Time  Nick         Message
01:30 rangi        @later tell magnuse catmandu is totally awesome, and so very very useful
01:30 huginn       rangi: The operation succeeded.
01:31 dcook        rangi: Why might that be?
01:32 rangi        http://librecat.org/catmandu/2013/06/21/catmandu-cheat-sheet.html
01:32 rangi        you might want to start all your OAI work again hehe
01:32 rangi        (its all perl too)
01:32 rangi        http://search.cpan.org/dist/Catmandu/lib/Catmandu.pm
01:33 dcook        Hehe. Yeah, I remember looking at it a bit a while ago.
01:33 dcook        I wasn't too fussed over the OAI stuff, but maybe I should take another look.
01:33 rangi        im mostly interested in this
01:33 rangi        $ catmandu import MARC to ElasticSearch --index_name mydb --bag data < records.mrc
01:34 jcamins      Yeah, catmandu is _really_ cool.
01:34 dcook        Yeah, that's one that perked me up right away just now
01:34 rangi        ill tell if it works in about 2 hours :)
01:34 dcook        rangi++
01:35 dcook        As for the OAI, the easy part is getting the response. It's figuring out how to do the local importing/overwriting/deleting that is the tough part :p
01:35 dcook        Actually, that's next on the list after doing some custom label stuff...
01:35 rangi        yeah
01:36 dcook        Catmandu does seem like it would be a handy addition to Koha though...
01:36 rangi        yup
01:37 jcamins      Unfortunately, Catmandu doesn't fix the biggest problem with working with library data.
01:38 * jcamins    waits patiently for the straight line.
01:38 rangi        heh
01:39 jcamins      (quote 123, for anyone who didn't know where I was going with that)
01:39 dcook        hehe
03:15 Azlan        Hello everyone :)
03:33 Azlan        hmm
03:51 wizzyrea     quiet today.
03:56 eythian      monday is always quiet
03:58 mtompset     Greetings, #koha.
04:00 mtompset     Quick question. Does opacuserjs expect the opening and closing script tags?
04:01 wizzyrea     no
04:02 mtompset     And that solves that problem.
04:03 mtompset     If you include the script tags, the tabs bust on the opacdetails page because the script tags get nested.
04:03 mtompset     under bootstrap.
05:50 mtompset     Have a great day, #koha.
07:43 rangi        how to write an email guaranteeing i will not work on the things you raise, illustrated perfectly
07:44 rangi        write everything as a demand
07:50 cait         yeah, i can see your answer
07:50 cait         wonder wyh I didn#t get the first email yet
07:50 cait         might be stuck
07:50 cait         for most of those things i filed bugs
07:50 cait         like the javascript concatenation being aproblem
07:50 cait         and the help files being separately
07:51 rangi        yep, if you pay me you get to demand, if you want me to work for free, id appreciate a please
07:53 rangi        however i will happily test and sign off any work that someone does on it
07:54 cait         most are easy to fix
07:54 cait         you just have to do it
07:54 cait         like the consistency problems
07:54 cait         the javascript concatenation is a bit harder
07:55 cait         imight provide bug numbers to his email a little later... gives him a good start;)
07:56 marcelr      hi #koha
07:56 marcelr      hi alex_a
07:56 cait         hi marcelr
07:56 marcelr      and cait
07:56 alex_a       hello marcelr
07:56 cait         hi alex_a:)
07:56 sophie_m     hello #koha
07:56 marcelr      hi sophie_m
08:04 rangi        marcelr: your colleague presented very well at NDF lots of positive feedback
08:04 marcelr      hi rangi: good to hear
08:04 cait         possible there was someone at swib too?
08:04 marcelr      ?
08:05 cait         i thought i had seen a lot of positive things on twitter that was not ndf :)
08:06 cait         hm, must be mistaken then
08:07 cait         i thought some german twitter people were talking about rijksmuseumtoo
08:07 marcelr      not sure, could be :)
08:08 alex_a       bonjour cait
08:09 cait         hm not at swib it seems - but there sure were some positive comments in my timeline
08:23 reiveune     hello
08:28 Azlan        CSS Edit of Bootstrap Koha 3.1400000 - http://library.pmc.edu.my - Feedback is appreciated.
