IRC log for #koha, 2014-06-23

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00:03 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
00:03 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
00:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #24: FIXED in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_U12/24/
00:03 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12462: Fix some POD errors
00:03 jenkins_koha * Yohann Dufour: Bug 12416: add the test of DelUniqueDebarment
00:03 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12462 trivial, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Fix some POD errors
00:03 jenkins_koha * Yohann Dufour: Bug 12416: the subroutine 'ok' is replaced by the subroutine 'is'
00:03 jenkins_koha * Yohann Dufour: Bug 12416: add new tests of DelUniqueDebarment
00:03 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12416 normal, P5 - low, ---, yohann.dufour, Pushed to Master , DelUniqueDebarment (Debarments.pm) is not tested in Borrower_Debarments.t
00:04 jenkins_koha Starting build #25 for job Koha_Master_U12 (previous build: FIXED)
00:11 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
00:11 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
00:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #17: FIXED in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]oha_Master_D7/17/
00:11 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12462: Fix some POD errors
00:11 jenkins_koha * Yohann Dufour: Bug 12416: add the test of DelUniqueDebarment
00:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12462 trivial, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Fix some POD errors
00:11 jenkins_koha * Yohann Dufour: Bug 12416: the subroutine 'ok' is replaced by the subroutine 'is'
00:11 jenkins_koha * Yohann Dufour: Bug 12416: add new tests of DelUniqueDebarment
00:11 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12416 normal, P5 - low, ---, yohann.dufour, Pushed to Master , DelUniqueDebarment (Debarments.pm) is not tested in Borrower_Debarments.t
00:11 jenkins_koha Starting build #18 for job Koha_Master_D7 (previous build: FIXED)
00:14 pianohacker I have a crazy question for y'all. Just how many problems would it cause for me to introduce multithreading into the metasearcher I'm writing for rancor?
00:14 eythian pianohacker: it depends.
00:15 pianohacker (Given that Z39.50 searches are currently time constrained by MARC-8 -> UTF-8 conversion rather than the network.)
00:15 eythian Not a whole lot, it's done in one or two other places.
00:15 pianohacker eythian: multithreading in koha?
00:15 eythian Well, it's really just spinning off a worker thread, but it's the same thing essentially.
00:15 eythian (the processing of an uploaded MARC file)
00:16 pianohacker oh. Isn't that a fork rather than a thread, though? Would that cause problems with plack?
00:17 eythian You want to use perl threading?
00:17 pianohacker that's why I asked if I was crazy
00:18 eythian forking doesn't appear to upset plack (there were some issues with it, but they were more implementation problems.)
00:18 eythian That surprised me too.
00:18 eythian I have no particular reason to expect that plack will upset threads
00:18 eythian but
00:18 pianohacker woah. Okay then. To hell with that madness then
00:19 eythian plack processes get reaped after a certain number of requests
00:19 eythian This may or may not upset threads running in that process.
00:20 eythian However, if it doesn't, and everything interacting with the threads is thread-safe, there's probably no reason not to go that way.
00:20 pianohacker I don't think that would be a huge issue, since in theory the request won't finish until the threads are done, but if forking works with plack, I don't want to touch the rat's nest I've heard perl threading is. The only issue then is how to send data back to the server
00:20 pianohacker s/server/main process/
00:21 eythian yeah
00:22 eythian This does sound like the sort of thing that threading might be better for
00:22 eythian I've only used Perl threads once, a long time ago. It seemed to work OK.
00:23 pianohacker eythian: are there any major issues besides the wholesale data copy when the interpreter for the new thread is spawned?
