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heya tcohen |
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tcohen |
Dallas |
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tcohen |
nice huge airport :-D |
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bag |
yes that's a big airport |
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mtompset |
bag: Are you still here? |
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mtompset |
Oh, 30 minutes... you probably aren't. Oh well. :( |
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eythian |
wahanui: migration toolbox |
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wahanui |
i think migration toolbox is https://www.gitorious.org/koha-toolbox/ |
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eythian |
no wahanui, migration toolbox is https://gitorious.org/koha-migration-toolbox |
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wahanui |
okay, eythian. |
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eythian |
wahanui: csvtomarc |
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wahanui |
the latest version is at https://gitorious.org/+catalys[…]migration-toolbox - improvements welcome |
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eythian |
no wahanui csvtomarc is <reply>the latest version is at https://www.gitorious.org/koha[…]migration-toolbox (in migration/Generic) - improvements welcome. |
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wahanui |
okay, eythian. |
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mtompset |
when you clone a subfield, should the value be copied? |
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eythian |
I'd expect so |
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mtompset |
Shoot. :( That busts the way bug 6874 is done. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , File upload in MARC |
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mtompset |
Greetings, papa. |
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mtompset |
Does it make sense to have a biblio record with multiple URLs? |
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mtompset |
I guess I should sleep on this. Have a great day, #koha. |
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returns to his desk. |
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BobB |
Hi #koha |
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BobB |
Thanks to all our new friends in Washoe County for a great KohaCon and Hackfest |
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johnbljr |
Good afternoon...at least for me.... ;-) |
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hi BobB , johnbljr |
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reiveune |
hello |
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johnbljr |
Wondering is anyone has any good z39.5 libraries that have already cataloged Scholastic books. Having a hard time finding any of the scholastic books for the school that I work at. |
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waves |
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magnuse |
howdy Irma and BobB |
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mtj |
johnbljr, hmm… i know of some school libraries in the pacific. but, i'm not sure if they have public z39 access |
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mtj , any names I can search for in IRSpy? |
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mtj |
johnbljr, a good question for the Koha mailing-list |
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johnbljr |
How do I get to the koha mailing list? |
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johnbljr |
I found it...I will post the question there. |
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mtj |
johnbljr, cool |
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mtj |
i thought ASHS school, in NZ might have z39 access? -- but, i am not sure, sorry... |
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johnbljr |
mtj they are not showing on irspy |
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johnbljr |
no worries though |
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BobB |
hi magnuse |
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johnbljr, I am not sure how well IRSpy is kept up to date |
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johnbljr |
I just searched the mailing list archive and one member says the Access PA library is good for Scholastic books...I will try that. |
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johnbljr |
Access PA and OhioLink seem to be pretty good based on a few searches. |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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magnuse |
bonjour gaetan_B |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on October 24, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.12 in 986 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 17.0°C (9:30 AM CEST on October 24, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising). |
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magnuse |
you win :-) |
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gaetan_B |
@wunder paris |
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huginn |
gaetan_B: Error: No such location could be found. |
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gaetan_B |
O_o |
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kivilahtio |
hey any idea where can i see from which Zebra indexes different searches search. Like when I do a title search in opac-search.pl, i get the following urlopac-search.pl?idx=ti&q=rock |
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gaetan_B |
well, you'll have to take my word for it, but it's warmer in Paris than in bodo magnuse ;) |
| 07:39 |
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kivilahtio |
where is idx=ti defined? From which Zebra indexes those searches are pulled from? |
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kivilahtio |
I already found the koha_to_zebra.xml indexing rules |
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magnuse |
@wunder paris, france |
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kivilahtio |
but where are the search "aggregators" defined? |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Paris-centre, France is 13.6°C (9:40 AM CEST on October 24, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
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magnuse |
gaetan_B: i believe you :-) |
| 07:41 |
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magnuse |
kivilahtio: have you seen http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ng_Zebra_indexing ? |
| 07:42 |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: Yes, looking at it |
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wahanui |
rumour has it looking at it is exactly what I was hoping for. :) |
| 07:43 |
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kivilahtio |
but I have a gut feeling this might be more complex |
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kivilahtio |
no wait here at the end |
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kivilahtio |
lemme see |
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kivilahtio |
What is this for then? biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml |
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kivilahtio |
zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml |
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kivilahtio |
Canthis really honest to god be so simple as this wiki page lets me assume? |
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kivilahtio |
but I can't find no idx=ti from marc_defs/marc21/biblios/record.abs |
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kivilahtio |
I assume it is a shorthand for title |
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kivilahtio |
and somewhere in code there are translation tables for these shorthands? |
| 07:55 |
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kivilahtio |
nevermind I'll dig into the code deep after my breakfast |
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kivilahtio |
sorry for bothering you with a solution I could have solved |
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sophie_m |
kivilahtio: look into ccl.properties, some aliases for indexes are defined there |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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magnuse |
hiya marcelr |
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marcelr |
hi magnuse |
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BobB |
kivilahtio, there are two filters: GRS1 and DOM and you choose one; DOM is now recommended but many installations are still GRS1 |
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BobB |
for GRS1 refer to record.abs; for DOM refer to biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml |
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BobB |
I just learnt that at Koha Hackfest :) |
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magnuse |
yay! |
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kivilahtio |
BobB: great! How do I know which one I have in use? I don't think I remember such a selection during installation? |
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kivilahtio |
BobB: I am using Koha 3.12 |
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kivilahtio |
or I think I am using the latest master currently |
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kivilahtio |
I know I am using the latest master |
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kivilahtio |
