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thd |
#info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City - returned from babysitting |
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jcamins |
thd: you're the only one who remembered the meeting, I think. |
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* dcook |
certainly didn't |
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thd |
jcammins: Do you mean that the meeting has not yet started? |
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davidnind |
Just waiting to see if anyone else is here. |
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jcamins |
thd: right. |
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davidnind |
Not yet |
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JDatTeTakere_ |
I've had terrible trouble getting into IRC |
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jcamins |
Someone could go ahead and chair it if they so desired. |
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davidnind |
Who would like to chair? |
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davidnind |
Agenda is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ng,_7_August_2013 |
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jcamins |
I just passed through on my way to signing off. |
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thd |
I am here now and my friend's seven month old is sleeping soundly. |
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thd |
This is always a difficult meeting hour. It is a good time for too much of the ocean and has not encouraged enough participation from parts of the land for which it ought to be good. |
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davidnind |
Should we start anyway? If there are enough people here.... (A short meeting is always a good one!) |
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thd |
Someone who knows the meeting commands should start. |
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JDatTeTakere_ |
I don't know the commands sorry |
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davidnind |
I can give it a crack - have the list of commands up on my screen https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot |
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davidnind |
#startmeeting |
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wahanui |
if there is a meeting then Brooke must want me |
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huginn` |
davidnind: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, huginn`. |
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davidnind |
#startmeeting General IRC meeting 7 August 2013 |
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huginn` |
Meeting started Wed Aug 7 02:22:46 2013 UTC. The chair is davidnind. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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huginn` |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 7 August 2013) |
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huginn` |
The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_7_august_2013' |
02:23 |
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davidnind |
#topic Introductions - use #info |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions - use #info (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 7 August 2013) |
02:23 |
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davidnind |
#info David Nind, Wellington, NZ |
02:23 |
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bgkriegel |
#info Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel, Cordoba, Argentina |
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JDatTeTakere_ |
#info JD (Joanne Dillon) at Te Takere, Levin, NZ |
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thd |
#info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
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dcook |
#info David Langston-Cook, Sydney, Australia |
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davidnind |
At least there are a few of us here! |
02:25 |
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davidnind |
#topic Announcements |
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Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 7 August 2013) |
02:25 |
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davidnind |
Does any one have any announcements? |
02:26 |
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davidnind |
There is one from NZ - a New Zealand user group meeting is being planned for 21 November in Auckland, hosted by Plant and Food |
02:26 |
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JDatTeTakere_ |
Fantastic news David |
02:27 |
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gmcharlt |
#info Galen Charlton, Seattle USA |
02:27 |
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davidnind |
I'm not involved in organising it, it has been announced on Twitter with registrations of interest required |
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JDatTeTakere_ |
ok |
02:28 |
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davidnind |
Ok then, do we have any release maintainers to talk about updates? Otherwise we can skip. |
02:28 |
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bgkriegel |
All is well on 3.10.x |
02:29 |
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davidnind |
#topic Update on releases |
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Topic for #koha is now Update on releases (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 7 August 2013) |
02:29 |
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* cjh |
sneaks in |
02:29 |
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cjh |
All is well, if a little behind, on 3.8.x |
02:29 |
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davidnind |
Great |
02:29 |
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davidnind |
We really just started the meeting, so no problem cjh |
02:30 |
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cjh |
and tcohen isn't here. |
02:31 |
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davidnind |
Anyone else on release updates? There was the security release and monthly updates fro 3.6, 3.8, 3.10 and 3.12. |
02:31 |
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davidnind |
Good work on those responsible for the security release releases too |
02:32 |
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gmcharlt |
#action Every Koha installation will install the relevant security release ASAP |
02:33 |
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gmcharlt |
#info Koha security release announcement can be found at http://koha-community.org/secu[…]elease-july-2013/ |
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gmcharlt |
davidnind: ready for an update on 3.14? |
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davidnind |
Go ahead with 3.14 update |
02:34 |
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gmcharlt |
#info Blog update on 3.14 will be posted by the end of the week |
02:34 |
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gmcharlt |
#info gmcharlt's current focus is testing some of the bigger enhancements in the queue, notably bug 7688 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7688 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Change subscriptions numbering pattern and frequencies |
02:34 |
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gmcharlt |
#info also working on getting the DBIx::Class branch ready for QA and pushing |
02:35 |
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gmcharlt |
#info Calling for testing and signoff of pending patches, most notably UNIMARC patches |
02:35 |
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* gmcharlt |
was channeling cait with that last one |
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gmcharlt |
