Time  Nick          Message
00:07 rangi         https://twitter.com/grantmnz/status/443896541820895232/photo/1/large
00:07 rangi         seems fair
00:13 eythian       http://time.com/19633/kevin-bacon-explains-the-1980s-to-millennials-in-hilarious-80s-awareness-video/ <-- rangi
00:14 rangi         :)
01:40 mtompset      Have a great day, #koha rangi eythian wajasu
01:50 bag           anyone still awake?
01:52 dcook         Wha?
01:52 * dcook       wonders if anyone actually uses the "Task Scheduler"
01:52 dcook         Seems like it could be useful but I don't know if it even works
01:52 dcook         The code looks interesting..
01:53 dcook         Jesus...2:53am, bag?
01:53 bag           hey dcook
01:53 bag           oh no is it really 3am
01:53 bag           damn it - 4 nights in a row
01:54 bag           I think in the last 4 nights I have gotten about 12 hours of sleep
01:54 wizzyrea      it does work, if you add the koha user to the at users
01:54 wizzyrea      group
01:54 wizzyrea      also hi bag
01:54 bag           heya wizzyrea
01:54 wahanui       wizzyrea is a fan of selecting hunks for committing.
01:54 wizzyrea      it's true.
01:54 wahanui       I saw it on Digg!
01:54 wizzyrea      hehe
01:54 dcook         But /intranet/cgi-bin/tools/runreport.pl doesn't even exist :S
01:54 bag           dcook: - the timestamp on my irc client says 18:54pm
01:55 wizzyrea      ^ this exchange happens at least once a month
01:55 dcook         bag: That's not too bad then.
01:55 wizzyrea      it sure should exist.
01:55 dcook         I think it's in bin in a standard install
01:56 dcook         runreport.pl that is
01:56 wizzyrea      I think it's scheduler that does it
01:56 dcook         Wait, cronjobs
01:57 dcook         scheduler.pl still says "/tools/runreport.pl" though O_o
01:57 wizzyrea      yeah, basically you schedule the job, if your user is in the at allowed users, then you set up the cronjob to do the jobs at the right time
01:57 bag           but yes dcook where I am - it is 0300
01:57 wizzyrea      0257
01:57 wizzyrea      ;)
01:57 dcook         bag: I was just about to ask if you were still actually in France ;)
01:58 bag           yup yes oui
01:58 dcook         Chouette :D
01:58 dcook         In both sense of the word I guess..
01:59 dcook         So why the late night?
02:00 bag           well at home it's 7pm
02:01 bag           so why would I not be awake?
02:01 dcook         I forgot that last time I saw you we were probably in the same timezone as your family, yeah?
02:02 bag           yes
02:03 dcook         wizzyrea: Have you seen the product of the Task Scheduler? Given that command path, I don't see how it could possibly work :S
02:03 dcook         Nor why scheduler.pl has code for recurring reports when the interface doesn't seem to support that..
02:03 wizzyrea      I am pretty sure bywater has some clients using it.
02:03 wizzyrea      we may, I'm not sure.
02:04 dcook         I would love to have one of our clients able to run reports days/weekly/monthly...
02:04 dcook         I'm sure most libraries could actually benefit from that in some capacity
02:04 wizzyrea      yep
02:05 dcook         The "at" command seems kind of cool
02:06 * dcook       pokes around for a C4::Scheduler test..
02:06 dcook         Well that's...less than helpful I think...
02:07 bag           yes dcook - what the f#$# am I doing awake
02:07 dcook         Good question
02:07 dcook         "Yes" as in you use the Task Scheduler or "Yes" I'm crazy?
02:10 wajasu        i looked into the scheduler on my master a week ago.  it seems broken, though the test runs.  i think it has to do with the fact that the test is not run as the apache user www-data and some other things.
02:10 wizzyrea      eythian and rangi aren't around right now, I'm sure they can tell you more
02:11 dcook         wajasu: The tests are run without arguments, so they don't seem to really be "doing" anything
02:11 dcook         wizzyrea: Thanks. I'll have to harrass them later.
02:11 wizzyrea      it could well be broken
02:14 dcook         In that case, we might just have to do some homegrown cron ourselves
02:14 wajasu        i also asked if i should submit my patch, but I wasn't sure if it would pass security these days.  I think they really want a smarter task scheduler.  I started to write one but got sidetracked.
02:14 dcook         A smarter task scheduler would be good
02:31 dcook         wizzyrea: Looks like I should've looked at bug 1993
02:31 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1993 major, P3, ---, sophie.meynieux, In Discussion , Task Scheduler Needs Re-write
02:31 wizzyrea      that is ancient.
02:33 wizzyrea      good heavens, that's a bug.
02:41 eythian       task scheduler has long been broken, I think
02:41 eythian       but I've never really looked too closely
02:43 dcook         eythian: Looks that way. I never really thought about it until now.
02:43 wizzyrea      certainly I think there are people using runreport.pl as a cronjob
02:43 wizzyrea      to er, run reports
02:43 wizzyrea      they may not be scheduling anything to run through the interface though
02:43 dcook         Yeah, that's the proposal that I just sent on our tracker
02:43 dcook         Nicholas's fix for the runreport.pl html header makes it seem that it works
02:44 dcook         I kind of like gmcharlt's idea about having a db table where you can add reports
02:44 dcook         Have a daily, weekly, monthly setting and that is probably good enough
02:44 eythian       yeah, it would be.
02:44 dcook         Or have it run frequently checking times for a fancier version
02:45 dcook         Oh the proverbial position of writing a community patch or doing a quick fix locally
02:46 dcook         At the very least, we should probably disable the task scheduler..
02:46 eythian       it has a proverb?
02:47 wajasu        have cronjob that runs scheduler every minute.  query for scheduled jobs/tasks.  based on task, execute it.  have a special scheduleReport task that can run reports and  store results.  users can get feedback in UI about  report being ready and jump to report browser and export, etc.
02:47 eythian       every minute? eww.
02:47 dcook         eythian: I'm pretty sure. I just can't remember it :p.
02:48 eythian       Part of the benefit of scheduled reports is that you can run them when system load is low.
02:48 eythian       could also use the 'batch' command.
02:50 dcook         That's pretty neat, eythian
02:50 dcook         I do wonder about how much a librarian would need to use time to be honest
02:51 eythian       yeah. daily/weekly/monthly makes a lot of sense really.
