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dcook |
I think my friends are a bit crazy for getting me one, but I've been thinking about buying a tablet for a while if only to catch up on email on transit.. |
| 00:00 |
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dcook |
Also better for webcomic reading :D |
| 00:01 |
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eythian |
they're great for that |
| 00:02 |
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dcook |
Man trying to identify to Nickserv only using your thumbs is not fun.. |
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dac |
Developer meeting tomorrow morning, yeah? |
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dcook |
Perfect |
| 00:16 |
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eythian |
dcook: yeah, you might be able to tell the IRC client to auto log you in to nickserv |
| 00:17 |
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dcook |
Yeah, I figured it out eventually. Looks like the app might've changed a bit since I used it last. |
| 00:17 |
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dcook |
Or I just haven't used it in so long that I forget how to do it :p |
| 00:18 |
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dcook |
All good now though :D |
| 00:18 |
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dcook |
Alarm in the phone, so one way or another I should be there tomorrow morning |
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dcook |
This is kind of cool: http://mapofcpan.org/#/ |
| 00:57 |
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dcook |
http://mapofcpan.org/#/distro/Moose/deps |
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dcook |
Couldn't get this one to work as it kept timing out: http://mapofcpan.org/#/distro/Moose/rdeps |
| 00:59 |
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eythian |
dcook: one of the folks here made that. |
| 00:59 |
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eythian |
the moose rdeps one works for me |
| 01:00 |
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dcook |
Hmm weird |
| 01:00 |
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dcook |
Cool that Grant is one of you folks |
| 01:03 |
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eythian |
I should find some lunch |
| 01:03 |
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eythian |
but I don't know what I want. |
| 01:04 |
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eythian |
Maybe a quesidea. |
| 01:04 |
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dcook |
Yeah, I forgot my lunch at home. Sick though so don't feel like finding it. |
| 01:04 |
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* dcook |
needs a lunch henchman |
| 01:05 |
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eythian |
http://www.wherethefuckshouldigotoeat.com/ <-- this is useful for that |
| 01:05 |
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eythian |
ooh |
| 01:06 |
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eythian |
I might have Vietnamise. |
| 01:06 |
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eythian |
only, spelt right. |
| 01:06 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 01:07 |
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dcook |
lol |
| 01:07 |
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dcook |
Alas, too much walking |
| 01:07 |
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dcook |
Badde Manors is pretty tasty though |
| 01:13 |
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eythian |
I have Vietnamese chicken curry now |
| 01:14 |
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dcook |
Mmm |
| 01:14 |
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dcook |
I think I might have to run out and get some laksa soon |
| 02:10 |
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eythian |
wahanui: are you a bot? |
| 02:10 |
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wahanui |
eythian: no idea |
| 02:11 |
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eythian |
wahanui: bots is <reply>http://youtu.be/B1BdQcJ2ZYY |
| 02:11 |
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wahanui |
OK, eythian. |
| 03:14 |
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dcook |
http://zoom.z3950.org/api/zoom-current.html#3.3 |
| 03:14 |
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dcook |
Yeah, really helpful, guys... |
| 03:14 |
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dcook |
Because no one would ever want to analyze the query that they've transformed before sending it to the server... |
| 03:15 |
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dcook |
Err, http://zoom.z3950.org/api/zoom-current.html#3.3.1 more specifically... |
| 03:17 |
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dcook |
For anyone who is a bit masochistic and wants to see how Net::Z3950::ZOOM calls the ZOOM-C API... http://git.indexdata.com/?p=ZOOM-Perl.git;a=tree |
| 03:18 |
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eythian |
nooooooope. |
| 03:19 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 03:19 |
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dcook |
It's not too interesting |
| 03:21 |
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dcook |
Indexdata Git is http://git.indexdata.com/ |
| 03:21 |
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dcook |
indexdata git? |
| 03:21 |
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wahanui |
indexdata git is, like, http://git.indexdata.com/ |
| 03:29 |
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dcook |
On the plus side, I have a better idea of what C looks like now.. |
| 03:39 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11357 - biblioitems.size value not correctly displayed in list emails sent from... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]19e1453a7e6ec8aaa> |
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rangi |
aleisha: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12386 |
| 04:06 |
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huginn |
Bug 12386: trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , 'Days in advance' pull down in bootstrap OPAC is huge |
| 04:08 |
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rangi |
also http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12429 |
| 04:08 |
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huginn |
