IRC log for #koha, 2014-06-30

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00:35 dcook rangi: Are you about?
00:36 rangi just about to duck out for lunch
00:36 dcook Ahh, no worries. I just had a question about GitStats. Not important in the last :)
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02:01 eythian http://2014.osdc.com.au/ <-- dcook, what are you going to submit?
02:28 rangi dcook: 252 now
02:28 rangi a lot more than 120+ anyway
02:29 dcook rangi: Interesting. I looked at master for that value :/
02:29 rangi yep, patch is in passed qa to be pushed
02:30 dcook Well, maybe not more than 120+ :p, but 120 just seems a strange number to base it on, unless it was chosen a long time ago
02:30 rangi thats what the old koha site used to say
02:30 rangi a long time ago
02:31 dcook Mmm
02:31 dcook I imagine that's where the 10,000+ is from as well? I recall seeing the number
02:31 dcook But I remember a fair bit of discussion about how that's impossible to know
02:31 dcook Even though it could well be higher than that
02:41 dcook Oh yeah...I clicked the link, eythian, but didn't look at it
02:41 * dcook checks
02:42 eythian I've got approval to submit a talk to it, so will probably be there.
02:42 eythian oh kathryn, just fyi ...^
02:44 kathryn cool!
02:44 eythian papa has also been told^Wasked to submit something ;)
02:44 kathryn ah, good
02:45 dcook Hmm
02:46 dcook Good excuse to go to Queensland
02:46 eythian yeah, I haven't been over to AU for a couple of years.
02:47 dcook Hmm, no idea what I would talk about though
02:48 eythian you can always just go :)
02:48 * dcook double checks the dates for birthdays and other life events
02:48 * dcook may have gone to Kohacon which overlapped his wife's birthday
02:48 * dcook might still be making up for that
02:49 eythian heh
02:50 dcook It's tempting to do a talk...
02:50 dcook I've been thinking about trying to get to more developer stuff rather than just library stuff
02:51 eythian do, I've done a few talks at OSDC in the past, it's good fun.
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02:58 dcook I'll bring it up with the bossman. It sounds fun.
02:58 dcook Would be good to meet up for beers :)
02:58 eythian sure would.
03:13 dcook Huzzah!
03:13 dcook The Australian National Police say that I'm not a criminal!
03:14 eythian I bet it was a close call for a moment there!
03:14 dcook :p
03:14 dcook The only time I was behind bars was during a tour as a cub scout :p
03:15 dcook Actually...there may have been a few other times as a child
03:15 dcook My dad had a lot of police friends :p
03:15 dcook Bossman also is up for me going to OSDC!
03:15 dcook I shall write somethign up :)
03:16 eythian Awesome :)
03:16 eythian keep an eye on the closing date, it's not very far away.
03:16 dcook July 4th :/
03:16 dcook I'll do it now :)
03:16 eythian yeah
03:16 dcook Whether I speak or not, I'll probably go anyway
03:16 eythian you can edit afterwards.
03:26 dcook Sounds like a plan :)
03:26 dcook Thanks for sharing the link!
03:26 dcook eythian++
03:26 eythian no problem
04:02 eythian wizzyrea: don't forget that dcook is the IE expert around these parts
04:02 dcook Hmm?
04:03 * dcook is "happy" to field IE questions :)
04:03 wizzyrea IE9 - apparently it can't save system preferences?
04:04 dcook Yikes...that doesn't sound good
04:04 wizzyrea 3.14
04:05 dcook Hmmm
04:05 wizzyrea though marc upload mayb erelated to bugs.koha-community.org/bugz​illa3/show_bug.cgi?id=10652
04:05 dcook The folks I have on IE8 haven't had troubles with it yet
04:05 wizzyrea 3.14?
04:05 wahanui somebody said 3.14 was coming out in November, so anything that gets bumped shouldn't be waiting too long.
04:05 dcook Yep
04:05 dcook IE9 is a special kind of hell too though
04:05 wizzyrea it was short lived.
04:05 dcook Which?