but I installed the v3.12 |
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kivilahtio |
Is there any way to automatically fill the Koha Item Type when adding Items? |
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kivilahtio |
There is a SubfieldsToUseWhenPrefill and PrefillItems global preferences |
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kivilahtio |
but I don't think they can help here |
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magnuse |
kivilahtio: i think koha-conf.xml will tell you which mode you are using |
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magnuse |
"automatically fill the Koha Item Type" - in which context? migration of data or manual entry of new records and items? |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: manual entry of new records |
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magnuse |
you can set a default value in the framework |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: hmm, now i see that i didnt set the item type when adding an item and now when i am editing it there is a item type |
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magnuse |
but do you only have items of one type? |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: 3 types, but the default seems to be the first one, the same on as the biblios default item type |
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magnuse |
if you set the itemtype in 942 (is it $c?) it will be carried over to 952 |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: I thought such data is no longer stored in the Zebra DB? |
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kivilahtio |
I mean item related data |
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magnuse |
items were removed from the marcxml and marc fields in the mysql database, but they are indexed by zebra |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: ok, but there are no limitations to serials use regardless, such limitations as in v3.4? |
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magnuse |
limit on the number of items? |
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kivilahtio |
I think there were huge performance issues with lots of serials, but I am seeing such problems as well now that I am adding a ton of serials to the Koha |
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magnuse |
performance was one of the reasons for removing items from marc/marcxml columns |
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kivilahtio |
problems such as Home › Cataloging › Edit (Record #26484) › Items ... where the hundreds of items we have in our library cooperation are just showed in one table |
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magnuse |
but if you have thousands of items connected to one record there might still be surprises, i guess |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: ok, just making sure :) |
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magnuse |
:-) |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: yes there will be, but they are not critical issues, I think we can find a solution to them |
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magnuse |
yay! |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: the situation here is really strange |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: we need to apparently solve national issues with local resources :) |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: crazy! |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: I didn't sign up for that, but lets see what comes out of it :) I am certain something good |
| 09:35 |
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kivilahtio |
just nee to vent stuff out, thanks for helping |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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magnuse |
@quote random |
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huginn |
magnuse: Quote #15: "<|Lupin|>ricardo: you are like the Portuguese Hitchcock!!" (added by wizzyrea at 02:58 PM, July 10, 2009) |
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kivilahtio |
Is there any way to search for a specific serial number? |
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kivilahtio |
If not I am about to start working on that functionality |
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magnuse |
kivilahtio: do you mean like "vol 23 issue 34"? |
| 10:39 |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: yes, I was planning to implement a search to OPAC and staff client where we can search for the volume, number/issue, branch and starting/ending date |
| 10:39 |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: this is because we need to be able to place a hold on a specific item easily |
| 10:40 |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: not sure if there is any sense to it, but I am said it is crucial to server our patrons |
| 10:41 |
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kivilahtio |
so they are interested in vol 2013 : number 12 and want to know if it is available easily |
| 10:41 |
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kivilahtio |
in their home branch |
| 10:41 |
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magnuse |
today you would have to just browse the list of issues to do that, i think |
| 10:41 |
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kivilahtio |
also we need to find a way to make extra notes about issues. One issue could be a christmas extra |
| 10:41 |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: yes |
| 10:42 |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: this is problematic when we have 20 libraries with 12 issues a year for the past 5 years |
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magnuse |
i wonder if that data is sufficiently structured, though |
| 10:42 |
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kivilahtio |
that makes 1200 issues |
| 10:42 |
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kivilahtio |
its great that there are the top n most recent issues already, but if we have lots of branches the views will become totally incomprehensible |
| 10:43 |
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kivilahtio |
I was planning to target the enumeration field |
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magnuse |
if it is just stored as "vol x, issue y" it will be hard to differentiate between e.g. "vol. 4, issue 5" and "vol. 5, issue 4" |
| 10:43 |
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magnuse |
oh well, lunchtime |
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wahanui |
lunchtime is a terrible time for a meeting |
| 10:44 |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: I know, but this is what I aim to provide a solution for |
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kivilahtio |
I think there needs to be some kind of a unified way of labeling the enumeration |
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kivilahtio |
and that label needs to be defined in the global preferences |
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kivilahtio |
but I am more worried about the UI modifications |
| 10:45 |
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kivilahtio |
But I have a solution thanks to javascript and the awesome jQuery you use |
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drojf |
hi #koha |
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kivilahtio |
drojf: hi there |
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wahanui |
que tal, kivilahtio |
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drojf |
is git terribly slow or is it just me? |
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drojf |
hi kivilahtio |
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drojf |
looks like it is the horrible university wifi again |
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kivilahtio |
bug 11129 |
| 11:09 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11129 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Limiting the display of Serial issues OR Searching a specific Serial issue |
| 11:10 |
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kivilahtio |
if I start with this do I waste my time? |
| 11:10 |
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kivilahtio |
or yours? |
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wahanui |
hmmm... yours is better actually |
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kivilahtio |
good boy wahanui |
| 11:11 |
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kivilahtio |
Couldn't find any conflicting bugs in bugzilla |
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jcamins |
kivilahtio: I'm not sure that what you propose is possible at this time. With Zebra you can't search for a part of a record. So a search for "vol. 4, issue 5" will just return the entire record. |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: I know, but I will embed the search filte to opac-detail.pl and Staff client |
| 11:22 |
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jcamins |
Ah. That will not involve Zebra, then. |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: I am not planning to extend Zebra god no! But to make a filter to serials views. |
| 11:23 |
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jcamins |
Got it. |
| 11:23 |
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jcamins |
That makes sense. |
| 11:23 |
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kivilahtio |
Base class package "DBIx::Class::Schema" is empty. |