Bug 12429: normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , patron seeing fines codes |
| 04:10 |
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rangi |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12494 too |
| 04:10 |
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huginn |
Bug 12494: normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Remove yuipath system preference |
| 04:43 |
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dcook |
Is it just me or is QueryParser royally borked in the intranet? |
| 04:43 |
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dcook |
I thought I had it working recently... |
| 04:44 |
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dcook |
Borked for the "Search the catalog" at the top. Not the advanced search. |
| 04:50 |
|
aleisha |
rangi: managed to sign off on 12386 (once I worked out how to test it) so I'll do 12429 now! |
| 04:50 |
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rangi |
sweet! |
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| 05:00 |
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eythian |
hi cait |
| 05:00 |
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eythian |
go etc. |
| 05:02 |
|
cait |
morning |
| 05:03 |
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cait |
wish etc. |
| 05:03 |
|
eythian |
heh |
| 05:13 |
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rangi |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggGLFCi1R64 |
| 05:22 |
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rangi |
cait: how do you add baskets to a basketgroup? |
| 05:22 |
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cait |
there are different ways |
| 05:22 |
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cait |
one thing you can do is check the little check box in the yellow alert htat appeart when closing a basket |
| 05:22 |
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cait |
that will create a basket group with the name ofyour basket automatically and shuld take you there |
| 05:23 |
|
rangi |
cool |
| 05:23 |
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cait |
anothe option is going to he vendor of your basket |
| 05:23 |
|
cait |
and then new basket group - and drag and drop the closed baskets into it |
| 05:24 |
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aleisha |
cait: how do you close a basket? |
| 05:25 |
|
cait |
there is a button on top of he basket |
| 05:25 |
|
cait |
but beware |
| 05:25 |
|
cait |
it will only appear when you don't have uncertain prices |
| 05:26 |
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cait |
you will have to dealwith those first in case and then you can close it |
| 05:27 |
|
cait |
so basically you create you choose a vendor... create a basket... order something and don't check the uncertain checkbox |
| 05:27 |
|
cait |
and then it should have close basket in the top toolbar |
| 05:28 |
|
cait |
hope what I said is understandable :) i am still waking up :) |
| 05:30 |
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eythian |
http://www.theonion.com/video/[…]d-once-aga,14181/ |
| 05:33 |
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cait |
lol |
| 05:36 |
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aleisha |
thanks cait that helps heaps but i'm not able to change the quantity when im adding an order to the basket? |
| 05:36 |
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cait |
oh yes |
| 05:36 |
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cait |
you have to click the little add item button a bit above |
| 05:36 |
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cait |
then the counter will go up as the item is added |
| 05:36 |
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cait |
... every of our libraries asks that at least once |
| 05:36 |
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aleisha |
ohhh i see thank you! |
| 05:37 |
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cait |
but i have no idea how to improve it :( |
| 05:38 |
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dcook |
I so do not get bitwise string operators... |
| 05:38 |
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dcook |
Oh wait...maybe I'm just missing the last step.. |
| 05:40 |
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aleisha |
well I can sign off on that patch now so thanks for your help! |
| 05:40 |
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cait |
:) |
| 05:40 |
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cait |
thx for your help! |
| 05:40 |
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cait |
aleisha++ |
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| 05:42 |
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dcook |
Oh...I think I might actually understand now.. |
| 05:47 |
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cait |
dcook: hm? |
| 05:48 |
|
dcook |
Koha's Auth.pm relies upon the following logic to set the base permissions for users: "( $flags & ( 2**$bit ) )" |
| 05:48 |
|
dcook |
2**$bit will calculate 2 raised to the power of $bit |
| 05:49 |
|
dcook |
The bitwise operand & does a bitwise 'AND' operation |
| 05:49 |
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eythian |
it's not a string there, it's a number |
| 05:49 |
|
dcook |
Hmm? |
| 05:50 |
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dcook |
The quotation marks are just to denote the code bit |
| 05:50 |
|
dcook |
code * |
| 05:50 |
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dcook |
So & does the operation on the numbers in binary |
| 05:50 |
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eythian |
<dcook> I so do not get bitwise string operators... |
| 05:50 |
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eythian |
they're number operators |
| 05:50 |
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dcook |
http://perldoc.perl.org/perlop[…]-String-Operators |
| 05:51 |
|
dcook |
Ahh, I think I see what you're saying |
| 05:51 |
|
dcook |
"If an operand is a number, that will imply a numeric bitwise operation" |
| 05:51 |
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eythian |
yeah :) |
| 05:51 |
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dcook |
:) |
| 05:51 |
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dcook |
So this helped visualize it for me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B[…]ise_operation#AND |