08:29 gaetan_B     hello
08:37 rangi        looks good
08:39 Azlan        Thanks. Can test the responsive on mobile?
08:41 rangi        works on the phone, except the menus overlap the middle block a bit
08:42 Azlan        Need to adjust the padding later. Thanks for testing
08:44 Azlan        Done. Should fix that.
08:53 cait         looks nice :)
08:55 Azlan        Thank you :)
09:20 ashimema     cait: Just caught up with those mediawiki questions.. did you guys come to a conclusion?  Templates are the way to go, and there's nothing stopping us 'borrowing' templates from other wiki's out there as a basis to write our own.
09:31 cait         ashimema: no conclusion i think
09:31 cait         i am really a noob with mediawiki, so not sure what's possible
09:31 cait         i always end up editing the template instead the page...
09:31 cait         :)
09:38 ashimema     haha.. that probably means the template isn't good enough ;)
09:38 ashimema     what were they watning to do?
09:38 ashimema     I didn't get through the whole history of the conversation
09:39 cait         they were talking about repeating parts in the installation instructions
09:39 cait         like cloning the gitrepository
09:39 cait         not sure it's worth templating or doable
09:39 cait         but generally the wiki could use some tidy up i guess
09:59 ashimema     mmm.. you can include any page in the same way as you can a template.. you just need to add : at the beggining of the page name to prevent it just being a strange link.. {{:pagename}}
09:59 cait         interesitng
09:59 ashimema     It is how I do allot of our internal wiki stuff.. and something I was thinking of working on on community when I get a moment.
09:59 cait         dokuwiki can do something ismilar with the include plugin
10:11 ashimema     There's allot I'de like to do with the wiki, including upgrading the back end mediawiki version.. though it's running on postgres which is not the recommendation these days and messes up a number of extensions and make upgrade harder.. so I'm a bit at a lose as to what our next move is.
10:13 ashimema     Tidying on the front and templating out things is a good start.. but I'd like to see a few extensions removed as part of clean up fairly early in that procedure to prevent people using legacy features for too long.
10:14 cait         hm that makes sense to me
10:15 cait         what is it recommend to run on?
10:21 ashimema     mysql
10:22 cait         ah
10:22 cait         hm
10:22 cait         i think equinox is hosting it
10:22 wahanui      i already had it that way, cait.
10:22 cait         and magnuse/thd take care of it - so maybe wewould have to talk to them about any changes
10:22 ashimema     It was originally designed to be mysql backed.. and although mediawiki itself runs ok atop postgres, many of the extensions do not.
10:23 ashimema     yeah, equ
10:23 ashimema     inox host it..
10:23 ashimema     I spoke to galen about it.. it's a longer term commitment than I can really make at the moment.
10:23 ashimema     to continue supporting it once a bunch of changes have been made..
10:24 ashimema     cat pressed return half way throuhg a wrod there.. thought it looked strange
10:24 ashimema     ;)
10:24 cait         not sure i understand that last sentence
10:26 ashimema     I came up with a plan to tidy up the wiki.. and discussed it with galen.. The only problem wit the plan, is as galen pointed out.. it really needs someone to both impliment the cleanup, and then commit to maintaining it for a resonable amount of time so it doesn't just get out of hand again.. needs to get people 'trained' to keep it clean.
10:27 ashimema     but being a wiki.. anyone can go in a start the cleaning process off.. ;0
10:36 cait         i am definitely one who had to be trained in the ways of mediawiki :)
10:36 cait         i mess it up too often myself
10:37 cait         but i guess that's the current problem too
10:37 cait         we don't have someone dedicated to actively maintain it
10:37 cait         because we all lack time not motivation
10:39 ashimema     very true.. time is always an issue.
10:45 ashimema     right.. gotta nip out to take the cat to the vets.. happy to continue this convo when I get back
10:47 cait         ... if the cats will let him... :)
11:38 ashimema     haha.. thankfully caspa hasn't learnt to escape on vet day yet.. he's only 14 weeks old ;)
11:41 cait         ashimema: you have a kitten?
