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wizzyrea |
wow seriously, I say hi and I get a troutslap. That's novel. |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: that happens to you a lot, I've noticed. |
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jcamins |
Maybe it's your client? |
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wizzyrea |
i am not sure if you are trying t be funny. |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: no, several times you've said "hi," and some random lurker has slapped you with a troutpot. |
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jcamins |
*troutbot, whatever |
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jcamins |
I'm wondering if your client might be set up to send I-don't-know-what when you send a message. |
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fredericd |
cait: I've got a question for you about translated frameworks |
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cait |
yes? |
| 09:59 |
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fredericd |
taking a look at bug 11068 |
| 09:59 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11068 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, In Discussion , Update MARC21 es-ES default frameworks fields and translation |
| 10:00 |
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cait |
have you seen the po files on pootle? |
| 10:00 |
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fredericd |
I'm discovering that translated framework varies from one language to another |
| 10:00 |
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fredericd |
no: for po files |
| 10:00 |
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cait |
i think there are probably lots of inconsistencies |
| 10:00 |
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cait |
i know we found lots of missing fields and some typos in the en default frameworks as well |
| 10:01 |
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cait |
not sure i fi thas been tried with UNIMARC yet |
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fredericd |
that's it |
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cait |
my impression is, that the unimarc frameowrks for en have not been maintained :( |
| 10:01 |
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fredericd |
the master 'en' version of the files has shifted from the original version which was used to base translated version |
| 10:02 |
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cait |
this is still pretty much in testing, but i like the idea and my tests for marc21 look very good |
| 10:02 |
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fredericd |
you're correct: it's unusable, being not it par anymore with zebra indexes |
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cait |
http://translate.koha-community.org/de/ |
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cait |
there you can see the po files for marc21 |
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fredericd |
So it means, it won't be necessary anymore to maintain translated version in SQL files? |
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fredericd |
for frameworks |
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cait |
we can generate the sql files |
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cait |
from the po and the en file |
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cait |
bgkriegel has done scripts for that |
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cait |
and after fixing the inconsistencies i mentioned it looks quite good |
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fredericd |
Is there a bug number for that? |
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cait |
i think we are stil testing mostly, let me find another link for you |
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cait |
bgkriegel automated it so for testing those files are regenerated... daily i think |
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cait |
i have to finish testing, but it looks quite good, we did a bug report for fixing inconsistencies |
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cait |
i tihnk best would be to drop him a quick mail, explaining about the UNIMARC problem |
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cait |
bug 11330 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11330 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Signed Off , Inconsistent field/subfield descriptions on MARC21 bibliographic frameworks |
| 10:06 |
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cait |
bug 10963 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10963 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , Simplified creation of MARC21 sample frameworks |
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cait |
i am not sure what would work for UNIMARC |
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cait |
it seems there are some things special to how unimarc is used in france, that might not apply everywhere? |
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fredericd |
Marginally yes, but it shouldn't prevent to get a unique UNIMARC version |
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cait |
maybe differences could be handled by some additional sql files, adding specialties to the default |
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cait |
but not sure how hard it will be to create a common source file for the translations |
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fredericd |
I suppose there are scripts to extract strings to be translated from 'en' frameworks. |
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fredericd |
cait: very hard. A UNIMARC/MARC21 po file would be dangerous |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
no, i mant a UNIMARC base file |
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cait |
with the problems you found fixed |
| 10:12 |
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cait |
and a separate po file, and one for normarc later on as well maybe |
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cait |
hm although probably noone wnats to translate normarc :) |
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cait |
i am hopin to test the last iteration for german marc21 frameworks today |
| 10:13 |
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cait |
and give him feedback about that |
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cait |
ok, stepping away from the computer for a bit - will be back in half an hour or so |
| 10:14 |
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fredericd |
So bug 10963 is a preamble to making framework translated? by reducing the number of strings |
| 10:14 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10963 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , Simplified creation of MARC21 sample frameworks |
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cait |
fredericd: it's more a parallel idea for now |
| 10:15 |
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cait |
the scripts can generate the existing frameworks, that's the conflict bernardo mentions in one of the comments |
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cait |
