| Time |
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Nick |
Message |
| 00:04 |
|
dcook |
We can hope so :) |
| 00:04 |
|
dcook |
I hope that you manage to get some clients to take a look as well |
| 00:04 |
|
dcook |
The more eyes the better, me thinks |
| 00:05 |
|
pianohacker |
yup :) Code is at https://github.com/pianohacker/koha/tree/pci if you want to take a look |
| 00:06 |
|
pianohacker |
modifications to the pazpar2 setup are needed to get it working, but it is doable :) |
| 00:08 |
|
dcook |
Ah, I'm not much of a coding whiz myself. I've just worked in libraries for a while and get feedback here and there from clients using Koha. |
| 00:08 |
|
dcook |
Although... |
| 00:08 |
|
wahanui |
i heard although was mine 2.3.2 or 2.3.3 |
| 00:09 |
|
dcook |
I suppose a person could clone your git and run it through the Koha dev install? |
| 00:09 |
|
pianohacker |
dcook: Yup |
| 00:10 |
|
pianohacker |
mucking with pazpar2 is required to get the search working, but everything else should work |
| 00:10 |
|
dcook |
Ah, I think I follow you now |
| 00:11 |
|
dcook |
Perhaps a bit outside my reach for the moment then :p |
| 00:11 |
|
dcook |
Although I do have that one VM...perhaps I'll focus on the OAI-PMH harvester for now |
| 00:12 |
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| 00:12 |
|
mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
| 00:13 |
|
dcook |
hey mtompset |
| 00:13 |
|
wahanui |
rumour has it mtompset is disliking finding bugs while testing |
| 00:13 |
|
mtompset |
jcamins: It seems you were right. No need for the plug in settings. |
| 00:13 |
|
mtompset |
I'll going to reboot and check to make sure. |
| 00:13 |
|
mtompset |
^ll^m^ |
| 00:14 |
|
mtompset |
Greetings, dcook. |
| 00:44 |
|
tcohen |
bye #koha |
| 01:32 |
|
mtompset |
Yep. No need for the plugins settings. Interesting. |
| 01:32 |
|
jcamins |
Why would you have thought that they were required? |
| 01:32 |
|
mtompset |
The word plugins. |
| 01:33 |
|
jcamins |
Ah. |
| 01:35 |
|
mtompset |
Well, off to fortify myself with caffeine and then actually create a test plan for this. |
| 01:41 |
|
jcamins |
Wow. The early Doctor Who is extraordinarily cheesy, isn't it? |
| 01:42 |
|
pianohacker |
yup |
| 01:42 |
|
dcook |
I've never watched it myself, but I've heard of this cheesy reputation, yep. |
| 01:46 |
|
mtompset |
which Doctor? |
| 01:46 |
|
eythian |
jcamins: it's quite funny how the moment anything happens, the female characters immediately go into hysterics. |
| 01:46 |
|
jcamins |
The first, I think. |
| 01:47 |
|
eythian |
Old crotchety man? That'd be Hartnell. |
| 01:47 |
|
mtompset |
old guy, black and white, william hartnell? |
| 01:47 |
|
jcamins |
Maybe. |
| 01:47 |
|
mtompset |
jon pertwee was three... |
| 01:47 |
|
mtompset |
who was two again? |
| 01:48 |
|
mtompset |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programme[…]/features/doctors (which one, jcamins?) |
| 01:49 |
|
jcamins |
Yep. First Doctor. |
| 01:49 |
|
wizzyrea |
omg, I was watching some 7th doctor... his first companion was the shriekiest thing I'd ever heard. |
| 01:50 |
|
wizzyrea |
I almost stopped watching it. |
| 01:50 |
|
wizzyrea |
Mel I think |
| 01:51 |
|
wizzyrea |
it's all pretty cheesy up until 2005 ;) |
| 01:51 |
|
wizzyrea |
don't get me started on the 8th doctor. |
| 01:51 |
|
mtompset |
peri?! |
| 01:51 |
|
mtompset |
I had a serious crush on her when I was a teenager. |
| 01:52 |
|
jcamins |
Ian is currently dressed up as a the Ja'fa from Stargate. |
| 01:53 |
|
mtompset |
Mel? |
| 01:53 |
|
mtompset |
I didn't like Mel. |
| 01:53 |
|
eythian |
wizzyrea: the 8th one doesn't count I think |
| 01:53 |
|
mtompset |
Ace... now there's a companion... she liked to blow things up. |
| 01:54 |
|
wizzyrea |
ace was cool. |
| 01:54 |
|
gmcharlt |
who else could manage to take out a Dalek with a baseball bat? :) |
| 01:55 |
|
wizzyrea |
^ so much this |
| 01:58 |
|
jcamins |
The next episode is the Warriors of DEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTHHHHHHHHH. |
| 01:58 |
|
jcamins |
We decided it's too cheesy. |
| 01:59 |
|
wizzyrea |
starting at series 1 episode 1 might be a bit extreme for the modern viewer. |
| 01:59 |
|
jcamins |
Yeah. |
| 02:00 |
|
wizzyrea |
but starting with 9th doctor will get you into it... then you can go back and appreciate the cheesiness. |
| 02:00 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
| 02:00 |
|
* wizzyrea |
was exposed to the cheese at a relatively early age, so is less bothered by it |
| 02:03 |
|
dcook |
mmm cheese |
| 02:18 |
|
pianohacker |
okay, I should probably knock off for the day, but I need to know |
| 02:18 |
|
pianohacker |
Is the configuration of the fields in the 008 field determined by the material type field in the leader? |
| 02:18 |
|
jcamins |
Yes. |
| 02:18 |
|
jcamins |
Wasn't that just on the list? |
| 02:19 |
|
pianohacker |
I think so. Wanted to confirm before I did the work to make that happen, though :) |
| 02:19 |
|
pianohacker |
Thanks |
| 02:19 |
|
dcook |
pianohacker++ |
| 02:20 |
|
pianohacker |
