| Time |
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Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
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eythian |
dcook: some of us already do |
| 00:00 |
|
dcook |
Eeep! |
| 00:00 |
|
dcook |
Maybe it's a good thing that I'm over in Oz |
| 00:00 |
|
dcook |
I've watched far too much Highlander for this to end well :p |
| 00:02 |
|
dcook |
Ohhh...there are hidden inputs but they don't seem to have values... |
| 00:02 |
|
bag |
HA yes yes you can carry a sword - but you've got to use it :) |
| 00:02 |
|
bag |
in smart ways that is |
| 00:02 |
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dcook |
That's how jcamins could've opened that coconut a while ago |
| 00:02 |
|
dcook |
Katana > hammer |
| 00:03 |
|
bag |
I had dinner with BobB and Irma last night - it was awesome |
| 00:03 |
|
bag |
they are good peeps - good peeps |
| 00:03 |
|
dcook |
I had forgotten that they were going to be in the US.. |
| 00:03 |
|
dcook |
Glad to hear it :) |
| 00:03 |
|
dcook |
What'd you have? |
| 00:03 |
|
bag |
they brought a nice book that was big for their kids - for our little Ginny |
| 00:03 |
|
bag |
really cool book |
| 00:04 |
|
bag |
I grilled a flank steak, made mash potatoes, and grilled up some summer squash |
| 00:04 |
|
bag |
plus a farmers market salad |
| 00:04 |
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dcook |
Sounds lovely :) |
| 00:05 |
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bag |
it was good… except the ginny pie went to sleep before dinner :P … so she didn't get any steak |
| 00:05 |
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| 00:05 |
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bag |
fly bye larryb'ing |
| 00:26 |
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| 00:37 |
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dcook |
Rar.. |
| 00:39 |
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| 00:59 |
|
eythian |
http://youtu.be/yd6FLETYZ_c |
| 01:02 |
|
cjh |
what am I listening to. |
| 01:03 |
|
dcook |
My connection would only allow me a minute of it, but it was amusing.. |
| 01:06 |
|
dcook |
Why cataloguing interface why... |
| 01:16 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, papa isn't around, is he? |
| 01:18 |
|
bag |
dcook: so I'm getting pianohacker as part of his summer internship to write a new cataloging interface |
| 01:18 |
|
dcook |
bag++ |
| 01:18 |
|
dcook |
pianohacker++ |
| 01:18 |
|
bag |
more along the lines of the connexion but more of what people want |
| 01:18 |
|
bag |
yeah it's more |
| 01:18 |
|
bag |
pianohacker++ |
| 01:18 |
|
dcook |
So what do people want? |
| 01:19 |
|
bag |
all the names we have for it so far are lame - professional catalogers interface PCI - that's lame |
| 01:19 |
|
jcamins |
Ponies. |
| 01:19 |
|
bag |
we should call it light-rangi |
| 01:19 |
|
bag |
:P |
| 01:19 |
|
dcook |
jcamins: Unicorns? |
| 01:19 |
|
jcamins |
dcook: right. |
| 01:19 |
|
jcamins |
That's what I meant. |
| 01:19 |
|
bag |
oh ponies or unicorns is good |
| 01:19 |
|
dcook |
No reason a person can't have both |
| 01:19 |
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jcamins |
See, I live in an apartment in New York City, so a pony is impossible enough. |
| 01:19 |
|
eythian |
dcook: doesn't seem to be |
| 01:20 |
|
bag |
so when one checks an item in - onloan field for items is set to NULL? |
| 01:20 |
|
dcook |
Hmm |
| 01:20 |
|
bag |
yes that was a question |
| 01:20 |
|
bag |
heh |
| 01:21 |
|
dcook |
bag: Probably. I haven't looked at the circulation code in a while. |
| 01:22 |
|
jcamins |
bag: it is supposed to be. However, there was a bug for a while (and possibly still is) that resulted in it not getting set to NULL properly. |
| 01:26 |
|
bag |
I wish I had more peanut butter M&M's |
| 01:27 |
|
bag |
ok thanks jcamins I was wondering |
| 01:32 |
|
dcook |
I wish I had...pizza, hazelnut chocolate, a decent internet connection, and...blue skies :) |
| 01:32 |
|
dcook |
Or all the time in the world |
| 01:32 |
|
dcook |
Actually, I'd prefer all the time in the world |
| 01:32 |
|
* jcamins |
has foccaccia. |
| 01:33 |
|
dcook |
Mmm, that sounds even better |
| 01:33 |
|
jcamins |
Coconut-cranberry balls. |
| 01:33 |
|
dcook |
Well, not better than the time...but better than theo thers |
| 01:33 |
|
dcook |
Hmm |
| 01:33 |
|
jcamins |
I was expecting cookies, but that didn't quite happen. |
| 01:33 |
|
dcook |
hehe |
| 01:33 |
|
dcook |
I had a few too many cranberry cookies once upon a time |
| 01:33 |
|
jcamins |
But they are delicious. |
| 01:33 |
|
dcook |
My dad has/had a side business as a baker |
| 01:33 |
|
dcook |
Too many cranberry cookies that weren't able to be sold... |
| 01:34 |
|
dcook |
Damn, now I want chocolate chip cookies.. |
| 01:34 |
|
jcamins |
I baked brownies the other day. |
| 01:37 |
|
jcamins |
And I also made rosemary chocolate oat clusters. |
| 01:37 |
|
jcamins |
Actually, that may have been a week ago, because it was very hot. |
| 01:38 |
|
dcook |
Rosemary chocolate oat clusters? |
| 01:38 |
|
dcook |
Those are four of my favourite words all together.. |
| 01:38 |
|
jcamins |
So good! |
| 01:38 |
|
dcook |
They sound so good! |
| 01:38 |
|
jcamins |
http://dessert.food.com/recipe[…]eal-cookies-23821 |
| 01:39 |
|
jcamins |
Like those, only steep rosemary in the milk first. |
| 01:39 |
|
jcamins |
Actually, I use powdered milk for that kind of thing. Don't have to worry about scalding it. |
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| 01:49 |
|
dcook |
Quick question...how do folks print out debugging info? |
| 01:49 |
|
dcook |
Data::Dumper or another easier way? |
| 01:50 |
|
dcook |
jcamins: I might have to make those this weekend... |
| 01:50 |
|
jcamins |
Data::Dumper. |
| 01:50 |
|
eythian |
dcook: quick and dirty, ususally D::D |
| 01:50 |
|
dcook |
Cool beans. Merci :) |
| 01:51 |
|
dcook |
Oh...I have an idea.. |
| 01:56 |
|
dcook |
Didn't need to print anything. Went with a hunch, and me thinks it was a good one. |
| 01:58 |
|
dcook |
The original bug was that changing the framework while duplicating a record caused all the MARC fields to be cleared |
| 01:58 |
|
dcook |
Fixed that...but if you made changes and changed the framework, your changes got nixed |
| 01:59 |
|
dcook |
Added in an input to say that the framework had been changed, and it used the posted changed data rather than the data from the database :) |
| 01:59 |
|
dcook |
Perhaps a minor win but I think a win nonetheless.. |
| 02:14 |
|
dcook |
Apparently VirtualBox eventually downloaded...O_o |
| 02:26 |
|
dcook |
eythian: Would it still be MTU related if it was just incredibly slow? |
| 02:27 |
|
eythian |
not typically |
| 02:27 |
|
eythian |
try running mtr on the host that's slow, maybe you've got serious packet loss somewhere. |
| 02:27 |
|
dcook |
mtr? |
| 02:27 |
|
dcook |
Mm, that's a command? |
| 02:27 |
|
eythian |
yes |
| 02:28 |
|
eythian |
and by 'on' I really mean 'against' |
| 02:28 |
|
eythian |
it's stort of like traceroute. |
| 02:28 |
|
eythian |
-t |
| 02:28 |
|
dcook |
Apparently I don't have it installed :/ |
| 02:28 |
|
eythian |
you'll need to install it, yes |
| 02:29 |
|
dcook |
Thwarted once again by not having root access |
| 02:29 |
|
eythian |
ah |
| 02:29 |
|
dcook |
We switched the desktops over to a slower internet connection recently, but this is rather brutal... |
| 02:29 |
|
eythian |
you probably have traceroute or tracepath or something, they may help get an idea |
| 02:30 |
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| 02:30 |
|
jcamins |
dcook: you should get root on your VM. It's very helpful for development. |
| 02:31 |
|
dcook |
jcamins: Precisely my thought as well. Hence why I downloaded Virtualbox. |
| 02:31 |
|
eythian |
or just break root on your workstation. Not having it is a bit silly. |
| 02:31 |
|
dcook |
But...if I can't download anything...then I can't really set up a decent VM |
| 02:31 |
|
dcook |
Unless I just take an image of what I have at home and bring it in |
| 02:31 |
|
jcamins |
dcook: oh, I thought you were upgrading. |
| 02:31 |
|
dcook |
eythian: I agree about the silliness. |
| 02:31 |
|
jcamins |
dcook: but bringing in the image might be a good idea. |
| 02:32 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, I have an actual Debian server at home, but I could make an image of it, then load it up into VirtualBox here |
| 02:32 |
|
eythian |
dcook: just drop into the bootload, change the kernel command line to be 'init=/usr/bin/bash' and you have a root shell you can use to add yourself to sudoers. |
| 02:33 |
|
dcook |
Or maybe even use the current Debian VM I have on my netbook...although it probably needs to be updated |
| 02:33 |
|
eythian |
Anyone have any idea why relevance sorting would tend to just sort by biblionumber? |
| 02:34 |
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jcamins |
eythian: yeah, relevance sorting doesn't work. |
| 02:34 |
|
cjh |
heh |
| 02:34 |
|
eythian |
that's not ideal. |
| 02:34 |
|
eythian |
any way to make it work? |
| 02:34 |
|
dcook |
I always suspected that it didn't work.. |
| 02:35 |
|
jcamins |
Convince some to pay for it? |
| 02:35 |
|
jcamins |
*someone |
| 02:36 |
|
mtompset |
I use VirtualBox on Windows for my development. :) |
| 02:36 |
|
* dcook |
likes eythian's craftiness and jcamins good sense |
| 02:36 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, mtompset, that's what I've been thinking recently. |
| 02:37 |
|
mtompset |
I think the idea of bringing in the image makes complete sense, because a 3 hour setup time just plain sucks. |
| 02:37 |
|
dcook |
At the moment, I ssh into a dev server, but I may as well just have my own dev VM |
| 02:37 |
|
mtompset |
I have a really nice desktop at home, but when I go into the office, I use my netbook that I was using in the Philippines. |
| 02:37 |
|
mtompset |
O THE PAIN! |
| 02:37 |
|
dcook |
You develop on a netbook? |
| 02:38 |
|
mtompset |
Yes. Yes, I have. |
| 02:38 |
|
dcook |
I have a VM on my little Asus eeePC, but that was mostly so I could do something productive when I was sitting in my uni classes :p |
| 02:38 |
|
dcook |
How big is the screen/keyboard? |
| 02:38 |
|
mtompset |
I have an Asus 1015PEM? I think. |
| 02:39 |
|
mtompset |