i think if that goes in, he will adapt his scripts |
| 10:15 |
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cait |
making maintaining the different frameworks easier, so a new field for example has not to be added to all of them |
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cait |
also triyng to fix inconsistencies that crept in over time, when we missed doing that |
| 10:16 |
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fredericd |
I'm worry about the intricacies with DBIx::Class... |
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cait |
hm not sure if that will be a problem here |
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cait |
i think galen said something about th einstaller files in one of his mails |
| 10:16 |
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cait |
about either make them run on postgres and marc21 |
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cait |
or change them to another kind of file that can be loaded with dbix tools |
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wahanui |
cait: that doesn't look right |
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cait |
ok, really gone now - bbiab |
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fredericd |
Current SQL files are pure SQL (mySQL). |
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fredericd |
ok |
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cait |
back |
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cait |
magnuse or ashimema or another wiki expert around? |
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* Oak |
waves |
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cait |
hi Oak :) |
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Oak |
hey! |
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bora |
Hello from Cambodia! |
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bora |
I need help with Khmer Unicode. |
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bora |
I cannot retrieve books in Khmer on the koha catalog |
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bora |
When I do cataloging, I can type it in Khmer, but I cannot retrieve it on OPAC |
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cait |
icu? |
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wahanui |
i think icu is needed, if you want to search non-Roman characters with Zebra |
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cait |
i had hoped for a wiki link wahanui |
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cait |
bora: you want to make sure you use ICU for indexing your records |
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bora |
Sorry, could you explain me what is ICU? |
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cait |
an indexing option for zebra |
| 16:30 |
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cait |
how did you install your koha? |
| 16:31 |
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cait |
this could help: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]of_Arabic_records |
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cait |
but leave out the arabic things :) |
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bora |
Thank you so much. We will try it. |
| 16:32 |
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bora |
And let you know if it works or not. Thank you!!! |
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cait |
np |
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cait |
hope it works! |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.7°C (7:20 PM CET on December 15, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.54 in 1034 hPa (Rising). |
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brendan_ |
@wunder 93102 |
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huginn |
brendan_: The current temperature in Westside, Santa Barbara, California is 19.7°C (10:25 AM PST on December 15, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
hi brendan_ :) |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (7:20 PM CET on December 15, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
5? wow! |
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rangi |
morning |
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cait |
hi magnuse, morning rangi |
| 19:05 |
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rangi |
this is nice |
| 19:05 |
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rangi |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-pre[…]sity-of-strangers |
| 19:05 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11277: fix errors with search facet links in Bootstrap theme <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3b577cb05da2f7879> |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1554 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1547 4 days 22 hr ago) |
| 19:09 |
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rangi |
im not sure what is up with that XISBN job |
| 19:09 |
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* cait |
didn't touch it |
| 19:09 |
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rangi |
nothing did |
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cait |
could be something at oclc's side? |
| 19:10 |
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rangi |
yeah |
| 19:25 |
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rangi |
thingisbn |
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rangi |
not xisbn, so thats the problem |
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wizzyrea |
hi |
| 20:01 |
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cait |
morning wizzyrea and kathryn |
| 20:01 |
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kathryn |
hiyee cait :) |
| 20:18 |
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wizzyrea |
hiya |
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cait |
@wunder wellington, nz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on December 16, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 1.0°C (9:00 PM CET on December 15, 2013). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.61 in 1036 hPa (Rising). |
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* magnuse |
waves to all the kool kiwis |
| 21:04 |
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rangi |
hey magnuse |
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wahanui |
magnuse is a Norwegian giant. |
| 21:04 |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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rangi |
did you see i got a patch in Catmandu? |
| 21:05 |
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magnuse |
yup |
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wizzyrea |
\o/ |
| 21:05 |
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magnuse |
and they took my advice on ingesting MARC::Record objects - hope that turns out to be useful |
| 21:05 |
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magnuse |
rangi++ |
| 21:06 |
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cait |
it looks like they are open for suggestions and help, that's cool |
| 21:07 |
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magnuse |
yup, sure is |
| 21:07 |
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rangi |
magnuse: yep, already using it for the elasticsearch stuff |
| 21:07 |
