Time Nick Message 23:36 tcohen :-D 23:36 tcohen Oops 23:32 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12428: remove debugging leftover <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e497b131943b375723bffebe89a0ce8a8600f112> 22:40 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`' 22:40 wizzyrea more confetti? 22:40 wahanui somebody said confetti was http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpm3j6aNaN1qh8hleo1_400.gif 22:40 wizzyrea confetti? 22:40 wahanui confetti is http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpm3j6aNaN1qh8hleo1_400.gif 22:40 wizzyrea confetti? 21:30 carmenh lol thanks @cait and @rangi 21:30 wahanui pianohacker is a Dune fan, it seems. 21:30 cait pianohacker? 21:28 nengard damn skippy :) 21:28 wahanui somebody said nengard was the queen of documentation. 21:28 nengard nengard? 21:25 cait heh 21:25 wahanui I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! 21:25 cait rangi? 21:21 wahanui https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD0mif8R9vQ 21:21 rangi yeah buddy 21:20 wahanui git is mostly needed when you want to do development, there are packages for debian that can make my life eaiser installing it 21:20 cait git? 21:20 wahanui documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ 21:20 cait documentation? 21:20 wahanui :) 21:20 cait wahanui botsnack cookies 21:20 cait hmmm also .... 21:19 rangi that one is quite handy 21:19 huginn rangi: Contains title as abbreviated for indexing or identification. An abbreviated key title is supplied by ISSN centers, based on the Key Title (Field 222). Other abbreviated titles are supplied by cataloging agencies, including abstracting and indexing services. (Repeatable) [a,b,2,6,8] 21:19 rangi @marc 210 21:18 huginn rangi: unknown tag 200 21:18 rangi @marc 200 21:15 huginn cait: Error: No such location could be found. 21:15 cait @wunder will take airport codes... i think also zipcodes and place names 21:12 huginn carmenh: Of course. 21:12 carmenh @eightball 21:12 huginn carmenh: Quote #304: "<dcook> I'm glad that it's solved and that it's open source, so I could figure it out." (added by wizzyrea at 03:44 AM, April 03, 2014) 21:12 huginn cait: It is so. 21:12 carmenh @quote random 21:12 cait @eightball was that right? 21:12 cait or... if you need an answer... @eightball was that right? 21:11 huginn cait: Quote #36: "<pianohacker> first, burn the perl book" (added by jdavidb at 07:12 PM, September 25, 2009) 21:11 cait @quote random 21:11 cait or when you get bored, you can get a quote 21:11 cait you can get wather reports from huginn 21:11 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 17.0°C (11:00 PM CEST on June 23, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling). 21:11 cait @wunder Konstanz 21:11 carmenh rangi 21:10 carmenh setting up emails, downloading programs, all that fun stuff :) …. and no to the bots :) 21:08 rangi carmenh: what are you doing on your first day? looking around? has nengard showed you the bots in here yet? 21:07 cait now you were faster than me 21:06 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting,_2_July_2014 21:06 rangi right added to the agenda 21:06 cait i didn't find the other page and then forgot about it 21:06 cait ah i added the page 21:05 rangi but not now 21:05 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Meetings missing from here 21:05 rangi ill add that too 21:05 rangi hmm 21:04 cait dev meeting 21:04 cait yep 21:04 rangi is the next meeting july 2? 21:03 cait yeah, I think that'd be good 21:03 rangi ill bring it up in the next meeting 21:03 rangi i hope we can get back to regular monthly maintenance releases 21:03 cait yeah it#s true 21:02 rangi ive noticed our dates around the releases seem to be getting a bit muddled up, it always used to be then 22nd .. now it seems a bit random (excepting kyle who pretty much hit the date) 21:02 rangi (just the release announcement to go eh) 21:01 rangi khall++ 21:00 cait khall++ # new 3.12 release :) 20:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12428 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , "OPAC info" is not displayed in the OPAC 20:25 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12428: (QA followup) regression tests. 