| Time |
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Message |
| 00:02 |
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mtompset |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C[…]ext_Generation%29 |
| 00:02 |
|
mtompset |
I still think it is could be you, dcook. ;) |
| 00:02 |
|
pianohacker |
Buenas noches all |
| 00:02 |
|
dcook |
Ok... |
| 00:02 |
|
dcook |
night pianohacker |
| 00:03 |
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mtompset |
Good night, pianohacker. |
| 00:10 |
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| 01:05 |
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| 01:55 |
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jcamins |
Wow. |
| 01:55 |
|
jcamins |
Those orange-mint sugar cookies are magnificent. |
| 01:58 |
|
mtompset |
ARG! What are my two parameters disappearing into thin air?! |
| 01:58 |
|
mtompset |
^what^why^ |
| 01:58 |
|
jcamins |
mtompset: insufficient orange-mint. |
| 01:58 |
|
jcamins |
Fortunately, my cookies do not share that problem. |
| 01:58 |
|
mtompset |
not allowed on my diet. :( |
| 01:59 |
|
dcook |
Mmm orange-mint sugar cookies. |
| 01:59 |
|
jcamins |
You can't have orange-mint? |
| 01:59 |
|
mtompset |
no sugar allowed. |
| 01:59 |
|
jcamins |
Orange-mint is an herb. |
| 01:59 |
|
mtompset |
fake sugars fine, but not sugars. |
| 01:59 |
|
mtompset |
cookies are sugar. |
| 02:00 |
|
jcamins |
Right, but your problem is the lacking orange-mint. |
| 02:00 |
|
mtompset |
also, not allowed fruits in this phase of my diet. |
| 02:00 |
|
jcamins |
No fruit involved. |
| 02:00 |
|
mtompset |
or is orange-mint a particular kind of mint? |
| 02:00 |
|
jcamins |
It's a variety of mint. |
| 02:00 |
|
mtompset |
then I should be allowed that. :) |
| 02:01 |
|
mtompset |
OH SHOOT! |
| 02:01 |
|
* dcook |
's stomach grumbles. |
| 02:01 |
|
mtompset |
The soft drink I am drinking, I thought was diet. |
| 02:01 |
|
dcook |
:O |
| 02:02 |
|
mtompset |
Now I need to do a strict water only! |
| 02:02 |
|
mtompset |
And exercise like crazy! |
| 02:02 |
|
dcook |
Strict water and exercise probably make sense already |
| 02:02 |
|
* dcook |
says somewhat hypocritically...having not exercised much lately |
| 02:02 |
|
dcook |
There might be 5 soda cans near me as well... |
| 02:02 |
|
dcook |
Usually, I'm a water only sort of person though. |
| 02:03 |
|
dcook |
Well, water and beer |
| 02:03 |
|
mtompset |
ARG! I had 66g of sugar! |
| 02:03 |
|
dcook |
O_o |
| 02:03 |
|
dcook |
Holy crap. What were you drinking? |
| 02:03 |
|
dcook |
I thought a can of soda had ~42g |
| 02:03 |
|
dcook |
Wow...my cherry coke had exactly 42g |
| 02:03 |
|
cjh |
depends on how large a 'can' is |
| 02:03 |
|
dcook |
American can :) |
| 02:03 |
|
dcook |
355 ml |
| 02:03 |
|
dcook |
12 fl oz |
| 02:03 |
|
mtompset |
oh shoot... more. |
| 02:04 |
|
cjh |
dcook: so a small can :p |
| 02:04 |
|
dcook |
cjh: Yep. An imported can ;) |
| 02:04 |
|
mtompset |
curses! My diet is ruined for today. |
| 02:04 |
|
dcook |
Run around the block out of the question? |
| 02:04 |
|
dcook |
Oooh...I should start doing that |
| 02:05 |
|
cjh |
find 12 flights of stairs, that will sort it out. |
| 02:05 |
|
dcook |
There is a racetrack and outdoor gym just across the street from the office |
| 02:05 |
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* dcook |
runs around the racetrack. Not in it...poor dogs :( |
| 02:05 |
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| 02:05 |
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dcook |
\o tcohen |
| 02:05 |
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cjh |
tcohen: hello there :) |
| 02:05 |
|
tcohen |
hi cjh dcook |
| 02:06 |
|
tcohen |
i've just arrived home, after a two hour tennis match |
| 02:06 |
|
cjh |
nice |
| 02:06 |
|
dcook |
Playing or watching? |
| 02:06 |
|
tcohen |
being here is a symptom of madness |
| 02:06 |
|
* dcook |
has never played tennis, so that might be a ridiculous question |
| 02:06 |
|
mtompset |
Greetings tcohen |
| 02:06 |
|
tcohen |
winning :-D |
| 02:06 |
|
dcook |
:D |
| 02:06 |
|
cjh |
congrats |
| 02:07 |
|
dcook |
Certainly a symptom of madness, but you're in good company ;) |
| 02:07 |
|
mtompset |
so, can anyone explain how a perl function seemingly ignores two parameters passed to it? |
| 02:07 |
|
dcook |
I'd suggest it was a mistake that the coder made :p |
| 02:07 |
|
dcook |
Depends on how you're picking up the parameters? |
| 02:07 |
|
dcook |
shift or @_? |
| 02:07 |
|
mtompset |
it's losing it both ways! |
| 02:08 |
|
dcook |
Sounds bizarre. You're sure it's actually being passed in intact? |
| 02:08 |
|
mtompset |
The print is right after the @_ |
| 02:09 |
|
dcook |
Right, but are you printing before you pass it to the function? |
| 02:09 |
|
dcook |
Maybe it's getting "lost" before it makes it there |
| 02:09 |
|
cjh |
mtompset: post the code to a pastebin |
| 02:09 |
|
mtompset |
I'm passing 'stupid' and 'mtompset' as hard coded strings. |
| 02:09 |
|
dcook |
lol |
| 02:09 |
|
cjh |
mtompset: ideone.com |
| 02:09 |
|
dcook |
Neato |
| 02:11 |
|
dcook |
Not sure, mtompset. I'd have to see it to figure it out. |
| 02:11 |
|
dcook |
jcamins: Do you bake while you code? |
| 02:11 |
|
dcook |
As in, you whip it together and bake it while you work? |
| 02:11 |
|
jcamins |
dcook: sometimes. |
| 02:11 |
|
dcook |
I can't stop thinking about orange-mint sugar cookies now... |
| 02:11 |
|
jcamins |
Not this time because the cookies were kind of high-maintenance. |
| 02:12 |
|
pastebot |
"mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "where is the 'stupid' 'mtompset'?!" (25 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/136 |
| 02:14 |
|
mtompset |
Any ideas? |
| 02:14 |
|
wahanui |
Any ideas are welcome :) |
| 02:15 |
|
jcamins |
Yeah, this came out really well. |
| 02:15 |
|
cjh |
mtompset: are you sure that is the code you are running? |
| 02:16 |
|
mtompset |
I'll put extra prints in... just a second. |
| 02:16 |
|
dcook |
Yeah...I don't see anything for flagsrequired either |
| 02:16 |
|
dcook |
I'm thinking you're running a different checkauth |
| 02:16 |
|
dcook |
I know there are a few |
| 02:16 |
|
dcook |
I beat myself up over that one once |
| 02:17 |
|
cjh |
although if you added that print then it must be the one you think |
| 02:17 |
|
cjh |
my guess was your PERL5LIB was wrong, but that doesn't work if you added the print statement yourself. |
| 02:18 |
|
cjh |
mtompset: since you aren't using shift you could also use Data::Dumper; die Dumper @_; |
| 02:18 |
|
mtompset |
Hmmm.... strange... |
| 02:19 |
|
mtompset |
maybe my hack.pl isn't the right onw. |
| 02:19 |
|
mtompset |
one. |
| 02:19 |
|
cjh |
it looks like you are seeing the output for some other called to checkauth, I can't see anything wrong with your arg handling or how you are calling it. |
| 02:20 |
|
cjh |
s/called/call/ # my typing is rubbish |
| 02:28 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Starting build #18 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) |
| 02:31 |
|
mtompset |
the advantage of sharing code... you can toss everything away, pull back your shared copy and restart. Maybe a fresh look will solve this. :) |
| 02:57 |
|
mtompset |
YES! |
| 02:57 |
|
mtompset |
I'm made a step closer to cleaner code. |
| 02:58 |
|
mtompset |
^I'm^I've^ |
| 02:58 |
