IRC log for #koha, 2013-12-02

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01:30 rangi @later tell magnuse catmandu is totally awesome, and so very very useful
01:30 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
01:31 dcook rangi: Why might that be?
01:32 rangi http://librecat.org/catmandu/2[…]-cheat-sheet.html
01:32 rangi you might want to start all your OAI work again hehe
01:32 rangi (its all perl too)
01:32 rangi http://search.cpan.org/dist/Ca[…]u/lib/Catmandu.pm
01:33 dcook Hehe. Yeah, I remember looking at it a bit a while ago.
01:33 dcook I wasn't too fussed over the OAI stuff, but maybe I should take another look.
01:33 rangi im mostly interested in this
01:33 rangi $ catmandu import MARC to ElasticSearch --index_name mydb --bag data < records.mrc
01:34 jcamins Yeah, catmandu is _really_ cool.
01:34 dcook Yeah, that's one that perked me up right away just now
01:34 rangi ill tell if it works in about 2 hours :)
01:34 dcook rangi++
01:35 dcook As for the OAI, the easy part is getting the response. It's figuring out how to do the local importing/overwriting/deleting that is the tough part :p
01:35 dcook Actually, that's next on the list after doing some custom label stuff...
01:35 rangi yeah
01:36 dcook Catmandu does seem like it would be a handy addition to Koha though...
01:36 rangi yup
01:37 jcamins Unfortunately, Catmandu doesn't fix the biggest problem with working with library data.
01:38 * jcamins waits patiently for the straight line.
01:38 rangi heh
01:39 jcamins (quote 123, for anyone who didn't know where I was going with that)
01:39 dcook hehe
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03:15 Azlan Hello everyone :)
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03:33 Azlan hmm
03:51 wizzyrea quiet today.
03:56 eythian monday is always quiet
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03:58 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
04:00 mtompset Quick question. Does opacuserjs expect the opening and closing script tags?
04:01 wizzyrea no
04:02 mtompset And that solves that problem.
04:03 mtompset If you include the script tags, the tabs bust on the opacdetails page because the script tags get nested.
04:03 mtompset under bootstrap.
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05:50 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
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07:43 rangi how to write an email guaranteeing i will not work on the things you raise, illustrated perfectly
07:44 rangi write everything as a demand
07:50 cait yeah, i can see your answer
07:50 cait wonder wyh I didn#t get the first email yet
07:50 cait might be stuck
07:50 cait for most of those things i filed bugs
07:50 cait like the javascript concatenation being aproblem
07:50 cait and the help files being separately
07:51 rangi yep, if you pay me you get to demand, if you want me to work for free, id appreciate a please
07:53 rangi however i will happily test and sign off any work that someone does on it
07:54 cait most are easy to fix
07:54 cait you just have to do it
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07:54 cait like the consistency problems
07:54 cait the javascript concatenation is a bit harder
07:55 cait imight provide bug numbers to his email a little later... gives him a good start;)
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07:56 marcelr hi #koha
07:56 marcelr hi alex_a
07:56 cait hi marcelr
07:56 marcelr and cait
07:56 alex_a hello marcelr
07:56 cait hi alex_a:)
07:56 sophie_m hello #koha
07:56 marcelr hi sophie_m
08:04 rangi marcelr: your colleague presented very well at NDF lots of positive feedback
08:04 marcelr hi rangi: good to hear
08:04 cait possible there was someone at swib too?
08:04 marcelr ?
08:05 cait i thought i had seen a lot of positive things on twitter that was not ndf :)
08:06 cait hm, must be mistaken then
08:07 cait i thought some german twitter people were talking about rijksmuseumtoo
08:07 marcelr not sure, could be :)
08:08 alex_a bonjour cait
08:09 cait hm not at swib it seems - but there sure were some positive comments in my timeline
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08:23 reiveune hello
08:28 Azlan CSS Edit of Bootstrap Koha 3.1400000 - http://library.pmc.edu.my - Feedback is appreciated.
