IRC log for #koha, 2014-03-13

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00:07 rangi https://twitter.com/grantmnz/s[…]232/photo/1/large
00:07 rangi seems fair
00:13 eythian http://time.com/19633/kevin-ba[…]-awareness-video/ <-- rangi
00:14 rangi :)
01:39 dpk joined #koha
01:40 mtompset Have a great day, #koha rangi eythian wajasu
01:50 bag anyone still awake?
01:52 dcook Wha?
01:52 * dcook wonders if anyone actually uses the "Task Scheduler"
01:52 dcook Seems like it could be useful but I don't know if it even works
01:52 dcook The code looks interesting..
01:53 dcook Jesus...2:53am, bag?
01:53 bag hey dcook
01:53 bag oh no is it really 3am
01:53 bag damn it - 4 nights in a row
01:54 bag I think in the last 4 nights I have gotten about 12 hours of sleep
01:54 wizzyrea it does work, if you add the koha user to the at users
01:54 wizzyrea group
01:54 wizzyrea also hi bag
01:54 bag heya wizzyrea
01:54 wahanui wizzyrea is a fan of selecting hunks for committing.
01:54 wizzyrea it's true.
01:54 wahanui I saw it on Digg!
01:54 wizzyrea hehe
01:54 dcook But /intranet/cgi-bin/tools/runreport.pl doesn't even exist :S
01:54 bag dcook: - the timestamp on my irc client says 18:54pm
01:55 wizzyrea ^ this exchange happens at least once a month
01:55 dcook bag: That's not too bad then.
01:55 wizzyrea it sure should exist.
01:55 dcook I think it's in bin in a standard install
01:56 dcook runreport.pl that is
01:56 wizzyrea I think it's scheduler that does it
01:56 dcook Wait, cronjobs
01:57 dcook scheduler.pl still says "/tools/runreport.pl" though O_o
01:57 wizzyrea yeah, basically you schedule the job, if your user is in the at allowed users, then you set up the cronjob to do the jobs at the right time
01:57 bag but yes dcook where I am - it is 0300
01:57 wizzyrea 0257
01:57 wizzyrea ;)
01:57 dcook bag: I was just about to ask if you were still actually in France ;)
01:58 bag yup yes oui
01:58 dcook Chouette :D
01:58 dcook In both sense of the word I guess..
01:59 dcook So why the late night?
02:00 bag well at home it's 7pm
02:01 bag so why would I not be awake?
02:01 dcook I forgot that last time I saw you we were probably in the same timezone as your family, yeah?
02:02 bag yes
02:03 dcook wizzyrea: Have you seen the product of the Task Scheduler? Given that command path, I don't see how it could possibly work :S
02:03 dcook Nor why scheduler.pl has code for recurring reports when the interface doesn't seem to support that..
02:03 wizzyrea I am pretty sure bywater has some clients using it.
02:03 wizzyrea we may, I'm not sure.
02:04 dcook I would love to have one of our clients able to run reports days/weekly/monthly...
02:04 dcook I'm sure most libraries could actually benefit from that in some capacity
02:04 wizzyrea yep
02:05 dcook The "at" command seems kind of cool
02:06 * dcook pokes around for a C4::Scheduler test..
02:06 dcook Well that's...less than helpful I think...
02:07 bag yes dcook - what the f#$# am I doing awake
02:07 dcook Good question
02:07 dcook "Yes" as in you use the Task Scheduler or "Yes" I'm crazy?
02:10 wajasu i looked into the scheduler on my master a week ago.  it seems broken, though the test runs.  i think it has to do with the fact that the test is not run as the apache user www-data and some other things.
02:10 wizzyrea eythian and rangi aren't around right now, I'm sure they can tell you more
02:11 dcook wajasu: The tests are run without arguments, so they don't seem to really be "doing" anything
02:11 dcook wizzyrea: Thanks. I'll have to harrass them later.
02:11 wizzyrea it could well be broken
02:14 dcook In that case, we might just have to do some homegrown cron ourselves
02:14 wajasu i also asked if i should submit my patch, but I wasn't sure if it would pass security these days.  I think they really want a smarter task scheduler.  I started to write one but got sidetracked.
02:14 dcook A smarter task scheduler would be good
02:31 dcook wizzyrea: Looks like I should've looked at bug 1993
02:31 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1993 major, P3, ---, sophie.meynieux, In Discussion , Task Scheduler Needs Re-write
02:31 wizzyrea that is ancient.
02:33 wizzyrea good heavens, that's a bug.
02:41 eythian task scheduler has long been broken, I think
02:41 eythian but I've never really looked too closely
02:43 dcook eythian: Looks that way. I never really thought about it until now.
02:43 wizzyrea certainly I think there are people using runreport.pl as a cronjob
02:43 wizzyrea to er, run reports
02:43 wizzyrea they may not be scheduling anything to run through the interface though
02:43 dcook Yeah, that's the proposal that I just sent on our tracker
02:43 dcook Nicholas's fix for the runreport.pl html header makes it seem that it works
02:44 dcook I kind of like gmcharlt's idea about having a db table where you can add reports
02:44 dcook Have a daily, weekly, monthly setting and that is probably good enough
02:44 eythian yeah, it would be.
02:44 dcook Or have it run frequently checking times for a fancier version
02:45 dcook Oh the proverbial position of writing a community patch or doing a quick fix locally
02:46 dcook At the very least, we should probably disable the task scheduler..
02:46 eythian it has a proverb?
02:47 wajasu have cronjob that runs scheduler every minute.  query for scheduled jobs/tasks.  based on task, execute it.  have a special scheduleReport task that can run reports and  store results.  users can get feedback in UI about  report being ready and jump to report browser and export, etc.
02:47 eythian every minute? eww.
02:47 dcook eythian: I'm pretty sure. I just can't remember it :p.
02:48 eythian Part of the benefit of scheduled reports is that you can run them when system load is low.
