Time |
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Nick |
Message |
00:02 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6413 - QA Followup - Remove extra table column header <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2a0e1040386d45d90> / Bug 6413 - QA Followup - Add notes for 'Pay selected' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ebb88281b442113b3> / Bug 6413 follow-up: fixing capital case & tabs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git; |
00:03 |
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eythian |
hi |
00:15 |
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eythian |
jcamins: don't suppose you're around? |
00:22 |
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tcohen |
wahanui: release maintenance is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]lease_maintenance |
00:22 |
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wahanui |
OK, tcohen. |
00:22 |
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tcohen |
release maintenance? |
00:22 |
|
wahanui |
hmmm... release maintenance is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]lease_maintenance |
00:22 |
|
rangi |
sweet |
00:23 |
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tcohen |
is WIP rangi, but at list I sumarized what u told us |
00:23 |
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rangi |
chris n did it too |
00:24 |
|
rangi |
i think its a crazy chris thing |
00:24 |
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* cjh |
gulps |
00:24 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1189: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 13 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1189/ |
00:24 |
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tcohen |
heh |
00:24 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Kyle M Hall: Bug 8215 - Course Reserves |
00:24 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Paul Poulain: Bug 8215 follow-up encoding for branches & itemtypes |
00:24 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 8215: Followup FIX QA issues |
00:24 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Kyle M Hall: Bug 8215 - Add Course Reserves - QA Followup |
00:24 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8215 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add Course Reserves |
00:24 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 8215: Followup Fix confirmation links for delete course and item |
00:24 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 8215: FIX ergonomic issue : 'Unchanged()' |
00:24 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: bug 8215: (followup) run new files through perltidy |
00:24 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: bug 8215: (followup) make sure C4::CourseReserves doesn't export anything |
00:24 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: bug 8215: (followup) don't allow deleting course reserves from OPAC |
00:24 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: bug 8215: (followup) avoid SQL syntax error in logs |
00:24 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: bug 8215: (followup) rename GetItemReservesInfo |
00:24 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: bug 8215: (followup) remove extraneous underscore in template |
00:24 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: bug 8215: DBRev 3.13.00.001 for course reserves |
00:24 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: bug 8215: (followup) avoid spurious warning in Apache log |
00:25 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Starting build #44 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
00:28 |
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rangi |
hmm why didnt the db change kick in |
00:28 |
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rangi |
+ ./installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl |
00:28 |
|
rangi |
DBD::mysql::db do failed: Can't create table 'koha.#sql-620e_4a2c2' (errno: 150) at ./installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 6878. |
00:28 |
|
rangi |
DBD::mysql::db do failed: Can't create table 'koha.#sql-620e_4a2c2' (errno: 150) at ./installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 6900. |
00:29 |
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rangi |
foreign key stuff |
00:29 |
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gmcharlt |
wheeee |
00:29 |
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tcohen |
as long as you don't take on release maintenance, you are safe cjh |
00:29 |
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rangi |
that might need to be tested on a populated db |
00:30 |
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rangi |
or at least more populated |
00:30 |
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cjh |
tcohen: glad I didnt make that mistake! |
00:30 |
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gmcharlt |
rangi: 'twas |
00:30 |
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rangi |
interesting |
00:30 |
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wahanui |
interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
00:30 |
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rangi |
wonder what the error is, ill investigate a bit later |
00:30 |
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tcohen |
oh, don't tell me... you... recently.... |
00:30 |
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cjh |
it is too late for me :( |
00:31 |
|
tcohen |
heh |
00:31 |
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gmcharlt |
rangi: yeah, I've observed on many occassions that MySQL won't create a FK on the first go |
00:32 |
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tcohen |
cjh, if you find things to improve in the proposed workflow i'd like to hear it |
00:36 |
|
cjh |
have to have a read, looking forward to finding out how everything ticks :) |
00:38 |
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tcohen |
I forgot to mention we should *update bugzilla* |
00:41 |
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gmcharlt |
rangi: show innodb status (as the mysql root user) might help |
00:50 |
|
tcohen |
bye #koha |
00:57 |
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rangi |
thanks gmcharlt will give that a try |
01:08 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.12.x build #44: SUCCESS in 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.12.x/44/ |
01:08 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 9508: Standardize the dateformat value from C4::Auth |
01:08 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Paul Poulain: Bug 9508 follow-up : replacing tabs by spaces |
01:09 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9508 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , the dateformat variable is not standardized in template files |
01:11 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1190 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1188 6 hr 47 min ago) |
01:14 |
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01:17 |
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01:26 |
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zebran00b |
So what does everybody think of the LibLime distro? |
01:26 |
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eythian |
... |
01:26 |
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eythian |
.... |
01:26 |
|
eythian |
! |
01:26 |
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zebran00b |
as I suspected |
01:27 |
|
ibeardslee |
oh thanks we'd only just got eythian settled down after last time someone mentioned that ;) |
01:28 |
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zebran00b |
eythian: have you tried it? |
01:28 |
|
eythian |
no |
01:28 |
|
zebran00b |
neither have I but they seem... shifty |
01:28 |
|
eythian |
yes |
01:28 |
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trea |
really? >.> |
01:29 |
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zebran00b |
trea: I don't really trust anyone who asks me for my email before letting me download "open source" software |
01:29 |
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trea |
ah k |
01:30 |
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zebran00b |
trea: never tried it, might be a good product, but their marketing department also was a bit frustrating by email |
01:32 |
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jcamins |
eythian: now I am. |
01:32 |
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zebran00b |
eythian: I figured out where I can place my wiki within my Koha instance - /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs. Is that messed up or is that decent? |
01:32 |
|
eythian |
zebran00b: I wouldn't. |
01:32 |
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jcamins |
zebran00b: we think it's a shame that they call something so obviously not Koha "Koha." |
01:32 |
|
eythian |
I'd set up apache properly to understand where you put it, and not put it somewhere where it could be upset by a future koha update. |
01:33 |
|
eythian |
jcamins: just having some oddness with authority linking. |
01:33 |
|
eythian |
i.e., some things aren't linking that I think should be. |
01:33 |
|
jcamins |
Do you have an example? |
01:36 |
|
eythian |
jcamins: from 690$a: <subfield code="a">Emergency Management Hazards and Disasters</subfield> |
01:36 |
|
eythian |
and from the auth record: <datafield tag="150" ind1=" " ind2=" "> |
01:36 |
|
eythian |
<subfield code="a">Emergency Management Hazards and Disasters</subfield> |
01:36 |
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jcamins |
eythian: that's a 690. |
01:37 |
|
eythian |
yep |
01:37 |
|
eythian |
it's set up in the framework to link |
01:37 |
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jcamins |
Yeah, but C4::Linker doesn't respect the frameworks. |
01:37 |
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jcamins |
Since other than that C4::Linker is awesome, I used it anyway. |
01:37 |
|
eythian |
that might be problematical. |
01:38 |
|
jcamins |
Or whatever it's called. |
01:38 |
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jcamins |
Not C4::Linker. |
01:38 |
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jcamins |
C4::Heading? |
01:38 |
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eythian |
C4::Linker::LastMatch is what I last tried |
01:39 |
|
eythian |
jcamins: any way I could make it work? |
01:39 |
|
eythian |
it should really work for 690 anyway, given that's a topic term field. |
01:39 |
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jcamins |
eythian: right, I wrote C4::Linker. It's C4::Heading that's the problem. |
01:39 |
|
jcamins |
Yeah, just add a mapping for 690. |
01:40 |
|
jcamins |
There's a hash. |
01:40 |
|
jcamins |
You'll know it when you see it. |
01:40 |
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eythian |
ah OK |
01:40 |
|
jcamins |
C4::Heading::MARC21 or some such. |
01:40 |
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wizzyrea |
\o/ |
01:58 |
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02:16 |
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zebran00b |
I plan to wipe my server and reinstall Koha. Can I copy over an admin settings file or something to restore my system preferences? |
02:16 |
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jcamins |
You can back up your database. |
02:17 |
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zebran00b |
system prefs are in there too? |
02:17 |
|
jcamins |
Yep. |
02:17 |
|
jcamins |
Everything. |
02:17 |
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wahanui |
i heard everything was grilled |
02:18 |
|
jcamins |
Except, obviously, database credentials. |
02:21 |
|
jcamins |
And any Zebra customizations. |
02:22 |
|
jcamins |
And your wiki if you put it in the Koha tree (but don't do that!). |
02:22 |
|
rangi |
just use Alias /wiki/ /where/the/stuff/is/ |
02:22 |
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rangi |
dont actually put it in the tree |
02:22 |
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jcamins |
Right. |
02:25 |
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eythian |
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~tom7/pa[…]tom7whatwords.pdf <-- jcamins |
02:26 |
|
jcamins |
lol |
02:26 |
|
eythian |
it's quite the paper, I've put it aside for reading at a later time :) |
02:27 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Yippie, build fixed! |
02:27 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1190: FIXED in 1 hr 17 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1190/ |
02:27 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Chris Hall: Bug 6413 Added ability to add a note when paying or writing off a fine |
02:27 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Paul Poulain: Bug 6413 follow-up: fixing capital case & tabs |
02:27 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Paul Poulain: Bug 6413 - QA Followup - Add notes for 'Pay selected' |
02:27 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6413 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Notes in Fines doing wonky things |
02:27 |
|
jenkins_koha |
* Kyle M Hall: Bug 6413 - QA Followup - Remove extra table column header |
02:27 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1191 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
02:29 |
|
jcamins |
That's kind of incredible. |
02:30 |
|
rangi |
gmcharlt: you were right it worked the second time |
02:48 |
|
jcamins |
Yikes. Apparently running Time Machine and a VirtualBox VM at the same time is a bad idea. |
02:48 |
|
jcamins |
How much processing power should rsync really take? |
02:48 |
|
trea |
all of it. |
02:48 |
|
jcamins |
trea: oh, right. |
02:49 |
|
jcamins |
Silly me. |
02:51 |
|
zebran00b |
thanks rangi, jcamins. Yeah, I just figured out the Alias bit, thanks for confirming. I don't remember having any zebra customizations, and I'll probably write a new crontab... |
02:52 |
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jcamins |
zebran00b: i you're reinstalling, I have a suggestion. |
02:52 |
|
jcamins |
Use packages. |
02:52 |
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jcamins |
*if |
02:52 |
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zebran00b |
yes, I was going to use the debian package |
02:52 |
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jcamins |
In that case, you will not need to edit crontab at all. |
02:53 |
|
jcamins |
At least, not for Koha. |
02:53 |
|
jcamins |
For other things, perhaps, but this is #koha not #otherthings. ;) |
02:56 |
|
zebran00b |
really? Because that's been my whole problem with my current install, search isn't automatically indexing newly uploaded records |
02:56 |
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jcamins |
