IRC log for #koha, 2013-10-25

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00:30 eythian wahanui: linux
00:30 wahanui well, linux is soo coool. I'm running two VMs inside rhcl's OpenSuse desktop, and trying to convince myself I need to have another one with some version of RH running "just because"
00:30 eythian wahanui: linux is also
00:30 wahanui okay, eythian.
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00:39 oleonard Someone please restrain me from responding to that OPAC theme thread
00:40 rangi oleonard: dont respond
00:40 rangi threads like that make it almost useless posting questions like galen asked
00:40 oleonard There, I feel better. Thanks.
00:41 oleonard Where are you rangi?
00:41 rangi SFO
00:41 rangi i think im flying out of here at 9
00:41 gmcharlt fingers crossed
00:41 oleonard :( Not so soon, but sooner than tomorrow eh?
00:41 rangi lucky i turned up early to the airport in reno, cos my 5pm flight was cancelled
00:42 rangi so i got on the 12.03 which took off at 4pm
00:42 peggy Have a peaceful flight, @rangi
00:42 rangi its all jammed up, but apparently the big planes are mostly on schedule
00:44 oleonard Best of luck rangi
00:44 rangi thanks
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01:15 mtompset Regarding the OPAC theme thread... has anyone thought to co-relate the potential number scheme with it?
01:16 eythian I don't think that's come up.
01:16 eythian It could be a suggestion. It's not really a big change, but it is a user-visible one.
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01:21 mtompset Because default in 3.14? No... default in 3.16? Hmmmm.... I'm for an announcement about impending 4.0 with the new default theme. :)
01:35 wizzyrea ^ new default theme is a great excuse to version bump to 4
01:35 wizzyrea and then major number from there on.
01:37 mtompset And the whole DBIx stuff will have been in for 2 versions already, and nicely working. If I recall/understand correctly.
01:41 wizzyrea is the unsuspend cron a default one?
01:41 wizzyrea unsuspend suspended holds
01:41 wizzyrea I should say
01:43 eythian I don't think it is
01:44 eythian debian/koha-common.cron* should tell you
01:45 wizzyrea thank you that is exactly what I needed to know
01:45 wizzyrea where to look :)
01:48 wizzyrea right cool thanks
01:48 wizzyrea easier than checking a running system
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02:10 wizzyrea @wunder nzwn
02:10 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (3:00 PM NZDT on October 25, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady).
02:10 wizzyrea clear. really.
02:30 mtompset @wunder l7e 5y5
02:30 huginn mtompset: The current temperature in Schomberg, Ontario is 2.2°C (10:30 PM EDT on October 24, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
02:31 mtompset Care to send a few degrees with way, wizzyrea?:)
02:39 wizzyrea wow that's chilly
02:39 wizzyrea clear is a stretch - but looks like we've caught a break in regard to wind
02:39 wizzyrea @wunder nzwn
02:39 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0°C (3:30 PM NZDT on October 25, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Rising).
02:40 eythian huginn needs to be taught about wind.
02:40 huginn eythian: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
02:40 wizzyrea *nod*
02:40 wizzyrea @wunder help
02:40 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Poplar Bluff, Missouri is 5.0°C (8:53 PM CDT on October 24, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.37 in 1028 hPa (Rising). Freeze warning in effect from 1 am to 9 am CDT Friday...
02:40 wizzyrea O.o
02:41 user00_ @wunder 64507
02:41 huginn user00_: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 2.0°C (9:41 PM CDT on October 24, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.43 in 1030 hPa (Rising). Freeze warning in effect from 1 am to 9 am CDT Friday...
02:42 wizzyrea br.
02:42 rambuten We're colder than Ontario?
02:42 wizzyrea did we get down to 2 this winter? I don't think we did...
02:42 wizzyrea not down in wellington proper anyway.
02:43 rambuten I went and picked everything edible from the garden after work
02:43 rambuten put a bunch of hot peppers in the dehydrator
02:43 wizzyrea niiiice
02:44 eythian Nah, Wellington doesn't get to 2.
