IRC log for #koha, 2014-03-18

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03:06 wajasu hmm
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03:30 mtompset ARG! Got distracted again.
03:30 wajasu ha
03:42 mtompset I'm working on 11213 now, wajasu.
03:44 wajasu well, so many folks spinning on the search.
03:45 mtompset And only one of me. :)
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03:46 mtompset I figure some good will come out of all of this. :)
03:46 mtompset Greetings, Oak.
03:46 mtompset Thanks for accepting the friend request. :)
03:46 Oak hello mtompset :)
03:46 Oak it's my pleasure. thanks for sending the request :)
03:47 Oak it's great to have #koha friends on Facebook
03:50 wajasu the real issue after my patch is it requires reading through all the result biblios when building facets to get exact counters.  bug 11232 is what i should have worked on.
03:50 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11232 new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Retrieve facets from Zebra
04:40 mtompset yes. sucks to figure that out after the fact.
04:41 mtompset Anyone here know how to trigger virtual shelves code?
04:59 mtompset AH! Lists.
05:00 mtompset Well, I need sleep.
05:00 mtompset Have a great day, #koha wajasu Oak.
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07:36 reiveune hello
07:38 cait hi reiveune :)
07:38 cait bbl
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07:40 * magnuse waves
07:58 jenkins_koha Starting build #22 for job Koha_3.14.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
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08:02 magnuse bonjour Joubu
08:02 Joubu salut magnuse
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08:17 cait good morning #koha
08:18 magnuse kia ora cait!
08:18 magnuse ooh bug 11944
08:18 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8
08:19 cait hi magnuse :)
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08:21 magnuse bonjour sophie_m
08:23 sophie_m bonjour magnuse
08:24 * magnuse wonders if it would be a good idea to have "module maintainers" for the different languages under installer/data/mysql/
08:26 magnuse at least for the smaller languages
08:35 magnuse ooh De Montpellier à Lyon du 6 au 14 août 2014
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08:41 fridolin1 hie all
08:45 magnuse bonjour fridolin1
08:45 magnuse[…]awesome-services/
08:46 ashimema mtomptset, regarding bug 11869.. it wasn't me to fail it.. not seen the bug before i'm afraid.
08:46 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11869 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Failed QA , Add more informations to the member printing pages.
08:47 ashimema morning all
08:49 cait morning :)
08:51 magnuse hiya ashimema
08:51 cait @later tell mtompset - Aleisha Amohia != ashimema, but one of the academy students
08:51 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
08:51 * magnuse hopes everyone had a good journey home from the hackfest
08:52 cait all worked out well, but felt long in the end :)
08:52 ashimema cheers cait
08:53 ashimema monin' magnuse. Good journey home for me.. though UK customs wre on high alert so it took a while to get through the airport
08:53 ashimema hope your was uneventful :)
08:59 magnuse it was. 50 minutes delay from AMS to OSL, but we had a ~6 hour stop in OSL so it did not matter at all :-)
08:59 magnuse and the approach to bodø was the most beautiful one i have ever had
09:00 magnuse it's cold here, though...
09:00 magnuse @wunder boo
09:00 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -7.0°C (9:50 AM CET on March 18, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -15.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady).
09:05 ashimema yikes that's cold
09:05 ashimema @wunder stevenage, uk
09:05 huginn ashimema: The current temperature in Monkswood, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 10.1°C (9:05 AM GMT on March 18, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
09:05 ashimema feels warmer than that here too.. T-Shirt weather :)
09:08 * magnuse sighs
09:08 magnuse nah, 'tis rather pretty here, with the snow and the sun and the clear blue sky...
09:19 Joubu magnuse++
09:19 Joubu for[…]lle_hackfest_2014
09:20 Joubu I have just discovered it!
09:20 Joubu but I am wondering if it would be good to have "pushed to master" too
09:24 magnuse probably
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09:24 magnuse i have just copied the numbers from the dashboard
09:33 Joubu magnuse: I added "43 bugs pushed to master"
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09:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.14.x build #22: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.14.x/22/
09:41 jenkins_koha David Cook: Bug 11502: make library filter in "Holds To Pull" more precise
09:41 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11502 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Branch filter in "Holds To Pull" is too fuzzy
09:42 jenkins_koha Starting build #23 for job Koha_3.14.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
09:44 magnuse Joubu: cool!
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09:49 cait :)
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10:04 nlegrand Hey #koha o/
10:09 magnuse hiya alex_a_ paul_p nlegrand
10:09 alex_a_ hi magnuse
10:09 wahanui hi magnuse are you spending much time in oslo?