00:23 eythian there's no wholesale data copy, as it's all copy-on-write
00:24 * pianohacker goes to documentation... stack overflow disagrees but it might be wrong
00:24 eythian http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]dle-multiple-fork
00:25 pianohacker oh for fork yes
00:25 eythian though a glibc fork actually ends up calling clone()
00:25 eythian I assume that perl does too
00:26 pianohacker this is the thread thing though: http://search.cpan.org/~rjbs/p[…]And_Unshared_Data
00:26 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D6 build #5: STILL UNSTABLE in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_Master_D6/5/
00:26 jenkins_koha Jesse Weaver: Bug 12393 - Depend on SSL module for LWP, for OverDrive
00:26 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12393 normal, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Pushed to Master , OverDrive does not depend on SSL modules for LWP, causing searches to fail
00:27 eythian oh right
00:27 eythian I dunno
00:27 eythian it's probably able to be smart and just duplicate the required bits.
00:28 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U14 build #23: STILL UNSTABLE in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_U14/23/
00:28 jenkins_koha Jesse Weaver: Bug 12393 - Depend on SSL module for LWP, for OverDrive
00:28 eythian Or maybe it does COW anyway, which _looks_ a lot like having your own copies
00:28 pianohacker beautiful solution to Python's GIL problem :) Guess I'll just have to benchmark and see if it's a huge issue
00:28 pianohacker ooh, I wonder.
00:31 jenkins_koha Starting build #1 for job Koha_3.12.x_D6
00:34 tcohen eythian: the mpm-itk install problem is about to be fixed on stable
00:34 eythian tcohen: how?
00:35 tcohen https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bi[…]rt.cgi?bug=734865
00:35 jenkins_koha Starting build #1 for job Koha_3.12.x_U14
00:35 eythian oh
00:35 eythian I thought you meant koha stable :)
00:35 eythian well this is good news, I wonder if Ubuntu will SRU it
00:37 pianohacker bbl dinner
00:37 eythian hmm, lunch
00:38 pianohacker woo time zones
00:39 eythian tcohen: I see no mention of it going to stable in that bug
00:39 eythian oh
00:39 eythian next stable
00:39 * eythian is not really with it today
00:51 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #18: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]oha_Master_D7/18/
00:51 jenkins_koha Jesse Weaver: Bug 12393 - Depend on SSL module for LWP, for OverDrive
00:51 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12393 normal, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Pushed to Master , OverDrive does not depend on SSL modules for LWP, causing searches to fail
00:52 jenkins_koha Starting build #1 for job Koha_3.12.x_D7
00:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x_D6 build #1: UNSTABLE in 24 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_3.12.x_D6/1/
00:56 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x_U14 build #1: UNSTABLE in 21 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]oha_3.12.x_U14/1/
00:56 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #25: SUCCESS in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_U12/25/
00:56 jenkins_koha Jesse Weaver: Bug 12393 - Depend on SSL module for LWP, for OverDrive
00:57 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12393 normal, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Pushed to Master , OverDrive does not depend on SSL modules for LWP, causing searches to fail
00:57 jenkins_koha Starting build #1 for job Koha_3.12.x_U12
00:58 rangi right, got the ok from tim, data from ero looks fine in their test db
00:58 rangi so ill load that live after lunch
00:58 rangi and that was the total wrong window :)
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01:17 eythian whatever happened to irma_963
01:18 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x_D7 build #1: UNSTABLE in 26 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_3.12.x_D7/1/
01:19 dcook pianohacker: you still around?
01:19 dcook I had some questions about how you're handling your metasearch results..
01:26 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x_U12 build #1: UNSTABLE in 29 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]oha_3.12.x_U12/1/
01:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #1 for job Koha_3.16.x_D6
01:56 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_D6 build #1: UNSTABLE in 29 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_3.16.x_D6/1/
01:56 jenkins_koha Starting build #1 for job Koha_3.14.x_D6
02:14 tcohen night "koha
02:14 tcohen byeee
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02:54 wizzyrea I am glad I am not the only one who does that
02:57 dcook Hmm?
03:29 dcook Hmm, don't know if the koha master stats are updating..
03:29 dcook It says it was though..