02:48 eythian could also use the 'batch' command.
02:50 dcook That's pretty neat, eythian
02:50 dcook I do wonder about how much a librarian would need to use time to be honest
02:51 eythian yeah. daily/weekly/monthly makes a lot of sense really.
02:51 dcook I mean...provided it happens before the library opens or after it closes..
02:51 dcook I think so
03:27 rangi http://earth.nullschool.net/#c[…]/orthographic=175,-30,1305
03:27 rangi i think it might rain tomorrow
03:27 rangi (thats hurricane lusi up there)
03:28 eythian Supposed to hit sat/sun isn't it?
03:28 rangi yep
03:29 rangi http://metservice.com/maps-rad[…]in-forecast-3-day
03:29 wizzyrea auckland might get hit pretty hard :/
03:30 rangi dont put any clothes on the line after 10am saturday :)
03:30 wizzyrea lol, I had a request in for laundry to be more/less done today
03:30 wizzyrea because rain + running the dryer = wet house
03:30 rangi http://metservice.com/maps-rad[…]n-sea-nz-infrared is quite impressive
03:31 eythian http://www.bikethetrail.co.nz/ <-- guess who is going to be standing around for a few hours doing comms and first aid etc. for this on Sunday morning...
03:31 rangi hehe
03:31 rangi gonna be a slippery ride, if all that rain comes down sat night
03:31 * wizzyrea offers an umbrella
03:31 wizzyrea oh wait it's wellington
03:31 wizzyrea never mind.
03:31 wahanui Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot.
03:31 eythian yeah. I think I'll pack a jacket.
03:31 wizzyrea you need one of those tent poncho things
03:32 eythian I have a wooly hat, that's almost the same, right?
03:32 wizzyrea yeah, naw.
03:32 rangi wetsuit
03:32 rangi that works better in wellington
03:32 wizzyrea just go naked.
03:32 * dcook heard naked
03:33 dcook I didn't realize it was about weather...
03:34 wizzyrea oh it's gonna skirt down the west coast, that's novel
03:38 eythian http://earth.nullschool.net/#2[…]/orthographic=175,-30,1305 <-- there will be this for a while
03:41 wizzyrea phew, that'll be juuuust about the right direction to blow straight into my house.
03:41 wizzyrea yay?
03:42 dcook Oh boy. That looks like fun...
03:45 mtj woah, i love the visualisation on that last pic
03:45 mtj looks quite… swirly  tho :/
03:47 wizzyrea looks kind of like it will cross the coromandel and then annoy taranaki quite a bit
03:49 * wizzyrea is not sure how much, besides rain, it will annoy wellington
03:51 wizzyrea darnit I'm going to be so cold going home I left my jacket at home today.
03:52 wizzyrea why did I do that! This is wellington!@
03:52 wizzyrea dumbdumbdumb
03:53 eythian computer says 18 outside
03:53 eythian @wunder nzwn
03:53 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (4:30 PM NZDT on March 13, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
03:54 dcook @wunder sydney, australia
03:54 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 23.0°C (2:30 PM EST on March 13, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
03:54 dcook I think I preferred the slightly cooler and cloudier morning...
03:56 wizzyrea 18's not terrible
03:56 wizzyrea pretty good really
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05:08 rangi @wunder nzwn
05:08 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (6:00 PM NZDT on March 13, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
05:11 eythian I now have paging working for ES :)
05:11 eythian Now to throw together a terrible UI for it.
05:11 rangi :)
05:18 dcook You know you've been using Vim a while when you try to save in notepad++ with ":w"
05:20 eythian I do that all the time in gedit
05:21 dcook Is gedit a ctrl+s as well?
05:21 dcook I use it from time to time but can't recall
05:21 eythian yeah
05:22 eythian I mostly work in vim, but sometimes use gedit as a scratchpad to throw data into to have a look at it.
05:23 dcook Yeah, that's mainly how I use np++ these days. Not sure why I'm using it at the moment for some quick debugging..
05:23 dcook My terminal is still on the man page for 'batch' :p
05:35 eythian huh, paging was easier than expected.
05:37 dcook \o/
05:38 dcook I've got call numbers wrapping (rather than going outside their guideboxes) but it's inelegant and I wonder about possible repercussions for call numbers I'm not seeing right now..
05:39 dcook Shouldn't be any..
05:39 dcook Well...
05:39 dcook I suppose a line that barely fits into a single line now will be instead split into two which could be expected..
05:40 eythian yeah, I think that's about the best you can do, short of truncating it.
05:40 eythian @later tell bag new code with paging and stuff.
05:40 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
05:40 dcook Ack, I mean it could be "unexpected"
05:40 dcook I figure that's really the only option besides truncating it though
05:48 dcook Ooo I didn't know you could use "push" to push an array onto the end of another array
05:48 dcook Or is this one of those array v. list moments..
05:49 eythian yep
05:50 eythian push @array, (1,2,3) is identical to @x=(1,2,3); push @array, @x
05:51 dcook Indeed. That makes things a lot more slick.
05:52 eythian rule of thumb is that most places you see "@something", you can expand it to a list of its elements. The left hand side of push is an exception, as it's treated like an array rather than a list through magic.
05:53 dcook I was wondering about this magic!
05:54 eythian it's sorta like using prototypes, so it says "the array on the left will be an array reference"
05:54 eythian don't use prototypes though.
05:54 eythian http://perldoc.perl.org/perlsub.html#Prototypes
05:55 dcook Mmm, I've seen them around Koha on occasion and wondered what they were..
05:56 eythian hrm, I'd hope Koha isn't using them, but it could well be.
05:56 dcook Ah, maybe I'm wrong about the prototypes
05:56 dcook Maybe they mean something different than I think..
05:56 dcook Yeah, I think I'm wrong about that
05:56 eythian they're really only good if you want to make a function behave like a builtin in some way, because it makes something a whole lot more convenient.