11:42 cait         can i come and visit? :)
11:42 cait         one day i might live in an apartment big enough... :)
11:42 ashimema     You'de be very welcome to come visit cait..
11:43 ashimema     I've thrown every penny and some into this place..  won't be moving on for a very very long time
11:43 cait         aw
11:43 cait         at least you have enough room for a cat :)
11:44 ashimema     I've got the rooms, but currently me and caspa pretty much live in only one as I can't yet afford to buy any more furniture.. ;)
11:44 ashimema     But yeah.. if you ever need somewhere to stay near London (about 25 mins train to centre) then your more than welcome
11:45 cait         :)
11:46 cait         hi petter :)
11:46 petter       Hi!
11:46 cait         how are you doing?
11:47 petter       I'm good, just back from a 3 week holiday in Japan
11:47 cait         oh wow
11:47 cait         that sounds nice
11:47 petter       it was
11:47 petter       & how are you?
11:48 cait         on vacation for 2 weeks starting today - but not going as far as japan
11:48 cait         just visiting some friends and family
11:49 cait         plus christmas shopping
11:50 petter       sounds good
11:52 cait         well and apparently i ended up on #koha anyeay... so i should find a bug to look at :)
11:58 petter       yea, there are plenty to  choose from:)
11:58 cait         yeah... doesn't make it easier :)
12:36 tcohen       hi #koha, back online
12:37 cait         hi tcohen :)
12:37 cait         congratulations again!
12:37 cait         how was the wedding?
12:37 tcohen       awesome party
12:37 cait         :)
12:56 cait         hi matts :)
12:56 matts        hi !
12:57 cait         :)
13:09 francharb    Good morning #koha
13:09 cait         good morning francharb
13:29 tcohen       jcamins: MARC-JSON?
13:30 jcamins      tcohen: MARC-in-JSON.
13:30 jcamins      Welcome back!
13:30 wahanui      cait abducted me.
13:30 jcamins      And congratulations!
13:31 tcohen       thanks Jared, and thanks :-D
13:32 cait         all those married people here... :)
15:01 druthb       o/
15:08 francharb    druthb, \o
15:53 jenkins_koha Starting build #1531 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:53 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11059: (follow-up) restore time in staged dates in addorderiso2709.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cfa0dc1aedf3a280f98b9a1728853a6041f59af5> / Bug 11059: fix date sorting of import batches in basket add form <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=097a92b3188d62e9797d18313715c35d9dc186b4>
16:03 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 2693: add ability to filter by reviewer name on tag review page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d536ed92fa6488a37a5e6325acb2b9b12f89ddaf>
16:04 jenkins_koha Starting build #245 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:23 reiveune     bye
16:23 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7791: (follow-up) adjust wording of basket deletion confirmation dialog <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=15b86a38edd26eb03fb6d2d7b1b28f47df19370e> / Bug 7791: (follow-up) add warning after deletion if some records were not deleted <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=de2bfb6799f718a75eb338490b1cee8f8145b6a8> / Bug 7791: (follow-up) tidy up some cruft in the mai
16:54 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #245: SUCCESS in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/245/
16:54 jenkins_koha * Lyon3 Team: Bug 11059: fix date sorting of import batches in basket add form
16:54 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11059: (follow-up) restore time in staged dates in addorderiso2709.tt
16:54 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 2693: add ability to filter by reviewer name on tag review page
16:54 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11059 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Not possible to sort staged dates in metric format
16:54 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2693 enhancement, P3, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Tagging: Add filter by name
16:55 jenkins_koha Starting build #246 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:44 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #246: SUCCESS in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/246/
17:44 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 7791: add ability to delete records when deleting a basket
17:44 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 7791: (follow-up) tidy up some cruft in the main patch
17:44 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 7791: (follow-up) add warning after deletion if some records were not deleted
17:44 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7791: (follow-up) adjust wording of basket deletion confirmation dialog
17:44 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7791 normal, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , Deleting basket should not delete all existing orders without warning
17:51 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1531: SUCCESS in 2 hr 0 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1531/
17:51 jenkins_koha * Lyon3 Team: Bug 11059: fix date sorting of import batches in basket add form
17:51 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11059: (follow-up) restore time in staged dates in addorderiso2709.tt
17:51 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11059 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Not possible to sort staged dates in metric format
17:51 mtompset     Greetings, #koha.