02:51 dcook         I mean...provided it happens before the library opens or after it closes..
02:51 dcook         I think so
03:27 rangi         http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=175,-30,1305
03:27 rangi         i think it might rain tomorrow
03:27 rangi         (thats hurricane lusi up there)
03:28 eythian       Supposed to hit sat/sun isn't it?
03:28 rangi         yep
03:29 rangi         http://metservice.com/maps-radar/rain-forecast/rain-forecast-3-day
03:29 wizzyrea      auckland might get hit pretty hard :/
03:30 rangi         dont put any clothes on the line after 10am saturday :)
03:30 wizzyrea      lol, I had a request in for laundry to be more/less done today
03:30 wizzyrea      because rain + running the dryer = wet house
03:30 rangi         http://metservice.com/maps-radar/satellite/tasman-sea-nz-infrared is quite impressive
03:31 eythian       http://www.bikethetrail.co.nz/ <-- guess who is going to be standing around for a few hours doing comms and first aid etc. for this on Sunday morning...
03:31 rangi         hehe
03:31 rangi         gonna be a slippery ride, if all that rain comes down sat night
03:31 * wizzyrea    offers an umbrella
03:31 wizzyrea      oh wait it's wellington
03:31 wizzyrea      never mind.
03:31 wahanui       Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot.
03:31 eythian       yeah. I think I'll pack a jacket.
03:31 wizzyrea      you need one of those tent poncho things
03:32 eythian       I have a wooly hat, that's almost the same, right?
03:32 wizzyrea      yeah, naw.
03:32 rangi         wetsuit
03:32 rangi         that works better in wellington
03:32 wizzyrea      just go naked.
03:32 * dcook       heard naked
03:33 dcook         I didn't realize it was about weather...
03:34 wizzyrea      oh it's gonna skirt down the west coast, that's novel
03:38 eythian       http://earth.nullschool.net/#2014/03/15/2100Z/wind/surface/level/orthographic=175,-30,1305 <-- there will be this for a while
03:41 wizzyrea      phew, that'll be juuuust about the right direction to blow straight into my house.
03:41 wizzyrea      yay?
03:42 dcook         Oh boy. That looks like fun...
03:45 mtj           woah, i love the visualisation on that last pic
03:45 mtj           looks quite… swirly  tho :/
03:47 wizzyrea      looks kind of like it will cross the coromandel and then annoy taranaki quite a bit
03:49 * wizzyrea    is not sure how much, besides rain, it will annoy wellington
03:51 wizzyrea      darnit I'm going to be so cold going home I left my jacket at home today.
03:52 wizzyrea      why did I do that! This is wellington!@
03:52 wizzyrea      dumbdumbdumb
03:53 eythian       computer says 18 outside
03:53 eythian       @wunder nzwn
03:53 huginn        eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (4:30 PM NZDT on March 13, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
03:54 dcook         @wunder sydney, australia
03:54 huginn        dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 23.0°C (2:30 PM EST on March 13, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
03:54 dcook         I think I preferred the slightly cooler and cloudier morning...
03:56 wizzyrea      18's not terrible
03:56 wizzyrea      pretty good really
05:08 rangi         @wunder nzwn
05:08 huginn        rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (6:00 PM NZDT on March 13, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
05:11 eythian       I now have paging working for ES :)
05:11 eythian       Now to throw together a terrible UI for it.
05:11 rangi         :)
05:18 dcook         You know you've been using Vim a while when you try to save in notepad++ with ":w"
05:20 eythian       I do that all the time in gedit
05:21 dcook         Is gedit a ctrl+s as well?
05:21 dcook         I use it from time to time but can't recall
05:21 eythian       yeah
05:22 eythian       I mostly work in vim, but sometimes use gedit as a scratchpad to throw data into to have a look at it.
05:23 dcook         Yeah, that's mainly how I use np++ these days. Not sure why I'm using it at the moment for some quick debugging..
05:23 dcook         My terminal is still on the man page for 'batch' :p
05:35 eythian       huh, paging was easier than expected.
05:37 dcook         \o/
05:38 dcook         I've got call numbers wrapping (rather than going outside their guideboxes) but it's inelegant and I wonder about possible repercussions for call numbers I'm not seeing right now..
05:39 dcook         Shouldn't be any..
05:39 dcook         Well...
05:39 dcook         I suppose a line that barely fits into a single line now will be instead split into two which could be expected..
05:40 eythian       yeah, I think that's about the best you can do, short of truncating it.
05:40 eythian       @later tell bag new code with paging and stuff.
05:40 huginn        eythian: The operation succeeded.
05:40 dcook         Ack, I mean it could be "unexpected"
05:40 dcook         I figure that's really the only option besides truncating it though
05:48 dcook         Ooo I didn't know you could use "push" to push an array onto the end of another array
05:48 dcook         Or is this one of those array v. list moments..
05:49 eythian       yep
05:50 eythian       push @array, (1,2,3) is identical to @x=(1,2,3); push @array, @x
05:51 dcook         Indeed. That makes things a lot more slick.
05:52 eythian       rule of thumb is that most places you see "@something", you can expand it to a list of its elements. The left hand side of push is an exception, as it's treated like an array rather than a list through magic.
05:53 dcook         I was wondering about this magic!
05:54 eythian       it's sorta like using prototypes, so it says "the array on the left will be an array reference"
05:54 eythian       don't use prototypes though.
05:54 eythian       http://perldoc.perl.org/perlsub.html#Prototypes
05:55 dcook         Mmm, I've seen them around Koha on occasion and wondered what they were..
05:56 eythian       hrm, I'd hope Koha isn't using them, but it could well be.
05:56 dcook         Ah, maybe I'm wrong about the prototypes
05:56 dcook         Maybe they mean something different than I think..
05:56 dcook         Yeah, I think I'm wrong about that
05:56 eythian       they're really only good if you want to make a function behave like a builtin in some way, because it makes something a whole lot more convenient.
05:56 dcook         is "mypush (+@)" a prototype or is it just "(+@)"?
05:56 eythian       In general they're to be avoided as they run the risk of making everything more confusing.