20:25 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 12428 - "OPAC info" is not displayed in the OPAC 20:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #21: UNSTABLE in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/21/ 20:24 nengard Hell's kitchen 20:24 rangi heh 20:24 nengard No 20:24 nengard he fell asleep watching Kitchen Nightmares 20:24 cait aah 20:24 nengard :) 20:24 nengard came all the way from NZ to help me move in!! 20:23 rangi helping nengard move into her house 20:23 cait so where did you meet nengard the first time? :) 20:23 rangi for those who don't know, the first time i met nengard in person, was the same time i met carmenh 20:23 carmenh yes sir. first official day :) 20:22 nengard :) 20:22 rangi ohhh look its carmenh !!! 20:18 carmenh hello rangi :) 20:16 rangi heya bag, cait and pianohacker 20:16 cait hi bag :) 20:16 bag heya cait and rangi 20:13 pianohacker cait: response to 10486 is coming, have been travelling 20:13 cait rangi++ 20:13 rangi im sending a patch to update history.txt and about.tt shortly 20:13 pianohacker wooo! 20:13 cait hi pianohacker 20:13 rangi we are at 252 people with patches in koha now 20:13 pianohacker oh. Hi cait! 20:12 pianohacker hi rangi 20:10 cait mornng rangi :) 20:10 rangi morning 19:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11742 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Overdue notice/status triggers displaying the wrong notice for default 19:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12350 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Disable apache indexes on package installation by default 19:59 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11742: (QA followup) wrong number of tests 19:59 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11742: FIX the code parameter was not take into account 19:59 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11742: A letter code should be unique. 19:59 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11742: Change return type for GetLetters 19:59 jenkins_koha * Robin Sheat: Bug 12350 - disable apache indexes 19:59 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #27: FIXED in 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12/27/ 19:59 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 19:59 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 19:50 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12428: (QA followup) regression tests. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=966e70e4b07d1254845748e7b4a846d0ad3ce44d> / Bug 12428 - "OPAC info" is not displayed in the OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c5602bf8136ec1d2d9f353cd8d55b1db784ae7b2> 19:48 pastebot "tcohen" at 172.16.248.212 pasted "cait: tests" (37 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/59 19:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11742 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Overdue notice/status triggers displaying the wrong notice for default 19:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12350 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Disable apache indexes on package installation by default 19:37 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11742: (QA followup) wrong number of tests 19:37 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11742: FIX the code parameter was not take into account 19:37 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11742: A letter code should be unique. 19:37 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11742: Change return type for GetLetters 19:37 jenkins_koha * Robin Sheat: Bug 12350 - disable apache indexes 19:37 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #20: FIXED in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/20/ 19:37 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 19:37 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 19:11 cait hola! 19:10 pastebot "tcohen" at 172.16.248.212 pasted "cait: is this supposed to work?" (42 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/58 18:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12231 minor, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , AllowMultipleIssuesOnABiblio description misleading 18:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12086 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Hold priorities incorrect, when waiting status was reversed 18:56 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 12231 - Update AllowMultipleIssuesOnABiblio language 18:56 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12086: qa-followup: remove warning on launching unit tests 18:56 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 12086 - Hold priorities incorrect, when waiting status was reversed 18:56 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #19: UNSTABLE in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/19/ 18:29 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11742: (QA followup) wrong number of tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c81f58a1c821905fb89016487325264390065cdd> / Bug 11742: FIX the code parameter was not take into account <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ac6af8fe21c6838f1a0b5e3e8bf3efd0ee16156> / Bug 11742: A letter code should be unique. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitd 18:09 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12231 - Update AllowMultipleIssuesOnABiblio language <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1692ab4cdf620012bd02b2c21094e02218f50c0c> / Bug 12086: qa-followup: remove warning on launching unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a717931d7dfc08d9ae283bdae548727d63711a2a> / Bug 12086 - Hold priorities incorrect, when waiting status was reversed <http://git.koha- 17:09 wahanui hey, bag 17:09 bag hello 15:08 cait :) 15:08 nlegrand I'm quite happy, I got a snapshots of our database upgraded from 3.2 -> 3.16 right now, and it seems to work :). Let's find bugs and plug our one year custom dev! ^^ 15:06 nlegrand Ok! 15:06 cait :) 15:06 reiveune bye 15:05 cait that you provided a patch or that you plan to work on one 15:05 nlegrand But I'm not sure of what it means when a bug is assigned to you? :) 15:04 nlegrand Thanks! 15:03 nlegrand ho 15:02 * cait assignes 12466 to nlegrand 15:01 cait nlegrand: when you propose a patch or work on one, you can assign the bug to yourself :) 15:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12466 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Bad updatedatabase.pl message for $DBversion = "3.15.00.049"; 15:00 nlegrand When I said I was about to talk about modern Koha, I wasn't lying. I also propose MAJOR improvement like Bug 12466 ^^ 14:57 nengard hiya 14:56 cait hi nengard :) 14:41 khall hit most of northeastern US 14:41 cait i like thunderstorms, but without the tornados please 14:41 khall we had some pretty massive thunderstorms with tornadoe here a few days ago 14:40 cait looks like we might be getting a thunderstorm 14:40 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 22.4°C (4:40 PM CEST on June 23, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 14:40 cait @wunder Konstanz 14:40 cait khall++ 14:37 jenkins_koha Kyle M Hall: Update release notes for 3.12.13 release 14:37 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x_U12 build #2: FIXED in 30 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x_U12/2/ 14:37 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 14:37 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 14:34 cait yay :) 14:32 jenkins_koha Kyle M Hall: Update release notes for 3.12.13 release 14:32 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x_D7 build #2: FIXED in 27 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x_D7/2/ 14:32 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 14:32 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 13:52 mveron Welcome :-) 13:52 cait mveron: thx! 13:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12295 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Javascript error when merging authorities 13:51 mveron cait: Regarding the authority popup: Have a look at Bug 12295 - Javascript error when merging authorities 13:51 pianohacker s/some/terrifying amounts of/ 13:51 cait carmenh: i work for a support provider in germany and also do some QA :) 13:50 mveron Hi #koha 13:49 cait nice :) welcome to #koha :) 13:49 cait heh 13:49 carmenh I am a new trainer :) ... and hello cait 13:49 edveal Sorry Nengard just told me not to tease you, cait :) 13:49 cait edveal: you all have nice job titles, i was just curious ;) 13:48 edveal cait she is working… 13:47 cait what are you doing at bywater? 13:47 cait hi carmenh :) 13:46 carmenh Hello everyone! My name is Carmen and I am a new Bywater employee. Looking forward to meeting/chatting with you all. 13:10 magnuse have fun, #koha! 13:10 magnuse hiya pianohacker! 