Whoever thought it would be a good idea to mix encoding and semantic information in the leader, make the 008 have 7 different layouts depending on a completely different field... |
| 02:20 |
|
pianohacker |
that person should be shot. repeatedly. |
| 02:20 |
|
pianohacker |
but then we'd just go on to shooting everyone responsible for MARC |
| 02:21 |
|
pianohacker |
and as SATISFYING as that would be |
| 02:21 |
|
pianohacker |
it would be much harder to hide that many bodies |
| 02:26 |
|
jcamins |
pianohacker: yeah, it's a problem. |
| 02:26 |
|
pianohacker |
jcamins: but then I preach to the choir ;) |
| 02:28 |
|
pianohacker |
jcamins: [off] ahahahahaha, well, only as many as were necessary at the time, I'm sure |
| 02:29 |
|
* eythian |
notes that that is not how [off] works. |
| 02:30 |
|
eythian |
http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]3-09-05#i_1378451 |
| 02:30 |
|
pianohacker |
dammit |
| 02:30 |
|
pianohacker |
but thanks, eythian :) |
| 02:34 |
|
wizzyrea |
http://kohadevreactions.tumblr[…]we-need-more-marc < pianohacker |
| 02:34 |
|
pianohacker |
yes... |
| 02:34 |
|
pianohacker |
I know someone will probably want to extend this editor to support RDA |
| 02:34 |
|
pianohacker |
and that frightens me |
| 02:35 |
|
jcamins |
pianohacker: RDA is supported by virtue of RDA being just MARC. |
| 02:35 |
|
wizzyrea |
http://kohadevreactions.tumblr[…]the-marc-standard |
| 02:35 |
|
wizzyrea |
also this |
| 02:36 |
|
pianohacker |
jcamins: True, though there would likely need to be some additions and work to support the new coded fields, from what I can tell |
| 02:36 |
|
wizzyrea |
and probably this, for good measure http://kohadevreactions.tumblr[…]to-implementing-a |
| 02:36 |
|
dcook |
pianohhacker: That seems odd |
| 02:36 |
|
wizzyrea |
if people would tell us what to do with the newly coded fields, we would do that. |
| 02:36 |
|
dcook |
As far as I can tell, there have just been modifications to existing fields and added fields |
| 02:37 |
|
dcook |
What do you refer to when you say "new coded field"? |
| 02:37 |
|
wizzyrea |
probably the 3xx ones? the medium/carrier/otheroneican'tremember |
| 02:37 |
|
* wizzyrea |
might be wrong on the number |
| 02:39 |
|
jcamins |
There are no new fixed fields. |
| 02:39 |
|
dcook |
^^ |
| 02:40 |
|
* dcook |
is wondering why he didn't use "BatchStageMarcRecords" in this harvesting script... |
| 02:41 |
|
pianohacker |
this was the main thing that looked like it would add complication: http://www.loc.gov/standards/v[…]t/rdacontent.html |
| 02:45 |
|
jcamins |
I don't see why you wouldn't just make it an authorized value. |
| 02:46 |
|
wizzyrea |
yes it seems to me that having that as a human enterable value is counter to the purpose of the field. |
| 02:47 |
|
wizzyrea |
and you're right, it's not a fixed field. |
| 02:47 |
|
wizzyrea |
but it's a field with decently fixed values, if you're doing it properly. |
| 02:47 |
|
wizzyrea |
so I think we were just coming up against the same words with different interpretations. |
| 02:48 |
|
jcamins |
I don't think so. |
| 02:48 |
|
jcamins |
Fixed fields are a problem for a cataloging editor. |
| 02:48 |
|
jcamins |
Variable fields with a defined set of values are not. |
| 02:49 |
|
dcook |
^^ |
| 02:49 |
|
wizzyrea |
whatever, I think we can agree that "tactile notated movement" sounds like a veiled description for poop. |
| 02:49 |
|
wizzyrea |
poop with annotations. |
| 02:49 |
|
jcamins |
We already have complete support for 336. |
| 02:50 |
|
jcamins |
Define an RDACONTENT authorized value category. Link to 336$b. Done. |
| 02:50 |
|
wizzyrea |
yes I know. |
| 02:50 |
|
wizzyrea |
should we ship that by default? |
| 02:50 |
|
dcook |
Probably wouldn't hurt |
| 02:50 |
|
wizzyrea |
considering we don't want to ship a default RDA framework, I guess not. |
| 02:51 |
|
dcook |
Ah, but we are shipping a default RDA framework |
| 02:51 |
|
wizzyrea |
no we're not? |
| 02:51 |
|
jcamins |
Yeah, but our default frameworks are so out-of-date I'm not sure it matters. |
| 02:51 |
|
dcook |
RDA itself is not MARC |
| 02:51 |
|
wizzyrea |
there's no RDA framework in koha by default. |
| 02:51 |
|
dcook |
jcamins: Not the newest ones |
| 02:51 |
|
wizzyrea |
as evidenced by people still needing to get it from the wiki. |
| 02:51 |
|
dcook |
3.14 should have up-to-date MARC frameworks by default |
| 02:52 |
|
dcook |
I suppose it depends on how we define ship |
| 02:52 |
|
jcamins |
dcook: Oh, yeah. That's right. |
| 02:52 |
|
jcamins |
I forgot about pushing it. |
| 02:52 |
|
wizzyrea |
yea, I mean, when you install koha, there is no RDA framework. |
| 02:52 |
|
jcamins |
It's a year out of date. |
| 02:52 |
|
dcook |
Either mtj or bgkriegel brought it up to the Update 16 from April 2013, I believe |
| 02:52 |
|
jcamins |
bgkriegel. |
| 02:52 |
|
wahanui |
i think bgkriegel is on a signoff spree |
| 02:53 |
|
dcook |
wizzyrea: Sort of |
| 02:53 |
|
dcook |
Like I was saying, RDA isn't MARC |
| 02:53 |
|
jcamins |
You don't actually need an RDA framework. Just a framework that isn't out of date. |
| 02:53 |
|
dcook |
MARC did add fields to accomodate RDA though |