questions for me? |
02:35 |
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davidnind |
Thanks gmcharlt |
02:36 |
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davidnind |
#topic Kohacon 2013 |
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Topic for #koha is now Kohacon 2013 (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 7 August 2013) |
02:36 |
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dcook |
Ack |
02:36 |
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dcook |
I was just going to ask gmcharlt if there is a RFC or any bugs looking forward to making Koha compatible with other metadata formats |
02:36 |
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davidnind |
Go ahead dcook |
02:36 |
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gmcharlt |
dcook: not yet, but in the next couple weeks |
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dcook |
Cool. I'm sure more specific questions can wait until then |
02:38 |
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davidnind |
Is there anyone here able to talk to Kohacon 2013 - only 2 1/2 months away now! |
02:39 |
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davidnind |
Ok, moving on the next item.... |
02:39 |
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davidnind |
#topic Kohacon 2014 |
02:39 |
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Topic for #koha is now Kohacon 2014 (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 7 August 2013) |
02:39 |
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BobB |
#info Bob Birchall, Calyx, Sydney - sorry I'm late, caught out by start time |
02:40 |
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davidnind |
No problems, we started late as there is hardly anyone here. |
02:40 |
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davidnind |
A message went out about Kohacon 2014 - don't think nominations close until September |
02:41 |
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davidnind |
#topic Global bug squashing day |
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Topic for #koha is now Global bug squashing day (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 7 August 2013) |
02:42 |
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davidnind |
I think this is just a reminder - this happening this Friday. For details see: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bug_squashing_day |
02:43 |
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gmcharlt |
LET NO BUG OCCUPY MORE THAN TWO DIMENSIONS! |
02:44 |
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BobB |
so be it! |
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bgkriegel |
:) |
02:44 |
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thd |
What is a one dimensional bug? |
02:44 |
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gmcharlt |
thd: typo bugs, of course |
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thd |
We have often declared those to be features :} |
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thd |
... when patching by leaving the typo in place. |
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BobB |
Has David lost his connection? |
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JDatTeTakere_ |
It seems so |
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thd |
We should wait a few minutes more for him to possibly recover. |
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BobB |
standing by |
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davidnind |
Looks like I dropped out - was having a conversation with myself. Apologies for that! |
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thd |
Welcome back. |
02:56 |
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wahanui |
I was trapped in a maze of twisty, turny passages, all alike. |
02:56 |
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davidnind |
#topic Next meeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Next meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 7 August 2013) |
02:56 |
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thd |
I propose 11 September. |
02:57 |
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davidnind |
According to my calculations it is 18:00 UTC, would suggest 4th or 11th September |
02:57 |
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thd |
4 Sep, has a potential conflict for me. |
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davidnind |
Lets make it 11 September then |
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gmcharlt |
+1 |
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thd |
+1 |
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JDatTeTakere_ |
+1 |
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bgkriegel |
+1 |
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davidnind |
11 September at 18:00 UTC then. |
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davidnind |
s/be it is then! |
02:59 |
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davidnind |
Unless anyone has anymore items I'll close the meeting |
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davidnind |
Thanks for everyone's attendance, particularly for those where it is an aweful hour. |
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davidnind |
#endmeeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to the Koha IRC channel. The next general meeting is 7 August 2013 at 02:00 UTC. Please use paste.koha-community.org for long pastes |
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huginn` |
Meeting ended Wed Aug 7 03:00:47 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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huginn` |
Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-08-07-02.22.html |
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huginn` |
Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]3-08-07-02.22.txt |
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huginn` |
Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]07-02.22.log.html |
03:01 |
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davidnind |
And now I can breathe a sigh of relief, thanks for everyone making it easy to chair! Apologies for any errors etc... |
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JDatTeTakere_ |
Thanks for stepping up David |
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gmcharlt |
davidnind++ |
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JDatTeTakere_ |
Are you going to the NZ User Group meeting? |
03:02 |
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davidnind |
A bit nerve wracking, especially when you lose connection! |
03:02 |
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thd |
davidrind: Even with your timeout we had an especially short meeting. |
03:02 |
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davidnind |
I intend to at this stage |
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davidnind |
It is probably because everyone is asleep...or busy |
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JDatTeTakere_ |
Not sure if I can but I'll find out. I am going to KohaCon13 and will only have been back a few weeks |
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* thd |
prepares for laundry and green goop removal. |
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davidnind |
Would like to go to KohaCon, but don't think I will be at this stage |
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JDatTeTakere_ |
It's a long way to go...I'm very lucky. Excited!! |
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davidnind |
The only announcement so far for the NZ user group meeting is on Twitter, with registration of interest to library at plantandfood.co.nz |
03:07 |
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davidnind |
Envious - will need to start saving now for the next one, wherever that may be... |
