IRC log for #koha, 2014-01-27

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00:34 tcohen "new stuff"?
00:35 eythian it was a very large download
00:49 tcohen cya eythian, dinner time!
00:49 eythian later
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03:17 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
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05:24 mtompset Greetings, cait.
05:24 cait morning
05:26 mtompset Did you get a chance to look at the change in the patch I made on 11489?
05:29 cait no
05:29 cait bug 11489
05:29 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11489 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , OPAC search results in 404 error when the only search result is supressed
05:29 cait maybe kylewill sign it off
05:30 cait were you able to reproduce my problem?
05:30 mtompset Yes.
05:30 mtompset The problem was hits wasn't defined AT ALL as a template parameter.
05:30 mtompset so if (blah blah & undefined HITS)... of course nothing shows.
05:31 mtompset It was weird that it actually showed sometimes.
05:31 mtompset (if I recall)
05:32 cait i am not ure when i will get back to do osme qa
05:32 mtompset 683 of opac-search has ( total => $hits)
05:32 mtompset so, I swapped it to total.
05:32 cait you know that the total if off when you hide records?
05:32 mtompset If the count is correct, it will hide the facets.
05:32 mtompset Yes, I know.
05:32 cait the count isn't correct when we hide records
05:33 cait sorry for the repeat, not really awake yet
05:33 mtompset Not a problem. I understand waking up. :)
05:33 mtompset Actually, there is a change in the first one, that makes the count more correct, I think.
05:34 mtompset I need to test it more rigorously, but that's my theory. :)
05:47 mtompset Well, I'm off.
05:47 mtompset Have a great day, cait #koha. :)
05:53 cait @wunder Konstanz
05:53 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 3.9°C (6:50 AM CET on January 27, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady).
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07:32 cait good morning #koha
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07:47 reiveune hello
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07:58 * magnuse waves
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08:08 * magnuse waves to paul_p and laurence
08:08 magnuse @wunder boo
08:08 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -3.0°C (8:50 AM CET on January 27, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: -14.0°C. Windchill: -12.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
08:08 magnuse @wunder las palmas, spain
08:09 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
08:09 magnuse @wunder las palmas de gran canaria, spain
08:09 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Gran Canaria, Gran Canaria, Canary Islands is 17.7°C (8:09 AM WET on January 27, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
08:09 magnuse :-)
08:09 laurence hello magnuse
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08:19 alex_a bonjour
08:27 ashimema cava
08:27 ashimema or rather... Ça va
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08:58 magnuse ashimema: cheers!
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09:07 Joubu hi
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09:26 nlegrand Hey #koha
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09:43 kivilahtio Are you displaying the shelving location in
09:44 kivilahtio How do your patrons know from where to look for the Book if the shelving location is not displayed?
09:44 cait it is displayed
09:44 cait below the library name in the next line
09:44 kivilahtio cait: in the staff client yes
09:44 cait in both
09:44 kivilahtio cait: I don't seem to be finding it in the
09:45 kivilahtio lemme recheck
09:45 cait this is a single branch library
09:45 cait but media cabinat is alocation
09:45 cait[…]l%3A%20mathematik
09:45 cait cabinet even
09:46 cait we are just hiding the library name there - because it's always the same
09:47 kivilahtio cait: maybe this is an migration issue
09:48 kivilahtio we might have different location code in the item record then we have in the loc authorized list
09:48 kivilahtio in staff client the authorized value is not enforced
09:48 kivilahtio i guess
09:49 cait it might be something like that
09:49 cait you can check your 952$c
09:52 kivilahtio since when have we had location and permanent_location columns in items-table?
09:53 kivilahtio and what do they do :)
09:58 magnuse kivilahtio: the comments here might give a clue: http://schema.koha-community.o[…]tables/items.html
10:05 kivilahtio thanks magnuse! This leaves me to wonder what PROG and CART do, but I'll just migrate the shelving location to both columns Justin Case
10:15 cait kivilahtio: i would recommend that
10:15 cait cart is when the book is returned, it goes on the 'cart' first
10:16 cait and then is set back to itsnormal location in the morning of the next day or whenever you shelf your books
10:16 cait and prog is a status taht will be set on first cataloguing, indicating it's still 'backstage' somewhere and not yet available and requires a return to be set to the normal location
10:16 cait that's the theory
10:16 cait we are not using the features currently so no guaranetees
10:26 kivilahtio cait: thanks for the explanation, it is a clever system. I have been wondering what happens to shelving locations in some cases, like when the Item's holdingbranch changes.
10:26 kivilahtio well hardly it matters since we are not going to float our collections
10:47 cait bag: ping?
10:47 wahanui Using deft allegory, the authors have provided an insightful and intuitive explanation of one of Unix's most venerable networking utilities.[…]oks/dp/0448421658
10:47 cait kivilahtio: hm I think if you float the locations tays the same
10:47 cait so maybe libraries floating don't use location as much - i imagine they are using the callnumber mostly
10:49 kivilahtio cait: we have the same call number in many places inside one library building
10:50 kivilahtio cait: PKA 84.2 JEN, can be in the adult department and in the juvenile department
10:50 kivilahtio thus the shelving location is pretty important
10:51 kivilahtio "PKA 84.2 JEN" being the signum
10:52 kivilahtio cait: But I think we got this issue under control for now :)
11:18 cait i think it's probablyonly a problem wehn you float
11:18 cait the items stay where they go .. and go on the shelves in the other library
11:18 cait instead of just going to the circulation desk/pickup area
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11:21 cait hi paul_p
11:21 paul_p hi cait
11:23 cait congratulations again :)
11:23 paul_p cait thanks. (well, I think it should more be "safe travel" than "congratulation", because it's more the beginning of something than a success ;-) )
11:24 cait making the first step is often the hardest bit :)
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12:53 francharb good morning
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13:23 oleonard Hi #koha
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13:37 cait hi oleonard
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13:50 magnuse the return of un-bug 11567
13:51 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11567 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Shortcut is searching with every keypress
13:51 oleonard The comment on Bug 11325?
