IRC log for #koha, 2014-06-24

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00:10 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
00:10 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
00:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #22: FIXED in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]oha_Master_D7/22/
00:10 jenkins_koha Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12428: remove debugging leftover
00:11 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12428 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , "OPAC info" is not displayed in the OPAC
00:19 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
00:19 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
00:19 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #29: FIXED in 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_U12/29/
00:19 jenkins_koha Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12428: remove debugging leftover
00:19 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12428 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , "OPAC info" is not displayed in the OPAC
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00:41 dcook eythian: Around for a quick Devel::NYTProf question?
00:41 dcook Ah, nevermind
00:41 dcook[…]th_Devel::NYTProf
00:41 dcook to the rescue
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00:47 eythian dcook: fixed it for you :D
00:48 dcook eythian: Hmm?
00:50 dcook Was it not right?
00:51 eythian no, your question.
00:54 dcook Hmm, the wiki didn't quite help in any case :/
01:00 dcook Think I see the problem..
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01:01 dcook :S
01:06 * dcook would love to know how it's an invalid option when it's in the documentation..
01:07 dcook Mm just bad wiki instructions me thinks
01:07 eythian different version perhaps?
01:08 dcook SetEnv NYTPROF=file=/tmp/nytprof.out:o​ut:addpid=1:endatexit=1:stmts=0
01:08 dcook Probably should be:
01:08 dcook SetEnv NYTPROF "file=/tmp/nytprof.out:add​pid=1:endatexit=1:stmts=0"
01:08 dcook The versions were the same (at least between my installed module and the doco)
01:09 eythian ah yep, that seems like an error
01:09 dcook I think it was parsing that first "=" as the value
01:11 dcook Hmm now how do I want to view these results..
01:13 dcook Ooo pretty
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01:34 dcook Whelp. That was interesting. Yay for being able to use Devel::NYTProf now :D
01:35 eythian It's useful
01:35 dcook I would love to know more about its color coding..
01:36 dcook How it decides what's green, yellow, red
01:36 dcook salmon
01:37 eythian I'm guessing it works out some limits and colours accordingly
01:37 dcook But according to what? :/
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01:40 eythian the range of values it gets overall?
01:41 dcook Hmm, but then you'd always be in the red, no?
01:43 dcook Although I suppose that could make sense..
01:43 dcook In fact, that's probably it
01:43 tcohen night #koha
01:44 dcook night tcohen
01:44 dcook Because there probably isn't any predictable way of measuring performance absolutely...
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01:45 eythian well, it's not an accuracy problem. It's just you want to light up the ones that take the longest so they can be optimised the most.
01:46 dcook Exactly
01:47 dcook For instance, it appears I'm using XML::SAX::PurePerl on this server
01:47 dcook Probably should be using somethign else
01:50 dcook Although it'll always probably be a bit of a time suck
01:50 dcook I think ZOOM is what's killing me, but that's what I need to use. Might be able to optimise it a bit but suppose I don't want to waste time micro-optimising either.
01:51 eythian optimise what'll make the biggest difference.
02:15 dcook ncip?
02:15 wahanui i heard ncip was NISO, SIP is 3M
02:15 dcook ncip?
02:15 wahanui rumour has it ncip is NISO, SIP is 3M
02:30 * dcook wonders what the flag "GNA" stands for in
02:33 rangi gone no address
02:36 dcook Hmm...don't know how I'd never seen that one before
02:36 * dcook looks again
02:36 dcook And there it is right there :)
02:43 dcook Do folks have ideas about the $inprocess argument for CanBookBeIssued?
02:44 dcook Seems like it's set after AddIssue..
02:44 rangi yep
02:44 rangi it means a session with a borrower is in process
02:45 rangi which will let them go over the threshold to stop issuing, if they started below it
02:45 rangi say they owe $8, the threshold is $10 they have 1 dvd that costs $2 and 5 books that are free
02:45 rangi without inprocess, dvd is issued, and bam, they cant get out the books anymore
02:46 dcook Ahhh, interesting
02:46 dcook Thanks for filling me in, rangi :)
02:47 rangi no worries
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03:56 eythian eww, this code has an 'unless ... else ...' structure. I always find them really hard to understand.
03:57 dcook eythian: What are you looking at?
03:57 eythian
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03:58 * cait waves
03:58 dcook Ooo nested unlesses. Fun times.