| 05:52 |
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eythian |
though, I didn't actually know about the string versions of the operators. That seems to be too much like magic for my tastes. |
| 05:52 |
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eythian |
Probably useful in some obscure cases. |
| 05:52 |
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dcook |
Gotta love their helpful examples, eh? |
| 05:53 |
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eythian |
I guess so long as you think of them as bitstrings rather than strings, it's clearer. |
| 06:05 |
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dcook |
The numbers are pretty neat... |
| 06:11 |
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dcook |
So 131124 & 32 in binary would be : 100000000000110100 AND 100000. Since the longer number gets truncated down to the same length it would end up being 110100 AND 100000, and since only "1" matches...you get 100000 which is 32 |
| 06:11 |
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dcook |
Wild. |
| 06:12 |
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eythian |
well for an &, it's not necessary to say that anything is truncated. |
| 06:13 |
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eythian |
100 == 00100 == 0000000000100 |
| 06:13 |
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dcook |
Hmm, I guess not |
| 06:13 |
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dcook |
Yeah |
| 06:13 |
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dcook |
Totes |
| 06:15 |
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* dcook |
claps |
| 06:15 |
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dcook |
binary fun |
| 06:18 |
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dcook |
eythian && others: http://existentialcomics.com/comic/35 |
| 06:19 |
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cait |
@seen khall |
| 06:19 |
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huginn |
cait: khall was last seen in #koha 3 days, 13 hours, 13 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <khall> I've never seen those codes. odd |
| 06:20 |
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eythian |
dcook: heh |
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reiveune |
hello |
| 07:05 |
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dcook |
Ah, QueryParser was just borked when there were nulls in the defaultSortOrder and defaultSortField preferences...which should never be empty anyway... |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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| 07:28 |
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dcook |
Huh...I think I have some ideas about how to improve the QueryParser... |
| 07:28 |
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dcook |
To the point where I might not even need to fix our broken homegrown stuff... |
| 07:29 |
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dcook |
Still not a great solution though.. |
| 07:29 |
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* dcook |
will have to play tomorrow |
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dcook |
hi French folks! |
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* dcook |
heads off for the night |
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cait |
Joubu around? |
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Joubu |
cait: yep |
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nlegrand |
Hey #koha! |
| 07:56 |
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cait |
i am on sandbox 7 |
| 07:56 |
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cait |
and the ajax circ hangs :( |
| 07:57 |
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cait |
not sure if it's the sandbox, as it seems very slow right now |
| 07:58 |
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cait |
hm yep, looks like the sanbox hangs |
| 08:01 |
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Joubu |
cait: I don't see the patches on the sandbox 7 |
| 08:03 |
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cait |
hm weird |
| 08:03 |
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cait |
my problem is, the whole installations seems to hang |
| 08:03 |
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cait |
i can't get to any page right now |
| 08:07 |
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cait |
Joubu++ |
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Racoo |
Hi, I have biblio and holding duplication problem. How can I solve the problem with the duplication, plase help. |
| 09:46 |
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cait |
IE-- |
| 10:01 |
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Joubu |
IE-- |
| 10:13 |
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cait |
Joubu: it's really terrible :( |
| 10:14 |
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cait |
I see totally unreliable behaviour |
| 10:14 |
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cait |
it's totally confusing and most of the time the display is just wrong |
| 10:15 |
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sophie_m |
cait : opac or admin ? |
| 10:15 |
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cait |
admin - but circ doesn't work at all with the new patches |
| 10:16 |
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cait |
i am torn here, i kow we don't officially support it, but I think totally breaking THE main feature of an ils... |
| 10:16 |
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cait |
is kind of a big deal |
| 10:16 |
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cait |
sophie_m: it's about bug 11703 |
| 10:16 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable |
| 10:19 |
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cait |
gmcharlt: ping |
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cait |
hm might be too early and still travelling - bbiab |
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bgkriegel |
@wunder cordoba, argentina |
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huginn |
bgkriegel: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 7.5°C (8:05 AM ART on July 01, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
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Racoo |