05:56 dcook is "mypush (+@)" a prototype or is it just "(+@)"?
05:56 eythian In general they're to be avoided as they run the risk of making everything more confusing.
05:57 eythian sub mypush (+@) is a sub called mypush with a prototype "+@"
05:57 rangi i went through ripping out prototypes
05:57 dcook In that case, there are totes prototypes in Koha
05:57 dcook Ah, they may no longer be there then
05:57 rangi the qa suite fails when it sees them
05:57 dcook There used to be
05:57 rangi so they get removed whenever a piece of code is touched
05:58 rangi perlcritic hates them, and yells
05:58 eythian oh yeah, there are some
05:58 eythian I count 4 in koha
05:58 eythian so not too bad
05:59 rangi yeah, i did a purge a couple of years ago
05:59 eythian Most of them seem to be unnecessary
05:59 eythian 43:sub token_negligible_p( $ ) { for example
05:59 rangi i never found one that was necessary
05:59 rangi people often misunderstand what they are for
06:00 rangi spcially if they used to program in c
06:00 dcook They seem like they could be handy I suppose, but probably best to be used sparingly?
06:00 eythian they have uses, but in very niche cases that we should be avoiding anyway.
06:00 rangi yeah
06:01 rangi best practices say just dont use them
06:01 rangi if you need to, rethink what you are trying to do :)
06:01 dcook Makes sense :)
06:02 rangi i need to remember that for next time i have aleisha in at the office
06:02 dcook Still not sure I get the difference between array and list, unfortunately :(
06:02 rangi she could hunt down the prototypes, and given when constructs
06:02 eythian ah yeah, and smartmatch
06:02 rangi yeah
06:02 dcook I didn't realize that we actually had any of those left either. Huh..
06:03 rangi we have some given when
06:03 dcook I love how every time I think I've seen every bit of Koha, there's a new part that emerges :p
06:03 rangi try running koha on wheezy, you'll find them fast
06:03 eythian dcook: http://learn.perl.org/faq/perl[…]ist-and-an-array-
06:03 rangi filling up the error log
06:03 dcook eythian: I was just reading that, hehe
06:03 dcook Hmm, I run a few test Kohas on Wheezy
06:04 dcook I suppose I don't use them very often though
06:04 dcook Ah
06:04 dcook The logs, that would be why
06:05 * eythian &
06:05 rangi colin campbell killed a bunch
06:05 rangi im sure there are more though
06:05 dcook eythian: What was that?
06:05 dcook Yay for students!
06:06 rangi he backgrounded himself
06:06 rangi (going home)
06:06 dcook I don't think I've ever seen that before
06:07 dcook Actually, after re-reading that FAQ, I think I might understand..
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06:19 dcook eythian++
06:19 dcook rangi++
06:19 dcook For their awesome Perl knowledge :)
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06:24 dcook All right. Time to power down.
06:24 dcook Night all.
06:24 wahanui goodnight dcook. You'll be back.
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07:27 marcelr hi #koha
07:27 rangi hi marcelr
07:27 marcelr :)
07:28 cait hi marcelr :)
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07:38 reiveune hello
07:38 wahanui kai ora, reiveune
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07:56 bag good mornig
07:56 bag cait - no baby
07:56 cait oh :(
07:56 cait but everyhtin gis ok?
07:57 bag yes everything else is ok
07:57 bag according to kyle - today is the day
07:57 cait maybe tomorrow then
07:57 cait aah
07:57 cait we will keep sending positive thoughts then
07:57 cait where are you hiding?
07:57 bag in bed :P
07:57 cait aha
07:57 cait i have heard oyu have been a bad influence on martin
07:57 bag pianohacker is taking a shower - once he's done we will come up to biblibre
07:58 bag me?
07:58 wahanui I LIKE BASEBALL
07:59 bag cait I am never a bad influence, it was a group of people
07:59 cait just teasing :)
07:59 cait and i need jesse -  he is my wifi hot spot, make him hurry up
07:59 cait :)
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08:01 ashimema mehhhhh
08:01 rangi drink more coffee
08:01 * ashimema thinks that maybe the last drink last night wasn't such a good idea
08:01 bag good morning ashimema
08:01 ashimema good morning bag :)
08:02 bag yes yes it wasn't the best of ideas
08:02 ashimema coffee :))))
08:02 rangi ashimema: you only get hungover when you stop
08:02 ashimema indeed..
08:02 ashimema good morning rangi
08:02 bag rangi: I think the hangover will kick in - in a few hours
08:02 ashimema indeed.. I feel great this morning ;)
08:02 ashimema though my code is dancing :S
08:02 ashimema sometimes that's good, somtimes that's bad..
08:03 bag ha
08:03 ashimema i'm working on hangover.. staving it off with coffee
08:04 rangi @quote get 250
08:04 huginn rangi: Quote #250: "<cjh> This code smells of wine." (added by wizzyrea at 04:52 AM, May 24, 2013)
08:04 ashimema hehe
08:04 cait oh and tell pianohacker i have headphones waiting for him
08:04 ashimema .me giggles uncontrolably
08:06 cait he has a mean giggle
08:06 cait it's a bit scary
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08:06 ashimema right.. onward and upward...
08:07 ashimema what was I going to do today?
08:07 bag ashimema: it was test the accountlines rewrite
08:08 bag from khall
08:08 ashimema i can do that..
08:08 ashimema got a bug number ;)
08:08 bag ahh pfffft
08:09 cait bag: are yo ustealing my qa m... assistant?
08:09 nlegrand hiya #koha o/
08:10 bag ashimema: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6427
08:10 huginn Bug 6427: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Rewrite of the accounts system
08:10 * magnuse waves in no particular language
08:10 bag magnuse: HI
08:10 magnuse bag: HI
08:10 ashimema i qa'd the reports svc stuff yesterday rangi.. I couldn't get it working with more than one param..