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dcook |
Cordoba, let's hope ;) |
03:09 |
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bgkriegel |
hehe :) |
03:10 |
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davidnind |
Cheers everyone - back to work for me now. |
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bgkriegel |
Ok, time to sleep, by all |
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wizzyrea |
does anyone remember where batch biblio modification got to? |
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rangi |
failed qa, or in discussion i think |
03:20 |
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wizzyrea |
I thought it was in development but it seems to have gone away |
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wizzyrea |
aha |
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dcook |
Ooo, that would be a nice one |
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wizzyrea |
ah 5725 |
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wizzyrea |
bug 5725 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5725 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Batch modifications for Biblios |
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dcook |
Doesn't look like the coyote got to eat much |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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* cait1 |
waves back |
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cait1 |
brb |
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christophe_c |
hello #koha |
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drojf |
good morning #koha |
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magnuse |
bonjour christophe_c et drojf |
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drojf |
hei magnuse |
07:11 |
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dcook |
hey all |
07:11 |
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dcook |
night all |
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wahanui |
goodnight dcook. You'll be back. |
07:11 |
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dcook |
:) |
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drojf |
rda workshop at the german national library! yay! ;) |
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christophe_c |
bonjour magnuse |
07:14 |
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magnuse |
drojf: wow, waste of time? |
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magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
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huginn` |
magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 26.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on August 07, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling). |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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huginn` |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on August 07, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
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drojf |
magnuse: apparently they switched rooms because so many people want to go. so they have room for some more now |
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* drojf |
is not going :) |
07:17 |
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magnuse |
yeah, who doesn't want a day off from work? ;-) |
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* magnuse |
is not a fan of rda |
07:17 |
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drojf |
lol |
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* magnuse |
is not a fan of "library technology" |
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drojf |
librarian technology ;) |
07:18 |
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magnuse |
yeah |
07:18 |
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drojf |
@quote 123 |
07:18 |
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wahanui |
@quote get 123 |
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huginn` |
wahanui: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
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wahanui |
...but quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is <reply>... |
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huginn` |
drojf: I suck |
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drojf |
123technology |
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magnuse |
lol |
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magnuse |
hiya bigbrovar paul_p kf |
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kf |
hi magnuse :) |
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kf |
hi #koha |
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drojf |
hi kf |
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kf |
hi drojf .) |
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* magnuse |
had "Terrine au pastis de Provence" for breakfast this morning |
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kf |
hm pastis ;) |
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kf |
bgkriegel++ tcohen++ |
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kf |
hm dcook is sleeping |
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kf |
how unfortunate |
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magnuse |
lazy antipodeans ;-) |
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tcohen |
good morning #koha |
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kf |
hi tcohen :) |
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kf |
release schedule |
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wahanui |
it has been said that release schedule is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gmcharlt#Timeline |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha, sorry I missed the meeting. |
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drojf |
oh. meeting? |
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drojf |
ah, the one with the crazy time |
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* magnuse |
thinks whoever comes up with an enh for displaying "new stuff" on the front page will earn a lot of gratitude... |
12:40 |
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drojf |
magnuse: public report + some javascript? |
12:40 |
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kf |
magnuse: i think wizzyrea was onto something using JSON |
12:40 |
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kf |
drojf: yep |
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drojf |
oh, that was a small and short meeting |
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drojf |
at least short in log |
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oleonard |
That time of day isn't terrible for me if I remember it. Not ideal, however. |
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magnuse |
drojf, kf: sounds good, but it should be just a syspref or two... |
12:44 |
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drojf |
magnuse: patches welcome :) |
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drojf |
:P |
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oleonard |
@quote add <gmcharlt> LET NO BUG OCCUPY MORE THAN TWO DIMENSIONS! |
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huginn` |
oleonard: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
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oleonard |
What the heck, I thought I was identified |
12:45 |
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oleonard |
@quote add <gmcharlt> LET NO BUG OCCUPY MORE THAN TWO DIMENSIONS! |
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huginn` |
oleonard: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
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oleonard |
*sigh* |
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drojf |
