columns easily...