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kivilahtio |
I got this? |
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kivilahtio |
at http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/[…]members/member.pl |
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jcamins |
You need to install DBIx::Class. |
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kivilahtio |
ok |
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kivilahtio |
why I didnät figure it out immediately :) |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: Thanks for the review! |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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kivilahtio |
greetings mtompset |
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mtompset |
Greetings, kivilahtio. |
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kivilahtio |
mtompset: A guestion if you may? |
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mtompset |
Perhaps, but I never guarantee answers. :) |
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kivilahtio |
mtompset: How do you manage quickly circulating items? |
| 11:44 |
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kivilahtio |
mtompset: we have a new book and we need to limit its circulation period so everybody can have their share |
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kivilahtio |
mtompset: Isn't there a functionality which allows the check-out period to change based on the amount of holds placed? |
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kivilahtio |
can you somehow set a book to circulate faster? and then revert back to normal circulation speed |
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mtompset |
kivilahtio: Have you tried reading the manual? Because, to be honest, I don't know the answer. |
| 11:47 |
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jwagner |
kivilahtio, why not give it an item type with a short circ rule? Then change item type to a more normal one once the first demand is past |
| 11:47 |
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jwagner |
i.e., NEWBOOK with one week loan period, vs BOOK with three week loan period |
| 11:49 |
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kivilahtio |
jwagner: we would need a quickly circulating item type for each item type we have and that is a pain regarding all the views where itemtypes are dealt with |
| 11:49 |
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kivilahtio |
jwagner: but I was thinking about having just one quick circulating item type |
| 11:49 |
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jwagner |
that would work |
| 11:49 |
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kivilahtio |
we could run the reports and statistics based on the bibliographic records koha default item type |
| 11:50 |
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kivilahtio |
I don't think we have a need to have the biblio in differnt item type than its items |
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mtompset |
http://manual.koha-community.o[…]/en/patscirc.html |
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mtompset |
changing the checkout-period based on the number of holds sounds like a potentially useful feature. |
| 11:53 |
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kivilahtio |
mtompset: I think it was already in Koha? |
| 11:53 |
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kivilahtio |
mtompset: Or maybe i mix it up |
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jcamins |
kivilahtio: setting item type at biblio level or item level is an either/or proposition. You can't set the item type at both levels, and have both settings have an impact. |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: if we configure our system preference to use the item's itemtype to deal with circulation rules |
| 11:54 |
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kivilahtio |
then it should work, while still retaining a trace of the item's original itemtype in the bibliographic record |
| 11:54 |
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jcamins |
In that case, bib-level item type has no impact. |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: yes, but we can still target it in reports if we want to know if our quick circulating items are books or dvdäs? |
| 11:54 |
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jcamins |
bug 7751 |
| 11:54 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7751 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, CLOSED FIXED, Decrease loan period on items with a high number of holds |
| 11:55 |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: I think there is no way to add items to a list? |
| 11:57 |
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kivilahtio |
only Biblios? |
| 11:57 |
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jcamins |
What do you mean? |
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jcamins |
The reports module is just SQL. |
| 11:58 |
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kivilahtio |
There are lists in Koha, to make colelctions of Bibliographic records |
| 11:58 |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
| 11:58 |
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kivilahtio |
and you can merge biblios |
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jcamins |
That is correct. They are bib-level. |
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kivilahtio |
but we would like to have rotating collections |
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kivilahtio |
so add items to a list and set this list as a rotating collection |
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jcamins |
There was a rotating collection feature in Koha. |
| 11:59 |
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kivilahtio |
then set the home location of items to other library |
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jcamins |
I think it may still be there, it's just disabled due to bugs. |
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kivilahtio |
I think all we would need is to have a list for items |
| 11:59 |
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kivilahtio |
we can batch edit items, shouldn't be a biggie to extend lists to contain items as well |
| 11:59 |
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kivilahtio |
or maybe it is |
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jcamins |
I'm not sure of that. |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: I understand |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: thanks for your help |
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jcamins |
You're welcome. |
| 12:01 |
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jcamins |
There's also... floating collections. |
| 12:01 |
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jcamins |
That might do what you want. |
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jcamins |
Just ship the books to the new library and check them all in to change the location. |
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jcamins |
I think. |
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kivilahtio |
we are looking into flaoting collections |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: And we think that you choose the whole Koha installation to use floating items or not |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: we didn't figure out a way to have only certain items float |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: If we are wrong, I would be more than happy! |
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jcamins |
It's by item type, I think. |
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jcamins |
Or maybe collection code. |
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kivilahtio |
I think you have to choose, hmm let me see |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: but is this a system preference? or a circulation rule? |
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jcamins |
System preference, I think. |
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jcamins |
I'm not actually sure, though. |
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jcamins |
I don't use floating collections. |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: I think it is what we think then :) because it is a system preference to set how material returns after being checked in |
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drojf |
why do i get a gazillion merge problems when i try of update master? there is no patch of me in there |
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drojf |
hm. looks like i seriously broke something |
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magnuse |
kivilahtio: bug 8836 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8836 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Resurrect Rotating Collections |
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magnuse |
kia ora oleonard |
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oleonard |
Hi magnuse and all in #koha |
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* oleonard |
is back in his regular chair |
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magnuse |
welcome back oleonard :-) |
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mtompset |
Were you in an electric one before, oleonard? ;) |
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oleonard |
Flying chairs, desert chairs, bus chairs. Many chairs. |
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mtompset |
Putting on driving hat. |
