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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1479: SUCCESS in 1 hr 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1479/ |
| 00:08 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Add missing patron lists help |
| 00:08 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Authorities Help |
| 00:08 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update links in Catalog help |
| 00:08 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update main help files |
| 00:08 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10671 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , Koha 3.14 Help Files Update |
| 00:08 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Lists Help |
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jenkins_koha |
* Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Add missing authority merge help |
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jenkins_koha |
* Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update links in label help |
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jenkins_koha |
* Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update patron card creator help |
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jenkins_koha |
* Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update tag tool help |
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jenkins_koha |
* Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update plugins help |
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jenkins_koha |
* Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update suggestion help |
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jenkins_koha |
* Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Offline Circ Help |
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jenkins_koha |
* Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Remove Unused Help File |
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jenkins_koha |
* Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Reviews Help |
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jenkins_koha |
* Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update holds help |
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jenkins_koha |
* Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Reports Help |
| 00:08 |
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admindude |
Hi, all |
| 00:09 |
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admindude |
just upgraded from 3.0 to 3.26 via git. My bibliographies are missing from search but are there when I export via csv |
| 00:13 |
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rangi |
3.2.6 you mean? |
| 00:13 |
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rangi |
ok then |
| 00:14 |
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wizzyrea |
eep |
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| 01:37 |
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rambutan |
off topic, sorry, but couldn't resist the graphic. http://x2t.com/2/bug |
| 01:40 |
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wizzyrea |
ewww |
| 01:51 |
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| 03:00 |
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mtompset |
Is there a reason the ids don't align between bootstrap and prog? |
| 03:00 |
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mtj |
wow!, have people seen this Koha theme… -> http://library.rijksmuseum.nl |
| 03:00 |
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mtj |
...my favourite Koha ever :) |
| 03:00 |
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mtj |
heya mtompset |
| 03:00 |
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wahanui |
rumour has it mtompset is catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry |
| 03:01 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, mtj. :) |
| 03:02 |
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mtj |
mtompset, i thinks they should align always… prolly a little bug there |
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| 03:03 |
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eythian |
why would they need to line up? |
| 03:04 |
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eythian |
there's no real reason they would have to, and different designs can mean it doesn't make sense. |
| 03:04 |
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jcamins |
They should not align. |
| 03:04 |
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jcamins |
If they were the same, that would be bad. |
| 03:04 |
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* jcamins |
leaves. |
| 03:09 |
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mtj |
hmm, really? i kinda assumed that element ids might be crucial to functionality in koha |
| 03:09 |
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* jcamins |
sticks his head back in. |
| 03:10 |
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eythian |
they're only useful for CSS and JS, and as they're both particular to the theme, the koha code shouldn't care. |
| 03:10 |
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eythian |
with the exception of opacuser* type stuff |
| 03:10 |
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jcamins |
mtj: think about it. If the IDs were the same, existing customizations would just break the OPAC. |
| 03:10 |
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eythian |
but that should be made to fit your theme anyway. |
| 03:10 |
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jcamins |
Anything that isn't organized the same way really shouldn't be named the same way. |
| 03:11 |
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mtj |
ps: i'm very happy to be corrected here :p |
| 03:11 |
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jcamins |
Proof of that can be seen in the #login id that was given to two entirely different controls at one point. |
| 03:12 |
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jcamins |
If you try out switching themes and keeping the same ID after rearranging, you'll see what I mean. |
| 03:17 |
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mtj |
ok, thanks for the info guys - i'll take a look, and prove this to myself :) |
| 03:17 |
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wizzyrea |
theoretically, you should pick one at install time, and theme on top of that. |
| 03:17 |
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wizzyrea |
the only problem comes when you change |
| 03:18 |
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wizzyrea |
and we're talking about nuking the other two anyway. |
| 03:18 |
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eythian |
I prefer the idea of making one default and transitioning to that. If you make it too easy for people to pick the wrong one, you'll have to delay deprecating it. |
| 03:18 |
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wizzyrea |
^^^ so much this |
| 03:21 |
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wizzyrea |
nuking perhaps was a strong word. |
| 03:21 |
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wizzyrea |
gently wishing them well and highly suggesting that people not use them. |
| 03:21 |
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eythian |
actually, I meant removing rather than deprecating. |
| 03:22 |
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mtompset |
well, if they aren't in the list, you kind of have to do magic in MySQL and in the appropriate directories to get them back. |
| 03:22 |
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wizzyrea |
kek. |
| 03:22 |
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eythian |
Just the directories, mysql doesn't care. |
| 03:22 |
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mtompset |
oh right... the choices are in the pref file. |
| 03:22 |
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wizzyrea |
you shouldn't be using that theme, you should be customizing on top of the default theme. |
| 03:23 |
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wizzyrea |
yes, transition, I get that. |
| 03:23 |
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eythian |
no, I think that the options are worked out by looking at the directories. Not 100% sure though. |
| 03:23 |
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eythian |
they are for languages. |
| 03:23 |
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wizzyrea |
^^ pretty sure this is true |
| 03:23 |
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wizzyrea |
plonking another theme in there gives the option |
| 03:24 |
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mtompset |
anyways... looks like I'll be wrestling CSS to get the color-scheme back to the browns we are looking for. |
| 03:24 |
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wizzyrea |
and it's good if your existing customisations break the opac, that means you know there are things to fix. |
| 03:24 |
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eythian |
you've got two full releases to do it in, anyway :) |
| 03:24 |
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wizzyrea |
^^^ |
| 03:25 |
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mtompset |
actually, less, because I have to insert a custom patch. |
| 03:26 |
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mtompset |
but yes, technically two. |
| 03:26 |
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* eythian |
uploads new packages |
| 03:26 |
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wizzyrea |
theming is best done with css included with opaccolor |
| 03:27 |
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wizzyrea |
and not touching the default styles |
| 03:27 |
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mtompset |
.actions a.hold { |
| 03:27 |
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mtompset |
background-image: url("../images/sprite.png"); |
| 03:27 |
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wizzyrea |
sure that could go in opaccolor |
| 03:27 |
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* eythian |
has uploaded new packages |
| 03:27 |
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wizzyrea |
whee! |
| 03:27 |
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eythian |
probably should do a master build too |
| 03:27 |
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mtompset |
Can someone confirm if that sprite.png file still exists? |
| 03:27 |
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mtompset |
This is from bootstrap, as far as I can tell. |
| 03:27 |
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eythian |
$ find -name sprite.png |
| 03:27 |
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eythian |
./koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/yui/sprite.png |
| 03:27 |
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eythian |
./koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/ccsr/images/sprite.png |
| 03:27 |
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eythian |
./koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/images/sprite.png |
| 03:28 |
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eythian |
that's 3.12.06 |
| 03:29 |
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mtompset |
So, why is ../images/sprite.png failing to load in firebug? |
| 03:29 |
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mtompset |
Oh... now it loads. |
| 03:29 |
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mtompset |
GRRR... |
| 03:40 |
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Joels68 |
Hello. Anyone here? |
| 03:43 |
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eythian |
There are a few people here. |
| 03:43 |
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eythian |
Hello. |
| 03:46 |
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Joels68 |
I'm an IRC newbie and just checking in to say hello. I'm from the US. Just attended KohaCon |
| 03:52 |
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Joels68 |
I'm Joel from the Plum Creek Library System In Minnesota, current Koha user. |
| 03:52 |
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wizzyrea |
cool hi joel :) |
| 03:52 |
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* mtj |
waves to joel and wiz |
| 03:53 |
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Joels68 |
Hello. I met your coworkers from NEKLS at the con. |
| 03:53 |
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wizzyrea |
sup mtj :) |
| 03:53 |
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wizzyrea |
ah yea, good folks those. |
| 03:53 |
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wizzyrea |
my old coworkers ;) and one of my new ones too probably |
| 03:54 |
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mtj |
me so jealous of the all the KohaCon attendees! |
| 03:54 |
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Joels68 |
I'm looking to become more active in the community. |
| 03:54 |
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Joels68 |
It was a great time. Met a lot of great Koha people. |
| 03:54 |
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mtj |
Joels68, how long has plum-creek been running koha? |
| 03:55 |
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Joels68 |
Since March 2012. |