When I go into the office, I plug in a monitor and keyboard. |
| 02:39 |
|
mtompset |
So, I don't feel constrained that way. |
| 02:39 |
|
eythian |
jcamins: what is it about it that doesn't work? |
| 02:40 |
|
mtompset |
And it works pretty well... just don't expect to set up a VM quickly. |
| 02:40 |
|
mtompset |
What makes me cry is I can set up the same thing on my desktop in less than 20 minutes. |
| 02:40 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, it took me hours to set up that Debian VM the first time on my netbook |
| 02:40 |
|
dcook |
Mind you, that was also my first time ever installing Linux :p |
| 02:40 |
|
dcook |
"*Complimentary one-year trial of ASUS WebStorage." |
| 02:41 |
|
dcook |
Being complimented for a year could be nice... |
| 02:42 |
|
mtompset |
I didn't use it. I still don't trust cloud computing. :P |
| 02:42 |
|
eythian |
mtompset: been playing with git-annex assistant recently. It's quite neat. |
| 02:42 |
|
eythian |
does that sort of thing, except you have control over how and where your data goes. |
| 02:42 |
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jcamins |
eythian: the criteria do not make sense, the query is built only vaguely correctly, and anything more complicated than a one-word keyword search isn't handled anyway. |
| 02:43 |
|
eythian |
In this case, it's not even trying. It's sorting strictly by biblionumber. |
| 02:44 |
|
eythian |
I'm sure it used to do something sorta sensible. |
| 02:44 |
|
dcook |
This traceroute stuff is wild |
| 02:44 |
|
dcook |
Apparently I go through Hong Kong to get to koha-community.org... |
| 02:44 |
|
wizzyrea |
where else would you go through? Africa? |
| 02:44 |
|
eythian |
which URL of koha-community.org specifically? |
| 02:45 |
|
dcook |
wizzyrea: I was thinking the US |
| 02:45 |
|
eythian |
because it's hosted in different places depending on what server you hit |
| 02:45 |
|
dcook |
www.koha-community.org |
| 02:45 |
|
wahanui |
www.koha-community.org is back, thanks to wizzyrea_away and her super effort |
| 02:45 |
|
dcook |
li190-89.members.linode.com |
| 02:45 |
|
* wizzyrea |
notes that koha-community.org is in London |
| 02:45 |
|
eythian |
that's hosted in the UK |
| 02:45 |
|
dcook |
Yep |
| 02:45 |
|
* mtompset |
grumbles. |
| 02:45 |
|
eythian |
so it makes sense it'd go through asia, that's shorter. |
| 02:45 |
|
wizzyrea |
hong kong is a lot closer than the US :P |
| 02:46 |
|
mtompset |
Cursed encryption isn't decrypting properly. |
| 02:46 |
|
dcook |
With all that PRISM stuff, I was reading that a route isn't always the shortest |
| 02:46 |
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wizzyrea |
not if you're in the US ::P |
| 02:46 |
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mtompset |
What sort of encryption garbles the first few bytes and gets the rest correct?! |
| 02:46 |
|
wizzyrea |
the cursed kind? |
| 02:46 |
|
eythian |
mtompset: that would be unexpected. |
| 02:47 |
|
dcook |
So it goes Australia -> Hong Kong -> London |
| 02:47 |
|
eythian |
http://bywatersolutions.com/20[…]elevance-in-koha/ <-- this contradicts you a little bit, jcamins. and I'm sure it's done more than sort by biblionumber. |
| 02:48 |
|
jcamins |
eythian: I was simplifying because I don't give a rats ass, but I was summarizing what it has done since 3.4. |
| 02:48 |
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mtompset |
It is... in my PHP, I JSON, encrypted, and the Bin2Hex. In my perl I unpack, decrypt, and de-JSON... But the decrypt isn't matching, even though the PHP hexified string matches the hexified string received in Perl. |
| 02:49 |
|
jcamins |
*rat's |
| 02:59 |
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eythian |
wahanui: relevance ranking is broken by QueryAutoTruncate |
| 02:59 |
|
wahanui |
OK, eythian. |
| 02:59 |
|
mtompset |
Finally tweaked in into working. YAY! |
| 03:01 |
|
dcook |
Hmm, scathing comment on the blog |
| 03:02 |
|
eythian |
I need to learn how zebra works in more detail at some stage. It's still a bit too foreign to me. |
| 03:03 |
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dcook |
eythian++ |
| 03:03 |
|
dcook |
Hard without a project though, eh? |
| 03:04 |
|
eythian |
that and time, yeah |
| 03:04 |
|
dcook |
If only we had all zee time |
| 03:06 |
|
dcook |
Interesting how Libranto appears in IRC once in 2011 and then pops up to post on ByWater's blog in 2013 |
| 03:07 |
|
dcook |
I wonder how many people are out there using (or secretly hating) on Koha without any of us being the wiser |
| 03:08 |
|
eythian |
heh, so the default (non-package) init script for zebrasrv fails on a restart if it wasn't already running. That's a bit dumb. |
| 03:09 |
|
eythian |
(mine you, the init script I have here is very old, so it's possibly fixed now.) |
| 03:11 |
|
* dcook |
thinks the rain should stop and the sun should come out so his clothes dry... |
| 03:11 |
|
dcook |
eythian: That does sound dumb :/ |
| 03:12 |
|
trea |
o/ |
| 03:13 |
|
cjh |
o/*\o |
| 03:13 |
|
trea |
what would cause search results to differ between staff and opac searches? aside from opacsupression, which isn't enabled in this case. |
| 03:15 |
|
dcook |
default sorting would make it look different |
| 03:15 |
|
* dcook |
tries to remember if there are different preferences for the opac and staff client.. |
| 03:15 |
|
trea |
i'm getting results in the staff client, but not in the opac |
| 03:16 |
|
dcook |
Huh.. |
| 03:16 |
|
dcook |
Yeah, opacsuppression was the culprit last time that happened to me |
| 03:16 |
|
trea |
that is, i'm only seeing a few items in the opac with the same criterion |
| 03:16 |
|
trea |
when there should be hundreds |
| 03:17 |
|
trea |
nothing of consequence in the opacuserjs that would cause this that i can see |
| 03:17 |
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dcook |
I've never used Pazpar2 but maybe something with that? |
| 03:17 |
|
trea |
yeah, not sure that applies in this case |
| 03:18 |
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dcook |
Certainly interesting. I'm not sure what it could be. Maybe put in some debugging code to see what is being sent to Zebra in both cases? |
| 03:19 |
|
dcook |
And/or what's received |
| 03:19 |
|
dcook |
So you can see if it's an issue with the search query or with Koha displaying the results. |
| 03:19 |
|
trea |
right. certainly a good point |
| 03:30 |
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mtompset |
Libranto? |
| 03:32 |
|
mtompset |
eythian: Ubuntu fails to restart the zebra daemon correctly. I installed sys-rc-conf? (I think that's the name), and made sure that 2,3,4,5 were checked. It started up on reboot after that. |
| 03:33 |
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mtompset |
And I recall a Debian friend of my complaining about Ubuntu people fixing things in Debian, when in reality they were breaking it -- because he had fixed it before. |
| 03:34 |
|
eythian |
It definitly configures itself for levels 2,3,4,5 in Debian. I'd expect that to work in Ubuntu, but I haven't tried that for a little while. |
| 03:34 |
|
eythian |
Which Ubuntu version? |
| 03:34 |
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mtompset |
12.04 |
| 03:35 |
|
mtompset |
init.d scripts are partly busted I think. :( |
| 03:35 |
|
eythian |
howso? |
| 03:35 |
|
eythian |
I know it's moving to upstart, but that shouldn't really break anything. |
| 03:36 |
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mtompset |
Can't tell you, because I just fought it till it worked. :) |
| 03:37 |
|
eythian |
It's worth noting that no one else has mentioned it, so it might not be the packages :) |
| 03:39 |
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eythian |
though, I'm not convinced that the init scripts should be starting up at position 01 in the process. I wonder if there are situations where that would cause issues. |
| 03:40 |
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eythian |
you don't happen to have /var on it's own filesystem do you? |
| 03:40 |
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mtompset |
Not on my local VMs. |
| 03:40 |
|
mtompset |
Not sure about the QA/production sites. |
| 03:41 |
|
mtompset |
I think I'll try to fix my log out before going to bed. |
| 03:50 |
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| 03:51 |
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eythian |
hi cait |
| 03:51 |
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* dcook |
waves to cait |
| 03:51 |
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wizzyrea |
cait is up early |
| 03:52 |
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mtompset |
Wheeee! log out fixed. :) |
| 03:54 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, cait. |
| 03:55 |
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cjh |
cait: \o |
| 03:55 |
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eythian |
cait: go back to bed! |
| 03:58 |
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dcook |
5:58am... |
| 03:58 |
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* dcook |
blinks |
| 03:59 |
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dcook |
You should've seen me at 7:30 this morning |
| 03:59 |
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dcook |
I think I was making a blanket fort... |
| 04:03 |
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cait |
heh |
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cait |
sounds tempting |
| 04:07 |
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dcook |
It was pretty awesome ^_^ |
| 04:07 |
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dcook |
Alas, I had to get up eventually |
| 04:08 |
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dcook |
I admire your...stalwart ability to get up early ;) |
| 04:14 |
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mtompset |
Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha. |
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| 04:18 |
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* Oak |
waves |
| 04:46 |
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dcook |
Are we talking about the 1990s? |
| 04:46 |
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dcook |
No, the 1890s. |
| 04:47 |