|
mtompset |
But clearly my grammar has not. |
| 03:08 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Project master_maria build #18: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/master_maria/18/ |
| 03:20 |
|
mtompset |
YAY! No more hardcoded ip addresses in my hack. :) |
| 03:35 |
|
* dcook |
wonders who wrote the MARC bibliographic framework test |
| 03:35 |
|
dcook |
These are some...not very helpful warnings |
| 03:36 |
|
jcamins |
dcook: if you have a complaint, I have a guess. |
| 03:36 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
| 03:36 |
|
* jcamins |
was wrong. |
| 03:37 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Starting build #19 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) |
| 03:38 |
|
dcook |
It probably makes sense...somehow |
| 03:55 |
|
dcook |
Obscure messages almost done.. |
| 03:55 |
|
dcook |
I'm sure this one makes some sort of sense: "There is more than 1 MARC tag related to items tab (10) : 952,999," |
| 03:56 |
|
dcook |
Ah, got it |
| 03:56 |
|
dcook |
Done! ^_^ |
| 03:56 |
|
dcook |
With the exception of the biblionumber warning...the rest made sense in the end? Sort of.. |
| 03:57 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, still getting a software error... |
| 03:58 |
|
wizzyrea |
what's the error? |
| 03:58 |
|
pastebot |
"dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "When I try to add an item..." (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/137 |
| 03:58 |
|
dcook |
But the other one that I noticed first is... |
| 03:59 |
|
pastebot |
"dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "When I try to edit an item..." (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/138 |
| 03:59 |
|
dcook |
I figure the framework is quite wonky |
| 04:01 |
|
wizzyrea |
did you remove the mapping to koha item type? |
| 04:01 |
|
dcook |
Something hidden that shouldn't be hidden, me thinks |
| 04:01 |
|
wizzyrea |
deleted more likely |
| 04:01 |
|
dcook |
The mappings look all right from what I can tell |
| 04:01 |
|
dcook |
Both in Koha => Marc mapping, and the framework |
| 04:08 |
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| 04:09 |
|
dcook |
Nuked the framework and uploaded a new one. |
| 04:09 |
|
dcook |
Problem solved. |
| 04:09 |
|
wizzyrea |
hehe |
| 04:10 |
|
wizzyrea |
much easier than trying to figure out what you've deleted |
| 04:10 |
|
wizzyrea |
:P |
| 04:10 |
|
dcook |
I didn't delete anything :p |
| 04:10 |
|
wizzyrea |
you = the person who did it, not you in the specific |
| 04:10 |
|
wizzyrea |
^.^ |
| 04:10 |
|
dcook |
Ah, yes, well, right then. |
| 04:10 |
|
dcook |
;) |
| 04:10 |
|
wizzyrea |
easier than trying to figure out what the person who deleted the fields deleted. |
| 04:10 |
|
wizzyrea |
there. |
| 04:10 |
|
dcook |
Actually... |
| 04:11 |
|
dcook |
It might've been that original framework error |
| 04:11 |
|
dcook |
And then it might've been fixed by fixing the framework |
| 04:11 |
|
dcook |
But I didn't flush the cache |
| 04:11 |
|
dcook |
I just did after uploading the new framework as stuff still seemed borked |
| 04:11 |
|
wizzyrea |
ah could be |
| 04:12 |
|
dcook |
Hmm |
| 04:18 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Project master_maria build #19: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/master_maria/19/ |
| 04:18 |
|
dcook |
Booo |
| 04:18 |
|
dcook |
Go on master_maria! |
| 04:18 |
|
rangi |
http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Build/testReport/ |
| 04:18 |
|
rangi |
only those failing |
| 04:19 |
|
dcook |
Oooh. Nearly there, eh? |
| 04:19 |
|
rangi |
yep |
| 04:19 |
|
rangi |
(upgrading jenkins now) |
| 04:21 |
|
dcook |
:D |
| 04:21 |
|
dcook |
rangi++ |
| 04:22 |
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| 04:26 |
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dcook |
wb jenkins_koha :) |
| 04:27 |
|
bag |
evening |
| 04:27 |
|
dcook |
hola bag |
| 04:27 |
|
dcook |
How's life? |
| 04:27 |
|
bag |
heya david |
| 04:27 |
|
bag |
whoops heya dcook |
| 04:27 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
| 04:27 |
|
bag |
going well |
| 04:27 |
|
dcook |
My secret identity revealed! |
| 04:27 |
|
bag |
how about you? |
| 04:27 |
|
dcook |
Not too shabby. It's Friday here :) |
| 04:27 |
|
dcook |
Also had a really nice lunch |
| 04:28 |
|
dcook |
flat rice noodles with chili and basil |
| 04:28 |
|
THEawesome |
whoops secert identity revealed |
| 04:28 |
|
THEawesome |
heh |
| 04:28 |
|
dcook |
:p |
| 04:28 |
|
bag |
ah I had a nice dinner a few hours ago :P |
| 04:29 |
|
dcook |
@wunder santa barbara |
| 04:29 |
|
huginn` |
dcook: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 04:29 |
|
bag |
dcook: it's almost beer time friday there :) |
| 04:29 |
|
dcook |
:D |
| 04:29 |
|
bag |
@wunder sba |
| 04:29 |
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huginn` |
bag: The current temperature in Santa Barbara, California is 17.0°C (8:53 PM PDT on July 25, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising). |
| 04:29 |
|
dcook |
@wunder sydney, australia |
| 04:29 |
|
huginn` |
dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 19.0°C (2:00 PM EST on July 26, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 28%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
| 04:29 |
|
dcook |
I was telling my wife last night that it's going to be colder in Canada after Kohacon than it's here right now |
| 04:30 |
|
dcook |
She looked rather shocked :p |
| 04:30 |
|
dcook |
http://gocanada.about.com/od/m[…]nov_in_Vancou.htm |
| 04:30 |
|
dcook |
7 degrees might be a bit of a shock.. |
| 04:31 |
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dcook |
THEawesome, I guess it's already beer o'clock there? |
| 04:32 |
|
bag |
it's 9:30pm |
| 04:32 |
|
bag |
so it's more like whiskey time and bedtime :) |
| 04:33 |
|
dcook |
:D |
| 04:33 |
|
dcook |
How're your ladies doing? Ginny's 1 year slideshow was cute |
| 04:40 |
|
dcook |
mtj: You still alive? |
| 04:44 |
|
bag |
Ginny is doing great |
| 04:44 |
|
bag |
and Sonja just defended her dissertation with success so she is now DR Sonja :) |
| 04:44 |
|
bag |
pretty cool |
| 04:44 |
|
bag |
Sonja++ |
| 04:44 |
|
bag |
@karma Sonja |
| 04:44 |
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huginn` |
bag: Karma for "Sonja" has been increased 4 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 4. |
| 04:45 |
|
bag |
nice nice :) way to go Wonja |
| 04:45 |
|
bag |
HA |
| 04:45 |
|
bag |
Sonja |
| 04:45 |
|
bag |
@karma Elizabeth |
| 04:45 |
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huginn` |
bag: Karma for "Elizabeth" has been increased 5 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 5. |
| 04:45 |
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bag |
:D |
| 04:47 |
|
dcook |
Awesome! That's great to hear :) |
| 04:48 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, I need more vim foo |
| 04:51 |
|
dcook |
These merge conflicts are child's play...this is great |
| 04:58 |
|
* dcook |
would love if this z39.50 authority searching got in |
| 04:58 |
|
dcook |
Both for the functionality and to add 713 insertions to my stats... |
| 05:46 |
|
dcook |
Rar... |
| 05:49 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, I wonder.. |
| 05:51 |
|
dcook |
Bloody auto-merge.. |
| 05:55 |
|
dcook |
Huzzah |