17:52 mtompset     Is anyone here familiar with facets? Particularly, is turning off sections of the facet listing possible?
17:53 jenkins_koha Starting build #1532 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:17 jenkins_koha Starting build #135 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #130 10 days ago)
18:19 tcohen       bye #koha, see u tomorrow
18:45 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
18:45 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #135: FIXED in 30 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/135/
18:45 jenkins_koha * Ketan Kulkarni: Bug 10705: change 'shipment cost' to 'shipping cost'
18:45 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10705: follow-up - change one more instance of "shippment cost"
18:45 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 6201: (follow-up) update unit tests
18:45 jenkins_koha * Blou: Bug 6201: Add fields 1xx to marc2bibtex (for MARC21 and NORMARC)
18:45 jenkins_koha * Janusz Kaczmarek: Bug 10335: display translated forms of headings in UNIMARC authorities correctly
18:45 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10705 trivial, P5 - low, ---, ketan, Pushed to Stable , Shipment cost should be 'shipping'
18:45 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6201 normal, P5 - low, ---, eric.begin, Pushed to Stable , BibTeX export does not incude MARC21 main entry
18:45 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10335 minor, P5 - low, ---, januszop, Pushed to Stable , UNIMARC authorities search doesn't display properly information on parallel form
18:59 mtompset     Oh right. Serves me right for installing a new version of VirtualBox.
18:59 mtompset     Greetings, cait.
18:59 cait         hi mtompset
18:59 cait         ashimema was around earlier today - he said there is a syntax to include one page in the other
19:00 cait         you might want to check the logs for the syntax
19:00 mtompset     Blip... More device drivers.
19:00 mtompset     That should be the last one.
19:01 mtompset     Wow... nice improvement on the VirtualBox GUI.
19:01 mtompset     Prettier. :)
19:17 mtompset     Ah ha! I found the two bugs caused the scenario that I don't want.
19:28 nengard      uploading KohaCon13 videos now! A few are there: https://archive.org/search.php?query=subject%3A%22kohacon13%22
19:28 nengard      more to come  - and I'll post to list when I'm done
19:28 cait         yay
19:28 cait         thx nengard
19:28 nengard      no prob
19:29 nengard      it's taking a while cause the uploaded only lets me do one at a time
19:35 francharb    nengard++
19:47 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1532: SUCCESS in 1 hr 55 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1532/
19:47 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 2693: add ability to filter by reviewer name on tag review page
19:47 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 7791: add ability to delete records when deleting a basket
19:47 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 7791: (follow-up) tidy up some cruft in the main patch
19:47 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2693 enhancement, P3, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Tagging: Add filter by name
19:47 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 7791: (follow-up) add warning after deletion if some records were not deleted
19:47 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7791: (follow-up) adjust wording of basket deletion confirmation dialog
19:47 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7791 normal, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , Deleting basket should not delete all existing orders without warning
19:55 gaetan_B     bye !
20:01 mtompset     Have a great day, #koha.
20:01 * mtompset   puts on his chauffeur hat.
20:58 eythian      hi
20:58 wahanui      hi, eythian
21:02 rambutan     hi eythian
21:02 eythian      hello
21:02 wahanui      what's up, eythian
21:03 cait         hi eythian
21:03 rambutan     hi cait, wahanui
21:03 wahanui      rambutan: what?
21:03 cait         hi rambutan
21:13 * ebegin     presents our team : http://www.inlibro.com/pubdoc/images/equipe_CMD_2013.jpg
21:14 cait         very cool :)
21:14 cait         who is who?
21:14 eythian      oh, hello cait
21:14 wahanui      hello cait are you here?
21:14 cait         i have recognized francharb :)
21:14 ebegin       francharb, ebegin, simith, blou and alexandre
21:14 francharb    :)
21:15 eythian      I recognise some of those people :)
21:15 ebegin       Simith and Alexandre are not IRC-ers (yet)
21:16 francharb    We need to push them a little bit!