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mtompset |
Have a great day, #koha. |
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magnuse |
have fun mtompset |
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* magnuse |
is reminded of bug 10117 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10117 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Byte Order Mark breaks Patron Import |
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oleonard |
Hi druthb |
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druthb |
hi, oleonard! :) |
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kivilahtio |
magnuse: Thanks for the link! Very precious! |
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oleonard |
I guess my co-workers weren't too busy while I was gone: http://i.imgur.com/Uu5JJxW.jpg |
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kivilahtio |
Is that toilet paper? |
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magnuse |
oleonard: that's your desk? |
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magnuse |
lol! |
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oleonard |
Yes and yes. |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: maybe they are worried about your health? |
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* druthb |
chuckles. |
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magnuse |
you should teach them to sign off koha patches instead :-) |
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druthb |
magnuse++ |
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oleonard |
I don't know if you can read it, but the sign on the door says "Toilet Supplies Annex" |
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magnuse |
tee hee |
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druthb |
My asoke scarf made it to my office today. I have a large stuffed feline on a high shelf; it is draped over the critter's midsection. :) |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: I like your colleagues. |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: I would just hide your mouse |
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kivilahtio |
If I had a form in Koha, could I use the HTML5 <input type="number"> ? |
| 13:25 |
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kivilahtio |
I am a bit worried about how the checks localize to any language |
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kivilahtio |
don't wanna make javascript checks |
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oleonard |
We do use an HTML5 doctype. The type attribute degrades gracefully in non-HTML5 browsers? |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: absolutely no idea. Long time since I last did web development |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: but it doesnt seem to respect the maxlenght attribute |
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oleonard |
Decent support except for Firefox for some reason: http://caniuse.com/#feat=input-number |
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oleonard |
kivilahtio: What are you trying to do? |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: bug 11129, validate user inputting integers |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11129 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Limiting the display of Serial issues OR Searching a specific Serial issue |
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kivilahtio |
do we still need to define id and name for html elements? |
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kivilahtio |
is IE still breaking my balls? |
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oleonard |
kivilahtio: The staff client already globally includes a validation plugin you can use |
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kivilahtio |
i am working in staff client and OPAC |
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kivilahtio |
opac-detail.tt/pl mainly |
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kivilahtio |
prolly will have to propagate filters up to C4 modules |
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oleonard |
having a server-side layer of validation is always best |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: both is best :) |
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oleonard |
Hi tcohen, are you back home? |
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tcohen |
hi oleonard, in chile, a couple more hours until i get to cordoba |
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tcohen |
how are you? |
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oleonard |
I'm fine, thanks. Nothing bad to report about my trip home. |
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tcohen |
:-D |
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kivilahtio |
tcohen: wow, chile must be awesome! |
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tcohen |
yeah, the airport has some wide sits where u can have a nice nap |
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druthb |
tcohen: It was lovely getting to meet you in Reno! |
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tcohen |
hi druthb |
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tcohen |
the same feeling here |
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tcohen |
:D |
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tcohen |
druthb: your granola is awesome btw |
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* oleonard |
likes having more faces and voices to go with the IRC nicks |
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druthb |
Thanks! I make those snack bars all the time, and am always changing up which fruits and nuts are in it. That mix was particularly tasty. |
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tcohen |
cait recommended me to take them, I didn't know they were your's |
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druthb |
I brought them to share. :) |
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tcohen |
sleepy tcohen givin' thanks to druthb: http://snag.gy/cYK3N.jpg |
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druthb |
aw! *hug* |
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oleonard |
:) |
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druthb |
That batch had almonds, walnuts, sunflower seeds, some pistachio, and dried apples, prunes, and cherries, with just a splash of orange juice to get it to bind up for baking. Turned out chewier than I normally like 'em, but it worked out. |
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oleonard |
I should know this, but how does one turn on debug, as in "$debug && warn ..." |
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tcohen |
its great druthb |
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druthb |
:) |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Quote #19: "<chris> i just want to yell things like don't kick the ball, pass it and Feed the backs" (added by jdavidb at 12:11 PM, July 27, 2009) |
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gmcharlt |
oleonard: SetEnv DEBUG 1 in the apache config is one way |
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oleonard |
Thanks gmcharlt |
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oleonard |
Oh and by the way gmcharlt, I actually disagree with Bug 11057's suggestion that the language chooser should be always visible |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11057 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Bootstrap theme: Don't hide language chooser below the fold |
| 14:46 |
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oleonard |
I'm thinking about an alternate solution that would be more mobile-friendly |
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gmcharlt |
the main oddity I see is that no matter how you resize the window, one must always scroll down to see it |
| 14:47 |
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gmcharlt |
what alternative do you have in mind? |
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oleonard |
maybe something like this: http://www.screencast.com/t/UFhTZxKhnQ |
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gmcharlt |
in the header? looks good to me, though I don't know if an iconic tools menu is visible enough |
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oleonard |
Yeah I agree |
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tcohen |
icu? |
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wahanui |
well, icu is a good idea. |
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tcohen |
icu? |
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wahanui |
icu is a good idea. |
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oleonard |
Better than Facebook's method, where once you're logged in the language choice is in a footer that always jumps out of reach when the page auto-loads more results :P |
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gmcharlt |
heh |
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tcohen |
does anyone have a link to the ICU setup wiki? i'd like to do what is needed to get it working on packages |
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gmcharlt |
tcohen: looking |
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kivilahtio |
Hi again! |
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kivilahtio |
I need to make a dropdown form, any guidelines regarding showing content based on a button click? |
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kivilahtio |
I don't remember those being used anywhere in Koha |
