IRC log for #koha, 2013-12-16

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00:22 jcamins Does anyone have any better suggestions for king mackarel than green Thai curry?
00:23 jcamins (not that I can think of much to top a Thai green curry)
00:24 wizzyrea polenta crumbed and pan fried.
00:24 wizzyrea not that it is *better* than curry, but different from curry.
00:25 jcamins Actually, we got a big fish this week, so maybe I'll do both. :D
00:40 dcook both \o/
00:40 * dcook is so tempted to get curry today...
02:21 jcamins That was the best Thai curry I have ever had.
02:23 wizzyrea yay!
02:23 jcamins I didn't have as much fish as I thought, so there was no polenta-crumbed mackarel.
02:25 wizzyrea oh well, another day ;)
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02:53 jcamins cait?
02:53 wahanui cait: go to bed
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03:12 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
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05:23 mtompset Greetings, dcook kenan24
05:24 mtompset Well. I'm calling it a day. Have a great day, #koha.
06:10 dcook night #koha
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06:47 * cait waves tiredly
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07:27 arunkumars3189 hi
07:27 wahanui hola, arunkumars3189
07:29 arunkumars3189 hola
07:29 wahanui what's up, arunkumars3189
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07:41 reiveune hello
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07:49 alex_a bonjour
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07:50 marcelr hi #koha
07:54 * magnuse waves
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08:20 nlegrand Hey #koha o/
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08:20 cait good morning #koha
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08:25 gaetan_B hello
08:37 cait hi gaetan_B
08:37 cait :)
08:42 * magnuse waves again
08:43 cait morning magnuse
08:44 magnuse hiya cait
08:44 magnuse back at work?
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09:13 cait yep
09:13 cait reading a gazillion mails
09:13 cait well sorting and deleting most of it first
09:28 magnuse good plan :-)
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11:10 ashimema mornin' #koha
11:29 ashimema anyone here using Koha::Contrib::tamil indexer?
11:29 ashimema I'm wondering what it adds to the game now that bug 6435 has been pushed?
11:29 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6435 major, P5 - low, ---, dpk, Pushed to Stable , [ENH] Added daemon mode parameters to
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12:51 tcohen morning #koha
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12:57 cait ashimema + tcohen = ping!
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13:00 tcohen hi ashimema
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13:11 francharb good morning #koha
13:11 tcohen hi francharb
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13:29 oleonard Hi #koha
13:29 cait hi oleonard :)
13:30 tcohen hi oleonard
13:31 jenkins_koha Starting build #145 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
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13:59 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #145: UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.12.x/145/
13:59 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Update history.txt for Koha 3.14.0 release
13:59 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 11307: Fix potential XSS attack in public catalog RSS feed
13:59 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 7143: Cleaning up docs/history.txt
13:59 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10809: use branches template plugin in serials search
13:59 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11245: fix typo in javascript string
13:59 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 10996: Allow numeric subfields to be stripped on export
13:59 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11307 critical, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Potential XSS attack vector in opac rss feed
13:59 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11061: remove unused routine Koha::Calendar::_mock_init
13:59 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11146: Show a go back link on no permission page
13:59 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 7491: improve description of the item-level_itypes syspref
14:00 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---,, ASSIGNED , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
14:00 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10809 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , use template branches plugin in serials search
14:00 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11245 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , typo in javascript string
14:00 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10996 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , Cannot exclude numeric subfields on export
14:00 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11061 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Koha::Calendar::_mock_init is unused
14:00 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11146 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Show a go back link on no permission page
14:00 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7491 normal, P5 - low, ---,, Pushed to Stable , Description for item-level_itypes is misleading
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14:00 * Oak waves
14:10 magnuse Oak
14:11 Oak magnuse
14:11 Oak \o/
14:11 oleonard A giant magnuse? Impossible?[…]-21-space-specter
14:11 magnuse \o/
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14:12 magnuse yeah, fighting robots is something i have taken a liking to doing in my spare time lately...