08:10 ashimema was I being stupid?
08:11 ashimema oh la magnuse
08:11 magnuse oh la di da
08:11 bag magnuse: I think I am 5 second tom this morning
08:11 rangi hmmm
08:11 ashimema bag: oh yeah, i've been looking at that one for a while.. it's biiiiig ;)
08:11 magnuse yay, "needs signoff" is dwn by 3 since last i checked: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]dnesday_afternoon
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08:11 magnuse bag: HI
08:11 ashimema this may take me some time..
08:12 bag ashimema: too big
08:12 sophie_m hello
08:12 cait magnuse: we also got a small dent into the qa queue :)
08:12 ashimema indeed
08:12 cait hi sophie_m  - starting with your patch this morning :)
08:12 bag big ones happen - and it takes a village to get them in :P
08:12 magnuse 129 needs signoff - can we get below 100 before the hackfest is over? (and keep it there...)
08:12 bag moring sophie_m
08:12 ashimema hense why i've been looking at it for a while.. been qaing in lots of small spurts
08:12 bag magnuse: HI
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08:12 magnuse bag: HI
08:14 ashimema rangi.. was that 'informed professional' page meant to be live.. I get a 404
08:15 magnuse worked for me
08:16 * ashimema hits refresh again
08:17 rangi have a trailing slash?
08:17 ashimema didn't.. trying with trailing slash now
08:18 bag oh man I read that as training slash...  and was lost for a bit...  oh yeah umm...  wait..  magnuse HI
08:19 bag ok pianohacker is out of the shower - we will see you all shortly
08:19 ashimema the internet doesn't like me today..
08:19 ashimema still can't get your page rangi.. but cait can next to me
08:20 cait :)
08:20 cait looks nice
08:21 ashimema anywho.. give me a shout if you want more details in the reports svc bug..
08:21 rangi will do
08:21 ashimema no idea yet why I couldn't use more than one param
08:21 ashimema :)
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08:23 magnuse bag: HI
08:24 bag bye bye you all
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08:25 gaetan_B hello
08:25 wahanui privet, gaetan_B
08:25 cait rangi: very cool!
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08:29 ashimema looks shiny
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08:31 Oak magnuse
08:31 Oak kai ora #koha
08:31 Oak hello cait :)
08:31 magnuse Oak
08:32 Oak \o/
08:32 magnuse :-)
08:32 cait hi Oak :)
08:34 Oak so cait, I have a bit of free time, can I sign-off some easy bug(s)? I mean if you know the number...
08:34 magnuse after all the performance discussions in marseille and on irc, i was thinking maybe it would be nice to have some tool that could go x commits back in koha history, run some performance tests for the code at that point, go one (or 5 or 10) step forward in history, run the tests again, step forward, run the tests and so on, and then report on how performance changes from step to step?
08:34 cait rangi: showing ashimema the link you posted earlier
08:34 cait :)
08:34 cait Oak: bit hard right now to tell - so many things going on
08:34 Oak okay cool.
08:34 cait maybe go to the dashboard and look for one?
08:34 Oak sure sure np.
08:35 cait i really have no overview right now :)
08:35 cait trying to find an easy bug to fix for a first committer... any ideas anyone? :)
08:35 Oak no no. not fix. the other thing.
08:36 nlegrand magnuse: I like the idea :)
08:38 nlegrand magnuse: in the next months I'm going to try the update of BULAC koha from 3.2 to 3.1[46], I may try to bench different versions with our Koha
08:38 magnuse Oak: find the list of "needs signoff", go to the bottom, click on "Change columns", add "patch complexity" to the list of displayed columns, click the "change columns" button, sort the list by "patch complexity" and start digging into the "trivial" patches :-)
08:38 magnuse nlegrand: cool!
08:39 Oak ah cool. thanks!
08:39 Oak magnuse++
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08:41 magnuse ooh, a signoff for bug 11927 would be nice - new developer! :-)
08:41 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11927 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Add greek chr lang_def file
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08:54 rangi what khall_away has to look foward to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98LoiMZ59Jw
08:56 bag hello
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08:59 pianohacker good morning
09:00 bag morning pianohacker
09:01 pianohacker good morning might be a bit of an exaggeration actually
09:04 ashimema we've got a n00b working on puring given/when from the codebase...  go nicolas
09:04 ashimema :)
09:05 ashimema s/puring/purging/g
09:06 cait go nlegrand :)
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09:11 ashimema That's a cool idea magnuse.. may point out some 'heavy' commits
09:11 bag anybody here ever submit a patch to remove code?  I haven't - but it doesn't seem like it is anything too different - is there something that I should know?
09:12 ashimema would be good for the qa team to see a few of those for comparative reasons
09:12 cait bag: hm just to use git rm i think
09:12 cait on files you remove
09:13 bag yeah not whole files cait - I'm thinking of just removing some of the old pazpar2 stuff
09:13 cait i think that should be just removing the lines then :)
09:13 cait and try not to break stuff!!
09:13 * ashimema likes the idea of some purging..
09:13 cait :)
09:13 bag well wait - yes that would include whole files too :)
09:14 ashimema it'll be nice to see the wood for the trees
09:14 bag cait yes no breaking of stuff
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09:15 bag hey pianohacker
09:15 wahanui I HATE XML
09:15 mrenvoize don't we all wahanui
09:16 bag on your pazpar2 integration - are you using any of the old pazpar2 code?
09:16 pianohacker bag: nope
09:16 pianohacker none of it
09:17 bag and that code isn't in master correct?
09:17 pianohacker also correct
09:17 rangi https://twitter.com/ranginui/s[…]43900767594749952
09:19 pianohacker rangi: dare I ask what you're looking at?
09:19 rangi NCIP
09:19 pianohacker oh lord
09:19 rangi aka a pile of XML crap
09:20 pianohacker how large a pile? XSLT, SOAP, or SAML?