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kivilahtio |
I havea button I click, and then a form appears under the button. |
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gmcharlt |
tcohen: hmm, not on the wiki -- this is the closest I've found |
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gmcharlt |
http://kohageek.blogspot.com/ |
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oleonard |
kivilahtio: Please provide more details. What is the situation? |
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tcohen |
thanks gmcharlt |
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gmcharlt |
or more specifically, http://kohageek.blogspot.com/2[…]r-regional_2.html |
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gmcharlt |
upshot, I think, is that copies of all of the relevant files should be added to Koha's source tree |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: wow http://193.65.112.189/cgi-bin/[…]lterIssues=Submit# |
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kivilahtio |
under Holdings(30) -> Limit issues, a to be button, not yet styled |
| 14:57 |
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kivilahtio |
there is a form which needs obviously to be hidden when not needed |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: just looking into jQueryUI documentation, never used that |
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oleonard |
If all you want to do is show and hide that form you shouldn't need jQueryUI |
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oleonard |
Take a look at members/notices.tt for a fairly simple example of showing and hiding content using jQuery |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: I could use display : none -> block and position: absolute |
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kivilahtio |
but I was more worried about aligning my design with the Koha UI design principles |
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kivilahtio |
and having a nice animation is a bonus |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: so I was curious should I use some specific fade effect as is present in some UI elements in the OPAC |
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kivilahtio |
or maybe it is Mozillla |
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tcohen |
gmcharlt: that's correct, but we also need to tweak some files I guess |
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oleonard |
What fade effects are you thinking of kivilahtio? |
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gmcharlt |
tcohen: agreed; we'll need to lean on current ICU users to describe whatever tweaks they use from the configs that ship with Zebra |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: nothing obtrusive, just asking are there any styling guidelines. But I'll hack something up and then let's see what happens |
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jenkins_koha |
Nicole C. Engard: add AllowOfflineCirculation |
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tcohen |
gmcharlt: so people are effectively using ICU but it is not properly documented, we need to fix that too |
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gmcharlt |
tcohen: agreeed |
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tcohen |
i volunteer of course, but i need some information source |
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tcohen |
kf / cait was the first to ask me for ICU in packages so I'll contact her first |
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oleonard |
Call the casino floor, she may be putting her last dollar into a slot machine right now |
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tcohen |
@heh |
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huginn |
tcohen: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
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tcohen |
oleonard++ |
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bag |
HA |
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bag |
anybody have a clue what day it is? |
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oleonard |
I know right? |
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gmcharlt |
bag: Friday. why do you ask? |
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oleonard |
:D |
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bag |
:P |
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jcamins |
tcohen: I just use the ICU configuration that comes with Koha. |
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tcohen |
so i should perform a standard install and mimick what it does, in the packages |
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jcamins |
It works fine for me, though Martin can demonstrate search not working without the patch that adds icu-phrases.xml. |
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bag |
I have been fighting with FedEx the last two days trying to get a package delivered - I wish they had apt-get deliver |
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gmcharlt |
right, putting in phrase config appears to be required |
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tcohen |
heh |
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gmcharlt |
I'm not personally sure about the rest that folks have been grabbing from what ships with Zebra |
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tcohen |
ok, once i get to cordoba i'll take a look, now i'll try to get something to eat :-D |
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tcohen |
byeeee |
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oleonard |
Safe travels tcohen |
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bag |
wow tcohen still in route home? |
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bag |
long trip |
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jenkins_koha |
Nicole C. Engard: add new offline circ |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: now I have something to show http://193.65.112.189/cgi-bin/[…]lterIssues=Submit |
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kivilahtio |
I need to recolor the button but otherwise this is what i meant |
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oleonard |
I wouldn't style the link in any special way. I think a plain link would be most consistent |
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kivilahtio |
my jQuery is a bit rusty :) |
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kivilahtio |
but I remember the times I was a real jQuery Ninja ;) |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: you think users realize they can click the link? |
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kivilahtio |
if it it just white-gray? |
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kivilahtio |
but I agree it stands out and looks lonely |
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oleonard |
I think they'll know they can click it if it looks like a link :) |
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oleonard |
Why would it be white-gray? |
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kivilahtio |
blue stands out oo much, it is really disturbing regarding hte contrast |
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jcamins |
kivilahtio: interesting. I'm not sure I like the way it covers the item table. |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: good point, it actually covers it for non-javascript users :) |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: better suggestions where to put it? |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: it is strictly related to the Holdings-tab |
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oleonard |
kivilahtio: Why not simply have it push the table down when it appears? |
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kivilahtio |
I could js it on the right side |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: well... |
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oleonard |
Don't do any positioning |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: good point |
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kivilahtio |
maybe i just like to make extra complex stuff with jQuery |
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kivilahtio |
so justa plain link? |
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oleonard |
That's what I would do. |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: I think you are right |
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kivilahtio |
I think I need to get back to gimp and see what might be the best solutino |
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jcamins |
I'd prefer pushing it down. |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: ok |
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oleonard |
kivilahtio: Should that form work? Or is it just a test of the markup? |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: not yet, the parameters are caught and validated but nothing happens on the server side yet |
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jcamins |
kivilahtio: how exactly will that work? Does it require enumchron to be entered in a special way? |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: I will make a loose regexp to catch the first and second digits |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: I will make a loose regexp to catch the first and second integers |
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kivilahtio |
so basically it should work with things like Vol 2013, No 11 || 2013 :11 || Volume 2013 : Number 6 |
