Time  Nick          Message
23:28 talljoy       i'll have to check
23:28 talljoy       i'm not sure we have anyone using it either.
23:27 cait          talljoy: but we are not using that yet :(
23:27 talljoy       hi mtj
23:27 talljoy       yes gather_print_notices
23:27 * mtj         waves to talljoy, cait , dcook )
23:26 cait          there is a cronjob for those ... gatherprintsomething?
23:26 cait          i think you can create a pdf
23:26 cait          they will stay around
23:26 cait          i think that was it - if you have no email, it uses the HOld_print, but if you never run the cronjobs to gather those
23:26 talljoy       i saw that cait.  i wondered if it 'duplicated' the emails though.
23:26 mtj           hmm, anyone have a problem with a XSLT category, on koha bz?
23:26 cait          there is a hold_print template
23:26 cait          hmm wait a sec
23:25 talljoy       ok, well that is something to test then.    thanks cait!
23:25 cait          in my experience only the overdues get emailed altogether in a mail to the library
23:24 cait          ours are on 3.12
23:24 cait          might be worth a quick test
23:24 talljoy       ick.  that sounds bad.
23:24 cait          in my experience theystay as pending forever
23:24 cait          talljoy: i don't think it works like that for holds
23:21 dcook         no clue, sorry
23:18 mtj           i've just have a quick look in bz, but couldn't find one...
23:18 mtj           yo peeps, does anyone know of a general 'Add missing MARC fields for XSLT display' bug?
22:38 wizzyrea      heh
22:36 talljoy       then again, why someone asked me about notices is beyond me.
22:35 talljoy       i figured as much.  thanks wizzyrea.  i just hate to say that and it not work.
22:35 wizzyrea      talljoy that is supposed to be the way that it works
22:26 wizzyrea      regarding daredevils.
22:26 wizzyrea      it's ok, I found what I needed on your website ;)
22:26 jcamins       wizzyrea: vaguely, maybe.
22:18 talljoy       can someone verify that holds notices are emailed to the branch if the patron doesn't have an email?  or are they lost to the ether?
22:08 wajasu        i'm wondering if i should use the Koha::Filter to enrich a marc record with the hidden 999h=1 attribute when exporting for my patch.
21:52 bag           but yes it is bed time
21:52 bag           heh - I had some awesome prosecco tonight - so I'm feeling all the nows
21:51 gmcharlt      he's just choosing to live in ALL the nows! ;)
21:51 gmcharlt      wizzyrea: I believe bag is doing that already
21:49 wizzyrea      :D
21:48 wizzyrea      you have to stop thinking about what time it is there, and LIVE IN THE NOW
21:48 bag           at home :P
21:48 bag           it's only 2:48pm :)
21:47 wizzyrea      bag: go to bed!
21:35 wahanui       eythian is great at jokes. That everyone else misses them isn't his problem.
21:35 bag           heya eythian
21:35 eythian       hi
21:33 magnuse       have fun #koha!
21:31 magnuse       nothing to be sorry about, wahanui, it's rather nice here actually and they have fabulous cheese
21:22 wahanui       magnuse: sorry...
21:22 magnuse       wahanui: nah, mostly marseille these days
21:22 homer         Oh well, maybe i can solve it
21:22 wahanui       hi magnuse are you spending much time in oslo?
21:22 wizzyrea      hi magnuse
21:22 wizzyrea      I'm sorry homer I don't think anyone around knows what your issue is.
21:21 magnuse       hiya rangi and wizzyrea
21:16 wizzyrea      jcamins about?
20:52 homer         i rebooted the server but it didn't change anything
20:51 magnuse_      bag: HI
20:48 homer         server is ubuntu 12.04
20:42 homer         yes!
20:42 wahanui       any ideas are welcome :)
20:42 homer         any ideas?
20:42 homer         but it is, i can log in as the library user in mysql with the password
20:42 homer         i looked around and saw that possibly the mysql password is not correct
20:41 homer         sorry, i should explain that koha is installed on a remote server
20:41 homer         i had to have done something that was fine until the browser was restarted
20:40 homer         so
20:40 homer         i was so happy before - everything was clean
20:40 homer         i had this error
20:40 homer         and when i came back
20:40 homer         well, my computer crashed because sometimes the dog trips on the power cord and i don't notice that it's unplugged
20:39 homer         hahah, HI!
20:39 wahanui       hi, homer
20:39 homer         HI
20:39 homer         and casually went along adding data
20:38 wahanui       salut, bag
20:38 bag           magnuse: HI
20:38 homer         i've done it so many times i have my own guide
20:38 homer         today, i reinstalled from scratch everything, ubuntu, koha, etc.
20:38 homer         the paste shows my error
20:38 homer         but i'm desperate
20:37 homer         I have no idea how to do this irc thing
20:37 homer         Hi, sorry, i pasted too soon.
20:37 pastebot      "homer" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "error connecting" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/166
20:37 wahanui       hi magnuse are you spending much time in oslo?
20:37 rangi         hi magnuse
20:36 * magnuse     waves
20:21 bag           evening y'all's
20:20 jcamins       I don't know how to turn him off!
20:19 gmcharlt      jcamins: of course, the antidote may be http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U2zJOryHKQ
20:10 jcamins       \o/
20:10 rangi         its in the queue, its a few songs away though :)
20:10 jcamins       Listen to it, and it will be stuck in your head... FOREVER.
20:09 rangi         hehe
20:09 jcamins       I was mostly joking... the Red Dwarf theme song is cruel and unusual.
20:09 rangi         ill see if i can find that
20:09 jcamins       rangi: the theme song to Red Dwarf. Despite being entirely silly and nonsensical, the tune can still get stuck in your head for days or weeks.
20:08 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11386 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Mandatory fields in subscription add form should use standard formatting
20:08 rangi         feel free to add suggestions and such, ill get bored of picking music fast :)
20:08 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11127 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , OPAC suggestion: the delete link is active when no suggestion selected
20:08 jenkins_koha  * Julian Maurice: Bug 11386: standardize validation of the subscription add/edit form
20:08 jenkins_koha  * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11127: (follow-up) define a specific message for suggestions
20:08 jenkins_koha  * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11127: OPAC suggestions form - complain when trying to 'delete selected' without having selected any
20:08 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_master build #1664: SUCCESS in 2 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1664/
20:03 rangi         http://grooveshark.com/#!/ranginui/broadcast
20:00 rangi         might have to crank up my radio station again today
19:56 wajasu        ahh.  i see they are appended on the fly when exporting.