| 05:58 |
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| 06:01 |
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MaxSayre |
Hi folks. Looks a bit quiet. I was just curious if anyone had ever migrated from Bibliotech (http://v8.bibliotech.com.au/) to Koha before. So I can avoid any pitfalls someone else might have come across. :) |
| 06:02 |
|
dcook |
It is pretty quiet at the moment. Alas, I've never done that before, so I'm of no help :/ |
| 06:03 |
|
MaxSayre |
No worries. I wasn't expecting a written documentation or a step by step. :) |
| 06:03 |
|
MaxSayre |
Thanks for the response all the same. From the looks of it, importing book data via USMARC/MARC is probably the simplest way to go. |
| 06:04 |
|
dcook |
Well, not so much simplest as only really |
| 06:05 |
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MaxSayre |
Ha. Yeah. Well, that too. |
| 06:05 |
|
dcook |
I haven't checked the link but does Bibliotech have MARC exports? |
| 06:05 |
|
MaxSayre |
Sorta. |
| 06:05 |
|
MaxSayre |
Not exactly. |
| 06:05 |
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dcook |
If you can only export a CSV, you can either use MarcEdit, your own customized script, or... |
| 06:05 |
|
MaxSayre |
Yeah. MarcEdit was going to be my choice. |
| 06:05 |
|
dcook |
There is a "csvtomarc.pl" script out there somewhere too |
| 06:06 |
|
MaxSayre |
My concern is that of patrons who have existing books out though. ie, students who don't return them before summer. |
| 06:06 |
|
MaxSayre |
I assume the solution is print a list and refer to it until it's clear? hah |
| 06:07 |
|
dcook |
To be honest, that's something I've wondered about myself |
| 06:07 |
|
MaxSayre |
I was considering the migration mid-year and wasn't sure how to handle that. Importing patrons, yes. Importing books, yes. Keeping track of books already checked out.... ehhhhhh |
| 06:08 |
|
dcook |
It might be worth posing that question to the listserv |
| 06:08 |
|
dcook |
I'd love to know the answer as well |
| 06:08 |
|
MaxSayre |
I haven't found a way (yet) to say... csv... UserX has BookX, BookY, BookZ... etc etc etc |
| 06:09 |
|
MaxSayre |
Not a bad idea. |
| 06:09 |
|
dcook |
Hmm |
| 06:09 |
|
dcook |
There wouldn't be any way to do it in the MARC data (afaik) |
| 06:09 |
|
dcook |
However, you might be able to do a custom script after the fact |
| 06:10 |
|
dcook |
So long as you're able to retain some sort of identifier between your items in the old system and in Koha |
| 06:10 |
|
dcook |
So that you could load up User X has BookX, BookY, BookZ |
| 06:10 |
|
dcook |
Then scan Koha for those items and check them out to those borrowers programmatically |
| 06:10 |
|
dcook |
I've never heard of anyone doing that, but...it'd be one way...and maybe someone does that |
| 06:11 |
|
MaxSayre |
Well, I was thinking more a of a CSV assignment than actually going back through to re-check them out. |
| 06:11 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, actually, that might work... |
| 06:11 |
|
dcook |
Consider this... |
| 06:12 |
|
dcook |
How to explain.. |
| 06:12 |
|
dcook |
In the end, your items are going to exist as 952 tags in MARCXML |
| 06:12 |
|
dcook |
Perhaps you could include a non-standard subfield that contains a patron identifer |
| 06:13 |
|
dcook |
Then, after you upload into the catalogue...you run a script that loops through your items and performs the checkouts |
| 06:13 |
|
MaxSayre |
That's a possibility. |
| 06:13 |
|
dcook |
I mean...I guess you wouldn't have to do that...but then you would have data in the system |
| 06:13 |
|
dcook |
Saying X has Y until ZZZZ |
| 06:13 |
|
dcook |
But I probably wouldn't listen to me :p |
| 06:13 |
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MaxSayre |
Ha. |
| 06:13 |
|
dcook |
How many items are you looking at? |
| 06:13 |
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MaxSayre |
I hadn't even considered the date. |
| 06:14 |
|
MaxSayre |
I'm not sure I care when they're due as long as we know who has them out. |
| 06:14 |
|
MaxSayre |
Honestly, probably not so many. |
| 06:14 |
|
MaxSayre |
But I'm going to be migrating 4 schools (I hope), so streamlining that process would be useful. |
| 06:14 |
|
dcook |
Oh snap... |
| 06:14 |
|
MaxSayre |
If it was only the once... meh, I'd probably do it by hand. |
| 06:14 |
|
dcook |
There is a "q" subfield for "checked out" |
| 06:15 |
|
dcook |
So you can at least flag that the item is checked out |
| 06:15 |
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MaxSayre |
HA |
| 06:15 |
|
MaxSayre |
But to a particular patron? :P |
| 06:15 |
|
dcook |
Although your system might act oddly if you use that.. |
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dcook |
Nope |
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dcook |
Probably a date |
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dcook |
4 schools? Sounds like more than a few things then |
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MaxSayre |
If I had to give the librarian(s) a list of a checked out books, it could be done. |
| 06:16 |
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MaxSayre |
Just more manual labor. |
| 06:16 |
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dcook |
That's probably your best bet |
| 06:16 |
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dcook |
But...put it to the lists |
| 06:16 |
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dcook |
http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
| 06:16 |
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MaxSayre |
2000 kids, roughly. |
| 06:16 |
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dcook |
Specifically koha-devel |
| 06:16 |
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MaxSayre |
Yeah, I just Googled those. :P |
| 06:16 |
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dcook |
http://lists.koha-community.or[…]stinfo/koha-devel |
| 06:16 |
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dcook |
MaxSayre++ |
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MaxSayre |
Hah. Gold star on my jacket from a teacher the other day. I must be doing something right. :P |
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dcook |
\o/ |
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dcook |
Whereabouts are these schools? |
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MaxSayre |
Anyway, thanks for the help. Brainstorming is always better with more than one person. Hah. |
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MaxSayre |
Melbourne area. |
| 06:19 |
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dcook |
Cool :) |
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* dcook |
is up in Sydney |
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dcook |
You're welcome. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. |
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MaxSayre |
I'm only here for a few more weeks? Then moving to the UK. Hah. |
| 06:19 |
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dcook |
Are the schools running Koha themselves? |
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MaxSayre |
Nah. No worries. Talking to someone always sparks some good ideas. |
| 06:20 |
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MaxSayre |