If that happens with packages, it means that you edited the crontab, thereby breaking things. |
02:56 |
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jcamins |
The packages are set up with indexing out of the box. |
02:56 |
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zebran00b |
i c |
02:58 |
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zebran00b |
jcamins: if I use the current stable version package, do I have to install anything like apache in debian before running the package? Or does it include that along with all dependencies? |
02:58 |
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wizzyrea |
packages? |
02:58 |
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wahanui |
rumour has it packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
02:58 |
|
wizzyrea |
^^ |
02:58 |
|
wizzyrea |
read that |
02:58 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea++ # beat me to it. |
02:59 |
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wizzyrea |
apache it should take care of, mysql it won't |
03:00 |
|
zebran00b |
thx wizzyrea |
03:00 |
|
wizzyrea |
but really - read the wiki page :) |
03:01 |
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zebran00b |
on it |
03:31 |
|
eythian |
jcamins: if you're feeling like you have too much free time now, bug 10308 wants a signoff :) |
03:31 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10308 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Authorities linker should handle the "local subject added entry" fields. |
03:31 |
|
jcamins |
eythian: thanks, but I'm not. :P |
03:31 |
|
jcamins |
And I'm taking a Koha break until June 1. |
03:32 |
|
jcamins |
However, that'll be the first thing I sign off on after the hiatus. :) |
03:32 |
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eythian |
You'll be back before then. First the hands start shaking, then you'll have trouble forming words, then you'll notice you're putting an H book inbetween A and B, and your so-called hiatus will be over :) |
03:32 |
|
jcamins |
lol |
03:33 |
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jcamins |
But not tonight. |
03:33 |
|
jcamins |
Bedtime now. |
03:33 |
|
jcamins |
Good night, #koha. |
03:33 |
|
eythian |
later |
03:33 |
|
gmcharlt |
eythian++ |
03:33 |
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wizzyrea |
eythian++ hehe |
03:33 |
|
trea |
:D |
03:42 |
|
jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1191: SUCCESS in 1 hr 15 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1191/ |
04:13 |
|
dcook |
:S |
04:13 |
|
dcook |
Can someone check a column name for me in the import_batches table? |
04:14 |
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cjh |
dcook: http://schema.koha-community.o[…]port_batches.html |
04:14 |
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dcook |
I just thought of that after I typed that, hehe |
04:14 |
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cjh |
:) |
04:14 |
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dcook |
Thanks :) |
04:14 |
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dcook |
Hmm, that looks wrong as well.. |
04:15 |
|
dcook |
Or maybe that is right... |
04:15 |
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* dcook |
flails |
04:15 |
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cjh |
probably one of those :) |
04:15 |
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04:15 |
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dcook |
hehe |
04:15 |
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dcook |
hey ya cait |
04:16 |
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eythian |
wahanui: remind cait later |
04:16 |
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wahanui |
@later tell cait it's early, go back to bed |
04:16 |
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huginn |
wahanui: The operation succeeded. |
04:16 |
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wahanui |
huginn: what? |
04:16 |
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huginn |
wahanui: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
04:16 |
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wahanui |
...but i'll give you the answer as soon as rda is <reply>... |
04:16 |
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cait |
eythian: poor wahanui |
04:17 |
|
eythian |
wahanui: poor wahanui is <reply>Will he ever win# |
04:17 |
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wahanui |
OK, eythian. |
04:17 |
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eythian |
wahanui: poor wahanui =~ s/#/?/ |
04:17 |
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wahanui |
OK, eythian |
04:17 |
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cjh |
that works? |
04:17 |
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eythian |
course it does |
04:18 |
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cjh |
poor wahanui? |
04:18 |
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wahanui |
Will he ever win? |
04:18 |
|
cjh |
excellent. |
04:28 |
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04:29 |
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cait |
wahanui botsnack cookies |
04:29 |
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wahanui |
thanks cait :) |
04:29 |
|
mtj |
a little off-topic, but hey… -> http://twentytwowords.com/2013[…]lets-10-pictures/ |
04:30 |
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dcook |
cjh: Issue with my backport. Balance is restored to the force :). |
04:46 |
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cait |
mtj: that looks quite dangerous |
04:49 |
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mtj |
yeah - if the tower fell the wrong way, it would certainly land on the people |
04:51 |
|
* dcook |
thinks his fingers are almost too cold to type |
04:51 |
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dcook |
@wunder sydney, australia |
04:51 |
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huginn |
dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 14.0°C (2:30 PM EST on May 22, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
04:52 |
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dcook |
Bah. This country needs to get some heaters... |
04:53 |
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eythian |
@wunder nzwn |
04:53 |
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huginn |
eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (4:00 PM NZST on May 22, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Falling). |
04:53 |
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eythian |
ha ha. |
04:53 |
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dcook |
Must be a first :p |
04:58 |
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cjh |
this morning I couldnt see the sky :( |
04:58 |
|
dcook |
I just noticed the rain :( |
04:58 |
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cait |
raining here too |
04:58 |
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wizzyrea |
hey 15 is pleasant |
04:59 |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
04:59 |
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huginn |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 9.2°C (6:55 AM CEST on May 22, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
05:02 |
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eythian |
wahanui: wunder is <reply>http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/12/20 |
05:02 |
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wahanui |
...but wunder is not really correct. wellington also has light rain. put that humidity up ;-)... |
05:02 |
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eythian |
wahanui: wunder is also <reply>http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/12/20 |
05:02 |
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wahanui |
okay, eythian. |
05:03 |
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cait |
this light rain is going ot get me really wet on my way to work if it doesn't stop soon |
05:11 |
|
mtj |
peeps, has anyone ever spotted a weird xslt error like this… -> http://koha.uac.bj/cgi-bin/koh[…]=41454&save=Allez |
05:11 |
|
cait |
no |
05:12 |
|
mtj |
...ive just bumped into this, on a 3.10.4 koha |
05:12 |
|
cait |
and it looks like the thing breaking it is german? |
05:12 |
|
cait |
Biotechnologie... |
05:13 |
|
eythian |
those darn Germans breaking things. |
05:13 |
|
eythian |
and their germs. |
05:13 |
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cait |
aha |
05:13 |
|
cait |
you forgot to mention the boring beer |
05:13 |
|
eythian |
I did |
05:15 |
|
mtj |
uac.bj's koha looks to be an old 3.0.1 version, but a similar bug looks to still exist |
05:18 |
|
mtj |
tho, the difference is that i am getting a similar error on page 3, of a staff keyword search |
05:19 |
|
mtj |
ie… http://koha/cgi-bin/koha/catal[…]=foobar&offset=40 |
05:20 |
|
mtj |
so i guess there is some glitchy string in one of the bibs on page 3, thats causing xslt to barf |
05:22 |
|
* dcook |
has been wondering what would happen in that case |
05:23 |
|
dcook |
If you have bad data, your XSLT detail and search displays bust, no? |
05:23 |
|
dcook |
The TT templates seem more forgiving |
05:23 |
|
mtj |
some combo of punctuation is causing the xslt transform to blow up |
05:23 |
|
dcook |
Or rather the perl scripts behind them |
05:24 |
|
dcook |
Which might either be a bug in the XSLT or bad data? |
05:28 |
|
mtj |
meh, fone... |
05:29 |
|
mtj |
dcook, yeah, i think that might be the quick-fix for this situ - flick the staff-seach syspref back to TT |
05:29 |
|
mtj |
… then try to debug the xslt glitch later |
05:30 |
|
mtj |
hey cait, thanks for your suggestion too :) |
05:32 |
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mtj |
woah, i just noticed the end of this line... |
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mtj |
"You can adjust xsltMaxDepth (--maxdepth) in order to raise the maximum number of nested template calls and variables/params (currently set to 250)" |
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mtj |
250 sounds like a lot - but i guess that includes everything, not just nested calls... |
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eythian |
it is a lot, but it's also not unreasonable for a declarative parsing language, where you might be handling big XML input files. |
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eythian |
it's probably a good "not likely to hit in real life, but not likely to use all the RAM if it is it" kinda point. |
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mtj |
eythian, truth is, i'm not sure what file to edit , to bump that value |
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eythian |
mtj: it's not your issue |
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eythian |
it's the symptom of your issue |
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cait |
looks to me like there is a loop |
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eythian |
well, something is recursing infinitely I'd guess |
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cait |
have you checked the record that causes it and the function in slimUtils? |
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mtj |
yeah, i suspect that too, but would be nice to bump --maxdepth to 1000, to confirm that |
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cait |
i think just the same would happen |
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eythian |
pull out the marcxml and run the XSLT by hand |
05:48 |
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eythian |
and I agree with cait |
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cait |
must be a first :P |
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eythian |
:) |
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mtj |
im poking at the <xsl:template name="chopPunctuation"> function now |
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mtj |
…with some success (fingers crossed) |
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mtj |
s/function/template/ ? :) |
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eythian |
template I suppose |
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eythian |
it doesn't have funtions, per se. |
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mtj |
yeah, sorry - i'm a bit of a xslt noob |
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mtj |
yow, its a korean bib title, thats causing the fail |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
interesting, why? |
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mtj |
hmm, not sure why yet... |
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murali |
hi everyone |
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murali |
I have installed koha 3.8.12.....i am unable to send uname and pwd for patrons while creating a new patron.....i ihave postfix mail server installed on my machine |
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murali |
please anyone help me |
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mtj |
murali, hmm, im not sure koha has that feature? |
06:04 |
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eythian |
I'm pretty sure it does |
06:04 |
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eythian |
though, I've never used it, I'm sure I've heard that it's there. |
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murali |
yeah u are ryt eythian |
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murali |
even i read it has that feature |
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murali |
but i am unable to send overdue notices also |
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eythian |
however, you'll have to explain a bit more. |
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eythian |
does any mail work from the machine at all? |
06:06 |
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eythian |
from koha? |
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eythian |
how did you install koha, with the packages or some other method? |
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murali |
some other method |
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murali |
http://kohageek.pbworks.com/w/[…]llation-on-ubuntu |
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murali |
the procedure in this link |
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eythian |
ah, I see. |
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murali |
can u pls help me in this regard |
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eythian |
you need to answer the other questions before anyone can help. |
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mtj |
eythian++, aaah thanks for the correction :) |
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murali |
what is the question u want to ask |