03:58 eythian yeah
03:58 eythian there's no call for that sort of ugliness.
03:58 eythian hi cait
03:58 cait hi eythian
03:58 cait you too discussing search code again?
03:59 cait you two...
03:59 cait hm i stil can't type...
03:59 eythian no
03:59 eythian just some ugly code in
03:59 dcook yo cait
03:59 dcook 'tis ugly
03:59 eythian (nested unless ... else ... type things.)
03:59 cait ah
03:59 cait but it was sitll a good guess... :)
04:01 eythian plugins don't seem to be working in 3.14 for me
04:01 * eythian attempts to find out why
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04:03 * dcook can't say that he's tried, although he hadn't turned it on in koha-conf.xml either
04:05 cait hm pref, koha-conf.xml and permission?
04:08 eythian no, the plugin uploads but never shows up as available.
04:12 cait hm and the path in koha-conf is right?
04:12 cait hm if ituploads...
04:13 cait i haen't played muchwith it really :(
04:14 eythian I have, and it worked seamlessly
04:21 cait eythian: hope you can figure it out
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04:44 eythian looks like a broken dependency somewhere.
04:44 dcook "O
04:44 dcook :O *
04:45 wizzyrea dcook: have you heard of people unable to stage marc imports in IE?
04:45 * dcook ponders
04:45 dcook Maybe
04:45 wizzyrea 3.12-ish
04:45 dcook But I can't recall for sure
04:45 dcook We skipped 3.12 so not sure
04:46 dcook I haven't heard anything recently but it's possible none of our folk on IE have tried it recently
04:46 wizzyrea cool
04:46 wizzyrea just thought I'd ask
04:46 dcook no worries :)
04:46 eythian OK, something (and I can't tell what) needed Class::ISA
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05:51 * magnuse waves
05:51 dcook yo magnuse
05:52 magnuse kia ora dcook
06:12 cait hm
06:12 cait i have to go to work
06:12 cait and it won't stop raining
06:14 cait of course... it just got worse
06:14 * dcook had a feeling it would
06:14 * dcook looks outside
06:14 dcook I'm not saying anything
06:14 dcook @wunder sydney, australia
06:14 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 16.0°C (4:00 PM EST on June 24, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady).
06:15 magnuse @wunder boo
06:15 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0°C (7:50 AM CEST on June 24, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Rising).
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06:26 ashimema morning #koha
06:26 eythian hi ashimema
06:26 ashimema @wunder steveange, uk
06:26 huginn ashimema: Error: No such location could be found.
06:26 ashimema @wunder stevenange, uk
06:26 huginn ashimema: Error: No such location could be found.
06:26 eythian @wunder nzwn
06:26 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (6:00 PM NZST on June 24, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
06:26 ashimema @wunder stevenage, uk
06:26 huginn ashimema: The current temperature in Monkswood, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 13.2°C (7:26 AM BST on June 24, 2014). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
06:26 ashimema third time lucky ;)
06:27 eythian don't even know how to spell where you are eh? :)
06:27 ashimema it's early...
06:27 ashimema ;)
06:27 * dcook is barely coherent at 7:30am
06:27 ashimema that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it :p
06:27 ashimema hwos it going eythian, dcook
06:27 dcook Plodding along. You, ashimema?
06:28 eythian fairly well, though really busy, which is keeping me from ES work right now.
06:28 dcook :(
06:29 ashimema Pretty good, though also completely run off my feet busy.. not had a chance to really look at anything koha related for weeks now :(
06:30 ashimema just been reading up... is there a repository of plugins anywhere.. I've still not played with the plugin system and it's about time I do at some point.
06:31 * dcook has no clue
06:31 dcook That would be neat though I think
06:31 dcook I want to say that we thought about it at one point but rejected the idea as it might seem to be that the plugins would be endorsed when we had no guarantee about them
06:32 magnuse plugins?
06:32 wahanui plugins are just enabled or disabled with Wordpress, aren't they?
06:33 magnuse i think bywater has a kind of list, but it's short
06:33 magnuse
06:34 dcook Yeah, I think those are the original ones
06:36 magnuse probably
06:37 eythian we just have a plugin for EBSCO EDS integration that ebsco wrote.
06:38 ashimema it's a starting place anyways
06:38 eythian though I think the plugin system needs a richer API, it's a useful start.
06:38 ashimema anywho.. i'de best go get the daughter some breakfast.
06:38 ashimema see you all in a bit.