05:57 eythian       sub mypush (+@) is a sub called mypush with a prototype "+@"
05:57 rangi         i went through ripping out prototypes
05:57 dcook         In that case, there are totes prototypes in Koha
05:57 dcook         Ah, they may no longer be there then
05:57 rangi         the qa suite fails when it sees them
05:57 dcook         There used to be
05:57 rangi         so they get removed whenever a piece of code is touched
05:58 rangi         perlcritic hates them, and yells
05:58 eythian       oh yeah, there are some
05:58 eythian       I count 4 in koha
05:58 eythian       so not too bad
05:59 rangi         yeah, i did a purge a couple of years ago
05:59 eythian       Most of them seem to be unnecessary
05:59 eythian       43:sub token_negligible_p( $ ) { for example
05:59 rangi         i never found one that was necessary
05:59 rangi         people often misunderstand what they are for
06:00 rangi         spcially if they used to program in c
06:00 dcook         They seem like they could be handy I suppose, but probably best to be used sparingly?
06:00 eythian       they have uses, but in very niche cases that we should be avoiding anyway.
06:00 rangi         yeah
06:01 rangi         best practices say just dont use them
06:01 rangi         if you need to, rethink what you are trying to do :)
06:01 dcook         Makes sense :)
06:02 rangi         i need to remember that for next time i have aleisha in at the office
06:02 dcook         Still not sure I get the difference between array and list, unfortunately :(
06:02 rangi         she could hunt down the prototypes, and given when constructs
06:02 eythian       ah yeah, and smartmatch
06:02 rangi         yeah
06:02 dcook         I didn't realize that we actually had any of those left either. Huh..
06:03 rangi         we have some given when
06:03 dcook         I love how every time I think I've seen every bit of Koha, there's a new part that emerges :p
06:03 rangi         try running koha on wheezy, you'll find them fast
06:03 eythian       dcook: http://learn.perl.org/faq/perlfaq4.html#What-is-the-difference-between-a-list-and-an-array-
06:03 rangi         filling up the error log
06:03 dcook         eythian: I was just reading that, hehe
06:03 dcook         Hmm, I run a few test Kohas on Wheezy
06:04 dcook         I suppose I don't use them very often though
06:04 dcook         Ah
06:04 dcook         The logs, that would be why
06:05 * eythian     &
06:05 rangi         colin campbell killed a bunch
06:05 rangi         im sure there are more though
06:05 dcook         eythian: What was that?
06:05 dcook         Yay for students!
06:06 rangi         he backgrounded himself
06:06 rangi         (going home)
06:06 dcook         I don't think I've ever seen that before
06:07 dcook         Actually, after re-reading that FAQ, I think I might understand..
06:19 dcook         eythian++
06:19 dcook         rangi++
06:19 dcook         For their awesome Perl knowledge :)
06:24 dcook         All right. Time to power down.
06:24 dcook         Night all.
06:24 wahanui       goodnight dcook. You'll be back.
07:27 marcelr       hi #koha
07:27 rangi         hi marcelr
07:27 marcelr       :)
07:28 cait          hi marcelr :)
07:38 reiveune      hello
07:38 wahanui       kai ora, reiveune
07:56 bag           good mornig
07:56 bag           cait - no baby
07:56 cait          oh :(
07:56 cait          but everyhtin gis ok?
07:57 bag           yes everything else is ok
07:57 bag           according to kyle - today is the day
07:57 cait          maybe tomorrow then
07:57 cait          aah
07:57 cait          we will keep sending positive thoughts then
07:57 cait          where are you hiding?
07:57 bag           in bed :P
07:57 cait          aha
07:57 cait          i have heard oyu have been a bad influence on martin
07:57 bag           pianohacker is taking a shower - once he's done we will come up to biblibre
07:58 bag           me?
07:58 wahanui       I LIKE BASEBALL
07:59 bag           cait I am never a bad influence, it was a group of people
07:59 cait          just teasing :)
07:59 cait          and i need jesse -  he is my wifi hot spot, make him hurry up
07:59 cait          :)
08:01 ashimema      mehhhhh
08:01 rangi         drink more coffee
08:01 * ashimema    thinks that maybe the last drink last night wasn't such a good idea
08:01 bag           good morning ashimema
08:01 ashimema      good morning bag :)
08:02 bag           yes yes it wasn't the best of ideas
08:02 ashimema      coffee :))))
08:02 rangi         ashimema: you only get hungover when you stop
08:02 ashimema      indeed..
08:02 ashimema      good morning rangi
08:02 bag           rangi: I think the hangover will kick in - in a few hours
08:02 ashimema      indeed.. I feel great this morning ;)
08:02 ashimema      though my code is dancing :S
08:02 ashimema      sometimes that's good, somtimes that's bad..
08:03 bag           ha
08:03 ashimema      i'm working on hangover.. staving it off with coffee
08:04 rangi         @quote get 250
08:04 huginn        rangi: Quote #250: "<cjh> This code smells of wine." (added by wizzyrea at 04:52 AM, May 24, 2013)
08:04 ashimema      hehe
08:04 cait          oh and tell pianohacker i have headphones waiting for him
08:04 ashimema      .me giggles uncontrolably
08:06 cait          he has a mean giggle
08:06 cait          it's a bit scary
08:06 ashimema      right.. onward and upward...
08:07 ashimema      what was I going to do today?
08:07 bag           ashimema: it was test the accountlines rewrite
08:08 bag           from khall
08:08 ashimema      i can do that..
08:08 ashimema      got a bug number ;)
08:08 bag           ahh pfffft
08:08 rangi         [off] http://library.nzica.com/informed-professional/ <--- koha reports /opac/svc/report (comes out in JSON)  and some angular.js .. check the source code, going live tonight .. they can update their bulletion by tagging things in the catalogue in 901
08:09 cait          bag: are yo ustealing my qa m... assistant?
08:09 nlegrand      hiya #koha o/
08:10 bag           ashimema: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6427
08:10 huginn        04Bug 6427: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Rewrite of the accounts system
08:10 * magnuse     waves in no particular language
08:10 bag           magnuse: HI
08:10 magnuse       bag: HI
08:10 ashimema      i qa'd the reports svc stuff yesterday rangi.. I couldn't get it working with more than one param..
08:10 ashimema      was I being stupid?