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cjh |
have to go see portland. |
| 04:48 |
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cjh |
TIL 1890 is like 1920 but with more hats and tattoos. |
| 04:50 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 04:50 |
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dcook |
Yeah, I really want to go to Portland sometime. |
| 04:50 |
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dcook |
I meant to go a couple times with some different people but it never materialized. |
| 04:50 |
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dcook |
I suppose I could go when I'm in Vancouver post-Kohacon... |
| 04:51 |
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dcook |
Google says it's only a 5 hour 14 minute car trip... |
| 04:51 |
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dcook |
9 hours 20 minutes from Reno |
| 04:51 |
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dcook |
Perhaps not practical for a day trip :p |
| 04:53 |
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wizzyrea |
heh the US is huuge. |
| 04:54 |
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cjh |
dcook: could be a good jog |
| 04:57 |
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dcook |
I was planning to get new runners anyway... |
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dcook |
wizzyrea: So bigggg |
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dcook |
Like Canada |
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dcook |
Montreal and Vancouver really need a lightspeed tunnel or teleporters... |
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dcook |
Connecting each other (and Sydney) |
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dcook |
(Sydney, Australia...not Sydney, Nova Scotia...) |
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dcook |
(No offense to Sydney, Nova Scotia...) |
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dcook |
Offence? |
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cjh |
one of them. |
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wahanui |
rumour has it one of them is bound to have a good idea ;) |
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dcook |
Apparently offence outside the US |
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dcook |
Oh English... |
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wahanui |
it has been said that english is spoken @ BibLibre :) |
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wizzyrea |
of fence |
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wizzyrea |
offense |
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dcook |
There's a difference between practise and practice but not offense and offence... |
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cjh |
offence |
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wizzyrea |
c/s z/c |
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cjh |
of fense |
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cjh |
wizzyrea: you dun goofed. |
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wizzyrea |
offense is like, what you do in american football |
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cjh |
I hate english, practise/practise, affect/effect, to/two/too.... |
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wizzyrea |
practise/practise? |
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wizzyrea |
LOL |
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cjh |
lol |
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cjh |
wizzyrea: almost as bad as your slip up :p |
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cjh |
it is 5pm, that is too late to be typing in public. |
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druthb |
it is 00:01 here. Much too late. |
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dcook |
3:02pm...almost too late |
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cjh |
druthb: do you guys have 'sleep' in your country? |
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mtj |
cjh, choose/chose is another silly one |
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druthb |
I don't know about the *guys* in my country. This girl has sleep, yes, but lately, it's been...troubled, and irregular. |
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cjh |
druthb: inclusive pronoun I promise, and sorry to hear that :( |
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druthb |
:P |
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dcook |
Boo troubled sleep :( |
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druthb |
Just poking you, cjh. I had an unintended 3-hour nap after I got off work...fell asleep in the recliner with a fuzzy cat on my lap. |
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druthb |
wizzyrea: Did you hear that Pixel and I will be going it alone soon? |
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druthb |
Lindsey is apartment-hunting in Dallas; she will be taking Captain Midnight with her. |
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druthb |
There's just a lot on my mind lately--about to be an empty-nester, among other upheavals in my life lately. |
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bag |
why's she moving up that way? |
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druthb |
She's ready to bust out on her own; she'll be moving in with her younger sis Libby, and Lib's boyfriend. |
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bag |
ah that's why dallas |
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bag |
:) |
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druthb |
yah. |
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bag |
hey druthb do you have some time when you are at work tomorrow to chat? |
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druthb |
Tomorrow is going to be moderately busy--a preso to do for a lunch-and-learn, and a meeting later in the afternoon, but I'll be around some. |
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bag |
cool give me a ping when you've got about 5 minutes |
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bag |
thanks :D |
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druthb |
okie. |
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druthb |
The preso will be about...hm..9 am, your time, and the meeting is at 3, your time. Late day, for me. |
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druthb |
Probably between the two. |
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bag |
:) |
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cait |
bbl |
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cait |
well..t onight :) |
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dcook |
ta cait\ |
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dcook |
bbiab |
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drojf |
good morning #koha |
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druthb |
good morning, drojf |
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drojf |
hi druthb |
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* druthb |
heads for bed. Be well, all. |
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drojf |
good night druthb_away |
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christophe_c |
hello #koha |
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reiveune |
hello |
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dac |
hey ya reiveune |
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reiveune |
salut dcook |
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* dcook |
has missed working on Koha... |
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* dcook |
waves to Biblibre folks :) |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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dcook |
hey ya magnuse :) |
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magnuse |
hiya dcook |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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dcook |
hey ya gaetan_B :) |
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dcook |
Time for me to call it a night |
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rangi |
evening |
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cjh |
evening :) |
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AmitG |
heya mtj |
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Papa around? |
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rangi |
self check? |
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wahanui |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DJ2xyD0wU4 |
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jwagner |
morning |
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libsysguy |
morning jwagner |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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* oleonard |
's power is about to go out... |
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marcelr |
hi oleonard |
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jcamins |
oleonard: again? |
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oleonard |
"temporary emergency outage" announced earlier. |
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Dyrcona |
oleonard: Where do you live? |
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jcamins |
I suppose that's one way to balance a budget... |
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Dyrcona |
heh. |
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oleonard |
Southeast Ohio |
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Dyrcona |
Just aksing 'cause you seem to have a lot of these emergency power outages. |
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oleonard |
Really not so many. |
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Dyrcona |
More than you should have, which is 0. |
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* oleonard |
hears the UPS's complaints increase their pace |
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marcelr |
bug 9788 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9788 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Improvements for calling GetReservesFromItemnumber |
