| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:03 |
|
mtj |
yep, me too |
| 00:05 |
|
mtj |
i even missed brooke's reply :) |
| 00:06 |
|
mtj |
which means i cant reply to either… even if i wanted too |
| 00:11 |
|
tcohen |
hi mtj |
| 00:11 |
|
tcohen |
i'm about to answer BTW |
| 00:12 |
|
mtj |
heya tomas |
| 00:12 |
|
mtj |
really? |
| 00:12 |
|
wahanui |
somebody said really was off now |
| 00:13 |
|
bgkriegel |
don't answer |
| 00:13 |
|
mtj |
yeah, dont answer... |
| 00:14 |
|
tcohen |
oops |
| 00:14 |
|
tcohen |
already did it |
| 00:14 |
|
bgkriegel |
too late :) |
| 00:14 |
|
tcohen |
i'm flamer-friendly I guess |
| 00:14 |
|
tcohen |
hi bgkriegel |
| 00:14 |
|
bgkriegel |
hi tomas |
| 00:15 |
|
bgkriegel |
hi mtj |
| 00:15 |
|
mtj |
hey bernardo, thanks for those marc framworks patches |
| 00:16 |
|
bgkriegel |
:-) |
| 00:16 |
|
bgkriegel |
I was working today on that |
| 00:17 |
|
mtj |
i have a task to add some RDA patches koha |
| 00:17 |
|
mtj |
i want to ask people if i should add them to the default marc21 framework... or make a new RDA fwrk instead? |
| 00:18 |
|
bgkriegel |
mmm, ask the list? :-) |
| 00:18 |
|
tcohen |
people already using Koha will have to choose to change the default framework |
| 00:18 |
|
tcohen |
people new to koha will benefit from that I gues |
| 00:19 |
|
mtj |
afaict, the RDA stuff is not actually part of the marc21 spec? |
| 00:20 |
|
bgkriegel |
I think not |
| 00:20 |
|
mtj |
tcohen, yeah… there is a possiblilty people have modified their default fwrk already |
| 00:20 |
|
tcohen |
yes, but shipping new frameworks with Koha wont affect them |
| 00:21 |
|
mtj |
'updating' that fwrk could break their system :/ so we dont want to do that |
| 00:21 |
|
mtj |
we can just tell people in the release-notes, to do that manually - if they want/need to |
| 00:22 |
|
tcohen |
unless you thought of messing with installed frameworks during upgrade, which you shouldnt |
| 00:22 |
|
tcohen |
exactly |
| 00:23 |
|
mtj |
yep, agreed :) |
| 00:24 |
|
* tcohen |
is heading to raise the amount of time for the "undo" feature gmail has for sent emails |
| 00:24 |
|
mtj |
bgkriegel, yes, i'll email the list about the RDA question |
| 00:38 |
|
mtj |
tcohen, i have come to realise… the trick is to just not respond |
| 00:38 |
|
tcohen |
its a bug i was born with: i already knew it |
| 00:39 |
|
tcohen |
and answered anyway |
| 00:39 |
|
mtj |
...if you cant resist the urge - set up a mail-filter to make it impossible for you |
| 00:39 |
|
mtj |
so far, its working for me :) |
| 00:41 |
|
mtj |
if i am really curious, i can still read the thread on the koha mail-archives website - but i cant respond :) |
| 00:41 |
|
tcohen |
hmm, so you cannot be tempted |
| 00:42 |
|
mtj |
yeah… and hey - i have the same bug as you, i think |
| 00:42 |
|
mtj |
…so i patched it ;) |
| 00:43 |
|
tcohen |
hehe |
| 00:45 |
|
tcohen |
i live in an illusional world where I can convince him by explaining things to him |
| 00:45 |
|
tcohen |
gotta fix that bug, true story |
| 00:45 |
|
bgkriegel |
not a chance |
| 00:48 |
|
cjh |
heh |
| 00:50 |
|
tcohen |
maybe he attends to reno and we beat him |
| 00:51 |
|
tcohen |
the email filter sounds simpler and... well... less violent of course |
| 00:51 |
|
mtj |
fyi: tcohen, im using gmail as my filter - it took me 5 mins to sort |
| 00:51 |
|
mtj |
worked 1st time, too |
| 00:57 |
|
mtj |
heya cjh |
| 00:57 |
|
cjh |
hey mtj :) |
| 01:08 |
|
tcohen |
bye #koha, see u at the pubs tonight, if you happen to be in cordoba :-D |
| 02:40 |
|
rangi |
Mtj: there is already and rda framework on the wiki ppl can just import it using framework import in koha |
| 02:53 |
|
mtj |
yeah, i know that :) |
| 02:54 |
|
mtj |
i've been asked to do some rda stuff, for calyx... |
| 02:55 |
|
mtj |
like updating the xslt stylesheets for the new rda fields, too |
| 02:58 |
|
jcamins |
The new RDA fields are absolutely part of MARC21. |
| 02:58 |
|
mtj |
right… just reading that now -> http://www.loc.gov/marc/RDAinMARC.html |
| 02:59 |
|
mtj |
"MARC 21 Updates 9-15 include all changes to MARC for use with RDA approved through June 2012." |
| 02:59 |
|
jcamins |
As for display, add the useful (hahahahahaha!!!!) RDA fields to the default stylesheets with classes. |
| 02:59 |
|
jcamins |
And you might want ot check with ByWater. They did a big press release about how they were providing full RDA support for their clients. |
| 03:00 |
|
jcamins |
