Time  Nick         Message
00:20 bag          heya tcohen
00:26 tcohen       Dallas
00:26 tcohen       nice huge airport :-D
00:28 bag          yes that's a big airport
00:29 tcohen       Terminal D is fresh and comfortable
01:05 mtompset     bag: Are you still here?
01:06 mtompset     Oh, 30 minutes... you probably aren't. Oh well. :(
01:30 eythian      wahanui: migration toolbox
01:30 wahanui      i think migration toolbox is https://www.gitorious.org/koha-toolbox/
01:32 eythian      no wahanui, migration toolbox is https://gitorious.org/koha-migration-toolbox
01:32 wahanui      okay, eythian.
01:42 eythian      wahanui: csvtomarc
01:42 wahanui      the latest version is at https://gitorious.org/+catalyst-koha/catalyst-koha-migration-toolbox - improvements welcome
01:44 eythian      no wahanui csvtomarc is <reply>the latest version is at https://www.gitorious.org/koha-migration-toolbox/koha-migration-toolbox (in migration/Generic) - improvements welcome.
01:44 wahanui      okay, eythian.
04:02 mtompset     when you clone a subfield, should the value be copied?
04:02 eythian      I'd expect so
04:19 mtompset     Shoot. :( That busts the way bug 6874 is done.
04:19 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , File upload in MARC
04:27 mtompset     Greetings, papa.
04:35 mtompset     Does it make sense to have a biblio record with multiple URLs?
04:38 mtompset     I guess I should sleep on this. Have a great day, #koha.
06:00 * BobB       returns to his desk.
06:00 BobB         Hi #koha
06:00 BobB         Thanks to all our new friends in Washoe County for a great KohaCon and Hackfest
06:31 johnbljr     Good afternoon...at least for me.... ;-)
06:35 mtj          hi BobB , johnbljr
06:37 reiveune     hello
06:37 johnbljr     Wondering is anyone has any good z39.5 libraries that have already cataloged Scholastic books. Having a hard time finding any of the scholastic books for the school that I work at.
06:44 * magnuse    waves
06:45 magnuse      howdy Irma and BobB
06:47 mtj          johnbljr, hmm… i know of some school libraries in the pacific. but, i'm not sure if they have public z39 access
06:48 johnbljr     mtj , any names I can search for in IRSpy?
06:48 mtj          johnbljr, a good question for the Koha mailing-list
06:49 johnbljr     How do I get to the koha mailing list?
06:50 johnbljr     I found it...I will post the question there.
06:53 mtj          johnbljr, cool
06:53 mtj          i thought ASHS school, in NZ might have z39 access?  -- but, i am not sure, sorry...
06:57 johnbljr     mtj they are not showing on irspy
06:57 johnbljr     no worries though
07:00 BobB         hi magnuse
07:01 BobB         johnbljr, I am not sure how well IRSpy is kept up to date
07:02 johnbljr     I just searched the mailing list archive and one member says the Access PA library is good for Scholastic books...I will try that.
07:05 johnbljr     Access PA and OhioLink seem to be pretty good based on a few searches.
07:25 gaetan_B     hello
07:37 magnuse      bonjour gaetan_B
07:37 magnuse      @wunder boo
07:37 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on October 24, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.12 in 986 hPa (Steady).
07:37 magnuse      @wunder marseille
07:37 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 17.0°C (9:30 AM CEST on October 24, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
07:37 magnuse      you win :-)
07:38 gaetan_B     @wunder paris
07:38 huginn       gaetan_B: Error: No such location could be found.
07:38 gaetan_B     O_o
07:38 kivilahtio   hey any idea where can i see from which Zebra indexes different searches search. Like when I do a title search in opac-search.pl, i get the following urlopac-search.pl?idx=ti&q=rock
07:38 gaetan_B     well, you'll have to take my word for it, but it's warmer in Paris than in bodo magnuse ;)
07:39 kivilahtio   where is idx=ti defined? From which Zebra indexes those searches are pulled from?
07:40 kivilahtio   I already found the koha_to_zebra.xml indexing rules
07:40 magnuse      @wunder paris, france
07:40 kivilahtio   but where are the search "aggregators" defined?
07:40 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Paris-centre, France is 13.6°C (9:40 AM CEST on October 24, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
07:40 magnuse      gaetan_B: i believe you :-)
07:41 magnuse      kivilahtio: have you seen http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Understanding_Zebra_indexing ?
07:42 kivilahtio   magnuse: Yes, looking at it
07:42 wahanui      rumour has it looking at it is exactly what I was hoping for. :)
07:43 kivilahtio   but I have a gut feeling this might be more complex
07:43 kivilahtio   no wait here at the end
07:43 kivilahtio   lemme see
07:45 kivilahtio   What is this for then? biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml
07:45 kivilahtio   zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml
07:45 kivilahtio   Canthis really honest to god be so simple as this wiki page lets me assume?
07:49 kivilahtio   but I can't find no idx=ti from marc_defs/marc21/biblios/record.abs
07:49 kivilahtio   I assume it is a shorthand for title
07:49 kivilahtio   and somewhere in code there are translation tables for these shorthands?
07:55 kivilahtio   nevermind I'll dig into the code deep after my breakfast
07:56 kivilahtio   sorry for bothering you with a solution I could have solved
08:03 sophie_m     kivilahtio: look into ccl.properties, some aliases for indexes are defined there
08:17 marcelr      hi #koha
08:51 magnuse      hiya marcelr
08:51 marcelr      hi magnuse
08:52 BobB         kivilahtio, there are two filters: GRS1 and DOM and you choose one; DOM is now recommended but many installations are still GRS1
08:53 BobB         for GRS1 refer to record.abs; for DOM refer to biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml
08:53 BobB         I just learnt that at Koha Hackfest  :)
08:59 magnuse      yay!
09:07 kivilahtio   BobB: great! How do I know which one I have in use? I don't think I remember such a selection during installation?