04:05 wahanui Which is quite horrible
04:05 dcook Ah, 9
04:05 dcook durr
04:05 dcook Hmm
04:06 dcook What was the description of the problem/
04:06 dcook ?
04:06 wizzyrea saving system preferences hangs with a spinning dealie
04:06 wizzyrea uploading marc files hangs at 0%
04:06 wizzyrea staging marc files I should say
04:07 dcook Yeah, the marc upload won't work without that 10652 patch
04:07 dcook Hmm
04:07 dcook Saving sysprefs works ok in an emulated IE9
04:07 dcook I don't have an IE9 VM (although I should probably get one sometime)
04:08 * dcook ponders
04:08 dcook Trying to think how you could remotely troubleshoot that one
04:08 wizzyrea well I have a laptop here
04:08 wizzyrea but you know I just killed it testing this
04:09 dcook Killed it?
04:09 wizzyrea crashed IE anyway
04:09 dcook Wow..
04:09 wizzyrea it's a windows box. Not really surprising.
04:09 dcook Are you using IE9 or an emulated version of 9?
04:09 dcook I've had it crash when emulating older versions
04:09 dcook Especially when using debugging mode
04:10 dcook If it's hanging, I would look at the ajax call for sure..
04:12 * dcook was just looking at syspref saving a few weeks ago...
04:13 dcook wizzyrea: Actually, if you have your IE in debugging mode, you might be able to catch error messages before you crash
04:15 dcook Looks like jquery.js has a few syntax errors that IE doesn't love but doesn't die on
04:21 dcook wizzyrea: Yep, works fine on emulated IE9. I'd try the F12 dev tools, turn on the debugger for "Unhandled exceptions" (if it isn't already), then try saving a preference.
04:22 dcook You have to have the F12 debugger open on the screen for it to work though
04:22 dcook It's not enough to turn it on and then switch to a different F12 tab
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05:01 eythian hi cait
05:01 eythian go back to bed
05:02 cait wish i could :)
05:33 dcook eythian: proposal sent :)
05:33 eythian awesome :)
05:33 eythian I should start writing something up today too
05:33 dcook Yep! Don't have long now...
05:33 dcook It looks like I'll go even if they don't accept it :)
05:36 eythian sweet
05:47 eythian dcook: what was your topic in the end?
05:50 dcook Good question, lol
05:50 dcook Basically, "can you be friends with the competition?"
05:50 eythian ah, cool.
05:50 dcook Asks a few questions about a few scenarios (offering/asking for help, competing for clients)
05:50 dcook Not really that happy with my proposal, but I usually dislike anything I write :p
05:51 dcook I guess I focused more on the business side than the community side of things though
05:51 dcook At least in terms of the wording
05:51 eythian That's OK, I've done those talks there before.
05:52 dcook I think it'll focus a bit on benefits/drawbacks, but the conclusion will be sort of "Cultivating an open source community" territory
05:52 * dcook shrugs
05:53 dcook I think it's interesting, haha
05:53 dcook What topics are you thinking about?
05:53 eythian http://paste.koha-community.org/68 <-- here's mine
05:53 eythian I might think of more over the next couple of days
05:54 dcook Sweet. I like it.
05:55 eythian I should post something to the Koha list, might get a few people out of the woodwork.
05:56 dcook Here's mine without the nice formatting of yours ;) http://paste.koha-community.org/69
05:57 dcook Debated the last line a lot
05:57 eythian sounds good
05:57 dcook Hope so
05:57 dcook Good idea sending to the list
05:57 dcook You got one person out of the woodwork so far :p
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06:08 eythian there we go, sent
06:08 eythian papa: got your talk topic worked out yet? :)
06:09 papa nope :)
06:09 eythian Surely it's a short walk from where you are anyway.
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06:09 papa 45 mins to an hour drive
06:09 papa do they have the venue sorted out?
06:10 cait proposals for...? :)
06:10 cait you all got me curious
06:10 eythian "Griffith University Gold Coast campus"
06:10 eythian cait: read your email :)
06:11 eythian http://2014.osdc.com.au/ <-- or this link
06:11 cait eythian: i do, but i don't remember anything about htat
06:11 eythian well, I sent it about 4 minutes ago
06:11 eythian what's taking you so long?