somebody doesn't like oleonard |
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magnuse |
drojf: :-) |
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oleonard |
It must be nickserv, who lies when he says "You are successfully identified as oleonard" |
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drojf |
or huginn` is drunk and looks at the wrong guy |
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drojf |
magnuse: the problem i see is that you could come up with a lot of options for that, depending on the library |
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magnuse |
yup, so two sysprefs and lots of flexibility is ideal ;-) |
12:49 |
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drojf |
do we have sample reports for the public reports thingy? |
12:49 |
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drojf |
it could use one by default and say "come up with the report, the rest is done automatically" |
12:49 |
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drojf |
(if you want somethign else than standard) |
12:49 |
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drojf |
*something |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org The next general meeting is 11 September 2013 at 18:00 UTC. Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for long pastes |
12:51 |
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mtj |
magnuse, CALYX have a new-books thing coming for opac… |
12:51 |
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* magnuse |
is all ears |
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magnuse |
yay |
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mtj |
ill submit it to BZ next week |
12:56 |
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drojf |
a real database manual would say "developing a database". a filemaker manual says "thinking like a developer". i think that is appropriate. no sane database developer would use filemaker. the ms paint of database land. |
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jcamins |
drojf: I don't think that's quite right. |
12:58 |
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jcamins |
The real MS Paint of database land was made by the makers of MS Paint. |
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oleonard |
The MacPaint of database land? |
12:59 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: that sounds about right. |
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tcohen |
why isn't the build_holds_queue.pl cronjob enabled by default on packages? |
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drojf |
jcamins oleonard LOL ok you are right |
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druthb |
kf! drojf! :D |
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mtj |
i just used this method to fix koha's 'rising' footer problem -> http://www.cssstickyfooter.com[…]-footer-code.html |
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oleonard |
What is the 'rising' footer problem? |
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drojf |
i thought it was a feature i don't like |
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drojf |
druthb! |
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jcamins |
What problem/feature? |
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mtj |
its where the footer often sits midway up the page, on opac-main.pl |
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mtj |
...rather than sitting at the bottom |
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jcamins |
mtj: I think that's by design. |
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mtj |
:) |
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oleonard |
mtj can you show an example? |
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mtj |
for me, the footer is not at the bottom of the page - but 75% down |
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mtj |
(thats not quite where i want my footer to be) |
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oleonard |
Yeah that's just the way it is. |
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oleonard |
So making it sticky is fine, it's just not something that should be working but isn't |
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mtj |
(bug or design-feature?) |
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mtj |
ok, sticky is fine |
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mtj |
heres a 'fixed' version of that footer, using that method |
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mtj |
(always at teh bottom) |
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oleonard |
mtj I wonder if that's what is triggering a horizontal scrollbar? |
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oleonard |
Do you get that too? |
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mtj |
yeah, i do actually (just noticed) |
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mtj |
ill see if i can fix that |
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mtj |
so, this is a bug that i am fixing here, folks |
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mtj |
or a feature.. by design ? |
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oleonard |
mtj: You are changing the default behavior of the footer to suit your needs |
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drojf |
oleonard: that has not been the default behaviour for me until recently |
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jcamins |
drojf: really? That's been the way Koha has always behaved for me. |
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drojf |
not for me |
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mtj |
its always been that way |
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drojf |
something changed for me, not long ago |
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jcamins |
I asked a year or two ago about changing it, and oleonard explained that the static footer was on the staff client and not the OPAC because the staff client is more like a "web application," and the OPAC more like a website. |
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jcamins |
Or something like that. |
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mtj |
lol |
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oleonard |
jcamins is correctly repeating the original rationale for that decision |
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mtj |
all i see is a footer sitting halfway up a page |
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jcamins |
mtj: if your footer is not colored, it actually makes sense... it's a short page, so all the content is near the top. |
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oleonard |
So it's good that you're trying to change it in your situation, and you're welcome to argue that it should be the default behavior |
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mtj |
yeah, i guess a syspref is needed for both behaviour |
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oleonard |
Or we could just decide to change it for everyone |
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oleonard |
It's the exact thing I was just working on in the new Bootstrap OPAC |
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oleonard |
...and wondering whether it should be fixed or not. |
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drojf |
one thing i hate about fixed footers is messing up the browser's search function. |
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drojf |
i don't know if that is still a problem though |
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drojf |
and if it is to be considered a browser problem |
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oleonard |
I don't know about that one drojf. What's the problem? |
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mtj |