10:10 paul_p hi magnuse. safe back home ?
10:13 cait hi nlegrand and paul_p :)
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10:26 cait magnuse: are you a Koha ninja? :)
10:36 magnuse nope, i'm afraid not
10:37 magnuse paul_p: yes, arrived on schedule yesterday
10:37 magnuse kohaprofile has a new home:
10:39 cait :)
10:40 cait magnuse++
10:44 ashimema magnuse++
10:44 ashimema very nice!
10:45 ashimema I hope to have a chance to play with that soon.. adding it to my QA process sounds like a good plan
10:48 magnuse ashimema: cool!
10:48 magnuse it's just a POC now, but maybe we can grow it into something useful
10:50 ashimema Deffo.. looks like a great start
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10:52 nlegrand magnuse: cool
11:00 magnuse anyone looked at the unicode stuff from Joubu and dpavlin yet?
11:05 Joubu magnuse: did you have a look at scripts in misc/load_testing/benchmark_*?
11:07 magnuse Joubu: no, not really, but it would be cool if they could be combined with my script, to run them on a series of git commits
11:07 Joubu magnuse: yes, that could be quite easy.
11:08 magnuse patches welcome ;-)
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11:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.14.x build #23: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.14.x/23/
11:25 jenkins_koha * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 9210: wrap long lines in printed hold notices
11:25 jenkins_koha * Francesca Moore: Bug 11522: improve formating of self-registration form
11:25 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 7143: Updating about page and history
11:25 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7143: add another name to the about page
11:25 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9788: Improvements when calling GetReservesFromItemnumber
11:25 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9788: (follow-up) removing the alldates parameter from GetReservesFromItemnumber
11:25 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9210 major, P5 - low, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Stable , Automatic carriage return are missing in print letters generated for holds
11:25 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9788: (follow-up) for expirationdate in
11:25 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9788: QA followup
11:25 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11522 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , self registration formatting
11:25 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9788: (follow-up) Unit tests for changed routine GetReservesFromItemnumber
11:25 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 9788: (follow-up) update the bootstrap theme
11:25 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
11:25 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9788 minor, P5 - low, ---,, Pushed to Stable , Improvements for calling GetReservesFromItemnumber
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11:33 magnuse Viktor++
11:40 cait @wunder Konstanz
11:40 huginn cait: The current temperature in Bodensee, Lake Constance Germany, Daisendorf, Germany is 16.0°C (12:39 PM CET on March 18, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
11:40 francharb hi #koha
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12:15 dpavlin on current master, it seems that zebra search in opac dies with ZOOM error 20003 "can't set prefix query" - is there existing bug for that?
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12:17 cait dpavlin!
12:17 wahanui Taking over the world is trivial for this one...
12:17 cait dpavlin: ugh, haven't seen that yet
12:17 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8168: (follow-up) Use semicolon as default CSV delimiter <[…]42b9624cbfe652a61> / Bug 8168: Fixing header of non CSV files for overdue notices <[…]1c26c2d8f8fc36dfb>
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12:17 cait are you using queryparser?
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12:18 oleonard Hi #koha
12:18 cait hi oleonard :)
12:19 cait gmcharlt++
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12:24 jenkins_koha Starting build #392 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
12:28 jenkins_koha Starting build #1667 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
12:30 wajasu dpavlin: bug 5615 might given you a lead.
12:30 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5615 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, gmcharlt, CLOSED DUPLICATE, ZOOM error 20003 "can't set prefix query" on some authority searches
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12:52 magnuse druthb!
12:52 wahanui Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
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12:56 druthb Hi, magnuse. :)
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13:02 * oleonard wishes he could go work on Koha in Oslo!
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13:06 magnuse oleonard: that would have been awesome!
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13:09 * jcamins does too!
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13:11 oleonard At least you're qualified jcamins ;)
13:13 jcamins oleonard: except for the whole not-speaking-Norwegian thing. And, probably, not being an EU citizen.
13:13 oleonard Details, details
13:15 magnuse not-speaking-norwegian is not an issue
13:15 magnuse please direct any enquiries to the person indicated in the blogpost :-)
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13:21 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #392: SUCCESS in 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/392/
13:21 jenkins_koha * daniel: Bug 8168: Fixing header of non CSV files for overdue notices
13:21 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8168: (follow-up) Use semicolon as default CSV delimiter
13:21 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8168 minor, P5 - low, ---,, Pushed to Master , ersatz CSV header in attachment of overdue notices sent to administrator
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13:25 tcohen airbnb++
13:25 tcohen morning
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13:38 * BT slaps alohalog` around a bit with a large fishbot
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13:57 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
13:58 wajasu hiya
13:58 mtompset @later tell cait. Thanks for the clarification.