06:11 dcook papa: You live in Oz?
06:12 cait eythian: breakfast
06:13 papa yep, why?
06:13 eythian dcook: papa is our Brisbane office.
06:16 dcook papa: I always assumed that you were in NZ too
06:16 dcook I didn't know that there were any Koha Catalyst people in Oz
06:16 papa those happy days are gone...
06:17 dcook Oh?
06:17 eythian dcook: he's effectively an honourary NZer. Despite living in AU.
06:17 dcook hehe
06:18 papa happy Wellington days
06:18 cait why is it rain always starts when i am just about to walk to work?
06:18 dcook Hmm, your website only says Sydney and Melbourne?
06:19 papa I'm under cover
06:19 eythian cait: you made it rain by planning.
06:19 eythian next time, don't plan
06:19 dcook ^
06:19 dcook papa: Sneaky
06:19 cait meanies :)
06:19 papa :)
06:19 cait i can not not plan! i am german!
06:21 eythian you have a problem then :)
06:21 dcook hehe
06:21 * dcook thinks someone should add that quote...
06:21 dcook "<cait>i can not not plan! i am german!"
06:22 eythian @quote add <cait> i can not not plan! i am german!
06:22 huginn eythian: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
06:22 eythian hmm
06:22 cait meanies... hmpf.
06:22 cait eythian: you should plan better and log in :)
06:23 eythian @quote add <cait> i can not not plan! i am german!
06:23 wahanui i already had it that way, eythian.
06:23 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.  Quote #306 added.
06:23 dcook @quote 306
06:23 huginn dcook: I suck
06:23 cait @quote get 306
06:23 huginn cait: Quote #306: "<cait> i can not not plan! i am german!" (added by eythian at 06:23 AM, June 30, 2014)
06:24 dcook :D
06:25 eythian @quote get random
06:25 huginn eythian: Error: 'random' is not a valid id.
06:25 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
06:25 eythian @quote random
06:25 huginn eythian: Quote #166: "jcamins: this is IRC. There's a several decade long tradition of lurking." (added by wizzyrea at 03:06 PM, November 17, 2011)
06:25 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
06:25 eythian @quote random
06:25 huginn eythian: Quote #69: "<schuster> Now if I could only figure out how to control those daemons... or at least the ones in my head..." (added by jwagner at 02:02 PM, March 17, 2010)
06:26 * dcook grumbles about IndependentBranches
06:27 dcook Hmm, turns out you should really log out and log in after turning that stuff on...
06:27 dcook @quote random
06:27 huginn dcook: Quote #215: "mtompset> So would a Fire Weasel be a dev_hyperspace rift opening and spewing vast amounts of unformatted data at you?" (added by gmcharlt at 01:42 PM, August 22, 2012)
06:35 cait @quote random
06:35 huginn cait: Quote #157: "wizzyrea: bbiaf -> I know that means be back in a few but my brain told me that meant be back in a fire oleonard: similar to the common ctaof, for Can't talk, am on fire" (added by wizzyrea at 04:38 PM, September 23, 2011)
06:35 cait @quote random
06:35 huginn cait: Quote #117: "<druthb> basking ? You bask on the beach...one does not bask in the Potomac River basin...you melt or swelter or something, but you don't bask. :P" (added by jwagner at 01:17 PM, January 24, 2011)
06:35 cait bbiab
06:36 eythian http://www.bash.org/?60469
06:42 dcook lol
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06:44 ashimema Good morning #koha
06:46 eythian hi ashimema
06:46 eythian I'm off now.
06:46 eythian The neighbourhood is going downhill ;)
06:46 eythian also, it's late :)
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06:48 ashimema haha.. thanks eythian.
06:48 ashimema have a nice evening.