| 02:53 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, what he said :p |
| 02:54 |
|
pianohacker |
Okay, now that I've beat my head against MARC all day |
| 02:55 |
|
pianohacker |
I'm out of here |
| 02:55 |
|
wizzyrea |
yea probably best. |
| 02:55 |
|
pianohacker |
Good night all :) |
| 02:55 |
|
dcook |
night pianohacker |
| 02:55 |
|
dcook |
Looking forward to your continued efforts :) |
| 02:55 |
|
pianohacker |
thanks dcook |
| 02:55 |
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| 04:06 |
|
* dcook |
will babble in channel then :p |
| 04:10 |
|
dcook |
Better to encase both timestamp and "from" argument in date() functions |
| 04:11 |
|
dcook |
Or...remove the date() function and remove the T and Z characters from the "from" argument... |
| 04:11 |
|
dcook |
Probably the latter... |
| 04:15 |
|
dcook |
Blearghh |
| 04:19 |
|
dcook |
We're not really using UTC datestamps in the OAI-PMH server... |
| 04:19 |
|
dcook |
But changing that now would be problematic for anyone using it currently... |
| 04:21 |
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| 04:38 |
|
dcook |
On the other hand...if you're only passed a date... |
| 04:38 |
|
dcook |
it might make sense to compare only a date.. |
| 04:53 |
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| 05:06 |
|
cait |
good morning #koha |
| 05:06 |
|
dcook |
morning cait |
| 05:09 |
|
cait |
morning dcook |
| 05:18 |
|
mtompset |
I really need to stop lurking. ;) |
| 05:19 |
|
dcook |
I should eat lunch earlier :P |
| 05:19 |
|
mtompset |
Greetings, cait dcook wizzyrea. |
| 05:19 |
|
dcook |
@wunder toronto, canada |
| 05:19 |
|
huginn` |
dcook: The current temperature in Toronto, Ontario is 16.0°C (1:00 AM EDT on September 05, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1017 hPa (Rising). |
| 05:19 |
|
mtompset |
Yes, it's crazy early. |
| 05:19 |
|
dcook |
Nah, crazy early might be... |
| 05:19 |
|
dcook |
@wunder konstanz |
| 05:19 |
|
huginn` |
dcook: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 13.1°C (7:15 AM CEST on September 05, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
| 05:19 |
|
dcook |
Actually, that's not too bad |
| 05:20 |
|
mtompset |
Actually, that's ... exactly. |
| 05:22 |
|
dcook |
Sometimes, I want to write commit messages that say "take my word for it" :p |
| 05:22 |
|
dcook |
Oh well. Long (hopefully comprehensive) messages are what I do.. |
| 05:22 |
|
cait |
@wunder Lippstadt |
| 05:22 |
|
huginn` |
cait: The current temperature in Geseke, Germany is 16.1°C (7:22 AM CEST on September 05, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
| 05:23 |
|
dcook |
Lippstadt? |
| 05:23 |
|
cait |
doing training today |
| 05:26 |
|
dcook |
Fun fun |
| 05:33 |
|
cait |
i hope it will be :) |
| 05:36 |
|
dcook |
\o/ |
| 05:39 |
|
* dcook |
tries to remember what he was originally doing before he found a somewhat unrelated bug |
| 05:39 |
|
dcook |
Lunch perhaps... |
| 05:41 |
|
dcook |
om nom nom |
| 05:41 |
|
* dcook |
suddenly remembers rangi mentioning Casey...Sea Farer II...English channel swimming |
| 05:43 |
|
dcook |
http://www.dover.uk.com/channelswimming/swims/ isn't too encouraging |
| 05:45 |
|
dcook |
twitter++ |
| 05:45 |
|
dcook |
9.14 hours |
| 05:46 |
|
dcook |
About 3.6 km/hr |
| 05:48 |
|
dcook |
Maybe swimming from Gibraltar to Morocco is more intimidating than I thought... |
| 06:13 |
|
mtompset |
Have a great day, #koha. |
| 06:20 |
|
dcook |
Ahhhhhh |
| 06:21 |
|
dcook |
I finally understand "match_check" vs "match_point" |
| 06:21 |
|
dcook |
Wait, no I don't |
| 06:21 |
|
dcook |
Wait, yes I do |
| 06:22 |
|
dcook |
Match Point compares two fields with identical fields/subfields |
| 06:22 |
|
dcook |
But Match Check can be used to compare two different field/subfield pairs against each other |
| 06:22 |
|
dcook |
So 999$c against 001 or 995$c or something |
| 06:22 |
|
dcook |
Neat |
| 06:22 |
|
* dcook |
wonders if it actually wroks |
| 06:22 |
|
dcook |
works even |
| 06:25 |
|
dcook |
Sweet match_check uses match_points. Less searching for me.. |
| 06:31 |
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* magnuse |
waves |
| 06:47 |
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magnuse |
qateam++ |
| 06:48 |
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* dcook |
waves to magnuse |
| 06:49 |
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* magnuse |
waves to dcook, specifically |
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reiveune |
hello |
| 06:52 |
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magnuse |
bonjour reiveune |
| 06:54 |
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reiveune |
salut magnuse rangi dcook |
| 06:56 |
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dcook |
bonjour reiveune :) |
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| 07:07 |
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dcook |
Oh snap. Time to hurry home. No staying late today. |
| 07:07 |
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dcook |
Au revoir and good night :) |