19:52 jcamins       wajasu: items go into the marcxml only for indexing.
19:51 wajasu        we don't put the biblioserver's items, form the db table, into the marcxml these days.  correct?
19:38 rangi         morning
19:22 rhcl          sombody is having a bad_hair_day
18:49 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11386 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Mandatory fields in subscription add form should use standard formatting
18:49 jenkins_koha  Julian Maurice: Bug 11386: standardize validation of the subscription add/edit form
18:49 jenkins_koha  Project master_maria build #389: SUCCESS in 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/389/
18:27 tcohen        bye #koha, have a nice day/night
18:05 jenkins_koha  Starting build #1664 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:01 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11934 trivial, P5 - low, ---, nicolas.legrand, Pushed to Master , Replace given by if-else in Circulation_issuingrules.t
18:01 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11923 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Marc record batches not sorting by citation descending
18:01 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11647 normal, P4, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Master , Subscribe to email notification for serials needs user login
18:01 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 11934: (follow-up) tidy up whitespace
18:01 jenkins_koha  * Nicolas Legrand: Bug 11934 - Replace given by if-else statements
18:01 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11366 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Acq basket group "No group" untranslatable
18:01 jenkins_koha  * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11923: fix option to sort contents of MARC record batches by citation descending
18:01 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 11647: (follow-up) add comment expressing that user must be logged in
18:01 jenkins_koha  * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 11647 : (follow-up) Add template modification for bootstrap theme
18:01 jenkins_koha  * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 11647: (follow-up) test if user is logged in before proposing to subscribe or unsubcribe from serial routing list
18:01 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11928 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , table aqorderdelivery seem useless
18:01 jenkins_koha  * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 11647: require that user log into OPAC to request email subscription notifications
18:01 jenkins_koha  * Fridolin Somers: Bug 11366: make "no group" option in acq basket group drop-down translatable
18:01 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 11928: DBRev 3.15.00.025
18:01 jenkins_koha  * Mark Tompsett: Bug 11928 - Remove unused table aqorderdelivery
18:01 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_master build #1663: SUCCESS in 2 hr 20 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1663/
17:55 jenkins_koha  Starting build #389 for job master_maria (previous build: FIXED)
17:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11127 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , OPAC suggestion: the delete link is active when no suggestion selected
17:48 jenkins_koha  * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11127: (follow-up) define a specific message for suggestions
17:48 jenkins_koha  * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11127: OPAC suggestions form - complain when trying to 'delete selected' without having selected any
17:48 jenkins_koha  Project master_maria build #388: FIXED in 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/388/
17:48 wahanui       o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
17:48 jenkins_koha  Yippee, build fixed!
17:47 reiveune1     bye
17:10 bag           so I think maybe yes the baby is on the way today
17:10 bag           well I don't think kyle came to work today
17:10 cait1         and is there a baby now?
17:10 cait1         bag: how is the weather?
17:05 bag           hello cait, magnuse et al  - we have made it to rome
16:59 wahanui       well, magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
16:59 tcohen        magnuse?
16:58 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11386: standardize validation of the subscription add/edit form <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=facbe5155f06408f8978d056fae25b255c647b14> / Bug 11127: (follow-up) define a specific message for suggestions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ce7b11879b850b5302b95a7b7d2f0d15089d9b44> / Bug 11127: OPAC suggestions form - complain when trying to 'delete selected'
16:56 gmcharlt      actually, cleaner just to have a single patch
16:56 tcohen        i'll otherwise attach another patch, and ask for signing
16:55 gmcharlt      tcohen: yeah, may as well
16:55 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9114 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , exported MARC frameworks encoding should be UTF-8
16:55 tcohen        gmcharlt: do u need a qa followup for bug 9114
16:54 jenkins_koha  Starting build #388 for job master_maria (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #386 21 hr ago)
16:36 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11934 trivial, P5 - low, ---, nicolas.legrand, Pushed to Master , Replace given by if-else in Circulation_issuingrules.t
16:36 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11923 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Marc record batches not sorting by citation descending
16:36 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11647 normal, P4, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Master , Subscribe to email notification for serials needs user login
16:36 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 11934: (follow-up) tidy up whitespace
16:36 jenkins_koha  * Nicolas Legrand: Bug 11934 - Replace given by if-else statements
16:36 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11366 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Acq basket group "No group" untranslatable
16:36 jenkins_koha  * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11923: fix option to sort contents of MARC record batches by citation descending
16:36 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 11647: (follow-up) add comment expressing that user must be logged in
16:36 jenkins_koha  * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 11647 : (follow-up) Add template modification for bootstrap theme
16:36 jenkins_koha  * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 11647: (follow-up) test if user is logged in before proposing to subscribe or unsubcribe from serial routing list
16:36 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11928 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , table aqorderdelivery seem useless
16:36 jenkins_koha  * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 11647: require that user log into OPAC to request email subscription notifications
16:36 jenkins_koha  * Fridolin Somers: Bug 11366: make "no group" option in acq basket group drop-down translatable
16:36 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 11928: DBRev 3.15.00.025
16:36 jenkins_koha  * Mark Tompsett: Bug 11928 - Remove unused table aqorderdelivery
16:36 jenkins_koha  Project master_maria build #387: UNSTABLE in 57 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/387/
16:29 * magnuse     calls it a day - have fun #koha!
16:28 magnuse       so if we are 4 times more effective tomorrow we *can* make it below 100 ;-)
16:27 magnuse       fresh numbers, straight from the dashboard: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Marseille_hackfest_2014#Thursday_morning needs signoff is down by 6
16:20 magnuse       talljoy: cool!
16:16 talljoy       oh yes.  that is on my to do list. thanks for the reminder
16:16 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2499 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, Needs Signoff , Improvement on text wrapping algorithm needed
16:16 magnuse       talljoy: could you have a look at the last comment on bug 2499? thanks!