06:48 eythian later :)
06:48 dcook later eythian
06:49 dcook yo ashimema and paul_p
06:51 paul_p yo dcook & others
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07:00 reiveune hello
07:00 wahanui hola, reiveune
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07:15 fridolin hie all
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07:39 dcook Oooo, I think I might have found a doozy of a C4::Search bug...lol
07:40 paul_p dcook doozy mean dozen ? ( in this case, it mean you're read only the first 100 lines :D )
07:40 dcook hehe
07:40 dcook doozy in this case means "huge and awful"
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07:41 cait morning #koha
07:41 dcook If I'm right, doing a "library catalog" search with a query like "this is a query" (ie a query wrapped in double quotation marks) will never produce results
07:41 dcook When using...QueryWeightedFields
07:41 dcook QueryWeightFields*
07:43 dcook Refactoring "_build_weighted_query" within C4::Search::buildQuery is high on my "want to do" list
07:43 dcook It's a bit of a nightmare at the moment
07:43 * cait totally believes that
07:44 * dcook ponders
07:44 dcook If I'm able to finish some local tasks fast, I might be able to get to this later this week...
07:44 dcook The only downside is that it will change expected search results, so librarians might complain
07:44 dcook Even though it's working better than before
07:45 dcook I suppose so long as we know to say "Yeah...it was broken before...it's better now.", it might be ok
07:45 dcook lol...
07:45 dcook $operand =~ s/"/ /g;    # Bug 7518: searches with quotation marks don't work
07:45 cait i think so
07:45 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7518 normal, P3, ---, fridolyn.somers, RESOLVED FIXED, searches with quotation marks don't work
07:45 dcook At least it acknowledges that it doesn't work..
07:46 cait that's abit different
07:46 dcook Ah...
07:46 cait search explodes with one "
07:46 dcook It looks like 3.14.3 might fix that..
07:47 dcook Ahhh, nevermind
07:47 dcook cait: Well, that'll have to get fixed too :p
07:48 dcook If I'm right, it was exploding because "_build_weighted_query" tries to be smarter than it is
07:48 dcook And adds its own quotation marks which is a bad idea
07:48 dcook I'll need to do quite a bit of testing on this one though...
07:55 cait dcook: i think there was always something wrong with various combinations of the search prefs
07:56 dcook Yeah, a lot of the search sysprefs don't play well together
07:56 * dcook intends to fix that
07:56 dcook It's largely because QueryWeightFields and the truncation mechanisms really don't play well together
07:57 * dcook has ideas
07:57 dcook Not precise plans yet...but ideas
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08:12 ashimema Wow.. dcook.. did you just volunteer to fix all our zebra woes
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08:15 dcook ashimema: Mmm, not all
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08:15 dcook But probably some major ones
08:15 gaetan_B hello
08:15 wahanui bidet, gaetan_B
08:15 dcook Zebra is actually a pretty decent beast
08:15 dcook But we don't treat it very well
08:15 dcook And, from what I've seen, a great number of the problems are due to poor query building
08:16 dcook (I imagine this is why Jared focused on introducing the QueryParser as his first step to fix Search)
08:18 dcook I'm not volunteering to take on the Search Rewrite RFC, but I'll refactor as much code as possible
08:19 dcook I have ideas :)
08:23 cait ideas are good :)
08:24 cait fixing the issues witht he query parser woudl be nice too...
08:24 cait so many things would be nice really hm.
08:24 ashimema Would be lovely to get get QP to be the foundation for zebra..
08:25 ashimema and I agree with you dcook.. zera used correctly is actually a very good search system.. we just don't use it well at all.
08:26 dcook Totes
08:26 dcook Yeah, I plan to look at QueryParser at some point after I iron out some of these issues with non-QP
08:27 cait :)
08:27 cait dcook++
08:27 dcook I think Search is one of the, if not THE, most important parts of the catalogue, so hopefully we can get it working better...
08:27 dcook On that note, I should really go home :p
08:28 cait yes go home
08:28 cait get rest
08:28 cait :)
08:28 * dcook is feeling a bit sick at the moment actually :(
08:29 cait hopefully not because of zebra and our way of mistreating it#
08:29 dcook hehe
08:30 dcook I think it's probably due to my wife working with kids and having attended two weddings this weekend
08:30 dcook So many germ factories...