oleonard, my hunch is that more people want it 'fixed', than not.. |
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drojf |
when you use ctrl+f to search in the browser and the footer is on top of where your result would be |
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kf |
drojf: haven't read all but i agree about the footer -i think it leaset in staff it was different and now it does it there too |
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kf |
drojf: behaving unsticky... /me goes back to writing an article about koha she has not much inspiration for yet |
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kf |
hm actually... there is inspiration... just the words are not really flowing .) |
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drojf |
kf: yes i was wondering if what changed for me was in staff. i have no koah here to test. i only know it came, then went away again and came back. but that may just be me jumping around in git |
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druthb |
@wunder 77063 |
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huginn` |
druthb: The current temperature in Briargrove Park, Houston, Texas is 28.2°C (8:34 AM CDT on August 07, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect until 9 PM CDT this evening... |
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oleonard |
The footer in the staff client changed a little when we added Bootstrap. Could that be it? I tried to duplicate the behavior we had before, so if it's acting differently I would like to know how. |
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* druthb |
sighs. |
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drojf |
oleonard: i will try to remember having a look at home |
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mtj |
drojf, does this page have your cntl+f bug -> http://www.cssstickyfooter.com[…]-footer-code.html |
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drojf |
mtj: i don't see a footer there :) |
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kf |
oleonard: i thin it is acting differently |
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kf |
oleonard: i noticed on some of the popups especially... hm, that it was up |
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kf |
oleonard: closer to the top instead of sticking to the bottom |
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mtj |
drojf, its the grey bit - at the bottom of the page :) |
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drojf |
mtj: oh, i was expecting something more hover-y. i only see it when i scroll all the way down. that won't be a problem. or should i see it regardless of where i am on the page? then it may be me blocking some javascript |
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oleonard |
drojf: The point is that it sticks to the bottom of the page even if you don't have enough content to push it that far down |
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oleonard |
That page needs a demo so that it's clear what it does |
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drojf |
i fail to understand how i would check that with mtj's example that has way more content than my monitor is capable of showing :) |
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oleonard |
Exactly. |
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oleonard |
This page is a little better, depending on the size of your screen: http://www.cssstickyfooter.com/ |
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mtj |
yeah, its a bad demo :) |
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mtj |
but you can resize/zoom you window, to show it works.. |
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mtj |
ie: zoom-out |
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drojf |
ok i see what it does :) no, that is not a problem. it's only a problem if it hovers on top of everything, which i think the staff client does or did at some point |
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drojf |
have to reboot. lol windows lol |
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drojf |
;) |
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oleonard |
The staff client language chooser indeed overlays the page content, though I see it takes up a little too much space below about 1000 pixels wide |
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kf |
khall++ for the holds queue explanation |
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oleonard |
Actually it's the overlay-page-content behavior that was deemed too "application-like" in the original 3.0 OPAC, not a 'sticky' footer |
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oleonard |
Too bad Bootstrap doesn't offer the "sticky" behavior as an option out of the box. |
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mtj |
yes, and yes :) |
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mtj |
hopefully that method works with BS too ^^ |
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oleonard |
http://twitter.github.io/boots[…]ticky-footer.html |
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mtj |
awesome |
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oleonard |
Oh it's in Bootstrap 3 |
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huginn` |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7257: Add a link to remove an individual title from a list in the OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]006fe5763ffa2a090> |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #27 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) |
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* oleonard |
cheers Bug 7257 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7257 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add a link to remove an individual title from a list |
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drojf |
"this routine may sound contrived, but it's fairly common among filemaker pros." |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1347 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1338 13 days ago) |
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jcamins |
drojf: don't give up your day job. |
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drojf |
jcamins: unfortunately that is one of my dayjobs |
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jcamins |
drojf: in that case, I hope your audience is composed solely of jesters and morticians, who naturally would not expect to be amused.. |
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jcamins |
:P |
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jcamins |
("don't give up your day job" is a colloquial way to say "that thing you just did (telling a joke, singing a song, whatever) was not very good, so you won't make money as a comedian/singer/whatever) |
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jcamins |
*") |
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drojf |
oh. LOL. no. using filemaker is part of my job. that sentence is from a book about filemaker. and it sums up filemaker nicely :( |
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jcamins |
I figured, but "Filemaker pros" is also a pun, and I felt it needed some recognition. |
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drojf |
true :D |
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jcamins |
For example, someone pointing out was dreadful. :P |
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oleonard |
Okay, the language-chooser in the new Bootstrap OPAC will be sticky but not fixed. |
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oleonard |
The language chooser pop-up menu seems to work in IE7, IE9, and IE10, based on IE10's "browser mode" tool. (wtf, IE8?) |
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jenkins_koha |