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08:29 gaetan_B hello
08:37 rangi looks good
08:39 Azlan Thanks. Can test the responsive on mobile?
08:41 rangi works on the phone, except the menus overlap the middle block a bit
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08:42 Azlan Need to adjust the padding later. Thanks for testing
08:44 Azlan Done. Should fix that.
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08:53 cait looks nice :)
08:55 Azlan Thank you :)
09:20 ashimema cait: Just caught up with those mediawiki questions.. did you guys come to a conclusion?  Templates are the way to go, and there's nothing stopping us 'borrowing' templates from other wiki's out there as a basis to write our own.
09:31 cait ashimema: no conclusion i think
09:31 cait i am really a noob with mediawiki, so not sure what's possible
09:31 cait i always end up editing the template instead the page...
09:31 cait :)
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09:38 ashimema haha.. that probably means the template isn't good enough ;)
09:38 ashimema what were they watning to do?
09:38 ashimema I didn't get through the whole history of the conversation
09:39 cait they were talking about repeating parts in the installation instructions
09:39 cait like cloning the gitrepository
09:39 cait not sure it's worth templating or doable
09:39 cait but generally the wiki could use some tidy up i guess
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09:59 ashimema mmm.. you can include any page in the same way as you can a template.. you just need to add : at the beggining of the page name to prevent it just being a strange link.. {{:pagename}}
09:59 cait interesitng
09:59 ashimema It is how I do allot of our internal wiki stuff.. and something I was thinking of working on on community when I get a moment.
09:59 cait dokuwiki can do something ismilar with the include plugin
10:11 ashimema There's allot I'de like to do with the wiki, including upgrading the back end mediawiki version.. though it's running on postgres which is not the recommendation these days and messes up a number of extensions and make upgrade harder.. so I'm a bit at a lose as to what our next move is.
10:13 ashimema Tidying on the front and templating out things is a good start.. but I'd like to see a few extensions removed as part of clean up fairly early in that procedure to prevent people using legacy features for too long.
10:14 cait hm that makes sense to me
10:15 cait what is it recommend to run on?
10:21 ashimema mysql
10:22 cait ah
10:22 cait hm
10:22 cait i think equinox is hosting it
10:22 wahanui i already had it that way, cait.
10:22 cait and magnuse/thd take care of it - so maybe wewould have to talk to them about any changes
10:22 ashimema It was originally designed to be mysql backed.. and although mediawiki itself runs ok atop postgres, many of the extensions do not.
10:23 ashimema yeah, equ
10:23 ashimema inox host it..
10:23 ashimema I spoke to galen about it.. it's a longer term commitment than I can really make at the moment.
10:23 ashimema to continue supporting it once a bunch of changes have been made..
10:24 ashimema cat pressed return half way throuhg a wrod there.. thought it looked strange
10:24 ashimema ;)
10:24 cait not sure i understand that last sentence
10:26 ashimema I came up with a plan to tidy up the wiki.. and discussed it with galen.. The only problem wit the plan, is as galen pointed out.. it really needs someone to both impliment the cleanup, and then commit to maintaining it for a resonable amount of time so it doesn't just get out of hand again.. needs to get people 'trained' to keep it clean.
10:27 ashimema but being a wiki.. anyone can go in a start the cleaning process off.. ;0
10:36 cait i am definitely one who had to be trained in the ways of mediawiki :)
10:36 cait i mess it up too often myself
10:37 cait but i guess that's the current problem too
10:37 cait we don't have someone dedicated to actively maintain it
10:37 cait because we all lack time not motivation
10:39 ashimema very true.. time is always an issue.
10:45 ashimema right.. gotta nip out to take the cat to the vets.. happy to continue this convo when I get back
10:47 cait ... if the cats will let him... :)
11:38 ashimema haha.. thankfully caspa hasn't learnt to escape on vet day yet.. he's only 14 weeks old ;)
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11:41 cait ashimema: you have a kitten?