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marcelr |
just testing: marcel marcelr test ignore |
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marcelr |
hmm |
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marcelr |
agressive notify? |
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jcamins |
marcelr: would you like someone else to highlight you? |
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marcelr |
that worked btw |
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marcelr |
changing prefs in chatzilla :) |
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jcamins |
Yay! |
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tcohen |
marcelr marcelr |
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marcelr |
beep worked :) |
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drojf |
beep? |
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drojf |
good luck with that |
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drojf |
marcelr |
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marcelr |
hi drojf; can always disable it again.. |
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drojf |
you will. soon. :P |
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marcelr |
barely hear it btw |
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* jcamins |
starts chanting "marcelr." |
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marcelr |
so should be little bit awake |
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drojf |
maybe we can teach wahanui to reply to something with a sequence of mentions that plays a song ;) |
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marcelr |
wahanui: where are you? |
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wahanui |
i am a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow. |
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marcelr |
kf is not here today |
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marcelr |
just found a nice german word |
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marcelr |
drojf: Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz |
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jcamins |
Gesundheit! |
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samueld |
hi everybody |
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marcelr |
hello samueld |
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marcelr |
just saw your logfiles :) |
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samueld |
hi marcel |
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samueld |
yes, it makes me crazy, i don't find the solution |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10406: memove div and more obsolete CSS related to YUI autocomplete <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b19c7f5929fa7ea50> |
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marcelr |
memove? |
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tcohen |
the patch author must be some latino with typing problems or smth |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: bug 9370: improve splitting of LC call numbers for labels <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a7fa59eff61e0cfc1> / bug 9370: add invalid call number to LC splitting test cases <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f73d7bed20434b8ec> / bug 9370: test case for splitting LC call number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p= |
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marcelr |
gmcharlt: what is actually the status of 7167? |
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marcelr |
(apart from does not apply anymore :) |
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marcelr |
oops |
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gmcharlt |
marcelr: being sat upon, at the moment -- it is a huge patch which I haven't reviewed in detail yet |
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marcelr |
ok; still have my doubts though |
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gmcharlt |
I've long had reservations about it too |
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gmcharlt |
basically because while the updatedatabase.pl mechanism has been a source of pain for developers and testers, it seems to be nearly worry-free for users |
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marcelr |
it just seems to be a little too complicated for a dev passing by.. |
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gmcharlt |
marcelr: from my POV, it might suffice to simply say (as a matter of policy) that the RM will take resopnsibility for integrating schema changes |
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gmcharlt |
i.e., that no patch would get rejected simply because of a merge conflict in updatedatabase.pl |
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marcelr |
that is clear |
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marcelr |
but maybe we are not talking about the same |
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gmcharlt |
yeah -- my starting point is that I think there are policy changes we can make (or state more clearly) that would obviate the need for such a drastic change to the schema update process |
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marcelr |
have to go now, bye #koha |
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reiveune |
bye |
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jcamins |
drojf: Any idea what "DRUCK_ORT" stands for? "Printing [something]" I think. |
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jcamins |
Could it be place? |
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drojf |
yes it is. place or location |
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jcamins |
Interesting. |
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wahanui |
rumour has it interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
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jcamins |
Apparently Czech cataloging has gone even further in the 151->152 shift and deleted 151 altogether. |
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drojf |
the what shift? |
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jcamins |
To hierarchical place names. |
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jcamins |
From non-hierarchical. |
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tcohen |
too much work + fernet during weekend + being 122 = dates mixup |
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drojf |
ah! i should take more marc history classes :) |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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tcohen |
hi mtompset |
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jcamins |
Though I find the redefinition of 752 as place of publication somewhat surprising. |
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mtompset |
Greetings, tcohen jcamins. |
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mtompset |
who redefined it, jcamins? |
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jcamins |
DNB, presumably. |
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mtompset |
DNB? |
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jcamins |
Or NKCR |
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mtompset |
Some business credit bureau or railway line? |
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libsysguy |
jcamins http://osrc.dfm.io/jcamins |
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gaetan_B |
bye ! |
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jcamins |
German and Czech national libraries |
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mtompset |
Okay, that was part of my other guess for DNB... but thank you for the clarification. :) |
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mtompset |
PHP, jcamins? I thought most people here disliked PHP. |
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mtompset |
That's a cool link, libsysguy. |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: interesting. |
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wahanui |
well, interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
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jcamins |
mtompset: I don't know about most people, but _I_ certainly dislike PHP. |
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mtompset |
If you dislike it, then why are you using it? |
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jcamins |
mtompset: variety in my misery? |
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libsysguy |
he lost a bet mtompset |
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mtompset |
I like libsysguy's explanation better. ;) |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: no, that's why you use emacs. :P |
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mtompset |
Ooooo.... burn! |
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mtompset |
Off to lunch... |
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libsysguy |
ouch |
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libsysguy |
I was tortured at a young age |
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libsysguy |
stockholm syndrom |
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* wizzyrea |
waves |
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jcamins |
Isn't it a wee bit early in NZ? |
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wizzyrea |
yep |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Quote #47: "pianohacker bah, go collision attack the front of a moving car" (added by brendan at 10:15 PM, November 16, 2009) |
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jcamins |
Heh. Very appropriate just seconds after a netsplit. |
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wizzyrea |
pianohacker: witty since forever. |
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pianohacker |
woohah, witty by proxy |
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tcohen |
wizzyrea: what time is it where you r? |
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wizzyrea |
4:27am |
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bag |