13:09 pianohacker good morning 13:02 cait but the button doesn't bring up a pop up for me 13:01 cait i have 2 authority z-targets configured 12:58 cait does someone know if there is a bug? 12:58 cait i am trying ti omport an authority via z39.50 in 3.16.0 12:58 cait hm 12:47 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 13.0°C (9:00 AM ART on June 23, 2014). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Rising). 12:47 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 12:47 tcohen morning #koha 12:11 cait :) 12:11 nlegrand I plan to talk about _maintained_ version soon ^^ 12:10 nlegrand cait: ok :) 11:44 khall mornin cait! 11:44 cait hi khall 11:10 khall mornin magnuse! 11:10 magnuse hiya khall 10:06 cait nlegrand: i think 3.8 is not maintained, so it wuld be documented but not likely to get fixed 09:56 paxed eh, wut? why is items.renewals NULL? 09:54 paxed doesn't show the 0 i would expect. 09:54 paxed damnit. if items.renewals is zero, the slip shows NOTHING. 09:35 nlegrand and go on sorry 09:35 nlegrand my question is : is it worth to report it for 3.8.x ? Or should I fix it in my instance und weiter gehen? 09:34 nlegrand here is the fix (I guess), from master: http://pastebin.com/fQzPruRD 09:34 nlegrand checkouting 3.8.x from a 3.6.x brings me this error on opac and intranet : Global symbol "$itemnumbers" requires explicit package name at /var/repositories/koha/C4/Biblio.pm line 2844. 09:33 huginn 04Bug 9046: critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Items are not exported with the tools/export.pl 09:33 nlegrand I'm talking to you again from older versions :). I'm testing upgrade, and i think I have a bug in 3.8.x brought by this bug : http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9046 09:30 nlegrand Hey #koha! 08:30 paxed (of course, if i had to guess, the perl gettext implementation doesn't) 08:29 paxed cait: gettext supports plural forms. 08:28 cait paxed: not nice, but not sure how to do it in a better way 08:27 paxed hard-coded plural forms! eeek! 08:27 paxed [% IF acquisition_details.total_quantity == 1 %] 1 item is on order. [% ELSE %] [% acquisition_details.total_quantity %] items are on order. [% END %] 08:21 magnuse hiya ashimema 08:20 cait good morning ashimema 08:20 ashimema good morning #koha 08:17 magnuse there is also etc/zebradb/etc/word-phrase-utf.chr 08:17 cait there is an example for arabic on the wiki - that should give you an idea 08:16 cait you want to change the icu file and add a transliteration rule there 08:16 cait icu 08:16 cait when using isu 08:16 cait hm it depends 08:15 magnuse i *think* it might be etc/zebradb/lang_defs/<lancode>/sort-string-utf.chr 08:14 paxed if you meant etc/zebradb/lang_defs/en/sort-string-utf.chr 08:13 paxed i thought that was for search results only? 08:12 magnuse there is a zebra config file for mapping characters 08:09 paxed using zebra, when user searches for "nesbo", they should also get results for "nesbø" - how can i do that? 07:32 dcook Looks like it's pretty old code anyway 07:31 dcook But I was referring to the weird loop someone wrote :p 07:31 dcook True 07:31 magnuse MARC is weird ;-) 07:29 dcook GetMarcNotes is weiiird 07:01 alex_a bonjour 07:01 Viktor hi magnuse 07:01 magnuse bonjour alex_a och Viktor 06:57 yohann Salut magnuse 06:57 magnuse bonjour yohann 06:46 cait bbiab 06:44 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 19.8°C (8:44 AM CEST on June 23, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising). 06:44 reiveune bonjour magnuse 06:44 magnuse @wunder marseille 06:44 huginn magnuse: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 06:44 magnuse @wudner marseille 06:44 magnuse bonjour reiveune et paul_p 06:40 reiveune hello 06:35 dcook Can't tell if someone has changed the triggers since reporting the issue as well.. 06:35 dcook Hmm, I dislike issues with overdues... 06:32 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on June 23, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 06:32 magnuse @wunder boo 06:32 cait hm ok, supposed to rain in the evening 06:31 cait weather here is difficult 06:31 cait hmmm 06:31 dcook Hmm, the only downside of having the heat on in the office is that it's going to feel colder outside.. 06:31 cait hmmm 06:31 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 17.0°C (4:00 PM EST on June 23, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). 06:31 dcook @wunder sydney, australia 06:30 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 18.6°C (8:30 AM CEST on June 23, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). 