11:42 cait can i come and visit? :)
11:42 cait one day i might live in an apartment big enough... :)
11:42 ashimema You'de be very welcome to come visit cait..
11:43 ashimema I've thrown every penny and some into this place..  won't be moving on for a very very long time
11:43 cait aw
11:43 cait at least you have enough room for a cat :)
11:44 ashimema I've got the rooms, but currently me and caspa pretty much live in only one as I can't yet afford to buy any more furniture.. ;)
11:44 ashimema But yeah.. if you ever need somewhere to stay near London (about 25 mins train to centre) then your more than welcome
11:45 cait :)
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11:46 cait hi petter :)
11:46 petter Hi!
11:46 cait how are you doing?
11:47 petter I'm good, just back from a 3 week holiday in Japan
11:47 cait oh wow
11:47 cait that sounds nice
11:47 petter it was
11:47 petter & how are you?
11:48 cait on vacation for 2 weeks starting today - but not going as far as japan
11:48 cait just visiting some friends and family
11:49 cait plus christmas shopping
11:50 petter sounds good
11:52 cait well and apparently i ended up on #koha anyeay... so i should find a bug to look at :)
11:58 petter yea, there are plenty to  choose from:)
11:58 cait yeah... doesn't make it easier :)
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12:36 tcohen hi #koha, back online
12:37 cait hi tcohen :)
12:37 cait congratulations again!
12:37 cait how was the wedding?
12:37 tcohen awesome party
12:37 cait :)
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12:56 cait hi matts :)
12:56 matts hi !
12:57 cait :)
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13:09 francharb Good morning #koha
13:09 cait good morning francharb
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13:29 tcohen jcamins: MARC-JSON?
13:30 jcamins tcohen: MARC-in-JSON.
13:30 jcamins Welcome back!
13:30 wahanui cait abducted me.
13:30 jcamins And congratulations!
13:31 tcohen thanks Jared, and thanks :-D
13:32 cait all those married people here... :)
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15:01 druthb o/
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15:08 francharb druthb, \o
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15:53 jenkins_koha Starting build #1531 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:53 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11059: (follow-up) restore time in staged dates in addorderiso2709.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]728853a6041f59af5> / Bug 11059: fix date sorting of import batches in basket add form <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]13715c35d9dc186b4>
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16:03 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 2693: add ability to filter by reviewer name on tag review page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5acb2b9b12f89ddaf>
16:04 jenkins_koha Starting build #245 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
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16:23 reiveune bye
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16:23 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7791: (follow-up) adjust wording of basket deletion confirmation dialog <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7b1b28f47df19370e> / Bug 7791: (follow-up) add warning after deletion if some records were not deleted <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]90b1cee8f8145b6a8> / Bug 7791: (follow-up) tidy up some cruft in the mai
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16:54 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #245: SUCCESS in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/245/
16:54 jenkins_koha * Lyon3 Team: Bug 11059: fix date sorting of import batches in basket add form
16:54 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11059: (follow-up) restore time in staged dates in addorderiso2709.tt
16:54 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 2693: add ability to filter by reviewer name on tag review page
16:54 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11059 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Not possible to sort staged dates in metric format
16:54 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2693 enhancement, P3, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Tagging: Add filter by name
16:55 jenkins_koha Starting build #246 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
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17:44 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #246: SUCCESS in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/246/
17:44 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 7791: add ability to delete records when deleting a basket
17:44 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 7791: (follow-up) tidy up some cruft in the main patch
17:44 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 7791: (follow-up) add warning after deletion if some records were not deleted
17:44 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7791: (follow-up) adjust wording of basket deletion confirmation dialog
17:44 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7791 normal, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , Deleting basket should not delete all existing orders without warning
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17:51 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1531: SUCCESS in 2 hr 0 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1531/
17:51 jenkins_koha * Lyon3 Team: Bug 11059: fix date sorting of import batches in basket add form
17:51 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11059: (follow-up) restore time in staged dates in addorderiso2709.tt
17:51 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11059 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Not possible to sort staged dates in metric format
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17:51 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
17:52 mtompset Is anyone here familiar with facets? Particularly, is turning off sections of the facet listing possible?