Project master_maria build #27: STILL UNSTABLE in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/master_maria/27/ |
15:36 |
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jenkins_koha |
Owen Leonard: Bug 7257: Add a link to remove an individual title from a list in the OPAC |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7257 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add a link to remove an individual title from a list |
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drojf |
oleonard: but IE8 is my favourite IE! :P |
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oleonard |
IE6 would have been my favorite if it hadn't overstayed its welcome by 8000 years. |
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drojf |
lol |
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drojf |
oh, i am on windows. let's see what an ie i really have |
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drojf |
looks like someone who installed that thing made sure nobody will find IE anywhere |
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drojf |
ah, found it |
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oleonard |
What version of Windows are you using? |
15:41 |
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drojf |
OK, i have seen an IE10 now. |
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drojf |
windows 7 |
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wahanui |
somebody said windows 7 was starting to tick me off |
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drojf |
it says it's updating automatically |
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drojf |
and it has just been started for the secons time ever |
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drojf |
the first time was when i downloaded firefox after installing windows |
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drojf |
oops, i accidentally just threw the IE link into the trash |
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drojf |
i would not want poor coworkers to stumble over that |
15:43 |
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oleonard |
oops, I accidentally just set the trash on fire |
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jcamins |
drojf: people say IE is a useless browser, but I've always disagreed. IE is the most useful browser on Windows: it enables you to get Chrome or Firefox. |
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drojf |
that is correct |
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drojf |
it has its special purpose |
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drojf |
and it is ok in that :D |
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oleonard |
There's really nothing like that feeling of firing up IE to download another browser. |
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drojf |
i'd like a keychainsaw |
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drojf |
and a keychain jetpack to get home in a cool way |
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gmcharlt |
we live in the future! we're supposed to have aircars that fold into briefcases by now! |
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drojf |
true. but there is not even the hoverboard that back to the future promised us |
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oleonard |
And robots never started WWIII! What a rip-off! |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1347: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 12 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1347/ |
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jenkins_koha |
Owen Leonard: Bug 7257: Add a link to remove an individual title from a list in the OPAC |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7257 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add a link to remove an individual title from a list |
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oleonard |
Bleargh, I hate pagination_bar. Building HTML in a .pm is a terrible idea. |
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oleonard |
Who is committer "plg" ? |
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oleonard |
Oh, Pierrick LE GALL |
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oleonard |
that's some old code |
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* oleonard |
wonders how much he would have to talk to himself to break the old record |
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rambutan |
hi oleonard (to prevent the appearance of engaging oneself in conversation) |
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* cait |
waves to oleonard |
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oleonard |
You guys this new OPAC theme is looking pretty good if I do say so myself |
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rambutan |
I wanna see it. |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea's demo of it seems to be down at the moment |
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rambutan |
do you have a link for later? |
16:50 |
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oleonard |
http://responsive.mykoha.co.nz/ |
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rambutan |
tnx |
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oleonard |
I'm back. You can all start talking again. |
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tcohen |
cait did you have a chance to advance with those unit tests? |
18:26 |
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cait |
not yet :( |
18:26 |
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cait |
right now on phone |
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cait |
and watching my dinner get cold |
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jcamins |
cait: does it do something interesting while getting cold? |
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cait |
no, just can't eat while on the phone |
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jcamins |
Cut it into tiny pieces? |
18:28 |
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jcamins |
Then you'll only need to chew each bite a very little bit. |
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cait |
talking! :) |
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* druthb |
wields wiffle-bat. |
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tcohen |
oh |
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tcohen |
dinner + phone call + irc? |
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madcrow |
hello kohaphiles |
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madcrow |
does anybody know how well a small koha instance would work on an amazon t1 micro instance |
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jcamins |
madcrow: if it's very low use, it'll be slow but usable. |
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jcamins |
Or, at least, that was true three years ago. I guess I haven't tried it since. |
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madcrow |
i'd predict no more than 5 or 6 users at a time |
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madcrow |
and that would be a peak usage level |
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jcamins |
Very low use = ~1 user. |
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madcrow |
usually it would be less] |
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madcrow |
i'm just trying to decide whether it makes more sense to build a small server or to go with amazon |
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pianohacker |
madcrow: What sort of things will you be doing? Circulation, catalog searching, etc.? |
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pianohacker |
Some parts of Koha are much more demanding than others :P |
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jcamins |