06:38 eythian Yeah, tim efor me to head off too
06:38 eythian later
06:40 magnuse have fun eythian
06:40 dcook later ashimema
06:40 dcook ta eythian
06:40 dcook Yeah, the plugin system needs to be a bit richer...
06:40 dcook And the EBSCO EDS plugin needs to be updated...
06:41 * dcook isn't a huge fan so far
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06:45 reiveune hello
06:45 wahanui privet, reiveune
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06:53 magnuse i think the idea was to start small with the plugins system, in orderto not create too many security problems at once? :-)
06:58 dcook true true
06:59 paxed what? why are we getting 404 if the last item is marked as missing?
06:59 paxed (404 in opac, that is)
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07:02 paxed ...and doesn't consider close dates at all?!
07:02 paxed closed*
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07:08 cait hello #koha
07:08 cait :)
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07:18 dcook Hmm GetMember requires a hash rather than a hashref...and GetMemberDetails returns true even if the borrowernumber doesn't exist..bleargh
07:18 gaetan_B hello
07:18 dcook hey gaetan_B
07:18 wahanui it has been said that gaetan_B is working at Biblibre and did the nice new start page together with asaurat or a fan of icons
07:18 dcook (hey also to cait)
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07:24 fridolin hie all
07:24 fridolin I plan to release 3.14.08 today : cooking the pie ;)
07:26 magnuse yay! :-)
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07:37 cait hi gaetan_B :)
07:38 gaetan_B fun fact (just revealed by fridolin) :
07:38 gaetan_B if your latest items in the items table have numbers 100,101 and 102, you delete 101 and 102 and then restart mysql
07:38 gaetan_B you have items with itemnumber 101 and 102 in deleteditems
07:39 gaetan_B but your next items in the items table will have itemnumbers 101 and 102
07:39 gaetan_B or maybe not so much fun fact ;)
07:41 fridolin that's why the dump file contains the last increment
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07:44 binu hi getting an error in zebra rebuild. can anyone help?
07:49 nlegrand Hey #koha!
07:50 nlegrand binu: maybe :) just ask
08:15 binu [13:28] <binu> hi [13:30] <binu> running koha 3.14.06 on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS [13:30] <nlegrand> ho why don't you ask on main channel ? [13:30] <binu> ok [13:31] <nlegrand> anyway feel free to ask :) [13:31] <nlegrand> I'm not sure I'll be able to answer, but who knows?  ^^ [13:31] <binu> created a new instance and upgraded a data of 3.10 into it. [13:32] <binu> since search was not working on this new instance after upgradation. i did koha-rebuild-zebra -f [13:
08:17 binu [13:34] <binu> it gave an error after 10 min or so with the message "Something went wrong rebuilding biblio indexes for nehu" [13:34] <binu> what do i need to check? [13:34] <binu> nehu is the instance name> [13:36] <nlegrand> I don't know, I'm not using debian commands, you should ask on main [13:36] <nlegrand> channel [13:37] <nlegrand> but you could first add the -v flag [13:37] <nlegrand> maybe a little bit more verbosity will help :) [13:40] <binu> i di
08:23 ashimema try -f -v on the above command..
08:23 ashimema should give you a bit more output for us to work with.
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08:46 ashimema I must work out how to stop the joins/departes messages in this irc client.
08:47 ashimema their drowning out any real chat at the moment.
08:47 binu ashimema - if you find any solution for this IRC, kindly do let me know.
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09:07 magnuse i say
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09:26 ashimema any dbic peeps around..?
09:26 ashimema getting an error thrown out from one of my scripts
09:26 ashimema Argument "" isn't numeric in numeric eq (==) at /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/DBIx/Class/ line 992.
09:27 ashimema and have no idea how to trace it back further..
09:27 ashimema wondered if anyone had come across it before.
09:40 magnuse what does that line in do?
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12:03 nlegrand what could prevent a document searchable on the intranet from being searchable on the OPAC?
12:03 nlegrand (on a 3.16 koha for those affraid I'm talking about 3.2 again ^^)
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12:19 nlegrand erf, found it, they are marked as 'suppressed' from OPAC search result...
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12:25 drojf hi #koha
12:27 khall question: does anyone else get "server gone away" errors when running db dependent unit test on master?
12:27 khall cait: gmcharlt ^
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12:43 cait khall: not so far hm.
12:43 cait some specific test?