17:53 jenkins_koha Starting build #1532 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
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18:19 tcohen bye #koha, see u tomorrow
18:45 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
18:45 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #135: FIXED in 30 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_3.12.x/135/
18:45 jenkins_koha * Ketan Kulkarni: Bug 10705: change 'shipment cost' to 'shipping cost'
18:45 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10705: follow-up - change one more instance of "shippment cost"
18:45 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 6201: (follow-up) update unit tests
18:45 jenkins_koha * Blou: Bug 6201: Add fields 1xx to marc2bibtex (for MARC21 and NORMARC)
18:45 jenkins_koha * Janusz Kaczmarek: Bug 10335: display translated forms of headings in UNIMARC authorities correctly
18:45 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10705 trivial, P5 - low, ---, ketan, Pushed to Stable , Shipment cost should be 'shipping'
18:45 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6201 normal, P5 - low, ---, eric.begin, Pushed to Stable , BibTeX export does not incude MARC21 main entry
18:45 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10335 minor, P5 - low, ---, januszop, Pushed to Stable , UNIMARC authorities search doesn't display properly information on parallel form
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18:59 mtompset Oh right. Serves me right for installing a new version of VirtualBox.
18:59 mtompset Greetings, cait.
18:59 cait hi mtompset
18:59 cait ashimema was around earlier today - he said there is a syntax to include one page in the other
19:00 cait you might want to check the logs for the syntax
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19:00 mtompset Blip... More device drivers.
19:00 mtompset That should be the last one.
19:01 mtompset Wow... nice improvement on the VirtualBox GUI.
19:01 mtompset Prettier. :)
19:17 mtompset Ah ha! I found the two bugs caused the scenario that I don't want.
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19:28 nengard uploading KohaCon13 videos now! A few are there: https://archive.org/search.php[…]3A%22kohacon13%22
19:28 nengard more to come  - and I'll post to list when I'm done
19:28 cait yay
19:28 cait thx nengard
19:28 nengard no prob
19:29 nengard it's taking a while cause the uploaded only lets me do one at a time
19:35 francharb nengard++
19:47 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1532: SUCCESS in 1 hr 55 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1532/
19:47 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 2693: add ability to filter by reviewer name on tag review page
19:47 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 7791: add ability to delete records when deleting a basket
19:47 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 7791: (follow-up) tidy up some cruft in the main patch
19:47 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2693 enhancement, P3, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Tagging: Add filter by name
19:47 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 7791: (follow-up) add warning after deletion if some records were not deleted
19:47 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7791: (follow-up) adjust wording of basket deletion confirmation dialog
19:47 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7791 normal, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , Deleting basket should not delete all existing orders without warning
19:55 gaetan_B bye !
20:01 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
20:01 * mtompset puts on his chauffeur hat.
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20:58 eythian hi
20:58 wahanui hi, eythian
21:02 rambutan hi eythian
21:02 eythian hello
21:02 wahanui what's up, eythian
21:03 cait hi eythian
21:03 rambutan hi cait, wahanui
21:03 wahanui rambutan: what?
21:03 cait hi rambutan
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21:13 * ebegin presents our team : http://www.inlibro.com/pubdoc/[…]uipe_CMD_2013.jpg
21:14 cait very cool :)
21:14 cait who is who?
21:14 eythian oh, hello cait
21:14 wahanui hello cait are you here?
21:14 cait i have recognized francharb :)
21:14 ebegin francharb, ebegin, simith, blou and alexandre
21:14 francharb :)
21:15 eythian I recognise some of those people :)
21:15 ebegin Simith and Alexandre are not IRC-ers (yet)
21:16 francharb We need to push them a little bit!