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samueld |
hi everybody |
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| 08:17 |
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rangi |
evening |
| 08:21 |
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magnuse |
morning |
| 08:21 |
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magnuse |
:-) |
| 08:22 |
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rangi |
magnuse: http://slid.es/ranginui/oyster |
| 08:22 |
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rangi |
go right one slide |
| 08:25 |
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rangi |
done with https://github.com/hakimel/reveal.js |
| 08:27 |
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magnuse |
yay!! |
| 08:27 |
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magnuse |
rangi: is that a talk you are giving, or are you just practising? |
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rangi |
brief lightning talk tomorrow |
| 08:28 |
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rangi |
at |
| 08:28 |
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drojf |
good morning #koha |
| 08:28 |
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magnuse |
moin drojf |
| 08:28 |
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rangi |
http://catalyst.net.nz/Library[…]chnology_Workshop |
| 08:28 |
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rangi |
hi drojf |
| 08:29 |
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magnuse |
rangi++ |
| 08:29 |
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mtj |
hey rangi, lookin' good! |
| 08:30 |
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drojf |
ho magnuse and rangi |
| 08:30 |
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mtj |
the slid.es site is pretty cool |
| 08:32 |
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magnuse |
rangi: seen https://metacpan.org/module/Test::RDF ? |
| 08:32 |
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wahanui |
I haven't seen 'https://metacpan.org/module/Test::RDF', magnuse |
| 08:32 |
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magnuse |
well, i wasn't talking to you, wahanui |
| 08:32 |
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wahanui |
magnuse: sorry... |
| 08:32 |
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rangi |
yeah i think im using it |
| 08:32 |
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magnuse |
it's ok wahanui |
| 08:32 |
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magnuse |
rangi: cool |
| 08:33 |
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rangi |
yep i am |
| 08:34 |
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magnuse |
ah yes https://gitorious.org/koha-mar[…]t/Koha_MARC2RDF.t |
| 08:34 |
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rangi |
handy |
| 08:37 |
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magnuse |
looks like it |
| 08:37 |
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wahanui |
Can we get some hard data on that? |
| 08:41 |
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Viktor |
I can now confirm that magnuse is just as nice to meet in person as one might suspect :) |
| 08:44 |
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magnuse |
yay! and i can confirm exactly the same thing about Viktor, if there was any doubt ;-) |
| 08:44 |
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Viktor |
:) |
| 08:45 |
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Viktor |
And magnuse++ for two days of great workshoping |
| 08:46 |
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rangi |
ive met both of you in person, so i can vouch that it is true |
| 08:46 |
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drojf |
koha web of niceness trust |
| 08:46 |
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magnuse |
and Viktor++ for tirelessly working to bring koha to swedish libraries |
| 08:47 |
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magnuse |
drojf: :-) |
| 08:47 |
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drojf |
i know rangi is nice, so i can trust him about you two ;) |
| 08:49 |
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rangi |
drojf: you met Viktor in edinburgh im pretty sure? |
| 08:50 |
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drojf |
no, i did not. or at least i did not know who he is. i only heard later that he has been there |
| 08:51 |
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rangi |
ahh |
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Viktor |
:) |
| 08:53 |
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magnuse |
where's that group picture again? |
| 08:53 |
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magnuse |
kohacon12 |
| 08:53 |
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wahanui |
hmmm... kohacon12 is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ategory:KohaCon12 or Conference Tue 5 June 2012 to Thu 7th, Hackfest Sat 9th June-Mon 11th June |
| 08:54 |
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Viktor |