Hi, I have biblio and holding duplication problem. How can I solve the problem with the duplication, plase help. |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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cait |
hi oleonard |
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tcohen |
morning #koha |
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oleonard |
Hi tcohen |
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tcohen |
hi oleonard |
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oleonard |
I wonder how libraries use hold notes which have been left by the patron |
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cait |
not sure really |
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cait |
but i think some might use them only internally if the user can't see them right now... so not sure what might be in there |
| 14:08 |
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oleonard |
I never really tested them before, but yeah: notes can be left by patron or staff but are only seen by staff |
| 14:08 |
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oleonard |
It might be problematic to suddenly show them to the patron (Bug 12358) |
| 14:08 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12358 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , patrons can't see hold notes in the opac |
| 14:09 |
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cait |
oleonard: yeah my thoughts too :( |
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cait |
i had seen the bug earlier |
| 14:09 |
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cait |
maybe it shoudl be an internal and a patron note... but lots more work |
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jcamins |
oleonard: what, you don't want patrons to see things like "patron very obnoxious, avoid engaging at all costs"? |
| 14:10 |
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cait |
lol |
| 14:10 |
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cait |
not sure that woudl go into a hold note |
| 14:11 |
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oleonard |
jcamins: That's why librarians here have to add to internal notes, "Please don't read this aloud to the patron" |
| 14:11 |
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cait |
lol |
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jcamins |
lol |
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oleonard |
I think if a bug has multiple patches then each patch should have a separate test plan. If one can't test the patches separately then they should be squashed. |
| 14:23 |
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cait |
i think the problem is when the first patches already have sign offs |
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Joubu |
oleonard: not sure |
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cait |
also for the tester easier to see what changed to the previous version he/she tested |
| 14:24 |
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Joubu |
oleonard: when I develop a feature, I split into small patches for readability |
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jcamins |
oleonard: as an RM, I preferred multiple patches. |
| 14:24 |
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cait |
i think ther are probably reasons for both approaches |
| 14:25 |
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oleonard |
Okay, I'm glad to hear the counter-argument. From my perspective as a tester multiple patches don't make things easier. |
| 14:25 |
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cait |
i think if you start fresh on a patch, that is probably true |
| 14:26 |
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jcamins |
For a system like Koha, where all the code is spread across many files, multiple patches made it easier to see what was going on with change 1 and change 2. |
| 14:26 |
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cait |
btw... someone should test a really nice patch from a library! |
| 14:27 |
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cait |
bug 11577 |
| 14:27 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11577 new feature, P5 - low, ---, h.meissner.82, Needs Signoff , [ENH] Automatic renewal feature |
| 14:27 |
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jcamins |
Even if change 1 is useless without change 2. |
| 14:27 |
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cait |
no worries... i will not say that all the time now :) i just felt like it because i amgoing through my inbox here |
| 14:32 |
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cait |
and it's a cool feature ... :) |
| 14:33 |
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cait |
jcamins: how hard do you think would it be to use part of the analytics feature (showing an item on another record) but make it use a db table for storing the linking instead of something in the MARC record? |
| 14:33 |
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cait |
I am thinking about a table that has the itemnumber and the biblionumber of the record it should appear on |
| 14:33 |
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cait |
to be used for bound withs |
| 14:34 |
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jcamins |
cait: it would be a bit of a nuisance. |
| 14:34 |
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jcamins |
Well... a ton of a nuisance. |
| 14:34 |
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jcamins |
But I think it's a good idea. |
| 14:35 |
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cait |
define nuisanceß |
| 14:35 |
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cait |
? |
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jcamins |
cait: oh god, oh god, where's the schnapps? |
| 14:36 |
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jcamins |
It would be a lot of work, because basically you'd have to add an additional layer in between item and bib. |
| 14:36 |
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cait |
so hard eh? |
| 14:36 |
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jcamins |
Yeah. |
| 14:36 |
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cait |
i was wondering if one coudl modify the bit that cheks for the marc field to show the item |
| 14:37 |
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cait |
to just... also look in my shiny table |
| 14:37 |
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cait |