08:30 cait children?
08:30 dcook hehe
08:30 dcook The children and the wedding guests ;)
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08:34 dcook ok really going home this time
08:34 dcook night all
08:34 wahanui goodnight dcook. You'll be back.
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09:38 cait Joubu: around?
09:40 Joubu cait: hi!
09:40 cait do you have a sec for the rollovers?
09:40 Joubu yep
09:41 cait the amount showed up in the grey lines
09:41 ashimema oh.. we'de be interested in that too ;)
09:41 cait so not in the lines with the moved orders
09:42 cait ashimema: it looks like a really great feature so far :)
09:42 cait Joubu: i will start again
09:42 cait when you do the rollover, you get the report table with what has been moved
09:42 cait there is some kind of summary line in a darker grey and then there are the lines for the single orders
09:43 cait and the amoutn with the .000000 appeared in the dark grey lines for the fund - i think maybe only if you move the money too?
09:43 Joubu yep, but...
09:43 cait ohoh :)
09:44 Joubu I am going to double check
09:45 Joubu I got "budget_12 (id=82) Amount=400 (200 remaining has been moved)"
09:45 cait ah
09:45 cait the outputi had was without moving them maybe
09:45 cait hm mine looked somewhat different this morning
09:45 cait maybe different settings?
09:46 Joubu cait: We don't have a pref/setting to manage the price/number format
09:46 cait Joubu: ah, i meant maybe when you decide not to move the funds, the line would look different
09:46 Joubu but I can hardcode the number of decimal values to display
09:47 cait it's really a tiny thing, not worth spending too much time on, just wanted to try and help you locate it
09:48 Joubu cait: yes, good catch. If I don't click  the checkbox, I see the .0000
09:48 cait just checked your patch, i think i reated more confusion
09:48 cait my suggestions was to rename informations to information OR details
09:49 Joubu haaa :) yes
09:49 Joubu so Information or Details ?
09:49 cait wht you prefer :) i think we have details in other places, but I didn't check
09:49 Joubu "Details" smells good
09:49 cait heh
09:50 cait about the question, what i was wondering was, if you decide to move the money from the old to the new budget, together with the orders - should the money really move? like be removed from the old budget (subtracted) and added to the new?
09:50 cait i am not sure about this really
09:50 cait i wanted to check with my coworkers today on how it works in their experience
09:55 cait Joubu: ok - i asked them, if you move the money, the old budget is not changed, so your implementation is like they would expect it work :)
09:55 Joubu great :)
09:56 cait so just the typos and a bit more testing and hopefully nothing iwll be found :)
09:56 cait Joubu: i really like the options it offers :)
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10:58 vfernandes hi ;)
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10:58 vfernandes any one here with experience to configurate koha as z39.50 server?
10:59 vfernandes http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]s_a_Z39.50_server
10:59 vfernandes first i have uncommented the line refered on point 1 of that page
11:01 vfernandes yaz-client inside server is working with the ip and with the domain
11:01 vfernandes INSIDE SERVER : yaz-client catalogo.biblioteca.iscte-iul.pt:9998/biblios WORKING
11:01 vfernandes OUTSIDE SERVER : yaz-client catalogo.biblioteca.iscte-iul.pt:9998/biblios NOT WORKING
11:05 vfernandes biblioserver is running on port 9998, authorityserver on port 9998, public server on port 9998
11:06 vfernandes *authorityserver on port 9999
11:06 vfernandes there is any problem to have biblioserver and publicserver on the same port?
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11:50 fridolin vfernandes: indeed you can not have 2 servers using TCP on the same port
11:51 fridolin but you can have one on unix socket and the other on TCP
11:51 vfernandes fridolin.... my bad, biblioserver is running on unix socket
11:52 fridolin vfernandes: maybe you have a firewall bocking 9998 port
11:52 fridolin test with telnet
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12:05 francharb Morning #koha
12:11 cait morning francharb
12:11 cait @later tell tcohen ping :)
12:11 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
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12:19 oleonard Hi #koha
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12:22 tcohen morning!