09:20 rangi its worse
09:20 pianohacker dear lord
09:20 rangi because you have to parse the xml
09:21 rangi then you have to write an english parser
09:21 rangi cos you can literally put anything in the requested action
09:21 rangi its ridinkydonk
09:21 bag yup
09:21 bag magnuse: HI
09:21 rangi now im  going to sleep
09:22 cait good night rangi
09:27 pianohacker cait: get on my wifi dangit
09:27 pianohacker there we go
09:27 pianohacker cait++
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09:28 cait1 pianohacker: :P
09:28 pianohacker hi cait1
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09:41 pianohacker c'est boom
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09:44 pianohacker cait: ping when you are ready
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09:49 nlegrand so, here we go, my first koha patch, proposed by ashimema and cait in kohafest :), I'm ready for comments ^^ http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11934
09:49 huginn Bug 11934: trivial, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , Replace given by if-else in Circulation_issuingrules.t
09:55 nlegrand erf, i left a default...
09:56 nlegrand ><
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09:59 magnuse_ bonjour petter!
09:59 petter bonjor!
10:00 magnuse_ did you have a good trip home?
10:00 petter yea, it went ok
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10:00 petter But I wish I was still in sunny Marseille
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10:03 nlegrand ok updated with better diff :) http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11934
10:03 huginn Bug 11934: trivial, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , Replace given by if-else in Circulation_issuingrules.t
10:03 nlegrand hey petter o/
10:03 petter hei nicolas!
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10:04 JesseM_ Hi
10:04 wahanui bidet, JesseM_
10:05 bag hey good morning petter
10:05 ashimema yeay nlegrand...
10:05 ashimema right.. someone go test his patch ;)
10:07 petter mornin brendan!
10:07 nlegrand petter: add some talk with my boss (Benjamin Guichard), his main remark was he was very interesting by your projects of cataloguing in RDF first :)
10:08 petter cool!
10:08 petter I hope more libraries will follow:)
10:08 nlegrand :)
10:08 petter We will share all our work
10:08 petter And, most importantly, all our data
10:09 bag yes that is cool
10:10 petter But for now, we will have focus on RFID & migrations..
10:10 petter For RFID, maybe we can get something to show in 6 months time
10:10 petter Sorry, for RDF
10:10 petter in 6 months time
10:13 magnuse hooray for rdf!
10:14 nlegrand \o/
10:16 magnuse which reminds me, i should wrap up a patch for bug 10788
10:16 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10788 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, NEW , Add a Linked Data/RDF browser to the OPAC
10:17 magnuse (which is my little side project, not related to the work being done at oslo public library. but of course it would all play well together)
10:17 magnuse (hopefully)
10:17 petter go go go!
10:18 petter magnus: is it semantikoha?
10:18 petter https://github.com/MagnusEnger/semantikoha
10:18 petter ?
10:19 magnuse well, an evolution of that
10:20 magnuse sort of, kind of
10:20 magnuse :-)
10:21 bag bug 11703
10:21 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable
10:23 magnuse wooho
10:27 dpavlin bug 7844 looking for QA... It's a pleasure to develop with plack, everybody should try it ;-)
10:27 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7844 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Signed Off , plack scripts for developers
10:28 magnuse yeah, i envy the qa person that gets the pleasure of looking at 7844
10:31 dpavlin magnuse++
10:31 ashimema :S
10:31 ashimema that'll probably end up being me
10:32 magnuse ooh, lucky ashimema
10:33 ashimema super simple qa for someone: bug 11934
10:33 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11934 trivial, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , Replace given by if-else in Circulation_issuingrules.t
10:34 nlegrand magnuse: thanks for showing 10788 :) I'm in CC now ^^
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10:36 ashimema time to get to grips with how all the plack bugs and off bug implimentations fit together
10:39 bag cool ashimema :)
10:39 bag I was just applying that bug - but looks like you got your teeth into it
10:40 bag I can tell you that it applies cleanly
10:40 bag :)
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10:40 vfernandes hello :)
10:47 vfernandes it's possible to restraint one search in Koha? for example i want to search for records that has a subject "Information" but not "Information*"
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10:58 * marcelr hopes for a volunteer in marseille to look at bug 9032
10:58 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9032 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Share a list
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12:02 francharb good morning
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12:09 marcelr hi francharb
12:10 marcelr it is quiet here; they are eating cheese in marseille probably ..
12:11 francharb I guess
12:11 francharb :)
12:21 magnuse_ nope, pizza
12:21 magnuse_ with cheese
12:22 magnuse_ photo time!
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12:34 * cait1 waves at francharb
12:34 * francharb waves back at cait1
12:34 francharb ;)
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12:36 cait1 marcelr++
12:37 marcelr hi cait1
12:37 cait1 seems being outsie of the hackfest is a bit better for productvity today :)
12:45 cait1 @wunder Marseille
12:45 huginn cait1: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 18.7°C (1:45 PM CET on March 13, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 10%. Dew Point: -14.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Falling).
12:46 druthb @wunder 77063
12:46 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Briargrove Park, Houston, Texas is 3.8°C (7:46 AM CDT on March 13, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Falling). Wind Advisory in effect until 6 PM CDT this evening...
12:52 magnuse_ druthb!
12:52 wahanui Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
12:53 magnuse_ "needs signoff" is going up!
12:53 druthb magnuse!
12:53 wahanui somebody said magnuse was afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
12:54 marcelr get it down, magnuse !
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12:58 * magnuse has just eaten pizza, in fact
12:58 magnuse and i'm trying to ressurect some old code of mine at the moment
12:58 magnuse hope to sign off at least one more patch before the day is done, though
13:04 magnuse ...and so should everyone else! :-)
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13:08 tcohen is it GBSD magnuse?