08:11 ashimema      oh la magnuse
08:11 magnuse       oh la di da
08:11 bag           magnuse: I think I am 5 second tom this morning
08:11 rangi         hmmm
08:11 ashimema      bag: oh yeah, i've been looking at that one for a while.. it's biiiiig ;)
08:11 magnuse       yay, "needs signoff" is dwn by 3 since last i checked: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Marseille_hackfest_2014#Wednesday_afternoon
08:11 magnuse       bag: HI
08:11 ashimema      this may take me some time..
08:12 bag           ashimema: too big
08:12 sophie_m      hello
08:12 cait          magnuse: we also got a small dent into the qa queue :)
08:12 ashimema      indeed
08:12 cait          hi sophie_m  - starting with your patch this morning :)
08:12 bag           big ones happen - and it takes a village to get them in :P
08:12 magnuse       129 needs signoff - can we get below 100 before the hackfest is over? (and keep it there...)
08:12 bag           moring sophie_m
08:12 ashimema      hense why i've been looking at it for a while.. been qaing in lots of small spurts
08:12 bag           magnuse: HI
08:12 magnuse       bag: HI
08:14 ashimema      rangi.. was that 'informed professional' page meant to be live.. I get a 404
08:15 magnuse       worked for me
08:16 * ashimema    hits refresh again
08:17 rangi         have a trailing slash?
08:17 ashimema      didn't.. trying with trailing slash now
08:18 bag           oh man I read that as training slash...  and was lost for a bit...  oh yeah umm...  wait..  magnuse HI
08:19 bag           ok pianohacker is out of the shower - we will see you all shortly
08:19 ashimema      the internet doesn't like me today..
08:19 ashimema      still can't get your page rangi.. but cait can next to me
08:20 cait          :)
08:20 cait          looks nice
08:21 ashimema      anywho.. give me a shout if you want more details in the reports svc bug..
08:21 rangi         will do
08:21 ashimema      no idea yet why I couldn't use more than one param
08:21 ashimema      :)
08:22 rangi         [off] https://library.niwa.co.nz/  try changing the drop down to discovery then searching
08:23 magnuse       bag: HI
08:24 bag           bye bye you all
08:25 gaetan_B      hello
08:25 wahanui       privet, gaetan_B
08:25 cait          rangi: very cool!
08:29 ashimema      looks shiny
08:31 Oak           magnuse
08:31 Oak           kai ora #koha
08:31 Oak           hello cait :)
08:31 magnuse       Oak
08:32 Oak           \o/
08:32 magnuse       :-)
08:32 cait          hi Oak :)
08:34 Oak           so cait, I have a bit of free time, can I sign-off some easy bug(s)? I mean if you know the number...
08:34 magnuse       after all the performance discussions in marseille and on irc, i was thinking maybe it would be nice to have some tool that could go x commits back in koha history, run some performance tests for the code at that point, go one (or 5 or 10) step forward in history, run the tests again, step forward, run the tests and so on, and then report on how performance changes from step to step?
08:34 cait          rangi: showing ashimema the link you posted earlier
08:34 cait          :)
08:34 cait          Oak: bit hard right now to tell - so many things going on
08:34 Oak           okay cool.
08:34 cait          maybe go to the dashboard and look for one?
08:34 Oak           sure sure np.
08:35 cait          i really have no overview right now :)
08:35 cait          trying to find an easy bug to fix for a first committer... any ideas anyone? :)
08:35 Oak           no no. not fix. the other thing.
08:36 nlegrand      magnuse: I like the idea :)
08:38 nlegrand      magnuse: in the next months I'm going to try the update of BULAC koha from 3.2 to 3.1[46], I may try to bench different versions with our Koha
08:38 magnuse       Oak: find the list of "needs signoff", go to the bottom, click on "Change columns", add "patch complexity" to the list of displayed columns, click the "change columns" button, sort the list by "patch complexity" and start digging into the "trivial" patches :-)
08:38 magnuse       nlegrand: cool!
08:39 Oak           ah cool. thanks!
08:39 Oak           magnuse++
08:41 magnuse       ooh, a signoff for bug 11927 would be nice - new developer! :-)
08:41 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11927 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Add greek chr lang_def file
08:54 rangi         what khall_away has to look foward to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98LoiMZ59Jw
08:56 bag           hello
08:59 pianohacker   good morning
09:00 bag           morning pianohacker
09:01 pianohacker   good morning might be a bit of an exaggeration actually
09:04 ashimema      we've got a n00b working on puring given/when from the codebase...  go nicolas
09:04 ashimema      :)
09:05 ashimema      s/puring/purging/g
09:06 cait          go nlegrand :)
09:11 ashimema      That's a cool idea magnuse.. may point out some 'heavy' commits
09:11 bag           anybody here ever submit a patch to remove code?  I haven't - but it doesn't seem like it is anything too different - is there something that I should know?
09:12 ashimema      would be good for the qa team to see a few of those for comparative reasons
09:12 cait          bag: hm just to use git rm i think
09:12 cait          on files you remove
09:13 bag           yeah not whole files cait - I'm thinking of just removing some of the old pazpar2 stuff
09:13 cait          i think that should be just removing the lines then :)
09:13 cait          and try not to break stuff!!
09:13 * ashimema    likes the idea of some purging..
09:13 cait          :)
09:13 bag           well wait - yes that would include whole files too :)
09:14 ashimema      it'll be nice to see the wood for the trees
09:14 bag           cait yes no breaking of stuff
09:15 bag           hey pianohacker
09:15 wahanui       I HATE XML
09:15 mrenvoize     don't we all wahanui
09:16 bag           on your pazpar2 integration - are you using any of the old pazpar2 code?
09:16 pianohacker   bag: nope
09:16 pianohacker   none of it
09:17 bag           and that code isn't in master correct?
09:17 pianohacker   also correct
09:17 rangi         https://twitter.com/ranginui/status/443900767594749952
09:19 pianohacker   rangi: dare I ask what you're looking at?
09:19 rangi         NCIP
09:19 pianohacker   oh lord
09:19 rangi         aka a pile of XML crap
09:20 pianohacker   how large a pile? XSLT, SOAP, or SAML?