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mtj |
hey cait, i found the problem… was some glitchy(ish) title data in a record |
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eythian |
<eythian> does any mail work from the machine at all? |
06:10 |
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eythian |
<eythian> from koha? |
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murali |
no from koha any mail is not working |
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mtj |
murali, eythian is asking *you* what is the question u want to ask :) |
06:11 |
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eythian |
no I'm not |
06:11 |
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eythian |
I'm asking murali to answer the questions I already asked :) |
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cait |
mtj: it's activated in the sysprefs |
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cait |
mtj: globally, only works on manual creation of a new patron |
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eythian |
murali: that's not really an answer. Have you tested sending mail from the machine at all? |
06:12 |
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murali |
from terminal iam able to send mail |
06:12 |
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mtj |
eythian - oops, so you are :) |
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murali |
but from koha iam unable to send |
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eythian |
murali: OK, and that goes through postfix all happily? |
06:13 |
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murali |
thats what i dont understand actuaaly |
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mtj |
cait, the problem bib's title was '설êµì˜ ì—사 (1):' |
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murali |
the command i used is mail -s "subject" |
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drojf |
good morning #koha |
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cait |
mtj: hm, doesn't look too bad |
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eythian |
if you ahve a look in /var/log/mail.info when you do that, you'll see messages from postfix saying what's happening. |
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murali |
k i will check once..... |
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eythian |
I strongly suspect it is going through there. |
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murali |
smtp connect is failed is the error msg in var/log/mail.log |
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eythian |
OK, you're going to have to figure that out probably. |
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mtj |
cait, yeah… it doesnt look to bad ?! |
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eythian |
So you mean that you can't send mail from the terminal and have it go through? |
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murali |
and in koha_error_log the error is memberentry.pl: connect to smtp.gmail.com failed (Connection refused) no (more) retries!, referer: http://127.0.1.1:8000/cgi-bin/[…]mp;categorycode=O |
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murali |
if i use mailutils iam able to send mail through terminal |
06:19 |
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mtj |
if i edit the chopPunctuation template slightly, i fix the xslt crash |
06:19 |
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eythian |
well, Koha is attempting to send direct to gmail, which is not a good thing to be doing. |
06:19 |
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eythian |
I don't know why it'd do that. |
06:19 |
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mtj |
from <xsl:when test="contains('.,;/: ' |
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mtj |
to <xsl:when test="contains('.,;/:' |
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eythian |
did you change something in Koha to make it do that? |
06:19 |
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murali |
no ididn't change anything in koha |
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murali |
i have just installed postfix and tried to craete a new patron |
06:20 |
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mtj |
ie: removing the ' ' char, at the end |
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murali |
and this is the error msg in error log |
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eythian |
there's no reason I can think of that Koha would be trying to talk directly to gmail. |
06:21 |
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murali |
should i configure somethng in Mail::Sendpail.pm |
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eythian |
no |
06:21 |
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eythian |
did you change something there? |
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murali |
no |
06:21 |
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eythian |
hmm |
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eythian |
when you send from the terminal, you said it says "smtp connect is failed" |
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eythian |
but you also said it worked. |
06:22 |
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eythian |
Which is it? |
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mtj |
peeps, i gotta go - hope you get your problem sorted murali... |
06:22 |
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eythian |
later mtj |
06:22 |
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mtj |
cya, thanks for your help |
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murali |
i thought it worked |
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murali |
but it might not be working |
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eythian |
did the mail show up at the other end? |
06:23 |
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murali |
no |
06:23 |
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eythian |
that counts as "not working" to me :) |
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murali |
k |
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eythian |
your best bet is probably to configure postfix to send mail first. |
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murali |
do u have any idea how to configure postfix |
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murali |
to send mails |
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murali |
or else any links |
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eythian |
well, you can change its settings by running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix' |
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eythian |
but you'll have to talk to your network person about the information to give to it. |
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murali |
oh k |
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murali |
i will just try it |
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murali |
which option should i select "no configuration or Internet sites or Local only" |
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eythian |
that depends what you want to do with it. Probably the one that lets it talk either to the internet or via a smarthost. |
06:30 |
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eythian |
But to know which it is, you'll have to know how your network is set up. |
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murali |
iam not a regular linux user.......so please could you tell me how to know how my network is set up |
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eythian |
ask the person who set it up. How would you set up a mail client on your desktop computer? You need the same sort of information for sending mail here. |
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* eythian |
has to go now too |
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eythian |
bye all |
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murali |
http://kohageek.pbworks.com/w/[…]ces%20from%20Koha |
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murali |
i have installed post fix using this link |
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christophe_c |
hello 3koha |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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reiveune |
hello |
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wahanui |
privet, reiveune |
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cait |
bbl |
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drojf |
hi magnuse |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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wahanui |
hola, alex_a |
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magnuse |
moin drojf |
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samueld |
hi everybody :-) |
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drojf |
ihi samueld |
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drojf |
*hi |
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drojf |
woah a huge magpie claims my balcony |
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dcook |
Or at least whoever is implementing them...ugh |
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drojf |
would it be too much to to make it a rule for people with koha roles to regularly attend irc? |
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drojf |
s/to to/to |
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dcook |
Possibly, especially depending on the definition of regular |
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jajm |
hello |
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drojf |
dcook: i think a good start would be to try to attend more irc meetings than the one you are trying to get elected… |
07:05 |
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drojf |
hi jajm |
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dcook |
Good point, although that can be tough with timezone differences |
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magnuse |
timezones-- |
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drojf |
there are likely 2 out of 3 that are possible, i guess |
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dcook |
For instance, for the next IRC meeting, I'll be commuting to work |
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dcook |
I do have an IRC client on my phone though... |
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drojf |
see ;) |
07:07 |
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dcook |
But, I would be opting into that, I think |
07:07 |
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dcook |
Last IRC meeting I did on my phone wasn't too much fun |
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drojf |
i remember slef taking part in a meeting on the phone, standing oitside in the rain :D |
07:07 |
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dcook |
I wound up walking the wrong way home :p |
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drojf |
lol |
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drojf |
we wouldn't want that |
07:08 |
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dcook |
Well, I didn't wind up too far away ;) |
07:08 |
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dcook |
Hmm, you might have a point here. |
07:08 |
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dcook |
IRC is pretty much the best way to communicate with folks, it seems |
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drojf |
anyway, if you plan to invest time in koha (like, being a manager of something), i think it would not be too much to ask to come here once in a while. eg. while you are working on your koha stuff |
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dcook |
I take it you have someone(s) in mind? |
07:11 |
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dcook |
Or is this just a general thought? |
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drojf |
atm i am not very happy about how the live dvd thing is turning out. i hope my mail to the list was not too unfriendly |
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drojf |
i am very sure i talked to vimal about the "use in production" thing before. and now it is what he promotes for "small libraries" |
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dcook |
Mmm, I just get the digests, so I haven't seen it yet |
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* dcook |
waves to asaurat |
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asaurat |
hi! |
07:13 |
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dcook |
Conflicting information is a tough one.. |
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drojf |
bonjour asaurat |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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huginn |
GERMS!!!! |
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wahanui |
Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. |
07:28 |
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kf |
hmpf |
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drojf |
i'm happy they don't know about my germ_ness |
07:30 |
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kf |
undercover drojf germinator? |
07:30 |
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drojf |
looks like it. you are the only true germ :D |
07:30 |
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kf |
lol |
07:32 |
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dcook |
Hmm, I think it's home time for this misplaced Canadian |
07:32 |
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kf |
have a nice evening dcook |
07:32 |
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dcook |
Maybe I'll have to try installing Koha from the packages in a couple hours at home... |
07:32 |
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dcook |
thanks, kf. Have a nice day ^_^ |
07:32 |
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drojf |
or you could use a live dvd ^^ |
07:33 |
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drojf |
dear log reading person: do not use a live dvd. a package installation is a nice and easy thing to do. |
07:35 |
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dcook |
drojf: hehe |
07:35 |
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dcook |
I'm pretty excited for the packages. |
07:35 |
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dcook |
I wonder a bit how I could do localized packages, but I think jcamins and others have tools/info on that... |
07:36 |
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dcook |
Anyway, time for me to blow this popsicle stand |
07:36 |