14:12 * magnuse waves to talljoy
14:12 talljoy hi magnuse!
14:13 * oleonard hands magnuse a robots.txt
14:13 Oak funny
14:13 magnuse lol, clever!
14:13 Oak :)
14:14 magnuse (and by lol, i mean i *actually* laughed out loud :-)
14:14 oleonard I learned that one from the surprise ending of "Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla"
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14:19 ashimema hi tcohen.. i'm back now.
14:22 tcohen hi ashimema
14:22 ashimema tcohen, I wondered if you could give me a brief rundown of what the tamil indexer does as a comparison to (with deamon mode and locking)?  I'd like to get bug 8773 checked off and am wondering about the coice of tmil vs native koha ;)
14:22 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup
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14:28 tcohen tamil's indexer is a collection of tools, plus the indexer. They are OO and nice. I don't like that it is outside the codebase
14:28 tcohen of the community's repo
14:29 tcohen bug 5166 proposed to refactor as a library and a daemon script
14:29 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5166 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, CLOSED WONTFIX, Reintroduce a zebraqueue daemon, make several functions a lib
14:29 tcohen (i don't like having getting bigger and bigger)
14:30 tcohen bug 8773 specifically implements a straightforward to use any indexer script on a pre-instance basis
14:30 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup
14:30 tcohen s/pre/per/
14:31 tcohen what it does already exists on the 3.12 onwards codebase as
14:31 tcohen this is just the packages counterpart
14:32 ashimema yeah, it would be nice to factor out rebuild into a library..
14:32 ashimema I see..
14:33 ashimema So, theoretically it shoudl work with either Tamil or the Deamon mode of rebuild_zebra depending upon the config
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14:33 ashimema I'm still reaing through the comment history of the bug.. it's huge
14:33 tcohen yes, /etc/default/koha-common would be the place to set it
14:34 tcohen oh, I recall Tamil's indexer depended on Moose, which put it on hold in some people's minds
14:34 ashimema cheers tcohen.. I'll take a look at it shortly..
14:34 ashimema I suppose I should really get my head around the Tamil indexer at some point too as to make an informed decision on wether to stick to koha's internal script of use theirs
14:35 tcohen even thou I maintain our own packages set for 3.12.x at UNC, including 8773 patches
14:36 tcohen I stopped using the indexer daemon until I figure out why it is failing for authorities (DOM)
14:37 tcohen by the way, we used 5166's daemon in production for a couple of years until I realized it wouldn't get into Koha, and took me too much effort to rebase against every refactoring/modification
14:37 ashimema ack..
14:38 ashimema so there's three disperate efforts to do the same things.. doug's recent work on directly, your factoring out as a library, and tamils work external to koha altogether.. what a mess
14:38 ashimema thanks for clearing up the history
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14:48 jcamins For future reference, if anyone decides to sew a pamphlet made of paper in octavo, punching holes for the sewing is much easier after opening the pages.
14:51 jenkins_koha Starting build #423 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:51 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #423: SUCCESS in 22 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/423/
14:51 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add info about  OVERRIDE_SYSPREF
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14:59 Oak jcamins++
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15:04 ashimema OK tcohen, now I've caught up on the back story, I'll go ahead and QA it.  Thanks for all the background.
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15:19 rambutan @wunder 64507
15:19 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is -4.5°C (9:19 AM CST on December 16, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising).
15:26 ashimema @wunder stevenage, uk
15:26 huginn ashimema: The current temperature in Pin Green, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 10.6°C (3:21 PM GMT on December 16, 2013). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
15:26 Oak @wunder islamabad
15:26 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad Airport, Pakistan is 15.0°C (8:00 PM PKT on December 16, 2013). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa.
15:34 rambutan hey Oak, how are you?
15:43 Oak hello rambutan, i'm good, how are you?
15:43 rambutan good, good
15:52 gmcharlt not particularly, no
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16:04 * druthb waves to mtompset
16:04 rambutan well :)
16:04 mtompset greetings, #koha.
16:04 rambutan greetings naman
16:04 mtompset Greetings, druthb rambutan.