12:22 wahanui morning is a state of the cait
12:23 cait hi tcohen :)
12:23 cait overdues--
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12:51 grharry hello, I cant query the z3950 server with "find @attr 1=54 fre" language of  the item and neither koha OPAC shows any results when selecting language from advanced search !!
12:52 grharry zebra returns [114]  Unsupported Use attribute
12:53 grharry anybody knows something about this ???
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13:05 cait grharry: did you make sure those are in your records?
13:05 grharry yes cait ... they are
13:05 cait only in 041 or also in the controlled field?
13:05 grharry I am in unimarc
13:06 grharry 101 a
13:06 cait hm it might not be indexed in ln
13:06 grharry it is
13:06 grharry I thing
13:06 grharry sorry
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13:06 grharry I think it is
13:06 grharry it is in koha indexdefs
13:06 cait it looks like it should be in 100
13:07 cait There is a pref for defaulting the field - UNIMARCField100Lanugage
13:07 grharry no
13:08 grharry this is the http://archive.ifla.org/VI/3/p1996-1/uni1.htm#100 general processing data field
13:08 grharry and is the code of marc record
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13:09 cait maybe it's meant for Language of Cataloguing
13:09 cait sorry not sure
13:09 cait were you able to track down the reason fro your other search problems?
13:09 grharry yes
13:09 grharry wrong query
13:09 grharry and
13:09 grharry since most people do not know unimarc
13:09 grharry where not able to help
13:10 grharry :)
13:10 grharry in unimarc
13:10 grharry $a Lastname $b First name
13:10 grharry so needed
13:10 grharry @and
13:10 huginn grharry: downloading the Perl source
13:11 cait grharry: first i would check which fields are indexed as language
13:11 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12223 - members-update.tt has misspelled field B_phone name <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]89d1e547948ae1e9f> / Bug 12361 - No default value for opaccolorstylesheet syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]80b35c36c283a7ada> / Bug 12479: (QA followup) minor fixes, and tcohen added <http://git.koha-community.or
13:11 cait als check another unimarc catalog for reference - if it works there
13:21 grharry http://paste.koha-community.or[…]bmit=Format+it%21
13:22 grharry It all seems good
13:22 grharry in the zebra config files
13:25 cait hm
13:25 cait not sure then
13:25 cait butit looks ok to me too
13:26 cait Yohann++
13:34 rhcl @wunder new haven, ct
13:34 huginn rhcl: The current temperature in Yale, Kline Geology Lab, New Haven, Connecticut is 23.3°C (9:08 AM EDT on June 30, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019 hPa (Rising).
13:34 rhcl @wunder 64507
13:34 huginn rhcl: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 27.3°C (8:34 AM CDT on June 30, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 29.75 in 1007 hPa (Falling).
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13:39 grharry I dont understand  "find @attr 1=1095 fre" original-code of the item ... works OK .. but not the 1=54 !!!
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13:43 marjorie Hi,  anyone knows a SQL query to list the authorities that are not used? Thanks!
13:47 cait marjorie: i think that would be quite complicated
13:48 cait i think you'd need to use the marcxml field and compare the values in $9 in several fields to your auth_headers table
13:48 marjorie cait: ah!
13:48 cait i ahven't tried it so far
13:49 cait but it's the only way i can think of to find out right now
13:49 marjorie cait: ok thanks!
13:49 vfernandes i can't put my koha as z39.50 server :/
13:50 cait marjorie: it could create quite a load on your server
13:50 cait marjorie: if you can maybe to it on a test machine or limit it to some fields/records at first
13:51 jcamins marjorie: unless you have an extremely small collection, trying an SQL query to identify unused authorities is likely to be rather rough on your server.
13:51 vfernandes anyone can help me?
13:51 cait vfernandes: i have only done it once with marc21 so probably not much help there :(
13:51 cait and then only tested it locally
13:51 cait did you check the wiki?