| 03:55 |
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mtj |
ok ok :) |
| 03:56 |
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Joels68 |
Love the system and it keeps getting better every day. |
| 03:59 |
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Joels68 |
mtj from Australia? |
| 04:00 |
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Joels68 |
I recognize wiz but haven't met you yet. |
| 04:01 |
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mtj |
close-ish… wgtn, nz |
| 04:01 |
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Joels68 |
OK. |
| 04:03 |
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mtj |
sorry, wellington - new zealand :) |
| 04:04 |
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Joels68 |
S'OK. We use wgtn here for Worthington, MN USA, where I'm at. |
| 04:04 |
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Joels68 |
I kinda guessed it was wellington. |
| 04:07 |
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mtj |
slightly off-topic but…. does reno do crazy vegas style dinner buffets? |
| 04:07 |
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mtj |
i wanna know what people were eating at kohacon13 :p |
| 04:07 |
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Joels68 |
Question about IRC. Right now I'm using Firefox to connect but I have an IRC client that asks for passwords and such to connect. Are these needed? |
| 04:08 |
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mtj |
no, not needed - but an option |
| 04:08 |
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Joels68 |
Reno is toned down a bit from vegas. The hotel had a decent buffet but we took in some local fare too. |
| 04:08 |
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mtj |
you can register your 'nickname', with a password, on an irc server |
| 04:09 |
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mtj |
so, if you like ''joel68' - and want to spot someone from stealling it…. register your nick with a password |
| 04:10 |
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mtj |
(most people often cant be bothered, to do this step) |
| 04:11 |
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eythian |
@wunder nzwn |
| 04:11 |
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huginn |
eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (5:00 PM NZDT on October 29, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 04:11 |
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mtj |
Joels68, yeah, always important to try the local fare :) |
| 04:12 |
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Joels68 |
Pirates Pizza was popular. Enormous pizzas. |
| 04:13 |
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Joels68 |
Went there with Chris C, Martin, and Cait. |
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| 04:17 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, Oak. |
| 04:17 |
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Oak |
hello mtompset :) |
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* Oak |
waves |
| 04:17 |
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mtompset |
well, made some progress on styling under bootstrap. :) |
| 04:18 |
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mtompset |
Now, to go catch some sleep. |
| 04:18 |
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Oak |
ah sleep is good |
| 04:18 |
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Oak |
good night |
| 04:18 |
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wahanui |
If you feel like someone is looking through your window, it's OK, it's just me. |
| 04:18 |
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mtompset |
Have a great day, #koha Oak eythian wizzyrea Joels68 wahanui mtj. ;) |
| 04:18 |
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eythian |
later |
| 04:19 |
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Oak |
Mister Robin! |
| 04:19 |
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eythian |
hi Oak |
| 04:19 |
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Oak |
hello |
| 04:19 |
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eythian |
I was at the Oaks for lunch today, in fact. |
| 04:19 |
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Oak |
hm, amusing. |
| 04:20 |
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Oak |
:) |
| 04:21 |
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Joels68 |
Time for some sleep here too. Tuesday hasn't started yet. |
| 04:21 |
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Oak |
later dude |
| 04:21 |
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eythian |
tuesday is almost done here! |
| 04:21 |
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Oak |
started here |
| 04:22 |
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Joels68 |
Yes, you are in the future. Was it a good day? |
| 04:25 |
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Joels68 |
Nice chatting with all of you. Good night. |
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tm |
Hi there. |
| 04:49 |
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eythian |
hi |
| 04:49 |
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wahanui |
niihau, eythian |
| 04:50 |
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tm |
I've got a update problem. Why is it a book that has been catalogue doesn't show up in the search result? But if I generate a report it is there. |
| 04:53 |
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eythian |
tm: by default the search indicies are updated every 5 minutes, are you trying too fast? |
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| 04:55 |
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vinz3g |
hi, |
| 04:55 |
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tm |
Nope. waited for days and it is still the same. Is there any log I can check for index updating? |
| 04:55 |
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vinz3g |
as I can enable my koha to be a public Z39.50 server |
| 04:55 |
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vinz3g |
? |
| 04:55 |
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eythian |
tm: well, it should be run from cron. How do you have Koha installed, packages or some other method? |
| 04:56 |
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eythian |
vinz3g: you can I believe. I think you'll need to edit koha-conf.xml to do it, but I don't know the details. |
| 04:57 |
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vinz3g |
If I'm working on it, but really have not found much new and I'm really confused about what parameters edit |
| 04:58 |
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eythian |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]s_a_Z39.50_server <-- vinz3g, have you seen this? |
| 05:00 |
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vinz3g |
eythian: if and returns me the following: connecting errors = System (lower-layer) error: Connection refused |
| 05:01 |
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eythian |
vinz3g: I don't know sorry, it might be worth posting to the mailing list and including your configs (without passwords :) and log messages. |
| 05:01 |
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vinz3g |
ok, thanks |
| 05:16 |
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vinz3g |
hi, I need restart zebra |
| 05:16 |
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vinz3g |
thanks |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #356 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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dpk1 |
eythian: I think I have addressed all the issues raised so far. Please have another look. |
| 06:47 |
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* magnuse |
waves |
| 06:58 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #356: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/356/ |
| 06:58 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Translation updates for 3.8.19 |
| 06:58 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Hall: Release notes for 3.8.19 |
| 06:58 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Hall: Koha 3.8.19 release |
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reiveune |
hello |
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* magnuse |
waves again |
| 08:20 |
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clrh |
hello |
| 08:20 |
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magnuse |
bonjour clrh |
| 08:21 |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
| 08:21 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0°C (8:50 AM CET on October 29, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 28.80 in 975 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 17.0°C (9:00 AM CET on October 29, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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magnuse |
bonjour gaetan_B |
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kivilahtio |
Hi I have a git-related problem. I have a branch ItemFilter, where I have the following commits, bug_11129 -> bug_6385 -> bug_11157. Each commit has a tag named patch11129, patch6385, patch11157. I realized bug_6385 has a bug and needs to be modified. So i ran 'git reset --hard patch6385', modified code, ran 'git commit --amend', now I need to get back to previous HEAD by running 'git reset --hard patch11157'. Now I am at my original HEAD, but |
| 09:06 |
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kivilahtio |
the changes to bug_6385 are not present. Is there something wrong with my git-workflow? How do you solve these issues? |
| 09:07 |
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kivilahtio |
I guess this queestion gets asked a lot. |
| 09:13 |
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kivilahtio |
maybe using git rebase like this link suggests http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]-specified-commit |
| 09:14 |
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kivilahtio |
lol I cant I borke something |
| 09:14 |
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kivilahtio |
git is bad boy |
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| 09:20 |
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agnet |
hi all |
| 09:20 |
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agnet |
I am trying to install koha |
| 09:21 |
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agnet |
with packages as it was suggested to me yesterday |
| 09:21 |
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agnet |
and I am having some problems with this line |
| 09:21 |
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agnet |
wget -O- http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/gpg.asc | sudo apt-key add - |
| 09:21 |
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agnet |
the error is this |
| 09:21 |
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agnet |
--2013-10-29 10:19:50-- http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/gpg.asc Resolving debian.koha-community.org (debian.koha-community.org)... 67.220.127.145 Connecting to debian.koha-community.org (debian.koha-community.org)|67.220.127.145|:80... ERROR: This command can only be used by root. connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 51879 (51K) [text/plain] Saving to: `STDOUT' 0% [ ] 0 |
| 09:21 |
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agnet |
Cannot write to `-' (Broken pipe). |
| 09:22 |
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agnet |
can you help me |
| 09:22 |
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agnet |
? |
| 09:22 |
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ashimema |
is your user in the sudo group on your system? |
| 09:23 |
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agnet |
meaning |
| 09:23 |
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agnet |
?? |
| 09:23 |
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agnet |
how can I check |
| 09:23 |
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agnet |
how can I check |
| 09:24 |
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agnet |
? |
| 09:24 |
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ashimema |
no need to repeat yourself agnet ;) |
| 09:24 |
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agnet |
thats a mistake |
| 09:24 |
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agnet |
sorry |
| 09:24 |
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agnet |
new laptop |
| 09:24 |
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agnet |
:( |
| 09:25 |
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ashimema |
cat /etc/group |
| 09:25 |
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ashimema |
you user should be appended to the line starting with 'sudo' |
| 09:25 |
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agnet |
root:x:0: |
| 09:26 |
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ashimema |
somthig like 'sudo:x:27:koha' |
| 09:26 |
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ashimema |
my user is koha (in this case) |
| 09:26 |
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ashimema |
that's assuming you have sudo installed.. I think it's installed by defautl in ubuntu (are you still using ubuntu.. did you update it since yesrday?) |
| 09:28 |
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magnuse |