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16:06 rambutan Well, I need to go do my Monday morning walk-around and see what the gremlins did over the weekend
16:08 reiveune bye
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16:23 rambutan Well, that walk-about cost me $10
16:23 mtompset @seen paul_p
16:23 huginn mtompset: paul_p was last seen in #koha 4 days, 19 hours, 53 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <paul_p> rangi ??? plug ?
16:24 paul_p mtompset yes ?
16:25 mtompset I'm in the midst of commenting on your reply to the file upload bug.
16:26 mtompset The dangling URLs and non-file-upload URLs (what I called external) don't quite handle smoothly.
16:27 mtompset It's not about URL validity, but rather is the URL a file-uploa URL.
16:28 mtompset (don't jump to the delete screen if it is a non-file-upload URL)
16:29 mtompset (don't jump to the delete screen if the file-upload URL is dangling)
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16:29 mtompset Greetings, Oak.
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17:00 oleonard Oi. Meetings. :P
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17:02 rambutan but oh, the coffee, juice, bagles with cream cheese and muffins make meetings so worth it
17:03 oleonard Yeah, *if* it comes with coffee juice bagels with cream cheese muffins.
17:03 rambutan ? don't all meetings have nice amenities?
17:04 tcohen anyone on wheeze?
17:05 jcamins oleonard: I went on a no-meeting strike until my boss agreed to have food available.
17:06 oleonard jcamins: I imagine that wasn't a long drawn-out fight
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17:06 jcamins oleonard: he was surprisingly understanding about the importance of fresh-baked goods.
17:07 oleonard I think next time I'll have to bring the snacks myself, particularly if it's going to run 3 hours
17:08 mtompset tcohen: wheezy?
17:08 wahanui wheezy is testing
17:09 tcohen i need to confirm instance creation fails because of  wheeze using Apache 2.4
17:09 tcohen i'm about to write a patch for that
17:09 jcamins tcohen: cait tried it and had problems.
17:09 cait tcohen: i have a write up what I did
17:09 cait tcohen: if you want to compare?
17:10 jcamins cait: still on vacation?
17:10 cait nope
17:10 cait working
17:10 jcamins I thought you were going to be back at work today.
17:10 cait and still at work actually... but i almost see the gorund of my inbox now
17:10 tcohen apache 2.4's a2ensite expect the instance definition files be named .conf
17:10 cait tcohen: that's only one of the things
17:10 tcohen the other was permissions?
17:10 jcamins Oh, right. Someone took kf.
17:10 cait yeah and a third one
17:10 cait sec
17:11 tcohen auth-compat?
17:11 cait jcamins: salt into my wounds?
17:11 cait might have done stupid things, but that's my write up
17:11 cait i think one problem was related to the setup - localhost
17:13 tcohen ok, i'll post a patch that detects apache 2.4 and appends .conf to the file names
17:14 tcohen and also might enable access_compat
17:14 tcohen a2enmod access_compat
17:14 tcohen is there a bug for this cait?
17:16 cait tcohen: no i didn't file one - took me a day to figure it out and i was not sure if i really did something that made sense :)
17:16 tcohen heh
17:16 cait should we fix the permissions?
17:16 tcohen i struggled with this when I upgraded my lapotop to 13.10
17:16 cait same...
17:16 tcohen access_compat might solve it
17:16 tcohen downloading an iso to reproduce
17:17 tcohen I think tweaking the permissions should be done by the user for now
17:17 tcohen i mean, is an upstream error IMHO
17:17 fredericd tcohen: Have you seen bug 11081? I've introduced the Tamil indexer into Koha code base
17:17 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11081 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Needs Signoff , Port Koha::Contrib::Tamil indexer into Koha code base
17:17 tcohen oh, no :-D
17:17 tcohen didn't notice it before!
17:18 fredericd I don't think it should be too difficult to sign this patch, since you already how it works...