21:16 wizzyrea     tell them we have cookies
21:16 francharb    Hum good point!
21:17 cait         push blou again too :P
21:17 cait         lots of cookies
21:17 druthb       so many cookies, we give 'em to the bots, too.
21:17 druthb       wahanui:  botsnack cookie
21:17 wahanui      :)
21:17 francharb    ahah
21:18 rambutan     and skittles
21:18 wahanui      skittles are *not* food.  They are ammunition.
21:18 druthb       wahanui++
21:18 druthb       :P
21:18 rambutan     bad timing for that bit
21:20 * blou       just got whip'd
21:20 blou         who, what?
21:22 cait         blou: just checking you are still there :)
21:23 * blou       is slapped again
21:23 francharb    hehe
21:23 blou         ouch...  Hello Cait!
21:23 cait         lol
21:23 cait         hello blou
21:23 cait         and i saidpush... not whip or slap
21:24 cait         you have mean coworkers :)
21:24 blou         Lost in translation
21:24 blou         he's French
21:24 cait         lol
21:24 francharb    that says everything
21:25 cait         yep
22:17 mameha       Hello.  I am new to Koha and planning to evaluate it. But we need a Japanese interface for Koha, at least for the core functions/labels.  Looking on http://translate.koha-community.org/ja/ it seems the 'terminology' is fully translated to JP but very little of the specific translations for each version.  Does this mean the interface will all be in Japanese or not at all?
22:17 rangi        it will be if you translate it
22:18 rangi        http://translate.koha-community.org is open for anyone to do translations
22:18 cait         mameha:terminology is not used for the interface
22:21 mameha       too bad, thanks.
22:21 rangi        *sigh*
22:21 joels68      Hi cait. Wie geht's heute?
22:22 cait         gut, danke
22:22 cait         und dir
22:22 cait         ?
22:22 wizzyrea     sigh indeed.
22:22 * cait       sighs too
22:23 joels68      Gut fur Montag.
22:24 cjh          wow.
22:24 joels68      Sounds like the NZ folk need some Team America: World Police to perk them up.
22:24 cjh          heh, fantastic.
22:25 joels68      Fuck yeah!!
22:25 eythian      http://www.police.govt.nz/news/updates/31492 <-- we don't need that, we have Orca
22:25 joels68      Pardon my language...
22:25 dcook        lol
22:25 dcook        Good morning to you too, joels68 ;)
22:25 joels68      Hello dcook.
22:26 * dcook      might have to look back at the logs
22:27 * joels68    walks across the bride of sighs...
22:27 dcook        Ahh
22:28 joels68      Not that I'm not excited to have you join the chat, dcook
22:28 francharb    bye all
22:28 dcook        ta francharb
22:28 francharb    see you tomorrow
22:28 dcook        hehe. No worries, joels68. I'll add my sigh.
22:28 francharb    :)
22:29 cait         hi dcook
22:29 dcook        hey ya cait :)
22:30 * joels68    walks across the BRIDGE fo sichs, rather
22:30 joels68      sighs
22:30 joels68      dammit!! Fat fingers strike again.
22:31 gmcharlt     rule #666: attempts to correct typos will inevitably have typos
22:32 dcook        hehe
22:32 jcamins      joels68: yeah, that'd be kind of cruel. "Not only is your new last name 'sighs,' you're going to get walked across by random people.
22:32 eythian      I think you'll find that it's only rule 66.
22:32 joels68      Get thee behind me, Satan!
22:34 joels68      Well, I didn't want everyone to think I walked across brides.
22:34 eythian      It's probably a tradition, somewhere.
22:35 joels68      True.
22:36 * joels68    thinking on how to elevate the conversion he's drug down
22:36 joels68      conversation he's drug down...
22:37 dcook        dragged?
22:37 eythian      yeah, you can drug something up, but not down.
22:37 joels68      Probably.  I give up on trying to correct myself
22:37 dcook        I think drug might be American.
22:38 dcook        Not that I want to talk about grammar O_O
22:38 * dcook      scuttles off to code something.