13:52 vfernandes yes cait i've followed the wiki
13:52 marjorie cait: thanks for your help, i will try on a test machine
13:56 oleonard paul_p is sporting a beard now, or is that evil paul_p from a parallel universe? https://twitter.com/BibLibre/s[…]83589461142671360
13:58 paul_p oleonard yes, it's me ;-)
13:58 oleonard :)
13:58 paul_p wearing a beard since 2-3 months
13:58 vfernandes z39.50 is UDP or TCP?
13:59 vfernandes because my listen for public server is set tcp:@:9998
14:05 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
14:05 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
14:05 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #34: FIXED in 55 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_U12/34/
14:05 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 12464 - Bootstrap XSLT view no longer displaying 505 correctly formatted
14:05 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 7143: Updating new developers
14:05 jenkins_koha * David Cook: Bug 12479 - [SIGNED-OFF] Update mailmap for master
14:05 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12464 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed by Module Maintainer , Bootstrap XSLT view no longer displaying 505 correctly formatted
14:05 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12479: (QA followup) minor fixes, and tcohen added
14:05 jenkins_koha * Fridolin Somers: Bug 12361 - No default value for opaccolorstylesheet syspref
14:05 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 12223 - members-update.tt has misspelled field B_phone name
14:05 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
14:05 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12479 trivial, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Update mailmap for master
14:06 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12361 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , No default value for opaccolorstylesheet syspref
14:06 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12223 trivial, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , members-update.tt has misspelled field B_phone name
14:20 cait oleonard: but we can only see his back!
14:20 * cait waves at paul_p
14:22 paul_p hello cait.
14:23 tcohen hi paul_p!
14:23 tcohen o/
14:23 paul_p cait = wait a few minuts, I'll send you a link with a video of me with my beard (speaking french though)
14:24 paul_p ;)
14:24 cait yay :)
14:28 cait overdues-testing--
14:28 cait everything dates related causes mighty headaches
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15:09 tcohen oleonard: 11810 is not applying anymore
15:09 tcohen could you regen the css with less?
15:16 grharry Hello again ... regarding the zebra index schema of 3.16 vs 3.14 I've just reverted my zebra conf from the 3.16 KOHA  to 3.14 and after rebuilding  the indexes (  unimarc ) the query "find @attr 1=54 fre" works as well as the OPAC !!
15:17 cait bug 11810
15:17 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11810 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Input fields in OPAC suggestion form are a bit short (Bootstrap)
15:18 tcohen grharry: do u mean that with your current setup UNIMARC searching is not working?
15:18 grharry So I would presume that there must be some sort of miss-configuration for the zebra 3.16 in the index defs
15:19 grharry tcohen: zebra index defs of 3.16  and specific query (1=54) language of the item ... NO
15:19 grharry and UNIMARC
15:19 wahanui hmmm... UNIMARC is http://www.ifla.org/en/publica[…]ted-documentation
15:20 fridolin see u
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15:22 tcohen you should fill a bug on that
15:22 grharry Yes ... I intend to ... but I would like to check it the bug still holds for koha 3.16.01 ... I am on 3.16.00.01 !!!!
15:23 grharry and also perform a diff check between the versions !!!
15:24 cait grrr overdues--
15:28 grharry I am afraid that V3.16.01 zebra indexes  also have the same problem
15:29 grharry yes indeed they do !!! :)
15:32 reiveune bye
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15:33 tcohen grharry: fill the bug
15:33 tcohen we'll sort it out
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15:33 tcohen (if you provide a solution you'd earn bonus cookies btw)
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15:34 grharry tcohen: thanx ... I prefer a beer !!! I will try to locate the problem ...
15:34 tcohen first fill the bug!
15:35 tcohen come to kohacon14 in october and you'll have that beer
15:35 cait hehe
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16:06 oleonard gmcharlt: Looks like we need a version entry in Bugzilla for 3.16
16:11 cait oleonard: you are right
16:11 cait maybe rangi coudl do it too
16:12 cait @later tell rangi - could you add a 3.16 version to bugzilla please?
16:12 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
16:12 cait worth a try .)
16:25 gaetan_B bye!
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16:43 nazareth hi
16:43 wahanui que tal, nazareth
16:43 nazareth hablan español?
16:43 nazareth que tal buenos dias..