to me it looks like that command never gets as far as the sudo part... |
| 09:28 |
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agnet |
thanks for your help |
| 09:28 |
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agnet |
yes I have updated to 12.01 |
| 09:28 |
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agnet |
can't update it to 13 |
| 09:28 |
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ashimema |
12.04 you mean ;) |
| 09:28 |
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agnet |
yes sorry :) |
| 09:28 |
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ashimema |
12.04 is perfect.. that's the LTS version and is best supported by koha |
| 09:29 |
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agnet |
ok.. thanks |
| 09:29 |
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agnet |
that line now worked thanks for your help |
| 09:29 |
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ashimema |
great.. glad I could help :) |
| 09:29 |
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agnet |
:) |
| 09:30 |
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ashimema |
magnus: I'de have agreed with you, but I couldn't think of any reason wget would be locked down to root by default. |
| 09:30 |
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agnet |
When I ran sudo apt-get update |
| 09:30 |
|
agnet |
this message came up |
| 09:30 |
|
agnet |
W: Failed to fetch http://debian.koha-community.o[…]ary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. |
| 09:31 |
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agnet |
is this good |
| 09:31 |
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agnet |
can I continue on installing |
| 09:31 |
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ashimema |
that's a tad odd. |
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agnet |
?? |
| 09:31 |
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ashimema |
one second, just going to go through my notes.. it's a while since I installed on ubuntu |
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kivilahtio |
agnet: Are your apt-get sources.list directives ok for the Koha packages |
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agnet |
ashima: thanks |
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agnet |
kivilahtio: can you be more specific |
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kivilahtio |
agnet: /etc/apt/sources.list |
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kivilahtio |
agnet: somewhere in your Ubuntu installation instructions you need to define the Koha packages url |
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kivilahtio |
agnet: You should double check that |
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agnet |
etc apt sources list no such file or directory |
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kivilahtio |
agnet: does your apt-get work? If you type 'sudo apt-get install lynx' does it work? |
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agnet |
I am following step by step from this link |
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agnet |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ubuntu_-_packages |
| 09:34 |
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agnet |
yes that line works fine |
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kivilahtio |
agnet you hav a typo |
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agnet |
where |
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agnet |
? |
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kivilahtio |
agnet: did you copy paste this directive? |
| 09:34 |
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kivilahtio |
echo deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha.list |
| 09:35 |
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agnet |
yes |
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kivilahtio |
hmm |
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agnet |
that is what I copied |
| 09:35 |
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kivilahtio |
the url you posted says squeze, while this I posted from to link, says squeeze |
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kivilahtio |
I dont know how packages work but you could try with two ee's |
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agnet |
thanks worked |
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agnet |
:) |
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agnet |
for a small mistake |
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agnet |
haha |
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* magnuse |
waves to petter |
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petter |
hi all |
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agnet |
now when I come to the Intial Configuration Part |
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kivilahtio |
agnet: You need to slow down and take your time. When I started with linux I was just bashing around, then I was bashing my head to a wall. You need to read verrry carefully and understand what you are doing |
| 09:39 |
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agnet |
what do I need to enter the domain etc |
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agnet |
what should I do |
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kivilahtio |
agnet: Don't repeat my mistakes. Understand what you are doing, don't just settle for apt-get install, figure out what really happens. Otherwise you will have hard time all the time |
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agnet |
yes I know kivilahtio. I am not a linux person I am a Microsoft person |
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agnet |
and this is just for once |
| 09:40 |
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kivilahtio |
agnet: And the transition is a pain in the ass |
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agnet |
yea I know... I don't like it very much... Thankfully I will do this once |
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agnet |
:) |
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kivilahtio |
:) |
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kivilahtio |
just copy paste |
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kivilahtio |
agnet should work |
| 09:41 |
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kivilahtio |
tho you can access the koha server only from the local machine unless you do some dns stuff |
| 09:41 |
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kivilahtio |
agnet: you need to know apache2 to modify this |
| 09:42 |
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kivilahtio |
agnet: mainly the ports and servernames and prefix/suffix |
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agnet |
Koha will be installed locally only and then I connect the laptop to the router and forward port to it |
| 09:42 |
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agnet |
so it is accessed from outside |
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kivilahtio |
agnet: you need to call the koha server with the serverName, not ip |
| 09:43 |
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agnet |
that is why I |
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agnet |
did not used packages |
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kivilahtio |
agnet: you can modify the apache2 configs just the same |
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agnet |
as I don't know what I need to do from now on |
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kivilahtio |
well, that is a apache2-problem |
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agnet |
can you tell me step by step how to do this please |
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agnet |
? |
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kivilahtio |
I can tell you that you need to change the ports, say 80 for OPAC and 8080 for intranet. Then you need to listen to those ports from apache2. Then you need to modify the /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/your-koha-configuration to allow access to intranet and OPAC from all IP's |
| 09:46 |
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kivilahtio |
and make sure the access is not limited ny the serverName directive |
| 09:46 |
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agnet |
and for the Domain Name?? |
| 09:46 |
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agnet |
it is on a local machine |
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kivilahtio |
I don't know you intranet topography back where you come from |
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agnet |
so I don't have a domain |
| 09:47 |
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kivilahtio |
then leave it empty |
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agnet |
ok tks |
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kivilahtio |
agnet: take care! |
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agnet |
and for the intrasuffix |
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agnet |
? |
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agnet |
will leave it as it is |
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kivilahtio |
try |
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agnet |
? |
| 09:48 |
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kivilahtio |
I said you can get it running |
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kivilahtio |
with the defaults |
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kivilahtio |
so get it running, tweak from there |
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agnet |
ok thanks |
| 09:51 |
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kivilahtio |
agnet: Also you can access many Koha test server around the world. Not sure why you need to install Koha, but if you are just testing it is easier to just use a demo server and a manual |
| 09:51 |
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agnet |
I just need Koha to be able to cataloge and then export them and import them in another system |
| 09:52 |
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kivilahtio |
agnet: maybe you could just buy that service? |
| 09:53 |
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kivilahtio |
agnet: there are some configuration that needs to be done to be able to catalog and esp. import your data |
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kivilahtio |
anget, especialyl if it is a short-term issue for you |
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kivilahtio |
and you don't need linux experience in your organization |
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agnet |
can't do that.. My organization where I work with.. need Koha to catalog books/digital and then when ready... they export the data by exporting them |
| 09:57 |
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agnet |
and then import them to another system.. |
| 09:57 |
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agnet |
aleph |
| 09:59 |
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agnet |
I have another problem |
| 09:59 |
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agnet |
System maintenance The Koha online catalog is offline for system maintenance. We'll be back soon! If you have any questions, please contact the site administrator |
| 09:59 |
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agnet |
getting this message |
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agnet |
how can I solve it please |
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agnet |
how can I solve it please? |
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agnet |
ups sorry for the double |
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agnet |
keyboard |
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agnet |
!!! |
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agnet |
sudo a2enmod deflate |
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agnet |
I did those steps |
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agnet |
and no error |
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agnet |
someone? |
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wahanui |
someone is, like, missing |
| 10:05 |
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magnuse |
agnet: you get that error from the opac as long as you have not run the web installer, which you access at the address for the intranet |
| 10:06 |
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magnuse |
so try http://localhost:8080/ |
| 10:06 |
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magnuse |
if you used 8080 for the intranet port |
| 10:08 |
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agnet |
and how can I do the web installer |
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agnet |
which command to run |
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agnet |
? |
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agnet |
?? |
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agnet |
magnuse: which command please? |
| 10:15 |
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agnet |
as I need it please |
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magnuse |
you need to access the intranet in a web browser |
| 10:15 |