16:05 * cait1       broke the fix
15:57 magnuse       cait++
15:52 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10542 critical, P1 - high, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , QueryParser + OpacSuppression doesn't allow search in 'all libraries'
15:52 cait1         and moving on to ... bug 10542
15:43 jenkins_koha  Starting build #1663 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:42 cait1         :)
15:42 pianohacker   gmcharlt: sweet! And that diagram looks right, it's just missing the two left feet
15:41 gmcharlt      http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1iGMnJCW7Ec/TKFjfx_id0I/AAAAAAABeYo/5SFv_xb6sAU/s1600/tango_diagram.jpg
15:41 gmcharlt      this, then, is the diagram of the nightly fines process?
15:41 gmcharlt      pianohacker: I like it
15:41 cait1         gmcharlt++
15:40 pianohacker   gmcharlt: I came up with an even better name than task after some discussion, routine. Each cronjob is a routine, with zero or more jobs.
15:39 jenkins_koha  Starting build #387 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:35 magnuse       lol
15:34 gmcharlt      ;)
15:34 gmcharlt      magnuse: for shame! we can never have more patches for Koha!
15:34 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11934: (follow-up) tidy up whitespace <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3a99c0441a7400ddc2437300b94a98e645c89881> / Bug 11934 - Replace given by if-else statements <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=12df62ca33047df0c5cd372bf5574cf131f773e0> / Bug 11923: fix option to sort contents of MARC record batches by citation descending <http://git.koha-community.org/git
15:32 pianohacker   the queue needs input and output :)
15:32 pianohacker   magnuse++
15:28 * magnuse     adds another patch to "needs signoff" and hangs his head in shame
15:22 dpavlin       pianohacker++
15:22 huginn        dpavlin: The operation succeeded.
15:22 dpavlin       @later tell marcelr I *MIGHT* have re-order bug 9032 in some strange way but they do apply as attached to bug right now
15:20 pianohacker   dpavlin: @later tell marcelr
15:20 huginn        dpavlin: I've exhausted my database of quotes
15:20 dpavlin       @later marcelr I *MIGHT* have re-order bug 9032 in some strange way but they do apply as attached to bug right now
15:18 cait1         german authority file
15:18 magnuse       what's gnd again?
15:18 magnuse       cool
15:17 cait1         sparql endpoint to gnd?
15:16 cait1         [off] http://zbw.eu/beta/sparql/gnd
15:16 cait1         magnuse: found something on the internet
14:59 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11127 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , OPAC suggestion: the delete link is active when no suggestion selected
14:59 cait1         going for bug 11127 again
14:43 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9032 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Share a list
14:43 magnuse       bug 9032
14:42 marcelr       have to go
14:42 marcelr       dpavlin++ #thanks for 9032
14:38 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10090 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , the ordered and spent page display the itemtype code
14:37 magnuse       bug 10090
14:36 cait1         marcelr: ashimema: starting 10090 again now
14:35 pianohacker   "Mm, yes, quite"
14:35 pianohacker   "Excellent pairing of that cheese and the dark bread I'd say, wouldn't you?"
14:35 * cait1       might throw some of the packaged cookies at pianohacker
14:35 cait1         well not right now
14:35 cait1         she is not!
14:35 pianohacker   "Oh, and the German's going to the cookie table"
14:35 wahanui       cait1: excuse me?
14:35 cait1         wahanui no more cookies for you
14:35 pianohacker   We're going to liveblog all of your eating now
14:34 cait1         what??
14:32 wahanui       i think cheese is delicious, but cait just had butter.
14:32 magnuse       cheese?
14:15 wahanui       logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/
14:15 tcohen        logs?
14:13 * pianohacker wonders what happened 15 hours, 21 minutes and 28 seconds ago...
14:12 huginn        pianohacker: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 15 hours, 22 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> ... not in 45 seconds we can't
14:12 pianohacker   @seen gmcharlt
14:05 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11699 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , notes entered when receiving are not saved
14:05 marcelr       bug 11699
14:05 cait1         marcelr: going to look at 11699 now
14:03 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8868 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , ILS-DI: CancelHold needs to take a reserve_id
14:03 marcelr       Looking at bug 8868 (again)
14:03 huginn        04Bug 10542: critical, P1 - high, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , QueryParser + OpacSuppression doesn't allow search in 'all libraries'
14:03 cait1         http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10542
14:03 cait1         dpavlin++
13:50 pianohacker   magnuse: thanks
13:50 magnuse       pianohacker: yesterday, gmcharlt said "still workingo n DBIC examples"
13:50 pianohacker   ah, circ/renew.pl and Koha::List::Patron use it
13:49 magnuse       pianohacker: true!
13:46 pianohacker   okay, cool. My understanding is that all new developments will be encouraged to use DBIx::Class, so it would be good to know what the standards will be for that
13:45 magnuse       pianohacker: i think gmcharlt is working on some examples
13:43 magnuse       ashimema++
13:42 nlegrand      tcohen: ok :)
13:42 tcohen        nlegrand: fixed version attached
13:40 pianohacker   *how we use C4::Schema/DBIx::Class?
13:40 pianohacker   are there any good bugs/documents showing how we try
13:39 tcohen        nlegrand: thanks for trying it, I missed something, uploading in a couple of minutes
13:38 cait1         i think there is a meeting about French documentation right now :)
13:37 cait1         for sophie_m1 - she was asking :)
13:37 cait1         https://wiki.bsz-bw.de/doku.php?id=l-team:koha:koha-handbuch:start
13:37 tcohen        http://es.koha-community.org/manual
13:36 tcohen        es.koha-community.org/manual
13:35 cait1         likewhere it#s done?
13:35 cait1         tcohen: can you say where to find the trnaslation for hte manual?
13:35 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11148 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Two routines are useless in Koha::DateUtils
13:35 marcelr       looking at bug 11148 now
13:33 tcohen        nlegrand: checking
13:30 huginn        04Bug 11912: minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , GetMarcISBN wrongly prepends a space to ISBNs
13:30 nlegrand      tcohen: I just had a look at http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11912 here is the output of Biblio.t: http://pastebin.com/MLiXMwUx (unimarc settings)
13:27 cait1         we should have a webcam here - there is a big poster on the wall where we write the numbers :)
13:27 marcelr       ok
13:27 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11551 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Allow to search on ordernumber in histsearch.pl
13:27 cait1         marcelr: i am on bug 11551 now
13:24 * cait1       suspects magnuse
13:23 cait1         we're not sure
13:22 francharb     who broke the internet?