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13:12 magnuse tcohen: sure! :-)
13:13 * tcohen heads into the signing queue
13:14 cait1 morning tcohen :)
13:15 tcohen morning cait1
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13:17 magnuse tcohen: there is a nice, big ++ waiting for you if you sign something off ;-)
13:18 cait1 we'd send cheese or pizza... but the teleporter is broken
13:20 magnuse well not broken, but the internet is not stable enough to take the chance...
13:21 cait1 well... yeah
13:22 francharb who broke the internet?
13:23 cait1 we're not sure
13:24 * cait1 suspects magnuse
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13:27 cait1 marcelr: i am on bug 11551 now
13:27 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11551 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Allow to search on ordernumber in histsearch.pl
13:27 marcelr ok
13:27 cait1 we should have a webcam here - there is a big poster on the wall where we write the numbers :)
13:30 nlegrand tcohen: I just had a look at http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11912 here is the output of Biblio.t: http://pastebin.com/MLiXMwUx (unimarc settings)
13:30 huginn Bug 11912: minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , GetMarcISBN wrongly prepends a space to ISBNs
13:33 tcohen nlegrand: checking
13:35 marcelr looking at bug 11148 now
13:35 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11148 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Two routines are useless in Koha::DateUtils
13:35 cait1 tcohen: can you say where to find the trnaslation for hte manual?
13:35 cait1 likewhere it#s done?
13:36 tcohen es.koha-community.org/manual
13:37 tcohen http://es.koha-community.org/manual
13:37 cait1 https://wiki.bsz-bw.de/doku.ph[…]ha-handbuch:start
13:37 cait1 for sophie_m1 - she was asking :)
13:38 cait1 i think there is a meeting about French documentation right now :)
13:39 tcohen nlegrand: thanks for trying it, I missed something, uploading in a couple of minutes
13:40 pianohacker are there any good bugs/documents showing how we try
13:40 pianohacker *how we use C4::Schema/DBIx::Class?
13:42 tcohen nlegrand: fixed version attached
13:42 nlegrand tcohen: ok :)
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13:43 magnuse ashimema++
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13:45 magnuse pianohacker: i think gmcharlt is working on some examples
13:46 pianohacker okay, cool. My understanding is that all new developments will be encouraged to use DBIx::Class, so it would be good to know what the standards will be for that
13:49 magnuse pianohacker: true!
13:50 pianohacker ah, circ/renew.pl and Koha::List::Patron use it
13:50 magnuse pianohacker: yesterday, gmcharlt said "still workingo n DBIC examples"
13:50 pianohacker magnuse: thanks
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14:03 cait1 dpavlin++
14:03 cait1 http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10542
14:03 huginn Bug 10542: critical, P1 - high, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , QueryParser + OpacSuppression doesn't allow search in 'all libraries'
14:03 marcelr Looking at bug 8868 (again)
14:03 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8868 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , ILS-DI: CancelHold needs to take a reserve_id
14:05 cait1 marcelr: going to look at 11699 now
14:05 marcelr bug 11699
14:05 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11699 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , notes entered when receiving are not saved
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14:12 pianohacker @seen gmcharlt
14:12 huginn pianohacker: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 15 hours, 22 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> ... not in 45 seconds we can't
14:13 * pianohacker wonders what happened 15 hours, 21 minutes and 28 seconds ago...
14:15 tcohen logs?
14:15 wahanui logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/
14:32 magnuse cheese?
14:32 wahanui i think cheese is delicious, but cait just had butter.
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14:34 cait1 what??
14:35 pianohacker We're going to liveblog all of your eating now
14:35 cait1 wahanui no more cookies for you
14:35 wahanui cait1: excuse me?
14:35 pianohacker "Oh, and the German's going to the cookie table"
14:35 cait1 she is not!
14:35 cait1 well not right now
14:35 * cait1 might throw some of the packaged cookies at pianohacker
14:35 pianohacker "Excellent pairing of that cheese and the dark bread I'd say, wouldn't you?"
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14:35 pianohacker "Mm, yes, quite"
14:36 cait1 marcelr: ashimema: starting 10090 again now
14:37 magnuse bug 10090
14:38 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10090 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , the ordered and spent page display the itemtype code
14:42 marcelr dpavlin++ #thanks for 9032
14:42 marcelr have to go
14:43 magnuse bug 9032
14:43 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9032 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Share a list
14:59 cait1 going for bug 11127 again
14:59 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11127 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , OPAC suggestion: the delete link is active when no suggestion selected
15:16 cait1 magnuse: found something on the internet
15:17 cait1 sparql endpoint to gnd?
15:18 magnuse cool
15:18 magnuse what's gnd again?
15:18 cait1 german authority file
15:20 dpavlin @later marcelr I *MIGHT* have re-order bug 9032 in some strange way but they do apply as attached to bug right now
15:20 huginn dpavlin: I've exhausted my database of quotes
15:20 pianohacker dpavlin: @later tell marcelr
15:22 dpavlin @later tell marcelr I *MIGHT* have re-order bug 9032 in some strange way but they do apply as attached to bug right now
15:22 huginn dpavlin: The operation succeeded.
15:22 dpavlin pianohacker++
15:28 * magnuse adds another patch to "needs signoff" and hangs his head in shame
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15:32 pianohacker magnuse++
15:32 pianohacker the queue needs input and output :)
15:34 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11934: (follow-up) tidy up whitespace <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0b94a98e645c89881> / Bug 11934 - Replace given by if-else statements <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bf5574cf131f773e0> / Bug 11923: fix option to sort contents of MARC record batches by citation descending <http://git.koha-community.org/git
15:34 gmcharlt magnuse: for shame! we can never have more patches for Koha!
15:34 gmcharlt ;)
15:35 magnuse lol
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15:40 pianohacker gmcharlt: I came up with an even better name than task after some discussion, routine. Each cronjob is a routine, with zero or more jobs.
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15:41 cait1 gmcharlt++
15:41 gmcharlt pianohacker: I like it
15:41 gmcharlt this, then, is the diagram of the nightly fines process?