06:30 cait @wunder Konstanz 06:30 cait heh 06:30 dcook Possible but highly unlikely :) 06:30 dcook royal flush would have to be five sign offs following each other numerically 06:30 dcook flush 06:30 dcook flush? royal flush? 06:27 cait maybe 06:27 cait that woudl be 2 sharing 2/3 06:26 cait heh 06:25 magnuse full house? 06:25 magnuse we should have a name for when one person holds all the 5 spots in the "Last 5 sign offs" list :-) 06:25 magnuse bgkriegel++ 06:21 cait bgkriegel++ 06:20 cait yep 06:20 magnuse and now it's 45? 06:17 cait :) 06:17 cait hm i swear i left the qa queue at 38.... last night 06:12 * magnuse waves 06:08 dcook Neat 06:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12461 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Add patron clubs feature 06:05 cait bug 12461 06:05 cait my thought was that maybe he wanted a fresh start, also probably needs some of a rewrite by now 06:05 dcook Ahh, that would explain it a bit 06:04 cait only for the clubs 06:04 cait dcook: i tink i saw that kyle made a new bug 06:02 cait hi dcook :) 06:02 dcook hey cait :) 06:02 cait :) 06:02 cait hi eythian 06:02 eythian hi cait 05:32 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded. 05:32 dcook @later tell pianohacker Nevermind about --$i I think I see now :p 05:30 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded. 05:30 dcook @later tell pianohacker I think your comment is incorrect here. It should include all "errcode" AND those messages "my $exception = $server->{connection}->exception();#ignores errmsg, addinfo, diagset" 05:28 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded. 05:28 dcook @later tell pianohacker Shouldn't --$i be $i - 1 in the following code? "my $server = $servers[ --$i ];" 05:13 pianohacker cool. Okay, I need to go to bed. Night man :) 05:11 dcook But I haven't looked too closely yet 05:11 dcook As far as I know, just not implemented 05:10 pianohacker ah yeah that's what I meant. Interesting. Fundamental reasons it can't, or just not implemented? 05:10 dcook (Well silently croaks) 05:09 dcook They'll work, but QP croaks and falls back to non-QP 05:09 dcook You can find "kw,phr", "ti,phr", etc. in the advanced search 05:09 dcook How do you mean? 05:08 pianohacker could have sworn I saw the search interface output those 05:08 pianohacker the lack of qualifiers 05:08 dcook Hmm? 05:08 pianohacker ah, hrm. Doesn't that break parts of the frontend (for both of those) 05:07 dcook It's relevance ranking needs some work, although that's just a bit of a time investment.. 05:07 dcook It'll do "kw" but not "kw,phr" 05:07 dcook It can't handle anything with a qualifier like ',phr' 05:07 pianohacker like? 05:07 dcook Ideally, I'd like to use QueryParser more, but it needs some fixes 05:06 dcook Yeah, I build a simple PQF query at the moment with my utility 05:06 dcook When "my $connection = ZOOM::Connection->new($server->host,$server->port,$zoptions);" works quite well 05:06 pianohacker Yup. I actually just have the frontend send in PQF, I did not want to touch that rats nest 05:06 dcook $connection->connect( $server->host, $server->port ); 05:06 dcook my $connection = ZOOM::Connection->create($zoptions); 05:06 dcook I noticed that we often use this syntax as well: 05:05 dcook Same for building queries. Breeding...ugh. 05:04 pianohacker well, in theory it could appear once ;) but yes that's a good idea 05:03 dcook I was just thinking to reduce the number of times we have the code popping up throughout Koha 05:03 pianohacker for SRU support and whatnot? 05:03 dcook So that we'd have one sub somewhere to create ZOOM connections 05:02 dcook I was thinking about trying to abstract the code out a bit more 05:02 pianohacker as you should 04:59 * dcook shudders at the mention of Breeding 04:58 pianohacker dcook: here, take a look at the code: https://github.com/pianohacker/koha/blob/rancor-submit/Koha/MetaSearcher.pm 04:55 pianohacker * entirely in Koha::, and in theory the Breeding API could be ported to it 04:55 pianohacker dcook: I managed to build the new metasearcher entirely in Koha, and in theory 04:54 dcook pianohacker: For sure. I'd love to at least consolidate some of our Z39.50 code, but I have the feeling it'll be quite the uphill battle.. 04:47 pianohacker "USB 4.0, so good it makes circles twice as circley" 04:47 eythian pianohacker: it doesn't have to be 4 dimensional. It's just 720° around. 