03:30 rangi yep they update every day
03:31 rangi and yep they are up to date
03:31 dcook Hmm, mine doesn't seem to be
03:31 dcook (As little as it is :P)
03:32 rangi last commit was may 21
03:32 rangi Author: David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au>
03:32 rangi Date:   Wed May 21 13:22:10 2014 +1000
03:32 dcook Should be June 21st, I think
03:32 dcook Wait...not 21st
03:32 rangi not in the git log of master
03:32 rangi maybe you are confusing the date it was pushed, with the date it was committed
03:32 dcook That's what I thought at first
03:33 rangi if i do a git log
03:33 dcook It was committed 2 days ago and authored 17
03:33 dcook Github has it :/
03:33 rangi on master
03:33 rangi whats the commit sha?
03:33 dcook e897e11c65d1a5cbeb5ca5bff5a83a41269588c1 according to GH
03:34 dcook June 6th
03:35 * dcook just looked it up in master as well
03:39 rangi it might have been git was overloaded when it tried to run, ill run them again manually
03:40 dcook Cool. Not that I'm trying to be angsty or anything. I just like to watch the numbers :).
04:00 dcook Thanks, rangi. That looks better :)
04:31 wizzyrea our git is getting overloaded a lot lately
04:33 pianohacker dcook: in briefly, what's up?
04:33 dcook pianohacker: How do you return your results?
04:33 dcook That is, do you organize them by connection/hostname?
04:34 pianohacker Ah, no, they're mixed together, as the sorting is across all results
04:34 dcook Hmm, so how do you know which result is from which server?
04:34 dcook Or is that irrelevant?
04:34 dcook I'm doing up a little z39.50 client that does async searches on multiple targets, and I'm pondering how best to return my results
04:35 dcook Still debating on whether or not it's important to know where they're from
04:35 eythian you pass the data around
04:35 eythian like, tuples or something
04:35 pianohacker It is labeled in the results, yeah
04:35 eythian either that or you know what worker you're fetching from, and work it out from there.
04:36 dcook pianohacker: What info do you use? Host?
04:36 dcook eythian: Yeah, I know where my results are coming from, I'm just not sure how I want to do it
04:36 dcook Whether I want to have a hash with the host, record, etc. Or if I put it into a more hierarchical hash..
04:36 pianohacker dcook: It's matched between the frontend and backend by the ID on z3950servers, so it could be displayed however. I display the description of the server though
04:37 dcook Where I just have the host as a key and then X records in a array as that hash's value
04:37 dcook key*
04:37 dcook key's value*
04:37 dcook pianohacker: Ahh, I thought that might be the case
04:37 dcook pianohacker: You pass it along with the individual record then?
04:39 pianohacker yup. Each result is a hashref (later JSONified) containing the server ID, extracted metadata fields using the koha to marc mapping, marcxml record and index within that servers's results (before sorting)
04:40 dcook (index within that server's results?)
04:40 dcook Cool beans :)
04:40 dcook I thought about doing it that way, but I wasn't sure if it would be more efficient to do that or to just have the hash key as my ID and then the array of records looked up by that.
04:41 dcook I suppose your use case is more complex though so this would be the way to do it..
04:41 pianohacker (yup)
04:41 pianohacker Yeah, it really depends if you're doing inter-target sorting
04:42 dcook (Index in what sense?)
04:42 pianohacker dcook: what is your project for?
04:42 dcook It's sort of a multi-purpose utility
04:42 pianohacker (Ah, right, overloaded word. 0-based position.)
04:42 dcook Mostly it'll be looking up holdings data for multiple targets for ILL
04:42 pianohacker ahhh gotcha
04:42 dcook (Ahhhh. That makes sense.)
04:43 dcook Actually, now that I think about it..
04:43 dcook Which projects is yours for?
04:43 dcook project*
04:44 eythian http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-1394-j <-- this explains everything
04:44 dcook pianohacker: I was looking at C4::Search, and noticed that we could potentially incorporate results from external Z39.50 targets into the Koha search results, yeah? I suppose it would take a fair bit of reworking though...