21:16 wizzyrea tell them we have cookies
21:16 francharb Hum good point!
21:17 cait push blou again too :P
21:17 cait lots of cookies
21:17 druthb so many cookies, we give 'em to the bots, too.
21:17 druthb wahanui:  botsnack cookie
21:17 wahanui :)
21:17 francharb ahah
21:18 rambutan and skittles
21:18 wahanui skittles are *not* food.  They are ammunition.
21:18 druthb wahanui++
21:18 druthb :P
21:18 rambutan bad timing for that bit
21:20 * blou just got whip'd
21:20 blou who, what?
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21:22 cait blou: just checking you are still there :)
21:23 * blou is slapped again
21:23 francharb hehe
21:23 blou ouch...  Hello Cait!
21:23 cait lol
21:23 cait hello blou
21:23 cait and i saidpush... not whip or slap
21:24 cait you have mean coworkers :)
21:24 blou Lost in translation
21:24 blou he's French
21:24 cait lol
21:24 francharb that says everything
21:25 cait yep
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22:17 mameha Hello.  I am new to Koha and planning to evaluate it. But we need a Japanese interface for Koha, at least for the core functions/labels.  Looking on http://translate.koha-community.org/ja/ it seems the 'terminology' is fully translated to JP but very little of the specific translations for each version.  Does this mean the interface will all be in Japanese or not at all?
22:17 rangi it will be if you translate it
22:18 rangi http://translate.koha-community.org is open for anyone to do translations
22:18 cait mameha:terminology is not used for the interface
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22:21 mameha too bad, thanks.
22:21 rangi *sigh*
22:21 joels68 Hi cait. Wie geht's heute?
22:22 cait gut, danke
22:22 cait und dir
22:22 cait ?
22:22 wizzyrea sigh indeed.
22:22 * cait sighs too
22:23 joels68 Gut fur Montag.
22:24 cjh wow.
22:24 joels68 Sounds like the NZ folk need some Team America: World Police to perk them up.
22:24 cjh heh, fantastic.
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22:25 joels68 Fuck yeah!!
22:25 eythian http://www.police.govt.nz/news/updates/31492 <-- we don't need that, we have Orca
22:25 joels68 Pardon my language...
22:25 dcook lol
22:25 dcook Good morning to you too, joels68 ;)
22:25 joels68 Hello dcook.
22:26 * dcook might have to look back at the logs
22:27 * joels68 walks across the bride of sighs...
22:27 dcook Ahh
22:28 joels68 Not that I'm not excited to have you join the chat, dcook
22:28 francharb bye all
22:28 dcook ta francharb
22:28 francharb see you tomorrow
22:28 dcook hehe. No worries, joels68. I'll add my sigh.
22:28 francharb :)
22:29 cait hi dcook
22:29 dcook hey ya cait :)
22:30 * joels68 walks across the BRIDGE fo sichs, rather
22:30 joels68 sighs
22:30 joels68 dammit!! Fat fingers strike again.
22:31 gmcharlt rule #666: attempts to correct typos will inevitably have typos
22:32 dcook hehe
22:32 jcamins joels68: yeah, that'd be kind of cruel. "Not only is your new last name 'sighs,' you're going to get walked across by random people.
22:32 eythian I think you'll find that it's only rule 66.
22:32 joels68 Get thee behind me, Satan!
22:34 joels68 Well, I didn't want everyone to think I walked across brides.
22:34 eythian It's probably a tradition, somewhere.
22:35 joels68 True.
22:36 * joels68 thinking on how to elevate the conversion he's drug down
22:36 joels68 conversation he's drug down...
22:37 dcook dragged?
22:37 eythian yeah, you can drug something up, but not down.
22:37 joels68 Probably.  I give up on trying to correct myself
22:37 dcook I think drug might be American.
22:38 dcook Not that I want to talk about grammar O_O
22:38 * dcook scuttles off to code something.