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magnuse |
so try http://localhost:8080/ |
| 10:16 |
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agnet |
that worked |
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agnet |
and then |
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agnet |
? |
| 10:17 |
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magnuse |
you need to log in there and answer the questions/options |
| 10:18 |
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agnet |
ok thanks |
| 10:20 |
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agnet |
it worked |
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agnet |
last question |
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agnet |
is there a way to change the default password please |
| 10:24 |
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magnuse |
leave the password you used now as it is |
| 10:25 |
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magnuse |
the first thing you should do is create a new user and give it superlibrarian rights |
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magnuse |
then you should never use the "database user" again |
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agnet |
ok thanls |
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agnet |
thanks |
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kivilahtio |
When was the total Koha rewrite due ? ;) |
| 11:43 |
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kivilahtio |
just looking at request.pl :) |
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petter |
I don't think total rewrite will ever happen |
| 12:09 |
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petter |
Nor is it necessarily a good idea |
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petter |
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/[…]og0000000069.html |
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petter |
It’s harder to read code than to write it. |
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kivilahtio |
wow a good article and true, but you should take a look at request.pl :) |
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kivilahtio |
I mean why are all items pulled from DB many times and copied over from array to array |
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petter |
hehe |
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petter |
well, well |
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kivilahtio |
or even worse, iterated to compare some itemnumber to other |
| 12:14 |
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petter |
right |
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petter |
While rewrite might be a bad idea - refactoring is maybe a better one |
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kivilahtio |
petter: I am not saing the whole Koha should be overwritten, but some parts definetely have been tinkered way past bedtime |
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petter |
I mean |
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kivilahtio |
petter ++ |
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petter |
one should continously refactor |
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petter |
sure |
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kivilahtio |
but this is a very good article thanks for that! |
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petter |
Yea, its a famous article, I saw it referenced many places |
| 12:16 |
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petter |
And I think Koha is slowly but surely is getting refactored from old prodedural code into more object oriented style |
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petter |
Just look at the differences from directory C4 and Koha |
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kivilahtio |
petter: yup |
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petter |
oh, request.pl indeed looks messy! |
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kivilahtio |
yup :) |
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kf |
petter: it's because holds are insane... |
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kf |
my theory at least :) |
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petter |
yes, reality is messy, so sooner or later code becomes messy too |
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petter |
:) |
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kivilahtio |
kf: I agree that holds are messy |
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kivilahtio |
kf: And we should even have more complex holds |
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kivilahtio |
kf: Like being able to place substitute holds, So we can hold 4 biblios/items, and if any of them is reserved, then other holds are nulled |
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Dyrcona |
kivilahtio: Does this mean I'll have to go to Koha conferences to get salmiakki in the future? :p |
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kivilahtio |
Dyrcona: wow, no idea. We are working on that. After two weeks we have a meeting in Oulu where we decide should we choose Koha or Evergreen or Nothing |
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* Dyrcona |
votes for Nothing. :p |
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kivilahtio |
Dyrcona: But I have a gut feeling I am not participating to library conferences any time soon ;( |
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kivilahtio |
Dyrcona: So you might have to import your salmiakki from somewhere else |
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Dyrcona |
:) |
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kivilahtio |
Dyrcona: but the way things are progressing I am veering towards Nothing as well |
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Dyrcona |
kivilahtio: Trouble is all library software is pretty much equally bad, and the commercial products are often worse. |
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kivilahtio |
Dyrcona: yeah I have noticed |
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Dyrcona |
kivilahtio: I put the blame on the crap "standards" that library software must adhere to. |
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kivilahtio |
Dyrcona: I am not so sure the issue is with MARC or SIP2 |
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kivilahtio |
Dyrcona: The requirements are just really complex |
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kivilahtio |
Dyrcona: Business logic is crazy, especially when it comes to holds and circulation |
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kivilahtio |
Dyrcona: I didn't know there are so many ways to place a hold |
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Dyrcona |
kivilahtio: There's that, too. We often hear contradictory things from our consortium members regarding requirements. |
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kivilahtio |
Dyrcona: wow that's hard. And try to make compromises :) |
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Dyrcona |
kivilahtio: Yeah. "We want it simple, except for this and this and that, oh and that thing, too." :) |
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* Dyrcona |
wonders how complicated SAP is, 'cause we're basically writing SAP for libraries. |
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magnuse |
"an ils is just a database, with crazy rules" |
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Dyrcona |
magnuse: No. It must also be a discovery platform, an accounting system, inventory control, etc. |
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magnuse |
Dyrcona: yes, a database that is bent to do all those things |
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kivilahtio |
Dyrcona: And this library shouldnt be able to modify this librarys items but it should be able to modify the patrons. This library and this library MUST be able to float material together but not with any other library |
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kivilahtio |
lol my colleagues no longer even say bye bye to me when they leave office |
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kivilahtio |
it's this bad here :) |
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kivilahtio |
I guess I am the bad boy now by saying that we arent making progress with Evergreen and will fail our deadlines if we don't do something |
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kivilahtio |
anyway, back to request.pl :) |
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kivilahtio |
Dyrcona: btw, what is SAP? |
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Dyrcona |
http://www.sap.com/ |
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Dyrcona |
The be-all, do-all software for business, an ILS for industry. |
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Dyrcona |
"You don't modify SAP to suit your business. You modify your business to suit SAP." |
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magnuse |
more modularity would probably be good |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: totally, atleast data accessors should be centralized |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: Currently there are many ways to pull different kinds of Items from the DB |
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kivilahtio |
that is confusing |
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Dyrcona |
And here I thought options were good. Choice is good, right? ;) |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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kivilahtio |
Dyrcona: Just extended GetItemsInfo() to support custom filters, like fromDate or volume or issue. But because Items data is accessed from so many different places, my filter is only good for this one access method |
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kivilahtio |
This is a BIG problme |
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magnuse |
i wonder if DBIx::Class will help make that sort of thing better |
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khall |
magnuse: I do believe we should be able to add custom column filters using dbic |
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khall |
http://search.cpan.org/dist/DB[…]/FilterColumn.pod |
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kivilahtio |
Hibernate for Perl? |
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khall |
basically |
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magnuse |
i was thinking of centralizing data access methods, but i suspect there is a world of potential hiding in dbic |
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kivilahtio |
I smell trouble :) The great thing with Koha's random and rancid SQL accessors is the ease of understanding the code |
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kivilahtio |
using a DB abstraction layer will increase the learning curve |
| 13:28 |
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kivilahtio |
but regarding how easy it is to get into Koha, I think it might be a great idea |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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kivilahtio |
With evergreen I hated it's db-abstraction layer. That was because I never really understood it. |
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kivilahtio |
But here we actually have a documented Perl library to do it |
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kivilahtio |
reagrdless DBIx is the way to go |
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kivilahtio |
if we ever ge tto vote or something |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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magnuse |
kivilahtio: it's too late to vote, bug 8798 is already pushed to stable ;-) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8798 enhancement, P3, ---, elliott, Pushed to Master , Add the use of DBIx::Class |
| 13:39 |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: hi there! |
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magnuse |
s/stable/master/ |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: You need to verify my UI design! |
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magnuse |
hiya oleonard |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: and I knew it! This is a tyranny! |
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oleonard |
kivilahtio: ? |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: http://193.65.112.189/cgi-bin/[…]lter=Clear+filter |
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jcamins |
kivilahtio: voting and discussion went on for over a year. |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: regarding bug_11129 |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: just kidding, don't shoot me |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: You have seen this, but with the "clear filter"-button, do I really need to use a plain link? |
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oleonard |
I think it would be more consistent with the OPAC in general to use plain links for both, perhaps with accompanying icons from (or added to) the sprite |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: how do you suggest i use those icons? |