09:08 kivilahtio   BobB: I am using Koha 3.12
09:09 kivilahtio   or I think I am using the latest master currently
09:09 kivilahtio   I know I am using the latest master
09:09 kivilahtio   but I installed the v3.12
09:10 kivilahtio   Is there any way to automatically fill the Koha Item Type when adding Items?
09:10 kivilahtio   There is a SubfieldsToUseWhenPrefill and PrefillItems global preferences
09:10 kivilahtio   but I don't think they can help here
09:21 magnuse      kivilahtio: i think koha-conf.xml will tell you which mode you are using
09:22 magnuse      "automatically fill the Koha Item Type" - in which context? migration of data or manual entry of new records and items?
09:23 kivilahtio   magnuse: manual entry of new records
09:24 magnuse      you can set a default value in the framework
09:24 kivilahtio   magnuse: hmm, now i see that i didnt set the item type when adding an item and now when i am editing it there is a item type
09:25 magnuse      but do you only have items of one type?
09:25 kivilahtio   magnuse: 3 types, but the default seems to be the first one, the same on as the biblios default item type
09:25 magnuse      if you set the itemtype in 942 (is it $c?) it will be carried over to 952
09:26 kivilahtio   magnuse: I thought such data is no longer stored in the Zebra DB?
09:26 kivilahtio   I mean item related data
09:27 magnuse      items were removed from the marcxml and marc fields in the mysql database, but they are indexed by zebra
09:27 kivilahtio   magnuse: ok, but there are no limitations to serials use regardless, such limitations as in v3.4?
09:28 magnuse      limit on the number of items?
09:28 kivilahtio   I think there were huge performance issues with lots of serials, but I am seeing such problems as well now that I am adding a ton of serials to the Koha
09:28 magnuse      performance was one of the reasons for removing items from marc/marcxml columns
09:29 kivilahtio   problems such as Home › Cataloging › Edit  (Record #26484) › Items          ... where the hundreds of items we have in our library cooperation are just showed in one table
09:29 magnuse      but if you have thousands of items connected to one record there might still be surprises, i guess
09:29 kivilahtio   magnuse: ok, just making sure :)
09:29 magnuse      :-)
09:29 kivilahtio   magnuse: yes there will be, but they are not critical issues, I think we can find a solution to them
09:33 magnuse      yay!
09:33 kivilahtio   magnuse: the situation here is really strange
09:34 kivilahtio   magnuse: we need to apparently solve national issues with local resources :)
09:34 kivilahtio   magnuse: crazy!
09:34 kivilahtio   magnuse: I didn't sign up for that, but lets see what comes out of it :) I am certain something good
09:35 kivilahtio   just nee to vent stuff out, thanks for helping
09:37 magnuse      hehe
10:11 magnuse      @quote random
10:11 huginn       magnuse: Quote #15: "<|Lupin|>ricardo: you are like the Portuguese Hitchcock!!" (added by wizzyrea at 02:58 PM, July 10, 2009)
10:26 kivilahtio   Is there any way to search for a specific serial number?
10:26 kivilahtio   If not I am about to start working on that functionality
10:30 magnuse      kivilahtio: do you mean like "vol 23 issue 34"?
10:39 kivilahtio   magnuse: yes, I was planning to implement a search to OPAC and staff client where we can search for the volume, number/issue, branch and starting/ending date
10:39 kivilahtio   magnuse: this is because we need to be able to place a hold on a specific item easily
10:40 kivilahtio   magnuse: not sure if there is any sense to it, but I am said it is crucial to server our patrons
10:41 kivilahtio   so they are interested in vol 2013 : number 12 and want to know if it is available easily
10:41 kivilahtio   in their home branch
10:41 magnuse      today you would have to just browse the list of issues to do that, i think
10:41 kivilahtio   also we need to find a way to make extra notes about issues. One issue could be a christmas extra
10:41 kivilahtio   magnuse: yes
10:42 kivilahtio   magnuse: this is problematic when we have 20 libraries with 12 issues a year for the past 5 years
10:42 magnuse      i wonder if that data is sufficiently structured, though
10:42 kivilahtio   that makes 1200 issues
10:42 kivilahtio   its great that there are the top n most recent issues already, but if we have lots of branches the views will become totally incomprehensible
10:43 kivilahtio   I was planning to target the enumeration field
10:43 magnuse      if it is just stored as "vol x, issue y" it will be hard to differentiate between e.g. "vol. 4, issue 5" and "vol. 5, issue 4"
10:43 magnuse      oh well, lunchtime
10:43 wahanui      lunchtime is a terrible time for a meeting
10:44 kivilahtio   magnuse: I know, but this is what I aim to provide a solution for
10:44 kivilahtio   I think there needs to be some kind of a unified way of labeling the enumeration
10:45 kivilahtio   and that label needs to be defined in the global preferences
10:45 kivilahtio   but I am more worried about the UI modifications
10:45 kivilahtio   But I have a solution thanks to javascript and the awesome jQuery you use
10:51 drojf        hi #koha
10:51 kivilahtio   drojf: hi there
10:51 wahanui      que tal, kivilahtio
10:51 drojf        is git terribly slow or is it just me?
10:52 drojf        hi kivilahtio
10:55 drojf        looks like it is the horrible university wifi again
11:09 kivilahtio   bug 11129
11:09 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11129 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Limiting the display of Serial issues OR Searching a specific Serial issue
11:10 kivilahtio   if I start with this do I waste my time?
11:10 kivilahtio   or yours?
11:10 wahanui      hmmm... yours is better actually
11:10 kivilahtio   good boy wahanui
11:11 kivilahtio   Couldn't find any conflicting bugs in bugzilla
11:21 jcamins      kivilahtio: I'm not sure that what you propose is possible at this time. With Zebra you can't search for a part of a record. So a search for "vol. 4, issue 5" will just return the entire record.