02:44 eythian 5 is pretty damn cold for here.
02:47 wizzyrea i saw a 5 one day. That was... unpleasant. But still not as cold as Kansas. I never put on my "winter" coat.
02:47 rambuten @wunder lawrence, ks
02:47 huginn rambuten: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 4.3°C (9:47 PM CDT on October 24, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.43 in 1030 hPa (Rising). Freeze warning in effect from midnight tonight to 9 am CDT Friday...
02:47 rambuten ha! downright warm
02:48 wizzyrea I daresay I wish the unsuspend holds cron had a test mode.
02:48 rambuten time for my sleep quantum
02:55 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
03:05 eythian wizzyrea: a patch to add the holds thing to the packages wouldn't be a bad thing, now you know what's needed... :)
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03:14 wizzyrea yarp
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06:12 * magnuse waves
06:13 magnuse @wunder boo
06:14 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (7:50 AM CEST on October 25, 2013). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.27 in 991 hPa (Steady).
06:14 magnuse "rain" is a very apt description...
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06:33 reiveune hello
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07:46 samueld hi everybody
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09:24 kivilahtio hi samueld
09:54 busla hey
10:11 busla "This instructions assume that your Koha checkout is /srv/koha. If it's in some other location, you have to change /srv/koha to correct folder throughout all scripts below."
10:11 busla just wondering about this documentation in Plack
10:11 busla my /srv folder is empty
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10:35 magnuse cait-m!
10:35 wahanui cait-m is probably on a train :-)
10:35 magnuse or a plane?
10:35 wahanui a plane is 20 mins late
10:35 magnuse that's a shame!
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10:37 magnuse cait-m_!
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10:49 petter hi folks!
10:49 petter anyone has experience with Koha & RFID?
10:54 kivilahtio hi petter!
10:55 NateC Morning everyone :)
10:55 petter hi Olli!
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12:03 gaetan_B hello
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12:32 * cait-m_ waves from zuricj
12:32 cait-m_ zurich
12:32 kivilahtio jcamins: oleonard:[…]lterIssues=Submit
12:32 kivilahtio FYI
12:33 kivilahtio I think I have a working filter and system preferences
12:33 kivilahtio next stop unit test and documentation phew.
12:35 jcamins kivilahtio: I think you could just use a regular link.
12:35 jcamins No need for a button.
12:35 jcamins But looks like a useful feature!
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12:44 druthb cait-m_:  you're nearly home!
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12:48 kivilahtio jcamins: And it seems to work :)
12:49 kivilahtio jcamins: I am not sure, I think it looks better like this with the clear-button. Without the clear button the plain link is better. But your feedback is much appreciated and I will think about that.
12:50 kivilahtio jcamins: Even two sysprefs already included :) wow I am so proud of myself !
12:50 jcamins oleonard is the person to talk to about UI.
12:50 kivilahtio working with Koha is really cool
12:50 kivilahtio anyway have to go enjoy the farmers market in Northern Finland
12:50 jcamins Poor you, being forced to leave work early to go to a farmer's market. :P
12:51 jcamins I bet you can get really good fish there.
12:52 kivilahtio no idea. I bet I could get pretty good anything there
12:52 kivilahtio thanks for your help jcamins. HAve a great weekend
12:52 jcamins You too.
12:57 Joubu kivilahtio: I just seen your link. Do you know the same filters stuff still exists in the staff interface ?
12:57 Joubu kivilahtio: page catalogue/
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13:21 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
13:22 druthb hi, mtompset  :)
13:28 mtompset @seen tcohen
13:28 huginn mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 22 hours, 3 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <tcohen> byeeee
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13:42 oleonard Hi #koha
13:44 mtompset Greetings, oleonard.
13:45 mtompset What do you think of the idea of changing numbering, Koha 4.0 lining up with a new default theme (Bootstrap)?
13:46 oleonard I think that would be overly dramatic.
13:46 mtompset so, too much?
13:47 mtompset Because we should change the major number at some point in time, and with DBIx getting in, and Bootstrap coming up. It seems like 3.14, 3.16, 4.0 seems like a good progression.