13:58 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
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14:02 wajasu another facets counter idea:
14:02 pastebot "wajasu" at pasted "facet counters correct with more mysql indexes and less db queries" (39 lines) at
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14:05 magnuse less_db_queries++
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14:13 cait mtompset: i am here ;)
14:14 mtompset Hard to know sometimes, when you are so quiet. :)
14:19 cait i am only here when at least close to a computer :)
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14:26 * magnuse chides cait for nor irc'ing telepathically
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14:28 cait ... sorry :(
14:28 fridolin back, we had a network break
14:28 cait wb fridolin :)
14:28 oleonard I'll be the mailing list Google Glass guy is IRC'ing on his Google Glasses right now :P
14:29 fridolin cait: what does "wb" mean ?
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14:30 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1667: SUCCESS in 2 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1667/
14:30 jenkins_koha * daniel: Bug 8168: Fixing header of non CSV files for overdue notices
14:30 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8168: (follow-up) Use semicolon as default CSV delimiter
14:30 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8168 minor, P5 - low, ---,, Pushed to Master , ersatz CSV header in attachment of overdue notices sent to administrator
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14:30 atheia Hello Kohaites
14:31 oleonard fridolin: It means "welcome back"
14:31 fridolin thanks, I'm noob on irc ;)
14:32 magnuse wb is "welcome back"
14:32 magnuse wb?
14:32 wahanui i think wb is welcome back
14:32 magnuse right you are, wahanui
14:32 wahanui OK, magnuse.
14:38 mtompset wb is also :)
14:38 wahanui okay, mtompset.
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14:48 barton morning all!
14:51 barton Is there any documentation of how bugs in bugzilla link to
14:53 gmcharlt not quite sure what you mean
14:53 gmcharlt you can do
14:53 gmcharlt[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=XXX
14:53 huginn Bug XXX: could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
14:53 gmcharlt to link to bug XXX
14:54 gmcharlt if you add a comment to a bug, the phase "bug XXX" will get hyperlinked
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14:54 barton Are individual bugs tagged?
14:54 magnuse barton: what do you mean by "tagged"?
14:55 barton as in, are there git tags created for bugs.
14:56 barton the same way that you would tag a release.
14:56 gmcharlt no
14:56 cait network_fail--
14:56 gmcharlt mainly, there is a convention that the first line of a commit message will contain the bug number
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14:58 barton how would I figure out patch dependencies?
14:59 gmcharlt the "depends on" and "blocks" fields in a BZ report are often used to express dependencies
14:59 barton gmcharlt++
14:59 cait there is also a tree view
14:59 cait if you look there
15:00 barton cait: that sounds useful -- where would I find it?
15:01 cait there is a link when a bug has a dependency
15:01 cait[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9016 < example
15:01 huginn Bug 9016: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Multi transport types for notices
15:01 barton oic: dependency tree /graph.
15:01 cait[…]graph.cgi?id=9016
15:02 barton cait++
15:02 * cait waves at gmcharlt :)
15:02 * gmcharlt waves back
15:03 cait when does the conf start?
15:03 gmcharlt there's a preconference today, but the conf proper starts tomorrow
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15:12 * magnuse wanders off to make dinner
15:14 cait ah, have fun :)
15:16 wajasu what if i code it so i get correct facet counts with a certain syspref set size maxResultsRetrievedForFacets, and retrieve/inspect those raw records for facet counters.  if the results set size is > than that max, i just don't show facet counters.
15:17 wajasu that could take care of the common result set case most of the time if the max is set at 1000, and could be adjusted for big hardware sites.
15:19 wajasu if my library had a small inventory, and endusers, i might just inspect all raw() records, but if my site is huge (millions), but have big hardware, i might just set max to 10000.
15:20 wajasu and are we using, or does zebra employ libmemcached?
15:21 wajasu to cache the result set records in RAM.
15:23 wajasu a 1million 16K marcxmls might be around 16GB, and a big library could run with large amount of ram these days.
15:30 mtompset No idea...
15:31 mtompset barton: Sometimes people forget to set those fields up, read all the comments. ;)
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15:46 markvandenborre I'm tring to install koha here for the first time, on Debian wheezy
15:46 cait hi markvandenborre
15:47 markvandenborre ah, I found some more info
15:48 cait you should look for apackage installation
15:48 cait if you want to test Koha that's the easiest way
15:48 cait packages?
