Time Nick Message 00:10 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 00:10 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 00:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #22: FIXED in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/22/ 00:10 jenkins_koha Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12428: remove debugging leftover 00:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12428 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , "OPAC info" is not displayed in the OPAC 00:19 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 00:19 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 00:19 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #29: FIXED in 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12/29/ 00:19 jenkins_koha Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12428: remove debugging leftover 00:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12428 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , "OPAC info" is not displayed in the OPAC 00:41 dcook eythian: Around for a quick Devel::NYTProf question? 00:41 dcook Ah, nevermind 00:41 dcook http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Profiling_with_Devel::NYTProf 00:41 dcook to the rescue 00:47 eythian dcook: fixed it for you :D 00:48 dcook eythian: Hmm? 00:50 dcook Was it not right? 00:51 eythian no, your question. 00:54 dcook Hmm, the wiki didn't quite help in any case :/ 01:00 dcook Think I see the problem.. 01:01 dcook :S 01:06 * dcook would love to know how it's an invalid option when it's in the documentation.. 01:07 dcook Mm just bad wiki instructions me thinks 01:07 eythian different version perhaps? 01:08 dcook SetEnv NYTPROF=file=/tmp/nytprof.out:out:addpid=1:endatexit=1:stmts=0 01:08 dcook Probably should be: 01:08 dcook SetEnv NYTPROF "file=/tmp/nytprof.out:addpid=1:endatexit=1:stmts=0" 01:08 dcook The versions were the same (at least between my installed module and the doco) 01:09 eythian ah yep, that seems like an error 01:09 dcook I think it was parsing that first "=" as the value 01:11 dcook Hmm now how do I want to view these results.. 01:13 dcook Ooo pretty 01:34 dcook Whelp. That was interesting. Yay for being able to use Devel::NYTProf now :D 01:35 eythian It's useful 01:35 dcook I would love to know more about its color coding.. 01:36 dcook How it decides what's green, yellow, red 01:36 dcook salmon 01:37 eythian I'm guessing it works out some limits and colours accordingly 01:37 dcook But according to what? :/ 01:40 eythian the range of values it gets overall? 01:41 dcook Hmm, but then you'd always be in the red, no? 01:43 dcook Although I suppose that could make sense.. 01:43 dcook In fact, that's probably it 01:43 tcohen night #koha 01:44 dcook night tcohen 01:44 dcook Because there probably isn't any predictable way of measuring performance absolutely... 01:45 eythian well, it's not an accuracy problem. It's just you want to light up the ones that take the longest so they can be optimised the most. 01:46 dcook Exactly 01:47 dcook For instance, it appears I'm using XML::SAX::PurePerl on this server 01:47 dcook Probably should be using somethign else 01:50 dcook Although it'll always probably be a bit of a time suck 01:50 dcook I think ZOOM is what's killing me, but that's what I need to use. Might be able to optimise it a bit but suppose I don't want to waste time micro-optimising either. 01:51 eythian optimise what'll make the biggest difference. 02:15 dcook ncip? 02:15 wahanui i heard ncip was NISO, SIP is 3M 02:15 dcook ncip? 02:15 wahanui rumour has it ncip is NISO, SIP is 3M 02:30 * dcook wonders what the flag "GNA" stands for in circulation.pl 02:33 rangi gone no address 02:36 dcook Hmm...don't know how I'd never seen that one before 02:36 * dcook looks again 02:36 dcook And there it is right there :) 02:43 dcook Do folks have ideas about the $inprocess argument for CanBookBeIssued? 02:44 dcook Seems like it's set after AddIssue.. 02:44 rangi yep 02:44 rangi it means a session with a borrower is in process 02:45 rangi which will let them go over the threshold to stop issuing, if they started below it 02:45 rangi say they owe $8, the threshold is $10 they have 1 dvd that costs $2 and 5 books that are free 02:45 rangi without inprocess, dvd is issued, and bam, they cant get out the books anymore 02:46 dcook Ahhh, interesting 02:46 dcook Thanks for filling me in, rangi :) 02:47 rangi no worries 03:56 eythian eww, this code has an 'unless ... else ...' structure. I always find them really hard to understand. 03:57 dcook eythian: What are you looking at? 03:57 eythian plugins-home.tt 03:58 * cait waves 03:58 dcook Ooo nested unlesses. Fun times. 