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cjh |
and then gitify ;) </shameless_plug> |
07:36 |
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dcook |
night kf, drojf, et al. |
07:36 |
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drojf |
night d… |
07:36 |
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drojf |
too slow |
07:37 |
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cjh |
drojf++ documenting for the sake of log readers. |
07:38 |
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drojf |
:D |
07:45 |
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magnuse |
gitify? |
07:45 |
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wahanui |
somebody said gitify was at https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify |
07:45 |
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kf |
oh nice |
07:52 |
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rangi |
drojf++ #good email |
07:53 |
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* magnuse |
upgrades a dev install to 3.13.00.001 and smiles at the upgrade message for 3.13.00.000 |
07:54 |
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kf |
magnuse: same here this morning :) |
07:55 |
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cjh |
magnuse: sorry didnt see you ask, thankfully wahanui has it covered :) |
07:55 |
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cjh |
magnuse: gitify takes a koha-package install and makes it run from a git repo (instead of the /usr/share/ files) |
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zebran00b |
rangi: u there? |
08:06 |
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wahanui |
there is a lot of clean up that could be done. |
08:11 |
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zebran00b |
any package experts awake? |
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mur |
hi |
09:13 |
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drojf |
yay, it starts to rain the minute i have to leave the house |
09:14 |
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drojf |
ugh. that is a lot of rain. maybe i postpone my departure a little |
09:19 |
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rangi |
well ive done my bit, you cant help those that don't want help |
09:21 |
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drojf |
true |
09:22 |
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rangi |
for the record i never said no dvd at kohacon, just that its a bad idea to use one that is not upgradable |
09:23 |
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rangi |
i also said no, im not going to make one |
09:23 |
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kf |
I read it like that :) |
09:26 |
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* drojf |
gives the "leave the house" thing another try. see you later #koha |
09:36 |
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rangi |
ok now hes annoying me, which means i should definitely not reply |
09:38 |
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* rangi |
files the mail away |
09:38 |
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* kf |
hands rangi the cookie jar |
09:40 |
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* rangi |
eats them all |
09:41 |
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kf |
lol |
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dcook |
Muahaha |
09:46 |
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kf |
are you supposed to be here at this time of the day, dcook? |
09:47 |
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dcook |
Mmm, nope |
09:47 |
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rangi |
hes probably working on a livedvd |
09:47 |
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dcook |
Probably :p |
09:47 |
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dcook |
Just got home from work, so naturally I just installed Xchat and am getting ready to install Koha via the Debian packages |
09:48 |
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dcook |
You know...for a novel thing to do and all |
09:48 |
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dcook |
Must say that Xchat is much nicer on Linux than Windows... |
09:51 |
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dcook |
debian packages? |
09:51 |
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wahanui |
debian packages are at debian.koha-community.org |
09:55 |
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rangi |
packages? |
09:55 |
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wahanui |
it has been said that packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
09:58 |
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dcook |
The first page links to it too, but thanks :) |
09:59 |
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dcook |
So far so good |
10:13 |
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dcook |
Ok. Everything installed. Time for configuration... |
10:15 |
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kf |
:) |
10:15 |
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dcook |
I'm significantly less confident now ;) |
10:16 |
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dcook |
If I'm not using DNS, do I still need to do "sudo a2enmod rewrite"? |
10:16 |
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rangi |
yes |
10:16 |
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dcook |
I thought so, but I wasn't sure. Thanks, rangi :) |
10:16 |
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kf |
indradg++ |
10:17 |
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dcook |
"Run '/etc/init.d/apache2 restart' to activate new configuration!" |
10:17 |
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dcook |
But I haven't configured anything yet.. |
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kf |
you activated the module i think |
10:18 |
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dcook |
Yep, that's it |
10:19 |
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* magnuse |
gets his interwebs back |
10:19 |
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* magnuse |
cheers dcook on |
10:19 |
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dcook |
Thanks, magnuse :) |
10:19 |
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dcook |
"Listen on port 8080: $EDITOR /etc/apache2/ports.conf" |
10:19 |
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dcook |
Now if I were to modify my apache conf here...I'd need to restart afterward.. |
10:20 |
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magnuse |
yup |
10:20 |
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kf |
indrag++ |
10:20 |
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* dcook |
hasn't really played with apache config files since late 2011 :/ |
10:21 |
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drojf |
yay package installation \o/ |
10:21 |
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* magnuse |
thinks dcook missed out on a lot of fun, then |
10:21 |
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magnuse |
drojf++ |
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dcook |
Ahh, I think I follow now.. |
10:23 |
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dcook |
Almost |
10:23 |
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* dcook |
goes off to read more apache-specific pages |
10:23 |
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rangi |
ed is back |
10:24 |
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drojf |
dcook: if you are following the wiki, you'll have to restart apache a few times, or just at the end :) |
10:24 |
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dcook |
drojf: Yep, following the wiki |
10:25 |
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dcook |
I figure I'll probably just restart it at the end |
10:29 |
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dcook |
Hmm, I'm a bit stumped |
10:30 |
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dcook |
Oh well, moving on |
10:40 |
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dcook |
Hmm... |
10:41 |
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dcook |
Created my instance but no idea how to access it now |
10:42 |
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drojf |
did you do any dns stuff? if no, visit server-ip:8080 |
10:42 |
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dcook |
I didn't do any dns stuff, but I also didn't make any changes for apache to listen to 8080 |
10:42 |
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dcook |
As I couldn't remember how to do that ;) |
10:43 |
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drojf |
ah. i thought you were doing that when i came in |
10:43 |
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dcook |
I second-guessed myself in the end |
10:43 |
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drojf |
open /etc/apache2/ports.conf or what it is called and add 'Listen 8080' under 'Listen 80' |
10:43 |
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drojf |
and restart. that should be all |
10:44 |
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dcook |
Nice! I see a web installer! |
10:44 |
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dcook |
Danke, drojf! |
10:45 |
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drojf |
dcook: gern geschehen :) |
10:46 |
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* rangi |
heads to bed |
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kf |
night rangi :) |
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drojf |
night rangi |
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dcook |
night rangi |
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kf |
nice effect there - every nick being a bit longer :) |
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dcook |
drojf++ |
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dcook |
I thought it might be as easy as putting Listen 8080, but I wasn't sure because of the NameVirtualHost bit having *:80 |
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dcook |
Hmm, can't seem to access the OPAC... |
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dcook |
Just realized that there are no bib records in a fresh install so maybe zebra is working.. |
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* dcook |
really should be out in the rain and not on the computer.. |
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dcook |
Ack, out of time |
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dcook |
Thanks again rangi, drojf |
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dcook |
I'll have to look more at this on the weekend\' |
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magnuse |
koha_on_the_weekend++ |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
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magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 19.0°C (1:20 PM CEST on May 22, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). |
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* dcook |
might try to sneak a bit more Koha in tonight... |
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dcook |
Hmm, zebra working. Yay! |
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dcook |
A bit laggy though. |
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dcook |
I guess it's rare that you'd catalogue a book and then want immediate access to it though |
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dcook |
Well, potentially rare... |
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jcamins |
dcook: koha-translate in 3.12 takes care of localizing the packages. |
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kf |
dcook: i think there was work on the indexer for the packages... maybe ask tcohen |
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dcook |
jcamins: I meant in terms of building my own packages |
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dcook |
kf: Good to know. I want to say there was always a bit of a delay though. We have custom zebra settings at work |
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jcamins |
Oh, you just build packages the same way that anyone else does. |
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dcook |
Still not able to access the OPAC following the Debian package install.. |
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dcook |
jcamins: Yeah, I started looking through the wiki, and it mentioned a page to look at. Plus, I seem to remember you having a script in your git repo somewhere. |
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kf |
dcook: which url are you trying? |
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dcook |
Much more interested in accessing the OPAC than building packages at this point though |
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dcook |
Well, I access the staff client by going to 192.168.1.xxx:8080 |
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dcook |
But when I try 192.168.1:80, it just gives me Apache's default page |
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dcook |
Which makes a certain amount of sense, I suppose.. |
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jcamins |
dcook: `sudo a2dissite default` |
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dcook |
Mmm |
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kf |
^^ |
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jcamins |
Then restart Apache. |
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dcook |
You are a gentleman and a scholar, jcamins |
12:10 |
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dcook |
jcamins++ |
12:10 |
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dcook |
Hey ya oleonard |
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oleonard |
Hi |
12:10 |
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dcook |
Whereabouts do the apache config files live for Debian installs? |
12:10 |
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dcook |
That don't use the...koha-sites.conf |
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jcamins |
/etc/apache2/sites* |
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dcook |
Beautiful! |
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wahanui |
it has been said that Beautiful! is that a "moving to jquery (ui)" thing? |
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dcook |
Many thanks again, jcamins :) |
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dcook |
Mmm, and sites-enabled is just a symlink...sweet |
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magnuse |
dcook: look at debian/build-git-snapshot if you want to build your own packages. it's fun! |
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* dcook |