15:48 wahanui packages is, like, at
15:48 markvandenborre I already saw that info
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15:48 markvandenborre but either there is something missing or something wrong
15:48 markvandenborre I also found[…]LL.debian;hb=HEAD
15:50 markvandenborre but it seems is more up to date
15:50 markvandenborre and cleaner
15:50 cait hm not sure where you ran into a problem
15:50 cait but someone here might be able to help
15:50 markvandenborre that document seems to suggest that some basic installation interface will be available
15:51 markvandenborre some web interface, so presumably on port 8080 as per that document
15:52 markvandenborre but this is the output of netstat -tan:
15:52 markvandenborre
15:52 cait hm not sure if you run the web installer with packages
15:52 cait but i think you do
15:52 cait sorry, i can't read netstat
15:53 cait the web installer woudl be the very last step
15:53 cait and he url is the url of the staff interface
15:53 cait and i think what that is depends on how you set up the conf file used by the packages
15:54 mtompset markvandenborre: Your netstat doesn't have port 80 listening.
15:54 mtompset oh there it is... nevermind. :)
15:54 markvandenborre yeah, ipv6...
15:54 mtompset Why is it only tcpip6?
15:54 markvandenborre by default on wheezy, it seems...
15:55 markvandenborre it will listen on v4 also, but for some reason it doesn't show up
15:55 mtompset but the mysql is on tcp? Strange.
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15:57 cait hey khall!
15:57 markvandenborre mtompset: the debian package instructions are somewhat unclear...
15:57 cait congratulations! :)
15:57 markvandenborre * Listen on port 8080: $EDITOR /etc/apache2/ports.conf
15:57 markvandenborre without any context...
15:58 mtompset e3xcuse me... chauffeur duty.
15:58 markvandenborre so should I just reconfigure apache to listen on 8080 like that? I guess so...
15:58 cait markvandenborre: you already created your instance, right?
15:59 markvandenborre yes, and apparently I missed the reference in the wiki to this readme document
15:59 cait and you didn't create a koha-sites.conf
15:59 markvandenborre no, not yet
15:59 cait ah
15:59 cait before you can go to the web installer
15:59 * barton waves at khall
15:59 cait you have to create the instance
15:59 markvandenborre it's not clear to me at this point in the process if I have to disable apache listening on port 80
16:00 cait sorry, i might be getting confused here :)
16:00 cait you need both
16:00 cait 80 and 8080
16:00 wahanui 8160
16:00 markvandenborre ok
16:00 markvandenborre wahanui: :-)
16:00 wahanui markvandenborre: sorry...
16:00 cait 80 is the opac = public catalog
16:00 cait 8080 is the web installer and the staff interface, where you do circulation and all things librarians do
16:00 markvandenborre thx for mentioning that
16:01 markvandenborre I realised I would need that eventually, but the koha side is still a bit of a black box to me
16:01 cait wahanui is our beloved bot - don't let him irritate you
16:03 markvandenborre cait: bot or not, thought he was quite funny
16:03 markvandenborre :-)
16:04 markvandenborre when the web installer asks me for a user and pass
16:04 markvandenborre (I was probably asked to enter something yesterday evening when fiddling with it)
16:04 markvandenborre is that the sql user and pass?
16:04 markvandenborre or the biblioserver user and pass?
16:05 barton markvandenborre: I've been working with koha for about 4 months now -- it is presently a very dark grey box. If I hold a *really* brigh light up to it, I find that it is vaguely translucent.
16:05 markvandenborre or something else?
16:05 markvandenborre barton: thank you for the encouragement :p
16:06 markvandenborre aha, the sql user and pass!
16:06 cait it's in the koha-conf.xml
16:06 cait did you find it?
16:07 barton Actually, that's not true... there are parts of it that are fairly transparent.
16:07 cait sounds a bit like the description of an art object :)
16:07 markvandenborre yes, I did
16:08 barton markvandenborre: try
16:08 markvandenborre I figure there is some i18n support for koha
16:08 markvandenborre I did
16:08 markvandenborre it worked :p
16:08 markvandenborre I should definitely update the wiki too...
16:09 barton egrep '^..(user|pass|database)' koha-conf.xml
16:09 barton this will give you the username and password to log into koha.