03:58 eythian yeah 03:58 eythian there's no call for that sort of ugliness. 03:58 eythian hi cait 03:58 cait hi eythian 03:58 cait you too discussing search code again? 03:59 cait you two... 03:59 cait hm i stil can't type... 03:59 eythian no 03:59 eythian just some ugly code in plugins-home.tt 03:59 dcook yo cait 03:59 dcook 'tis ugly 03:59 eythian (nested unless ... else ... type things.) 03:59 cait ah 03:59 cait but it was sitll a good guess... :) 04:01 eythian plugins don't seem to be working in 3.14 for me 04:01 * eythian attempts to find out why 04:03 * dcook can't say that he's tried, although he hadn't turned it on in koha-conf.xml either 04:05 cait hm pref, koha-conf.xml and permission? 04:08 eythian no, the plugin uploads but never shows up as available. 04:12 cait hm and the path in koha-conf is right? 04:12 cait hm if ituploads... 04:13 cait i haen't played muchwith it really :( 04:14 eythian I have, and it worked seamlessly 04:21 cait eythian: hope you can figure it out 04:44 eythian looks like a broken dependency somewhere. 04:44 dcook "O 04:44 dcook :O * 04:45 wizzyrea dcook: have you heard of people unable to stage marc imports in IE? 04:45 * dcook ponders 04:45 dcook Maybe 04:45 wizzyrea 3.12-ish 04:45 dcook But I can't recall for sure 04:45 dcook We skipped 3.12 so not sure 04:46 dcook I haven't heard anything recently but it's possible none of our folk on IE have tried it recently 04:46 wizzyrea cool 04:46 wizzyrea just thought I'd ask 04:46 dcook no worries :) 04:46 eythian OK, something (and I can't tell what) needed Class::ISA 05:51 * magnuse waves 05:51 dcook yo magnuse 05:52 magnuse kia ora dcook 06:12 cait hm 06:12 cait i have to go to work 06:12 cait and it won't stop raining 06:14 cait of course... it just got worse 06:14 * dcook had a feeling it would 06:14 * dcook looks outside 06:14 dcook I'm not saying anything 06:14 dcook @wunder sydney, australia 06:14 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 16.0°C (4:00 PM EST on June 24, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). 06:15 magnuse @wunder boo 06:15 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0°C (7:50 AM CEST on June 24, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Rising). 06:26 ashimema morning #koha 06:26 eythian hi ashimema 06:26 ashimema @wunder steveange, uk 06:26 huginn ashimema: Error: No such location could be found. 06:26 ashimema @wunder stevenange, uk 06:26 huginn ashimema: Error: No such location could be found. 06:26 eythian @wunder nzwn 06:26 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (6:00 PM NZST on June 24, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). 06:26 ashimema @wunder stevenage, uk 06:26 huginn ashimema: The current temperature in Monkswood, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 13.2°C (7:26 AM BST on June 24, 2014). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). 06:26 ashimema third time lucky ;) 06:27 eythian don't even know how to spell where you are eh? :) 06:27 ashimema it's early... 06:27 ashimema ;) 06:27 * dcook is barely coherent at 7:30am 06:27 ashimema that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it :p 06:27 ashimema hwos it going eythian, dcook 06:27 dcook Plodding along. You, ashimema? 06:28 eythian fairly well, though really busy, which is keeping me from ES work right now. 06:28 dcook :( 06:29 ashimema Pretty good, though also completely run off my feet busy.. not had a chance to really look at anything koha related for weeks now :( 06:30 ashimema just been reading up... is there a repository of plugins anywhere.. I've still not played with the plugin system and it's about time I do at some point. 06:31 * dcook has no clue 06:31 dcook That would be neat though I think 06:31 dcook I want to say that we thought about it at one point but rejected the idea as it might seem to be that the plugins would be endorsed when we had no guarantee about them 06:32 magnuse plugins? 06:32 wahanui plugins are just enabled or disabled with Wordpress, aren't they? 06:33 magnuse i think bywater has a kind of list, but it's short 06:33 magnuse http://bywatersolutions.com/koha-plugins/ 06:34 dcook Yeah, I think those are the original ones 06:36 magnuse probably 06:37 eythian we just have a plugin for EBSCO EDS integration that ebsco wrote. 06:38 ashimema it's a starting place anyways 06:38 eythian though I think the plugin system needs a richer API, it's a useful start. 06:38 ashimema anywho.. i'de best go get the daughter some breakfast. 06:38 ashimema see you all in a bit. 06:38 eythian Yeah, tim efor me to head off too 06:38 eythian later 06:40 magnuse have fun eythian 06:40 dcook later ashimema 06:40 dcook ta eythian 06:40 dcook Yeah, the plugin system needs to be a bit richer... 