11:22 kivilahtio   jcamins: I know, but I will embed the search filte to opac-detail.pl and Staff client
11:22 jcamins      Ah. That will not involve Zebra, then.
11:22 kivilahtio   jcamins: I am not planning to extend Zebra god no! But to make a filter to serials views.
11:23 jcamins      Got it.
11:23 jcamins      That makes sense.
11:23 kivilahtio   Base class package "DBIx::Class::Schema" is empty.
11:23 kivilahtio   I got this?
11:23 kivilahtio   at http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/koha/members/member.pl
11:23 jcamins      You need to install DBIx::Class.
11:23 kivilahtio   ok
11:24 kivilahtio   why I didnät figure it out immediately :)
11:25 kivilahtio   jcamins: Thanks for the review!
11:42 mtompset     Greetings, #koha.
11:43 kivilahtio   greetings mtompset
11:43 mtompset     Greetings, kivilahtio.
11:43 kivilahtio   mtompset: A guestion if you may?
11:43 mtompset     Perhaps, but I never guarantee answers. :)
11:43 kivilahtio   mtompset: How do you manage quickly circulating items?
11:44 kivilahtio   mtompset: we have a new book and we need to limit its circulation period so everybody can have their share
11:44 kivilahtio   mtompset: Isn't there a functionality which allows the check-out period to change based on the amount of holds placed?
11:45 kivilahtio   can you somehow set a book to circulate faster? and then revert back to normal circulation speed
11:46 mtompset     kivilahtio: Have you tried reading the manual? Because, to be honest, I don't know the answer.
11:47 jwagner      kivilahtio, why not give it an item type with a short circ rule? Then change item type to a more normal one once the first demand is past
11:47 jwagner      i.e., NEWBOOK with one week loan period, vs BOOK with three week loan period
11:49 kivilahtio   jwagner: we would need a quickly circulating item type for each item type we have and that is a pain regarding all the views where itemtypes are dealt with
11:49 kivilahtio   jwagner: but I was thinking about having just one quick circulating item type
11:49 jwagner      that would work
11:49 kivilahtio   we could run the reports and statistics based on the bibliographic records koha default item type
11:50 kivilahtio   I don't think we have a need to have the biblio in differnt item type than its items
11:51 mtompset     http://manual.koha-community.org/3.12/en/patscirc.html
11:53 mtompset     changing the checkout-period based on the number of holds sounds like a potentially useful feature.
11:53 kivilahtio   mtompset: I think it was already in Koha?
11:53 kivilahtio   mtompset: Or maybe i mix it up
11:53 jcamins      kivilahtio: setting item type at biblio level or item level is an either/or proposition. You can't set the item type at both levels, and have both settings have an impact.
11:53 kivilahtio   jcamins: if we configure our system preference to use the item's itemtype to deal with circulation rules
11:54 kivilahtio   then it should work, while still retaining a trace of the item's original itemtype in the bibliographic record
11:54 jcamins      In that case, bib-level item type has no impact.
11:54 jcamins      Yes.
11:54 kivilahtio   jcamins: yes, but we can still target it in reports if we want to know if our quick circulating items are books or dvdäs?
11:54 jcamins      bug 7751
11:54 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7751 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, CLOSED FIXED, Decrease loan period on items with a high number of holds
11:55 jcamins      Yes.
11:57 kivilahtio   jcamins: I think there is no way to add items to a list?
11:57 kivilahtio   only Biblios?
11:57 jcamins      What do you mean?
11:58 jcamins      The reports module is just SQL.
11:58 kivilahtio   There are lists in Koha, to make colelctions of Bibliographic records
11:58 jcamins      Ah.
11:58 kivilahtio   and you can merge biblios
11:58 jcamins      That is correct. They are bib-level.
11:58 kivilahtio   but we would like to have rotating collections
11:59 kivilahtio   so add items to a list and set this list as a rotating collection
11:59 jcamins      There was a rotating collection feature in Koha.
11:59 kivilahtio   then set the home location of items to other library
11:59 jcamins      I think it may still be there, it's just disabled due to bugs.
11:59 kivilahtio   I think all we would need is to have a list for items
11:59 kivilahtio   we can batch edit items, shouldn't be a biggie to extend lists to contain items as well
11:59 kivilahtio   or maybe it is
12:00 jcamins      I'm not sure of that.
12:00 kivilahtio   jcamins: I understand
12:00 kivilahtio   jcamins: thanks for your help
12:00 jcamins      You're welcome.
12:01 jcamins      There's also... floating collections.
12:01 jcamins      That might do what you want.
12:01 jcamins      Just ship the books to the new library and check them all in to change the location.
12:02 jcamins      I think.
12:02 kivilahtio   we are looking into flaoting collections
12:03 kivilahtio   jcamins: And we think that you choose the whole Koha installation to use floating items or not
12:03 kivilahtio   jcamins: we didn't figure out a way to have only certain items float
12:03 kivilahtio   jcamins: If we are wrong, I would be more than happy!
12:03 jcamins      It's by item type, I think.
12:03 jcamins      Or maybe collection code.
12:03 kivilahtio   I think you have to choose, hmm let me see
12:04 kivilahtio   jcamins: but is this a system preference? or a circulation rule?
12:05 jcamins      System preference, I think.
12:05 jcamins      I'm not actually sure, though.
12:05 jcamins      I don't use floating collections.
12:05 kivilahtio   jcamins: I think it is what we think then :) because it is a system preference to set how material returns after being checked in
12:10 drojf        why do i get a gazillion merge problems when i try of update master? there is no patch of me in there
12:13 drojf        hm. looks like i seriously broke something
12:21 magnuse      kivilahtio: bug 8836
12:21 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8836 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Resurrect Rotating Collections
12:27 magnuse      kia ora oleonard
12:27 oleonard     Hi magnuse and all in #koha
12:27 * oleonard   is back in his regular chair
12:28 magnuse      welcome back oleonard :-)
12:31 mtompset     Were you in an electric one before, oleonard? ;)
12:32 oleonard     Flying chairs, desert chairs, bus chairs. Many chairs.