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16:46 nazareth_ hola?
16:46 nazareth_ hola hola?
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16:52 nazareth_ hi?
16:52 * wahanui waves
16:52 nazareth_ alguien que hable español?
16:53 nazareth_ hablas español?
16:57 nazareth_ heeeeeey,..
17:00 oleonard barton: I don't think I can reproduce Bug 12371. My query of borrower_modifications looks like the results on the bug, but clicking through from verification emails seems to work as it should
17:00 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12371 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Links in every patron self-registration email points to a single borrower
17:00 oleonard barton: Were you able to observe specific problems with clicking through from verification emails?
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18:19 tcohen marc editor for linux?
18:21 cait vi
18:21 cait or vim
18:21 cait heh
18:21 cait give me a sec
18:22 cait http://galencharlton.com/blog/[…]-marc-editor-vim/
18:31 tcohen :-D
18:31 tcohen i thought we had an iso file
19:00 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12419: Not for loan items are not listed <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]51415220389a83559> / Bug 12419: (QA followup) regression tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ccc60ba1535a0e8ef> / Bug 12455: (QA followup) license text missing <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]iff;h=870cafa4afa
19:02 tcohen @later tell oleonard please check 11810 that doesn't apply anymore
19:02 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
19:03 oleonard Hi tcohen I'm here now
19:04 tcohen thanks oleonard!
19:04 oleonard tcohen: My understanding of how bootstrap CSS conflicts should be handled is that you should compile a new copy of the CSS and commit that
19:05 tcohen so i pick your .less and regenerate
19:05 tcohen no problem
19:05 oleonard I'm using:
19:05 oleonard lessc --yui-compress koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/less/opac.less > koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/css/opac.css
19:16 tcohen oleonard: i installed the latest less and it is -x instead of --yui-compress
19:17 oleonard I'm pretty sure both are options and they do different things
19:17 oleonard the --yui-compress option removes line breaks
19:17 tcohen ah
19:17 tcohen so we don't minify the file
19:18 tcohen i thought we did
19:18 oleonard --yui-compress does minify
19:19 * tcohen blames the latest lessc from npm
19:20 tcohen oleonard: it doesn't minify the file in my box
19:21 oleonard You don't get a one-line CSS file with all whitespace removed?
19:28 tcohen exactly
19:28 tcohen "yui-compress option has been removed. ignoring."
19:28 oleonard What version of lessc?
19:29 tcohen lessc 1.7.3 (Less Compiler) [JavaScript]
19:29 oleonard Ah okay so it's my fault for having an older version :)
19:36 jcamins tcohen: yaz-marcdump + sed
19:37 tcohen you're brave jcamins
19:37 tcohen can I use vim instead of sed?
19:37 jcamins I _guess_.
19:40 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11810: (followup) regenerate CSS due to conflict <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d0ab07c12dd0fd224> / Bug 11810: Input fields in OPAC suggestion form are a bit short (Bootstrap) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3c7d41a0e40571bd8>
19:44 jcamins tcohen++ # advanced RM sneakiness - incorporating Argentine tango into your project management technique
19:44 tcohen heh
19:48 tcohen bye #koha
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20:47 rhcl If I lived in NY, like _some_ of the people on here...
20:47 rhcl http://x.hope.net/index.html
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22:22 eythian hi
22:24 cait hi eythian
22:26 eythian http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]ring-back-the-moa <-- uh huh
23:07 eythian http://youtu.be/T9-OWfS2Vy4 <-- educational
23:55 dcook Hmm, maybe I should download an IRC client for my phone again
23:55 dcook Otherwise, I'll never make it to a dev meeting on IRC...
23:56 dcook Oooh. I'm getting a tablet soon...that could make it less painful...
23:56 eythian what tablet?
23:57 * dcook tries to remember
23:57 dcook Some friends bought it for me for my birthday
23:58 eythian I have a nexus 7 which I quite like
23:58 dcook Galaxy Tab 3 7", I believe
23:59 eythian ah yep
23:59 dcook I already have an S3 for a phone as well and apparently they sync...hmm

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