13:48 oleonard Yeah, but Bootstrap is in for 3.14, so it's not like it will be a surprise.
13:51 mtompset But it is desired to not be default, as far as I can tell from the conversation.
13:51 oleonard From what I can tell people don't really understand what default means in this context.
13:56 ashimema lol.. people indeed don't seem to understand the term 'default'.
13:57 ashimema side note.. skip 4 and goto 5 so we don't get more mixed up with the liblime mess ;)
13:58 ashimema that would be my preferred option at some point anyway..  though I'm happy with the 3.x releases
13:58 oleonard It has certainly been discussed
13:58 gmcharlt Introducing, Koha δ!
13:58 oleonard Also: Hi ashimema :) Travel go okay?
14:04 ashimema Yeah.. not bad.. had company for the middle stop which was nice.. got to know brooke a bit better
14:05 ashimema yourself oleonard?
14:05 ashimema actually.. I rather like the idea of switching to greek alphabet releases starting with pi ;)
14:05 ashimema certainly would distinguish us.. hehe
14:07 oleonard Nothing to report about my travel home. I was not groped by any grumpy TSA agents, so that's always a win.
14:09 mtompset alpha, beta, delta, PI? ;)
14:10 gmcharlt Koha χ would be next if we were going in order :)
14:10 gmcharlt er, no, I can't read
14:10 gmcharlt make that Koha ρ
14:11 mtompset gmcharlt: I thought you were releasing an alpha release, a beta release, a delta release, and then the official pi release. ;)
14:11 oleonard There goes our Googlability ;)
14:11 gmcharlt heh
14:12 ashimema haha..
14:13 mtompset -- expect in Greece. :P
14:13 mtompset except even. DOH!
14:14 oleonard Κοηα?
14:14 ashimema haha. starting with pi in the greek alphabet would give us only another 10 release's untill we run out of letters. :p
14:15 gmcharlt @quote add <oleonard> Κοηα?
14:15 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.  Quote #280 added.
14:15 mtompset Let's not mess with the name, oleonard . :P
14:16 mtompset And greek lettering is all fine, but TransformToNum() in would need to be reworked. :P
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14:19 mtompset Well, I better get going... puts drivers hat on.
14:19 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
14:35 oleonard 'Can't call method "field" on an undefined value at C4/ line 1407'
14:35 oleonard Is there a way to track down the cause of that error?
14:37 oleonard Oh never mind, stale zebra index.
14:37 oleonard But too bad can't gracefully handle that kind of problem :|
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14:55 oleonard jcamins around?
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15:20 oleonard khall around?
15:20 khall yo
15:20 oleonard About Bug 8004...
15:20 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8004 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Items on hold lose transfer after being scanned twice
15:21 khall yeah, were these followups post-push? or am I way off?
15:21 oleonard They have not been pushed. I'm not sure what the sequence was though.
15:22 oleonard The first follow-up is from you. Isn't it needed?
15:22 khall that's where I'm confused. In master I can see "Bug 8004 - Items on Hold Lose Transfer After Being Scanned Twice"
15:22 khall commit 81edc91f37b58a5f3c02443073c5bc4d4411bf82
15:23 khall my followup is superflous since there is another bug to clean up all the template plugin names
15:24 oleonard Okay, so I guess the question is whether my follow-up is superfluous too or whether Bug 10626 takes care of it
15:24 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10626 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Remove doubled up TT plugins
15:25 * oleonard is checking what changes 10626 makes
15:25 khall I would say yes
15:25 khall 10626 covers the same files
15:26 oleonard Yeah, looks like it.
15:26 oleonard Okay so 8004 should really be set back to "pushed to master" I guess
15:26 khall should we just change 8004 to RESOLVED?
15:26 khall cool, can do
15:26 oleonard Or that :)
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15:28 oleonard cait!
15:28 khall g'day cait!
15:28 cait hi khall and oleonard
15:28 cait i miss you guys!
15:28 khall likewise ; )
15:28 oleonard Yeah!
15:29 cait teleporters...