12:35 mtompset     Putting on driving hat.
12:35 mtompset     Have a great day, #koha.
12:37 magnuse      have fun mtompset
12:44 * magnuse    is reminded of bug 10117
12:44 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10117 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Byte Order Mark breaks Patron Import
12:57 oleonard     Hi druthb
12:57 druthb       hi, oleonard! :)
13:19 kivilahtio   magnuse: Thanks for the link! Very precious!
13:19 oleonard     I guess my co-workers weren't too busy while I was gone: http://i.imgur.com/Uu5JJxW.jpg
13:20 kivilahtio   Is that toilet paper?
13:20 magnuse      oleonard: that's your desk?
13:20 magnuse      lol!
13:20 oleonard     Yes and yes.
13:20 kivilahtio   oleonard: maybe they are worried about your health?
13:20 * druthb     chuckles.
13:20 magnuse      you should teach them to sign off koha patches instead :-)
13:20 druthb       magnuse++
13:20 oleonard     I don't know if you can read it, but the sign on the door says "Toilet Supplies Annex"
13:21 magnuse      tee hee
13:23 druthb       My asoke scarf made it to my office today.  I have a large stuffed feline on a high shelf; it is draped over the critter's midsection.  :)
13:24 kivilahtio   oleonard: I like your colleagues.
13:24 kivilahtio   oleonard: I would just hide your mouse
13:24 kivilahtio   If I had a form in Koha, could I use the HTML5 <input type="number"> ?
13:25 kivilahtio   I am a bit worried about how the checks localize to any language
13:25 kivilahtio   don't wanna make javascript checks
13:26 oleonard     We do use an HTML5 doctype. The type attribute degrades gracefully in non-HTML5 browsers?
13:26 kivilahtio   oleonard: absolutely no idea. Long time since I last did web development
13:26 kivilahtio   oleonard: but it doesnt seem to respect the maxlenght attribute
13:27 oleonard     Decent support except for Firefox for some reason: http://caniuse.com/#feat=input-number
13:28 oleonard     kivilahtio: What are you trying to do?
13:50 kivilahtio   oleonard: bug 11129, validate user inputting integers
13:50 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11129 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Limiting the display of Serial issues OR Searching a specific Serial issue
13:51 kivilahtio   do we still need to define id and name for html elements?
13:51 kivilahtio   is IE still breaking my balls?
13:52 oleonard     kivilahtio: The staff client already globally includes a validation plugin you can use
13:52 kivilahtio   i am working in staff client and OPAC
13:52 kivilahtio   opac-detail.tt/pl mainly
13:52 kivilahtio   prolly will have to propagate filters up to C4 modules
13:53 oleonard     having a server-side layer of validation is always best
13:53 kivilahtio   oleonard: both is best :)
13:54 oleonard     Hi tcohen, are you back home?
13:55 tcohen       hi oleonard, in chile, a couple more hours until i get to cordoba
13:55 tcohen       how are you?
13:55 oleonard     I'm fine, thanks. Nothing bad to report about my trip home.
13:56 tcohen       :-D
13:56 kivilahtio   tcohen: wow, chile must be awesome!
13:56 tcohen       yeah, the airport has some wide sits where u can have a nice nap
14:02 druthb       tcohen: It was lovely getting to meet you in Reno!
14:02 tcohen       hi druthb
14:02 tcohen       the same feeling here
14:03 tcohen       :D
14:04 tcohen       druthb: your granola is awesome btw
14:04 * oleonard   likes having more faces and voices to go with the IRC nicks
14:04 druthb       Thanks!  I make those snack bars all the time, and am always changing up which fruits and nuts are in it.  That mix was particularly tasty.
14:05 tcohen       cait recommended me to take them, I didn't know they were your's
14:06 druthb       I brought them to share. :)
14:10 tcohen       sleepy tcohen givin' thanks to druthb: http://snag.gy/cYK3N.jpg
14:10 druthb       aw!   *hug*
14:11 oleonard     :)
14:13 druthb       That batch had almonds, walnuts, sunflower seeds, some pistachio, and dried apples, prunes, and cherries, with just a splash of orange juice to get it to bind up for baking.  Turned out chewier than I normally like 'em, but it worked out.
14:13 oleonard     I should know this, but how does one turn on debug, as in "$debug && warn ..."
14:13 tcohen       its great druthb
14:15 druthb       :)
14:17 gmcharlt     @quote random
14:17 huginn       gmcharlt: Quote #19: "<chris> i just want to yell things like don't kick the ball, pass it and Feed the backs" (added by jdavidb at 12:11 PM, July 27, 2009)
14:19 gmcharlt     oleonard: SetEnv DEBUG 1 in the apache config is one way
14:19 oleonard     Thanks gmcharlt
14:46 oleonard     Oh and by the way gmcharlt, I actually disagree with Bug 11057's suggestion that the language chooser should be always visible
14:46 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11057 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Bootstrap theme: Don't hide language chooser below the fold
14:46 oleonard     I'm thinking about an alternate solution that would be more mobile-friendly
14:47 gmcharlt     the main oddity I see is that no matter how you resize the window, one must always scroll down to see it
14:47 gmcharlt     what alternative do you have in mind?
14:47 oleonard     maybe something like this: http://www.screencast.com/t/UFhTZxKhnQ
14:48 gmcharlt     in the header? looks good to me, though I don't know if an iconic tools menu is visible enough
14:48 oleonard     Yeah I agree
14:50 tcohen       icu?
14:50 wahanui      well, icu is a good idea.
14:50 tcohen       icu?
14:50 wahanui      icu is a good idea.