HA I did add a quote as brendan YAY! |
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pianohacker |
wizzyrea: My goodness what are you doing awake? |
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wizzyrea |
I woke up and couldn't go back to sleep |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
might as well do work |
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liw |
sometimes the very early hours of morning are an excellent time to get large amounts of work done: you're somewhat rested, you're not yet hungry, your mind is clear, and best of all, nobody else is awake to bother and distract you |
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wizzyrea |
it's better than lying in bed fretting about not being asleep :P |
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wizzyrea |
:) I meant |
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wizzyrea |
liw++ so true |
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druthb |
o/ |
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talljoy |
wizzyrea you are up early? or late? |
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talljoy |
hi druthb! |
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druthb |
Hi, talljoy! :) |
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talljoy |
how's houston? hot and muggy yet? |
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druthb |
very hot and muggy, yes |
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wizzyrea |
early |
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tcohen |
don't u have a ps3 wizzyrea? |
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wizzyrea |
hm not anymore |
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wizzyrea |
actually, currently we have 0 gaming consoles |
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wizzyrea |
does anyone know where you configure the network printing? |
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wizzyrea |
besides he-who-shall-not-be-named-for-fear-of-waking-him-up |
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tcohen |
http://localhost:641 |
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tcohen |
s/4/3/ |
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wizzyrea |
well I meant in Koha - where you define the printers that it should use |
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wizzyrea |
if you are doing network printing |
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tcohen |
if you haven't found it, then it is an usability bug |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: I think you apply the patch and it just works. It adds a network printer page in admin or tools. |
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jcamins |
Ah- if you're a superlibrarian. |
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jcamins |
(I think) |
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wizzyrea |
oh - I guess the restoration patch hasn't gotten in yet. |
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wizzyrea |
that restores all of that. |
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wizzyrea |
people keep removing it :( |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: it's still the original restoration patch that is stalled, I think. |
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* cait |
waves |
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cait |
what patch are you talking about? |
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wizzyrea |
bug 8034 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8034 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , Enable server print queue selection |
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jcamins |
I thought I signed off on that. |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
hm |
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jcamins |
Possibly twice. |
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wizzyrea |
you did |
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* jcamins |
makes a mental note to go for a third time. |
| 17:54 |
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mtompset |
Third time's a charm. ;) |
| 17:54 |
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tcohen |
gmcharlt: have you successfully reproduced bug 10311 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10311 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Holds queue ignores item-level holds where only one items exists |
| 17:54 |
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tcohen |
? |
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mtompset |
Greetings, cait wizzyrea. :) |
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wizzyrea |
tbh, if nekls saw it, it exists. |
| 17:56 |
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wizzyrea |
but I see thta wasn't a NEKLS one |
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tcohen |
khall around? |
| 18:13 |
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gmcharlt |
tcohen: yes, I did |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10432 - Display of enabled status on course list is not accessible <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b3fca5b6480e10f92> |
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tcohen |
thanks gmcharlt, i'll re-check then |
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tcohen |
couldn't fix the problem with the patch |
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tcohen |
(on 3.12) |
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tcohen |
gmcharlt: i should look for it here, right? http://koha-dev.biblioadmin/cg[…]iew_holdsqueue.pl |
| 18:24 |
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wizzyrea |
tcohen - you see the problem? |
| 18:24 |
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tcohen |
i see the problem |
| 18:24 |
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wizzyrea |
or you don't see the problem? |
| 18:24 |
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wizzyrea |
but the patch doesn't fix it? |
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gmcharlt |
tcohen: yes, that's where to look |
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tcohen |
i don't see it fixed with the patch |
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gmcharlt |
tcohen: you are rerunning the holdsqueue cronjob, right? |
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tcohen |
misc/cronjobs/holds/build_holds_queue.pl |
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wizzyrea |
^ |
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tcohen |
any special pref to set? |
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wizzyrea |
what's the condition of the hold you have on? |
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gmcharlt |
tcohen: OPACItemHolds, natch |
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tcohen |
i placed the hold from the staff interface |
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tcohen |
on behalf of the user |
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wizzyrea |
it is item level? |
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tcohen |
it is |
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* wizzyrea |
has to "get up" soon |
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gmcharlt |
tcohen: priority > 0, found is null? |
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tcohen |
is zebra involved somehow? |
| 18:33 |
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tcohen |
(its off right now) |
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wizzyrea |
shouldn't be |
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gmcharlt |
ok |
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gmcharlt |
so without patch, you run the cronjob, the item-level hold doesn't display in the hold queue report |
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gmcharlt |
correct? |
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tcohen |
correct |
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gmcharlt |
and after applying the patch and running the cronjob, what do you see (or not see)? |
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tcohen |
http://snag.gy/J6St5.jpg |
| 18:36 |
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wizzyrea |
and the hold queue? |
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wahanui |
it has been said that the hold queue is fuckered enough as it is :P |
| 18:36 |
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wizzyrea |
too right. |
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tcohen |
http://snag.gy/791O4.jpg |
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wizzyrea |
item home library is midway? |
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tcohen |
http://snag.gy/zrCDg.jpg |
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tcohen |
it is wizzyrea |
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wizzyrea |
hm indeed |
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wizzyrea |
oh |
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wizzyrea |
it's checked out |
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wizzyrea |
it won't show on the hold queue if it's out |
| 18:39 |
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wizzyrea |
check it in and then try :) |
| 18:39 |
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wizzyrea |
i.e. it's not available to fill a hold right now |
| 18:39 |
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wizzyrea |
so it's not on the list |
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tcohen |
you're not that asleep wizzyrea |
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tcohen |
you tricked us |
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drnoe |
does anyone have any information to share on the configuration of indexes using DOM (as opposed to GRS-1): i.e. how to create new indexes or add tags to existing indexes? |
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tcohen |
it worked :-D |
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* wizzyrea |
whistles innocently |
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wizzyrea |
\o/ |
| 18:40 |