but i gues... that was too optimistic |
| 14:37 |
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cait |
way too optimistic |
| 14:37 |
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jcamins |
You mean the EasyAnalytics? |
| 14:37 |
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cait |
yeah |
| 14:37 |
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jcamins |
That was never much more than a band-aid. |
| 14:37 |
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cait |
well... |
| 14:37 |
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jcamins |
A much-needed band-aid, but a band-aid. |
| 14:38 |
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cait |
I think for analytics it makes kind of sense to (mis)use the 773 |
| 14:38 |
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cait |
but bound withs are really item specific |
| 14:38 |
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jcamins |
Oh, 773 is definitely the correct field. |
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cait |
so it shouldn't be in the record |
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jcamins |
It's just the rest of the functionality that was a workaround. |
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cait |
because you can have 1 item that is bound in with another and still have real items for both records where that has not been done |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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cait |
so i think even if easyanalytics worked in combination with usecontrolnumber, which it doesn't... and we wouldn#t overwrite the records .... it wouldn't work |
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jcamins |
Right. |
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jcamins |
We are agreed in that. |
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jcamins |
But I don't think you could just modify EasyAnalytics to handle bound-withs without a lot of work. :( |
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cait |
ok |
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cait |
so start from scratch it would be |
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cait |
... *sigh* |
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cait |
hm i typoed unusable |
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Joubu |
oleonard: do you plan to submit a patch to remove prog and ccsr themes? |
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jcamins |
cait: as long as you didn't spell it "usable." |
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oleonard |
I am certainly willing to Joubu. I was waiting to hear the discussion at the meeting tomorrow. |
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cait |
unusuable < not much better |
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Joubu |
oleonard: I completely agree with bug 12494, but I cannot pass qa on it without a patch for the dependent bug. It will break ccsr and prog. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12494 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Remove yuipath system preference |
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oleonard |
Joubu: Of course. |
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oleonard |
I'm confused about why we have one bug to deprecate prog/ccsr and one to remove them. |
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oleonard |
anyone? :) |
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cait |
no idea |
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cait |
i think deprecate is done :) |
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cait |
we added to the coding guidelines |
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oleonard |
tcohen: Do you have an opinion? |
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Joubu |
oleonard: yep, not sure to understand. If we remove prog and ccsr theme, there are deprecated... |
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tcohen |
oleonard: deprecating it involves several other tasks |
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tcohen |
it is an omnibus bug |
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tcohen |
don't worry, we will close them all :-D |
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cait |
wb tcohen :) |
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tcohen |
hi |
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oleonard |
tcohen: When is a bug dependent on the deprecate process and when is a bug dependent on the remove process? |
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tcohen |
oleonard: first, I marked one of them as duplicate and it was reverted (so I had the same concern you have) |
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tcohen |
as long as we have all involved tasks covered, I agree with either |
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reiveune |
bye |
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cait |
khall++ :) |
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bag |
good morning |
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jburds_ |
Greetings! |
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wahanui |
and beatings! |
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oleonard |
wahanui: ? |
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wahanui |
wish i knew, oleonard |
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oleonard |
Hi bag |
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jburds_ |
Can someone tell me their average time to check in a book from a barcode scan until they can scan the next barcode? We are averaging from 2 to 3 seconds normally. |
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bag |
currently somewhere in that range is pretty average for koha |
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jburds_ |
Thanks, we are pretty new to the system and trying to speed it up as much as possible |
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bag |
jburds_: there is development working on getting the staff side ready for plack (we are actually working on bringing a live site up on that within the next week or so) |
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jburds_ |
Nice |
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bag |
also this will help with patrons that have a large number of previous checkouts, fines, holds etc. http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11703 |