13:51 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11325 minor, P5 - low, ---, scrosby000, Failed QA , Focus not on "Add Item" in Lists
13:58 * oleonard basks in the glow of a canceled morning meeting
14:02 cait fridolin++
14:02 marcelr i agree fridolin++
14:03 oleonard Joubu++ # For bug 11616
14:03 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11616 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , The tablesorter plugin is no longer in use
14:03 marcelr Joubu++ too also for bug 11278
14:03 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11278 normal, P5 - low, ---,, Signed Off , Adjusting for customization routine and verbose printing
14:05 Joubu hey, a ++ party :)
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14:08 marcelr party++
14:11 oleonard Bug 11612 is interesting. I can see the point about the IntranetNav links, but I'm not sure one should expect security from people not knowing Koha staff client links
14:11 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11612 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , 404 error page for Intranet may leak information
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16:05 oleonard jcamins around?
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17:18 oleonard @wunder 45701
17:18 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is -10.0°C (11:31 AM EST on January 27, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -18.0°C. Windchill: -18.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until noon EST today...
17:22 rhcl @wunder 64507
17:22 huginn rhcl: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is -12.4°C (11:22 AM CST on January 27, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: -22.0°C. Windchill: -12.0°C. Pressure: 30.56 in 1035 hPa (Rising). Wind Chill Advisory in effect until noon CST today...
17:44 oleonard down for me too.
17:45 rhcl it's broke
17:46 oleonard Well, if you want to get technical about it...
17:46 rhcl init 6
17:48 druthb *** Ruthie is going down for system maintenance RIGHT NOW.
17:48 druthb :P
17:49 rhcl who, besides wizzyrea, is a sysop for koha-community? I'm not even sure I know who hosts the site.
17:50 druthb not it!
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17:54 reiveune bye
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18:19 bshum rhcl: Maybe[…]nd_administrators is correct.
18:19 * bshum is just a visitor
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18:27 rhcl bshum: cool, tnx
18:28 * cait waves
18:29 * bshum waves back to cait
18:29 cait hi bshum :) how are you doing?
18:29 bshum cait: Pretty well.  Just another day in paradise.
18:30 cait ah, can not say the same about today here... but maybe tomorrow will be better
18:30 bshum Though coincidentally I was just fixing up the Evergreen website from some meltdown too.  The conspirator in me says some evil bot tried to kill both open source ILS websites at the same time!
18:31 cait oh no!
18:31 bshum I always hope for better tomorrows.
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19:02 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
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19:09 rangi morning
19:09 cait morning rangi
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19:15 mtompset Greetings, rangi cait. :)
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19:42 wizzyrea web sites?
19:43 wizzyrea web sites?
19:43 wahanui[…]te_Administration
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19:57 mtompset blou? *ping*
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21:04 * mtompset puts on his chauffeur's hat.
21:22 magnuse have fun #koha!
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21:30 MrAgent075 Guten Morgen!
21:30 wahanui i guess guten morgen is german :)
21:31 MrAgent075 That is Correct wahanui. 5 Points for Gryffindor
21:31 cait heh
21:31 cait only it's evening in German ynow :)
21:31 cait Guten Abend!
21:32 eythian hi
21:32 wahanui kai ora, eythian
21:32 eythian cait: I'm sure he means "Good Tomorrow", because you have the same word for two different times and that's really silly :)
21:33 cait eythian: what are you talking about?
21:33 cait oh morgen.
21:33 cait but we are in the past...
21:34 MrAgent075 Time Travel. #muchtricky #verytime #sobrainteaser #wow
21:37 wizzyrea cait's 12 hours behind us :) or 13? I can never remember.
21:37 cait 'only' 12
21:43 eythian MrAgent075: those aren't real channel names
21:44 wizzyrea *snerk*
22:12 wizzyrea is there a way to do a "title begins with" search in Koha, I feel like I know the answer to this question but... it's escaped my mind.
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22:12 cait hm yes i think so
22:13 cait the manual says
22:13 cait ti,first-in-subfield=C (will show you all titles that               start with the letter 'C')
22:13 cait http://manual.koha-community.o[…]/searchguide.html
22:13 wizzyrea heh naturally, thanks cait
22:13 wizzyrea cait++
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22:29 BobB good morning
22:29 eythian wahanui: cthulhu is <reply>I'll tell you what I want what I r'yleh r'yleh want
22:29 wahanui eythian: wish i knew
22:30 eythian wahanui: cthulhu is <reply>I'll tell \you \what \I want what \I r'yleh r'yleh want
22:30 wahanui eythian: bugger all, i dunno
22:30 eythian wahanui: cthulhu is <reply>I'll tell \you \what \I want \what \I r'yleh r'yleh want
22:30 wahanui OK, eythian.
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23:48 mtompset Greetings, papa
23:49 mtompset Greetings, wizzyrea eythian #koha.
23:51 barton During migration, we had a book marked as "missing" which had in fact been marked lost, and the fine was forgiven in the legacy system. The patron is now accruing fines on the "missing" item. If the status is set to "Lost", will the fines stop accruing?

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