06:40 dcook And the EBSCO EDS plugin needs to be updated... 06:41 * dcook isn't a huge fan so far 06:45 reiveune hello 06:45 wahanui privet, reiveune 06:53 magnuse i think the idea was to start small with the plugins system, in orderto not create too many security problems at once? :-) 06:58 dcook true true 06:59 paxed what? why are we getting 404 if the last item is marked as missing? 06:59 paxed (404 in opac, that is) 07:02 paxed ...and waitingreserves.pl doesn't consider close dates at all?! 07:02 paxed closed* 07:08 cait hello #koha 07:08 cait :) 07:18 dcook Hmm GetMember requires a hash rather than a hashref...and GetMemberDetails returns true even if the borrowernumber doesn't exist..bleargh 07:18 gaetan_B hello 07:18 dcook hey gaetan_B 07:18 wahanui it has been said that gaetan_B is working at Biblibre and did the nice new start page together with asaurat or a fan of icons 07:18 dcook (hey also to cait) 07:24 fridolin hie all 07:24 fridolin I plan to release 3.14.08 today : cooking the pie ;) 07:26 magnuse yay! :-) 07:37 cait hi gaetan_B :) 07:38 gaetan_B fun fact (just revealed by fridolin) : 07:38 gaetan_B if your latest items in the items table have numbers 100,101 and 102, you delete 101 and 102 and then restart mysql 07:38 gaetan_B you have items with itemnumber 101 and 102 in deleteditems 07:39 gaetan_B but your next items in the items table will have itemnumbers 101 and 102 07:39 gaetan_B or maybe not so much fun fact ;) 07:41 fridolin that's why the dump file contains the last increment 07:44 binu hi getting an error in zebra rebuild. can anyone help? 07:49 nlegrand Hey #koha! 07:50 nlegrand binu: maybe :) just ask 08:15 binu SUBMITTING FOR HELP:-) 08:15 binu [13:28] <binu> hi [13:30] <binu> running koha 3.14.06 on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS [13:30] <nlegrand> ho why don't you ask on main channel ? [13:30] <binu> ok [13:31] <nlegrand> anyway feel free to ask :) [13:31] <nlegrand> I'm not sure I'll be able to answer, but who knows? ^^ [13:31] <binu> created a new instance and upgraded a data of 3.10 into it. [13:32] <binu> since search was not working on this new instance after upgradation. i did koha-rebuild-zebra -f [13: 08:17 binu [13:34] <binu> it gave an error after 10 min or so with the message "Something went wrong rebuilding biblio indexes for nehu" [13:34] <binu> what do i need to check? [13:34] <binu> nehu is the instance name> [13:36] <nlegrand> I don't know, I'm not using debian commands, you should ask on main [13:36] <nlegrand> channel [13:37] <nlegrand> but you could first add the -v flag [13:37] <nlegrand> maybe a little bit more verbosity will help :) [13:40] <binu> i di 08:23 ashimema try -f -v on the above command.. 08:23 ashimema should give you a bit more output for us to work with. 08:46 ashimema I must work out how to stop the joins/departes messages in this irc client. 08:47 ashimema their drowning out any real chat at the moment. 08:47 binu ashimema - if you find any solution for this IRC, kindly do let me know. 09:07 magnuse i say 09:26 ashimema any dbic peeps around..? 09:26 ashimema getting an error thrown out from one of my scripts 09:26 ashimema Argument "" isn't numeric in numeric eq (==) at /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/DBIx/Class/Row.pm line 992. 09:27 ashimema and have no idea how to trace it back further.. 09:27 ashimema wondered if anyone had come across it before. 09:40 magnuse what does that line in Row.pm do? 12:03 nlegrand what could prevent a document searchable on the intranet from being searchable on the OPAC? 12:03 nlegrand (on a 3.16 koha for those affraid I'm talking about 3.2 again ^^) 12:19 nlegrand erf, found it, they are marked as 'suppressed' from OPAC search result... 12:25 drojf hi #koha 12:27 khall question: does anyone else get "server gone away" errors when running db dependent unit test on master? 12:27 khall cait: gmcharlt ^ 12:43 cait khall: not so far hm. 12:43 cait some specific test? 12:44 khall I get them with "perl t/db_dependent/Circulation.t" 12:44 khall can you try that on the latest master cait? 12:47 pianohacker ashimema: Try putting 'use Carp::Always;' at the top of one of your scripts 12:48 pianohacker you might have to install it but it will give you a traceback for most everything 12:48 cait not right now - sorry 12:48 cait my installation is set up at 'not quite master' that i have here and i am in the middle of testing something 12:48 pianohacker khall: funny story, I was dealing with that exact error on master, blamed it on the multiprocess stuff I'm doing 12:49 khall pianohacker: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12472 12:49 huginn 04Bug 12472: normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Unit Tests failing with "MySQL server has gone away" 12:49 pianohacker well son of a gun. 12:50 pianohacker khall++ 12:51 tcohen khall++ 12:52 pianohacker khall: I think that's exactly what my problem is. Did that previous commit at least fix the issue of Koha::Database and DBI connecting separately so the transaction stuff didn't work? 12:52 khall yes, the issue was the followup removing Koha::Storage 12:52 khall tcohen: can you test and confirm? 