04:46 pianohacker dcook: That's definitely possible. Would definitely want to build it on the new APIs though 04:46 pianohacker dcook: this is for rancor 04:46 pianohacker 4th-dimensional connectors! They're the latest greatest thing 04:45 dcook eythian: lol 04:44 dcook pianohacker: I was looking at C4::Search, and noticed that we could potentially incorporate results from external Z39.50 targets into the Koha search results, yeah? I suppose it would take a fair bit of reworking though... 04:44 eythian http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-1394-j <-- this explains everything 04:43 dcook project* 04:43 dcook Which projects is yours for? 04:43 dcook Actually, now that I think about it.. 04:42 dcook (Ahhhh. That makes sense.) 04:42 pianohacker ahhh gotcha 04:42 dcook Mostly it'll be looking up holdings data for multiple targets for ILL 04:42 pianohacker (Ah, right, overloaded word. 0-based position.) 04:42 dcook It's sort of a multi-purpose utility 04:42 pianohacker dcook: what is your project for? 04:42 dcook (Index in what sense?) 04:41 pianohacker Yeah, it really depends if you're doing inter-target sorting 04:41 pianohacker (yup) 04:41 dcook I suppose your use case is more complex though so this would be the way to do it.. 04:40 dcook I thought about doing it that way, but I wasn't sure if it would be more efficient to do that or to just have the hash key as my ID and then the array of records looked up by that. 04:40 dcook Cool beans :) 04:40 dcook (index within that server's results?) 04:39 pianohacker yup. Each result is a hashref (later JSONified) containing the server ID, extracted metadata fields using the koha to marc mapping, marcxml record and index within that servers's results (before sorting) 04:37 dcook pianohacker: You pass it along with the individual record then? 04:37 dcook pianohacker: Ahh, I thought that might be the case 04:37 dcook key's value* 04:37 dcook key* 04:37 dcook Where I just have the host as a key and then X records in a array as that hash's value 04:36 pianohacker dcook: It's matched between the frontend and backend by the ID on z3950servers, so it could be displayed however. I display the description of the server though 04:36 dcook Whether I want to have a hash with the host, record, etc. Or if I put it into a more hierarchical hash.. 04:36 dcook eythian: Yeah, I know where my results are coming from, I'm just not sure how I want to do it 04:36 dcook pianohacker: What info do you use? Host? 04:35 eythian either that or you know what worker you're fetching from, and work it out from there. 04:35 pianohacker It is labeled in the results, yeah 04:35 eythian like, tuples or something 04:35 eythian you pass the data around 04:35 dcook Still debating on whether or not it's important to know where they're from 04:34 dcook I'm doing up a little z39.50 client that does async searches on multiple targets, and I'm pondering how best to return my results 04:34 dcook Or is that irrelevant? 04:34 dcook Hmm, so how do you know which result is from which server? 04:34 pianohacker Ah, no, they're mixed together, as the sorting is across all results 04:33 dcook That is, do you organize them by connection/hostname? 04:33 dcook pianohacker: How do you return your results? 04:33 pianohacker dcook: in briefly, what's up? 04:31 wizzyrea our git is getting overloaded a lot lately 04:00 dcook Thanks, rangi. That looks better :) 03:40 dcook Cool. Not that I'm trying to be angsty or anything. I just like to watch the numbers :). 03:39 rangi it might have been git was overloaded when it tried to run, ill run them again manually 03:35 * dcook just looked it up in master as well 03:34 dcook June 6th 03:33 dcook e897e11c65d1a5cbeb5ca5bff5a83a41269588c1 according to GH 03:33 rangi whats the commit sha? 03:33 rangi on master 03:33 dcook Github has it :/ 03:33 dcook It was committed 2 days ago and authored 17 03:33 rangi if i do a git log 03:32 dcook That's what I thought at first 03:32 rangi maybe you are confusing the date it was pushed, with the date it was committed 03:32 rangi not in the git log of master 03:32 dcook Wait...not 21st 03:32 dcook Should be June 21st, I think 03:32 rangi Date: Wed May 21 13:22:10 2014 +1000 03:32 rangi Author: David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au> 03:32 rangi last commit was may 21 03:31 dcook (As little as it is :P) 03:31 dcook Hmm, mine doesn't seem to be 03:31 rangi and yep they are up to date 03:30 rangi yep they update every day 03:29 dcook It says it was though.. 