04:45 dcook eythian: lol
04:46 pianohacker 4th-dimensional connectors! They're the latest greatest thing
04:46 pianohacker dcook: this is for rancor
04:46 pianohacker dcook: That's definitely possible. Would definitely want to build it on the new APIs though
04:47 eythian pianohacker: it doesn't have to be 4 dimensional. It's just 720° around.
04:47 pianohacker "USB 4.0, so good it makes circles twice as circley"
04:54 dcook pianohacker: For sure. I'd love to at least consolidate some of our Z39.50 code, but I have the feeling it'll be quite the uphill battle..
04:55 pianohacker dcook: I managed to build the new metasearcher entirely in Koha, and in theory
04:55 pianohacker * entirely in Koha::, and in theory the Breeding API could be ported to it
04:58 pianohacker dcook: here, take a look at the code: https://github.com/pianohacker[…]a/MetaSearcher.pm
04:59 * dcook shudders at the mention of Breeding
05:02 pianohacker as you should
05:02 dcook I was thinking about trying to abstract the code out a bit more
05:03 dcook So that we'd have one sub somewhere to create ZOOM connections
05:03 pianohacker for SRU support and whatnot?
05:03 dcook I was just thinking to reduce the number of times we have the code popping up throughout Koha
05:04 pianohacker well, in theory it could appear once ;) but yes that's a good idea
05:05 dcook Same for building queries. Breeding...ugh.
05:06 dcook I noticed that we often use this syntax as well:
05:06 dcook my $connection = ZOOM::Connection->create($zoptions);
05:06 dcook $connection->connect( $server->host, $server->port );
05:06 pianohacker Yup. I actually just have the frontend send in PQF, I did not want to touch that rats nest
05:06 dcook When "my $connection = ZOOM::Connection->new($server->​host,$server->port,$zoptions);" works quite well
05:06 dcook Yeah, I build a simple PQF query at the moment with my utility
05:07 dcook Ideally, I'd like to use QueryParser more, but it needs some fixes
05:07 pianohacker like?
05:07 dcook It can't handle anything with a qualifier like ',phr'
05:07 dcook It'll do "kw" but not "kw,phr"
05:07 dcook It's relevance ranking needs some work, although that's just a bit of a time investment..
05:08 pianohacker ah, hrm. Doesn't that break parts of the frontend (for both of those)
05:08 dcook Hmm?
05:08 pianohacker the lack of qualifiers
05:08 pianohacker could have sworn I saw the search interface output those
05:09 dcook How do you mean?
05:09 dcook You can find "kw,phr", "ti,phr", etc. in the advanced search
05:09 dcook They'll work, but QP croaks and falls back to non-QP
05:10 dcook (Well silently croaks)
05:10 pianohacker ah yeah that's what I meant. Interesting. Fundamental reasons it can't, or just not implemented?
05:11 dcook As far as I know, just not implemented
05:11 dcook But I haven't looked too closely yet
05:13 pianohacker cool. Okay, I need to go to bed. Night man :)
05:28 dcook @later tell pianohacker Shouldn't --$i be $i - 1 in the following code?  "my $server = $servers[ --$i ];"
05:28 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
05:30 dcook @later tell pianohacker I think your comment is incorrect here. It should include all "errcode" AND those messages "my $exception = $server->{connection}->exception();#ignores errmsg, addinfo, diagset"
05:30 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
05:32 dcook @later tell pianohacker Nevermind about --$i I think I see now :p
05:32 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
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06:02 eythian hi cait
06:02 cait hi eythian
06:02 cait :)
06:02 dcook hey cait :)
06:02 cait hi dcook :)
06:04 cait dcook: i tink i saw that kyle made a new bug
06:04 cait only for the clubs
06:05 dcook Ahh, that would explain it a bit
06:05 cait my thought was that maybe he wanted a fresh start, also probably needs some of a rewrite by now
06:05 cait bug 12461
06:05 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12461 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Add patron clubs feature
06:08 dcook Neat
06:12 * magnuse waves
06:17 cait hm i swear i left the qa queue at 38.... last night
06:17 cait :)
06:20 magnuse and now it's 45?