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kivilahtio |
in this case you are prolly taking about the arrow down icon? |
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oleonard |
See search results or lists for examples of how plain links are styled with icons to help clarify their purpose |
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oleonard |
the "more searches" menu on the detail page shows an example of the arrow indicator being used |
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oleonard |
I'm not the king of the OPAC, but I do have strong opinions. You're welcome to rally counter-opinions |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: I heard you are the UI expert and I think I trust your judgement |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: I will apply the fix per your instructions |
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magnuse |
bonjour paul_p |
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kivilahtio |
hi paul_p |
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paul_p |
hi northern guys ! |
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paul_p |
( hi southerns too ;-) ) |
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kivilahtio |
Scandinavian Union? |
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kivilahtio |
I heard Sweden is almost to Koha as well |
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kivilahtio |
so... |
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rambutan |
kivilahtio: are you an evergreen dev? |
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kivilahtio |
We just need a committee I guess |
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kivilahtio |
rambutan: well, no. I got frustrated as hell working with it |
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paul_p |
kivilahtio why not. Not sure norway will join the union. At least as long as they've an oil treasure under their feet :D |
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rambutan |
ah, ok. |
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kivilahtio |
rambutan: But I have been building our server cluster to run it := |
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paul_p |
rambutan = do you want to depress kivilahtio ? it's not a friendly question :D |
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kivilahtio |
rambutan: But I maye be able to answer some questions, but I feel like Dyrcona is a better Evergreen dev. |
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rambutan |
no, it's just that I read something about EG moving to a browser based interface, and I was wondering about the status of that |
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rambutan |
no big deal |
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kivilahtio |
rambutan: that's true, and a big relief for the community. Their staff client is based on some ancient Xulrunner they cannot migrate from. This has been a huge handicap for Evergreen. Did you get the eta for the transition? |
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* oleonard |
suspects gmcharlt would have knowledge of this |
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rambutan |
no, I just skimmed some article, and don't recall any details |
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jcamins |
As would jeff, I bet. |
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magnuse |
hola tcohen |
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rambutan |
actullly gmcharlt would probably know, I'll ask him sometime |
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kivilahtio |
rambutan: I think funding is being raised to do the migration to web based. |
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rambutan |
ic |
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Dyrcona |
rambutan: The browser based interface is not yet a complete proof of concept, but some groups are gathering funds to begin the exploratory work. |
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kivilahtio |
rambutan: Too bad it won't help our migration deadlines |
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rambutan |
is there currently a linux client for EG? |
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kivilahtio |
you need to compile it |
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jcamins |
Yeah, the staff client is XULrunner based. |
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kivilahtio |
first you install the EG server (good luck with that) then you try to figure out how the hell you compile the staff client |
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kivilahtio |
for linux |
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Dyrcona |
Pfft.... It's cake. |
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oleonard |
I have enough trouble getting Chatzilla running under XULrunner ;) |
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kivilahtio |
but the documentation for that is pretty good. http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuw[…]_the_staff_client |
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kivilahtio |
phew killed the request.pl and friends |
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oleonard |
? |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: well not literally, just.. you know.. solved my issues with them ;) |
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kivilahtio |
so don't go hollering to NSA wil lyou? |
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magnuse |
too late to worry about that, probably |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: :) so true |
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gmcharlt |
re Evergreen replacing its staff client -- no firm ETA as yet, but various parties, including Equinox, are working on various projects to gather funding and do more prototyping |
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gmcharlt |
needless to say, it woudl be a rather large change, akin to the effort of fully implementing the various search, indexing, and multi-metadata projects folks are interested in for Koha |
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rambutan |
ack |
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druthb |
"Curiouser and curiouser", said Alice. |
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druthb |
end-of-year gift from my employer: A standard membership in AAA. :) (American Automobile Association, an auto-services club, for the non-US-ians.) |
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jcamins |
What an interesting end-of-year gift. |
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rambutan |
hey, I'll take it. Heckofa lot more than I'll get. |
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kivilahtio |
rambutan: so what do you get? |
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rambutan |
0 zero, zip, nada, the empty set |
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kivilahtio |
rambutan: cool me too! |
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tcohen |
druthb: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUO-pXuw6gg |
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druthb |
I've never been a AAA member before. A lot of their services are things that an extremely self-reliant person (like me) will just do for themselves. But the member discounts on this and that will be nice. |
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kivilahtio |
druthb: don't get me started!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9XiD_2K7-Q |
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druthb |
tcohen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/[…]res_in_Wonderland Increasingly, I feel like I've wandered down a very well-funded rabbit hole here... |
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tcohen |
hehj |
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oleonard |
You're making all the public employees jealous druthb ;) |
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* magnuse |
considers what he should give himself for a end-of-year gift |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: yeah, but we all know that "the public bread is long but thin" |
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oleonard |
Heh, we don't have that saying in America |
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kivilahtio |
we do |
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druthb |
oleonard: There's more coming….I hear end-of-year bonuses are pretty amazing here. Also, Nick gives a *personal* gift—besides the company gift—to everyone. |
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druthb |
Last year, it was a nice rollaboard suitcase. |
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* jcamins |
doesn't get a AAA membership as an end-of-year gift. |
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kivilahtio |
druthb: well... We have almost free healthcare, top that |
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kivilahtio |
:) |
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magnuse |
so there! |
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wahanui |
rumour has it so there is no way we can enable it I think |
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oleonard |
Yeah, but your boss is a jerk jcamins |
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druthb |
kivilahtio: if we had anyone rational in Washington DC, we'd have that. |
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kivilahtio |
druthb: Have you read this comic? http://www.addictedtowar.com/ |
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kivilahtio |
nice song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B591rJlMY5c |
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druthb |
I have, yes. Where we've gotten to is no great surprise to anyone who grasps what President Eisenhower said about the "military-industrial complex." |
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kivilahtio |
yup |
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kivilahtio |
and it saddens me |
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druthb |
(Eisenhower was born in my home town, so I had occasion to study his Presidency at some length in school.) |
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kivilahtio |
druthb: America has had some pretty awesome presidents. Too bad the greatest have been assassinated |
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kivilahtio |
fighting against private banks, fighting against military industrial complex |
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kivilahtio |
so sad |
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kivilahtio |
but gotta keep fightin you know :) |
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kivilahtio |
@ work |
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huginn |
kivilahtio: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Translation files for 3.14.0-beta <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c4027c63feaec5002> |
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* magnuse |
should be translating |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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druthb |
hi, mtompset! :) |
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mtompset |
Greetings, druthb. |
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mtompset |
I was playing with the bootstrap styling. |
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mtompset |
The login link doesn't work the same now. |
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mtompset |
I enabled persona, and it only shows on the right, but not in the pop-up windows. |
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rambutan |
morning mtompset |
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mtompset |
Greetings, rambutan. |
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mtompset |
Oh this is interesting... can't log in persona?! |
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kivilahtio |
Hi I have a issue with applying a patch ontop of another patch using 'git bz apply 11157'. Here's the error http://pastebin.com/LSmhQycs |
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kivilahtio |
Patch failed at 0001 Bug 11157 - Placing a simple item-level hold for serials.? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11157 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Placing a simple item-level hold for serials. |
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kivilahtio |
fatal: sha1 information is lacking or useless ? |
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kivilahtio |
I guess this is bad |
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kivilahtio |
I am running my dev environment from where I make these patches. Then I try to apply them in our "production" server. |
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oleonard |
It usually means you tried to apply a patch that depended on another patch |
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kivilahtio |
bot have been updated to latest master |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: hmm. tricky. I'll try resetting my commit tree and replacing some pathces, maybe I have missed something |
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mtompset |
Hmmm... more things must have been done... *waits for master to fetch* |