16:09 markvandenborre yeah, did that, the only confusion was between the two different ones that are in there
16:09 markvandenborre so I tried both, and one set (the sql set) worked
16:10 markvandenborre what about i18n? is there some magic step I need to perform to make other options than English appear?
16:10 cait kind of
16:10 cait try and look for the koha-translate command :)
16:11 tcohen cait: could you try to register for kohacon14 and tell me if it works? :-D
16:12 cait hehe
16:12 cait as a test i could - if you remove me again after?
16:12 tcohen hmm
16:12 tcohen the trick didn't work
16:13 markvandenborre hm, seems to indicate the most important stuff is translated
16:13 cait what language are you looking for?
16:13 barton markvandenborre: the port settings are in koha-httpd.conf.
16:13 barton just in case you were wondering.
16:14 cait barton: the wiki says if you don't create one it defaults to 8080 and 80 - i think that's what happened here, but haven't used the packages much yet myself :(
16:14 cait but tcohen is a packages expert!
16:14 cait *hides*
16:14 markvandenborre cait: nl, dutch
16:14 cait ah
16:14 cait i think that shoudl work
16:14 markvandenborre now I just need to check how to make koha understand the po/mo files files
16:15 cait markvandenborre: look for koha-translate
16:15 markvandenborre looking at it
16:15 wahanui looking at it is exactly what I was hoping for. :)
16:15 cait you don't need to more than run it with the right laguage code
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16:16 barton cait: I've never done a package install myself. (Thinks that perhaps I should try this in my copius free time)
16:17 markvandenborre cool, it's working
16:18 barton markvandenborre: wunderbar! (deutsch not duch, but hey, they're related)
16:18 ashimema barton.. you should deffo play with packages.. they rock
16:19 cait markvandenborre: cool :)
16:19 cait going to catch the last bits of sun, cya later all
16:19 ashimema enjoy cait
16:19 reiveune bye
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16:20 barton has anyone seen eythian?
16:20 tcohen @later tell wizzyrea I need to add recaptcha or something to the form, its been on for some minutes and got several SPAM
16:20 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
16:20 markvandenborre marc21 or unimarc?
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16:21 markvandenborre I seem to remember one is more common in .eu, the other in .us
16:21 markvandenborre ?
16:21 * markvandenborre is reading through wikipedia
16:21 barton markvandenborre: marc21: US.
16:21 markvandenborre does it make sense for me then to do unimarc?
16:21 markvandenborre (.be)
16:22 markvandenborre as in: one or the other dialect better supported in koha?
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16:22 markvandenborre I'm playing with this for a public music school library
16:22 barton not sure off hand.
16:22 barton where is '.be'?
16:22 markvandenborre Belgium, that tiny spot around Brussels
16:23 barton aha.
16:23 markvandenborre ok, guess I'll go with unimarc
16:23 barton I've never worked with unimarc, so I'll let others chime in there.
16:24 barton @seen eythian
16:24 huginn barton: eythian was last seen in #koha 18 hours, 19 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <eythian> hi cait
16:25 markvandenborre I notice there's a few things marked as "mandatory"
16:25 markvandenborre in step 3 - selecting default settings
16:25 barton @later tell eythian ping me when you get in. Repeatedly ;-)
16:25 huginn barton: The operation succeeded.
16:25 markvandenborre Defines default message transports for sending item due messages and
16:25 markvandenborre advance notice messages through email and SMS.
16:25 markvandenborre (sample_notices_message_transports)
16:25 markvandenborre stuff like that
16:25 wahanui stuff like that is why I want to chew people's legs off sometimes
16:26 markvandenborre most of this library is digital anyway, so not sure about it
16:26 markvandenborre calm down, wahanui-san, even if you're a bot
16:26 markvandenborre I'm a vegetarian, you wouldn't find much interesting flesh on my bones :p
16:26 barton heh.
16:27 oleonard No no, it's the vegetarians who are especially delicious.
16:28 markvandenborre ouch :p
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16:31 harry hello i made a recent installation of koha. when i tried to access the admin page via lynx it takes me to the maintenance page . kindly advice . thanks
16:33 Joubu harry: update your database with perl installer/data/mysql/en/ or go on the staff interface
16:34 harry joubu > is that the command i can use in the terminal to update
16:36 Joubu harry: is it a question?
16:36 mtompset markvandenborre: Did you get your problem solved?
16:36 Joubu harry: go on your staff interface
16:36 Joubu ok...