claps |
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oleonard |
wahanui: forget Beautiful! |
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wahanui |
oleonard, I didn't have anything matching beautiful |
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oleonard |
wahanui: forget Beautiful\! |
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wahanui |
oleonard, I didn't have anything matching beautiful\ |
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kf |
oleonard: why not let him keep ti? :) |
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* oleonard |
takes all of wahanui's toys for himself |
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magnuse |
dcook: the symlinks are created and destroyed by the a2ensite and a2dissite commands, respectively :-) |
12:15 |
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jcamins |
dcook: I use this: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]556cac832;hb=HEAD |
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jcamins |
(for building packages) |
12:15 |
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magnuse |
dbic++ |
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kf |
oleonard: lol |
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kf |
oleonard: no pressure at all intended - but do you have a timeframe in mind for the new templates? :) |
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jcamins |
oleonard: okay, maybe a little bit of pressure. :P |
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kf |
not from me- i am just curious :) |
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magnuse |
ooh, yes now we can start nagging oleonard about that ;-) |
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oleonard |
The only timeframe I have at the moment is that I want it in 3.14 |
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kf |
yay :) |
12:19 |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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oleonard |
...and I want it in with plenty of time for y'all to kick the tires. |
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magnuse |
good plan |
12:19 |
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magnuse |
even better! :-) |
12:19 |
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kf |
excellent :) |
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oleonard |
At this point I'm still not sure what the proper way of submitting it is. |
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kf |
hm git branch maybe? |
12:20 |
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kf |
we could make use of this pushed for qa status :) |
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kf |
oh |
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oleonard |
I talked before about having it replace CCSR, but I should probably submit it as a third theme for testing purposes. |
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kf |
wouldn't it 'must' be new files in a new theme directory? |
12:21 |
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kf |
just... |
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kf |
I think maybe naming it 'default' like someone suggested would be good |
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jcamins |
kf: I don't think "pushed for QA" would be necessary, since even without using that several patchsets that were developed in branches got in. :) |
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oleonard |
I'm going on the assumption that we want a new default theme, and that we don't want to support more than one theme anymore. |
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jcamins |
oleonard: both sound good to me. |
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oleonard |
My idea, to reiterate, is to replace CCSR with the new theme in 3.14 |
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oleonard |
Then in 3.16 or whatever, drop prog and make the new theme default |
12:26 |
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jcamins |
Sounds good to me. |
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dcook |
oleonard++ |
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kf |
oleonard: agreed - i was only wondering if we should drop ccsr directly or one release later |
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dcook |
All right. I think it's bedtime. Thanks again jcamins, kf, drojf, rangi, magnuse, and anyone I missed! |
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kf |
good night dcook |
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dcook |
Your help has been very much appreciated :) |
12:28 |
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dcook |
I think there is a new convert to using Debian packages ;) |
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kf |
dcook: the real fun starts when you do more than one instance :) |
12:28 |
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magnuse |
oleonard++ |
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mtj |
i guess we still need to have some non-bootstrap theme in koha, for older web-browsers? |
12:28 |
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kf |
yep oleonard++ :) |
12:29 |
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kf |
mtj: so it's not degrading? |
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oleonard |
mtj: What problems do you see with older browsers? |
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jcamins |
mtj: why? The OPAC already doesn't work with anything older than IE6. |
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mtj |
hey, i'm completely fine with bootstrap :) |
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mtj |
but, other people on the lists were saying that bootstrap didnt run on their old browers |
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mtj |
…to which my reply would be 'well, upgrade your browser...?' :) |
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jcamins |
Yeah, if you're using IE5 (or even IE6), you need to not be using it anymore. |
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kf |
so what does happen if it does not run? |
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oleonard |
If I had my way we would drop support for IE7 too |
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kf |
i woudl guess it breaks part of the responsiveness |
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kf |
? |
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jcamins |
kf: well, right now if you try to view the OPAC on IE5 all the Javascript breaks and it's a huge mess. |
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oleonard |
Older browsers can't do responsive, but that should just mean that the design isn't responsive. |
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jcamins |
And, yes, I know this from experience. |
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jcamins |
Same issue in Safari 1. |
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oleonard |
...and if you're running IE5 on your phone, you've got serious issues we can't address. :P |
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jcamins |
lol |
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jcamins |
Very true. |
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wahanui |
I know. That's why I said it. |
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kf |
oleonard: heh |
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mtj |
cool, i agree with all of that ^^ |
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kf |
mtj: isn't it night for you? |
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kf |
mtj: according to your sleeping rhythm you should move to europe :) |
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oleonard |
Okay, so I'll treat my new theme as a third one for now so that it's easy to test alongside the stable ones. |
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jcamins |
Makes sense to me. |
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oleonard |
Lucky me, I get to play the "maintain your own custom theme" game for a while :) |
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mtj |
kf, yeah, 00:30 here - i'm about to head to bed |
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drojf |
but... what if my windows live dvd system comes with IE5 and i want to keep using it? |
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drojf |
windows 3.11 live floppy disk |
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jcamins |
lol |
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NateC |
'ello |
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magnuse |
drojf: that's a question for the google group |
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oleonard |
Okay, I had patience enough to jump into the Live DVD thread yesterday, but now it's all gone. |
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jcamins |
lol |
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oleonard |
All of us who suggest that Live DVDs may not be the best way to run Koha in production are evil elitists and we're all wrong. |
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jcamins |
Yeah. |
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jcamins |
I am sending one e-mail. |
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magnuse |
jcamins++ for letting myshkin have a voice too ;-) |
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druthb |
g'mornin', #koha |
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NateC |
hey druthb! |
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kf |
jcamins++ |
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kf |
well myshkin++ really |
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jcamins |
Cats are people too! |
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jcamins |
I could've used my own introduction to Koha as an example of why live cds are problematic. |
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jcamins |
Oh well. |
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jcamins |
That message was more than long enough anyway. |
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drojf |
jcamins: there will be plenty of time while the thread continues. wait till paul enters it |
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jcamins |
drojf: I'm done. |
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jcamins |
Ooh, mute! |
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jcamins |
I always forget about mute. |
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drojf |
:D |
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jcamins |
Done. |
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* jcamins |
leaves. |
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NateC |
So Huntsville County Library System has just signed on for an implementation and ongoing support for Koha |
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NateC |
the significance of this? |
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magnuse |
w00t anyway! |
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kf |
wrong channel? |
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NateC |
IT was the headquarters of Sirsi Dynix! |
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kf |
woot :) |
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NateC |
nope right channel |
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kf |
IT? |
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wahanui |
IT is probably changing a default behaviour |
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NateC |
win for Koah |
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kf |
oh IT |
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kf |
sorry lol |
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kf |
congrats! :) |
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magnuse |
not bad for Koha either ;-) |
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NateC |
my point exactly |
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NateC |
the evil empire is crumbling |
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NateC |
slowly |
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NateC |
so the "service" rep for Sirsi lives in Huntsville and uses their library |
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NateC |
that makes me smile |
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magnuse |
hehe |
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drojf |
lol |
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drojf |
nice |
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oleonard |
Okay, now there's a bug for it: Bug 10309 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10309 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap |
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kf |
oleonard++ :) |
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magnuse |
oleonard++ |
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oleonard |
Thanks, I should tell you guys every time I file a bug ;) |
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tcohen |
morning #koha |
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drojf |
hi tcohen |
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tcohen |
hi drojf |
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* drojf |
heads home |
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tcohen |
Bug 9735 is a useful one |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9735 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Choose language using URL parameters in any page |
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aj_ |
Any idead on how to Set email as username in Patron Self Registration module |
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aj_ |
http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]le-tp5755514.html |
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oleonard |
aj_: Since there is no preference for that I assume that you can't do that without modifying the code. |
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aj_ |
any suggestion what code modification would be required |
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oleonard |
aj_: No, but if you search the code for references to one of the prefs, like PatronSelfRegistrationDefaultCategory, you might get some clues. |
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aj_ |
thank you! will try that out |
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oleonard |
aj_: A worthwhile contribution would be to add a new system preference letting the librarian choose how to create the username |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Quote #218: "rangi: ... graciousness never ever hurts." (added by mtompset at 08:25 AM, October 07, 2012) |