12:53 pianohacker cool. so after fixing some fallout, things are better. Excellent! 12:53 khall tcohen: I never see the errors mentioned in the patch for the followup to bug 11891 that removes Koha::Storage 12:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11891 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Make Koha::Schema use C4::Context->dbh 12:53 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12427: Allow execution of UTs on a DB with issues <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0310acf425c35e7a30a96da2130044cd0d7b86f5> / Bug 12427: adding unit tests of module C4::Members::Attributes.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=486f3a3edaf0ecbb841f98e6854f7ca0968ecb2d> / Bug 11292 [QA Followup] - Use noEnterSubmit instead of new keypress handler <http://git.k 12:54 pianohacker @more 12:54 huginn pianohacker: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more. To do so, call this command with that person's nick. 12:55 pianohacker ah, right, that would have broken since we killed off the jquery hotkeys plugin 14:25 tcohen can anyone tell me the option switches needed for running rebuild_zebra.pl in daemon mode? 14:26 tcohen background indexing? 14:29 tcohen huginn: background indexing is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Background_indexing_with_Zebra 14:29 huginn tcohen: I suck 14:31 pianohacker wrong bot tcohen ;) 14:34 tcohen which is the right one? 14:34 tcohen jenkins_koha isn't 14:36 pianohacker wahanui, I think 14:36 tcohen ahhh, its offline 14:36 tcohen @later tell wahanui we miss you 14:36 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 14:39 pianohacker oh shoot :( 15:04 reiveune bye 15:20 * cait states that she hates overdues. 15:26 cait what i am seeing here makes no sense at all :( 15:28 Joubu cait: have to go. But you can open a bug report and assign it to me if you find a bug on overdues 15:28 Joubu I love them... 15:28 Joubu good night 15:29 cait bye Joubu 15:29 cait i might have to... when i can figure out waht it's doing there 15:39 bag good morning y'all 15:54 jenkins_koha Starting build #3 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) 16:09 cait good morning bag 16:10 bag good morning cait 16:22 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #3: STILL UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/3/ 16:22 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12226: (regression tests) Check_Userid should always consider the DB user not unique 16:22 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 12226 - A user with the database username/userid can access staff with full permissions 16:22 jenkins_koha * Fridolin Somers: Bug 12458 - Holidays calendar has wrong colors for weekly and yearly repeatable 16:22 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 12255 - Amazon cover images have useless image alt text in bootstrap 16:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12226 is not accessible. 16:22 jenkins_koha * Zeno Tajoli: Bug 12299: Translate marc21_relatorterms.sql into Italian 16:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12458 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Holidays calendar has wrong colors for weekly and yearly repeatable 16:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12255 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Amazon cover images have useless image alt text in bootstrap 16:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12299 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , SQL setup (MARC21), translation of relators codes - Italian 16:28 cait hm 16:28 cait i am trying to wrap my mind around overdues... 16:28 cait would be happy if somene could take a look at bug 11704 16:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11704 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Stable , Wrong headers in {opac|intranet}/svc/report 16:28 cait hm not that wone 16:28 cait bug 12473 16:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12473 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Overdue notices listing wrong items 16:29 cait i am not sure if it's me or Koha :) 16:39 jenkins_koha Starting build #4 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) 16:40 fridolin bye 16:44 gaetan_B bye ! 