22:38 eythian      I think it's just an incorrect orthography :)
22:38 * dcook      refuses eythian's bait :p
22:39 jcamins      In New York you can't drug anythign.
22:39 jcamins      *anything
22:39 jcamins      Well, unless you're a doctor.
22:39 eythian      Not with that attitude, anyway.
22:40 cait         wizzyrea: my opac runs now with https... sounds familiar?
22:40 wizzyrea     yep
22:40 wizzyrea     \o/
22:40 dcook        wizzyrea: Did you get that patch through that makes Amazon use https?
22:41 cait         so... someone around to do a sign off?
22:41 wizzyrea     yea, it's signed off, through qa
22:41 wizzyrea     I think just waiting on RM
22:41 dcook        \o/
22:41 dcook        Awesomesauce
22:41 dcook        cait: Possibly. I should be doing something else, so it depends on the difficulty of the patch.
22:41 cait         wizzyrea: not through qa yte
22:41 cait         butworking on it
22:42 dcook        wizzyrea++
22:42 dcook        cait++
22:42 wizzyrea     ah, yea, I thought kyle was the qa but he just signed off on it.
22:42 rangi        bug 11322 has 1 patch waiting, 2 more patches to go, but the first one can be tested and signed off
22:42 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11322 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, ASSIGNED , Suggestion "notes" field should be sanitized or escaped
22:42 rangi        its super easy to test
22:43 dcook        Cool. Can do, rangi
22:44 * dcook      has been slacking too much on his testing lately
22:48 rangi        patch 2, for the opac side now up
22:48 dcook        Ah, I was just about to comment on that
22:49 rangi        and the third patch will be stopping the html getting in there in the first place (thats why need to test the first 2 first)
22:49 dcook        rangi++
22:49 dcook        Let's see if I butcher bugzilla while trying to sign this off correctly...
22:50 mtompset     Greetings, #koha.
22:50 dcook        hey mtompset
22:50 wahanui      i heard mtompset was catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry.
22:50 mtompset     Hey, dcook! Can I blame you for some of my problems?
22:51 dcook        You can probably blame me, but I'll only feel bad if I'm actually responsible for them.
22:51 mtompset     (bug 10078 leaks shelving information on items hidden by OpacHiddenItems)
22:51 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10078 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , show location facet for all
22:52 dcook        Intriguing.
22:52 dcook        I assume that you've already dealt with the other facets?
22:53 mtompset     We had, by shifting hidden items to shelving locations. ;)
22:54 dcook        O_o
22:54 mtompset     Then 3.14.x vs. 3.12.x pulled in your patch which shows the locations.
22:54 dcook        I don't actually understand what you're saying there.
22:54 mtompset     Okay... You have a branch in a building.
22:54 dcook        What I mean is...does the itemtype, branch, etc show up for the hidden items
22:54 mtompset     In that building there are multiple shelving locations.
22:55 mtompset     OpacHiddenItems does not show them in the results.
22:55 mtompset     However, facets is a pain in the bleep.
22:56 dcook        So, all the item-level information that shows up in the facets shows up for OpacHiddenItems?
22:56 * dcook      would imagine this to be the case
22:56 mtompset     No, you can't get to the record.
22:56 mtompset     It doesn't display.
22:56 mtompset     (which is good)
22:57 dcook        That's not what I'm saying, but I can infer what you're getting at.
22:57 wizzyrea     but you could ascertain it's existence, which I suppose is bad (for some value of bad)
22:57 mtompset     Yes.
22:57 mtompset     That's the problem.
22:57 dcook        You don't mind other facets showing up because they're fairly non-descript, while shelving locations tend to be a bit more indicative of those particular items?
22:57 mtompset     Exactly.
22:57 dcook        Hmm, that is a tough one.
22:57 mtompset     [off] SE could be reasoned to mean Scripture Engagement.
22:58 mtompset     So you have a shelving location with things which would be guessed at as bad.
22:58 mtompset     A library name isn't really the problem.
22:58 mtompset     Because that isn't going to have anything problematic in it.
22:58 dcook        How about author?
22:58 wahanui      hmmm... author is often empty when there is no 100
22:59 mtompset     Koha does have marc tag hiding, but I haven't fully researched it.