I had to run for the bus so I missed the picture. |
| 08:54 |
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magnuse |
kohacon12attendees is http://koha-community.org/kohacon12-attendees/ |
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magnuse |
Viktor: ahh |
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Viktor |
But a quick google of images for "Viktor Sarge" should give a few correct results even if it's hard to tell when different people are served diferent results based on prior searches.. |
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Viktor |
But at least I recognize a whole bunch of nice people from the Edinburgh conference :) |
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magnuse |
hm, there are way too many people in that picture i have not met - i *need* to go to reno... ;-) |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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hm. resending your initial question an hour after my reply to the first mail is not really a motivation to answer again. |
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drojf |
hi oleonard |
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tcohen |
morning #koha |
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drojf |
hi tcohen |
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tcohen |
hi drojf |
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druthb |
o/ |
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oleonard |
tcohen: You asked if I was going to substitute alerts for bootstrap modals, and the answer is that I don't have a plan to do so. I think it would not necessarily be an easy switch, depending on the situation. |
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oleonard |
When importing MARC records, can you match on ISBN but only add items? That is, don't replace the existing MARC record? |
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jcamins |
Yes. Choose to keep existing records and add items. |
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oleonard |
"Replace existing record with incoming record," "Add incoming record," or "Ignore incoming record (its items may still be processed)" |
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jcamins |
Ignore incoming record. |
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oleonard |
Hm... that wasn't working for me when I tested it. I'll have to try it again. |
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oleonard |
I must have done something wrong before. It worked this time. Thanks jcamins |
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druthb |
@quote random |
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huginn` |
druthb: Quote #151: "<seneca> you guys are my heroes" (added by wizzyrea at 07:41 PM, August 31, 2011) |
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* oleonard |
remembers that time... We all saved seneca from being crushed by the Daily Planet planet after it toppled from atop the Daily Planet building. |
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oleonard |
Hi cait |
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cait |
hi oleonard :) |
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druthb |
cait! |
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wahanui |
cait! are you well? still home? |
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cait |
druthb! |
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reiveune |
bye |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10539: Followup for removing KohaTest unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f61160e8ce247aefa> / Bug 10539: Remove unused unit tests in lib/KohaTest <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e4146157da3b8aeb5> |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10737: (follow-up) make the new 'Closed' column sortable <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c88033d571ed6d1c6> / Bug 10737: Add "Add to basket" link on vendor search results page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3629b4733955fd3b7> |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10649 - Upgrade DataTables and move scripts out of theme directory <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]af8eb0b991b8636a7> |
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tcohen |
hi oleonard |
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tcohen |
understood |
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oleonard |
Suggested replacement for the author/subject pop-up menus in the new Bootstrap OPAC: http://screencast.com/t/Gviv7lxr |
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oleonard |
jcamins: ^^ |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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druthb |
Hi, mtompset! :) |
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mtompset |
Greetings, druthb. |
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* druthb |
wriggles happily. |
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mtompset |