16:37 markvandenborre mtompset: I got it installed, had to create a library, a patron category, then myself in the admin interface
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16:37 vfernandes hi :)
16:37 mtompset Good. Because I was going to suggest reading the Ubuntu instructions for clarity. ;)
16:37 markvandenborre koha _might_ be a bit overkill for our situation, but I'm not dealing with this $&#! iTunes thing anymore
16:37 vfernandes it's possible to know the new features/developments for Koha 3.16?
16:38 markvandenborre my predecessor (praise be unto him?) thought it was a good idea to dump all pdfs of the school library into iTunes
16:38 mtompset WHAT?!
16:38 markvandenborre then he noticed he couldn't scale sharing of that over 5 computers
16:39 markvandenborre so he started manually walking around with a usb stick for the metadata (he did manage to use a network share for the actual data)
16:39 markvandenborre but then he bumped into a problem...
16:39 markvandenborre different versions of iTunes don't speak the same metadata language
16:39 mtompset DOH!
16:39 markvandenborre so he started to do some kind of strange export
16:40 markvandenborre that he can't seem to reproduce anymore
16:40 markvandenborre so the school library would still work on the old machines with an older iTunes version
16:40 markvandenborre that was only part of my inheritance
16:40 markvandenborre other things being a boss who thinks 250€ a year for backups of the school administration is a lot of money
16:41 markvandenborre part of the cabling working only at 10Mbit half duplex
16:41 markvandenborre the optical uplink to the rest of the city being quite shoddy
16:42 markvandenborre etcetera
16:42 mtompset Breath deeply.
16:42 markvandenborre safe to say, koha could only be an improvement over this
16:42 mtompset 856$u.
16:42 mtompset 856$u.
16:42 mtompset host the PDF's somewhere.
16:42 mtompset 856$u.
16:42 mtompset :)
16:43 markvandenborre 856$U. ?
16:43 wahanui 856$u is settable.
16:43 mtompset It's a MARC field that stores a URI.
16:43 mtompset So, you search in the OPAC.
16:43 mtompset Get a result.
16:43 mtompset Look at the result detail.
16:44 mtompset Click on the link (generated by the 856$u).
16:44 mtompset And BAM, you have your PDF. :)
16:44 mtompset oh wait...
16:44 mtompset you chose unimarc?
16:45 mtompset It might not be the same them.
16:45 mtompset I'm used to MARC21. :)
16:45 markvandenborre mtompset: still, thank you for the hint
16:46 mtompset Anyone want an easy sign off? bug 11253. ;)
16:46 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11253 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , tools/ output_pref ignores 'iso' parameter passed
16:49 markvandenborre mtompset: trying to find my way around it
16:49 vfernandes it's possible to know the new features/developments for Koha 3.16??
16:49 mtompset documentation?
16:49 wahanui somebody said documentation was at
16:50 mtompset That may help, markvandenborre.
16:51 mtompset also,[…]/tutorial-videos/
16:56 * markvandenborre is looking into providing an easy, minimal interface for our library worker to deal with
16:56 markvandenborre minimal, as in: don't want her to see any field she doesn't need to use
17:00 markvandenborre but an ISMN field for example would be really useful to have
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17:09 harry i am done installing koha and i tried to use lynx to access the admin page and that redirected me to maintenance page . please advice
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17:11 markvandenborre harry: 17:33:33 < Joubu> harry: update your database with perl installer/data/mysql/en/ or go on the staff interface                                                         clrh
17:11 markvandenborre I'm sorry I can't help you much further than that, but I guess that means go to port 8080
17:11 markvandenborre and log in there
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17:13 harry <markvandenborre> do you mean i can use my regular broswer from another computer instead of lynx to configure the staff client for the first time
17:16 mtompset harry: Only if the other machine knows how to browse to your server.
17:16 mtompset A lot of people don't have the DNS set up at that time.
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17:18 indradg hi all
17:19 indradg need a spot of help
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17:20 indradg i'm wrestling with the script, and something funky is happening my issues tables in the old db has ~13k entries after running the script, the *new* issues table only has ~8k entries
17:21 indradg structurally the old 2.2.5 issues and new 3.14 issues tables are almost identical except for the 'issuedate' field in the new one
17:21 harry <mtompset> is there something i am doing wrong with lynx , why am i ending up with the maintenance page
17:23 mtompset are you using a name or a port?
17:23 harry name
17:24 mtompset so did you put the OPAC name or Staff name?
17:24 mtompset lynx
17:25 mtompset Oops... I didn't realize was real.
17:25 mtompset remember library.blah.blah is not the same as library-admin.blah.blah
17:26 harry mtompset> so the DNS should be setup even to access via lynx ?