Presumably by now "full support" means they actually display them, and they have patches to submit. |
| 03:00 |
|
mtj |
yep, ill do that - for sure |
| 03:02 |
|
jcamins |
Out of curiosity, which fields have people actually found a use for? |
| 03:02 |
|
jcamins |
I guess the new imprint statements that you never see? |
| 03:03 |
|
mtj |
hmm, so with these new update.16 patches - the rda-fwrk files on the wiki will be redundant? |
| 03:03 |
|
mtj |
as update.16 has all the rda fields added already? |
| 03:04 |
|
jcamins |
No, because existing installations will not have their frameworks overwritten. |
| 03:05 |
|
mtj |
hmm, the wiki's rda files *only* have the new rda fields? |
| 03:06 |
|
mtj |
…to be amended to an existing framework? |
| 03:08 |
|
mtj |
so, the good news is - update.16 contains all current rda fields |
| 03:08 |
|
mtj |
thats a nice discovery |
| 03:09 |
|
mtj |
jcamins, i have noooo idea about any 'usefulness' of any rda fields |
| 03:09 |
|
mtj |
atm, its just a task i've been asked to sort... |
| 03:10 |
|
jcamins |
Right, but presumably there are fields they want displayed? |
| 03:11 |
|
mtj |
umm… yeah :) |
| 03:11 |
|
jcamins |
If the assignment was just "make Koha RDA-compliant," I'd go back and report that you're finished (and request a check;). |
| 03:11 |
|
mtj |
…we havent got to the specifics of that bit yet :) |
| 03:16 |
|
mtj |
yeah, so i'll check with bywater before i start with the xslt stuff |
| 03:17 |
|
mtj |
via an email to the dev list |
| 03:17 |
|
jcamins |
Hey, that reminds me. |
| 03:18 |
|
jcamins |
I was going to set the Koha lists NOMAIL. |
| 03:23 |
|
mtj |
hmm, what is NOMAIL? |
| 03:24 |
|
jcamins |
What it sounds like. |
| 03:25 |
|
jcamins |
You can set it up so you're still subscribed but none of the mail gets sent to you. |
| 03:25 |
|
mtj |
ok, that was my first guess :) |
| 03:25 |
|
jcamins |
Yep. Nothing sneaky. |
| 03:25 |
|
* jcamins |
heads to bed. |
| 03:26 |
|
mtj |
nighty nite jcamins |
| 03:26 |
|
mtj |
…and may your dreams be filled with nozebra support questions |
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cait |
@wunder konstanz |
| 08:24 |
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huginn` |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 10.6°C (10:20 AM CEST on June 02, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
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cait1 |
hi #koha |
| 13:42 |
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bgkriegel |
hi cait1 |
| 13:43 |
|
cait1 |
hi bgkriegel :) |
| 13:43 |
|
bgkriegel |
many names :) |
| 13:48 |
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cait1 |
yeah i think the tablet is still online :) |
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| 19:17 |
|
rangi |
morning |
| 19:18 |
|
bgkriegel |
morning rangi |
| 19:18 |
|
bgkriegel |
still sunday here :) |
| 19:18 |
|
rangi |
:) |
| 19:19 |
|
rangi |
@wunder nzwn |
| 19:19 |
|
huginn` |
rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (7:00 AM NZST on June 03, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:19 |
|
cait1 |
morning rangi |
| 20:12 |
|
rangi |
bgkriegel: the new pootle is working well |
| 20:13 |
|
cait1 |
oh did we get an update? |
| 20:13 |
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bgkriegel |
yes, it seems :) |
| 20:13 |
|
bgkriegel |
cait1: on a test server |
| 20:13 |
|
bgkriegel |
I did a copy to try the update |
| 20:14 |
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cait1 |
ah, fingers crossed :) |
| 20:14 |
|
rangi |
cait1 is a good tester she is probably the most experienced translator |
| 20:20 |
|
* mtj |
waves to rangi , cait1, bgkriegel |
| 20:20 |
|
cait1 |
hi mtj |
| 20:20 |
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bgkriegel |
hi mtj |
| 20:20 |
|
cait1 |
rangi: lol, that's widely exaggerated |
| 20:21 |
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jcamins |
No one would ever want to match more than one or two tags in their indexing, right: http://git.cpbibliography.com/[…]9911cb7e1c5#l2065 |
| 20:22 |
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jcamins |
Zebra's DOM filter apparently doesn't support XSLT 2.0 *or* 1.0. Which baffles me. |
| 20:23 |
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cait1 |
? |
| 20:23 |
|
mtj |
hey chris, how did atarau's partaay go? |
| 20:24 |
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cait1 |
jcamins: what am I looking at? |
| 20:25 |
|
rangi |