09:20 rangi         its worse
09:20 pianohacker   dear lord
09:20 rangi         because you have to parse the xml
09:21 rangi         then you have to write an english parser
09:21 rangi         cos you can literally put anything in the requested action
09:21 rangi         its ridinkydonk
09:21 bag           yup
09:21 bag           magnuse: HI
09:21 rangi         now im  going to sleep
09:22 cait          good night rangi
09:27 pianohacker   cait: get on my wifi dangit
09:27 pianohacker   there we go
09:27 pianohacker   cait++
09:28 cait1         pianohacker: :P
09:28 pianohacker   hi cait1
09:41 pianohacker   c'est boom
09:44 pianohacker   cait: ping when you are ready
09:49 nlegrand      so, here we go, my first koha patch, proposed by ashimema and cait in kohafest :), I'm ready for comments ^^ http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11934
09:49 huginn        04Bug 11934: trivial, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , Replace given by if-else in Circulation_issuingrules.t
09:55 nlegrand      erf, i left a default...
09:56 nlegrand      ><
09:59 magnuse_      bonjour petter!
09:59 petter        bonjor!
10:00 magnuse_      did you have a good trip home?
10:00 petter        yea, it went ok
10:00 petter        But I wish I was still in sunny Marseille
10:03 nlegrand      ok updated with better diff :) http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11934
10:03 huginn        04Bug 11934: trivial, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , Replace given by if-else in Circulation_issuingrules.t
10:03 nlegrand      hey petter o/
10:03 petter        hei nicolas!
10:04 JesseM_       Hi
10:04 wahanui       bidet, JesseM_
10:05 bag           hey good morning petter
10:05 ashimema      yeay nlegrand...
10:05 ashimema      right.. someone go test his patch ;)
10:07 petter        mornin brendan!
10:07 nlegrand      petter: add some talk with my boss (Benjamin Guichard), his main remark was he was very interesting by your projects of cataloguing in RDF first :)
10:08 petter        cool!
10:08 petter        I hope more libraries will follow:)
10:08 nlegrand      :)
10:08 petter        We will share all our work
10:08 petter        And, most importantly, all our data
10:09 bag           yes that is cool
10:10 petter        But for now, we will have focus on RFID & migrations..
10:10 petter        For RFID, maybe we can get something to show in 6 months time
10:10 petter        Sorry, for RDF
10:10 petter        in 6 months time
10:13 magnuse       hooray for rdf!
10:14 nlegrand      \o/
10:16 magnuse       which reminds me, i should wrap up a patch for bug 10788
10:16 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10788 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, NEW , Add a Linked Data/RDF browser to the OPAC
10:17 magnuse       (which is my little side project, not related to the work being done at oslo public library. but of course it would all play well together)
10:17 magnuse       (hopefully)
10:17 petter        go go go!
10:18 petter        magnus: is it semantikoha?
10:18 petter        https://github.com/MagnusEnger/semantikoha
10:18 petter        ?
10:19 magnuse       well, an evolution of that
10:20 magnuse       sort of, kind of
10:20 magnuse       :-)
10:21 bag           bug 11703
10:21 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable
10:23 magnuse       wooho
10:27 dpavlin       bug 7844 looking for QA... It's a pleasure to develop with plack, everybody should try it ;-)
10:27 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7844 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Signed Off , plack scripts for developers
10:28 magnuse       yeah, i envy the qa person that gets the pleasure of looking at 7844
10:31 dpavlin       magnuse++
10:31 ashimema      :S
10:31 ashimema      that'll probably end up being me
10:32 magnuse       ooh, lucky ashimema
10:33 ashimema      super simple qa for someone: bug 11934
10:33 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11934 trivial, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , Replace given by if-else in Circulation_issuingrules.t
10:34 nlegrand      magnuse: thanks for showing 10788 :) I'm in CC now ^^
10:36 ashimema      time to get to grips with how all the plack bugs and off bug implimentations fit together
10:39 bag           cool ashimema :)
10:39 bag           I was just applying that bug - but looks like you got your teeth into it
10:40 bag           I can tell you that it applies cleanly
10:40 bag           :)
10:40 vfernandes    hello :)
10:47 vfernandes    it's possible to restraint one search in Koha? for example i want to search for records that has a subject "Information" but not "Information*"
10:58 * marcelr     hopes for a volunteer in marseille to look at bug 9032
10:58 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9032 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Share a list
12:02 francharb     good morning
12:09 marcelr       hi francharb
12:10 marcelr       it is quiet here; they are eating cheese in marseille probably ..
12:11 francharb     I guess
12:11 francharb     :)
12:21 magnuse_      nope, pizza
12:21 magnuse_      with cheese
12:22 magnuse_      photo time!
12:34 * cait1       waves at francharb
12:34 * francharb   waves back at cait1
12:34 francharb     ;)
12:36 cait1         marcelr++
12:37 marcelr       hi cait1
12:37 cait1         seems being outsie of the hackfest is a bit better for productvity today :)
12:45 cait1         @wunder Marseille
12:45 huginn        cait1: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 18.7°C (1:45 PM CET on March 13, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 10%. Dew Point: -14.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Falling).
12:46 druthb        @wunder 77063
12:46 huginn        druthb: The current temperature in Briargrove Park, Houston, Texas is 3.8°C (7:46 AM CDT on March 13, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Falling).  Wind Advisory in effect until 6 PM CDT this evening... 
12:52 magnuse_      druthb!
12:52 wahanui       Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
12:53 magnuse_      "needs signoff" is going up!
12:53 druthb        magnuse!
12:53 wahanui       somebody said magnuse was afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
12:54 marcelr       get it down, magnuse !
12:58 * magnuse     has just eaten pizza, in fact
12:58 magnuse       and i'm trying to ressurect some old code of mine at the moment
12:58 magnuse       hope to sign off at least one more patch before the day is done, though
13:04 magnuse       ...and so should everyone else! :-)
13:08 tcohen        is it GBSD magnuse?
13:12 magnuse       tcohen: sure! :-)
13:13 * tcohen      heads into the signing queue
13:14 cait1         morning tcohen :)
13:15 tcohen        morning cait1
13:17 magnuse       tcohen: there is a nice, big ++ waiting for you if you sign something off ;-)
13:18 cait1         we'd send cheese or pizza... but the teleporter is broken
13:20 magnuse       well not broken, but the internet is not stable enough to take the chance...
13:21 cait1         well... yeah
13:22 francharb     who broke the internet?