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Starting build #45 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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* aj_ |
slaps aj_ around a bit with a large fishbot |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10261: Link to patron files missing from circ-menu.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]453e12b868936a3bf> |
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rafael |
Hi everyone! |
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rafael |
I am trying to install pt_br translation to koha 3.12 in ubuntu 13.04.... I am getting an Can't find C4 context error. Although I have exported the variable with sudo env PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib/ |
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rafael |
I get: Can't locate C4/Context.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.14 /usr/share/perl/5.14 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) |
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kf |
i think maybe do export |
14:52 |
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rafael |
I tried both env and export |
14:52 |
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kf |
how did you install koha? |
14:52 |
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rafael |
export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib |
14:52 |
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kf |
are you using packages? |
14:52 |
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rafael |
kf, following the wiki. Packages the webinstaller |
14:52 |
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kf |
ah |
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rafael |
kf: yes |
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kf |
in 3.12 there are new commands ot handle installations in packages |
14:53 |
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kf |
i will find the bug for you |
14:53 |
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rafael |
kf: Thanks |
14:53 |
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kf |
i think the problem is the user |
14:53 |
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kf |
the new scripts shoudl take care of that |
14:53 |
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kf |
bug 10041 |
14:53 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10041 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Provide a koha-translate script to aid package users on installing translations |
14:54 |
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kf |
hm perhaps try koha-translate --help |
14:55 |
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kf |
should be as easy as koha-translate -i pt_br i think |
14:55 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9507: prevent submit: refactor some code in a js file <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]940e30fba0819804e> |
14:55 |
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rafael |
kf: Thanks a lot... To download the the po files do I need to register in the translation communisties. I found the po files there, but no link to download them.. |
14:56 |
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kf |
hm they should be in your version already I think |
14:56 |
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kf |
3.12 was released with the latest po files from pootle |
14:56 |
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kf |
but if you really want newer files (and there are valid reasons) just register and check the 'review' tab - there is the download button |
14:56 |
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rafael |
kf: Thanks a lot! |
14:56 |
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kf |
registering needs a confirmed email address, but should work |
14:57 |
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kf |
np - hope it works :) |
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rafael |
Installarion of pt-BR worked. I changed the i18n to pt-br in both staff and opac and restarted apache. Reloaded but interface is still in English |
15:01 |
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rafael |
Do I need to recretae an instance? |
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tcohen |
no you don't |
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tcohen |
you don't need to restart apache either |
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maximep |
try activating opaclanguagesdisplay and look at if it's listed |
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maximep |
on the bottom of pages |
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tcohen |
on the bottom left corner you should see "Portuguese" |
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oleonard |
rafael: Do you have both en and pt-br enabled in system preferences? |
15:10 |
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rafael |
I see. Sorry before you answered I removed my instance and created a new one hopping I would get the installer again... Now I can't reach the webinstaller. I just get a It works apache message. |
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rafael |
http://localhost:8080/ brings me the default apache installed page... Maybe I need to a2ensite again? It says it already exists |
15:11 |
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rafael |
koha-list show me the instance was sucessfuly created |
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tcohen |
run koha-list --enabled |
15:13 |
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rafael |
Got it. Just needed to set the apache virtualhost to 8080 |
15:14 |
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rafael |
Thanks a lot |
15:14 |
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rafael |
Now I hve the option to resume the installer in pt_br |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.12.x build #45: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.12.x/45/ |
15:20 |
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jenkins_koha |
Owen Leonard: Bug 2774 - Path to theme is hard-coded in many places |
15:20 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2774 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, In Discussion , Path to theme is hard-coded in many places |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1192 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10080: DBRev 3.13.00.002 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ebf4d3382bd966c6f> / Bug 10080: (followup) change two last instances of the old syspref name <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]55de6341a6b6410bb> / Bug 10080 - Change system pref IndependantBranches to IndependentBranches - Followup <http://git.koha-commun |
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oleonard |
The long nightmare is over. |
15:28 |
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kf |
lol |
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kf |
hopefully we didn't miss some weirdness :) |
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reiveune |
bye |
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kf |
gmcharlt++ :) |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: bug 7718: DBRev 3.13.00.003 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]27c65e8b19fc9d91a> / Bug 7718 - Remove itemnumber column from serials table <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]95112920fa2fc784c> |
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Project Koha_master build #1192: SUCCESS in 1 hr 16 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1192/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 10261: Link to patron files missing from circ-menu.tt |
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jenkins_koha |
* Jonathan Druart: Bug 9507: prevent submit: refactor some code in a js file |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10261 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Link to patron files missing from circ-menu.tt |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9507 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Some code used to prevent form from being unexpectedly submitted is duplicated |
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* cait |
waves |
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gaetan_B |
bye ! |
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tcohen |
gmcharlt: should 10080 be considered fr 3.12.x? Didn't read it yet |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.12.x build #46: SUCCESS in 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.12.x/46/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10251: Fix typos in Patron Permissions Help |
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jenkins_koha |
* Magnus Enger: Bug 10288 - Fix a tiny typo on "Pending offline circulation actions" |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10251 minor, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Stable , typos in help/members/member-flags.tt |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10288 trivial, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Stable , Tiny typo on "Pending offline circulation actions" |
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jcamins |
but 10080 |
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jcamins |
bug 10080 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10080 trivial, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Change system pref IndependantBranches to IndependentBranches |
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jcamins |
tcohen: absolutely not. |
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jcamins |
IMO |
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tcohen |
because of the DB change? |
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tcohen |
is not relevant right now |
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jcamins |
Because it's high-risk and low-reward. |
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tcohen |
exactly, agreed |
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oleonard |
no reward at all for people who only care about stable. |
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gmcharlt |
yeah, the reasons why it was held back for 3.12 still apply to a stable branch |
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gmcharlt |
one thing to note -- patches don't have to be cherry-picked from master to a stable branch *instantly* |
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gmcharlt |
it's OK to wait to see if there are any side-effects first |
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tcohen |
gmcharlt: is there a roadmap for 3.14 already established somewhere? |
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gmcharlt |
tcohen: no; I need to do that |
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tcohen |
bugzilla doesn't have the concept of milestones, right? |
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tcohen |
(assign a collection of bugs to a goal, called milestone 3.14 , and such) |
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tcohen |
like this http://tinyurl.com/prvx76x |
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oleonard |
cait did you do some batch bug changes like you threatened to the other day? |
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rambutan |
is there a way to enable logging of OPAC search terms, whether the user is logged in or not? |
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gmcharlt |
tcohen: the problem with that is that there's no way to *require* that any particular bugs that make up a milestone actually be worked on |
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tcohen |
which bz version are we on? |
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tcohen |
I mean *at* |
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oleonard |
4.2.5 |
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tcohen |
milestone definition is supported, maybe it just doesn't fit our dev workflow/process |
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cait |
oleonard: negative |
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cait |
i am still trying to come up with a list trying to remember what we did last time |
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gmcharlt |
tcohen: I don't think it does, except possibly as a way to tag bugs *after* we know that the patches have made it in for a particular release |
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* Kyle M Hall: Bug 10080 - Change system pref IndependantBranches to IndependentBranches |
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jenkins_koha |
* Kyle M Hall: Bug 10080 - Change system pref IndependantBranches to IndependentBranches - Followup |
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jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: Bug 10080: (followup) change two last instances of the old syspref name |
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jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: Bug 10080: DBRev 3.13.00.002 |
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jenkins_koha |
* Kyle M Hall: Bug 7718 - Remove itemnumber column from serials table |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10080 trivial, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Change system pref IndependantBranches to IndependentBranches |
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jenkins_koha |
* Galen Charlton: bug 7718: DBRev 3.13.00.003 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7718 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Remove itemnumber column from serials table |
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maximep |
should I change the Version of bug 9394 to 3.14 or leave it to master ? Isn't master the next version, 3.14 ? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9394 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Use reserve_id where possible |
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gmcharlt |
maximep: I say leave it at master |
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gmcharlt |
at least so far, assigning a specific version to a bug is most useful if the bug *only* affects that version |
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maximep |
ok thx |
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maximep |
my first signoff hehe |
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maximep |
it was about time, after 2 years of working on koha -_- |
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* magnuse |
waves goodbye to IndependantBranches |
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magnuse |
maximep++ |