17:07 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #4: STILL UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/4/ 17:07 jenkins_koha Yohann Dufour: Bug 12379: remove double use of plugin KohaDates 17:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12379 minor, P5 - low, ---, yohann.dufour, Pushed to Stable , Double use of module KohaDates 17:09 tcohen ashimema: i've refactored bug 8773 so it uses rebuild_zebra.pl -daemon 17:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup 17:48 pianohacker Is there anyone here who is familiar with UNIMARC that can speak to the accuracy of http://www.loc.gov/marc/unimarctomarc21.html ? If it's correct it seems tremendously useful 17:55 pianohacker @later tell magnuse it looks like the 005 update logic in ModBiblioMarc (roughly line 3404 in master) might need to be updated to apply to NORMARC as well. Is this true? 17:55 huginn pianohacker: The operation succeeded. 17:58 ashimema nice work tcohen.. I try and find the time to take a look at it tomorrow. 17:59 tcohen i'll try to build a package for testing purposes 18:00 pianohacker ashimema: were you able to fix your dbic error? 18:00 * cait waes 18:00 cait hm 18:00 * cait waves 18:00 cait bbl :) 18:00 tcohen o/ 18:00 pianohacker bye cait 18:01 ashimema painohacker.. 18:01 tcohen hahah 18:01 ashimema yeah.. I didn't fend a better way to narrow it down.. but an educated guess lead me to the problem. 18:01 ashimema was passing in an empty field where I should have been passing in a number.. 18:01 pianohacker Ahh kk. Makes sense 18:02 ashimema I kinda like dbic now.. though it's kinda hard to get your head around at first. 18:03 ashimema I'm working with dbic for another product at the mo though.. can't wait to get to grips with it in koha. 18:03 pianohacker yeah, most definitely 18:03 pianohacker Makes a lot of tasks much much easier 18:05 ashimema Certianly does.. though grasping how joins work is proving interesting. 18:05 tcohen do we have coding guidelines for DBIx? 18:05 ashimema currently trying to work out how to sensibly do lookup tables in dbic. 18:05 ashimema not that i've spotted really.. 18:06 ashimema gmchalt was aiming ot do a few example for people to follow at some point. 18:06 ashimema gmcharlt was aiming ot do a few example for people to follow at some point. 18:06 * ashimema manic typos 18:07 pianohacker ashimema: lookup tables? 18:07 ashimema Yeah.. 18:08 ashimema when you have two related tables with a many to many relationship.. you get them allot in normalised dataases.. 18:08 ashimema so.. the 'lookup table' contains table1id, table2id only pretty much.. 18:08 ashimema so is the way to match up the many to many relationship between two tables. 18:09 ashimema in my example.. we've got 'lists' and a list can have many 'items'.. but of course.. those 'items' can be on many different 'lists'.. so there's a listItems lookup table in the middle. 18:10 ashimema but they don't play very nicely with dbic in my current understanding. 18:12 pianohacker ashimema: http://search.cpan.org/~danieltwc/DBIx-Class-0.07002/lib/DBIx/Class/Manual/Cookbook.pod#Many-to-many_relationships , no? 18:13 ashimema indeed.. that's currently what I'm working my way through ;) 18:13 ashimema or rather.. waht I was untill i had to go start working on somthing else in the middle. 18:15 drojf @later tell cait ping mich mal für einen lacher 18:15 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded. 18:16 pianohacker ashimema: okay, just wanted to make sure we were talking about the same thing 18:19 ashimema there's a Lookuptables addition for dbic too.. which I beleive does some clever caching. 18:19 ashimema hense my confusion overall. 19:07 * cait waves 19:48 tcohen bye #koha 21:19 eythian hi 21:26 cait hi again eythian 21:29 eythian hi cait 21:39 bag hi cait and eythian 21:39 eythian hi bag 21:41 bag heya 21:42 bag anyone no if you can run SIP for koha on a separate machine? I haven't done it yet or trying it 21:42 bag and that first no should be know 21:42 bag trying should be tried it 21:42 eythian you mean, have the SIP server on another machine? 21:42 bag yes sir 21:42 bag like one server web services, one database, and one SIP 21:43 eythian Presumably you can if it still talks to the same database, though it's possible there'd be some caching issues. However they're being found and fixed all the time. 21:44 eythian I see no reason why you couldn't, anyway. 