13:21 cait1         well... yeah
13:20 magnuse       well not broken, but the internet is not stable enough to take the chance...
13:18 cait1         we'd send cheese or pizza... but the teleporter is broken
13:17 magnuse       tcohen: there is a nice, big ++ waiting for you if you sign something off ;-)
13:15 tcohen        morning cait1
13:14 cait1         morning tcohen :)
13:13 * tcohen      heads into the signing queue
13:12 magnuse       tcohen: sure! :-)
13:08 tcohen        is it GBSD magnuse?
13:04 magnuse       ...and so should everyone else! :-)
12:58 magnuse       hope to sign off at least one more patch before the day is done, though
12:58 magnuse       and i'm trying to ressurect some old code of mine at the moment
12:58 * magnuse     has just eaten pizza, in fact
12:54 marcelr       get it down, magnuse !
12:53 wahanui       somebody said magnuse was afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
12:53 druthb        magnuse!
12:53 magnuse_      "needs signoff" is going up!
12:52 wahanui       Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
12:52 magnuse_      druthb!
12:46 huginn        druthb: The current temperature in Briargrove Park, Houston, Texas is 3.8°C (7:46 AM CDT on March 13, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Falling).  Wind Advisory in effect until 6 PM CDT this evening... 
12:46 druthb        @wunder 77063
12:45 huginn        cait1: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 18.7°C (1:45 PM CET on March 13, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 10%. Dew Point: -14.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Falling).
12:45 cait1         @wunder Marseille
12:37 cait1         seems being outsie of the hackfest is a bit better for productvity today :)
12:37 marcelr       hi cait1
12:36 cait1         marcelr++
12:34 francharb     ;)
12:34 * francharb   waves back at cait1
12:34 * cait1       waves at francharb
12:22 magnuse_      photo time!
12:21 magnuse_      with cheese
12:21 magnuse_      nope, pizza
12:11 francharb     :)
12:11 francharb     I guess
12:10 marcelr       it is quiet here; they are eating cheese in marseille probably ..
12:09 marcelr       hi francharb
12:02 francharb     good morning
10:58 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9032 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Share a list
10:58 * marcelr     hopes for a volunteer in marseille to look at bug 9032
10:47 vfernandes    it's possible to restraint one search in Koha? for example i want to search for records that has a subject "Information" but not "Information*"
10:40 vfernandes    hello :)
10:40 bag           :)
10:40 bag           I can tell you that it applies cleanly
10:39 bag           I was just applying that bug - but looks like you got your teeth into it
10:39 bag           cool ashimema :)
10:36 ashimema      time to get to grips with how all the plack bugs and off bug implimentations fit together
10:34 nlegrand      magnuse: thanks for showing 10788 :) I'm in CC now ^^
10:33 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11934 trivial, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , Replace given by if-else in Circulation_issuingrules.t
10:33 ashimema      super simple qa for someone: bug 11934
10:32 magnuse       ooh, lucky ashimema
10:31 ashimema      that'll probably end up being me
10:31 ashimema      :S
10:31 dpavlin       magnuse++
10:28 magnuse       yeah, i envy the qa person that gets the pleasure of looking at 7844
10:27 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7844 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Signed Off , plack scripts for developers
10:27 dpavlin       bug 7844 looking for QA... It's a pleasure to develop with plack, everybody should try it ;-)
10:23 magnuse       wooho
10:21 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable
10:21 bag           bug 11703
10:20 magnuse       :-)
10:20 magnuse       sort of, kind of
10:19 magnuse       well, an evolution of that
10:18 petter        ?
10:18 petter        https://github.com/MagnusEnger/semantikoha
10:18 petter        magnus: is it semantikoha?
10:17 petter        go go go!
10:17 magnuse       (hopefully)
10:17 magnuse       (which is my little side project, not related to the work being done at oslo public library. but of course it would all play well together)
10:16 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10788 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, NEW , Add a Linked Data/RDF browser to the OPAC
10:16 magnuse       which reminds me, i should wrap up a patch for bug 10788
10:14 nlegrand      \o/
10:13 magnuse       hooray for rdf!
10:10 petter        in 6 months time
10:10 petter        Sorry, for RDF
10:10 petter        For RFID, maybe we can get something to show in 6 months time
10:10 petter        But for now, we will have focus on RFID & migrations..
10:09 bag           yes that is cool
10:08 petter        And, most importantly, all our data
10:08 petter        We will share all our work
10:08 nlegrand      :)
10:08 petter        I hope more libraries will follow:)
10:08 petter        cool!
10:07 nlegrand      petter: add some talk with my boss (Benjamin Guichard), his main remark was he was very interesting by your projects of cataloguing in RDF first :)
10:07 petter        mornin brendan!
10:05 ashimema      right.. someone go test his patch ;)
10:05 ashimema      yeay nlegrand...
10:05 bag           hey good morning petter
10:04 wahanui       bidet, JesseM_
10:04 JesseM_       Hi
10:03 petter        hei nicolas!
10:03 nlegrand      hey petter o/
10:03 huginn        04Bug 11934: trivial, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , Replace given by if-else in Circulation_issuingrules.t
10:03 nlegrand      ok updated with better diff :) http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11934
10:00 petter        But I wish I was still in sunny Marseille
10:00 petter        yea, it went ok
10:00 magnuse_      did you have a good trip home?
09:59 petter        bonjor!
09:59 magnuse_      bonjour petter!
09:56 nlegrand      ><
09:55 nlegrand      erf, i left a default...
09:49 huginn        04Bug 11934: trivial, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , Replace given by if-else in Circulation_issuingrules.t
09:49 nlegrand      so, here we go, my first koha patch, proposed by ashimema and cait in kohafest :), I'm ready for comments ^^ http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11934
09:44 pianohacker   cait: ping when you are ready
09:41 pianohacker   c'est boom
09:28 pianohacker   hi cait1
09:28 cait1         pianohacker: :P
09:27 pianohacker   cait++
09:27 pianohacker   there we go
09:27 pianohacker   cait: get on my wifi dangit
09:22 cait          good night rangi
09:21 rangi         now im  going to sleep
09:21 bag           magnuse: HI
09:21 bag           yup
09:21 rangi         its ridinkydonk
09:21 rangi         cos you can literally put anything in the requested action
09:21 rangi         then you have to write an english parser
09:20 rangi         because you have to parse the xml
09:20 pianohacker   dear lord
09:20 rangi         its worse
09:20 pianohacker   how large a pile? XSLT, SOAP, or SAML?