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maximep |
khall++ for the great work you're doing |
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cait |
sorry was afk, reading back now |
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magnuse |
maximep: don't forget to change the status in bugzilla ;-) |
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cait |
oleonard: did you have one specific change in mind? |
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cait |
or a plan? :) |
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cait |
i can try and ask rangi to help me by switching mail off and do the changes we come up with |
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oleonard |
Nope, just thought to wonder after hearing the talk about milestones |
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gmcharlt |
maximep++ |
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cait |
we did some changes to mark things resolved fixed that had been released last time |
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cait |
so i think maybe we would mark pushed to stable and pushed to master bugs from before the release as resolved fixed |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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mtompset |
I was doing a git rebase on my patch that I'm hacking around on. |
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cait |
gmcharlt, oleonard everyone else opinions on that idea? :) |
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cait |
and maximep++ :) |
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* druthb |
blames cait. |
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mtompset |
-- what idea? |
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cait |
druthb: ? |
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* druthb |
shrugs. |
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gmcharlt |
cait: seems reasonable to me |
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cait |
(20:44:00) cait: so i think maybe we could mark pushed to stable and pushed to master bugs from before the release as resolved fixed |
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maximep |
magnuse: oops, tought I had changed it when I sent the patch. thx |
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cait |
i'd also like to reset some assignees that are no longer active |
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cait |
we still have lots assigned to sekjal and hdl |
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cait |
but not sure if I can do a good search for those... i always struggle with names |
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oleonard |
They'll be back when they start missing us too much. |
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magnuse |
awww... |
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cait |
you think? :) |
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mtompset |
-- I was noticing a code change to older way of checking in the updatedatabase.pl on latest master stuff. |
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gmcharlt |
mtompset: hmm? |
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mtompset |
the old long style if with TransformToNum in it vs. CheckVersion() |
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jcamins |
mtompset: yes. |
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gmcharlt |
mtompset: ah, yeah, the course reserves patch has been around for yonks before it got merged |
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mtompset |
Was there a reason? |
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jcamins |
CheckVersion makes it easier to transition to the proposed database update scheme. |
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gmcharlt |
and I plain goofed with the 3.13.00.000 |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: which to emphasize, remains just a proposal from my POV |
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mtompset |
So, should all the if's be nice and pretty and the same? |
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jcamins |
mtompset: it doesn't really matter. |
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mtompset |
okay, so then, which way should I be doing it? |
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gmcharlt |
mtompset: CheckVersion |
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mtompset |
Okay... just making sure. :0 |
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cait |
jcamins: did you see the updatedatabase improvment showed up in the release notes? |
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jcamins |
I did not. |
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jcamins |
Oh well. |
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cait |
i think the script is not prepared for reverts |
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jcamins |
Yeah, definitely not prepared for reverts. |
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* jcamins |
checks if he cares... |
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jcamins |
nope. :D |
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cait |
heh |
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gmcharlt |
jcamins: which actually might speak to the one use for milestones that I can see |
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gmcharlt |
(BZ milestones, that is) |
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jcamins |
gmcharlt: yeah, I definitely think those could be good. |
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jcamins |
But that requires an active bug wrangler. |
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jcamins |
And I think Dyrcona can speak to how much work that is. |
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gmcharlt |
in part, although one part lends itself to automation, namely tagging bugs that change state to 'pushed to master' with the upcomnig major release milestone |
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cait |
gmcharlt++ btw :) |
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jcamins |
I guess if people could be taught to not mark milestones on bugs they've not actually fixed most could be automated. |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: prefer CheckVersion in updatedatabase.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ed62e48af34b3788c> |
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gmcharlt |
mtompset++ |
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mtompset |
Thank you. Not a biggie. :) |
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cait |
hi pianohacker |
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pianohacker |
hi cait |
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pianohacker |
how's it going? |
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cait |
good, busy :) |
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pianohacker |
know the feeling :) what are you up to? |
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cait |
hm too many things at once? :) |
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pianohacker |
yeah, medical issues, helping friends move, work, etc. |
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pianohacker |
just runnin' all over the place |
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cait |
oh right, you mentioned something about your hearing? |
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pianohacker |
yeah, had surgery for a bone-attached hearing aid on monday, and the little healing cap over the gauze decided to fall off yesterday |
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cait |
hm and that's not good then? |
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pianohacker |
no, not really. in doctor's office right now, working over phone internet |
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pianohacker |
anyway |
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pianohacker |
I'm griping |
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pianohacker |
what are you up to |
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cait |
just a lot of work and different projects |
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cait |
lots of interest this year in koha :) |
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cait |
and need to update our manuals and prepare a bigger training |
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pianohacker |
good! |
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pianohacker |
that's excellent news |
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cait |
hope your ear is going to be ok |
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jcamins |
... |
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jcamins |
oh my. |
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drojf |
hm. so arguments are unhealthy, to question something is an incredibly negative response and all that somehow relates to a longish article about sexism that i am not going to read tonight? i guess i just take my "trolly" label and not respond to that thread anymore |
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jcamins |
Huh? |
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drojf |
its that thread you don't read ;) |
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rangi |
drojf: thats what i did |
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cait |
the new pootle looks great |
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drojf |
cait: yay |
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cait |
wonder if it will be hard to upgrade? |
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rangi |
took it as an attempt to shut down discussion, shut down my discussion, ill refer ppl who get hacked to that thread :) |
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cait |
drojf: for example i like that: http://docs.translatehouse.org[…]ng-quality-checks |
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drojf |
it looked easy in the mail ;) |
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rangi |
cait: bgkriegel is TM eh? |
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cait |
yep |
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jcamins |
rangi: indeed. |
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drojf |
but i am not responsible for that server. it's always easy if you just have to nag somebody :P |
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cait |
but not sure if he had time to take a look at the server and the internals yet |
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pianohacker |
And thus the reasoning behind the mute key in GMail and my great love for it :P |
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rangi |
soon as i get the .po files for 3.10.6 nad 3.8.13 |
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rangi |
he should be able to try if he wants |
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cait |
bgkriegel bgkriegel bgkriegel |
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* cait |
tries summoning :P |
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jcamins |
pianohacker: wait, there's a *key* for mute in GMail? |
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rangi |
2.5.0 does look awesome |
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jcamins |
tirtmi |
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cait |
jcamins: ? |
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rangi |
2.5.1 is scheduled for 6 montsh |
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drojf |
bgkriegel bgkriegel bgkriegel |
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* drojf |
tries to help |
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rangi |
they are copying us :-) *grin* |
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jcamins |
cait: pianohacker said there was a key. |
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cait |
drojf: apertium? http://docs.translatehouse.org[…]nslation-services |
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drojf |
cait: yay! |
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rangi |
he's in peru at the moment iirc |
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rangi |
training koha users |
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rangi |
koha_southish_america++ |
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cait |
bgkriegel++ :) |
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jcamins |
http://www.kino-teatr.ru/kino/[…]e/sov/8476/annot/ <-- I would like the OPAC to do this. |
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jcamins |
(mouse over the names) |
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rangi |
cool |
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druthb |
rangi: ready to retire as RMaint? |
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druthb |
;-) |
20:15 |
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rangi |
jcamins: do they store images as part of VIAF ? |
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rangi |
druthb: yes indeed! |
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* druthb |
is ready to finish her retirement as â„¢. |
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druthb |
Look for a pull req pair when I get home shortly. |
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rangi |
ok gotta go take kids to school |
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rangi |
thanks :) |
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cait |
cya later rangi |
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jcamins |
rangi: nope. :( |
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pianohacker |
jcamins: yep, m |
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jcamins |
pianohacker: nice! |
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jenkins_koha |
Galen Charlton: prefer CheckVersion in updatedatabase.pl |
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jcamins |
This may delay my unsubscribing from koha-devel. |
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pianohacker |
hahahahaha |
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jcamins |
pianohacker: I actually previously announced that I was going to set koha-devel to NOMAIL tomorrow, due to the high volume of nonsense and low volume of non-bikeshed painting. |
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jcamins |
I am not sure if you have done the community a favor or a disservice. :P |
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cait |
hm and i didn't get tha tmail yet |
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cait |
pianohacker: what did you do? |
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jcamins |