pianohacker: good point. OPAC is a lot heavier than circ. |
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madcrow |
catalog searching (and initial cataloging) for now and eventually circulation |
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mjk |
there. now i have my proper name |
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gmcharlt |
mjk: how large is the collection? |
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mjk |
between 10 and 15k volumes |
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gmcharlt |
mjk: personally, I'd go for a m1.small |
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pianohacker |
Is anyone here familiar with UNIMARC, and more specifically, the normalization logic in MARCfindbreeding in addbiblio.pl? |
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cait |
sounds like a scary place |
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pianohacker |
cait: There's a reason that while I'm studing the behavior of the existing cataloging interface very carefully, I am using absolutely no code from it |
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cait |
heh |
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oleonard |
pianohacker: I think I saw you mention me in the log when I looked up the meeting minutes but I didn't go back and look. Did you have a question for me? |
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pianohacker |
uh, nothing important that comes to mind |
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pianohacker |
oleonard: thanks anyways |
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cait |
pianohacker: minimizing javascript |
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pianohacker |
oh right |
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pianohacker |
thanks cait |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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huginn` |
drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 24.5°C (9:43 PM CEST on August 07, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
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pianohacker |
oleonard: Was curious if you had a preferred minimizer that you'd used for Koha, just ended up using jscompress.com |
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pianohacker |
@wunder 80401 |
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huginn` |
pianohacker: The current temperature in Lookout Pointe, Golden, Colorado is 19.3°C (2:06 PM MDT on August 07, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
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pianohacker |
goodness, the humidity lately |
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oleonard |
pianohacker: I don't have a preferred one, no. I hear good things about UglifyJS and would like to eventually incorporate it into a formal JavaScript build process |
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druthb |
@wunder 77063 |
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huginn` |
druthb: The current temperature in Briargrove Park, Houston, Texas is 39.1°C (3:09 PM CDT on August 07, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 28%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect until 9 PM CDT this evening... |
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druthb |
whoa. |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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pianohacker |
oleonard: formal build process sounds like an excellent idea. Now that we have a nice fast plack opac, bundling our CSS and JS would be nice |
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druthb |
@wunder konstanz |
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huginn` |
druthb: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 22.0°C (10:00 PM CEST on August 07, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Rising). |
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pianohacker |
druthb: good god. |
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drojf |
druthb has some fun weather out there |
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drojf |
those poor skittles… |
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druthb |
for some value of "fun." If you like *living* in a sauna. |
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jcamins |
pianohacker: which Plack configuration are you using? I imagine Jessie has pretty much everything you might want packaged. |
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pianohacker |
damn straight I have everything you'd need packaged |
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pianohacker |
*wiggles eyebrows* |
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jcamins |
lol |
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pianohacker |
jcamins: But seriously, haven't tried that yet :) Is there something in the Plack config to bundle all of our CSS/JS into a single request? |
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pianohacker |
two requests, of course, but nonetheless |
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drojf |
omg, firefox 23 got rid of <blink>? best part of html ever. :( |
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jcamins |
pianohacker: I believe there is, but I was just wondering if you were using Starman, Plack, or... |
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jcamins |
And I don't use Plack for static content. |
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pianohacker |
gotcha |
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* druthb |
chucks Skittles at drojf. |
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pianohacker |
blinking skittles? |
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gmcharlt |
druthb: there's always the marquee tag |
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gmcharlt |
er, rather, drojf ^^ |
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pianohacker |
I was tempted to find the irssi blink keyboard shortcut, but didn't want a ban enough |
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cait |
marquee tag? |
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druthb |
drojf: If you really miss <blink>, you could do it with JS: http://www.htmlmarquee.com/blink.html |
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gmcharlt |
cait: http://zadi.librarypolice.com/~gmc/ |
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cait |
aaaaw |
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drojf |
lol druthb |
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cait |
we should have a new opac template using marquee all over... |
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druthb |
cait! |
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druthb |
ew! |
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* gmcharlt |
hears screaming from Athens, OH |
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drojf |
druthb: that goes great together with ff23 hiding the option to diable javascript! :( |
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druthb |
poor oleonard. |
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drojf |
*disable |
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* druthb |
gets out the wiffle bat again. |
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jcamins |
drojf: why would they do that? |
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drojf |
jcamins: i don't know. and i disapprove |
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jcamins |
I guess everyone just uses noscript. |
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drojf |
you can do it in about:config. why would i want to search the entrails of my browser for that? :( |
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drojf |
heh yeah i was just wondering if that is the reason |
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oleonard |