06:20 cait yep
06:21 cait bgkriegel++
06:25 magnuse bgkriegel++
06:25 magnuse we should have a name for when one person holds all the 5 spots in the "Last 5 sign offs" list :-)
06:25 magnuse full house?
06:26 cait heh
06:27 cait that woudl be 2 sharing 2/3
06:27 cait maybe
06:30 dcook flush? royal flush?
06:30 dcook flush
06:30 dcook royal flush would have to be five sign offs following each other numerically
06:30 dcook Possible but highly unlikely :)
06:30 cait heh
06:30 cait @wunder Konstanz
06:30 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 18.6°C (8:30 AM CEST on June 23, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
06:31 dcook @wunder sydney, australia
06:31 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 17.0°C (4:00 PM EST on June 23, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
06:31 cait hmmm
06:31 dcook Hmm, the only downside of having the heat on in the office is that it's going to feel colder outside..
06:31 cait hmmm
06:31 cait weather here is difficult
06:32 cait hm ok, supposed to rain in the evening
06:32 magnuse @wunder boo
06:32 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on June 23, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
06:35 dcook Hmm, I dislike issues with overdues...
06:35 dcook Can't tell if someone has changed the triggers since reporting the issue as well..
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06:40 reiveune hello
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06:44 magnuse bonjour reiveune et paul_p
06:44 magnuse @wudner marseille
06:44 huginn magnuse: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
06:44 magnuse @wunder marseille
06:44 reiveune bonjour magnuse
06:44 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 19.8°C (8:44 AM CEST on June 23, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising).
06:46 cait bbiab
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06:57 magnuse bonjour yohann
06:57 yohann Salut magnuse
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07:01 magnuse bonjour alex_a och Viktor
07:01 Viktor hi magnuse
07:01 alex_a bonjour
07:29 dcook GetMarcNotes is weiiird
07:31 magnuse MARC is weird ;-)
07:31 dcook True
07:31 dcook But I was referring to the weird loop someone wrote :p
07:32 dcook Looks like it's pretty old code anyway
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08:09 paxed using zebra, when user searches for "nesbo", they should also get results for "nesbø" - how can i do that?
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08:12 magnuse there is a zebra config file for mapping characters
08:13 paxed i thought that was for search results only?
08:14 paxed if you meant etc/zebradb/lang_defs/en/sort-string-utf.chr
08:15 magnuse i *think* it might be etc/zebradb/lang_defs/<lan​code>/sort-string-utf.chr
08:16 cait hm it depends
08:16 cait when using isu
08:16 cait icu
08:16 cait you want to change the icu file and add a transliteration rule there
08:17 cait there is an example for arabic on the wiki - that should give you an idea
08:17 magnuse there is also etc/zebradb/etc/word-phrase-utf.chr
08:20 ashimema good morning #koha
08:20 cait good morning ashimema
08:21 magnuse hiya ashimema
08:27 paxed [% IF acquisition_details.total_quantity == 1 %] 1 item is on order. [% ELSE %] [% acquisition_details.total_quantity %] items are on order. [% END %]
08:27 paxed hard-coded plural forms! eeek!
08:28 cait paxed: not nice, but not sure how to do it in a better way
08:29 paxed cait: gettext supports plural forms.
08:30 paxed (of course, if i had to guess, the perl gettext implementation doesn't)
09:30 nlegrand Hey #koha!
09:33 nlegrand I'm talking to you again from older versions :). I'm testing upgrade, and i think I have a bug in 3.8.x brought by this bug : http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9046
09:33 huginn Bug 9046: critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Items are not exported with the tools/export.pl
09:34 nlegrand checkouting 3.8.x from a 3.6.x brings me this error on opac and intranet : Global symbol "$itemnumbers" requires explicit package name at /var/repositories/koha/C4/Biblio.pm line 2844.