Not yet, but will be. I'll just run up a new VM. |
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MaxSayre |
Was considering Active Directory integration, but the manual on that says "good luck"... so it's not an exciting idea. :P |
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dcook |
hehe |
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MaxSayre |
You have someone running Koha some where? |
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dcook |
Interesting. I'm always interested in institutions running their own Koha. |
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dcook |
We just recently did an Active Directory integration. It was...interesting |
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dcook |
I work for one of the paid support companies |
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MaxSayre |
The Bibliotech system hasn't been updated since 2009 and the schools pay licensing... and the support isn't all that great... meh. |
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dcook |
We have a lot of someones running Koha |
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MaxSayre |
Ah. Fair enough. |
| 06:22 |
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dcook |
Ah, well, I'm glad they're switching to Koha |
| 06:22 |
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MaxSayre |
Hiccups with the AD? |
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dcook |
Much better system and much better support :) |
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MaxSayre |
It's an option, and the best one so far. |
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dcook |
I think the issue with AD was the LDAP. |
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MaxSayre |
One of the schools I worked with opted for their own choice and it's just as out of date as Bibliotech, so, meh. |
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MaxSayre |
Ah. |
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dcook |
Mostly configuration stuff with passwords and somethign else with account generation, I think |
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dcook |
Mmm, well, Koha has a solid past, present, and future |
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MaxSayre |
Yeah, I noticed that. |
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dcook |
So you're setting them up and then they'll maintain it themselves? |
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MaxSayre |
The whole active development thing is a big encouragment. |
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dcook |
They have their own in-house IT folks? |
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dcook |
I know, right? ;) |
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MaxSayre |
I am the in-house IT. |
| 06:24 |
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dcook |
But you're moving to the UK |
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dcook |
Are you telecommuting or is someone new coming in? |
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MaxSayre |
I'm getting replaced. :P |
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dcook |
Whew |
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dcook |
I'd feel bad if they were left without no one |
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MaxSayre |
I'm sure they'll live. Hah. |
| 06:25 |
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dcook |
Well, it can be tough for non-tech people to upgrade and manage it |
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dcook |
What OS did you use and what installation method? |
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* dcook |
is just asking out of curiosity |
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MaxSayre |
What's the average disk usage for a running Koha install? |
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MaxSayre |
I haven't installed it yet. Though Ubuntu? Debian? Either. I don't really mind. |
| 06:26 |
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dcook |
Glad to hear that you're choosing either Ubuntu or Debian |
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dcook |
A package install, I hope? |
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dcook |
Makes life 100x easier |
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MaxSayre |
apt-get update? :P |
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* dcook |
thumbs up |
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dcook |
Not sure about the disk usage |
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dcook |
It depends on a few factors |
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dcook |
The indexing can eat up quite a bit of space if you have a lot of records |
| 06:27 |
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dcook |
Although I think that's temporary space |
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MaxSayre |
10GB? 20GB? 100GB? |
| 06:27 |
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dcook |
I do think it depends on your records |
| 06:28 |
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MaxSayre |
Koha minimum specs are much more reasonable than some of the other options. One of them wanted 100GB, 4 cores, and 8GB of RAM minimum. |
| 06:28 |
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MaxSayre |
Of course. |
| 06:28 |
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dcook |
If you have 600,000+ records, I think you need over 20GB |
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dcook |
There was an email circulating around recently about that topic |
| 06:28 |
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MaxSayre |
I'm fairly sure we don't have that many books. Hah. |
| 06:28 |
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dcook |
Yeah, Koha can run on pretty basic stuff |
| 06:28 |
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dcook |
I have a little desktop at home with Koha on it |
| 06:28 |
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MaxSayre |
Well, *nix. |
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dcook |
Actually, I have a VM open right now with...2 gb of ram, 1 core, and...maybe 100 gb |
| 06:29 |
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dcook |
Wait, make that 10gb |
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dcook |
:p |
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MaxSayre |
Heh |
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dcook |
But I just use that for code development |
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MaxSayre |
Yeah, look, I can always make the disk bigger. That's not really an issue. |
| 06:29 |
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dcook |
It has maybe 100 records, I think |
| 06:29 |
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dcook |
Well there you go :) |
| 06:30 |
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dcook |
I don't know if "average" really applies to Koha |
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dcook |
Its user base is too diverse |
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MaxSayre |
But AD doesn't need 8GB of RAM for 200 machines, so when the library needs it... kinda overkill. |
| 06:30 |