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15:29 khall still working on it
15:29 cait keep going - we need that done asap!
15:30 khall I think cannons are more doable than teleporters
15:30 oleonard Ballistic transportation pods?
15:30 cait you want to shoot us with a cannon? hmm
15:30 khall great name!
15:30 cait maybe like those old bottle post systems
15:30 oleonard A series of tubes!
15:30 * cait is eating a last leftover kohacon cookie right now
15:31 khall heh, I've been working on those gummy bears!
15:31 cait :)
15:32 * oleonard is happy to report that the bottle of wine cait generously passed on to him made it home safely
15:32 cait :)
15:33 * oleonard distributed some other KohaCon swag to those here who paid his bills
15:33 cait :)
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15:35 jcamins oleonard: vaguely.
15:36 oleonard jcamins: Now or later I'd like to hear again how you handle on-the-fly compiling of LESS files during dev
15:36 jcamins Sure. It's really easy.
15:36 jcamins I have a toggle that decides whether to include the LESS directly, or whether to use prerendered CSS.
15:37 jcamins If dev mode is on, the LESS is compiled using JS in the browser.
15:37 jcamins If it is off, the CSS file is served instead of the LESS + JS.
15:40 oleonard What is the toggle?
15:40 jcamins A configuration file setting in my case, but you could make it into a system preference if you wanted.
15:42 ashimema That sounds like a nice feature ;)
15:43 jcamins ashimema: only necessary if one uses LESS.
15:43 oleonard I want to make it easy for others to contribute changes to the new bootstrap theme without necessarily having to make changes to their dev environment
15:43 jcamins Or SASS. Or SCSS.
15:43 jcamins oleonard: oh, so you decided to use LESS?
15:44 oleonard Yes, the new theme's CSS is built from LESS files
15:44 ashimema Indeed... but with any luck some people might start using LESS with the bootstrap theme coming.. I know I'm hoping to.. I already use it in a few other projects.
15:44 * cait waves at ashimema :)
15:44 ashimema hey cait. :)
15:44 cait just got home and ate the last cookie and caramel popcorn... probably a bad idea :)
15:44 jcamins ashimema: yeah, I like LESS a lot.
15:45 ashimema It would be even nicer to have OPACUserCSS support LESS out of the box.. (I actually prefered SCSS when I initially started playing for some reason)
15:45 oleonard Unless you wanted to make it dependent on JS you'd have to include some kind of LESS compiler with Koha
15:46 gmcharlt hi cait!
15:46 cait hi gmcharlt :)
15:46 jcamins oleonard: well, technically, you'd be depending on JS either way. ;)
15:46 oleonard jcamins: I mean a server-side compiler that wrote the CSS file
15:46 jcamins I know.
15:46 oleonard ?
15:47 ashimema Yup.. I undestand that..
15:47 jcamins oleonard: the LESS compiler is written in JS, which suddenly struck me as amusing. I guess I was the only one who found it funny.
15:48 gmcharlt just not client-side
15:48 oleonard I could see a system where saving the OPACUserCSS/JS prefs triggered a grunt task that recompiled CSS and JS
15:48 jcamins Right.
15:49 ashimema there are a whole bunch of online services to do the LESS compile for you.. wonder if any have an api such that we could send it off them them and get the css back.. (saving us code)
15:49 ashimema mind you.. this is probably very outside of koha's normal user cases.. bet most people don't customise 'that' much.
15:50 gmcharlt you'd be surprised
15:50 gmcharlt I'd prefer handing off to a server-side compiler, though
15:50 jcamins I feel like it'd be better to just use CSS::LESS and cache the results if it reaches that point.
15:50 ashimema I'm horrified by how muhc some of our sites rely on OPACUserJS to do crazy things.
15:50 ashimema ooh.. didn't know there was a CSS::LESS
15:51 ashimema that's a muhc nicer solution
15:51 gmcharlt ashimema: yeah, though in some respects that's better than the bad old days of folks editing templates on a whim -- with or without version control
15:52 gmcharlt that == OPACUSerJS, to be clear
15:53 cait hm did someone hear from rangi?