09:34 nlegrand here is the fix (I guess), from master: http://pastebin.com/fQzPruRD
09:35 nlegrand my question is : is it worth to report it for 3.8.x ? Or should I fix it in my instance und weiter gehen?
09:35 nlegrand and go on sorry
09:54 paxed damnit. if items.renewals is zero, the slip shows NOTHING.
09:54 paxed doesn't show the 0 i would expect.
09:56 paxed eh, wut? why is items.renewals NULL?
10:06 cait nlegrand: i think 3.8 is not maintained, so it wuld be documented but not likely to get fixed
11:10 magnuse hiya khall
11:10 khall mornin magnuse!
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11:44 cait hi khall
11:44 khall mornin cait!
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12:10 nlegrand cait: ok :)
12:11 nlegrand I plan to talk about _maintained_ version soon ^^
12:11 cait :)
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12:47 tcohen morning #koha
12:47 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
12:47 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 13.0°C (9:00 AM ART on June 23, 2014). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
12:58 cait hm
12:58 cait i am trying ti omport an authority via z39.50 in 3.16.0
12:58 cait does someone know if there is a bug?
13:01 cait i have 2 authority z-targets configured
13:02 cait but the button doesn't bring up a pop up for me
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13:09 pianohacker good morning
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13:10 magnuse hiya pianohacker!
13:10 magnuse have fun, #koha!
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13:46 carmenh Hello everyone! My name is Carmen and I am a new Bywater employee. Looking forward to meeting/chatting with you all.
13:47 cait hi carmenh :)
13:47 cait what are you doing at bywater?
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13:48 edveal cait she is working…
13:49 cait edveal: you all have nice job titles, i was just curious ;)
13:49 edveal Sorry Nengard just told me not to tease you, cait :)
13:49 carmenh I am a new trainer :) ... and hello cait
13:49 cait heh
13:49 cait nice :) welcome to #koha :)
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13:50 mveron Hi #koha
13:51 cait carmenh: i work for a support provider in germany and also do some QA :)
13:51 pianohacker s/some/terrifying amounts of/
13:51 mveron cait: Regarding the authority popup: Have a look at Bug 12295 - Javascript error when merging authorities
13:51 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12295 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Javascript error when merging authorities
13:52 cait mveron: thx!
13:52 mveron Welcome :-)
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14:32 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
14:32 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
14:32 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x_D7 build #2: FIXED in 27 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_3.12.x_D7/2/
14:32 jenkins_koha Kyle M Hall: Update release notes for 3.12.13 release
14:34 cait yay :)
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14:37 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
14:37 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
14:37 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x_U12 build #2: FIXED in 30 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]oha_3.12.x_U12/2/
14:37 jenkins_koha Kyle M Hall: Update release notes for 3.12.13 release
14:40 cait khall++
14:40 cait @wunder Konstanz
14:40 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 22.4°C (4:40 PM CEST on June 23, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
14:40 cait looks like we might be getting a thunderstorm
14:41 khall we had some pretty massive thunderstorms with tornadoe here a few days ago
14:41 cait i like thunderstorms, but without the tornados please
14:41 khall hit most of northeastern US
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14:56 cait hi nengard :)
14:57 nengard hiya
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15:00 nlegrand When I said I was about to talk about modern Koha, I wasn't lying. I also propose MAJOR improvement like Bug 12466 ^^
15:00 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12466 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Bad updatedatabase.pl message for $DBversion = "3.15.00.049";
15:01 cait nlegrand: when you propose a patch or work on one, you can assign the bug to yourself :)
15:02 * cait assignes 12466 to nlegrand
15:03 nlegrand ho
15:04 nlegrand Thanks!
15:05 nlegrand But I'm not sure of what it means when a bug is assigned to you? :)
15:05 cait that you provided a patch or that you plan to work on one
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15:06 reiveune bye
15:06 cait :)
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15:06 nlegrand Ok!