22:59 dcook        Facets certainly are a pain or rather...storing item data and bib data together is a pain.
22:59 dcook        (which probably has other benefits)
22:59 cait         i don#t think storing separately would help things much
23:00 dcook        cait: You're probably right.
23:00 cait         and other indexes can do it with flat records... we just have to figure out a better way of doing it
23:00 mtompset     I agree with cait that it wouldn't help in that regard.
23:00 dcook        mtompset: I would suggest removing it with jquery or putting a system preference around it if you're worried about people turning off their JS
23:00 mtompset     Actually, I think there is a bug number somewhere... let me hunt for it again...
23:00 dcook        There was some talk about how people might not want it to appear and that jquery or css was going to be the way to hide it
23:01 cait         hm things i don#t want to have seen
23:01 cait         .com being hardcoded for the covers... *sigh*
23:02 mtompset     There it is bug 10891
23:02 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10891 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Make facets customisable
23:02 eythian      can we trust that other domains have things like covers?
23:02 cait         yes
23:02 cait         for amazon we can
23:02 cait         sorry, .. the amazon url is hardcoded to com
23:02 cait         and we have a locale pref for those
23:03 mtompset     syspref it! ;)
23:03 eythian      yeah, but it's not a given (without testing) that they'll all behave the same for a fairly undocument feature we're using.
23:03 eythian      (well, maybe it's documented, I'm not sure.
23:03 eythian      )
23:03 mtompset     so, dcook, I was hoping someone would have a patch for that already. :)
23:03 dcook        mtompset: I want to change the facets to use Zebra's facetting at some point
23:03 dcook        But that wouldn't help you either
23:04 dcook        It also wouldn't be customizable so that's a bit of a downside :p
23:04 rangi        last patch added
23:04 mtompset     That would be good, if your facet building could take into account excluding things hidden by OPACSuppression and OPACHiddenItems.
23:04 * dcook      takes a break from #koha to test rangi's patches
23:04 cait         dcook: that would be awesome - using zebra for facets
23:05 cait         dcook: let me know when you are done
23:05 dcook        rangi: Quick question...is it all right if I just stack these on top of each other for signing off?
23:05 mtompset     Have you seen the horrific code that builds the facets, dcook? Please, if you understand zebra facets even in an elementary fashion, fix it. The code gives nigthtmares.
23:05 dcook        cait: Alas, it's not high on the priority list at the mometn :/
23:05 rangi        yeah thats fine
23:05 rangi        they should apply in any order
23:05 dcook        mtompset: I sure have. It is horrifying.
23:05 dcook        Cool. Thanks, rangi.
23:06 rangi        i made them independent of each other
23:06 cait         dcook: :(
23:12 dcook        rangi: Done :)
23:13 dcook        mtompset: Yeah, I have some notes that I left for myself last time I got zebra facets working.
23:13 rangi        yay thank you :)
23:13 dcook        np :)
23:13 dcook        Actually, I should post those up..
23:14 wizzyrea     cait - it has to be .com for the https
23:14 cait         why?
23:14 wizzyrea     afaict, the other domains don't provide https for covers.
23:15 cait         hm i see
23:15 cait         what is a bit strange - i have only activated https for the opac
23:15 rangi        right, now it must be lunch time
23:16 cait         but it also gets the intranet covers from https now
23:19 cait         wizzyrea: hm makes sense
23:19 cait         i guess getting th eintranet ones from https doesn't hurt... but i wonder if the using_https is working correctly?
23:21 cait         wizzyrea: hm not sure if that works
23:21 cait         my detail page is:
23:21 cait         https://localhost/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=51
23:21 cait         but the URL from the img is: http://images.amazon.com/images/P/3518010468.01.MZZZZZZZ.jpg
23:52 cait         gmcharlt: 11322 passed QA
23:58 dcook        I've added a short instructional guide for using Zebra facets on bug 11232
23:58 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11232 new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Retrieve facets from Zebra
23:58 dcook        I've also added a thought on how we could even have user configurable facets using that model
23:59 dcook        If dcook had that 20%, he would probably use it for that