15:53 cait seems lots of problems ith flying over sfo today
15:54 rambutan @seen rangi
15:54 huginn rambutan: rangi was last seen in #koha 15 hours, 9 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <rangi> thanks
15:54 cait logs?
15:54 wahanui logs is
15:55 ashimema gmcharlt: very true.. we've got a few places with the good 'ol edit the template method out there too (at elast they're in git).. but I go mad every time I have to upgrade them.. slowly proting them all to OPACUserCSS and OPACUserJS only customisations.. there's not much you can't do with those prefs now.
15:58 ashimema Looks like I need a spellchecker in irc.. so many typos in that last message.. :$
16:00 gaetan_B bye !
16:00 cait ashimema: we can read typo
16:00 cait don't worry
16:06 oleonard Oh by the way, I'm not making much headway with the Reno tourism board regarding my suggested new motto: "RENO: Bring lotion!"
16:06 jcamins oleonard: that's because you're not a first-grader.
16:06 cait ?
16:07 jcamins Apparently the motto was the result of a competition for first-graders.
16:08 jcamins Entertaining for lunch is really difficult.
16:08 druthb cait!
16:08 jcamins What do you serve?
16:09 druthb oleonard++ #new Reno slogan
16:09 jcamins I'd make this:[…]pear-chevre-tart/ except that my guest is allergic to onions and shallots.
16:17 * oleonard has never heard of someone being allergic to onions
16:17 jcamins oleonard: neither had I, before I met this person. She and her mother are both allergic.
16:17 jcamins Wait, father.
16:17 oleonard that must be a tough one
16:18 jcamins She's also likely to develop a tomato allergy as she gets older.
16:18 jcamins Ooh, tomatoes.
16:18 wahanui tomatoes are out, as I have none.
16:18 jcamins wahanui: untrue!
16:18 wahanui jcamins: excuse me?
16:18 jcamins I have three pounds!
16:19 oleonard wahanui: tomatoes is <reply> I have three pounds!
16:19 wahanui OK, oleonard.
16:19 jcamins tomatoes
16:19 wahanui I have three pounds!
16:20 oleonard Ah, the simple pleasures in life
16:20 jcamins I really like the tart idea, but what do I put in it to replace the onions?
16:20 ashimema mmm.. tomatoes.
16:21 bag celery?  could that replace onions?
16:22 cait garlic? :)
16:22 cait fennel?
16:22 bag oh fennel is a good idea cait
16:23 bag speaking of food I think I need to go get something to nibble on
16:23 * cait shouldn't have looked at work mail
16:23 jcamins I think maybe celery is the best option.
16:23 cait 16 pages with 100 mails each
16:23 cait eek
16:23 bag yeesh that's a lot of email
16:30 cait @wunder Konstanz
16:30 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 13.7°C (6:30 PM CEST on October 25, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
16:30 cait bag: yeah... looking forward to going into work monday... :)
16:34 cait ok, time to switch back to my other hard drive - wish me luck, i am going to have surgery on the laptop
16:36 oleonard Good luck!
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16:45 busla just wondering about this documentation in Plack
16:46 busla "This instructions assume that your Koha checkout is /srv/koha. If it's in some other location, you have to change /srv/koha to correct folder throughout all scripts below."
16:46 busla my /srv folder is empty
16:46 wahanui i already had it that way, busla.
16:46 busla oops :-)
16:46 busla sorry
16:46 oleonard Ignore wahanui busla, he's a bot
16:47 oleonard busla: Sounds like you'll have to simply replace "/srv/koha" with the actual path to Koha when you run the scripts?
16:48 oleonard I don't know for sure since I don't know that documentation
16:48 jcamins busla: you'll need to replace /srv with the actual location of your Koha installation.
16:48 jcamins Probably /usr/share/koha/
16:49 jcamins And you'll need to modify the paths a bit to make sure that your koha.psgi file points to the right directory for staff client/OPAC.
16:55 busla ahh ok, thanks
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16:55 druthb tcohen!
16:55 wahanui i guess tcohen is obsessed with packages' scripts
16:55 druthb home safe?