15:41 gmcharlt http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1iGM[…]tango_diagram.jpg
15:42 pianohacker gmcharlt: sweet! And that diagram looks right, it's just missing the two left feet
15:42 cait1 :)
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15:52 cait1 and moving on to ... bug 10542
15:52 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10542 critical, P1 - high, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , QueryParser + OpacSuppression doesn't allow search in 'all libraries'
15:57 magnuse cait++
16:05 * cait1 broke the fix
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16:16 magnuse talljoy: could you have a look at the last comment on bug 2499? thanks!
16:16 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2499 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, Needs Signoff , Improvement on text wrapping algorithm needed
16:16 talljoy oh yes.  that is on my to do list. thanks for the reminder
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16:20 magnuse talljoy: cool!
16:27 magnuse fresh numbers, straight from the dashboard: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]#Thursday_morning needs signoff is down by 6
16:28 magnuse so if we are 4 times more effective tomorrow we *can* make it below 100 ;-)
16:29 * magnuse calls it a day - have fun #koha!
16:36 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #387: UNSTABLE in 57 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/387/
16:36 jenkins_koha * Mark Tompsett: Bug 11928 - Remove unused table aqorderdelivery
16:36 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11928: DBRev 3.15.00.025
16:36 jenkins_koha * Fridolin Somers: Bug 11366: make "no group" option in acq basket group drop-down translatable
16:36 jenkins_koha * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 11647: require that user log into OPAC to request email subscription notifications
16:36 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11928 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , table aqorderdelivery seem useless
16:36 jenkins_koha * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 11647: (follow-up) test if user is logged in before proposing to subscribe or unsubcribe from serial routing list
16:36 jenkins_koha * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 11647 : (follow-up) Add template modification for bootstrap theme
16:36 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11647: (follow-up) add comment expressing that user must be logged in
16:36 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11923: fix option to sort contents of MARC record batches by citation descending
16:36 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11366 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Acq basket group "No group" untranslatable
16:36 jenkins_koha * Nicolas Legrand: Bug 11934 - Replace given by if-else statements
16:36 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11934: (follow-up) tidy up whitespace
16:36 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11647 normal, P4, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Master , Subscribe to email notification for serials needs user login
16:36 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11923 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Marc record batches not sorting by citation descending
16:36 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11934 trivial, P5 - low, ---, nicolas.legrand, Pushed to Master , Replace given by if-else in Circulation_issuingrules.t
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16:55 tcohen gmcharlt: do u need a qa followup for bug 9114
16:55 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9114 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , exported MARC frameworks encoding should be UTF-8
16:55 gmcharlt tcohen: yeah, may as well
16:56 tcohen i'll otherwise attach another patch, and ask for signing
16:56 gmcharlt actually, cleaner just to have a single patch
16:58 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11386: standardize validation of the subscription add/edit form <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6fae25b255c647b14> / Bug 11127: (follow-up) define a specific message for suggestions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b7d2f0d15089d9b44> / Bug 11127: OPAC suggestions form - complain when trying to 'delete selected'
16:59 tcohen magnuse?
16:59 wahanui well, magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
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17:05 bag hello cait, magnuse et al  - we have made it to rome
17:10 cait1 bag: how is the weather?
17:10 cait1 and is there a baby now?
17:10 bag well I don't think kyle came to work today
17:10 bag so I think maybe yes the baby is on the way today
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17:47 reiveune1 bye
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17:48 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
17:48 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
17:48 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #388: FIXED in 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/388/
17:48 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11127: OPAC suggestions form - complain when trying to 'delete selected' without having selected any
17:48 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11127: (follow-up) define a specific message for suggestions
17:48 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11127 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , OPAC suggestion: the delete link is active when no suggestion selected
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18:01 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1663: SUCCESS in 2 hr 20 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1663/
18:01 jenkins_koha * Mark Tompsett: Bug 11928 - Remove unused table aqorderdelivery
18:01 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11928: DBRev 3.15.00.025
18:01 jenkins_koha * Fridolin Somers: Bug 11366: make "no group" option in acq basket group drop-down translatable
18:01 jenkins_koha * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 11647: require that user log into OPAC to request email subscription notifications
18:01 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11928 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , table aqorderdelivery seem useless
18:01 jenkins_koha * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 11647: (follow-up) test if user is logged in before proposing to subscribe or unsubcribe from serial routing list
18:01 jenkins_koha * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 11647 : (follow-up) Add template modification for bootstrap theme
18:01 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11647: (follow-up) add comment expressing that user must be logged in
18:01 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11923: fix option to sort contents of MARC record batches by citation descending
18:01 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11366 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Acq basket group "No group" untranslatable
18:01 jenkins_koha * Nicolas Legrand: Bug 11934 - Replace given by if-else statements
18:01 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11934: (follow-up) tidy up whitespace
18:01 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11647 normal, P4, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Master , Subscribe to email notification for serials needs user login
18:01 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11923 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Marc record batches not sorting by citation descending
18:01 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11934 trivial, P5 - low, ---, nicolas.legrand, Pushed to Master , Replace given by if-else in Circulation_issuingrules.t
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18:27 tcohen bye #koha, have a nice day/night
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18:49 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #389: SUCCESS in 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/389/
18:49 jenkins_koha Julian Maurice: Bug 11386: standardize validation of the subscription add/edit form
18:49 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11386 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Mandatory fields in subscription add form should use standard formatting
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19:22 rhcl sombody is having a bad_hair_day
19:38 rangi morning
19:51 wajasu we don't put the biblioserver's items, form the db table, into the marcxml these days.  correct?
19:52 jcamins wajasu: items go into the marcxml only for indexing.
19:56 wajasu ahh.  i see they are appended on the fly when exporting.