Or should I say SkittlesBot? |
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* druthb |
laughs evilly. |
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mtompset |
An evil robot that is in love... What a strange mixture. :P |
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druthb |
:P |
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druthb |
speaking of evil, our Code Monkeys team is having a raucous debate in the nearby conference room. Rowdy bunch of geeks. |
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mtompset |
http://youtu.be/v4Wy7gRGgeA (Code Monkey) |
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druthb |
Ah, Johnathan Coulton. |
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mtompset |
But seriously?! Tab? :P |
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mtompset |
Greetings, nengard. :) |
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nengard |
hiya |
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mtompset |
Enjoy lunch! :) |
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oleonard |
mtompset: Code Monkey likes Tab because when he takes one off the shelf he has the satisfaction of converting a Tab to a space. |
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* mtompset |
grins, "Code monkey like!" |
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mtompset |
oleonard++ # good explanation of code monkey. :) |
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* cait |
waves |
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jcamins |
oleonard: looks good to me! |
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oleonard |
Well then that's good enough reason to push it for testing. |
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mtompset |
698MB?! Wow. Git is growing. |
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jcamins |
mtompset: that's the download size? Yikes! |
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mtompset |
Yep, just cloned a fresh one. |
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mtompset |
Greetings, cait jcamins. :) |
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mtompset |
Greetings, hankbank. |
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hankbank |
greetings earthlings |
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* jcamins |
resists the urge to ask why on earth you just cloned a new repo. |
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* jcamins |
has low resistance, apparently. |
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jcamins |
mtompset: you do know that you can clone a repo with cp -R or rsync, right? |
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jcamins |
Or even git clone /my/old/repo/.git /my/new/repo |
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mtompset |
Just doing it as it is a new install. Don't want anything dangling. |
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mtompset |
So, you are saying a .git dir in any one of my repos could be git cloned into something that would be identical to a git clone from koha-community.org? |
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jcamins |
If you use cp -R or rsync, yes. |
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jcamins |
If you use git clone /my/old/repo/.git, you'd need to change the "origin" remote to point to git.k-c.org. |
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mtompset |
but that's just a config edit. |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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jcamins |
I have cloned git.k-c.org 2-3 times in recent memory. Once to get a repo at home, a few years ago. Once to set up a development repo on my development server. And I may have cloned my release management repo, but I'm not sure of that. |
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tcohen |
mtompset: the only relevant thing tp copy is the .git dir itself |
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tcohen |
(if you want it quicker heh) |
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jcamins |
tcohen: true. |
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mtompset |
That's what I understood jcamins to say, tcohen. |
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* tcohen |
is just redundant |
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mtompset |
not a problem. |
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mtompset |
Dumb question... looking at the OPAC interface. Why are the news items suddenly not visible if you log in? |
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oleonard-away |
I don't find that to be the case in the prog template mtompset |
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mtompset |
Are you sure, oleonard? Because my screen says otherwise. Let me test on my fresh git install. |
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oleonard |
Logged in, not logged in, I see news either way. prog and ccsr |
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tcohen |
bye #koha |
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mtompset |