17:22 tcohen i'll give it a rige fredericd
17:22 tcohen ride
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17:52 tcohen hmmmm
18:12 tcohen @later tell cait bug 11404
18:12 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
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18:19 * cait waves
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18:20 cait tcohen: your later is abit cryptic
18:21 tcohen_ i created a bug for the Apache 2.4 issue
18:21 tcohen_ just that
18:21 cait aah :) ok
18:22 tcohen i don't think my patch is a complete solution, we need changing the docs for 2.4 users
18:23 tcohen anyway, gotta leave now
18:23 tcohen bye #koha
18:23 cait have a nice evening :)
18:30 gaetan_B bye !
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19:23 rangi morning
19:23 oleonard Hi rangi
19:23 rambutan afternoon
19:23 rangi[…]ha-trademark-case
19:24 * rangi updates his blogpost
19:24 rambutan ooooh, we got slashdotted. We're up there now, major leagues.
19:30 oleonard The comments on that post... Yeah.
19:31 rangi slashdot is not even close to what it used to be
19:31 rambutan yea, too many other Web2.0 sites
19:33 ibeardslee so many other sites reguritating content from other sites
19:34 ibeardslee the worst are the ones that just have the first paragraph or so of an article from another site with a link to it to read more .. and then 'spam' that to social media to get the hits for ad revenue
19:35 rangi http://kohadevreactions.tumblr[…]ohails-could-talk
19:36 rangi i love workaholics
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19:46 jcamins Windows--
19:47 gmcharlt I think this is the first time in over six months that I actually looked at a post on Slashdot
19:47 jcamins gmcharlt: I read headlines.
19:47 jcamins Occasionally.
19:47 druthb http://devopsreactions.tumblr.[…]g-3rd-party-stuff  <—if I didn't love this job so much, this would be more painful.
19:47 jcamins I used to read slashdot, and now Chrome autocompletes it.
19:47 gmcharlt I skim it in my feed reader, but ... wow, most of the posts sound ... young
19:47 druthb I get the headlines in my RSS feed, and once in a while, I read something.  Rarely the comments.
19:54 rambutan jcamins: funny
20:05 rangi yeah its just as well its not like it used to be, cos there is a link to my blog on that story, that would have crippled it in the olden days
20:08 cait hi rangi
20:09 wizzyrea the slashdot article, well, comments did teach me one thing that I didn't know and should have.
20:09 wizzyrea the location of the original Zealand.
20:10 wizzyrea hm suppose I should be watching for slashdotting on the community site as well
20:10 rangi heh you really dont have to worry
20:11 wizzyrea naw, just watching.
20:12 oleonard wizzyrea: Does use a caching plugin?
20:13 wizzyrea yea, wp-super-cache
20:13 wizzyrea whyfor?
20:14 * wizzyrea decides not to upgrade wp whilst the link is on slashdot front page.
20:14 wizzyrea in case it goes dumb.
20:15 rambutan "whilst"? What's become of you wizzyrea?
20:16 wizzyrea daddy done fell out the deer stand agin.
20:16 wizzyrea git yer sister, we's goin to dat dere horspital.
20:17 cait wizzyrea: confused non-native speaker :)
20:17 wizzyrea :)
20:17 oleonard wizzyrea: Just curious, since I'm trying to learn more about WP
20:18 wizzyrea ^ is for cait
20:21 wizzyrea so. awful.
20:21 oleonard "Some fool stole my buggy at the Piggly-Wiggly" Ha!
20:22 wizzyrea :)
20:23 wizzyrea now I have lost all sense of what I was doing.
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20:28 jcamins wizzyrea: isn't Zeeland in the Netherlands?
20:28 wizzyrea yep
20:29 jcamins Why on earth was that mentioned in Slashdot comments?
20:29 * jcamins looked and didn't see that post.
20:30 ashimema fredericd
20:30 wahanui fredericd is translation manager for 3.8
20:30 wizzyrea someone asked, sarcastically, and got an honest answer.
20:30 wizzyrea because sarcasm can't stand on the internet ;)
20:30 ashimema fredericd: also interested in your tamil work getting into koha.. should be interesting
20:30 jcamins Alas, where is marcelr when we need him? Now I want to know what "zee" means.