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huginn |
Bug 11703: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable |
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cait |
khall++ |
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cait |
so quiet |
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rhcl |
really |
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cait |
@quote get random |
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huginn |
cait: Error: 'random' is not a valid id. |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, huginn. |
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rhcl |
@wunder 64507 |
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huginn |
rhcl: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 29.8°C (4:07 PM CDT on July 01, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1012 hPa (Falling). |
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cait |
@quote random |
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huginn |
cait: Quote #79: "<robin> drivers make windows crash, therefore windows makes drivers crash." (added by gmcharlt at 01:53 AM, June 24, 2010) |
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WNickC |
anyone have a hint at what to poke if zebra rebuild doesn't throw error but no records are returned in search? |
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cait |
did you start your zebra server? |
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cait |
did you activate opacsuppression but have not one suppressed record? |
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WNickC |
hmm...start zebra server..no, I don't think I did that |
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cait |
it depends on how you installed koha if it's needed |
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cait |
but it can be a reason if it's not running for search not giving results |
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WNickC |
it's a git clone, but didn't seem to fix it |
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cait |
so did you turn on opacsuppression? |
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WNickC |
nope. it is off |
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rangi |
permissions |
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wahanui |
i heard permissions was most likely the problem |
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rangi |
the user you rebuilt as, has to be the same user you run the zebrasrv as |
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rangi |
(and neither of them should be root) |
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WNickC |
yes, avoid root |
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WNickC |
I have learned that one |
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WNickC |
but still no dice, I think I have made other errors though |
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WNickC |
it's a VM, and it's just for testing and playing, isn't be the first and won't be last time I break it |
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cait |
it happens |
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cait |
you tried a rebuild? with -v -v? |
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WNickC |
with -v, just tried -v -v, over my head |
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cait |
you can paste it |
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cait |
maybe thereis something to spot |
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cait |
paste? |
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wahanui |
paste is, like, found at http://paste.koha-community.org |
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tcohen |
@later tell cait https://help.ubuntu.com/commun[…]seKey#Compose_key |
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huginn |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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cait |
i am here |
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cait |
hm? |
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pastebot |
"WNickC" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Zebra return" (506 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/72 |
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cait |
thx :) |
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cait |
looks like only 4 records were indexed |
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cait |
shoul dit be more or is that ok? |
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WNickC |
nope, just 4 |
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WNickC |
not loading more until it works :) |
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cait |
hm not sure sorry |
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cait |
which command did you runẞ |
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WNickC |
rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r -v |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
and you are sure zebrasrv is running? |
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tcohen |
zebrasrv -f /home/nick/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml |
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WNickC |
I am sure of very little :) |
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WNickC |
ah |
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WNickC |
now errors I can understand |
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WNickC |
thanks tcohen |
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tcohen |
np |
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tcohen |
WNickC: you're on a testing environment, right? |
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WNickC |
Yes, learning linux and koha all at once |
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tcohen |
going to develop? |
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WNickC |
yes?, that is the hope |
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tcohen |
awesome |
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tcohen |
good luck |
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eythian |
hi |
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WNickC |
thanks, I think I'll need it |
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tcohen |
hi eythian |