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dcook |
We all have different ideas of normal |
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dcook |
What sort of system wanted that? |
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MaxSayre |
v-Library. |
| 06:31 |
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MaxSayre |
and the interface is awful. |
| 06:31 |
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MaxSayre |
Koha can at least look pretty. Though I wouldn't mind a slightly easier themeing option. Heh |
| 06:32 |
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MaxSayre |
It's kinda scary. Heh |
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MaxSayre |
Migrating to phone for the trip home... |
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dcook |
There's been a fair bit of discussion about themes as well |
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dcook |
the CCSR interface is pretty good in terms of responsive design. There is also work being done to add Bootstrap to the OPAC |
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dcook |
As for themeing...most can be done with CSS and JScript, but yeah...it would be nice if there were easier options. |
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christophe_c |
hello #koha |
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MaxSayre |
I'm not so much a graphic designer. would just love to see some generic ones. |
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MaxSayre |
Heya. |
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reiveune |
hello |
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dcook |
salut christophe_c et reiveune :) |
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reiveune |
salut dcook :) |
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MaxSayre |
I imagine one day a bunch of themes like WordPress. just download and install. not fancy, but at least flexible. :) |
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christophe_c |
bonjour dcook ;-) |
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dcook |
MaxSayre: Yeah, a few people (including myself) have mentioned that as well. If you're ever looking for a project...you could put in a themeing mechanism ;) |
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MaxSayre |
free time and me aren't really friends, but if something works out. :P |
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dcook |
hehe |
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dcook |
I know the feeling |
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dcook |
Even though I get paid to work on Koha for clients, I still try to volunteer in my free time |
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dcook |
But it's tough :/ |
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dcook |
Some people are amazing at it though and they're the core members of the community |
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MaxSayre |
FOSS <3 |
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MaxSayre |
OSS too, but a little less. hah |
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dcook |
hehe |
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dcook |
Yeah, I'm quite the FOSS fan |
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dcook |
I'm a librarian turned developer, so I tend to advocate FOSS pretty hard for libraries |
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dcook |
hey ya cait! |
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dcook |
Wait a minute... |
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MaxSayre |
it's a good polIcy. |
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cait |
hi dcook |
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dcook |
You said you weren't going to work, cait :P |
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cait |
iam not working |
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cait |
just saying hi |
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dcook |
:) |
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cait |
moin drojf |
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MaxSayre |
Anyway, off to the land of lurking. Thanks for the chat! |
| 06:49 |
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dcook |
No worries. Good luck with the migration! |
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dcook |
morning drojf |
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cait |
hi matts |
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matts |
hi ! |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
@wunder Reutlingen |
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huginn` |
cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is 20.1°C (9:03 AM CEST on July 26, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Falling). |
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cait |
@wunder Upfingen |
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huginn` |
cait: Error: No such location could be found. |
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cait |
thought so |
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druthb |
@wunder 77063 |
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huginn` |
druthb: The current temperature in Briargrove Park, Houston, Texas is 27.2°C (2:10 AM CDT on July 26, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
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drojf |
morning |
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* drojf |
yawns |
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drojf |
a lot |
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drojf |
oh look, there are skittles everywhere |
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druthb |
drojf! |
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drojf |
druthb! |
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* druthb |
chucks skittles at her second-favorite German, to wake him up. |
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drojf |
that will help ;) |
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druthb |
:D |
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druthb |
oooh. two caits! |
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cait_ |
hmpf |
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* druthb |
leaves the zombie one for drojf and #koha, and runs away with the fresh one. |
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cait_ |
lol |
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cait_ |
help i am kidnapped |
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druthb |
caitnapping! |
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cait_ |
hm nap |
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drojf |
lol |
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druthb |
hm. that actually sounds like a good idea. |
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* druthb |
heads for bed. |
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dcook |
Eeep! I'm late I'm late I'm late for an important date |
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dcook |
Toodles #koha |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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drojf |