20:30 wizzyrea probably "sea"
20:31 jcamins Apparently so.
20:31 wahanui apparently so is just after fa
20:31 wizzyrea zee-land = sea-land
20:31 jcamins Huh, I always thought Zeeland was on the east side of the country.
20:31 jcamins The fact that it's on the west side of the country makes this *much* clearer.
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20:40 cait @later tell tcohen - looked at the photos - looks like a great party :)
20:40 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
20:40 cait hi barton
20:43 magnuse have fun #koha!
20:44 cait oh and hi kathryn ;)
20:45 kathryn hiya cait
20:45 cait :)
20:49 oleonard A new Koha mailing list? *sigh*
20:50 cait hm yeah
20:50 cait i though that too actually
20:50 cait and another english speaking one as well
20:50 jcamins Hey, does anyone else recognize the name "Kohana"? I feel like I've heard it before.
20:51 oleonard Kohana: The Swift PHP Framework
20:51 jcamins I guess it's a PHP framework, but I feel like I might've heard it in a Koha context.
20:53 oleonard You guys don't understand, North American Koha users were clogging up the main Koha list with numerous questions specific to North America and it was just too much.
20:53 oleonard Alternatively: North American Koha users have super-secret stuff to talk about and you have to be North American to understand.
20:55 cait oh, it's good that you explained that
20:55 cait :)
20:56 * druthb waves her snark-o-meter at oleonard, to see if it detects snark coming from him.
20:57 * druthb bangs her snark-o-meter against the arm of her chair.  "Darn thing's busted."
20:59 druthb wow, 3PM already.  where has the day gone?
21:00 oleonard all that snark doesn't detect itself druthb
21:00 * druthb nods.
21:00 druthb You may have oversnarked it.
21:00 druthb broke mah meter.
21:02 gmcharlt oleonard: the motivation is much more to create a vehicle around which there can be at least the possibility of there being NA Koha conferences
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21:04 wizzyrea (which makes some sense.)
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21:05 gmcharlt if regional conferences make sense anywhere, they presumably make sense for North American too
21:13 nengard I'm with gmcharlt
21:13 nengard there is a french users group, why not a north american one
21:14 nengard lots of open source software apps have multiple local users groups
21:14 wizzyrea yep, just call it KohaCamp or something
21:14 wizzyrea not kohacon. :P
21:14 nengard who's calling it kohacon?
21:14 nengard what did i mis
21:14 nengard miss
21:15 rangi no one is, just preemptive
21:15 nengard Of course there is only one KohaCon
21:15 nengard and there is only one Koha
21:15 rambutan quick, somebody trademark "KohaCon"
21:15 cait nengard: i tihn local user groups make sense
21:15 cait just wondering if dividing users up into so many mailing lists will work out
21:15 cait but we will see:)
21:16 nengard again - there are other language lists
21:16 nengard already
21:16 rambutan someday I'm going to start a list for Koha system admins.
21:16 oleonard Right, because those folks speak different languages
21:17 nengard true, but the issues discussed on a North American user's group list would be related to local meetings and developments that maybe libraries in the same country can co-develop etc etc
21:17 nengard You know me - I'm all about community and pushing everyone to participate in the global lists and chats etc
21:18 nengard but I also see why smaller local groups might want this kind of thing
21:18 gmcharlt rambutan: funny you should mention that; there was an abortive effort to do something similar in Evergreen, but it didn't go anywhere
21:18 gmcharlt in part, because of concerns about splitting the focus of open-ils-dev
21:18 gmcharlt which led to a /very/ chilly reception of the idea
21:18 rambutan well, I am serious, BTW, but there clearly isn't enough mass to support it right now
21:19 gmcharlt and in part, because ultimately there wasn't enough critical mass to push through the objections
21:19 rangi the proof is in the pudding
21:19 * cait agrees
21:19 rangi people use it, and still use the main list, its good
21:19 oleonard I think creation of a second kind of list should follow on the heels of "Gee, we sure are getting way to many of X kind of messages on the list"
21:19 rangi no one can predict it
21:20 rambutan I think that someday there will need to be a chat channel for sysadmins too. I mean, devs are nice to share this channel with occasional...