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magnuse |
w00t! |
| 21:07 |
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magnuse |
...which sounds really introguing, btw |
| 21:07 |
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rangi |
my $importer = Catmandu::Importer::MARC->new( records => $records, id => '999' ); |
| 21:08 |
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magnuse |
...or intriguing, your choice |
| 21:08 |
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rangi |
my $fixer = Catmandu::Fix->new( fixes => ['/home/chrisc/git/catalyst-koha/myfix.txt'] ); $importer = $fixer->fix($importer); |
| 21:08 |
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rangi |
then |
| 21:08 |
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rangi |
my $store = |
| 21:08 |
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wizzyrea |
it's all cloak and dagger, when it's introguing. |
| 21:08 |
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rangi |
Catmandu::Store::ElasticSearch->new( index_name => $self->index ); |
| 21:08 |
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rangi |
$store->bag->add_many($from); |
| 21:08 |
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rangi |
and its done |
| 21:08 |
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rangi |
so easy |
| 21:08 |
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magnuse |
awesome |
| 21:08 |
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rangi |
(well bit more too it, config and stuff, but thats the basics) |
| 21:08 |
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rangi |
i want to change id => '999' |
| 21:09 |
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cait |
khall: ? |
| 21:09 |
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rangi |
in the Importer too |
| 21:09 |
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magnuse |
i think i spotted a problem with using 999 for the record id - it's hardcoded to use $a from the field you give it? |
| 21:09 |
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rangi |
yeah |
| 21:09 |
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rangi |
thats what i want to fix |
| 21:09 |
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magnuse |
cool |
| 21:09 |
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rangi |
id=>999$c |
| 21:09 |
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rangi |
or something |
| 21:09 |
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wahanui |
it has been said that something is fishy |
| 21:09 |
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rangi |
let you pass in the subfield |
| 21:09 |
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magnuse |
i think they usually just say 999a |
| 21:09 |
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rangi |
999c then |
| 21:10 |
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rangi |
maybe 999|c |
| 21:10 |
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rangi |
then split on | |
| 21:10 |
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rangi |
just to make it cleaner |
| 21:11 |
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magnuse |
you can say marc_map( '245a','dc:title' );, so i thought it would make sense to use 999c, but a delimiter might be cleaner |
| 21:11 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1554: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1554/ |
| 21:11 |
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jenkins_koha |
Frédéric Demians: Bug 11277: fix errors with search facet links in Bootstrap theme |
| 21:11 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11277 major, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Bootstrap theme: error in link for showing all facets |
| 21:22 |
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magnuse |
have fun #koha! |
| 21:22 |
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cait |
good night magnuse |
| 21:34 |
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eythian |
hi |
| 21:35 |
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cait |
hi eythian |
| 21:36 |
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eythian |
How's Konstanz? |
| 21:36 |
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eythian |
@wunder nzwn |
| 21:36 |
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huginn |
eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0°C (10:00 AM NZDT on December 16, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:36 |
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cait |
eythian: grey and cold? |
| 21:36 |
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eythian |
here it's grey and warm. |
| 21:36 |
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cait |
hm |
| 21:37 |
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cait |
I'd prefer getting rid of the grey bit |
| 21:37 |
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eythian |
Apparently serious thunderstorms up north yesterday, but here it was clear skys. So I'm OK with that. |
| 21:38 |
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eythian |
And last night was the first night I couldn't sleep because it was too warm that I've had this summer. |
| 21:39 |
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cait |
just come bakc here - no problem with too warm :) |
| 21:44 |
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eythian |
heh, but then I'll get lost in fog or something. |
| 21:46 |
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cait |
hehe - no fog on the ground, you will be safe |
| 21:50 |
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cait |
meh, forgot to switch branches, now have to repeat all my tests :( |
| 21:53 |
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wizzyrea |
boo |
| 21:58 |
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eythian |
cait: I think that if tomorrow is like today, it'll be a shorts-wearing day. |
| 21:59 |
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eythian |
Well, actually, I'll be seeing the hobbit later, then it'll be cooler, so maybe not... |
| 21:59 |
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cait |
i think if tomorrow is like today, i will just want to stay in bed |
| 21:59 |
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eythian |
hwh |
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eythian |
*e |
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cait |
;) |
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cait |
good night all |
| 22:34 |
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cait |
dcook is here... i better go ;) |
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dcook |
lol |
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dcook |
night, cait ;) |
| 22:34 |
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dcook |
See you in the morning :) |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
you can tell me how monday was then, so I am prepared |
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rangi |
hehe ok |
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dcook |
lol |
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dcook |
Started out with light showers but I think I see the sun peaking out from behind the clouds |
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dcook |
morning, Irma :) |