09:19 rangi         aka a pile of XML crap
09:19 pianohacker   oh lord
09:19 rangi         NCIP
09:19 pianohacker   rangi: dare I ask what you're looking at?
09:17 rangi         https://twitter.com/ranginui/status/443900767594749952
09:17 pianohacker   also correct
09:17 bag           and that code isn't in master correct?
09:16 pianohacker   none of it
09:16 pianohacker   bag: nope
09:16 bag           on your pazpar2 integration - are you using any of the old pazpar2 code?
09:15 mrenvoize     don't we all wahanui
09:15 wahanui       I HATE XML
09:15 bag           hey pianohacker
09:14 bag           cait yes no breaking of stuff
09:14 ashimema      it'll be nice to see the wood for the trees
09:13 bag           well wait - yes that would include whole files too :)
09:13 cait          :)
09:13 * ashimema    likes the idea of some purging..
09:13 cait          and try not to break stuff!!
09:13 cait          i think that should be just removing the lines then :)
09:13 bag           yeah not whole files cait - I'm thinking of just removing some of the old pazpar2 stuff
09:12 cait          on files you remove
09:12 cait          bag: hm just to use git rm i think
09:12 ashimema      would be good for the qa team to see a few of those for comparative reasons
09:11 bag           anybody here ever submit a patch to remove code?  I haven't - but it doesn't seem like it is anything too different - is there something that I should know?
09:11 ashimema      That's a cool idea magnuse.. may point out some 'heavy' commits
09:06 cait          go nlegrand :)
09:05 ashimema      s/puring/purging/g
09:04 ashimema      :)
09:04 ashimema      we've got a n00b working on puring given/when from the codebase...  go nicolas
09:01 pianohacker   good morning might be a bit of an exaggeration actually
09:00 bag           morning pianohacker
08:59 pianohacker   good morning
08:56 bag           hello
08:54 rangi         what khall_away has to look foward to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98LoiMZ59Jw
08:41 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11927 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Add greek chr lang_def file
08:41 magnuse       ooh, a signoff for bug 11927 would be nice - new developer! :-)
08:39 Oak           magnuse++
08:39 Oak           ah cool. thanks!
08:38 magnuse       nlegrand: cool!
08:38 magnuse       Oak: find the list of "needs signoff", go to the bottom, click on "Change columns", add "patch complexity" to the list of displayed columns, click the "change columns" button, sort the list by "patch complexity" and start digging into the "trivial" patches :-)
08:38 nlegrand      magnuse: in the next months I'm going to try the update of BULAC koha from 3.2 to 3.1[46], I may try to bench different versions with our Koha
08:36 nlegrand      magnuse: I like the idea :)
08:35 Oak           no no. not fix. the other thing.
08:35 cait          trying to find an easy bug to fix for a first committer... any ideas anyone? :)
08:35 cait          i really have no overview right now :)
08:34 Oak           sure sure np.
08:34 cait          maybe go to the dashboard and look for one?
08:34 Oak           okay cool.
08:34 cait          Oak: bit hard right now to tell - so many things going on
08:34 cait          :)
08:34 cait          rangi: showing ashimema the link you posted earlier
08:34 magnuse       after all the performance discussions in marseille and on irc, i was thinking maybe it would be nice to have some tool that could go x commits back in koha history, run some performance tests for the code at that point, go one (or 5 or 10) step forward in history, run the tests again, step forward, run the tests and so on, and then report on how performance changes from step to step?
08:34 Oak           so cait, I have a bit of free time, can I sign-off some easy bug(s)? I mean if you know the number...
08:32 cait          hi Oak :)
08:32 magnuse       :-)
08:32 Oak           \o/
08:31 magnuse       Oak
08:31 Oak           hello cait :)
08:31 Oak           kai ora #koha
08:31 Oak           magnuse
08:29 ashimema      looks shiny
08:25 cait          rangi: very cool!
08:25 wahanui       privet, gaetan_B
08:25 gaetan_B      hello
08:24 bag           bye bye you all
08:23 magnuse       bag: HI
08:22 rangi         [off] https://library.niwa.co.nz/  try changing the drop down to discovery then searching
08:21 ashimema      :)
08:21 ashimema      no idea yet why I couldn't use more than one param
08:21 rangi         will do
08:21 ashimema      anywho.. give me a shout if you want more details in the reports svc bug..
08:20 cait          looks nice
08:20 cait          :)
08:19 ashimema      still can't get your page rangi.. but cait can next to me
08:19 ashimema      the internet doesn't like me today..
08:19 bag           ok pianohacker is out of the shower - we will see you all shortly
08:18 bag           oh man I read that as training slash...  and was lost for a bit...  oh yeah umm...  wait..  magnuse HI
08:17 ashimema      didn't.. trying with trailing slash now
08:17 rangi         have a trailing slash?
08:16 * ashimema    hits refresh again
08:15 magnuse       worked for me
08:14 ashimema      rangi.. was that 'informed professional' page meant to be live.. I get a 404
08:12 magnuse       bag: HI
08:12 bag           magnuse: HI
08:12 ashimema      hense why i've been looking at it for a while.. been qaing in lots of small spurts
08:12 bag           moring sophie_m
08:12 magnuse       129 needs signoff - can we get below 100 before the hackfest is over? (and keep it there...)
08:12 bag           big ones happen - and it takes a village to get them in :P
08:12 cait          hi sophie_m  - starting with your patch this morning :)
08:12 ashimema      indeed
08:12 cait          magnuse: we also got a small dent into the qa queue :)
08:12 sophie_m      hello
08:12 bag           ashimema: too big
08:11 ashimema      this may take me some time..
08:11 magnuse       bag: HI
08:11 magnuse       yay, "needs signoff" is dwn by 3 since last i checked: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Marseille_hackfest_2014#Wednesday_afternoon
08:11 ashimema      bag: oh yeah, i've been looking at that one for a while.. it's biiiiig ;)
08:11 rangi         hmmm
08:11 bag           magnuse: I think I am 5 second tom this morning
08:11 magnuse       oh la di da
08:11 ashimema      oh la magnuse
08:10 ashimema      was I being stupid?