15:08 nlegrand I'm quite happy, I got a snapshots of our database upgraded from 3.2 -> 3.16 right now, and it seems to work :). Let's find bugs and plug our one year custom dev! ^^
15:08 cait :)
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17:09 bag hello
17:09 wahanui hey, bag
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18:09 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12231 - Update AllowMultipleIssuesOnABiblio language <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]21094e02218f50c0c> / Bug 12086: qa-followup: remove warning on launching unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ae548727d63711a2a> / Bug 12086 - Hold priorities incorrect, when waiting status was reversed <http://git.koha-
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18:29 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11742: (QA followup) wrong number of tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]87325264390065cdd> / Bug 11742: FIX the code parameter was not take into account <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3e8bf3efd0ee16156> / Bug 11742: A letter code should be unique. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]oha.git;a=commitd
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18:56 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #19: UNSTABLE in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]oha_Master_D7/19/
18:56 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 12086 - Hold priorities incorrect, when waiting status was reversed
18:56 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12086: qa-followup: remove warning on launching unit tests
18:56 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 12231 - Update AllowMultipleIssuesOnABiblio language
18:56 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12086 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Hold priorities incorrect, when waiting status was reversed
18:56 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12231 minor, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , AllowMultipleIssuesOnABiblio description misleading
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19:10 pastebot "tcohen" at 172.16.248.212 pasted "cait: is this supposed to work?" (42 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/58
19:11 cait hola!
19:37 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
19:37 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
19:37 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #20: FIXED in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]oha_Master_D7/20/
19:37 jenkins_koha * Robin Sheat: Bug 12350 - disable apache indexes
19:37 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11742: Change return type for GetLetters
19:37 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11742: A letter code should be unique.
19:37 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11742: FIX the code parameter was not take into account
19:37 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11742: (QA followup) wrong number of tests
19:37 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12350 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Disable apache indexes on package installation by default
19:37 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11742 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Overdue notice/status triggers displaying the wrong notice for default
19:48 pastebot "tcohen" at 172.16.248.212 pasted "cait: tests" (37 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/59
19:50 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12428: (QA followup) regression tests. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7b4a846d0ad3ce44d> / Bug 12428 - "OPAC info" is not displayed in the OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d8d55b1db784ae7b2>
19:59 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
19:59 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
19:59 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #27: FIXED in 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_Master_U12/27/
19:59 jenkins_koha * Robin Sheat: Bug 12350 - disable apache indexes
19:59 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11742: Change return type for GetLetters
19:59 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11742: A letter code should be unique.
19:59 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11742: FIX the code parameter was not take into account
19:59 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11742: (QA followup) wrong number of tests
19:59 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12350 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Disable apache indexes on package installation by default
19:59 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11742 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Overdue notice/status triggers displaying the wrong notice for default
20:10 rangi morning
20:10 cait mornng rangi :)
20:12 pianohacker hi rangi
20:13 pianohacker oh. Hi cait!
20:13 rangi we are at 252 people with patches in koha now
20:13 cait hi pianohacker
20:13 pianohacker wooo!
20:13 rangi im sending a patch to update history.txt and about.tt shortly
20:13 cait rangi++
20:13 pianohacker cait: response to 10486 is coming, have been travelling
20:16 bag heya cait and rangi
20:16 cait hi bag :)
20:16 rangi heya bag, cait and pianohacker
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20:18 carmenh hello rangi :)
20:22 rangi ohhh look its carmenh !!!
20:22 nengard :)
20:23 carmenh yes sir. first official day :)
20:23 rangi for those who don't know, the first time i met nengard in person, was the same time i met carmenh
20:23 cait so where did you meet nengard the first time? :)
20:23 rangi helping nengard move into her house
20:24 nengard came all the way from NZ to help me move in!!
20:24 nengard :)
20:24 cait aah
20:24 nengard he fell asleep watching  Kitchen Nightmares
20:24 nengard No
20:24 rangi heh
20:24 nengard Hell's kitchen
20:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #21: UNSTABLE in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]oha_Master_D7/21/
20:25 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 12428 - "OPAC info" is not displayed in the OPAC
20:25 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12428: (QA followup) regression tests.