Because regular folks don't want to disable JavaScript but do want an inferior Firebug clone built in. |
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* drojf |
does not use noscript |
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jcamins |
I use noscript. |
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jcamins |
And requestpolicy. |
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druthb |
http://www.southparkstudios.co[…]ath-by-wiffle-bat |
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drojf |
oleonard: haha yeah that thing sucks. they tried to make us use it at the firefoxos appday. "but, hm, of course you can also use firebug if you like" |
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drojf |
jcamins: i use requestpolicy |
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drojf |
well, there is noscript in the tor browser. |
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drojf |
i don't really trust it |
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* oleonard |
hadn't heard of requestpolicy |
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jcamins |
Oh, yeah, I was wondering about that developer tool. Is it useful in some way that I have failed to recognize? |
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jcamins |
Because I find it absolutely worthless. |
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oleonard |
Every time I try to use it (usually because I clicked the wrong "inspect" menu item) I get frustrated that it doesn't do something Firebug does |
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jcamins |
oleonard: requestpolicy is great. The only way to get rid of Facebook. |
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jcamins |
And Twitter. |
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wahanui |
it has been said that twitter is quite invasive of culture. :) |
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jcamins |
And Google plus, too. |
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jcamins |
But Facebook is the worst. |
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jcamins |
"Hi, I see you did a Google search for 'why won't the bloody edges just link already?'. I will post that to Facebook." |
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drojf |
ok, then it is not just me ragrding the dev thing. i just don't understand how to do qanything i would like to do woth it. i gave up, guessing that it can't do things i want to do |
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drojf |
*regarding |
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drojf |
woah my typing is great |
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drojf |
oh, but ff23 has great new "social" things now |
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* oleonard |
dashes off |
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drojf |
it sounded like what jcamins just described ;) |
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jcamins |
Hey... is it just me or do we have an ff23 variable in one of our cataloging plugins? |
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jcamins |
Or something very similar. |
20:33 |
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jcamins |
Pretty sure we do. |
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pianohacker |
for normarc 008, yeah :) |
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* jcamins |
weeps. |
20:33 |
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pianohacker |
fun times: [theo]:~/p/koha> wc -l koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/cataloguing/value_builder/normarc_field_008.tt |
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jcamins |
Most horrible thing ever. |
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pianohacker |
4520 koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/cataloguing/value_builder/normarc_field_008.tt |
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jcamins |
(the most horrible thing ever being that I knew that) |
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* pianohacker |
would like this opportunity to mention ag, the silver searcher, and its ability to bring kittens and puppies down from the heavens when run on an SSD |
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jcamins |
pianohacker: intriguing. |
20:37 |
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pianohacker |
jcamins: Can search the entire Koha code base for f23 in under a second |
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jcamins |
Wow. |
20:38 |
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jcamins |
Not packaged for Ubuntu Precise. |
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jcamins |
But here's a PPA. |
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jcamins |
For raring only. |
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jcamins |
So much for that. |
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pianohacker |
updates are slow these days, may be worth just building from source |
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wizzyrea |
for fun, anybody who's around, please click on the link up there for the responsive demo? |
21:57 |
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cait |
hm link? |
21:57 |
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wizzyrea |
nope, you'll have to backscroll :P |
21:57 |
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cait |
oh don't be mean :) |
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cait |
i am trying to write unit tests! |
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cait |
preety |
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cait |
pretty |
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cait |
hm |
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rangi |
nice and fast too |
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cait |
what's that thing on the left from Cart? |
22:01 |
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cait |
and it does look really nice :) |
22:01 |
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wizzyrea |
yea, some idiot in chicago was performing a search every 2 seconds, then spidering every result and downloading every format of record. |
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cait |
can make it really small too |
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* wizzyrea |
had nothing to do with how nice it looks |
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wizzyrea |
hey moron, go get the records from gutenberg, that's where I got em. |
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jcamins |
cait: an artifact that oleonard hasn't removed yet. |
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wizzyrea |
well it's the bit that shows the number of things in your cart |
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wizzyrea |
It should show 0 |
22:04 |
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wizzyrea |
looks ok when there's stuff in the cart |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
is it me or does Cancelreserve not return anything useful? |
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cait |
or AddReserve... while we are on it |
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cait |
yay |
22:18 |
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cait |
23 tests pass |
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wizzyrea |
\o/ |
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mtj |
oooh, responsive is looking real nice |
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mtj |
very sooothing... |
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wizzyrea |
it's rather low contrast really, but those colors come from CCSR |
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mtj |
yep, but its a nice blank canvas for skinning/theming |
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