14:50 oleonard     Better than Facebook's method, where once you're logged in the language choice is in a footer that always jumps out of reach when the page auto-loads more results :P
14:51 gmcharlt     heh
14:51 tcohen       does anyone have a link to the ICU setup wiki? i'd like to do what is needed to get it working on packages
14:51 gmcharlt     tcohen: looking
14:53 kivilahtio   Hi again!
14:53 kivilahtio   I need to make a dropdown form, any guidelines regarding showing content based on a button click?
14:54 kivilahtio   I don't remember those being used anywhere in Koha
14:54 kivilahtio   I havea button I click, and then a form appears under the button.
14:54 gmcharlt     tcohen: hmm, not on the wiki -- this is the closest I've found
14:54 gmcharlt     http://kohageek.blogspot.com/
14:54 oleonard     kivilahtio: Please provide more details. What is the situation?
14:54 tcohen       thanks gmcharlt
14:54 gmcharlt     or more specifically, http://kohageek.blogspot.com/2013/10/zebra-configuration-for-regional_2.html
14:55 gmcharlt     upshot, I think, is that copies of all of the relevant files should be added to Koha's source tree
14:55 kivilahtio   oleonard: wow http://193.65.112.189/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=26484&branchLimiter=CPL&volume=&number=&from=&to=&filterIssues=Submit#
14:56 kivilahtio   under Holdings(30) -> Limit issues, a to be button, not yet styled
14:57 kivilahtio   there is a form which needs obviously to be hidden when not needed
14:57 kivilahtio   oleonard: just looking into jQueryUI documentation, never used that
14:58 oleonard     If all you want to do is show and hide that form you shouldn't need jQueryUI
15:00 oleonard     Take a look at members/notices.tt for a fairly simple example of showing and hiding content using jQuery
15:00 kivilahtio   oleonard: I could use display : none -> block and position: absolute
15:00 kivilahtio   but I was more worried about aligning my design with the Koha UI design principles
15:00 kivilahtio   and having a nice animation is a bonus
15:01 kivilahtio   oleonard: so I was curious should I use some specific fade effect as is present in some UI elements in the OPAC
15:01 kivilahtio   or maybe it is Mozillla
15:01 tcohen       gmcharlt: that's correct, but we also need to tweak some files I guess
15:01 oleonard     What fade effects are you thinking of kivilahtio?
15:03 gmcharlt     tcohen: agreed; we'll need to lean on current ICU users to describe whatever tweaks they use from the configs that ship with Zebra
15:03 kivilahtio   oleonard: nothing obtrusive, just asking are there any styling guidelines. But I'll hack something up and then let's see what happens
15:03 jenkins_koha Starting build #383 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
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15:03 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add AllowOfflineCirculation
15:13 tcohen       gmcharlt: so people are effectively using ICU but it is not properly documented, we need to fix that too
15:14 gmcharlt     tcohen: agreeed
15:14 tcohen       i volunteer of course, but i need some information source
15:14 tcohen       kf / cait was the first to ask me for ICU in packages so I'll contact her first
15:15 oleonard     Call the casino floor, she may be putting her last dollar into a slot machine right now
15:15 tcohen       @heh
15:15 huginn       tcohen: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
15:16 tcohen       oleonard++
15:16 bag          HA
15:17 bag          anybody have a clue what day it is?
15:17 oleonard     I know right?
15:18 gmcharlt     bag: Friday.  why do you ask?
15:18 oleonard     :D
15:18 bag          :P
15:18 jcamins      tcohen: I just use the ICU configuration that comes with Koha.
15:18 tcohen       so i should perform a standard install and mimick what it does, in the packages
15:19 jcamins      It works fine for me, though Martin can demonstrate search not working without the patch that adds icu-phrases.xml.
15:19 bag          I have been fighting with FedEx the last two days trying to get a package delivered - I wish they had apt-get deliver
15:19 gmcharlt     right, putting in phrase config appears to be required
15:19 tcohen       heh
15:19 gmcharlt     I'm not personally sure about the rest that folks have been grabbing from what ships with Zebra
15:24 tcohen       ok, once i get to cordoba i'll take a look, now i'll try to get something to eat :-D
15:24 tcohen       byeeee
15:25 oleonard     Safe travels tcohen
15:28 bag          wow tcohen still in route home?
15:28 bag          long trip
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15:48 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #384: SUCCESS in 10 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/384/
15:48 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add new offline circ
16:09 kivilahtio   oleonard: now I have something to show http://193.65.112.189/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=26484&filterBranchLimiter=_ShowAll&filterVolume=&filterNumber=&filterFrom=&filterTo=&filterIssues=Submit
16:10 kivilahtio   I need to recolor the button but otherwise this is what i meant
16:10 oleonard     I wouldn't style the link in any special way. I think a plain link would be most consistent
16:10 kivilahtio   my jQuery is a bit rusty :)
16:11 kivilahtio   but I remember the times I was a real jQuery Ninja ;)
16:11 kivilahtio   oleonard: you think users realize they can click the link?
16:11 kivilahtio   if it it just white-gray?
16:11 kivilahtio   but I agree it stands out and looks lonely
16:11 oleonard     I think they'll know they can click it if it looks like a link :)
16:12 oleonard     Why would it be white-gray?
16:12 kivilahtio   blue stands out oo much, it is really disturbing regarding hte contrast
16:12 jcamins      kivilahtio: interesting. I'm not sure I like the way it covers the item table.
16:12 kivilahtio   jcamins: good point, it actually covers it for non-javascript users :)
16:12 kivilahtio   jcamins: better suggestions where to put it?
16:13 kivilahtio   jcamins: it is strictly related to the Holdings-tab
16:13 oleonard     kivilahtio: Why not simply have it push the table down when it appears?
16:13 kivilahtio   I could js it on the right side
16:13 kivilahtio   oleonard: well...
16:13 oleonard     Don't do any positioning
16:13 kivilahtio   oleonard: good point
16:14 kivilahtio   maybe i just like to make extra complex stuff with jQuery
16:14 kivilahtio   so justa plain link?