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kivilahtio |
not Number 6 volume 2013 |
| 16:21 |
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kivilahtio |
I am not sure if anybody uses other notations, but suggestions are welcome |
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kivilahtio |
but i was planning to make a system preference where you can define in which order these integers appear |
| 16:22 |
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kivilahtio |
quite frankly not sure how to deal with Volume, Number, Issue as we only use Volume : Number |
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kivilahtio |
strictly only 2013 : 11 |
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kivilahtio |
it would be nice to hear what kind of use cases you suspect for enumchron? |
| 16:22 |
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kivilahtio |
they cant be too crazy |
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jcamins |
kivilahtio: we have a saying here on #koha. |
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jcamins |
@quote 123 |
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wahanui |
@quote get 123 |
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huginn |
jcamins: downloading the Perl source |
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huginn |
wahanui: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
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wahanui |
...but quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is <reply>... |
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kivilahtio |
bt then again if I use a system preference as a regexp then each library can define it their way |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: you think this is mad? |
| 16:24 |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: I think it is doable |
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jcamins |
I think that there will be even crazier ways of formatting enumchron. |
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jcamins |
But I don't know what they are. |
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jcamins |
... which is really what makes them crazy. |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: I understand. I think i will put a regexp to the system preferences so each library can define their own standard of defining the enumchron |
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jcamins |
:) |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: It's not a biggie |
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jcamins |
Yeah, it seems like a reasonable idea. But "they can't be too crazy" is a very dangerous thing to say, when you're talking about libraries. |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: I will note that |
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gaetan_B |
bye ! |
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gmcharlt |
question for the world: preferences on '-" vs. '!' for the negation operator for QueryParser queries? |
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bag |
no preference here |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: I believe EG uses both. |
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bag |
oh +1 for both |
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druthb |
+1 for both! |
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druthb |
intuitive-ness++ |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: oleonard: well here are the options, I think you are right, but I think the link needs something more to hint the user to clikc it |
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oleonard |
If something looks like a link, kivilahtio, users will know they can click it. |
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* druthb |
doesn't click oleonard, becuase he doesn't much look like Link: http://www.zeldawiki.org/File:ST_Link_3.png |
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bag |
wait oleonard does look like that druthb |
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oleonard |
If you haven't been to KohaCon you have no idea which is true. |
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kivilahtio |
I havent but now I wish had ;) |
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druthb |
naah. oleonard doesn't have a sword in his hand, and an angry yell. He smiles a lot. Also darker hair. |
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jcamins |
kivilahtio: oleonard has feet, so I have to agree with druthb. |
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druthb |
jcamins++ |
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jcamins |
Or, at least, if he doesn't have feet, he hides it well. |
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* oleonard |
is glad jcamins noticed |
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kivilahtio |
Arent you afraid that your SQL is so exposed? like with C4::Items::GetItemsInfo() ? |
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jcamins |
kivilahtio: nah, oleonard wasn't carrying a sword so it's nothing to worry about. :) |
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kivilahtio |
I thought I had to push my filters through multiple functions, but it is nice to have the SQL just one function call away from the UI |
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jcamins |
kivilahtio: you still need to sanitize user input. |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: You think if I put mangeld SQL dates to DB it breaks? |
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kivilahtio |
doesn't prepare statements sanitize it for me? |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: I think I skipped my SQL lessons regarding sanitation but is it total idiocy to suggest that one could just put unsanitized variables to a SQL prepared statement? |
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kivilahtio |
isn't that what the preapred statement is for? |
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jcamins |
kivilahtio: to some extent, but if you want to make sure that you'll get results if the input is invalid, you need to handle that case. |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: ok, phew, validating date is a pain :( |
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jcamins |
Like if you want to translate non-numeric input to always be equal to one, so that SELECT * FROM table WHERE field < 'fish'; works, you'll need to coerce fish into an integer equal to one. |
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oleonard |
Only one with divine powers can coerce 'fish' to be equal to more than one. |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: is this because you don't want errors in your MySQL log? |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard++ |
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jcamins |
kivilahtio: no, because you want to have results if you don't get any data. |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: how about just cancelling the search if parameters are incorrect. If you try to mimic correct behaviour with incorrect parameters... that sounds like a ticket to hard-to-debug -problems |
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kivilahtio |
but now I just said I should validat ALL input :) |
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kivilahtio |
are there any validators in OPAC? |
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oleonard |
No built-in client side JS validator, no. |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: but in the C4-modules? |
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kivilahtio |
oleonard: you said in staff client there are validators. IN the business layer? |
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* oleonard |
doesn't know about that |
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kivilahtio |
but there generally don't seem to be many validators in the OPAC's .pl scripts. Should I call it the Controller layer? |
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kivilahtio |
like placerequest.pl just accepts anything and asks no questions. And there are a lot of parameters |
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jcamins |
kivilahtio: right, exactly. I was trying to provide an example of where not having any results for invalid data is the opposite of the expected behavior. |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: okey dokey |
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kivilahtio |
so there are no validator functions in C4? |
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kivilahtio |
just making sure before I go and program some |
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mtompset |
C4::Accounts is gone now? |
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mtompset |
Okay. |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #182 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 2 days 10 hr ago) |
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kivilahtio |
I asked what is the deal with C4:: and Koha:: I understood C4 is legacy and Koha is the new OO way to go |
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kivilahtio |
I presume someone is in process of rewriting C4 to Koha? |
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jcamins |
kivilahtio: not in any organized way. |
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kivilahtio |
So my modifications to C4 will become obsolete in some time? |
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jcamins |
Only if someone implements the same thing in Koha::. |