13:23 cait1         we're not sure
13:24 * cait1       suspects magnuse
13:27 cait1         marcelr: i am on bug 11551 now
13:27 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11551 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Allow to search on ordernumber in histsearch.pl
13:27 marcelr       ok
13:27 cait1         we should have a webcam here - there is a big poster on the wall where we write the numbers :)
13:30 nlegrand      tcohen: I just had a look at http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11912 here is the output of Biblio.t: http://pastebin.com/MLiXMwUx (unimarc settings)
13:30 huginn        04Bug 11912: minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , GetMarcISBN wrongly prepends a space to ISBNs
13:33 tcohen        nlegrand: checking
13:35 marcelr       looking at bug 11148 now
13:35 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11148 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Two routines are useless in Koha::DateUtils
13:35 cait1         tcohen: can you say where to find the trnaslation for hte manual?
13:35 cait1         likewhere it#s done?
13:36 tcohen        es.koha-community.org/manual
13:37 tcohen        http://es.koha-community.org/manual
13:37 cait1         https://wiki.bsz-bw.de/doku.php?id=l-team:koha:koha-handbuch:start
13:37 cait1         for sophie_m1 - she was asking :)
13:38 cait1         i think there is a meeting about French documentation right now :)
13:39 tcohen        nlegrand: thanks for trying it, I missed something, uploading in a couple of minutes
13:40 pianohacker   are there any good bugs/documents showing how we try
13:40 pianohacker   *how we use C4::Schema/DBIx::Class?
13:42 tcohen        nlegrand: fixed version attached
13:42 nlegrand      tcohen: ok :)
13:43 magnuse       ashimema++
13:45 magnuse       pianohacker: i think gmcharlt is working on some examples
13:46 pianohacker   okay, cool. My understanding is that all new developments will be encouraged to use DBIx::Class, so it would be good to know what the standards will be for that
13:49 magnuse       pianohacker: true!
13:50 pianohacker   ah, circ/renew.pl and Koha::List::Patron use it
13:50 magnuse       pianohacker: yesterday, gmcharlt said "still workingo n DBIC examples"
13:50 pianohacker   magnuse: thanks
14:03 cait1         dpavlin++
14:03 cait1         http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10542
14:03 huginn        04Bug 10542: critical, P1 - high, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , QueryParser + OpacSuppression doesn't allow search in 'all libraries'
14:03 marcelr       Looking at bug 8868 (again)
14:03 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8868 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , ILS-DI: CancelHold needs to take a reserve_id
14:05 cait1         marcelr: going to look at 11699 now
14:05 marcelr       bug 11699
14:05 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11699 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , notes entered when receiving are not saved
14:12 pianohacker   @seen gmcharlt
14:12 huginn        pianohacker: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 15 hours, 22 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> ... not in 45 seconds we can't
14:13 * pianohacker wonders what happened 15 hours, 21 minutes and 28 seconds ago...
14:15 tcohen        logs?
14:15 wahanui       logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/
14:32 magnuse       cheese?
14:32 wahanui       i think cheese is delicious, but cait just had butter.
14:34 cait1         what??
14:35 pianohacker   We're going to liveblog all of your eating now
14:35 cait1         wahanui no more cookies for you
14:35 wahanui       cait1: excuse me?
14:35 pianohacker   "Oh, and the German's going to the cookie table"
14:35 cait1         she is not!
14:35 cait1         well not right now
14:35 * cait1       might throw some of the packaged cookies at pianohacker
14:35 pianohacker   "Excellent pairing of that cheese and the dark bread I'd say, wouldn't you?"
14:35 pianohacker   "Mm, yes, quite"
14:36 cait1         marcelr: ashimema: starting 10090 again now
14:37 magnuse       bug 10090
14:38 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10090 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , the ordered and spent page display the itemtype code
14:42 marcelr       dpavlin++ #thanks for 9032
14:42 marcelr       have to go
14:43 magnuse       bug 9032
14:43 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9032 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Share a list
14:59 cait1         going for bug 11127 again
14:59 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11127 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , OPAC suggestion: the delete link is active when no suggestion selected
15:16 cait1         magnuse: found something on the internet
15:16 cait1         [off] http://zbw.eu/beta/sparql/gnd
15:17 cait1         sparql endpoint to gnd?
15:18 magnuse       cool
15:18 magnuse       what's gnd again?
15:18 cait1         german authority file
15:20 dpavlin       @later marcelr I *MIGHT* have re-order bug 9032 in some strange way but they do apply as attached to bug right now
15:20 huginn        dpavlin: I've exhausted my database of quotes
15:20 pianohacker   dpavlin: @later tell marcelr
15:22 dpavlin       @later tell marcelr I *MIGHT* have re-order bug 9032 in some strange way but they do apply as attached to bug right now
15:22 huginn        dpavlin: The operation succeeded.
15:22 dpavlin       pianohacker++
15:28 * magnuse     adds another patch to "needs signoff" and hangs his head in shame
15:32 pianohacker   magnuse++
15:32 pianohacker   the queue needs input and output :)
15:34 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11934: (follow-up) tidy up whitespace <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3a99c0441a7400ddc2437300b94a98e645c89881> / Bug 11934 - Replace given by if-else statements <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=12df62ca33047df0c5cd372bf5574cf131f773e0> / Bug 11923: fix option to sort contents of MARC record batches by citation descending <http://git.koha-community.org/git
15:34 gmcharlt      magnuse: for shame! we can never have more patches for Koha!
15:34 gmcharlt      ;)
15:35 magnuse       lol
15:39 jenkins_koha  Starting build #387 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:40 pianohacker   gmcharlt: I came up with an even better name than task after some discussion, routine. Each cronjob is a routine, with zero or more jobs.
15:41 cait1         gmcharlt++
15:41 gmcharlt      pianohacker: I like it
15:41 gmcharlt      this, then, is the diagram of the nightly fines process?
15:41 gmcharlt      http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1iGMnJCW7Ec/TKFjfx_id0I/AAAAAAABeYo/5SFv_xb6sAU/s1600/tango_diagram.jpg
15:42 pianohacker   gmcharlt: sweet! And that diagram looks right, it's just missing the two left feet
15:42 cait1         :)
15:43 jenkins_koha  Starting build #1663 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:52 cait1         and moving on to ... bug 10542
15:52 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10542 critical, P1 - high, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , QueryParser + OpacSuppression doesn't allow search in 'all libraries'
15:57 magnuse       cait++
16:05 * cait1       broke the fix
16:16 magnuse       talljoy: could you have a look at the last comment on bug 2499? thanks!