16:15 oleonard     That's what I would do.
16:15 kivilahtio   oleonard: I think you are right
16:15 kivilahtio   I think I need to get back to gimp and see what might be the best solutino
16:16 jcamins      I'd prefer pushing it down.
16:16 kivilahtio   jcamins: ok
16:17 oleonard     kivilahtio: Should that form work? Or is it just a test of the markup?
16:18 kivilahtio   oleonard: not yet, the parameters are caught and validated but nothing happens on the server side yet
16:18 jcamins      kivilahtio: how exactly will that work? Does it require enumchron to be entered in a special way?
16:19 kivilahtio   jcamins: I will make a loose regexp to catch the first and second digits
16:19 kivilahtio   jcamins: I will make a loose regexp to catch the first and second integers
16:20 kivilahtio   so basically it should work with things like Vol 2013, No 11 || 2013 :11 || Volume 2013 : Number 6
16:20 kivilahtio   not Number 6 volume 2013
16:21 kivilahtio   I am not sure if anybody uses other notations, but suggestions are welcome
16:21 kivilahtio   but i was planning to make a system preference where you can define in which order these integers appear
16:22 kivilahtio   quite frankly not sure how to deal with Volume, Number, Issue as we only use Volume : Number
16:22 kivilahtio   strictly only 2013 : 11
16:22 kivilahtio   it would be nice to hear what kind of use cases you suspect for enumchron?
16:22 kivilahtio   they cant be too crazy
16:23 jcamins      kivilahtio: we have a saying here on #koha.
16:23 jcamins      @quote 123
16:23 wahanui      @quote get 123
16:23 huginn       jcamins: downloading the Perl source
16:23 huginn       wahanui: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
16:23 wahanui      ...but quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is <reply>...
16:23 kivilahtio   bt then again if I use a system preference as a regexp then each library can define it their way
16:24 kivilahtio   jcamins: you think this is mad?
16:24 kivilahtio   jcamins: I think it is doable
16:24 jcamins      I think that there will be even crazier ways of formatting enumchron.
16:24 jcamins      But I don't know what they are.
16:24 jcamins      ... which is really what makes them crazy.
16:24 kivilahtio   jcamins: I understand. I think i will put a regexp to the system preferences so each library can define their own standard of defining the enumchron
16:25 jcamins      :)
16:25 kivilahtio   jcamins: It's not a biggie
16:27 jcamins      Yeah, it seems like a reasonable idea. But "they can't be too crazy" is a very dangerous thing to say, when you're talking about libraries.
16:27 kivilahtio   jcamins: I will note that
16:27 gaetan_B     bye !
16:33 gmcharlt     question for the world: preferences on '-" vs. '!' for the negation operator for QueryParser queries?
16:33 bag          no preference here
16:34 jcamins      gmcharlt: I believe EG uses both.
16:34 bag          oh +1 for both
16:34 druthb       +1 for both!
16:35 druthb       intuitive-ness++
16:35 kivilahtio   jcamins: oleonard: well here are the options, I think you are right, but I think the link needs something more to hint the user to clikc it
16:35 oleonard     If something looks like a link, kivilahtio, users will know they can click it.
16:41 * druthb     doesn't click oleonard, becuase he doesn't much look like Link:  http://www.zeldawiki.org/File:ST_Link_3.png
16:42 bag          wait oleonard does look like that druthb
16:43 oleonard     If you haven't been to KohaCon you have no idea which is true.
16:43 kivilahtio   I havent but now I wish  had ;)
16:43 druthb       naah.  oleonard doesn't have a sword in his hand, and an angry yell.  He smiles a lot.  Also darker hair.
16:43 jcamins      kivilahtio: oleonard has feet, so I have to agree with druthb.
16:44 druthb       jcamins++
16:44 jcamins      Or, at least, if he doesn't have feet, he hides it well.
16:44 * oleonard   is glad jcamins noticed
16:45 kivilahtio   Arent you afraid that your SQL is so exposed? like with C4::Items::GetItemsInfo() ?
16:45 jcamins      kivilahtio: nah, oleonard wasn't carrying a sword so it's nothing to worry about. :)
16:45 kivilahtio   I thought I had to push my filters through multiple functions, but it is nice to have the SQL just one function call away from the UI
16:46 jcamins      kivilahtio: you still need to sanitize user input.
16:46 kivilahtio   jcamins: You think if I put mangeld SQL dates to DB it breaks?
16:46 kivilahtio   doesn't prepare statements sanitize it for me?
16:47 kivilahtio   jcamins: I think I skipped my SQL lessons regarding sanitation but is it total idiocy to suggest that one could just put unsanitized variables to a SQL prepared statement?
16:47 kivilahtio   isn't that what the preapred statement is for?
16:47 jcamins      kivilahtio: to some extent, but if you want to make sure that you'll get results if the input is invalid, you need to handle that case.
16:48 kivilahtio   jcamins: ok, phew, validating date is a pain :(
16:49 jcamins      Like if you want to translate non-numeric input to always be equal to one, so that SELECT * FROM table WHERE field < 'fish'; works, you'll need to coerce fish into an integer equal to one.
16:50 oleonard     Only one with divine powers can coerce 'fish' to be equal to more than one.
16:50 kivilahtio   jcamins: is this because you don't want errors in your MySQL log?
16:50 kivilahtio   oleonard++
16:50 jcamins      kivilahtio: no, because you want to have results if you don't get any data.
16:51 kivilahtio   jcamins: how about just cancelling the search if parameters are incorrect. If you try to mimic correct behaviour with incorrect parameters... that sounds like a ticket to hard-to-debug -problems
16:51 kivilahtio   but now I just said I should validat ALL input :)
16:51 kivilahtio   are there any validators in OPAC?
16:52 oleonard     No built-in client side JS validator, no.
16:52 kivilahtio   oleonard: but in the C4-modules?
16:52 kivilahtio   oleonard: you said in staff client there are validators. IN the business layer?