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Joubu |
kivilahtio: you can try to apply the patch with git apply --reject and see where the problem is |
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Project master_maria build #186: STILL UNSTABLE in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/186/ |
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jenkins_koha |
Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Translation files for 3.14.0-beta |
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mtompset |
"audience mismatch: domain mismatch" Grrrr... |
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mtompset |
Greetings, tcohen. |
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mtompset |
Greetings drnoe. |
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tcohen |
hi, power outage here |
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drnoe |
howdy |
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tcohen |
again |
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Starting build #187 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 7 days 9 hr ago) |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11086: (follow-up) editing the database files also <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e7dabdc57d9ab1a60> / Bug 11086: Fixing some grammatical mistakes in member-flags and tools-home <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]27cc70da555ce6da6> |
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jenkins_koha |
Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Translation files for 3.14.0-beta |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1481 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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tcohen |
@later tell eythian would u consider building MARC::Record 2.0.6? |
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huginn |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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kf |
tcohen: maybe point him to the bug for explanation? but good idea! |
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* tcohen |
is building UNC's branch with those patches to make some tests |
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kf |
cool :) |
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lettucebowling |
Recommended upgrade path from 3.00.01.005? Should I just build a new vm with Debian and import the MySQL DB? I've been tasked with upgrading this, it was a vmware version from khall a few years back. |
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kf |
lettucebowling: switching to packages would be good I think |
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kf |
if you are updating from 3.0 you will also have to run a script, but the packages should tell you that I think |
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kf |
tcohen: do you know if they will? |
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lettucebowling |
I agree with that on the packages |
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tcohen |
yes |
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tcohen |
koha-upgrade-to-3.4 instancename |
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lettucebowling |
tcohen: assuming I've followed all the steps on the wiki for Debian, are you referring to a perl script that does the db upgrade? |
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tcohen |
there are two upgrade scripts |
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tcohen |
koha-upgrade-schema (which is triggered automagically on each upgrade) |
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tcohen |
koha-upgrade-to-3.4 which you'll need to run by yourself once you load your old DB |
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lettucebowling |
tcohen: got it. |
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tcohen |
the steps would be |
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tcohen |
1) clean packages install |
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tcohen |
2) create a new instance called whatever you want |
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tcohen |
drop the database it created (in mysql) |
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tcohen |
4) recreate the database empty this time |
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tcohen |
5) load your old 3.0.x db into it |
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tcohen |
6) run koha-upgrade-schema instancename |
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tcohen |
7) run koha-upgrade-to-3.4 instancename |
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tcohen |
8) run koha-rebuild-zebra -f instancename |
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druthb |
tcohen++ |
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tcohen |
9) give tcohen some cookies |
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lettucebowling |
tcohen: you deserve many many cookies!! |
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kf |
tcohen++ :) |
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lettucebowling |
tcohen: so this doesn't seem to far out of bounds. Thanks so much. |
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tcohen |
i've learnt a few days ago that this beatiful community deserves all the cookie jar |
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lettucebowling |
tcohen: I can try to convince our gifts officer to donate to koha-community; no promises - we are a non-profit too :0 |
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* kf |
hands tcohen cookies :) |
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* druthb |
makes up a big batch of snax bars to send to tcohen |
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tcohen |
heh |
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tcohen |
i have to say druthb that i still have a couple of those you brought to kohacon13 |
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tcohen |
:-D |
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druthb |
:D |
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kf |
ok going home now - later :) |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: can you 'git bz apply' these patches real quick? 11129, 6385, 11157? I get no issues in my dev machine even if applying to a freshly cloned repo. But no go in my production environment. |
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kivilahtio |
Joubu: regarding this http://pastebin.com/LSmhQycs |
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jenkins_koha |
Project master_maria build #187: STILL UNSTABLE in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/187/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 11086: Fixing some grammatical mistakes in member-flags and tools-home |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 11086: (follow-up) editing the database files also |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11086 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Koha Tools Upload Patron Images text description change |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org. Next general IRC meeting 9th November, 02:00 UTC |
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tcohen |
bug 6554 is a mess, I cannot reproduce most of the reported problems |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6554 critical, P3, ---, ketan, Failed QA , Resolve encoding problems with corrected UTF8 handling in templates |
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tcohen |
is there a 'bz reset --hard origin/master 6554' command? |
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jcamins |
tcohen: what on earth would that do? |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: Can you help me just apply three patches? |
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tcohen |
i don't know, something like deleting most of the attachments and comments |
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jcamins |
tcohen: oh, I see. No. |
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jcamins |
kivilahtio: just use git am -3iu |
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reiveune1 |
bye |
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druthb |
cait! |
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cait |
hi druthb :) |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: thanks but no thanks. Got it fixed and learnt a heavy lesson on how not to modify previous commits |
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kivilahtio |
we have a saying that one learns by the heel |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 11086: Fixing some grammatical mistakes in member-flags and tools-home |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 11086: (follow-up) editing the database files also |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11086 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Koha Tools Upload Patron Images text description change |
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tcohen |
byeeee |
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rangi |
morning |
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druthb |
hiya, rangi. :) |
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rangi |
heya druthb, hows texas? |
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oleonard |
Hi rangi |
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rangi |
hey oleonard |
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wahanui |
i heard oleonard was still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer |
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* oleonard |
is trying to upgrade Drupal 6 to Drupal 7, just because it's so much fun. |
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rangi |
hehe |
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rangi |
wait until 8 comes out, thats gonna break EVERYTHING |
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rangi |
on purpose |
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jcamins |
Apparently there are formats as bad as MARC: https://code.google.com/p/xee/[…]oshopLoader.m#108 |
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oleonard |
rangi: I know, I know! |
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rangi |
eew |
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rangi |
oleonard: drupalsouth is on soon |
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rangi |
https://drupalsouth2014.drupal.org.nz/ |
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oleonard |
Shall I come and bellyache to everyone about upgrades? |
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rangi |
thats all i do |
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rangi |
and im not even on the drupal team |
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rangi |
i think we have 30 drupal developers now |
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oleonard |
I wish I spent enough time with Drupal to think in Drupal, but that would mean spending a little too much time with Drupal |
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rangi |
http://www.scmp.com/frontpage/international <-- i think is still the biggest drupal site we've done |
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rangi |
http://www.maoritelevision.com/ <-- that one too |
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rangi |
scmp is quite tricky with its lazy loading |
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oleonard |
Ugh, I should throw this whole site in the trash and code it by hand from scratch. |
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rangi |
heh |
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mtompset |
jcamins: That link... Hilarious. :) |
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cait |
rangi: what do you thnk about the postgres db schema - could it be removed? |
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rangi |
yep as could kohastructure.sql (but not yet) |
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rangi |
id leave it all for now |
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cait |
bug 11155 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11155 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED WONTFIX, PostgreSQL schema contains syntax errors |
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rangi |
and once 3.14 is released |
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cait |
just pondering an answer here |
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cait |
and was not sure |
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rangi |
we could start tidying up |
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cait |
but if someone wanted to submit a patch? |
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rangi |
we'd have to make the installer use the schema deploy |
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rangi |
yep a patch ot remove it wouldnt hurt |
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rangi |
basically we want to get to just installer/data |
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rangi |
no mysql or postgres |
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rangi |
and the schema is the dbix::class schema |
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gmcharlt |