08:10 ashimema      i qa'd the reports svc stuff yesterday rangi.. I couldn't get it working with more than one param..
08:10 magnuse       bag: HI
08:10 bag           magnuse: HI
08:10 * magnuse     waves in no particular language
08:10 huginn        04Bug 6427: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Rewrite of the accounts system
08:10 bag           ashimema: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6427
08:09 nlegrand      hiya #koha o/
08:09 cait          bag: are yo ustealing my qa m... assistant?
08:08 rangi         [off] http://library.nzica.com/informed-professional/ <--- koha reports /opac/svc/report (comes out in JSON)  and some angular.js .. check the source code, going live tonight .. they can update their bulletion by tagging things in the catalogue in 901
08:08 bag           ahh pfffft
08:08 ashimema      got a bug number ;)
08:08 ashimema      i can do that..
08:08 bag           from khall
08:07 bag           ashimema: it was test the accountlines rewrite
08:07 ashimema      what was I going to do today?
08:06 ashimema      right.. onward and upward...
08:06 cait          it's a bit scary
08:06 cait          he has a mean giggle
08:04 ashimema      .me giggles uncontrolably
08:04 cait          oh and tell pianohacker i have headphones waiting for him
08:04 ashimema      hehe
08:04 huginn        rangi: Quote #250: "<cjh> This code smells of wine." (added by wizzyrea at 04:52 AM, May 24, 2013)
08:04 rangi         @quote get 250
08:03 ashimema      i'm working on hangover.. staving it off with coffee
08:03 bag           ha
08:02 ashimema      sometimes that's good, somtimes that's bad..
08:02 ashimema      though my code is dancing :S
08:02 ashimema      indeed.. I feel great this morning ;)
08:02 bag           rangi: I think the hangover will kick in - in a few hours
08:02 ashimema      good morning rangi
08:02 ashimema      indeed..
08:02 rangi         ashimema: you only get hungover when you stop
08:02 ashimema      coffee :))))
08:02 bag           yes yes it wasn't the best of ideas
08:01 ashimema      good morning bag :)
08:01 bag           good morning ashimema
08:01 * ashimema    thinks that maybe the last drink last night wasn't such a good idea
08:01 rangi         drink more coffee
08:01 ashimema      mehhhhh
07:59 cait          :)
07:59 cait          and i need jesse -  he is my wifi hot spot, make him hurry up
07:59 cait          just teasing :)
07:59 bag           cait I am never a bad influence, it was a group of people
07:58 wahanui       I LIKE BASEBALL
07:58 bag           me?
07:57 bag           pianohacker is taking a shower - once he's done we will come up to biblibre
07:57 cait          i have heard oyu have been a bad influence on martin
07:57 cait          aha
07:57 bag           in bed :P
07:57 cait          where are you hiding?
07:57 cait          we will keep sending positive thoughts then
07:57 cait          aah
07:57 cait          maybe tomorrow then
07:57 bag           according to kyle - today is the day
07:57 bag           yes everything else is ok
07:56 cait          but everyhtin gis ok?
07:56 cait          oh :(
07:56 bag           cait - no baby
07:56 bag           good mornig
07:38 wahanui       kai ora, reiveune
07:38 reiveune      hello
07:28 cait          hi marcelr :)
07:27 marcelr       :)
07:27 rangi         hi marcelr
07:27 marcelr       hi #koha
06:24 wahanui       goodnight dcook. You'll be back.
06:24 dcook         Night all.
06:24 dcook         All right. Time to power down.
06:19 dcook         For their awesome Perl knowledge :)
06:19 dcook         rangi++
06:19 dcook         eythian++
06:07 dcook         Actually, after re-reading that FAQ, I think I might understand..
06:06 dcook         I don't think I've ever seen that before
06:06 rangi         (going home)
06:06 rangi         he backgrounded himself
06:05 dcook         Yay for students!
06:05 dcook         eythian: What was that?
06:05 rangi         im sure there are more though
06:05 rangi         colin campbell killed a bunch
06:05 * eythian     &
06:04 dcook         The logs, that would be why
06:04 dcook         Ah
06:04 dcook         I suppose I don't use them very often though
06:03 dcook         Hmm, I run a few test Kohas on Wheezy
06:03 dcook         eythian: I was just reading that, hehe
06:03 rangi         filling up the error log
06:03 eythian       dcook: http://learn.perl.org/faq/perlfaq4.html#What-is-the-difference-between-a-list-and-an-array-
06:03 rangi         try running koha on wheezy, you'll find them fast
06:03 dcook         I love how every time I think I've seen every bit of Koha, there's a new part that emerges :p
06:03 rangi         we have some given when
06:02 dcook         I didn't realize that we actually had any of those left either. Huh..
06:02 rangi         yeah
06:02 eythian       ah yeah, and smartmatch
06:02 rangi         she could hunt down the prototypes, and given when constructs
06:02 dcook         Still not sure I get the difference between array and list, unfortunately :(
06:02 rangi         i need to remember that for next time i have aleisha in at the office
06:01 dcook         Makes sense :)
06:01 rangi         if you need to, rethink what you are trying to do :)
06:01 rangi         best practices say just dont use them
06:00 rangi         yeah
06:00 eythian       they have uses, but in very niche cases that we should be avoiding anyway.
06:00 dcook         They seem like they could be handy I suppose, but probably best to be used sparingly?
06:00 rangi         spcially if they used to program in c
05:59 rangi         people often misunderstand what they are for
05:59 rangi         i never found one that was necessary
05:59 eythian       43:sub token_negligible_p( $ ) { for example
05:59 eythian       Most of them seem to be unnecessary
05:59 rangi         yeah, i did a purge a couple of years ago
05:58 eythian       so not too bad
05:58 eythian       I count 4 in koha
05:58 eythian       oh yeah, there are some
05:58 rangi         perlcritic hates them, and yells
05:57 rangi         so they get removed whenever a piece of code is touched
05:57 dcook         There used to be
05:57 rangi         the qa suite fails when it sees them
05:57 dcook         Ah, they may no longer be there then
05:57 dcook         In that case, there are totes prototypes in Koha
05:57 rangi         i went through ripping out prototypes
05:57 eythian       sub mypush (+@) is a sub called mypush with a prototype "+@"
05:56 eythian       In general they're to be avoided as they run the risk of making everything more confusing.