mtj: http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]and-maui-nukurau/ |
| 20:28 |
|
mtj |
seriously wow! |
| 20:28 |
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cait1 |
very cool |
| 20:31 |
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mtj |
stuff will want to do follow-up to the initial story |
| 20:37 |
|
mtj |
the fotos are all pretty classic too :D |
| 20:45 |
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jcamins |
cait1: Zebra does not support substring() in its DOM filters, apparently, so I have a gazillion "or"s strung together. |
| 20:46 |
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cait1 |
oh |
| 20:52 |
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jcamins |
As for why I did that, I was adding a search option for medical and non-medical subject headings. |
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* wizzyrea |
wave |
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wizzyrea |
holy smokes it's quiet. |
| 23:53 |
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wizzyrea |
@quote random |
| 23:53 |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: Quote #132: "<oleonard> nengard: It depends what time zone Jesus uses I think" (added by druthb at 02:07 PM, May 20, 2011) |
| 23:53 |
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wizzyrea |
@quote random |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: Quote #50: "<pianohackr|work> It is a landmine, I tell you" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 04:44 PM, December 23, 2009) |
| 23:53 |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, huginn`. |
| 23:53 |
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wizzyrea |
@quote random |
| 23:53 |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: Quote #2: "<jwagner> Hope springs eternal in little kitty hearts. Better watch the doors :-)" (added by gmcharlt at 04:04 PM, June 03, 2009) |
| 23:53 |
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wizzyrea |
@quote random |
| 23:53 |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: Quote #239: "slef: man cannot live by beer alone. But it's fun to try!" (added by wizzyrea at 10:54 AM, April 03, 2013) |
| 23:53 |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
| 23:53 |
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huginn` |
gmcharlt: Quote #155: "libsysguy: I always hate touching somebody else's code that they are currently working on...its like asking someone if you can hold their kid" (added by kf at 01:35 PM, September 15, 2011) |
| 23:53 |
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wizzyrea |
:D |
| 23:54 |
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wizzyrea |
@quote random |
| 23:54 |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: Quote #182: "rangi: chiclet makes me think all you could type on it is bridget jones diary novels" (added by wizzyrea at 07:35 PM, January 25, 2012) |
| 23:54 |
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wizzyrea |
though I like chiclet keyboards :P |
| 23:54 |
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wizzyrea |
@quote random |
| 23:54 |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: Quote #2: "<jwagner> Hope springs eternal in little kitty hearts. Better watch the doors :-)" (added by gmcharlt at 04:04 PM, June 03, 2009) |
| 23:54 |
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bgkriegel |
@quote random |
| 23:54 |
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huginn` |
bgkriegel: Quote #104: "<Brooke> not people quoting me *again*" (added by druthb at 01:07 AM, November 17, 2010) |
| 23:54 |
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wizzyrea |
tee ehe |
| 23:55 |
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wizzyrea |
@quote random |
| 23:56 |
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huginn` |
wizzyrea: Quote #153: "<rangi> merging code in git doesn't make me angry, I just think back to svn and cvs, and git could punch me in the face and it would still be better" (added by gmcharlt at 07:49 PM, September 13, 2011) |
| 23:58 |
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gmcharlt |
good thing for rangi that nobody actually got around to implementing the git-invoke-linus command |
| 23:58 |
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jcamins |
lol |
| 23:58 |
|
gmcharlt |
so, now that Matt Smith has announced his departure... who should be the new Doctor? |