16:53 * oleonard   doesn't know about that
16:53 kivilahtio   but there generally don't seem to be many validators in the OPAC's .pl scripts. Should I call it the Controller layer?
16:54 kivilahtio   like placerequest.pl just accepts anything and asks no questions. And there are a lot of parameters
16:55 jcamins      kivilahtio: right, exactly. I was trying to provide an example of where not having any results for invalid data is the opposite of the expected behavior.
16:55 kivilahtio   jcamins: okey dokey
16:57 kivilahtio   so there are no validator functions in C4?
16:57 kivilahtio   just making sure before I go and program some
17:01 mtompset     C4::Accounts is gone now?
17:01 mtompset     Okay.
17:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #182 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 2 days 10 hr ago)
17:03 kivilahtio   I asked what is the deal with C4:: and Koha:: I understood C4 is legacy and Koha is the new OO way to go
17:04 kivilahtio   I presume someone is in process of rewriting C4 to Koha?
17:04 jcamins      kivilahtio: not in any organized way.
17:04 kivilahtio   So my modifications to C4 will become obsolete in some time?
17:04 jcamins      Only if someone implements the same thing in Koha::.
17:05 kivilahtio   jcamins: ok. So basically totally new functionality should go to Koha::
17:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #1476 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
17:05 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11123: remove two unused routines from C4::Accounts <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5ba71095b4460005d7e78031bc77db4e3c229eb0>
17:06 jcamins      Yup.
17:48 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #182: STILL UNSTABLE in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/182/
17:48 jenkins_koha Jonathan Druart: Bug 11123: remove two unused routines from C4::Accounts
17:48 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11123 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , 2 routines are unused in C4::Account
18:06 reiveune     bye
18:14 khall        MyISAM vs InnoDB for action_logs? If you've got an opinion, please let me know! http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11136
18:14 huginn       04Bug 11136: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , action_logs should be a MyISAM table, not InnoDB
18:52 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1476: SUCCESS in 1 hr 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1476/
18:52 jenkins_koha Jonathan Druart: Bug 11123: remove two unused routines from C4::Accounts
18:52 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11123 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , 2 routines are unused in C4::Account
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19:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #385: SUCCESS in 12 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/385/
19:03 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update csv profiles
19:22 jcamins      khall: aria.
19:23 jcamins      Supposed to be way less corruption-prone.
19:25 jcamins      Having never had a catastrophic failure while using aria I can't confirm that from first-hand experience, though.
19:31 oleonard     Bye #koha. If you need me I'll be waiting by the elevator wondering what to have for dinner.
19:48 jenkins_koha Starting build #386 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:48 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #386: SUCCESS in 10 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/386/
19:48 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add item type check in alerts
20:16 nengard      is the Koha site down?
20:17 nengard      My internet is so wonky here I can't ever tell what's me and what's really down
20:18 jenkins_koha Starting build #387 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:18 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #387: SUCCESS in 11 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/387/
20:18 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add WhenLostForgiveFine
20:29 rambutan     koha-community.org is down down down
20:41 gmcharlt     it's back, now
20:47 * cait-m_    waves
20:55 rambutan     waves
20:57 cait-m_      in slc now
20:57 cait-m_      wsiting for flight to paris
20:59 rambutan     hoping you fly friendly skies
20:59 cait-m_      thx
20:59 cait-m_      sad to leave
21:00 cait-m_      i had a nice first visit to the US
21:00 rambutan     good
21:07 rambutan     Profound statement of the week: I think there should be a (scholarly) Open-Source ILS Journal
21:08 rambutan     I'm reading "Computers in Libraries" and it's all proprietary-ILS centric
21:08 jcamins      Not to be crass (okay, maybe), but don't you think such a journal would just turn into navel-gazing?
21:08 cait-m_      yesh and when writing about koha they dony get it right :(
21:09 rambutan     suppose there's enough potential material out there covering EG, Koha, DSpace, etc, to support a quarterly publication
21:09 rambutan     jcamins: question has merit and requires serious thought. Will give it consideration
21:10 jcamins      I am not opposed to the idea, but I feel like academic publishing tends to be kind of navel-gazing-y anyway, and a special interest journal would tend to make that more rather than less true.
21:10 jcamins      At least, that's my take.
21:11 busla        hey all! Just finished the Debian install on a RasPi .. anyone have a clue what the URL is for the web-installation?
21:11 busla        can´t find it in any docs
21:12 busla        and sites-enabled doesn´t point to any root_dir
21:12 jcamins      127.0.0.1
21:12 jcamins      (or rPi external IP)
21:12 busla        right..
21:12 rambutan     Still reflecting, but such a journal would need to be weighted towards how OS ILSs actually promote world peace, and not focus in the latest patch to zebrasort.pl
21:12 busla        should delete the default index.html in the apache root
21:12 busla        ?
21:13 jcamins      busla: no, but if you're not using DNS you may want to disable the default site and change the intranet port to 8080.
21:14 busla        ahh
21:14 busla        ok
21:14 busla        :)
21:14 busla        thanks
21:14 jcamins      Personally, I recommend avahi.
21:14 busla        avahi ?
21:14 wahanui      i think avahi is kind of amazing.
21:14 jcamins      It really is.
21:14 jcamins      It does the local DNS thing that I've forgotten the name of.
21:14 busla        found it
21:14 jcamins      So http://raspberrypi.local./ works.
21:15 jcamins      If you set it up to do so.
21:15 busla        https://wiki.debian.org/ZeroConf ?
21:16 jcamins      That's it.
21:16 jcamins      It's useful because you can use it for making name based virtual hosts work.
21:18 busla        trying it out
21:18 busla        :)
21:18 jenkins_koha Starting build #388 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:18 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #388: SUCCESS in 11 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/388/
21:18 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add image to overdrive prefs
21:20 jcamins      Wait, I just remembered something.