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wizzyrea |
yay, and now I have to get up and get ready for the day |
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drojf |
drnoe: there is something on the wiki, but it has a lot of errors unfortunately |
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tcohen |
thanks wizzyrea and gmcharlt |
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pianohacker |
does DOM use some XSLT nonsense? |
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drojf |
(or: it had when i last checked… and gave up setting up DOM indexing for "fun") |
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bag |
@seen hankbank |
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huginn |
bag: hankbank was last seen in #koha 17 weeks, 5 days, 19 hours, 20 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <hankbank> yo |
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drojf |
drnoe: but adding fields is not too complicated. i think just looking at the respective files should give you an ideahow to do that |
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gmcharlt |
pianohacker: XSLT is inherent to how the DOM filter works in Zebra |
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pianohacker |
figured as much. |
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drojf |
drnoe: i added indexes to GRS-1 and DOM for bug 9972, maybe having a look at that might be useful |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9972 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Needs Signoff , Add/ change some zebra indexes (MARC21) (GRS1+DOM) |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: I had a thought about indexing... what would you think about adding a command line variable-controlled xsl:include to koha-indexdefs? |
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jcamins |
It seems like that might be helpful for people who are making minor customizations to the DOM indexing configuration. |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: seems reasonable |
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jcamins |
I was also thinking of a pass-through mode for XSLT. |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10297 - categorycode and branchcode should be required when adding patrons <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d052fc529c6495d71> |
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pianohacker |
pass-through mode? |
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jcamins |
pianohacker: right, to allow for writing the XSLT directly. |
| 19:07 |
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jcamins |
Easily. |
| 19:08 |
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jcamins |
Naturally you can do it right now by editing the build output. |
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drnoe |
I am way in over my head at this point, but would the index name be in a drop-down (something similar) or would the user need to know the index name? |
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cait |
i thnk te index name would be user defined on command line |
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cait |
i think? |
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cait |
orwould we have an interface? |
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drojf |
drnoe: you can add that with jquery |
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drojf |
if you mean add it as a search option |
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jcamins |
You'd add it with jQuery, and define it for the parser, either in C4::Search or queryparser.yaml, depending. |
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drnoe |
really sorry here, but in what files do I need to be looking for adding tags to an index when using DOM? ~/koha-dev/etc/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl ? |
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jcamins |
biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml is the one you'd edit, then you'd generate biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl. |
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tcohen |
bye #koha |
| 19:23 |
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drnoe |
jcamins: generate (biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl) when indexing? |
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jcamins |
drnoe: no, after making your changes. Take a look at the top of the file for instructions. |
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drnoe |
roger. wilco |
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jcamins |
It's an xsltproc command. The hard part is remembering which order the arguments go in. |
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drnoe |
ah, you mean the clear instructions I totally overlooked...(in my own defence, this is the first time I have looked that any of this). The easy part is making sure I document all of this. |
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libsysguy |
dpavlin around? |
| 19:38 |
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cait |
he doesn't pay much attnetion to irc - maybe try an email :) |
| 19:38 |
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cait |
and hi libsysguy |
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libsysguy |
I was just reading one of his repos on github |
| 19:39 |
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libsysguy |
and hi cait |
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libsysguy |
:P |
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* druthb |
chucks skittles at libsysguy |
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* libsysguy |
ducks |
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* libsysguy |
ducks out for the day, actually |
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libsysguy |
see you guys tomorrow |
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rangi |
*sigh* |
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druthb |
*snrk* |
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libsysguy |
aww rangi missed me |
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libsysguy |
:p |
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rangi |
lemme just say this again |
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rangi |
self check? |
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wahanui |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DJ2xyD0wU4 |
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druthb |
I'll be seeing libsysguy shortly for dinner with the boss—anyone want me to put a "kick me" sign on him? |
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cait |
um... now that you ask... |
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jcamins |
The first All-Russian Exhibition and Conference on Sheepherding was on 20-25 September 1912. |
| 19:45 |
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jcamins |
Thought you all might want to know. |
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cait |
lol |
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drnoe |
jcamins: so the next question is where to add/edit target indexes called in biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml? |
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pianohacker |
rangi: what are you dealing with self-check machines for |
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jcamins |
pianohacker: his sins. |
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jcamins |
drnoe: same deal as with GRS-1, so you can add Bib-1 attributes, or not, as you like. |
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pianohacker |
sins that potent normally get a mob sent after you, not a 3M representative |
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rangi |
pianohacker: lots of our koha clients use them, they are so incredibly fragile |
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rangi |
did you know you can make a 3m machine crash |
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pianohacker |
rangi: amen to that |
| 19:51 |
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rangi |
if you send a checkout suceeded response |
| 19:51 |
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pianohacker |
hah! did you look at it funny again? |
| 19:51 |
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pianohacker |
wtf |
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rangi |
that doesnt have a due date |
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* cait |
is not surprised |
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drojf |
so? write a new checkout machine firmware. like rockbox, for 3m machines :P |
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drojf |
make it do pong too, like rockbox |
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jcamins |
drojf: I was thinking rPi-based. |
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pianohacker |
drojf: The hardware in those things is proprietary as fuck |
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drojf |
a whole machine instead of the other thing? wpuld probably work |
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rangi |
been done |
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drojf |
which one? |
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rangi |
but who wants to be a hardware vendor |
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rangi |
not this guy |
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drojf |
heh |
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* jcamins |
either. |
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jcamins |
I just think it would be cool to have an rPi-based selfcheck. |
| 19:58 |
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drojf |
"hi. this is my machine. buy it, it just works. we will never meet again. goodbye" |
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rangi |
http://gallery.katipo.co.nz/lianza2006/img_1452 |
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cait |
lol |
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pianohacker |