05:56 dcook         is "mypush (+@)" a prototype or is it just "(+@)"?
05:56 eythian       they're really only good if you want to make a function behave like a builtin in some way, because it makes something a whole lot more convenient.
05:56 dcook         Yeah, I think I'm wrong about that
05:56 dcook         Maybe they mean something different than I think..
05:56 dcook         Ah, maybe I'm wrong about the prototypes
05:56 eythian       hrm, I'd hope Koha isn't using them, but it could well be.
05:55 dcook         Mmm, I've seen them around Koha on occasion and wondered what they were..
05:54 eythian       http://perldoc.perl.org/perlsub.html#Prototypes
05:54 eythian       don't use prototypes though.
05:54 eythian       it's sorta like using prototypes, so it says "the array on the left will be an array reference"
05:53 dcook         I was wondering about this magic!
05:52 eythian       rule of thumb is that most places you see "@something", you can expand it to a list of its elements. The left hand side of push is an exception, as it's treated like an array rather than a list through magic.
05:51 dcook         Indeed. That makes things a lot more slick.
05:50 eythian       push @array, (1,2,3) is identical to @x=(1,2,3); push @array, @x
05:49 eythian       yep
05:48 dcook         Or is this one of those array v. list moments..
05:48 dcook         Ooo I didn't know you could use "push" to push an array onto the end of another array
05:40 dcook         I figure that's really the only option besides truncating it though
05:40 dcook         Ack, I mean it could be "unexpected"
05:40 huginn        eythian: The operation succeeded.
05:40 eythian       @later tell bag new code with paging and stuff.
05:40 eythian       yeah, I think that's about the best you can do, short of truncating it.
05:39 dcook         I suppose a line that barely fits into a single line now will be instead split into two which could be expected..
05:39 dcook         Well...
05:39 dcook         Shouldn't be any..
05:38 dcook         I've got call numbers wrapping (rather than going outside their guideboxes) but it's inelegant and I wonder about possible repercussions for call numbers I'm not seeing right now..
05:37 dcook         \o/
05:35 eythian       huh, paging was easier than expected.
05:23 dcook         My terminal is still on the man page for 'batch' :p
05:23 dcook         Yeah, that's mainly how I use np++ these days. Not sure why I'm using it at the moment for some quick debugging..
05:22 eythian       I mostly work in vim, but sometimes use gedit as a scratchpad to throw data into to have a look at it.
05:21 eythian       yeah
05:21 dcook         I use it from time to time but can't recall
05:21 dcook         Is gedit a ctrl+s as well?
05:20 eythian       I do that all the time in gedit
05:18 dcook         You know you've been using Vim a while when you try to save in notepad++ with ":w"
05:11 rangi         :)
05:11 eythian       Now to throw together a terrible UI for it.
05:11 eythian       I now have paging working for ES :)
05:08 huginn        rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (6:00 PM NZDT on March 13, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
05:08 rangi         @wunder nzwn
03:56 wizzyrea      pretty good really
03:56 wizzyrea      18's not terrible
03:54 dcook         I think I preferred the slightly cooler and cloudier morning...
03:54 huginn        dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 23.0°C (2:30 PM EST on March 13, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
03:54 dcook         @wunder sydney, australia
03:53 huginn        eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (4:30 PM NZDT on March 13, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
03:53 eythian       @wunder nzwn
03:53 eythian       computer says 18 outside
03:52 wizzyrea      dumbdumbdumb
03:52 wizzyrea      why did I do that! This is wellington!@
03:51 wizzyrea      darnit I'm going to be so cold going home I left my jacket at home today.
03:49 * wizzyrea    is not sure how much, besides rain, it will annoy wellington
03:47 wizzyrea      looks kind of like it will cross the coromandel and then annoy taranaki quite a bit
03:45 mtj           looks quite… swirly  tho :/
03:45 mtj           woah, i love the visualisation on that last pic
03:42 dcook         Oh boy. That looks like fun...
03:41 wizzyrea      yay?
03:41 wizzyrea      phew, that'll be juuuust about the right direction to blow straight into my house.
03:38 eythian       http://earth.nullschool.net/#2014/03/15/2100Z/wind/surface/level/orthographic=175,-30,1305 <-- there will be this for a while
03:34 wizzyrea      oh it's gonna skirt down the west coast, that's novel
03:33 dcook         I didn't realize it was about weather...
03:32 * dcook       heard naked
03:32 wizzyrea      just go naked.
03:32 rangi         that works better in wellington
03:32 rangi         wetsuit
03:32 wizzyrea      yeah, naw.
03:32 eythian       I have a wooly hat, that's almost the same, right?
03:31 wizzyrea      you need one of those tent poncho things
03:31 eythian       yeah. I think I'll pack a jacket.
03:31 wahanui       Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot.
03:31 wizzyrea      never mind.
03:31 wizzyrea      oh wait it's wellington
03:31 * wizzyrea    offers an umbrella
03:31 rangi         gonna be a slippery ride, if all that rain comes down sat night
03:31 rangi         hehe
03:31 eythian       http://www.bikethetrail.co.nz/ <-- guess who is going to be standing around for a few hours doing comms and first aid etc. for this on Sunday morning...
03:30 rangi         http://metservice.com/maps-radar/satellite/tasman-sea-nz-infrared is quite impressive
03:30 wizzyrea      because rain + running the dryer = wet house
03:30 wizzyrea      lol, I had a request in for laundry to be more/less done today
03:30 rangi         dont put any clothes on the line after 10am saturday :)
03:29 wizzyrea      auckland might get hit pretty hard :/
03:29 rangi         http://metservice.com/maps-radar/rain-forecast/rain-forecast-3-day
03:28 rangi         yep
03:28 eythian       Supposed to hit sat/sun isn't it?
03:27 rangi         (thats hurricane lusi up there)
03:27 rangi         i think it might rain tomorrow
03:27 rangi         http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=175,-30,1305
02:51 dcook         I think so
02:51 dcook         I mean...provided it happens before the library opens or after it closes..
02:51 eythian       yeah. daily/weekly/monthly makes a lot of sense really.