03:29 dcook Hmm, don't know if the koha master stats are updating.. 02:57 dcook Hmm? 02:54 wizzyrea I am glad I am not the only one who does that 02:14 tcohen byeee 02:14 tcohen night "koha 01:56 jenkins_koha Starting build #1 for job Koha_3.14.x_D6 01:56 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_D6 build #1: UNSTABLE in 29 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_D6/1/ 01:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #1 for job Koha_3.16.x_D6 01:26 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x_U12 build #1: UNSTABLE in 29 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x_U12/1/ 01:19 dcook I had some questions about how you're handling your metasearch results.. 01:19 dcook pianohacker: you still around? 01:18 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x_D7 build #1: UNSTABLE in 26 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x_D7/1/ 01:17 eythian whatever happened to irma_963 00:58 rangi and that was the total wrong window :) 00:58 rangi so ill load that live after lunch 00:58 rangi right, got the ok from tim, data from ero looks fine in their test db 00:57 jenkins_koha Starting build #1 for job Koha_3.12.x_U12 00:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12393 normal, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Pushed to Master , OverDrive does not depend on SSL modules for LWP, causing searches to fail 00:56 jenkins_koha Jesse Weaver: Bug 12393 - Depend on SSL module for LWP, for OverDrive 00:56 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #25: SUCCESS in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12/25/ 00:56 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x_U14 build #1: UNSTABLE in 21 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x_U14/1/ 00:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x_D6 build #1: UNSTABLE in 24 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x_D6/1/ 00:52 jenkins_koha Starting build #1 for job Koha_3.12.x_D7 00:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12393 normal, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Pushed to Master , OverDrive does not depend on SSL modules for LWP, causing searches to fail 00:51 jenkins_koha Jesse Weaver: Bug 12393 - Depend on SSL module for LWP, for OverDrive 00:51 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #18: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/18/ 00:39 * eythian is not really with it today 00:39 eythian next stable 00:39 eythian oh 00:39 eythian tcohen: I see no mention of it going to stable in that bug 00:38 pianohacker woo time zones 00:37 eythian hmm, lunch 00:37 pianohacker bbl dinner 00:35 eythian well this is good news, I wonder if Ubuntu will SRU it 00:35 eythian I thought you meant koha stable :) 00:35 eythian oh 00:35 jenkins_koha Starting build #1 for job Koha_3.12.x_U14 00:35 tcohen https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=734865 00:34 eythian tcohen: how? 00:34 tcohen eythian: the mpm-itk install problem is about to be fixed on stable 00:31 jenkins_koha Starting build #1 for job Koha_3.12.x_D6 00:28 pianohacker ooh, I wonder. 00:28 pianohacker beautiful solution to Python's GIL problem :) Guess I'll just have to benchmark and see if it's a huge issue 00:28 eythian Or maybe it does COW anyway, which _looks_ a lot like having your own copies 00:28 jenkins_koha Jesse Weaver: Bug 12393 - Depend on SSL module for LWP, for OverDrive 00:28 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U14 build #23: STILL UNSTABLE in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U14/23/ 00:27 eythian it's probably able to be smart and just duplicate the required bits. 00:27 eythian I dunno 00:27 eythian oh right 00:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12393 normal, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Pushed to Master , OverDrive does not depend on SSL modules for LWP, causing searches to fail 00:26 jenkins_koha Jesse Weaver: Bug 12393 - Depend on SSL module for LWP, for OverDrive 00:26 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D6 build #5: STILL UNSTABLE in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D6/5/ 00:26 pianohacker this is the thread thing though: http://search.cpan.org/~rjbs/perl-5.18.2/pod/perlthrtut.pod#Shared_And_Unshared_Data 00:25 eythian I assume that perl does too 00:25 eythian though a glibc fork actually ends up calling clone() 00:25 pianohacker oh for fork yes 00:24 eythian http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13813636/how-does-copy-on-write-in-fork-handle-multiple-fork 00:24 * pianohacker goes to documentation... stack overflow disagrees but it might be wrong 00:23 eythian there's no wholesale data copy, as it's all copy-on-write 00:23 pianohacker eythian: are there any major issues besides the wholesale data copy when the interpreter for the new thread is spawned? 