and either DBMS-independent SQL for the seed data, or possibly CSV or the like |
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rangi |
yep |
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gmcharlt |
there will probably have to be hooks for DBMS-dependent follow-up scripts -- e.g., to set the storage engine for select tables |
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rangi |
id imagine changing the installer to create teh db from the schema would be first step |
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rangi |
then remove both of hte kohastructure.sql files |
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rangi |
heh i can not type the |
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rangi |
then the data as the next step |
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gmcharlt |
rangi: only three more possibilities to go! |
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rangi |
:) |
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mtompset |
There will still be back-end connection information in the koha-conf.xml file though, right? |
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mtompset |
i.e. once connected, everything is agnostic. |
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cait |
gmcharlt: rangi - would one of you comment on the bug then? ;) |
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rangi |
cait: sometime, when i get time |
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cait |
if your live is like mine... that means never :) |
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gmcharlt |
I've drop in a comment |
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JesseM |
bug 9011 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9011 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, In Discussion , Add the ability to store the last patron to return an item |
| 18:55 |
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dbs |
cait++ rangi++ gmcharlt++ |
| 18:56 |
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JesseM |
is this '9011' getting pushed in to 3.14? |
| 18:56 |
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oleonard |
Not if it's "In Discussion" JesseM |
| 18:56 |
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gmcharlt |
JesseM: no, that's rather unlikely at this point |
| 18:57 |
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JesseM |
thanks I was just wondering |
| 18:59 |
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cait |
hi dbs |
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rangi |
seems like a good feature tho, be nice to get it in 3.16 |
| 19:00 |
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rangi |
dbs: you should be able to deploy a postgres db from the schema in master now .. however i havent tried in a long time :) |
| 19:00 |
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rangi |
and it would have to be done by hand |
| 19:01 |
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rangi |
(not using the installer) |
| 19:01 |
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rangi |
however i plan to (with the help of bgkriegel) set up a postgres koha instance that runs all the unit tests for master in jenkins |
| 19:02 |
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rangi |
we have mysql and maria currently, i think adding postgres will help us catch a lot of the low hanging mysqlisms |
| 19:02 |
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gmcharlt |
at the moment, a case-insensitive collation would be a good idea if you make the attempt |
| 19:02 |
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rangi |
true |
| 19:06 |
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rangi |
i reckon next time we have a kohacon in the same continent as most of the evergreen developers we should try to organise a combined hackfest |
| 19:07 |
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rangi |
or even if oleonard organises the athens county hackfest, might be worth extending it for open source ils :) |
| 19:08 |
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rangi |
just dont tell sirsi dynix the location |
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druthb |
lol |
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rangi |
it would be dangerous to have all the open source ils devs in one place :-) |
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oleonard |
yeah that's what I'm thinking too--several Evergreen libraries in my neighborhood |
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rambutan |
When is the Athens County OpenSource ILS Fest? |
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oleonard |
Whenever it gets organized |
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rangi |
:) |
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druthb |
c'mon, oleonard, get it together! |
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druthb |
doooo eeeeet |
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rambutan |
February 2014 you say? That works. Cheap airfares then. |
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oleonard |
No, gotta plan it precisely between now and KohaCon 2014 |
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druthb |
hi, tcohen! :) |
| 19:12 |
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tcohen |
hi druthb |
| 19:14 |
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rangi |
ok time for the school run, bbiab |
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oleonard |
Uh oh, but what if Marseille hackfest falls precisely between now and KohaCon 2014? |
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cait |
i think marseille was plannd for march, but maybe possible to move? |
| 19:15 |
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cait |
i might be confused |
| 19:15 |
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cait |
it has been a long day |
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tcohen |
oleonard: KohaCon14 will be held at October 2014, days to be confirmed |
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dbs |
rangi: I was just doing "psql -f kohastructure.sql" to get an idea of the basic koha schema :) |
| 19:16 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: is that an actual requirement from YPOW? |
| 19:16 |
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cait |
tcohen: can't we have one earlier? :P |
| 19:16 |
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* cait |
is all for shortening the times between kohacons... ;) |
| 19:17 |
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* dbs |
would try to get to a combo hackfest |
| 19:17 |
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oleonard |
YPOW? |
| 19:17 |
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jcamins |
Your Place Of Work. |
| 19:17 |
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oleonard |
It just seems sensible. Spread out the Koha events for maximum coverage. |
| 19:18 |
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oleonard |
But if Marseille hackfest is in March then Athens hackfest should be halfway between now and March, and someone *else* has to have a hackfest halfway between March and KohaCon 2014. |
| 19:18 |
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oleonard |
Simple. |
| 19:18 |
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* cait |
might have burnt her dinner a bit |
| 19:18 |
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jcamins |
Heh. Makes sense. |
| 19:25 |
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cait |
will one of the hackfests develop a teleporter.pm? :) |
| 19:26 |
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jcamins |
Ooh, if it's a joint Koha/EG hackfest in Athens maybe we can persuade rfrasur to come! |
| 19:26 |
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oleonard |
rfrasur? |
| 19:26 |
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jcamins |
She's the director of an Evergreen library. |
| 19:26 |
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jcamins |
She's on the border of Ohio. |
| 19:28 |
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jcamins |
Other people may be nearby too, but she's the only person who mentioned being near Ohio. |
| 19:29 |
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tcohen |
oh, you're not talking about the Greek city |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
| 19:29 |
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jcamins |
No. |
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oleonard |
No, my home town in Ohio tcohen :) |
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tcohen |
:-D |
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oleonard |
These are the Evergreen folks I know of: http://info.cool-cat.org/?page_id=13 Not especially close, but in the same state at least |
| 19:30 |
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tcohen |
your blog is in my startup page, i'm not sure why i didn't associate that |
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* oleonard |
pities his poor neglected blog |
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gmcharlt |
oleonard: I suggest talking with RoganH on Freenode if you want to pursue a joint hackfest -- he's done the cat herding for getting the previous two EG hackfests organized |
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oleonard |
Okay, thanks |
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oleonard |
After the KohaCon hackfest I'm a little intimidated about the work required to make one go smoothly :) |
| 19:35 |
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oleonard |
But at least I know better when the cookies and coffee should arrive. |
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gmcharlt |
room, caffeine, power-strips... |
| 19:35 |
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gmcharlt |
otherwise, we don't need much ;) |
| 19:36 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: by which I hope you mean "EARLY!" |
| 19:36 |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: I dunno, the zombie horde effect was amusing |
| 19:36 |
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jcamins |
Heh. |
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gmcharlt |
KITTEENZZ! |
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oleonard |
Without rangi or paul_p there I can skimp on the coffee too, right? |
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cait |
gmcharlt: internetz! |
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gmcharlt |
oleonard: NO YOU CANNOT |
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gmcharlt |
;) |
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gmcharlt |
cait: ah, good point |
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cait |
:) |
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druthb |
lolz |
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* druthb |
joins the Zombie Horde, and shambles around, mumbling. |
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rambutan |
If I'm able to attend I volunteer to bring the coffee and tea |
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rambutan |
and cherry mashes maybe |
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rambutan |
which are made here in St. Joseph http://www.cherrymash.com/ |
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gmcharlt |
oleonard++ |
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* oleonard |
asks that there be no more Pauls. We have enough Pauls. |
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gmcharlt |
OK |
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* gmcharlt |
tosses the name change form into the shredder |
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druthb |
gmcharlt: is that pic what I looked like pre-caffiene at KohaCon? |
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* gmcharlt |
whistles innocently |
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druthb |
Well-dodged, sir. |
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rangi |
https://twitter.com/ranginui/s[…]94727064302911488 |
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druthb |
cait++ |
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trea |
@get quote 123 |
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huginn |
trea: Error: The command "get" is available in the Dunno, Herald, Lart, Quote, and ReleaseDay plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "get". |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, huginn. |
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trea |
@quote get 123 |
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wahanui |
http://xkcd.com/1172/ |
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huginn |
trea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
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talljoy |
ah yes |
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talljoy |
mad schemes |
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jcamins |
Does anyone have any recognizes for media carousels that look good without taking up a lot of vertical space? |
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jcamins |
*recommendations |
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jcamins |
I have no idea what I was thinking that the word "recognizes" came out instead of "recommendations." |