17:26 mtompset if you are using lynx on your own server, you can edit the /etc/hosts
17:26 mtompset for example,[…]ing_an_IP_Address
17:27 harry DOMAIN="" INTRAPORT="80" # use 8080 for an IP-based install. INTRAPREFIX="" INTRASUFFIX="-intra" OPACPORT="80" OPACPREFIX="" OPACSUFFIX=""
17:27 harry can the intra and opac port be the same
17:28 mtompset YES... that's why the INTRASUFFIX is "-intra"
17:29 harry i never used intraprefix , should it be filled with the instance name
17:29 mtompset you put the same port and no suffix?!
17:29 mtompset That's why it is failing.
17:30 harry ok let me change
17:30 harry and then i need to create the instance again right
17:30 mtompset changing it won't fix it after the fact.
17:30 mtompset You'll need to DELETE the instance, and then create it again, yes.
17:31 mtompset[…]kages#koha-remove
17:31 harry ok ill look into that
17:31 harry thanks a ton
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17:37 pianohacker hi #koha
17:38 mtompset Greetings, pianohacker.
17:38 pianohacker hi mtompset
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17:54 cait hey pianohacker
17:54 wahanui rumour has it pianohacker is a Dune fan, it seems
17:57 * mtompset grins, "Dune sucks!"
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18:09 barton back
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18:36 indradg @wunder
18:36 huginn indradg: (wunder <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
18:37 indradg @wunder kolkata
18:37 huginn indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 27.0°C (11:50 PM IST on March 18, 2014). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
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19:06 mtompset Joubu: I discovered that Ukrainian currency symbol default is wrong in Koha.
19:07 mtompset GRN is not a valid currency code.
19:08 barton @seen eythian
19:08 huginn barton: eythian was last seen in #koha 21 hours, 2 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <eythian> hi cait
19:08 cait mtompset: we have an ukrainian currency symbol?
19:08 mtompset uk-UA.
19:09 mtompset ru-RU.
19:09 mtompset both currency files have GRN.,
19:09 cait ah
19:09 mtompset I figured out it was UAH.
19:09 cait they are a bit older
19:09 cait not sure if someone currently maintains them
19:09 mtompset I'm about to bug report to maintain ALL of them. ;)
19:10 mtompset They lack consistency.
19:10 mtompset I'm just tweaking some auto-building code I am writing, which will grab current values from Yahoo! Finance. :)
19:28 wajasu is anyone coding facets support using zebra.  maybe dcook? bug 11232
19:28 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11232 new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Retrieve facets from Zebra
19:29 mtompset is active a reserved keyword?
19:30 mtompset I can't figure out why my code has $active = 1 all the time.
19:30 pastebot "mtompset" at pasted "Why is $active always 1?" (9 lines) at
19:31 mtompset Where's my obvious mistake?
19:33 mtompset OH GOODNESS! == vs. eq.
19:33 mtompset Stupid multiple languages mixed up in my head bug.
19:35 pianohacker oh haha yeah
19:35 pianohacker I write so much JS I mix that up too
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19:42 mtompset es-ES == spain?
19:43 cait spanish
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19:47 pianohacker is IS what?
19:51 rhcl mtompset: druthb informed me that there is a language code for Klingon too.
19:51 indradg lol
19:51 mtompset What do you mean "is IS what?"?
19:51 rhcl or was that a Marc record? druthb, please refresh my memory
19:52 druthb There is a language code for Klingon, yes.
19:52 druthb "tlh", IIRC
19:52 rhcl ah, indeed.
19:52 * magnuse would guess IS = Icelandic
19:52 magnuse ...if we are talking about languages
19:54 rhcl wonder if there is a currency symbol for latinum?
19:55 mtompset[…]/code_changes.php
19:55 mtompset tlh is klingon.
19:55 druthb rhcl:  Doesn't appear to be.[…]tional_currencies
19:56 rhcl hummm, none of the fictional currencies have a symbol
19:58 rhcl is there a unicode code for BTC?
19:59 rhcl ah, apparently not
19:59 druthb
20:00 mtompset Seriously? A discussion about REAL currency and problems in Koha has degenerated to FICTIONAL ones? :P
20:00 rhcl BTC is virtual but certainly real
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20:04 wizzyrea hi
20:05 * magnuse waves to wizzyrea then wanders off into the night
20:08 wizzyrea did you really expect that this channel would be all business all the time?
20:08 wizzyrea seriously?
20:08 wizzyrea no wonder it's quiet so much now.