okay... here's the problem... |
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mtompset |
opac-user.pl |
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mtompset |
It goes to opac-user.pl when you log in. |
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oleonard |
Yes it does :) |
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mtompset |
If you click the koha logo, then you see the news again. |
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oleonard |
Yes, because news is displayed on the OPAC home page |
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mtompset |
Okay... but OPACNav is still visible on the opac-user.pl page. |
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mtompset |
Where would you put library hours? |
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jcamins |
Footer? |
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mtompset |
opaccredits? |
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jcamins |
I would. Unless you want to put them in the header. |
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mtompset |
Patrons are assigned a branch. It would be nice to know the library hours once you log in. |
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mtompset |
Is there such a functionality in Koha? Or is this a patch idea waiting to happen? |
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mtompset |
well, library hours, or branch specific announcements. |
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oleonard |
There could be if you used the multi-OPAC setup... Not sure if that still works? |
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cait |
@wunder Lippstadt |
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huginn` |
cait: The current temperature in Geseke, Germany is 24.6°C (8:52 PM CEST on September 05, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
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druthb |
@wunder 77098 |
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huginn` |
druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 33.9°C (1:55 PM CDT on September 05, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
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oleonard |
@wunder 45701 |
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huginn` |
oleonard: The current temperature in Whitlind Woods, Athens, Ohio is 26.4°C (3:01 PM EDT on September 05, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021 hPa (Rising). |
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* oleonard |
wonders what "Whitlind Woods" is... |
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oleonard |
Huh... I wouldn't have thought it would be valid to omit the "type" attribute of an <input>. I guess it defaults to "text" |
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cait |
html5? |
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jcamins |
@later tell drojf I have a project for you for after the GPG stuff: implement homomorphic encryption for circulation history so that people can choose to save their circ histories but not allowing the library access to that information. |
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huginn` |
jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
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cait |
jcamins: interesting :) |
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cait |
jcamins: you know he will never finish writing his thesis that way? ;) |
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jcamins |
cait: new thesis topic! |
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jcamins |
:D |
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cait |
not sure that would work :) |
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jcamins |
cait++ # for good advice on maple-bacon potatoes |
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cait |
lol |
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cait |
yv |
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cait |
yw |
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druthb |
cait++ |
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oleonard |
cait has been channeling her inner Canadian? |
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jcamins |
oleonard: I suddenly came over all peckish and in the mood for something maple-y. |
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jcamins |
So I asked cait how to make maple potatoes, and she told me. :) |
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mtompset |
multi-OPAC setup, oleonard? |
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* cait |
is surprised herself |
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oleonard |
mtompset: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]rfaces_by_URL_RFC |
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oleonard |
mtompset: I'm not sure if there's better information around, or whether that has been tested recently |
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mtompset |