every damn time someone talks about the MARC leader i have to think of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fnmhj58o0kv |
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cjh |
goodbye internet, see you all Monday |
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bigbrovar_ |
Hi guys, trying to import biblio records from spreedsheet to koha via marc edit.. here is a copy of the spreedsheet https://docs.google.com/file/d[…]k1TY2c/edit?pli=1 I have mapped each columns to the relevant marc tags and also have columns for koha holding tags in 952 |
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bigbrovar_ |
however after mapping and importing the marcedit generated mrc file to koha. I noticed all the items have multiple holdings (8 holdings to be exact) I don't know what I am doing wrong :/ |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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oleonard |
Bug 10649 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10649 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Upgrade DataTables and move scripts out of theme directory |
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oleonard |
Somebody stop me if that sounds stupid. |
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oleonard |
This is a good day to get consent for harebrained schemes based on silence. |
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* druthb |
doesn't think oleonard's scheme is all that hare-brained. |
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oleonard |
I'm just sayin' |
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druthb |
doo eeet. |
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oleonard |
A patch will be ready as soon as I finish this commit message. Two hours or so. |
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tcohen |
upgrading UNC 3.8 > 3.12 its like |
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tcohen |
for i in $(cat instances) ; do koha-create --use-db $i ; done ; koha-upgrade-schema $(koha-list) |
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tcohen |
voila |
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tcohen |
still can't belive it |
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tcohen |
#kohails rocks |
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jcamins |
Yeah, pretty amazing. |
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tcohen |
(of course I already have my passwd file and DBs loaded on their new home) |
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oleonard |
@seen khall |
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huginn` |
oleonard: khall was last seen in #koha 2 days, 21 hours, 21 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <khall> is this as good a place to start as any? |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
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huginn` |
gmcharlt: Quote #20: "<wizzyrea> you will see no wedgie-ing from me" (added by jdavidb at 03:50 PM, July 31, 2009) |
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gmcharlt |
always a relief |
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druthb |
@quote random |
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huginn` |
druthb: Quote #120: "<sekjal> I think time is less like a continuum, and more like a series of git commits" (added by gmcharlt at 05:57 PM, January 27, 2011) |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, huginn`. |
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oleonard |
What git command will show me a list of revisions similar to what the "history" link in gitweb shows? |
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gmcharlt |
oleonard: git log --abbrev-commit --pretty=short path/to/file |
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gmcharlt |
does most of it |
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vfernandes |
hi :) |
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vfernandes |
guys today I've detected that /intranet/cgi-bin/patroncards/image-manage.pl isn't in koha tar.gz |
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vfernandes |
where I can get that file? |
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oleonard |
Thanks gmcharlt |
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* oleonard |
can't figure out why git mv doesn't seem to be copying over a file's history |
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gmcharlt |
oleonard: try adding the --follow switch to your git log invocation |
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oleonard |
Is the "--follow" required to track across moves? |
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gmcharlt |
yes |
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gmcharlt |
oleonard: and to more fully emulate gitweb: |
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gmcharlt |
git log --follow --date=short --abbrev-commit --pretty=format:"%h%x09%ad%x09%an%x09%s" about.pl |
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vfernandes |
anyone? |
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wahanui |
Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? |
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gmcharlt |
vfernandes: whcih version of the tarball? |
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vfernandes |
3.12 |
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gmcharlt |
vfernandes: I just downloaded the latest 3.12.2 tarball, and it does contain patroncards/image-manage.pl |
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vfernandes |
yes it is... by some reason the .pl wasn't in the folder... solved... another problem |
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vfernandes |
install Graphics::Manager |
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oleonard |
vfernandes: Are you in a situation which requires you to choose the tarball over a package installation? |
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vfernandes |
oleonard I always install Koha by downloading tar.gz from repository and install it manually because I've to work with very diferent SO |
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vfernandes |
now I need to install graphics::magick in ubuntu |
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oleonard |
"SO" ? |
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vfernandes |
OS... sorry... ubuntu, opensuse, centos, etc... |
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oleonard |
I see. Sounds difficult... or tedious at the very least. |
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vfernandes |
now I need to isntall graphics::magick in ubuntu |
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reiveune |
bye |
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gaetan_B |
bye ! |
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jcamins |
Do we have a guide for getting started as a translator? |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: 1. For best results, arrange to be born in a country with a tradition of multilingualism... |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: heh. |
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oleonard |
D'oh! |
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gmcharlt |