21:21 * gmcharlt generally favors the notion that if somebody wants a list, they're free to create it -- so long as the general understanding and expectation is that lists are allowed to and /will/ die after a few months in inactivity
21:21 rambutan off topic discussion, but I'm sensitive to the need to not distract devs from doing real work
21:22 rangi talking to your users is real work
21:22 rangi any dev that thinks it isnt, isnt a very good dev
21:22 rangi :)
21:22 gmcharlt and it's not like IRC is like a phone
21:22 rangi phones--
21:22 gmcharlt in *principle* a dev can turn it off if they need to concentrate
21:22 gmcharlt in practice... it does vary a bit ;)
21:23 rambutan yea, well, nice of you to say so, but when devs are talking about how to implement a bubble-up-and-down sort using javascript, it just doesn't seem....
21:23 nengard I think that we've gotten too sensitive on issues like this (user groups and such) because of past evils ... it's not all gonna go the way it did in the past
21:23 rambutan right to break in with a question about how to integrate a children's playstation with koha
21:24 rangi ahh, it's totally right to do that, as long as you dont specifically address one
21:24 rangi thats like us all in a room having 2 discussions
21:24 rangi thats fine
21:24 gmcharlt if we had rather more people actively talking, I definitely could see more reason to split channels
21:24 rangi its when you walk over and yell at me
21:24 jcamins I can see value in an additional mailing list for people who want something more like #koha in terms of "I'm doing something nuts and I want some feedback on it" without getting a "PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE ME FROM THIS STUPID LIST YOU GUYS WRITE TOO MUCH" in response.
21:24 gmcharlt but ... we're not /that/ chatty IMO
21:24 rangi that that is bad
21:25 jcamins gmcharlt: except on baking day. Should there be a #koha-cooking channel? ;)
21:25 rangi heh
21:25 druthb koha-cooking++
21:25 gmcharlt jcamins: that sounds positively torturous
21:25 gmcharlt all of those /promises/ of delcious food
21:25 cait mmh cookies!
21:25 gmcharlt but nothing in real life
21:25 gmcharlt ;)
21:25 jcamins I've started deliving holiday cookies to the building staff.
21:26 cait maybe we should keep #koha for the cookies, and split off a dev chat :)
21:26 gmcharlt @quote add <cait> maybe we should keep #koha for the cookies, and split off a dev chat :)
21:26 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.  Quote #285 added.
21:26 cait heh
21:26 jcamins gmcharlt: so there are cookies in real life for some people, at least!
21:26 jcamins This is what you get for moving to Seattle instead of NYC.
21:27 gmcharlt jcamins: indeed; downside to every decision
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23:04 cait @later tell khall_away could you take a nother look at 11336? waiting to do QA there when the follow up is agreed on :)
23:04 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
23:04 cait @later tell khall - could you take a nother look at 11336? waiting to do QA there when the follow up is agreed on
23:04 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
23:04 * dcook waves so that cait can go to bed :p
23:04 cait oh an di forgot to ask you about monday this morning
23:04 cait what would you have told me?
23:05 dcook Hmm, that's a good question
23:05 dcook It started out rainy but got warm
23:05 dcook I bought some new boots
23:05 * dcook doesn't really recall much other than that
23:05 dcook Mangos are delicious especially with ice cream?
23:05 cait lol
23:05 cait not with icecream?
23:05 cait well mango icecream is delicious
23:05 dcook Also delicious
23:06 cait oh misread :)
23:07 cait hm
23:07 cait i iddn't do that
23:08 cait but other weird things happened...
23:08 cait keep an eye on tuesday for me ok?
23:08 cait btw - eythian - today we had white fog all day, you might have got lost :)
23:08 dcook Can do ;)
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