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kivilahtio |
jcamins: ok. So basically totally new functionality should go to Koha:: |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11123: remove two unused routines from C4::Accounts <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1bc77db4e3c229eb0> |
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jcamins |
Yup. |
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jenkins_koha |
Project master_maria build #182: STILL UNSTABLE in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master_maria/182/ |
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jenkins_koha |
Jonathan Druart: Bug 11123: remove two unused routines from C4::Accounts |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11123 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , 2 routines are unused in C4::Account |
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reiveune |
bye |
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khall |
MyISAM vs InnoDB for action_logs? If you've got an opinion, please let me know! http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11136 |
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huginn |
Bug 11136: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , action_logs should be a MyISAM table, not InnoDB |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1476: SUCCESS in 1 hr 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1476/ |
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jenkins_koha |
Jonathan Druart: Bug 11123: remove two unused routines from C4::Accounts |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11123 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , 2 routines are unused in C4::Account |
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jenkins_koha |
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jenkins_koha |
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jenkins_koha |
Nicole C. Engard: update csv profiles |
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jcamins |
khall: aria. |
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jcamins |
Supposed to be way less corruption-prone. |
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jcamins |
Having never had a catastrophic failure while using aria I can't confirm that from first-hand experience, though. |
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oleonard |
Bye #koha. If you need me I'll be waiting by the elevator wondering what to have for dinner. |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #386 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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jenkins_koha |
Nicole C. Engard: add item type check in alerts |
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nengard |
is the Koha site down? |
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nengard |
My internet is so wonky here I can't ever tell what's me and what's really down |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #387 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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jenkins_koha |
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jenkins_koha |
Nicole C. Engard: add WhenLostForgiveFine |
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rambutan |
koha-community.org is down down down |
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gmcharlt |
it's back, now |
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* cait-m_ |
waves |
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rambutan |
waves |
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cait-m_ |
in slc now |
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cait-m_ |
wsiting for flight to paris |
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rambutan |
hoping you fly friendly skies |
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cait-m_ |
thx |
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cait-m_ |
sad to leave |
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cait-m_ |
i had a nice first visit to the US |
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rambutan |
good |
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rambutan |
Profound statement of the week: I think there should be a (scholarly) Open-Source ILS Journal |
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rambutan |
I'm reading "Computers in Libraries" and it's all proprietary-ILS centric |
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jcamins |
Not to be crass (okay, maybe), but don't you think such a journal would just turn into navel-gazing? |
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cait-m_ |
yesh and when writing about koha they dony get it right :( |
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rambutan |
suppose there's enough potential material out there covering EG, Koha, DSpace, etc, to support a quarterly publication |
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rambutan |
jcamins: question has merit and requires serious thought. Will give it consideration |
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jcamins |
I am not opposed to the idea, but I feel like academic publishing tends to be kind of navel-gazing-y anyway, and a special interest journal would tend to make that more rather than less true. |
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jcamins |
At least, that's my take. |
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busla |
hey all! Just finished the Debian install on a RasPi .. anyone have a clue what the URL is for the web-installation? |
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busla |
can´t find it in any docs |
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busla |
and sites-enabled doesn´t point to any root_dir |
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jcamins |
127.0.0.1 |
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jcamins |
(or rPi external IP) |
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busla |
right.. |
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rambutan |
Still reflecting, but such a journal would need to be weighted towards how OS ILSs actually promote world peace, and not focus in the latest patch to zebrasort.pl |
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busla |
should delete the default index.html in the apache root |
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busla |
? |
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jcamins |
busla: no, but if you're not using DNS you may want to disable the default site and change the intranet port to 8080. |
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busla |
ahh |
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busla |
ok |
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busla |
:) |
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busla |
thanks |
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jcamins |
Personally, I recommend avahi. |
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busla |
avahi ? |
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wahanui |
i think avahi is kind of amazing. |
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jcamins |
It really is. |
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jcamins |
It does the local DNS thing that I've forgotten the name of. |
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busla |
found it |
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jcamins |
So http://raspberrypi.local./ works. |
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jcamins |
If you set it up to do so. |
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busla |
https://wiki.debian.org/ZeroConf ? |
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jcamins |
That's it. |
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jcamins |
It's useful because you can use it for making name based virtual hosts work. |
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busla |
trying it out |
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busla |
:) |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #388 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_Docs build #388: SUCCESS in 11 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/388/ |
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jenkins_koha |
Nicole C. Engard: add image to overdrive prefs |
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jcamins |
Wait, I just remembered something. |
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jcamins |
Never mind. The instructions are on port 80. |
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busla |
woops.. avahi giving me alot of erros |
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busla |
*error |
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busla |
s |
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busla |
going for the other option |
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busla |
damn.. would be great to package Koha as a RasPi distribution :-) |
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busla |
weird ... default user and pass not working in the web installer |
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busla |
well, the values in the xml file |
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jcamins |
Are you sure it's not just slow? |
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busla |
well, it´s not loading and the form was cleared by the browser |
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jcamins |
The values in the XML file work are the only ones that will work for the webinstaller. |
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busla |