drojf: as far as custom firmware goes, 3m self-checks (at least the ones I've dealt with), interface with all of the hardware in them using a completely proprietary set of serial interfaces |
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rangi |
yeah yo have to build your own stack |
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drojf |
that does not sound like fun, really |
| 19:59 |
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rangi |
all the way through to the demagnetiser (or these days rfid) |
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jcamins |
An embedded selfcheck would also be cool. |
| 19:59 |
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jcamins |
Who wants to play with a RTOS? |
| 19:59 |
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drojf |
jcamins: embedded in the items? :) |
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pianohacker |
rangi: How would you even go about reverse-engineering that? Most of the serial debuggers I saw didn't even see half the interfaces |
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rangi |
this was pre rfid |
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rangi |
so you dont |
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rangi |
we blackboxed |
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jcamins |
drojf: I was thinking 8052, but if you have a way to make a Turing-complete item, you could do that instead. :P |
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pianohacker |
? |
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rangi |
you dont have to know how it does it |
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rangi |
just what its doing |
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rangi |
and build something that does the same |
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rangi |
in this case, a pc, with linux and python acting as the sip client |
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pianohacker |
oh, okay |
| 20:01 |
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pianohacker |
that makes more sense |
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cait |
hm i think you can buy the rfid readers now... |
| 20:02 |
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cait |
and the interface to them must be documented? |
| 20:02 |
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rangi |
bwahaa |
| 20:02 |
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rangi |
you're new round here eh? |
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rangi |
:) |
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cait |
too optimistied? |
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drojf |
lol |
| 20:02 |
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rangi |
yes |
| 20:02 |
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cait |
optimistic? :) |
| 20:02 |
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rangi |
thats the one |
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cait |
drojf: hasn't wildau done something like that? |
| 20:02 |
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cait |
building their own hardware for projects nad stuff? |
| 20:02 |
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drojf |
cait: not sure but they are rfid freaks |
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cait |
i thought i heard they did |
| 20:03 |
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rangi |
http://gallery.katipo.co.nz/vi[…]s_lworks_IMG_0779 <-- the olden days |
| 20:03 |
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cait |
they build this weird machine to mass check preprogrammed tags |
| 20:03 |
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cait |
i saw it at bibliothekartag ... 2 years ago |
| 20:03 |
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cait |
well not weird, but an interesting idea and seemed to work |
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cait |
hi kathryn |
| 20:03 |
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cait |
:) |
| 20:03 |
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kathryn |
hello cait! |
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wahanui |
hello cait are you here? |
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drojf |
rangi: great computer you got there ;) |
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rangi |
http://gallery.katipo.co.nz/vienna/IMG_0817 |
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rangi |
its the UN's computer |
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rangi |
UNIDO in fact |
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rangi |
2003 iirc |
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drojf |
that computer looks pretty old for 2003 too ;) |
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rangi |
its the UN :) |
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rangi |
right time to take kids the school |
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druthb |
wahanui: cait? |
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wahanui |
cait is qam, not your secretary |
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druthb |
:P |
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druthb |
wahanui: druthb? |
| 20:13 |
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wahanui |
Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would. |
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* druthb |
nods. |
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druthb |
wahanui: jcamins? |
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wahanui |
it has been said that jcamins is RM for 3.12, and just about the only one crazy enough to work on major projects in both authorities and search. |
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druthb |
lulz |
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pianohacker |
hey ruth |
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druthb |
hi, pianohacker! :D |
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druthb |
wahanui: pianohacker? |
| 20:17 |
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wahanui |
it has been said that pianohacker is a brilliant young whooper-snapper. |
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druthb |
:D |
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* druthb |
is kind of giddy today. |
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mtompset |
I still say it is whipper-snapper, druthb. :P |
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druthb |
:P |
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talljoy |
druthb what did you put in your herbal tea today? lol |
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druthb |
:D |
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druthb |
It was a pot of fierce this morning. |
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talljoy |
i reckon so! those are fun days! |
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talljoy |
RAWR |
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drojf |
good night #koha |
| 21:10 |
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cait |
bye drojf |
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trea |
o/ |
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mtompset |
DOH! I missed saying by to drojf. :( |
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cait |
he'll come back |
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rangi |
http://prism-break.org/ |
| 21:19 |
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rangi |
perfect :) |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ I like that! |
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mtompset |
Silly question... if the IS_NULLABLE='NO' means a required field, then why on the patron screen are address and city not listed as required, and why is cardnumber allowed to be NULL?! |
| 21:24 |
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wizzyrea |
though if you are using iOS to begin with you should probably give up. |
| 21:24 |
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wizzyrea |
cyanogen if you are wanting android |
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jcamins |
mtompset: I'm pretty sure a NOT NULL text column can have '' |
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mtompset |
It can, jcamins. But that still doesn't really answer the cardnumber question. |
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jcamins |
Yeah, I have no answer to that. |
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mtompset |
Oooo.... AddMember_Opac. |
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mtompset |
Ewwwww.... fixup_cardnumber. |
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pianohacker |
huh? |
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mtompset |
What's your take on the comment above sub fixup_cardnumber in C4::Members.pm which is called by AddMember_Opac in the same module? |
| 22:09 |
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mtompset |
I don't see any DB locking, like the comment says should be done. |
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pianohacker |
mtompset: That code has enough smells to start a perfume shop |
| 22:12 |
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pianohacker |
but none of them good... |
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wizzyrea |
@quote get 250 |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: Quote #250: "<cjh> This code smells of wine." (added by wizzyrea at 04:52 AM, May 24, 2013) |
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pianohacker |
hahahaha |
| 22:13 |
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* pianohacker |
has written very good code with his good friends Tequila and Vodka trio-programming with him, thank you very much |
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pianohacker |
mtompset: but yeah, unless something further up the stack is locking the tables, yeah, it's depending on blind luck |
| 22:13 |
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wizzyrea |
@quote add <pianohacker> That code has enough smells to start a perfume shop |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #257 added. |
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mtompset |