12:44 khall I get them with "perl t/db_dependent/Circulation.t"
12:44 khall can you try that on the latest master cait?
12:47 pianohacker ashimema: Try putting 'use Carp::Always;' at the top of one of your scripts
12:48 pianohacker you might have to install it but it will give you a traceback for most everything
12:48 cait not right now - sorry
12:48 cait my installation is set up at 'not quite master' that i have here and i am in the middle of testing something
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12:48 pianohacker khall: funny story, I was dealing with that exact error on master, blamed it on the multiprocess stuff I'm doing
12:49 khall pianohacker:[…]_bug.cgi?id=12472
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12:49 huginn Bug 12472: normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Unit Tests failing with "MySQL server has gone away"
12:49 pianohacker well son of a gun.
12:50 pianohacker khall++
12:51 tcohen khall++
12:52 pianohacker khall: I think that's exactly what my problem is. Did that previous commit at least fix the issue of Koha::Database and DBI connecting separately so the transaction stuff didn't work?
12:52 khall yes, the issue was the followup removing Koha::Storage
12:52 khall tcohen: can you test and confirm?
12:53 pianohacker cool. so after fixing some fallout, things are better. Excellent!
12:53 khall tcohen: I never see the errors mentioned in the patch for the followup to bug 11891 that removes Koha::Storage
12:53 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11891 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Make Koha::Schema use C4::Context->dbh
12:53 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12427: Allow execution of UTs on a DB with issues <[…]2130044cd0d7b86f5> / Bug 12427: adding unit tests of module <[…]6854f7ca0968ecb2d> / Bug 11292 [QA Followup] - Use noEnterSubmit instead of new keypress handler <http://git.k
12:54 pianohacker @more
12:54 huginn pianohacker: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more.  To do so, call this command with that person's nick.
12:55 pianohacker ah, right, that would have broken since we killed off the jquery hotkeys plugin
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14:25 tcohen can anyone tell me the option switches needed for running in daemon mode?
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14:26 tcohen background indexing?
14:29 tcohen huginn: background indexing is[…]dexing_with_Zebra
14:29 huginn tcohen: I suck
14:31 pianohacker wrong bot tcohen ;)
14:34 tcohen which is the right one?
14:34 tcohen jenkins_koha isn't
14:36 pianohacker wahanui, I think
14:36 tcohen ahhh, its offline
14:36 tcohen @later tell wahanui we miss you
14:36 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
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14:39 pianohacker oh shoot :(
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15:04 reiveune bye
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15:20 * cait states that she hates overdues.
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15:26 cait what i am seeing here makes no sense at all :(
15:28 Joubu cait: have to go. But you can open a bug report and assign it to me if you find a bug on overdues
15:28 Joubu I love them...
15:28 Joubu good night
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15:29 cait bye Joubu
15:29 cait i might have to... when i can figure out waht it's doing there
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15:39 bag good morning y'all
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15:54 jenkins_koha Starting build #3 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
16:09 cait good morning bag
16:10 bag good morning cait
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16:22 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #3: STILL UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]oha_3.16.x_U14/3/
16:22 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12226: (regression tests) Check_Userid should always consider the DB user not unique
16:22 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 12226 - A user with the database username/userid can access staff with full permissions
16:22 jenkins_koha * Fridolin Somers: Bug 12458 - Holidays calendar has wrong colors for weekly and yearly repeatable
16:22 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 12255 - Amazon cover images have useless image alt text in bootstrap
16:22 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12226 is not accessible.
16:22 jenkins_koha * Zeno Tajoli: Bug 12299: Translate marc21_relatorterms.sql into Italian
16:22 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12458 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Holidays calendar has wrong colors for weekly and yearly repeatable
16:22 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12255 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Amazon cover images have useless image alt text in bootstrap
16:22 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12299 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , SQL setup (MARC21), translation of relators codes - Italian
16:28 cait hm
16:28 cait i am trying to wrap my mind around overdues...
16:28 cait would be happy if somene could take a look at bug 11704
16:28 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11704 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Stable , Wrong headers in {opac|intranet}/svc/report
16:28 cait hm not that wone
16:28 cait bug 12473
16:28 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12473 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Overdue notices listing wrong items
16:29 cait i am not sure if it's me or Koha :)
16:39 jenkins_koha Starting build #4 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
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16:44 gaetan_B bye !