16:16 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2499 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, Needs Signoff , Improvement on text wrapping algorithm needed
16:16 talljoy       oh yes.  that is on my to do list. thanks for the reminder
16:20 magnuse       talljoy: cool!
16:27 magnuse       fresh numbers, straight from the dashboard: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Marseille_hackfest_2014#Thursday_morning needs signoff is down by 6
16:28 magnuse       so if we are 4 times more effective tomorrow we *can* make it below 100 ;-)
16:29 * magnuse     calls it a day - have fun #koha!
16:36 jenkins_koha  Project master_maria build #387: UNSTABLE in 57 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/387/
16:36 jenkins_koha  * Mark Tompsett: Bug 11928 - Remove unused table aqorderdelivery
16:36 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 11928: DBRev 3.15.00.025
16:36 jenkins_koha  * Fridolin Somers: Bug 11366: make "no group" option in acq basket group drop-down translatable
16:36 jenkins_koha  * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 11647: require that user log into OPAC to request email subscription notifications
16:36 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11928 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , table aqorderdelivery seem useless
16:36 jenkins_koha  * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 11647: (follow-up) test if user is logged in before proposing to subscribe or unsubcribe from serial routing list
16:36 jenkins_koha  * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 11647 : (follow-up) Add template modification for bootstrap theme
16:36 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 11647: (follow-up) add comment expressing that user must be logged in
16:36 jenkins_koha  * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11923: fix option to sort contents of MARC record batches by citation descending
16:36 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11366 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Acq basket group "No group" untranslatable
16:36 jenkins_koha  * Nicolas Legrand: Bug 11934 - Replace given by if-else statements
16:36 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 11934: (follow-up) tidy up whitespace
16:36 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11647 normal, P4, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Master , Subscribe to email notification for serials needs user login
16:36 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11923 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Marc record batches not sorting by citation descending
16:36 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11934 trivial, P5 - low, ---, nicolas.legrand, Pushed to Master , Replace given by if-else in Circulation_issuingrules.t
16:54 jenkins_koha  Starting build #388 for job master_maria (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #386 21 hr ago)
16:55 tcohen        gmcharlt: do u need a qa followup for bug 9114
16:55 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9114 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , exported MARC frameworks encoding should be UTF-8
16:55 gmcharlt      tcohen: yeah, may as well
16:56 tcohen        i'll otherwise attach another patch, and ask for signing
16:56 gmcharlt      actually, cleaner just to have a single patch
16:58 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11386: standardize validation of the subscription add/edit form <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=facbe5155f06408f8978d056fae25b255c647b14> / Bug 11127: (follow-up) define a specific message for suggestions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ce7b11879b850b5302b95a7b7d2f0d15089d9b44> / Bug 11127: OPAC suggestions form - complain when trying to 'delete selected'
16:59 tcohen        magnuse?
16:59 wahanui       well, magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
17:05 bag           hello cait, magnuse et al  - we have made it to rome
17:10 cait1         bag: how is the weather?
17:10 cait1         and is there a baby now?
17:10 bag           well I don't think kyle came to work today
17:10 bag           so I think maybe yes the baby is on the way today
17:47 reiveune1     bye
17:48 jenkins_koha  Yippee, build fixed!
17:48 wahanui       o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
17:48 jenkins_koha  Project master_maria build #388: FIXED in 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/388/
17:48 jenkins_koha  * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11127: OPAC suggestions form - complain when trying to 'delete selected' without having selected any
17:48 jenkins_koha  * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11127: (follow-up) define a specific message for suggestions
17:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11127 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , OPAC suggestion: the delete link is active when no suggestion selected
17:55 jenkins_koha  Starting build #389 for job master_maria (previous build: FIXED)
18:01 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_master build #1663: SUCCESS in 2 hr 20 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1663/
18:01 jenkins_koha  * Mark Tompsett: Bug 11928 - Remove unused table aqorderdelivery
18:01 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 11928: DBRev 3.15.00.025
18:01 jenkins_koha  * Fridolin Somers: Bug 11366: make "no group" option in acq basket group drop-down translatable
18:01 jenkins_koha  * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 11647: require that user log into OPAC to request email subscription notifications
18:01 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11928 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , table aqorderdelivery seem useless
18:01 jenkins_koha  * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 11647: (follow-up) test if user is logged in before proposing to subscribe or unsubcribe from serial routing list
18:01 jenkins_koha  * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 11647 : (follow-up) Add template modification for bootstrap theme
18:01 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 11647: (follow-up) add comment expressing that user must be logged in
18:01 jenkins_koha  * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11923: fix option to sort contents of MARC record batches by citation descending
18:01 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11366 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Acq basket group "No group" untranslatable
18:01 jenkins_koha  * Nicolas Legrand: Bug 11934 - Replace given by if-else statements
18:01 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 11934: (follow-up) tidy up whitespace
18:01 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11647 normal, P4, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Master , Subscribe to email notification for serials needs user login
18:01 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11923 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Marc record batches not sorting by citation descending
18:01 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11934 trivial, P5 - low, ---, nicolas.legrand, Pushed to Master , Replace given by if-else in Circulation_issuingrules.t
18:05 jenkins_koha  Starting build #1664 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:27 tcohen        bye #koha, have a nice day/night
18:49 jenkins_koha  Project master_maria build #389: SUCCESS in 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/389/
18:49 jenkins_koha  Julian Maurice: Bug 11386: standardize validation of the subscription add/edit form
18:49 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11386 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Mandatory fields in subscription add form should use standard formatting
19:22 rhcl          sombody is having a bad_hair_day
19:38 rangi         morning
19:51 wajasu        we don't put the biblioserver's items, form the db table, into the marcxml these days.  correct?
19:52 jcamins       wajasu: items go into the marcxml only for indexing.
19:56 wajasu        ahh.  i see they are appended on the fly when exporting.