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tcohen |
so, Argentina-Belgium |
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tcohen |
does anyone know this? |
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wahanui |
rumour has it this is the dawning of the age of Aquarius |
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tcohen |
http://editorconfig.org/ |
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tcohen |
we should add that to our source tree |
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eythian |
tcohen: that's probably a good idea. |
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rangi |
tcohen: can't hurt |
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dcook |
Hmm sounds cool, tcohen |
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dcook |
Also Argentina-Belgium :p |
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* dcook |
really needs to watch a game at some point... |
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* dcook |
is taking a look at eythian's ES query builder |
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eythian |
oh good |
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dcook |
Mmm, I was wondering what you were doing with stemming and truncation |
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dcook |
Does ES stem on its own? |
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dcook |
I've been pondering a bit basic search versus advanced search... |
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dcook |
Off the top of my head, advanced search queries should be pretty easy to create if folks just plunk text into the advanced search form fields |
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dcook |
I suppose it's not basic search...but free form... |
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dcook |
versus structured |
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eythian |
dcook: it can, I haven't dealt with it yet though |
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dcook |
eythian: And the right-truncate is for that one advanced search index, yeah? |
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dcook |
Which I can't find now.. |
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eythian |
dcook: I don't know what you mean. |
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dcook |
In "_convert_index_fields", you change rtrn to 'right-truncate', but that appears to never show up |
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dcook |
Although I thoguht there was one instance where it did in the advanced search.. |
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eythian |
dcook: that's used by _modify_string_by_type |
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eythian |
or do you mean about it getting set? |
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dcook |
Right, but I'm saying it should never make it's way into _modify_string_by_type |
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eythian |
I think I saw it somewhere. |
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dcook |
Me too, but now I can't see it :/ |
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* dcook |
checks between 3.14 and master |
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eythian |
koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/catalogue/advsearch.tt |
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eythian |
144:<option value="ln,rtrn:[% search_languages_loo.iso639_2_code %]" selected="selected">[% search_languages_loo.language_description %]</option> |
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eythian |
146:<option value="ln,rtrn:[% search_languages_loo.iso639_2_code %]">[% search_languages_loo.language_description %]</option> |
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eythian |
language codes use it |
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dcook |
I'm looking at the OPAC. Maybe it's in the in tranet |
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dcook |
Ah yeah, that's the one |
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eythian |
also the opac |
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dcook |
In the limits |
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dcook |
Righto |
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dcook |
And wrdl gets dropped for default...probably makes sense. Cool. |
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* dcook |
has been wondering about the necessity of "rtrn" |
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dcook |
Versus * |
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eythian |
I end up converting it to * |
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dcook |
Yeah, I saw that |
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dcook |
I'm thinking of testing ZOOM to see if it needs rtrn |
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dcook |
Or if it adds truncation when it detects * or ? during ZOOM::Query::CCL2RPN |
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dcook |
I'm guessing it doesn't need rtrn... |
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dcook |
But going to try it out |
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dcook |
Actually, I'm thinking of doing an audit of search...trying to figure out all the places it gets called |
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dcook |
Because I think most of the time it's just a search box where you can stick anything into it |
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dcook |
We might only use the CCL/Zebra indexes in advanced searches |
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dcook |
Mmm facets too I guess |
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eythian |
yeah, there are probably a lot of places where C4::Search is used directly. These will be an issue. |
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dcook |
If we could use something more universal, that might save everyone some hacking |
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eythian |
But, they can be fixed one by one. |
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dcook |
How do you mean? |
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eythian |
Calling C4::Search directly won't work so well with ES |
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dcook |
What do you mean by calling C4::Search directly? |