02:50 dcook         I do wonder about how much a librarian would need to use time to be honest
02:50 dcook         That's pretty neat, eythian
02:48 eythian       could also use the 'batch' command.
02:48 eythian       Part of the benefit of scheduled reports is that you can run them when system load is low.
02:47 dcook         eythian: I'm pretty sure. I just can't remember it :p.
02:47 eythian       every minute? eww.
02:47 wajasu        have cronjob that runs scheduler every minute.  query for scheduled jobs/tasks.  based on task, execute it.  have a special scheduleReport task that can run reports and  store results.  users can get feedback in UI about  report being ready and jump to report browser and export, etc.
02:46 eythian       it has a proverb?
02:46 dcook         At the very least, we should probably disable the task scheduler..
02:45 dcook         Oh the proverbial position of writing a community patch or doing a quick fix locally
02:44 dcook         Or have it run frequently checking times for a fancier version
02:44 eythian       yeah, it would be.
02:44 dcook         Have a daily, weekly, monthly setting and that is probably good enough
02:44 dcook         I kind of like gmcharlt's idea about having a db table where you can add reports
02:43 dcook         Nicholas's fix for the runreport.pl html header makes it seem that it works
02:43 dcook         Yeah, that's the proposal that I just sent on our tracker
02:43 wizzyrea      they may not be scheduling anything to run through the interface though
02:43 wizzyrea      to er, run reports
02:43 wizzyrea      certainly I think there are people using runreport.pl as a cronjob
02:43 dcook         eythian: Looks that way. I never really thought about it until now.
02:41 eythian       but I've never really looked too closely
02:41 eythian       task scheduler has long been broken, I think
02:33 wizzyrea      good heavens, that's a bug.
02:31 wizzyrea      that is ancient.
02:31 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1993 major, P3, ---, sophie.meynieux, In Discussion , Task Scheduler Needs Re-write
02:31 dcook         wizzyrea: Looks like I should've looked at bug 1993
02:14 dcook         A smarter task scheduler would be good
02:14 wajasu        i also asked if i should submit my patch, but I wasn't sure if it would pass security these days.  I think they really want a smarter task scheduler.  I started to write one but got sidetracked.
02:14 dcook         In that case, we might just have to do some homegrown cron ourselves
02:11 wizzyrea      it could well be broken
02:11 dcook         wizzyrea: Thanks. I'll have to harrass them later.
02:11 dcook         wajasu: The tests are run without arguments, so they don't seem to really be "doing" anything
02:10 wizzyrea      eythian and rangi aren't around right now, I'm sure they can tell you more
02:10 wajasu        i looked into the scheduler on my master a week ago.  it seems broken, though the test runs.  i think it has to do with the fact that the test is not run as the apache user www-data and some other things.
02:07 dcook         "Yes" as in you use the Task Scheduler or "Yes" I'm crazy?
02:07 dcook         Good question
02:07 bag           yes dcook - what the f#$# am I doing awake
02:06 dcook         Well that's...less than helpful I think...
02:06 * dcook       pokes around for a C4::Scheduler test..
02:05 dcook         The "at" command seems kind of cool
02:04 wizzyrea      yep
02:04 dcook         I'm sure most libraries could actually benefit from that in some capacity
02:04 dcook         I would love to have one of our clients able to run reports days/weekly/monthly...
02:03 wizzyrea      we may, I'm not sure.
02:03 wizzyrea      I am pretty sure bywater has some clients using it.
02:03 dcook         Nor why scheduler.pl has code for recurring reports when the interface doesn't seem to support that..
02:03 dcook         wizzyrea: Have you seen the product of the Task Scheduler? Given that command path, I don't see how it could possibly work :S
02:02 bag           yes
02:01 dcook         I forgot that last time I saw you we were probably in the same timezone as your family, yeah?
02:01 bag           so why would I not be awake?
02:00 bag           well at home it's 7pm
01:59 dcook         So why the late night?
01:58 dcook         In both sense of the word I guess..
01:58 dcook         Chouette :D
01:58 bag           yup yes oui
01:57 dcook         bag: I was just about to ask if you were still actually in France ;)
01:57 wizzyrea      ;)
01:57 wizzyrea      0257
01:57 bag           but yes dcook where I am - it is 0300
01:57 wizzyrea      yeah, basically you schedule the job, if your user is in the at allowed users, then you set up the cronjob to do the jobs at the right time
01:57 dcook         scheduler.pl still says "/tools/runreport.pl" though O_o
01:56 dcook         Wait, cronjobs
01:56 wizzyrea      I think it's scheduler that does it
01:56 dcook         runreport.pl that is
01:55 dcook         I think it's in bin in a standard install
01:55 wizzyrea      it sure should exist.
01:55 dcook         bag: That's not too bad then.
01:55 wizzyrea      ^ this exchange happens at least once a month
01:54 bag           dcook: - the timestamp on my irc client says 18:54pm
01:54 dcook         But /intranet/cgi-bin/tools/runreport.pl doesn't even exist :S
01:54 wizzyrea      hehe
01:54 wahanui       I saw it on Digg!
01:54 wizzyrea      it's true.
01:54 wahanui       wizzyrea is a fan of selecting hunks for committing.
01:54 bag           heya wizzyrea
01:54 wizzyrea      also hi bag
01:54 wizzyrea      group
01:54 wizzyrea      it does work, if you add the koha user to the at users
01:54 bag           I think in the last 4 nights I have gotten about 12 hours of sleep
01:53 bag           damn it - 4 nights in a row
01:53 bag           oh no is it really 3am
01:53 bag           hey dcook
01:53 dcook         Jesus...2:53am, bag?
01:52 dcook         The code looks interesting..
01:52 dcook         Seems like it could be useful but I don't know if it even works
01:52 * dcook       wonders if anyone actually uses the "Task Scheduler"
01:52 dcook         Wha?
01:50 bag           anyone still awake?
01:40 mtompset      Have a great day, #koha rangi eythian wajasu
00:14 rangi         :)
00:13 eythian       http://time.com/19633/kevin-bacon-explains-the-1980s-to-millennials-in-hilarious-80s-awareness-video/ <-- rangi
00:07 rangi         seems fair
00:07 rangi         https://twitter.com/grantmnz/status/443896541820895232/photo/1/large