22:38 eythian I think it's just an incorrect orthography :)
22:38 * dcook refuses eythian's bait :p
22:39 jcamins In New York you can't drug anythign.
22:39 jcamins *anything
22:39 jcamins Well, unless you're a doctor.
22:39 eythian Not with that attitude, anyway.
22:40 cait wizzyrea: my opac runs now with https... sounds familiar?
22:40 wizzyrea yep
22:40 wizzyrea \o/
22:40 dcook wizzyrea: Did you get that patch through that makes Amazon use https?
22:41 cait so... someone around to do a sign off?
22:41 wizzyrea yea, it's signed off, through qa
22:41 wizzyrea I think just waiting on RM
22:41 dcook \o/
22:41 dcook Awesomesauce
22:41 dcook cait: Possibly. I should be doing something else, so it depends on the difficulty of the patch.
22:41 cait wizzyrea: not through qa yte
22:41 cait butworking on it
22:42 dcook wizzyrea++
22:42 dcook cait++
22:42 wizzyrea ah, yea, I thought kyle was the qa but he just signed off on it.
22:42 rangi bug 11322 has 1 patch waiting, 2 more patches to go, but the first one can be tested and signed off
22:42 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11322 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, ASSIGNED , Suggestion "notes" field should be sanitized or escaped
22:42 rangi its super easy to test
22:43 dcook Cool. Can do, rangi
22:44 * dcook has been slacking too much on his testing lately
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22:48 rangi patch 2, for the opac side now up
22:48 dcook Ah, I was just about to comment on that
22:49 rangi and the third patch will be stopping the html getting in there in the first place (thats why need to test the first 2 first)
22:49 dcook rangi++
22:49 dcook Let's see if I butcher bugzilla while trying to sign this off correctly...
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22:50 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
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22:50 dcook hey mtompset
22:50 wahanui i heard mtompset was catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry.
22:50 mtompset Hey, dcook! Can I blame you for some of my problems?
22:51 dcook You can probably blame me, but I'll only feel bad if I'm actually responsible for them.
22:51 mtompset (bug 10078 leaks shelving information on items hidden by OpacHiddenItems)
22:51 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10078 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , show location facet for all
22:52 dcook Intriguing.
22:52 dcook I assume that you've already dealt with the other facets?
22:53 mtompset We had, by shifting hidden items to shelving locations. ;)
22:54 dcook O_o
22:54 mtompset Then 3.14.x vs. 3.12.x pulled in your patch which shows the locations.
22:54 dcook I don't actually understand what you're saying there.
22:54 mtompset Okay... You have a branch in a building.
22:54 dcook What I mean is...does the itemtype, branch, etc show up for the hidden items
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22:54 mtompset In that building there are multiple shelving locations.
22:55 mtompset OpacHiddenItems does not show them in the results.
22:55 mtompset However, facets is a pain in the bleep.
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22:56 dcook So, all the item-level information that shows up in the facets shows up for OpacHiddenItems?
22:56 * dcook would imagine this to be the case
22:56 mtompset No, you can't get to the record.
22:56 mtompset It doesn't display.
22:56 mtompset (which is good)
22:57 dcook That's not what I'm saying, but I can infer what you're getting at.
22:57 wizzyrea but you could ascertain it's existence, which I suppose is bad (for some value of bad)
22:57 mtompset Yes.
22:57 mtompset That's the problem.
22:57 dcook You don't mind other facets showing up because they're fairly non-descript, while shelving locations tend to be a bit more indicative of those particular items?
22:57 mtompset Exactly.
22:57 dcook Hmm, that is a tough one.
22:58 mtompset So you have a shelving location with things which would be guessed at as bad.
22:58 mtompset A library name isn't really the problem.
22:58 mtompset Because that isn't going to have anything problematic in it.
22:58 dcook How about author?
22:58 wahanui hmmm... author is often empty when there is no 100
22:59 mtompset Koha does have marc tag hiding, but I haven't fully researched it.