seriously, maybe http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]/Translating_Koha, but that doesn't have enough detail to be a soup-to-nuts intro |
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jcamins |
Yeah, that's all I saw, and it doesn't really give a whole lot of instruction on where to get started if you are not a developer. |
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jcamins |
So I said "register an account on Pootle, and take a look around. |
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jcamins |
" |
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jcamins |
And I'll provide more detailed instructions if necessary. |
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oleonard |
So you found someone who wants to do a translation jcamins? |
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jcamins |
oleonard: yeah, one of my librarians might contribute to the Greek translation. |
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drojf |
evening |
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oleonard |
Hi drojf |
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drojf |
hey oleonard |
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wahanui |
oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer |
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drojf |
so what's new in kohaland? |
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drojf |
that is not much ;) |
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oleonard |
That's about it drojf. It's a ghost town in here today. |
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drojf |
i blame holiday cait |
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druthb |
hi, drojf! :) |
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drojf |
druthb! :) |
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* jcamins |
chucks skittles at druthb. |
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drojf |
lol |
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druthb |
! |
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druthb |
you're supposed to chuck *cookies*, jcamins. |
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druthb |
Via USPS Priority, please. |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
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jcamins |
You'll be getting cookies soon, too. :) |
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druthb |
:D |
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* druthb |
chucks skittles at jcamins and drojf. |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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druthb |
how convenient. |
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* druthb |
chucks skittles at mtompset, too. |
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mtompset |
too? |
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wahanui |
it has been said that too is impatient. |
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mtompset |
wahanui forget too |
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wahanui |
mtompset: I forgot too |
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druthb |
I just chucked some at drojf and jcamins, too, right before you showed up. |
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mtompset |
Are you a violent person, and skittle chucking is your only release? |
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* druthb |
remembers her past, and debates a way to answer that question without scaring people. |
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drojf |
o.O |
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druthb |
I used to have a moderately-wild temper. |
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* pianohacker |
holds tongue |
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druthb |
back years ago, I conquered that monster; a good meditation practice, and a lot of self-examination did me a whole lot of good. |
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drojf |
i prefer getting chucked skittles at over, say, a bar stool ;) |
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oleonard |
You can't get a good wind-up at that distance drojf |
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drojf |
heh |
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druthb |
I never hurt anyone—well, anyone *else*—with my temper. But it was kind of stunning when people saw it; they truly did not expect that of me, as my public persona has always been very passive. |
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drojf |
so chucking skittles is what remained? ;) |
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mtompset |
Poor skittles. druthb abuses them regularly. |
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drojf |
omg. it sounds like… rain? |
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mtompset |
:P |
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drojf |
@wunder berlin, germany |
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huginn` |
drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 27.8°C (9:42 PM CEST on July 26, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
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mtompset |
@wunder toronto, canada |
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drojf |
weid |
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huginn` |
mtompset: The current temperature in Toronto, Ontario is 22.0°C (4:00 PM EDT on July 26, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling). |
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drojf |
weird even |
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drojf |
hmm maybe a neighbour watering the plants? |
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oleonard |
have a good weekend #koha |
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drojf |
you too oleonard |
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drojf |
ha, once before he quit |
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mtompset |
So, druthb did you get the chocolate you needed? |
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druthb |
yes. |
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druthb |
:) |
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drojf |
so… i can connect with a sip account to asterisk on the raspi from a browser. unfortunately i can't from the firefox os browser and now i fear that webrtc is just not ready there… :O |
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drojf |
Stage Planning Status In progress |
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drojf |
meh |
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drojf |
Release target Phase 1 - TBD (first release planned this year, 2012) <- lol |
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rambutan |
@wunder 64507 |
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huginn` |
rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 29.3°C (3:40 PM CDT on July 26, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling). |
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pianohacker |
drojf: ? |
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drojf |
pianohacker: looks like 1) the mozilla wiki is very outdated 2) firefox os does not support webrtc so i can't use sip telephony on my phone |