17:07 reiveune bye
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17:13 * cait waves again - old hard drive in laptop, all good
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17:17 cait ah rangi in auckland now
17:17 cait almost home too
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17:57 tcohen hi druthb, cait
17:57 tcohen back at work!
17:57 cait hi tcohen :)
17:57 cait not yet, still tidying up :)
17:57 tcohen (just because i wanted, had the day free)
17:57 cait aah
17:57 cait you were keen to get back to koha?
17:58 tcohen indeed!
17:58 cait :)
17:58 tcohen i want to release 3.12.6 soon
17:58 tcohen pre-kohacon13 days and the conference itself got me away from that tasks
17:59 tcohen bernardo was pleased to have news from you druthb and cait
17:59 cait :)
17:59 cait what did you tell him? :)
18:00 tcohen we talked a lot about how kohacon13 went
18:00 tcohen and i told him many of you gongratulated him for his job
18:03 cait which he does greatly :)
18:17 druthb :)
18:46 talljoy o/ druthb how is your car?
18:46 bag yeah druthb that sounded pretty brutal
18:47 * oleonard hopes the leftovers were okay
18:47 talljoy no kidding
18:47 talljoy mmmmm indian food
18:47 talljoy i'm having thai food tonight.  the closest i can get to curry today
18:48 druthb I'm on the donut still, but I'm going this afternoon to a tire shop.  we'll see how expensive it is...
18:48 oleonard mmmmm thai curry
18:48 talljoy panang curry
18:48 talljoy mmmmmm
18:48 bag still debating on what is for dinner tonight - I've got my parents coming into town
18:48 talljoy dude stop harshing my and oleanard's thai buzz
18:48 oleonard :D
18:49 bag well I got the buzz too and was debating on thai for tonight
18:49 talljoy do it!
18:49 talljoy thai!!
18:49 bag I'll be in thailand for christmas and can't wait to have real thai food - which I'm sure they call just plan old "food"
18:50 oleonard That's great bag--vacation?
18:50 bag Actually going to Hong Kong first to play baseball and then vacation in Thailand for Christmas and New Years with Sonja and Ginny
18:50 bag can't wait to have "food" :P
18:51 talljoy lol
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18:51 talljoy i am jealous, fo shiz
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18:51 oleonard Wow that's awesome. My wife and I went to Thailand with our oldest in summer of 2012 and really enjoyed it.
18:52 bag oh cool I am going to ask you some questions in another month or two on where you went and all that
18:52 bag we are just beginning to plan out where and what we want to do
18:52 talljoy unfortunately i always picture bridget jones "edge of reason" and figure i'll end up in a woman's thai prison
18:52 talljoy singing "like a virgin"
18:52 talljoy smoking cigarettes
18:52 bag talljoy: :P
18:52 talljoy heh
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18:53 talljoy oleonard how old is your oldest?
18:53 oleonard She's 10 now
18:53 talljoy i have teen boys, i prefer to not be seen in public with them.
18:53 talljoy the feeling is mutual.
18:53 talljoy :-D
18:53 oleonard :D
18:54 talljoy and they smell
18:54 mtompset greetings, #koha.
18:54 mtompset Such loving, motherly comments, talljoy. ;)
18:54 jcamins talljoy: didn't you say that?
18:54 jcamins Oh, no, you said "teen boys," I just inferred.
18:55 talljoy well, they are mine and i love them dearly.  but they are teen boys.
18:55 talljoy nuf said
18:55 mtompset I think I understand. :)
18:56 bag heh
18:56 mtompset khall: You here?
18:56 mtompset @seen khall
18:56 huginn mtompset: khall was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 25 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <khall> heh, I've been working on those gummy bears!
18:56 khall yo
18:56 druthb I'm of a firm belief that we should nail boys in a barrel when they turn 10, with five years worth of food.  If they live to 18, they can be considered smart enough to be called "human".  If they don't, the gene pool will be protected from them.
18:56 talljoy lol
18:56 jcamins lol
18:56 bag HA
18:57 jcamins I'm not sure how well that would work.