20:00 rangi         might have to crank up my radio station again today
20:03 rangi         http://grooveshark.com/#!/ranginui/broadcast
20:08 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_master build #1664: SUCCESS in 2 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1664/
20:08 jenkins_koha  * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11127: OPAC suggestions form - complain when trying to 'delete selected' without having selected any
20:08 jenkins_koha  * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11127: (follow-up) define a specific message for suggestions
20:08 jenkins_koha  * Julian Maurice: Bug 11386: standardize validation of the subscription add/edit form
20:08 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11127 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , OPAC suggestion: the delete link is active when no suggestion selected
20:08 rangi         feel free to add suggestions and such, ill get bored of picking music fast :)
20:08 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11386 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Mandatory fields in subscription add form should use standard formatting
20:09 jcamins       rangi: the theme song to Red Dwarf. Despite being entirely silly and nonsensical, the tune can still get stuck in your head for days or weeks.
20:09 rangi         ill see if i can find that
20:09 jcamins       I was mostly joking... the Red Dwarf theme song is cruel and unusual.
20:09 rangi         hehe
20:10 jcamins       Listen to it, and it will be stuck in your head... FOREVER.
20:10 rangi         its in the queue, its a few songs away though :)
20:10 jcamins       \o/
20:19 gmcharlt      jcamins: of course, the antidote may be http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U2zJOryHKQ
20:20 jcamins       I don't know how to turn him off!
20:21 bag           evening y'all's
20:36 * magnuse     waves
20:37 rangi         hi magnuse
20:37 wahanui       hi magnuse are you spending much time in oslo?
20:37 pastebot      "homer" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "error connecting" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/166
20:37 homer         Hi, sorry, i pasted too soon.
20:37 homer         I have no idea how to do this irc thing
20:38 homer         but i'm desperate
20:38 homer         the paste shows my error
20:38 homer         today, i reinstalled from scratch everything, ubuntu, koha, etc.
20:38 homer         i've done it so many times i have my own guide
20:38 bag           magnuse: HI
20:38 wahanui       salut, bag
20:39 homer         and casually went along adding data
20:39 homer         HI
20:39 wahanui       hi, homer
20:39 homer         hahah, HI!
20:40 homer         well, my computer crashed because sometimes the dog trips on the power cord and i don't notice that it's unplugged
20:40 homer         and when i came back
20:40 homer         i had this error
20:40 homer         i was so happy before - everything was clean
20:40 homer         so
20:41 homer         i had to have done something that was fine until the browser was restarted
20:41 homer         sorry, i should explain that koha is installed on a remote server
20:42 homer         i looked around and saw that possibly the mysql password is not correct
20:42 homer         but it is, i can log in as the library user in mysql with the password
20:42 homer         any ideas?
20:42 wahanui       any ideas are welcome :)
20:42 homer         yes!
20:48 homer         server is ubuntu 12.04
20:51 magnuse_      bag: HI
20:52 homer         i rebooted the server but it didn't change anything
21:16 wizzyrea      jcamins about?
21:21 magnuse       hiya rangi and wizzyrea
21:22 wizzyrea      I'm sorry homer I don't think anyone around knows what your issue is.
21:22 wizzyrea      hi magnuse
21:22 wahanui       hi magnuse are you spending much time in oslo?
21:22 homer         Oh well, maybe i can solve it
21:22 magnuse       wahanui: nah, mostly marseille these days
21:22 wahanui       magnuse: sorry...
21:31 magnuse       nothing to be sorry about, wahanui, it's rather nice here actually and they have fabulous cheese
21:33 magnuse       have fun #koha!
21:35 eythian       hi
21:35 bag           heya eythian
21:35 wahanui       eythian is great at jokes. That everyone else misses them isn't his problem.
21:47 wizzyrea      bag: go to bed!
21:48 bag           it's only 2:48pm :)
21:48 bag           at home :P
21:48 wizzyrea      you have to stop thinking about what time it is there, and LIVE IN THE NOW
21:49 wizzyrea      :D
21:51 gmcharlt      wizzyrea: I believe bag is doing that already
21:51 gmcharlt      he's just choosing to live in ALL the nows! ;)
21:52 bag           heh - I had some awesome prosecco tonight - so I'm feeling all the nows
21:52 bag           but yes it is bed time
22:08 wajasu        i'm wondering if i should use the Koha::Filter to enrich a marc record with the hidden 999h=1 attribute when exporting for my patch.
22:18 talljoy       can someone verify that holds notices are emailed to the branch if the patron doesn't have an email?  or are they lost to the ether?
22:26 jcamins       wizzyrea: vaguely, maybe.
22:26 wizzyrea      it's ok, I found what I needed on your website ;)
22:26 wizzyrea      regarding daredevils.
22:35 wizzyrea      talljoy that is supposed to be the way that it works
22:35 talljoy       i figured as much.  thanks wizzyrea.  i just hate to say that and it not work.
22:36 talljoy       then again, why someone asked me about notices is beyond me.
22:38 wizzyrea      heh
23:18 mtj           yo peeps, does anyone know of a general 'Add missing MARC fields for XSLT display' bug?
23:18 mtj           i've just have a quick look in bz, but couldn't find one...
23:21 dcook         no clue, sorry
23:24 cait          talljoy: i don't think it works like that for holds
23:24 cait          in my experience theystay as pending forever
23:24 talljoy       ick.  that sounds bad.
23:24 cait          might be worth a quick test
23:24 cait          ours are on 3.12
23:25 cait          in my experience only the overdues get emailed altogether in a mail to the library
23:25 talljoy       ok, well that is something to test then.    thanks cait!
23:26 cait          hmm wait a sec
23:26 cait          there is a hold_print template
23:26 mtj           hmm, anyone have a problem with a XSLT category, on koha bz?
23:26 talljoy       i saw that cait.  i wondered if it 'duplicated' the emails though.
23:26 cait          i think that was it - if you have no email, it uses the HOld_print, but if you never run the cronjobs to gather those
23:26 cait          they will stay around
23:26 cait          i think you can create a pdf
23:26 cait          there is a cronjob for those ... gatherprintsomething?
23:27 * mtj         waves to talljoy, cait , dcook )
23:27 talljoy       yes gather_print_notices
23:27 talljoy       hi mtj
23:27 cait          talljoy: but we are not using that yet :(
23:28 talljoy       i'm not sure we have anyone using it either.
23:28 talljoy       i'll have to check