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wizzyrea |
anythingslider |
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rangi |
my slot machine? |
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rangi |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
or rangi's slot machine |
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jcamins |
rangi: your slot machine? |
| 20:24 |
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rangi |
oh didnt i show you that? |
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jcamins |
Nope. |
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rangi |
i made a slot machine newbooks display for reno |
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rangi |
ill have to put it up online somewhere |
| 20:25 |
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wizzyrea |
(but anythingslider is probably more of what you are looking for. It's eminently configurable) |
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rangi |
yeah |
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jcamins |
Yeah, AnythingSlider looks nice. |
| 20:26 |
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wizzyrea |
depending on your markup it can do pretty much whatever you want |
| 20:26 |
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wizzyrea |
what words would I put in bugzilla for the feature that added the item url to the holdings table |
| 20:26 |
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wizzyrea |
i tried "item url" and that didn't get me anyhwere |
| 20:26 |
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wizzyrea |
where& |
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wizzyrea |
gah. |
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* wizzyrea |
stops now. |
| 20:27 |
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wizzyrea |
never mind, found it. :) http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8090 |
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huginn |
Bug 8090: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , item links should have descriptive text |
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rangi |
hmm dynix classic, im pretty sure that was made before i was born |
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tcohen |
is it possible to change itemtypes from mysql? |
| 20:33 |
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rangi |
hmm? |
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rangi |
the codes? |
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wahanui |
the codes are internal |
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jcamins |
tcohen: yeah, but you'll have to do a complete reindex. |
| 20:34 |
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rangi |
or just change what itemtype an item is? |
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tcohen |
is it buried inside the MARC records? |
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rangi |
items.itype |
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wahanui |
items.itype is, like, a column |
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jcamins |
Woohoo! AnythingSlider is GPL3. |
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rangi |
if you have item level itemtypes turned on |
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tcohen |
the latter rangi, but i see it is also in biblioitems.itemtype |
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jcamins |
Oh. LGPL3. That should still be compatible with AGPL3, though. |
| 20:35 |
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rangi |
tcohen if you have itemlevel itemtypes on as the syspref |
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rangi |
you only need worry about the items.itype column |
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tcohen |
ok, but it wouldnt let me delete an itemtype because it is used somewhere (biblioitems) |
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rangi |
i thought you were just changing what itemtype and item is .. if you are changing the itemtypes themselves, then yes, you need to update them everywhere |
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tcohen |
i'm moving items from one itemtype to another |
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jcamins |
My recommendation is a script based on touch_all_biblios that changes the item type in biblioitems in the appropriate situations. |
| 20:38 |
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tcohen |
and would like to clean the itemtypes table |
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tcohen |
oops |
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tcohen |
"AU | AU" doesn't seem like a valid itemtype (AU is) |
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* tcohen |
loves when someone else made a mistake on migrating data |
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tcohen |
hmm, is it possible that there is no fk constrain on itemtype for the biblioitems table? |
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jcamins |
tcohen: that is correct, because it can be NULL. |
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tcohen |
if a library had biblio-level itemtypes, and switched to item-level, they might have NULL and NOT NULL? |
| 20:54 |
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tcohen |
but in any way those itemtype values should be present in the itemtypes table, right? |
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jcamins |
Right, and they ought to be. |
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gmcharlt |
nullable FKs are permitted, though |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: then why don't we use them anywhere? |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: the dead weight of history, presumably |
| 21:09 |
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jcamins |
Okay, so there's not a specific reason that you're aware of. I never wanted one until after I switched to MariaDB, so I figured it was a support issue. |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: roasted cauliflower or cauliflower soup? |
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cait |
roasted. |
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mtompset |
first choice? |
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gmcharlt |
I can't speak to whether there were InnoDB bugs back in the day that made it problematic, but there's nothing stopping us now |
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cait |
you didn't ask me.. but... |
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wizzyrea |
ohhh hmmm |
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mtompset |
At least we are on the same wave length cait. :) |
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mtompset |
Well, have a great day, #koha. |
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jcamins |
And I think on the way home I'll pick up some berries. I have a bunch of fennel. |
| 21:11 |
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jcamins |
Though... |
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tcohen |
*sigh, bug found |
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* mtompset |
waves bye. |
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wizzyrea |
@wunder brooklyn NY |
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jcamins |
I could also try something different, just to be crazy. |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: The current temperature in Park Slope, Brooklyn, NY 11215, Brooklyn, New York is 7.2°C (5:11 PM EDT on October 29, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.37 in 1028 hPa (Steady). |
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mtompset |
tcohen: There will always be bugs, until the length of code is 0. :P |
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wizzyrea |
hm chilly, soup. |
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jcamins |
@wunder 11375 |
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huginn |
jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is 12.9°C (4:57 PM EDT on October 29, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.37 in 1028 hPa (Steady). |
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jcamins |
Wow. It's a lot warmer here than Brooklyn. Go figure. |
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wizzyrea |
yea wtf! |
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wizzyrea |
lol :) |
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jcamins |
Still feels pretty cold. |
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wizzyrea |
@quote add mtompset: there will always be bugs, until the length of code is 0. |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
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wizzyrea |
curses. |
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wizzyrea |
@quote add mtompset: there will always be bugs, until the length of code is 0. |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #282 added. |
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wizzyrea |
take that! |
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jcamins |
Oh, wow. Caramelized fennel. |
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jcamins |
http://putneyfarm.com/2012/04/[…]l-youll-ever-eat/ |
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wizzyrea |
ok that sounds pretty magic |
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jcamins |
Okay, I should go and get the veggies so I can make something with them. |
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rambutan |
@wunder 64507 |
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huginn |
rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 14.9°C (4:20 PM CDT on October 29, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Falling). |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (10:20 PM CET on October 29, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.12 in 986 hPa (Steady). |
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tcohen |
@wunder cordoba, argentina |
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huginn |
tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 24.0°C (6:00 PM ART on October 29, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.73 in 1006 hPa (Falling). |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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eythian |
hi |
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wahanui |
hi, eythian |
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rangi |
eythian: i cant make it to the hearing tomorrow, so if it works with whitireia and kathryn did you want to take my place? |
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magnuse |
kia ora eythian |
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eythian |
tcohen: I've had a brief go at building it, but I couldn't make it work. I'll try again when I get the chance. |
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rangi |
doh |
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eythian |
heh |
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rangi |
wrong #koha :) |
| 21:31 |
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rangi |
never mind, nuffink super secret |
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rambutan |
I should publish an anthology: "The Collected Recipes of #Koha". |
| 21:31 |
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magnuse |
we could put recipes in the wiki ;-) |
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tcohen |
rambutan++ # i'll buy a copy of it |
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rambutan |
I think I might try the fennel recipe above. |
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tcohen |
thanks eythian, i forgot to mention is related to bug 11096 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11096 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Koha cannot retreive big records from Zebra |
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tcohen |
what would be the source for sysprefs value validity check? |
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tcohen |
rephrase: i want to write a script/library/tool to check your systempreferences are sane/missing/invalid/deprecated |
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cait |
hm not sure |
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rangi |
there was one |
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rangi |
sort of |
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rangi |
in xt |
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rangi |
t/db_dependent/check_sysprefs.t |
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rangi |
maybe |
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gaetan_B |
bye ! |
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rangi |
cya gaetan_B |
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tcohen |
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/cat_know |
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tcohen |
rangi: i was thinking of a tab in About, something like "Koha's Health" |
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tcohen |
oh, that already exists like "System information" |
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tcohen |
i just need to add that checks |
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