Hmmm... we'd prefer one URL (easy to disseminate), and use branch code to distinguish post log in. |
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oleonard |
mtompset: Sounds like you've got a new development on your list |
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drnoe |
hello #koha. regarding hard due dates: How would Koha know from the data in issues that a due date is a hard due date and if it's before, on, or after??? I am missing something here. |
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cait |
it does know from the circulation rules |
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cait |
the hard due dates are calculated from the circulation rules on checkout - then it doesn't have to know later if it's a hard one or not, just a due date |
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oleonard |
Quitting time for me. Bye #koha |
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cait |
before means = it calculates the regular circulation period - but the due_date must be before the hard due date entered in circulation rules, so the loan period might be shortened |
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drnoe |
so a due date is a due date. so I am not missing anything there |
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cait |
after means the due date minimum is that date, but it will also be after, if you have longer periods |
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cait |
and then it can be super hard.. being exactly the date |
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cait |
i don't think you do - but i might not be understanding correctly what you are looking for |
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drnoe |
overdue items with a hard due date set are not changing upon renewal (apparently) |
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drnoe |
due date is not updating that is |
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cait |
what is the setting? |
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cait |
before, after or hard? |
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cait |
what's the date due for the item and waht does the circulation rule say? |
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drnoe |
yeah, those were edited/deleted. nice for trouble shooting, eh? |
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drnoe |
this is going to be a wild goose chase |
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cait |
if the circulation rule was deleted |
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cait |
they should renew normally i think |
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cait |
are you sure the problem is related to the hard due date setting? |
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cait |
is there a rnewal period configured in the circulation rules? |
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cait |
is the renewal calculated from today or from the date due (that can lead to see no change, if it's calculated from today) |
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drnoe |
again, hard to know since it was all changed. gonna push this one back with "need to know what the circulation rule was." thanks cait |
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cait |
drnoe: it should not matter |
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cait |
only the current circulation rule |
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cait |
koha can't care about something it does no longer know about :) |
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cait |
you want to check the renewal period setting in the circulation rule and the renewal related settings in the system preferences |
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drnoe |
they have changed this stuff patron categories and all the circ rules, so it is no longer happening... |
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drnoe |
again, a bit hard to troubleshoot when it's not longer possible to replicate |
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cait |
ah ok |
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cait |
yeah |
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eythian |
hi |
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dcook |
morning #koha |
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dcook |
Loving the #libtechdream tweets from wizzyrea and rangi |
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eythian |
yeah, they're workshopping while I'm holding down the fort |
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dcook |
Teamwork! |
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dcook |
That's neat. They're running the workshop? |
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dcook |
Wait...libtechdream is a conference? |
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I just saw them on twitter this morning so I'm totally unaware about the whole thing |
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no, it's a workshop |