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17:07 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #4: STILL UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]oha_3.16.x_U14/4/
17:07 jenkins_koha Yohann Dufour: Bug 12379: remove double use of plugin KohaDates
17:07 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12379 minor, P5 - low, ---, yohann.dufour, Pushed to Stable , Double use of module KohaDates
17:09 tcohen ashimema: i've refactored bug 8773 so it uses -daemon
17:09 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup
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17:48 pianohacker Is there anyone here who is familiar with UNIMARC that can speak to the accuracy of ? If it's correct it seems tremendously useful
17:55 pianohacker @later tell magnuse it looks like the 005 update logic in ModBiblioMarc (roughly line 3404 in master) might need to be updated to apply to NORMARC as well. Is this true?
17:55 huginn pianohacker: The operation succeeded.
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17:58 ashimema nice work tcohen.. I try and find the time to take a look at it tomorrow.
17:59 tcohen i'll try to build a package for testing purposes
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18:00 pianohacker ashimema: were you able to fix your dbic error?
18:00 * cait waes
18:00 cait hm
18:00 * cait waves
18:00 cait bbl :)
18:00 tcohen o/
18:00 pianohacker bye cait
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18:01 ashimema painohacker..
18:01 tcohen hahah
18:01 ashimema yeah.. I didn't fend a better way to narrow it down.. but an educated guess lead me to the problem.
18:01 ashimema was passing in an empty field where I should have been passing in a number..
18:01 pianohacker Ahh kk. Makes sense
18:02 ashimema I kinda like dbic now.. though it's kinda hard to get your head around at first.
18:03 ashimema I'm working with dbic for another product at the mo though.. can't wait to get to grips with it in koha.
18:03 pianohacker yeah, most definitely
18:03 pianohacker Makes a lot of tasks much much easier
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18:05 ashimema Certianly does.. though grasping how joins work is proving interesting.
18:05 tcohen do we have coding guidelines for DBIx?
18:05 ashimema currently trying to work out how to sensibly do lookup tables in dbic.
18:05 ashimema not that i've spotted really..
18:06 ashimema gmchalt was aiming ot do a few example for people to follow at some point.
18:06 ashimema gmcharlt was aiming ot do a few example for people to follow at some point.
18:06 * ashimema manic typos
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18:07 pianohacker ashimema: lookup tables?
18:07 ashimema Yeah..
18:08 ashimema when you have two related tables with a many to many relationship.. you get them allot in normalised dataases..
18:08 ashimema so.. the 'lookup table' contains table1id, table2id only pretty much..
18:08 ashimema so is the way to match up the many to many relationship between two tables.
18:09 ashimema in my example.. we've got 'lists' and a list can have many 'items'.. but of course.. those 'items' can be on many different 'lists'.. so there's a listItems lookup table in the middle.
18:10 ashimema but they don't play very nicely with dbic in my current understanding.
18:12 pianohacker ashimema:[…]any_relationships , no?
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18:13 ashimema indeed.. that's currently what I'm working my way through ;)
18:13 ashimema or rather.. waht I was untill i had to go start working on somthing else in the middle.
18:15 drojf @later tell cait ping mich mal für einen lacher
18:15 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded.
18:16 pianohacker ashimema: okay, just wanted to make sure we were talking about the same thing
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18:19 ashimema there's a Lookuptables addition for dbic too.. which I beleive does some clever caching.
18:19 ashimema hense my confusion overall.
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19:07 * cait waves
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21:19 eythian hi
21:26 cait hi again eythian
21:29 eythian hi cait
21:39 bag hi cait and eythian
21:39 eythian hi bag
21:41 bag heya
21:42 bag anyone no if you can run SIP for koha on a separate machine?  I haven't done it yet or trying it
21:42 bag and that first no should be know
21:42 bag trying should be tried it
21:42 eythian you mean, have the SIP server on another machine?
21:42 bag yes sir
21:42 bag like one server web services, one database, and one SIP
21:43 eythian Presumably you can if it still talks to the same database, though it's possible there'd be some caching issues. However they're being found and fixed all the time.
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21:44 eythian I see no reason why you couldn't, anyway.
21:44 larryb heya eythian
21:44 eythian hi larryb
21:45 larryb have you ever heard of situation where the connections to the available sip processes had maxed but it *doesn't* start another process?
21:45 eythian I haven't seen that, but I don't actually know if our connections get maxed out anyway.
21:46 larryb okay thanks.