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jcamins |
drojf: really? That seems like a rather crucial feature. |
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drojf |
that's what i thought |
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pianohacker |
drojf: heh, "Note: Much of this content is out of date. We will be updating it soon |
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jcamins |
You know, there are a lot of people making mobile phones with new technology... wouldn't investing that $32m in a platform that exists have made more sense? |
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drojf |
heh |
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jcamins |
Sorry, sorry! Logic asserted itself briefly there. |
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jcamins |
I didn't mean for it to, it just sort of happened. |
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jcamins |
@wunder 11375 |
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huginn` |
jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is 27.0°C (5:07 PM EDT on July 26, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa (Falling). |
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drojf |
what plattform would that have been? android? |
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jcamins |
drojf: I was thinking FirefoxOS. |
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drojf |
the platform that exists? |
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drojf |
it obvioulsy exists only to a certain degree ;) |
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drojf |
unfortunately i don't understand the mozilla bugtracker at all so nobody knows when it will work i guess |
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jcamins |
drojf: it'd exist a lot more fully if people invested $32m into it. |
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drojf |
i would have expected an os that is build after a browser to have soime of the cool features of that browser |
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drojf |
built |
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drojf |
at least in its browser ^^ |
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drojf |
jcamins: i think i am confused about what $32m you are talking |
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drojf |
i thought you meant mozilla invested that in building fxos and should have put it into somethng that already exists |
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jcamins |
drojf: Ubuntu phone. |
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jcamins |
A F/OSS project just created a new fully-F/OSS phone. |
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drojf |
AH! |
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drojf |
i forgot about ubuntu :) |
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jcamins |
They got a staggering amount of money so far, too. |
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drojf |
investing in something other people started would not lead to one shuttleworth to rule them all i suppose |
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drojf |
i bet it will have nice amazon integration and other shopsy stuff |
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jcamins |
Heh. |
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drojf |
as if there wasn't enough notreallyfree linux on phones already :/ |
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drojf |
woah, now it's really raining |
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drojf |
at first i thought someone was chucking skittles at me |
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drojf |
"resource://jid1-xufzosoflzsoxg-at-jetpack/api-utils/lib/cuddlefish.js" |
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drojf |
oops |
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drojf |
the unimarc bugs are clogging up that old bugs section |
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mtompset |
Have a great day, #koha. |
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drojf |
bug 10610 has a great title |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10610 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , sysprefs.sql is really boring to rebase |
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tcohen |
is there a way to report what permissions does a patron have? |
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gmcharlt |
tcohen: I think there's one or two examples in the SQL library |
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tcohen |
what's the relation between user_permissions and flags? |
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gmcharlt |
tenous |
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gmcharlt |
:) |
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gmcharlt |
more seriously, flags came first and is a bitmap, where each position controlled access to a broad module |
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gmcharlt |
user_permissions was bolted on later |
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tcohen |
and they have never been merged |
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gmcharlt |
and module_bit in user_permissions correspods to the bit position in flags for the corresponding module |
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tcohen |
if my database has an empty user_permissions table, what does it mean? |
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gmcharlt |
all of your patrons/users have top-level permissions and were never assigned any sub-permissions |
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gmcharlt |
as a historical note, there used to be a syspref called GranularPermissions that controlled whether subpermissions could be used or were hidden |
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tcohen |
you're all crazy |
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tcohen |
heh |
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gmcharlt |
given enough time, without constant viigilence, all people^Wcodebases become crazy ;) |
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tcohen |
i'm pretty sure you're right |
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tcohen |
so, to make a report (for some audit tasks) i need to: check if there are module-level permissions at user_permissions, and otherwise check borrowers.flags |
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tcohen |
gmcharlt: do u know why perms are binded to userid instead of borrowernumber? |
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gmcharlt |
say what? |
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tcohen |
i'm sorry, thinking loudly |
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tcohen |
the param for the call get_user_subpermissions is userid instead of borrowernumber, and it was kind of weird to read |
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gmcharlt |
legacy -- haspermission, for example, has always used userid |
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tcohen |
is that bitmap method sound? |
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