no error message though |
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busla |
right |
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jcamins |
If it actually didn't work, you would've gotten a web browser. |
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jcamins |
Some weird redirect? |
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busla |
I´m doing this over lan |
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busla |
added Listen 8080 in ports.conf |
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busla |
and my library name in /etc/hosts |
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busla |
pretty basic |
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busla |
on the remote computer ofcourse |
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busla |
I have login credentials for "authorityserver" and "publicserver" |
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jcamins |
Wrong credentials. |
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jcamins |
At the bottom are the user name and password for Koha. |
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busla |
ohh .. thought it was the mysql credentials |
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jcamins |
It is, but the authorityserver and publicserver bits are for Zebra. |
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jcamins |
You want the koha_mylibrary user name and its related password. |
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busla |
ahh |
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busla |
:) |
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busla |
thanks |
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busla |
working |
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busla |
I´ll look at this Wiki tomorrow... it´s time for an update: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_a_Raspberry_Pi |
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peggy |
Hi. I've installed Debian and apache2 and mysql and koha-common. But when I go to http://kohaadmin it can't find the server. Any suggestions? |
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busla |
what´s your setup? |
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peggy |
I'm on an old dell laptop - wiped clean. Fresh install of everything |
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peggy |
What else do you want to know? |
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jcamins |
peggy: you need to replace kohaadmin with the URL for your staff client. |
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peggy |
As far as I know that IS the URL for my staff client. |
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peggy |
? |
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busla |
.. and edit /etc/hosts I assume ? |
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busla |
or 127.0.0.1 |
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jcamins |
busla: right, the URL has to be set up. |
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peggy |
Ah. I seem to remember something about adding the name... |
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busla |
peggy: have you reached the webinstaller? |
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peggy |
Currently has "localhost at 127.0.0.1 and thrasher.thrasher.org at 127.0.1.1 |
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peggy |
No, no web installer yet. |
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busla |
ahh ok |
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peggy |
So I need kohaadmin at 127.0.0.? can I use 1 again? |
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busla |
just try it |
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peggy |
Magic! |
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busla |
but I suggest adding "Listen 8080" in /etc/apache2/ports.conf |
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busla |
ok |
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busla |
to get to the admin interface |
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busla |
since it´s listening on that port |
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peggy |
Now I'm at the web installer. |
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busla |
ahh ok |
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peggy |
I need to add an entry for the OPAC, too. same IP? |
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busla |
well... if you were online 15 minutes ago, I suggest you take a look at the conversation I had with jcamins |
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jcamins |
logs? |
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busla |
I just went through this process |
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wahanui |
logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/ |
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jcamins |
peggy: yep, same deal. |
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peggy |
I shall do that! Great. Thanks so much. |
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busla |
it´s pretty slow on the RasPI |
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busla |
logging in takes around 20 seks |
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jcamins |
busla: yeah, you really need Plack to make it usable. |
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jcamins |
plack? |
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wahanui |
Plack is a FastCGI thingy that works with Koha. See http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack for more information. |
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eythian |
hi |
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busla |
right.. thanks, will have a look |
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busla |
so excited about this |
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busla |
:) |
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jcamins |
eythian: how do you take pictures of things on your phone? |
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wizzyrea |
like screenshots? |
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jcamins |
Yeah. |
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eythian |
jcamins: power+vol down |
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wizzyrea |
volume down and power button at the same time |
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jcamins |
Cool. |
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jcamins |
I had no idea. |
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wizzyrea |
jinx. ;) |
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gmcharlt |
but the real talent is this ... choosing /what/ to take a screenshot of ;) |
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eythian |
:D |
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wizzyrea |
:D |
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peggy |
Question: I have a git directory that contains my source, and I just installed a new instance of Koha. How can I tell the new Koha instance to use the source in my git directory? |
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eythian |
peggy: you have a package installation? |
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eythian |
if so: |
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eythian |
wahanui: gitify |
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wahanui |
rumour has it gitify is at https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify |
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peggy |
I used gitify with rangi at the hackfest. But I had to reinstall and need to point to that source? |
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wizzyrea |
koha-gitify new-instance-name |
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wizzyrea |
from your gitify directory |
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cjh |
wizzyrea: you will also need to specify the path |
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wizzyrea |
oh right and the path to your git clone |
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cjh |
drats I thought I had a readme, need to add one. |
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wizzyrea |
running it without any arguments should give help |
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peggy |
Command not found for koha-gitify. Maybe because I created the gitify directory with my previous debian installation. |
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cjh |
you will probably have to run it as ./koha-gitify |
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peggy |
Yup. |
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wizzyrea |
if all else fails just re-clone it |
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peggy |
Yes!! it works. |
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peggy |
Thanks so much. |
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wizzyrea |
:) yw |
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pastebot |
"wizzyrea" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "gitify instructions" (120 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/250 |
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wizzyrea |
because I had already started and stuff. |
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peggy |
Thanks for the info. I'm off to fix my first bug! |
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wizzyrea |
sweeet |
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gmcharlt |
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