21:20 jcamins      Never mind. The instructions are on port 80.
21:26 busla        woops.. avahi giving me alot of erros
21:26 busla        *error
21:26 busla        s
21:26 busla        going for the other option
21:27 busla        damn.. would be great to package Koha as a RasPi distribution :-)
21:47 busla        weird ... default user and pass not working in the web installer
21:47 busla        well, the values in the xml file
21:47 jcamins      Are you sure it's not just slow?
21:48 busla        well, it´s not loading and the form was cleared by the browser
21:48 jcamins      The values in the XML file work are the only ones that will work for the webinstaller.
21:48 busla        no error message though
21:48 busla        right
21:48 jcamins      If it actually didn't work, you would've gotten a web browser.
21:48 jcamins      Some weird redirect?
21:49 busla        I´m doing this over lan
21:49 busla        added Listen 8080 in ports.conf
21:49 busla        and my library name in /etc/hosts
21:49 busla        pretty basic
21:49 busla        on the remote computer ofcourse
21:51 busla        I have login credentials for "authorityserver" and "publicserver"
21:52 jcamins      Wrong credentials.
21:52 jcamins      At the bottom are the user name and password for Koha.
21:53 busla        ohh .. thought it was the mysql credentials
21:53 jcamins      It is, but the authorityserver and publicserver bits are for Zebra.
21:54 jcamins      You want the koha_mylibrary user name and its related password.
21:54 busla        ahh
21:54 busla        :)
21:54 busla        thanks
21:54 busla        working
21:55 busla        I´ll look at this Wiki tomorrow... it´s time for an update: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_a_Raspberry_Pi
22:01 peggy        Hi.  I've installed Debian and apache2 and mysql and koha-common.  But when I go to http://kohaadmin it can't find the server.  Any suggestions?
22:04 busla        what´s your setup?
22:05 peggy        I'm on an old dell laptop - wiped clean.  Fresh install of everything
22:06 peggy        What else do you want to know?
22:06 jcamins      peggy: you need to replace kohaadmin with the URL for your staff client.
22:07 peggy        As far as I know that IS the URL for my staff client.
22:07 peggy        ?
22:07 busla        .. and edit /etc/hosts I assume ?
22:08 busla        or 127.0.0.1
22:08 jcamins      busla: right, the URL has to be set up.
22:08 peggy        Ah.  I seem to remember something about adding the name...
22:08 busla        peggy: have you reached the webinstaller?
22:09 peggy        Currently has "localhost at 127.0.0.1 and thrasher.thrasher.org at 127.0.1.1
22:09 peggy        No, no web installer yet.
22:09 busla        ahh ok
22:09 peggy        So I need kohaadmin at 127.0.0.?  can I use 1 again?
22:10 busla        just try it
22:10 peggy        Magic!
22:10 busla        but I suggest adding "Listen 8080" in /etc/apache2/ports.conf
22:11 busla        ok
22:11 busla        to get to the admin interface
22:11 busla        since it´s listening on that port
22:11 peggy        Now I'm at the web installer.
22:11 busla        ahh ok
22:12 peggy        I need to add an entry for the OPAC, too.  same IP?
22:12 busla        well... if you were online 15 minutes ago, I suggest you take a look at the conversation I had with jcamins
22:12 jcamins      logs?
22:12 busla        I just went through this process
22:12 wahanui      logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/
22:12 jcamins      peggy: yep, same deal.
22:12 peggy        I shall do that!  Great.  Thanks so much.
22:14 busla        it´s pretty slow on the RasPI
22:14 busla        logging in takes around 20 seks
22:17 jcamins      busla: yeah, you really need Plack to make it usable.
22:17 jcamins      plack?
22:17 wahanui      Plack is a FastCGI thingy that works with Koha. See http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack for more information.
22:18 eythian      hi
22:18 busla        right.. thanks, will have a look
22:18 busla        so excited about this
22:18 busla        :)
22:55 jcamins      eythian: how do you take pictures of things on your phone?
22:56 wizzyrea     like screenshots?
22:56 jcamins      Yeah.
22:57 eythian      jcamins: power+vol down
22:57 wizzyrea     volume down and power button at the same time
22:57 jcamins      Cool.
22:57 jcamins      I had no idea.
22:57 wizzyrea     jinx. ;)
23:01 gmcharlt     but the real talent is this ... choosing /what/ to take a screenshot of ;)
23:02 eythian      :D
23:04 wizzyrea     :D
23:06 peggy        Question:  I have a git directory that contains my source, and I just installed a new instance of Koha.  How can I tell the new Koha instance to use the source in my git directory?
23:06 eythian      peggy: you have a package installation?
23:06 eythian      if so:
23:06 eythian      wahanui: gitify
23:06 wahanui      rumour has it gitify is at https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify
23:07 peggy        I used gitify with rangi at the hackfest.  But I had to reinstall and need to point to that source?
23:08 wizzyrea     koha-gitify new-instance-name
23:08 wizzyrea     from your gitify directory
23:08 cjh          wizzyrea: you will also need to specify the path
23:08 wizzyrea     oh right and the path to your git clone
23:09 cjh          drats I thought I had a readme, need to add one.
23:09 wizzyrea     running it without any arguments should give help
23:12 peggy        Command not found for koha-gitify.  Maybe because I created the gitify directory with my previous debian installation.
23:12 cjh          you will probably have to run it as ./koha-gitify
23:13 peggy        Yup.
23:14 wizzyrea     if all else fails just re-clone it
23:17 peggy        Yes!! it works.
23:17 peggy        Thanks so much.
23:19 wizzyrea     :) yw
23:20 pastebot     "wizzyrea" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "gitify instructions" (120 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/250
23:21 wizzyrea     because I had already started and stuff.
23:27 peggy        Thanks for the info.  I'm off to fix my first bug!
23:29 wizzyrea     sweeet
23:29 gmcharlt     peggy++
23:33 wizzyrea     peggy++