18:57 bag or it could work brillinatly
18:57 bag I wouldn't be here :P
18:57 talljoy oh, i'm sure you would have survived
18:58 druthb :P
18:58 talljoy you is smart
18:58 * talljoy knows who signs her paycheck...
18:58 bag I've fooled you then :D
18:58 talljoy heh
18:58 mtompset druthb: Thunderdome pre-teen boys?
18:58 mtompset Sounds like a Lord of the Flies type experiment.
18:59 druthb Two geeks enter, one geek leaves!
18:59 talljoy cue suspensful music
19:01 mtompset tcohen couldn't take the suspense. ;)
19:02 bag nope
19:09 jcamins cait:
19:09 cait hm?
19:10 cait jcamins: thx for thinking about me
19:10 jcamins Read the reviews.
19:10 cait but I do know how to make ice cubes
19:10 jcamins Actually, everyone should read the reviews.
19:10 jcamins Errr... unless you work in an open plan office.
19:10 jcamins In which case you should do it later.
19:14 talljoy comments are funny!
19:14 oleonard Don't forget the photos
19:14 talljoy My grandma died and took the recipe with her. You are a life saver!
19:15 cait have o sleep i guess
19:15 cait night all
19:15 wahanui goodnight cait. You'll be back.
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19:36 mtompset That wasn't fun.
19:36 * mtompset grumbles about networking issues.
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19:45 oleonard Hi pianohacker
19:49 pianohacker hey oleonard.
19:49 wahanui oleonard is probably not really here.  He said so.  He did!
19:49 pianohacker sure bot
19:51 mtompset Greetings, pianohacker.
19:52 maximep that ice cues recipe is the best thing.
19:53 maximep ever. :p
19:54 jcamins Haha- on page four someone admits to using dehydrated ice cubes.
19:54 jcamins "The instructions are to just add water and put it in the freezer."
19:55 oleonard Hey, a signoff from a KohaCon participant!
19:55 oleonard Bug 10774
19:55 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10774 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Allow individual holds to be suspended and resumed from the OPAC
20:03 oleonard Was there really someone from Plano at KohaCon? I someone on the contact list.
20:04 jcamins There was a contact list?
20:06 oleonard Yeah you didn't get one? I wonder if they ran out before you arrived?
20:07 jcamins Probably. I'll get someone to scan it for me.
20:07 jcamins I was the second-to-last person to arrive, after all.
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20:08 jcamins Or as Nancy for a digital copy, I suppose.
20:08 jcamins *ask
20:08 jcamins It's unlikely it started out in hardcopy.
20:08 * jcamins leaves work early.
20:08 oleonard Digital? Crazy talk.
20:12 bag ohh bug 11096
20:12 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11096 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Koha cannot retreive big records from Zebra
20:12 bag I've got the perfect record in mind for that - gonna go have some fun and see what happens :)
20:13 bag a record with 1700 items attached to it :)
20:14 oleonard Is that a real thing, or a monstrosity someone created out of pure evil?
20:15 bag it's a real thing oleonard
20:15 oleonard Good lord.
20:16 bag I got it to index when it was in the 1500 range but then after that (not sure if it was changes with zebra or koha) but I haven't had luck since it got bigger than that
20:28 pianohacker holy god
20:29 pianohacker bag: how big is that in USMARC/MARC21?
20:29 bag pianohacker: too big :)
20:30 oleonard See y'all later #koha
20:30 bag actually I always felt that the leader just got too damn confused with it.  even though we've stripped the items out now.  But I'm excited to try some of these new changes
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20:52 mtompset 1700 items on a single record?!
20:54 mtompset How can you possibly have 1700 items on a single record?
20:54 mtompset 40 years of weekly magazines?
20:55 bag pretty much - but I think it's biweekly
20:55 bag sorry 2/wk
20:56 mtompset Wow.
20:56 mtompset That's a serious collection!
20:56 bag they have more than one record with that # of high items
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21:07 mtompset By year, I suppose?
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21:35 Joels68 Hello Koha community!
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