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20:00 rangi might have to crank up my radio station again today
20:03 rangi http://grooveshark.com/#!/ranginui/broadcast
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20:08 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11127: OPAC suggestions form - complain when trying to 'delete selected' without having selected any
20:08 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11127: (follow-up) define a specific message for suggestions
20:08 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 11386: standardize validation of the subscription add/edit form
20:08 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11127 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , OPAC suggestion: the delete link is active when no suggestion selected
20:08 rangi feel free to add suggestions and such, ill get bored of picking music fast :)
20:08 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11386 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Mandatory fields in subscription add form should use standard formatting
20:09 jcamins rangi: the theme song to Red Dwarf. Despite being entirely silly and nonsensical, the tune can still get stuck in your head for days or weeks.
20:09 rangi ill see if i can find that
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20:09 jcamins I was mostly joking... the Red Dwarf theme song is cruel and unusual.
20:09 rangi hehe
20:10 jcamins Listen to it, and it will be stuck in your head... FOREVER.
20:10 rangi its in the queue, its a few songs away though :)
20:10 jcamins \o/
20:19 gmcharlt jcamins: of course, the antidote may be http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U2zJOryHKQ
20:20 jcamins I don't know how to turn him off!
20:21 bag evening y'all's
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20:36 * magnuse waves
20:37 rangi hi magnuse
20:37 wahanui hi magnuse are you spending much time in oslo?
20:37 pastebot "homer" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "error connecting" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/166
20:37 homer Hi, sorry, i pasted too soon.
20:37 homer I have no idea how to do this irc thing
20:38 homer but i'm desperate
20:38 homer the paste shows my error
20:38 homer today, i reinstalled from scratch everything, ubuntu, koha, etc.
20:38 homer i've done it so many times i have my own guide
20:38 bag magnuse: HI
20:38 wahanui salut, bag
20:39 homer and casually went along adding data
20:39 homer HI
20:39 wahanui hi, homer
20:39 homer hahah, HI!
20:40 homer well, my computer crashed because sometimes the dog trips on the power cord and i don't notice that it's unplugged
20:40 homer and when i came back
20:40 homer i had this error
20:40 homer i was so happy before - everything was clean
20:40 homer so
20:41 homer i had to have done something that was fine until the browser was restarted
20:41 homer sorry, i should explain that koha is installed on a remote server
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20:42 homer i looked around and saw that possibly the mysql password is not correct
20:42 homer but it is, i can log in as the library user in mysql with the password
20:42 homer any ideas?
20:42 wahanui any ideas are welcome :)
20:42 homer yes!
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20:48 homer server is ubuntu 12.04
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20:51 magnuse_ bag: HI
20:52 homer i rebooted the server but it didn't change anything
21:16 wizzyrea jcamins about?
21:21 magnuse hiya rangi and wizzyrea
21:22 wizzyrea I'm sorry homer I don't think anyone around knows what your issue is.
21:22 wizzyrea hi magnuse
21:22 wahanui hi magnuse are you spending much time in oslo?
21:22 homer Oh well, maybe i can solve it
21:22 magnuse wahanui: nah, mostly marseille these days
21:22 wahanui magnuse: sorry...
21:31 magnuse nothing to be sorry about, wahanui, it's rather nice here actually and they have fabulous cheese
21:33 magnuse have fun #koha!
21:35 eythian hi
21:35 bag heya eythian
21:35 wahanui eythian is great at jokes. That everyone else misses them isn't his problem.
21:47 wizzyrea bag: go to bed!
21:48 bag it's only 2:48pm :)
21:48 bag at home :P
21:48 wizzyrea you have to stop thinking about what time it is there, and LIVE IN THE NOW
21:49 wizzyrea :D
21:51 gmcharlt wizzyrea: I believe bag is doing that already
21:51 gmcharlt he's just choosing to live in ALL the nows! ;)
21:52 bag heh - I had some awesome prosecco tonight - so I'm feeling all the nows
21:52 bag but yes it is bed time
22:08 wajasu i'm wondering if i should use the Koha::Filter to enrich a marc record with the hidden 999h=1 attribute when exporting for my patch.
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22:18 talljoy can someone verify that holds notices are emailed to the branch if the patron doesn't have an email?  or are they lost to the ether?
22:26 jcamins wizzyrea: vaguely, maybe.
22:26 wizzyrea it's ok, I found what I needed on your website ;)
22:26 wizzyrea regarding daredevils.
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22:35 wizzyrea talljoy that is supposed to be the way that it works
22:35 talljoy i figured as much.  thanks wizzyrea.  i just hate to say that and it not work.
22:36 talljoy then again, why someone asked me about notices is beyond me.
22:38 wizzyrea heh
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23:18 mtj yo peeps, does anyone know of a general 'Add missing MARC fields for XSLT display' bug?
23:18 mtj i've just have a quick look in bz, but couldn't find one...
23:21 dcook no clue, sorry
23:24 cait talljoy: i don't think it works like that for holds
23:24 cait in my experience theystay as pending forever
23:24 talljoy ick.  that sounds bad.
23:24 cait might be worth a quick test
23:24 cait ours are on 3.12
23:25 cait in my experience only the overdues get emailed altogether in a mail to the library
23:25 talljoy ok, well that is something to test then.    thanks cait!
23:26 cait hmm wait a sec
23:26 cait there is a hold_print template
23:26 mtj hmm, anyone have a problem with a XSLT category, on koha bz?
23:26 talljoy i saw that cait.  i wondered if it 'duplicated' the emails though.
23:26 cait i think that was it - if you have no email, it uses the HOld_print, but if you never run the cronjobs to gather those
23:26 cait they will stay around
23:26 cait i think you can create a pdf
23:26 cait there is a cronjob for those ... gatherprintsomething?
23:27 * mtj waves to talljoy, cait , dcook )
23:27 talljoy yes gather_print_notices
23:27 talljoy hi mtj
23:27 cait talljoy: but we are not using that yet :(
23:28 talljoy i'm not sure we have anyone using it either.
23:28 talljoy i'll have to check

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