20:25 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12428 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , "OPAC info" is not displayed in the OPAC
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21:00 cait khall++ # new 3.12 release :)
21:01 rangi khall++
21:02 rangi (just the release announcement to go eh)
21:02 rangi ive noticed our dates around the releases seem to be getting a bit muddled up, it always used to be then 22nd .. now it seems a bit random (excepting kyle who pretty much hit the date)
21:03 cait yeah it#s true
21:03 rangi i hope we can get back to regular monthly maintenance releases
21:03 rangi ill bring it up in the next meeting
21:03 cait yeah, I think that'd be good
21:04 rangi is the next meeting july 2?
21:04 cait yep
21:04 cait dev meeting
21:05 rangi hmm
21:05 rangi ill add that too
21:05 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Meetings missing from here
21:05 rangi but not now
21:06 cait ah i added the page
21:06 cait i didn't find the other page and then forgot about it
21:06 rangi right added to the agenda
21:06 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ting,_2_July_2014
21:07 cait now you were faster than me
21:08 rangi carmenh: what are you doing on your first day? looking around? has nengard showed you the bots in here yet?
21:10 carmenh setting up emails, downloading programs, all that fun stuff :) …. and no to the bots :)
21:11 carmenh rangi
21:11 cait @wunder Konstanz
21:11 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 17.0°C (11:00 PM CEST on June 23, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
21:11 cait you can get wather reports from huginn
21:11 cait or when you get bored, you can get a quote
21:11 cait @quote random
21:11 huginn cait: Quote #36: "<pianohacker> first, burn the perl book" (added by jdavidb at 07:12 PM, September 25, 2009)
21:12 cait or... if you need an answer... @eightball was that right?
21:12 cait @eightball was that right?
21:12 carmenh @quote random
21:12 huginn cait: It is so.
21:12 huginn carmenh: Quote #304: "<dcook> I'm glad that it's solved and that it's open source, so I could figure it out." (added by wizzyrea at 03:44 AM, April 03, 2014)
21:12 carmenh @eightball
21:12 huginn carmenh: Of course.
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21:15 cait @wunder will take airport codes... i think also zipcodes and place names
21:15 huginn cait: Error: No such location could be found.
21:18 rangi @marc 200
21:18 huginn rangi: unknown tag 200
21:19 rangi @marc 210
21:19 huginn rangi: Contains title as abbreviated for indexing or identification. An abbreviated key title is supplied by ISSN centers, based on the Key Title (Field 222). Other abbreviated titles are supplied by cataloging agencies, including abstracting and indexing services. (Repeatable) [a,b,2,6,8]
21:19 rangi that one is quite handy
21:20 cait hmmm also ....
21:20 cait wahanui botsnack cookies
21:20 wahanui :)
21:20 cait documentation?
21:20 wahanui documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/
21:20 cait git?
21:20 wahanui git is mostly needed when you want to do development, there are packages for debian that can make my life eaiser installing it
21:21 rangi yeah buddy
21:21 wahanui https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD0mif8R9vQ
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21:25 cait rangi?
21:25 wahanui I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS!
21:25 cait heh
21:28 nengard nengard?
21:28 wahanui somebody said nengard was the queen of documentation.
21:28 nengard damn skippy :)
21:30 cait pianohacker?
21:30 wahanui pianohacker is a Dune fan, it seems.
21:30 carmenh lol thanks @cait and @rangi
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22:40 wizzyrea confetti?
22:40 wahanui confetti is http://25.media.tumblr.com/tum[…]1qh8hleo1_400.gif
22:40 wizzyrea confetti?
22:40 wahanui somebody said confetti was http://25.media.tumblr.com/tum[…]1qh8hleo1_400.gif
22:40 wizzyrea more confetti?
22:40 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'​`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'
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23:32 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12428: remove debugging leftover <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e89a0ce8a8600f112>
23:36 tcohen Oops
23:36 tcohen :-D
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