wizzyrea: that wasn't the whole quote. :P |
| 22:13 |
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pianohacker |
dammit, more smells than a waste treatment plant is a better analogy anyway |
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jcamins |
pianohacker: some of us are allergic to perfume. |
| 22:14 |
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pianohacker |
hahahaha true |
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wizzyrea |
@quote add *pianohacker has written very good code with his good friends Tequila and Vodka trio-programming with him, thank you very much |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #258 added. |
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pianohacker |
^ none of the above in a professional context, however! I did write a one-line recursive lamdba-based depth-first search in Python for algorithms once though with a large beer by my side |
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mtompset |
Because I'd like to add code that called AddMember_Opac, but with the mess no being locked properly, I am thinking I'll have to fix that first. |
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mtompset |
And speaking of drunk coding... that requires sharing this xkcd. |
| 22:17 |
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mtompset |
http://xkcd.com/323/ |
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pianohacker |
heh, yup |
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eythian |
hi |
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wahanui |
bidet, eythian |
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mtompset |
ARG! |
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mtompset |
./tools/import_borrowers.pl: # FIXME: fixup_cardnumber says to lock table, but the web interface doesn't so this doesn't either. |
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pianohacker |
hahahahahahaha |
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pianohacker |
distributed irresponsibility |
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cjh |
hahahha brilliant! |
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mtompset |
What have I found?! The horror! The horror! |
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wizzyrea |
@quote add <mtompset> What have I found?! The horror! The horror! |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #259 added. |
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wizzyrea |
it's a quoty kind of day |
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cjh |
@quote add <wizzyrea> it's a quoty kind of day |
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huginn |
cjh: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
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pianohacker |
recursion-blocked! |
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wizzyrea |
PWNT |
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cjh |
lol |
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cjh |
@quote add <wizzyrea> it's a quoty kind of day |
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huginn |
cjh: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ |
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cjh |
10:28 [oftc] -!- Mode change [+R] for user cjh |
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cjh |
no love from huginn |
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wizzyrea |
@quote get 23 |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg huginn register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009) |
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wizzyrea |
>.> |
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wizzyrea |
<.< |
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pianohacker |
of course there's a quote for that |
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wizzyrea |
also, I'm using memory bits for it. |
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cjh |
@quote add <wizzyrea> it's a quoty kind of day |
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huginn |
cjh: The operation succeeded. Quote #260 added. |
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* cjh |
mumbles something nasty about huginn |
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pianohacker |
hey, grumble at wahanui if anything |
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pianohacker |
creepy malapropistic stalker bot |
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cjh |
wahanui is awesome! |
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cjh |
good night |
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wahanui |
If you feel like someone is looking through your window, it's OK, it's just me. |
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cjh |
never gets old :D |
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mtompset |
Good day (24 hour period), cjh. :) |
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cjh |
mtompset: thanks, but i'm not going to sleep, just wanted wahanui to be creepy :) |
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mtompset |
Doesn't that make you creepy? :P |
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eythian |
wahanui: be cjh is <reply>just wanted wahanui to be creepy |
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wahanui |
OK, eythian. |
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cjh |
heh |
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mtompset |
cjh? |
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wahanui |
cjh is just finishing off a report on the remaining issues with plack, which should help finish that work off |
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cjh |
be cjh? |
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wahanui |
just wanted wahanui to be creepy |
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mtompset |
be mtompset? |
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mtompset |
Good. Nothing yet. :) |
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cjh |
be mtompset is <reply>be mtompset? |
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cjh |
wahanui: be mtompset is <reply>be mtompset? |
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wahanui |
bugger all, i dunno, cjh |
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* mtompset |
laughs at cjh. |
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pianohacker |
does he seriously have recursion protection? |
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cjh |
that was what I was wondering, I have never seen him reply to himself. |
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mtompset |
wahanui, dump your source code and database to a paste for cjh and pianohacker. :P |
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wahanui |
mtompset: sorry... |
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cjh |
worth a shot. |
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eythian |
trust me, you don't want to see the source. |
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pianohacker |
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~infobot/infobot.html |
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cjh |
is it bad code? or worse, php? |
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eythian |
it's perl, it's just pretty ugly perl |
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pianohacker |
eythian: is that above the right link? |
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pianohacker |
author matches, at least, but wasn't sure |
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eythian |
yeah |
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eythian |
though I think we're using an older version |
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pianohacker |
... older than 1999? |
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pianohacker |
good god |
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cjh |
heh |
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eythian |
oh, maybe not then |
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rangi |
trea: |
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rangi |
self check? |
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wahanui |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DJ2xyD0wU4 |
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trea |
Oh Guffman |
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dcook |
morning #koha |
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eythian |
hi dcook |
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mtompset |
Greetings, dcook eythian rangi pianohacker cjh wizzyrea druthb and anyone else I may have forgotten. :) |
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cjh |
dcook: morning |
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mtompset |
So, I added the lock around the code in AddMember_Opac... I even put a 30 second delay to see what would happen if it took too long. |
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cjh |
mtompset: belated good morning :) |
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mtompset |
Now to test the 90 second lock. :) |
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mtompset |
I hate waiting for testing. |
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pianohacker |
good night, wahanui |
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wahanui |
If you feel like someone is looking through your window, it's OK, it's just me. |
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pianohacker |
yup, you do that |
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mtompset |
Nice. 90 seconds worked. |
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mtompset |
Okay... I think I'm going to post a bug for the LOCKing mess I found. |
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mtompset |
or should I say lack of locking mess. |
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jcamins |
Hm. How much chocolate do I need to make 1 qt of chocolate-covered strawberries? |
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mtompset |
Enough to cover your keyboard in warm rootbeer? |
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jcamins |
1-1/3 to 1-1/2 c. |