22:59 dcook Facets certainly are a pain or rather...storing item data and bib data together is a pain.
22:59 dcook (which probably has other benefits)
22:59 cait i don#t think storing separately would help things much
23:00 dcook cait: You're probably right.
23:00 cait and other indexes can do it with flat records... we just have to figure out a better way of doing it
23:00 mtompset I agree with cait that it wouldn't help in that regard.
23:00 dcook mtompset: I would suggest removing it with jquery or putting a system preference around it if you're worried about people turning off their JS
23:00 mtompset Actually, I think there is a bug number somewhere... let me hunt for it again...
23:00 dcook There was some talk about how people might not want it to appear and that jquery or css was going to be the way to hide it
23:01 cait hm things i don#t want to have seen
23:01 cait .com being hardcoded for the covers... *sigh*
23:02 mtompset There it is bug 10891
23:02 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10891 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Make facets customisable
23:02 eythian can we trust that other domains have things like covers?
23:02 cait yes
23:02 cait for amazon we can
23:02 cait sorry, .. the amazon url is hardcoded to com
23:02 cait and we have a locale pref for those
23:03 mtompset syspref it! ;)
23:03 eythian yeah, but it's not a given (without testing) that they'll all behave the same for a fairly undocument feature we're using.
23:03 eythian (well, maybe it's documented, I'm not sure.
23:03 eythian )
23:03 mtompset so, dcook, I was hoping someone would have a patch for that already. :)
23:03 dcook mtompset: I want to change the facets to use Zebra's facetting at some point
23:03 dcook But that wouldn't help you either
23:04 dcook It also wouldn't be customizable so that's a bit of a downside :p
23:04 rangi last patch added
23:04 mtompset That would be good, if your facet building could take into account excluding things hidden by OPACSuppression and OPACHiddenItems.
23:04 * dcook takes a break from #koha to test rangi's patches
23:04 cait dcook: that would be awesome - using zebra for facets
23:05 cait dcook: let me know when you are done
23:05 dcook rangi: Quick question...is it all right if I just stack these on top of each other for signing off?
23:05 mtompset Have you seen the horrific code that builds the facets, dcook? Please, if you understand zebra facets even in an elementary fashion, fix it. The code gives nigthtmares.
23:05 dcook cait: Alas, it's not high on the priority list at the mometn :/
23:05 rangi yeah thats fine
23:05 rangi they should apply in any order
23:05 dcook mtompset: I sure have. It is horrifying.
23:05 dcook Cool. Thanks, rangi.
23:06 rangi i made them independent of each other
23:06 cait dcook: :(
23:12 dcook rangi: Done :)
23:13 dcook mtompset: Yeah, I have some notes that I left for myself last time I got zebra facets working.
23:13 rangi yay thank you :)
23:13 dcook np :)
23:13 dcook Actually, I should post those up..
23:14 wizzyrea cait - it has to be .com for the https
23:14 cait why?
23:14 wizzyrea afaict, the other domains don't provide https for covers.
23:15 cait hm i see
23:15 cait what is a bit strange - i have only activated https for the opac
23:15 rangi right, now it must be lunch time
23:16 cait but it also gets the intranet covers from https now
23:19 cait wizzyrea: hm makes sense
23:19 cait i guess getting th eintranet ones from https doesn't hurt... but i wonder if the using_https is working correctly?
23:21 cait wizzyrea: hm not sure if that works
23:21 cait my detail page is:
23:21 cait https://localhost/cgi-bin/koha[…]l?biblionumber=51
23:21 cait but the URL from the img is: http://images.amazon.com/image[…]8.01.MZZZZZZZ.jpg
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23:52 cait gmcharlt: 11322 passed QA
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23:58 dcook I've added a short instructional guide for using Zebra facets on bug 11232
23:58 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11232 new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Retrieve facets from Zebra
23:58 dcook I've also added a thought on how we could even have user configurable facets using that model
23:59 dcook If dcook had that 20%, he would probably use it for that

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