21:44 larryb heya eythian 21:44 eythian hi larryb 21:45 larryb have you ever heard of situation where the connections to the available sip processes had maxed but it *doesn't* start another process? 21:45 eythian I haven't seen that, but I don't actually know if our connections get maxed out anyway. 21:46 larryb okay thanks. 21:46 larryb we have an odd situation where it *seems* like the number of connections is maxing out, but it never creates a new process to handle the load. It doesn't even use the child processes. 21:47 eythian that seems weird 21:47 larryb yeah I know 21:47 eythian Actually, I'm not totally sure that SIP is supposed to create new processes, is it? 21:50 eythian oh, I see 21:50 eythian it should up to max_requests 21:50 eythian max_servers rather 21:51 larryb yeah, that's the thing. we have startup set to 30 and max_servers set to 60, but the total number of SIP processes NEVER goes above 31. 21:51 larryb so it's not even using the 10 child processes we have set 21:52 larryb the current version of Net::Server::PreFork is 2.008 (in cpan), but the Debian package version is 0.98 so we're going to try upgrading Net::Server::PreFork and see if that makes a difference. 21:52 eythian Might be worth trying 21:53 larryb fingers crossed 21:54 larryb well, thanks 22:09 tcohen anyone from openlx here? 22:10 tcohen that's what I thought 22:15 tcohen no link to the community site http://www.openlx.com/koha.html 22:16 cait is this a new one? 22:16 tcohen i'm not sure, i was reading the Koha Users & Developers linkedin group messages 22:17 cait hm it lists edi 22:17 cait as a feature... 22:17 cait and ncip 22:17 cait and stop words 22:18 eythian and GPL V2 22:18 tcohen yeah 22:18 cait hm the koha logo in the footer is not linked to the community site 22:18 cait but to a contact form 22:18 cait idon't find a link :( 22:19 tcohen looks like the community is little involved in that linkedin group 22:19 cait ah 22:20 cait it's in the pull down on top 22:20 cait in the navigation 22:20 eythian yeah, just found that too 22:21 tcohen http://ukutabs.com/s/sublime/santeria/ 22:21 tcohen oops 22:21 cait :) 22:21 cait practicing? :) 22:22 tcohen learning :-D 22:22 tcohen gotta start with familiar songs I guess 22:22 * eythian is sceptical about your taste in music :) 22:23 tcohen haha 22:23 tcohen you're right 22:23 tcohen i have a punk background 22:24 tcohen but i listen almost anything 22:24 tcohen love mgmt, air, explosions in the sky, ramones, bad religion... 22:25 tcohen i'm learning songs for my to-be-born son anyway 22:25 tcohen :-D 23:02 eythian tcohen: hey, with that DBIx thing, did you see if just dropping the version from wheezy into squeeze worked? 23:03 eythian if so, then that'll make life a bit easier. 23:12 tcohen will give it a try 23:12 tcohen good idea 23:46 dcook Always think of tcohen when I hear explosions in the sky 23:46 * dcook is reading scrollback 23:47 dcook The wife just got a uke...tempting to get one myself... 23:47 dcook Of course, I really want to play Iron Maiden's The Trooper on it...not sure how well that will go 23:47 dcook Might want to start with Twinkle Twinkle Little Star to start... 23:47 dcook eythian: Do you play anything? 23:48 eythian I play a mean MP3 player. 23:51 dcook hehe 23:51 dcook Yeah, I'm about the same 23:51 dcook Once upon a time, I played piano and violin, but pretty sure I have no idea about either anymore. 23:51 dcook Metal on the uke is a goal though... 23:51 ibeardslee has been done many times 23:52 dcook I was just about to say there must be thousands of youtube videos, ibeardslee ;) 23:52 dcook I mostly just want to do it for personal enjoyment 23:52 eythian http://youtu.be/KPb20fK0R94 <-- did I post this here already? 23:52 ibeardslee I don't know enough about music to convert things into banjo tabs 23:53 dcook I don't think so but I'm clicking now 23:54 wizzyrea tcohen I didn't realise you were expecting sprog! 23:54 wizzyrea more kohababies yay! 23:54 tcohen sprog? 23:55 tcohen we are deprecating sporg 23:55 tcohen *sprog 23:55 * dcook didn't realize that tcohen was having a sprog either 23:55 tcohen wizzyrea: not many people knew 23:55 dcook eythian: This is great 23:55 dcook wizzyrea: There might be a Sydney-based kohababy in the coming years.. 23:55 wizzyrea squee! 23:56 tcohen a kohababy named Manuel actually :-D 23:56 eythian aiming for a documentation manager? ;) 23:56 tcohen heh 23:58 pastebot "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "math (or banking/politics)" (14 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/60 23:58 dcook I saw this morning and can't help but reshare it 23:59 * dcook thought it was actually rather clever