00:22 eythian I've only used Perl threads once, a long time ago. It seemed to work OK. 00:22 eythian This does sound like the sort of thing that threading might be better for 00:21 eythian yeah 00:20 pianohacker s/server/main process/ 00:20 pianohacker I don't think that would be a huge issue, since in theory the request won't finish until the threads are done, but if forking works with plack, I don't want to touch the rat's nest I've heard perl threading is. The only issue then is how to send data back to the server 00:20 eythian However, if it doesn't, and everything interacting with the threads is thread-safe, there's probably no reason not to go that way. 00:19 eythian This may or may not upset threads running in that process. 00:19 eythian plack processes get reaped after a certain number of requests 00:18 pianohacker woah. Okay then. To hell with that madness then 00:18 eythian but 00:18 eythian I have no particular reason to expect that plack will upset threads 00:18 eythian That surprised me too. 00:18 eythian forking doesn't appear to upset plack (there were some issues with it, but they were more implementation problems.) 00:17 pianohacker that's why I asked if I was crazy 00:17 eythian You want to use perl threading? 00:16 pianohacker oh. Isn't that a fork rather than a thread, though? Would that cause problems with plack? 00:15 eythian (the processing of an uploaded MARC file) 00:15 eythian Well, it's really just spinning off a worker thread, but it's the same thing essentially. 00:15 pianohacker eythian: multithreading in koha? 00:15 eythian Not a whole lot, it's done in one or two other places. 00:15 pianohacker (Given that Z39.50 searches are currently time constrained by MARC-8 -> UTF-8 conversion rather than the network.) 00:14 eythian pianohacker: it depends. 00:14 pianohacker I have a crazy question for y'all. Just how many problems would it cause for me to introduce multithreading into the metasearcher I'm writing for rancor? 00:11 jenkins_koha Starting build #18 for job Koha_Master_D7 (previous build: FIXED) 00:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12416 normal, P5 - low, ---, yohann.dufour, Pushed to Master , DelUniqueDebarment (Debarments.pm) is not tested in Borrower_Debarments.t 00:11 jenkins_koha * Yohann Dufour: Bug 12416: add new tests of DelUniqueDebarment 00:11 jenkins_koha * Yohann Dufour: Bug 12416: the subroutine 'ok' is replaced by the subroutine 'is' 00:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12462 trivial, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Fix some POD errors 00:11 jenkins_koha * Yohann Dufour: Bug 12416: add the test of DelUniqueDebarment 00:11 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12462: Fix some POD errors 00:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #17: FIXED in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/17/ 00:11 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 00:11 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 00:04 jenkins_koha Starting build #25 for job Koha_Master_U12 (previous build: FIXED) 00:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12416 normal, P5 - low, ---, yohann.dufour, Pushed to Master , DelUniqueDebarment (Debarments.pm) is not tested in Borrower_Debarments.t 00:03 jenkins_koha * Yohann Dufour: Bug 12416: add new tests of DelUniqueDebarment 00:03 jenkins_koha * Yohann Dufour: Bug 12416: the subroutine 'ok' is replaced by the subroutine 'is' 00:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12462 trivial, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Fix some POD errors 00:03 jenkins_koha * Yohann Dufour: Bug 12416: add the test of DelUniqueDebarment 00:03 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12462: Fix some POD errors 00:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #24: FIXED in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12/24/ 00:03 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 00:03 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!