20:19 mtompset Because we're having too much fun in real life? ;)
20:23 mtompset wizzyrea: And of course not.
20:23 mtompset Just staring at currency stuff most of the day driving me crazy.
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20:26 mtompset Greetings, tcohen.
20:26 tcohen hi mtompset
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20:58 tcohen wizzyrea++
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21:05 cait @later tell ashimema maybe 11952 is interesting for the plack/nginx bug
21:05 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
21:06 cait hi tcohen :)
21:07 tcohen hi
21:07 wahanui hola, tcohen
21:16 mtompset cait: I can see where you are coming from, but consistency in terms of currencies listed in all of them, and no truncates or foreign key turn offs would be good. I attached a script for file generation.
21:16 cait ?
21:16 cait not sure i understand
21:16 cait i agree that the sql should be similar
21:17 cait but the currencies listed could differ I think
21:19 cait I think in a german sample file RUB and UAH would not make much sense
21:23 eythian hi
21:26 cait hi eythian
21:26 indradg ok! my issues migration problem is solved! :-) the itemnumber and borrowernumber FK constraints were are work, and hence the mismatch in number of records
21:26 cait i commented on your bug, hopefully it was not total nonsense
21:26 * indradg waves as wizzyrea
21:27 wizzyrea hallo
21:27 indradg hi
21:30 eythian cait: saw that.
21:31 wizzyrea @quote random
21:31 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #104: "<Brooke> not people quoting me *again*" (added by druthb at 01:07 AM, November 17, 2010)
21:31 cait @quote random
21:31 huginn cait: Quote #256: "<jcamins> Cool. New and spectacularly revised deduper works. And it is, if I may say, a super deduper." (added by wizzyrea at 03:33 AM, June 05, 2013)
21:31 cait @quote random
21:31 huginn cait: Quote #56: "* jdavidb makes sure no kitty carcasses are among the dead bugs." (added by gmcharlt at 01:34 PM, February 11, 2010)
21:31 wizzyrea @quote random
21:31 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #268: "<jcamins> windows-- <jcamins> ie-- <oleonard> You'll have to go elsewhere if you're looking to pick a fight jcamins" (added by gmcharlt at 06:40 PM, July 31, 2013)
21:32 wizzyrea ^ hahahaha
21:32 cait *giggles*
21:33 eythian <-- Germans, eh
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21:37 cait eythian: hmpf?
21:38 eythian wahanui: germs
21:38 wahanui germs is
21:38 eythian wahanui: germs
21:38 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
21:39 cait eythian: you are really being mean tonight... tsk.
21:39 eythian heh
21:40 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
21:41 cait going to bed now
21:41 * cait blames eythian
21:41 cait ;)
21:41 eythian it's probably true :)
21:41 cait night all!
21:41 wahanui goodnight cait. You'll be back.
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21:55 wizzyrea @quote random
21:55 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #79: "<robin> drivers make windows crash, therefore windows makes drivers crash." (added by gmcharlt at 01:53 AM, June 24, 2010)
21:57 eythian that totally makes no sense out of context.
22:05 wizzyrea sure it does.
22:05 wizzyrea @quote random
22:05 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #110: "chris: im rm, not god" (added by kf at 10:20 AM, December 08, 2010)
22:05 wizzyrea @quote random
22:05 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #283: "<ashimema> ... looks like 'rtfm' only works if you read it right. :P" (added by mtompset at 01:29 AM, November 01, 2013)
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22:24 wajasu dcook: were you persuing bug 11232? where to do you think it stands?
22:24 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11232 new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Retrieve facets from Zebra
22:26 dcook wajasu: Perusing? I'm the one who reported it :p
22:27 dcook As far as I know, no one is working on it.
22:29 wajasu i had dont a patch that doesn't use zebra for facets, but then i have to get the result record and inspect all those marcxml chunks, and if a query has a huge result set (10000 plus) it might be a burden for the server.
22:29 wajasu i was going to give coding the facets a try to see if that would be better.
22:29 wajasu to zebra
22:31 dcook I don't really follow what you're saying, but by all means try it out. All the info you should need should be in the comments on that bug report.
22:31 wajasu well, i might give it a shot then.
22:32 wajasu didn't want to work something someone else was working on.
22:32 dcook I suppose you never know. I don't really have any idea what anyone is working on except maybe eythian :p
22:32 dcook As for me...nothing too exciting on my front.
22:33 dcook Hoping to actually test patches and maybe get more local patches into the community, but nothing in terms of major enhancements
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