21:46 larryb we have an odd situation where it *seems* like the number of connections is maxing out, but it never creates a new process to handle the load. It doesn't even use the child processes.
21:47 eythian that seems weird
21:47 larryb yeah I know
21:47 eythian Actually, I'm not totally sure that SIP is supposed to create new processes, is it?
21:50 eythian oh, I see
21:50 eythian it should up to max_requests
21:50 eythian max_servers rather
21:51 larryb yeah, that's the thing. we have startup set to 30 and max_servers set to 60, but the total number of SIP processes NEVER goes above 31.
21:51 larryb so it's not even using the 10 child processes we have set
21:52 larryb the current version of Net::Server::PreFork is 2.008 (in cpan), but the Debian package version is 0.98 so we're going to try upgrading Net::Server::PreFork and see if that makes a difference.
21:52 eythian Might be worth trying
21:53 larryb fingers crossed
21:54 larryb well, thanks
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22:09 tcohen anyone from openlx here?
22:10 tcohen that's what I thought
22:15 tcohen no link to the community site
22:16 cait is this a new one?
22:16 tcohen i'm not sure, i was reading the Koha Users & Developers linkedin group messages
22:17 cait hm it lists edi
22:17 cait as a feature...
22:17 cait and ncip
22:17 cait and stop words
22:18 eythian and GPL V2
22:18 tcohen yeah
22:18 cait hm the koha logo in the footer is not linked to the community site
22:18 cait but to a contact form
22:18 cait idon't find a link :(
22:19 tcohen looks like the community is little involved in that linkedin group
22:19 cait ah
22:20 cait it's in the pull down on top
22:20 cait in the navigation
22:20 eythian yeah, just found that too
22:21 tcohen
22:21 tcohen oops
22:21 cait :)
22:21 cait practicing? :)
22:22 tcohen learning :-D
22:22 tcohen gotta start with familiar songs I guess
22:22 * eythian is sceptical about your taste in music :)
22:23 tcohen haha
22:23 tcohen you're right
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22:23 tcohen i have a punk background
22:24 tcohen but i listen almost anything
22:24 tcohen love mgmt, air, explosions in the sky, ramones, bad religion...
22:25 tcohen i'm learning songs for my to-be-born son anyway
22:25 tcohen :-D
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23:02 eythian tcohen: hey, with that DBIx thing, did you see if just dropping the version from wheezy into squeeze worked?
23:03 eythian if so, then that'll make life a bit easier.
23:12 tcohen will give it a try
23:12 tcohen good idea
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23:46 dcook Always think of tcohen when I hear explosions in the sky
23:46 * dcook is reading scrollback
23:47 dcook The wife just got a uke...tempting to get one myself...
23:47 dcook Of course, I really want to play Iron Maiden's The Trooper on it...not sure how well that will go
23:47 dcook Might want to start with Twinkle Twinkle Little Star to start...
23:47 dcook eythian: Do you play anything?
23:48 eythian I play a mean MP3 player.
23:51 dcook hehe
23:51 dcook Yeah, I'm about the same
23:51 dcook Once upon a time, I played piano and violin, but pretty sure I have no idea about either anymore.
23:51 dcook Metal on the uke is a goal though...
23:51 ibeardslee has been done many times
23:52 dcook I was just about to say there must be thousands of youtube videos, ibeardslee ;)
23:52 dcook I mostly just want to do it for personal enjoyment
23:52 eythian <-- did I post this here already?
23:52 ibeardslee I don't know enough about music to convert things into banjo tabs
23:53 dcook I don't think so but I'm clicking now
23:54 wizzyrea tcohen I didn't realise you were expecting sprog!
23:54 wizzyrea more kohababies yay!
23:54 tcohen sprog?
23:55 tcohen we are deprecating sporg
23:55 tcohen *sprog
23:55 * dcook didn't realize that tcohen was having a sprog either
23:55 tcohen wizzyrea: not many people knew
23:55 dcook eythian: This is great
23:55 dcook wizzyrea: There might be a Sydney-based kohababy in the coming years..
23:55 wizzyrea squee!
23:56 tcohen a kohababy named Manuel actually :-D
23:56 eythian aiming for a documentation manager? ;)
23:56 tcohen heh
23:58 pastebot "dcook" at pasted "math (or banking/politics)" (14 lines) at
23:58 dcook I saw this morning and can't help but reshare it
23:59 * dcook thought it was actually rather clever

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