cait: told me about 'm' so that I can just mute everthing rather than outright setting it to NOMAIL. |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
what does mute mean? |
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jcamins |
(a button is too much work) |
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jcamins |
Just what it sounds like... hide the thread. |
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pianohacker |
future replies wont end up in your inbox |
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drojf |
i forgot, what's with the most important topic of version naming? |
20:46 |
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drojf |
or numbering |
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wahanui |
i guess numbering is confusing me |
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drojf |
ah, postponed to next meeting |
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cait |
hm we have about 700 bugs in pushed to master/pushed to stable now |
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cait |
some from last release - 2012 |
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cait |
hi BobB |
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drojf |
"It is with huge pleasure that the Debian GNU/Hurd team announces the release of Debian GNU/Hurd 2013" |
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drojf |
does koha run on hurd? |
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jcamins |
If you recompile Zebra for it, probably. |
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pianohacker |
I imagine the question is more "does zebra/mysql/perl/our five quadrillion dependencies run on hurd" |
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pianohacker |
aaaaaaand yeah, zebra's going to be the worst |
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pianohacker |
just because it's zebra |
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pianohacker |
oh wow |
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drojf |
ha. i'll just use nozebra ^^ |
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wizzyrea |
err |
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wizzyrea |
nozebra is deprecated |
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wizzyrea |
your outcomes will be less than good I think. |
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pianohacker |
i didnt realize anyone had bothered to deprecate it |
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wizzyrea |
re: numbering, I think we are going to keep Pi, and start big number incrementing afterwards |
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wizzyrea |
so release 3.14, then 4, 5, 6 etc |
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wizzyrea |
maybe we'll skip four and 5 - not sure. |
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pianohacker |
figured the first search attempt with more than ~1000 bibs would cure anyone's desire to use it |
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wizzyrea |
4 & 5 could create confusion with the other not-koha |
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pianohacker |
oh, we're pulling a chrome? |
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wizzyrea |
that's the proposal |
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magnuse |
jcamins: http://esme.priv.bibkat.no/cgi[…]pl?biblionumber=4 |
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* wizzyrea |
would be content to just skip all the way to 10 |
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wizzyrea |
and start there. |
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wizzyrea |
(all that above makes it sound like I really have a strong opinion - I don't. Whatever will be fine by me) |
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Dyrcona |
Sounds more like a Slackware to me.... ;) |
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pianohacker |
if only for the release after |
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pianohacker |
koha: spinal tap edition |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ |
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jcamins |
magnuse: a nice start! |
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magnuse |
have fun #koha! |
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jcamins |
I guess we have a meeting in two weeks. |
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jcamins |
I think maybe I'll miss it. |
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pianohacker |
uh oh |
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pianohacker |
"but sir, why not just make a Koha that's just as fast, and call that Koha 10?" |
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pianohacker |
"... but this one goes up to eleven" |
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jcamins |
lol |
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jcamins |
Exactly. |
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jcamins |
You know what? It's time to go home. |
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jcamins |
Bye. |
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pianohacker |
bye jcamins |
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drojf |
wizzyrea: i know about nozebra. i'll just use a version old enough ;) |
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drojf |
also, what about koha 3000? :D |
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pianohacker |
only if we switch to python |
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mtompset |
Switch to python?! That would be a truly fundamental change. |
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rambutan1 |
Please re-write Koha in Python or Ada. See perl errors: http://paste.koha-community.org/22 |
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wizzyrea |
some of those searches are humorous |
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rambutan1 |
clearly perl ain't no good for nothin' |
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wizzyrea |
dfghtgvyjkfyjuyjktrtv |
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rambutan1 |
If a programming language can't even self-initialize variables.... |
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cait |
not sure we can blame perl for us programming badly |
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wizzyrea |
^ |
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cait |
rambutan1: it can and it does |
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cait |
or your search wouldn't work i gues |
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cait |
s |
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cait |
it just warns |
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wizzyrea |
popcorn? |
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wahanui |
popcorn is a vital part of any work day. |
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wizzyrea |
popcorn is also http://persephonemagazine.com/[…]art-popcorn11.gif |
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wahanui |
okay, wizzyrea. |
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wizzyrea |
popcorn? |
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wahanui |
i heard popcorn was http://persephonemagazine.com/[…]art-popcorn11.gif |
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wizzyrea |
confetti is also http://25.media.tumblr.com/tum[…]1qh8hleo1_400.gif |
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wahanui |
okay, wizzyrea. |
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pianohacker |
popcorn _and_ confetti? |
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pianohacker |
:( |
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cait |
why looking so sad? |
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pianohacker |
was hoping for both... |
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pianohacker |
what happened to rhcl, anyway? |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Hello? |
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wahanui |
somebody said Hello was it necessary to make hold limit nil in system preference if it is already set in circulation privilege different for different users group |
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pianohacker |
hah, bot's being overeager |
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pianohacker |
hi, YoungPublicLibrarian |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Is there anyone on that is versed in writing reports for koha? |
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wizzyrea |
ask? |
22:25 |
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wahanui |
Don't ask to ask, just ask. |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Yes, well... Asking a room that knows nothing about what you're asking is somewhat counter productive... |
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pianohacker |
well, of course |
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wizzyrea |
no seriously, go ahead. |
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pianohacker |
and we do appreciate that |
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pianohacker |
but we're such a small community that if we don't know the answer we know who does |
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wizzyrea |
has anybody experienced processing returns that doesn't remove the reserve from the list of reserves? |
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wizzyrea |
I have someone reporting that and it's rather mystifying. |
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eythian |
hi |
22:28 |
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wahanui |
niihau, eythian |
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pianohacker |
hi eythian |
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eythian |
jcamins: that'll be the second time someone pointed out muting threads to you then :) |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
I was wondering if there is a way to write a report to display all items hidden from the OPAC by a specific branch? |
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wizzyrea |
that should be possible |
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wizzyrea |
how are you hiding them? |
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pianohacker |
ohh man, just dug through email |
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eythian |
hi papa |
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pianohacker |
gmcharlt++ |
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wizzyrea |
ikr |
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pianohacker |
gmcharlt: I love you so much for fixing that typo you don't even know |
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* wizzyrea |
too |
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pianohacker |
I care about spelling more than I should and that bugged me _so_ _much_ while working on sysprefs |
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wizzyrea |
i don't think it was a typo |
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wizzyrea |
I think it was a frenchism |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
There is a selection list in the cataloguers window that an option is "Hidden from OPAC" That is how they are hidden. |
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wizzyrea |
you feelin alright you're usually cheerier than this. :/ |
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wizzyrea |
not that you have to be cheerful mind you. |
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gmcharlt |
pianohacker: next thing to tackle... my nemesis, wthdrawn! |
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pianohacker |
hehehe |
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pianohacker |
wizzyrea: ? |
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wizzyrea |
items = biblio or items = item |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
The old cataloguer had hidden each issue of all our magazines and the new cataloguer wants a list of all hidden items to see what else was hidden from OPAC. That's what I need the report for, but I couldn't find any references to the hidden from OPAC field in the scheme or library. |
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* eythian |
points gmcharlt in the direction of the 'creat' system call, and the 'referer' HTTP header. |
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gmcharlt |
heh |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Anyone have any ideas? |
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eythian |
YoungPublicLibrarian: where is the option? is it on the biblio or item level? |
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wizzyrea |
in edit record or edit items? |
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wizzyrea |
ha jinx |
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* eythian |
knows nothing about "hidden from opac" but could probably make an educated guess with more information. |
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wizzyrea |
same |
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pianohacker |
It sounds like an addition to, of all things, the wthdrawn authorized values |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Lol, if I was the cataloguer I would know the answers. I do believe its under item level and edit record. But I'm not sure. I do know the field is "c-shelving location:" |
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wizzyrea |
easy enough then |
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gmcharlt |
YoungPublicLibrarian: is there anything set in the OpacHiddenItems system preference? |
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wizzyrea |
she just wants to know what they are I think |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
That I have no idea about, gmcharlt. Wizzyrea is correct. |
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wizzyrea |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]s_Marked_On_Order |
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wizzyrea |
it'll be like this |
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wizzyrea |
but instead of items.notforloan it'll be... |
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wizzyrea |
items.location = whatever your value is |
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wizzyrea |
which you can find in the authorised value definitions |
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wizzyrea |
and you can add a limit for branch |
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wizzyrea |
which there are many recipes for in the library |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Okay. I'll try that and come back in a few days if I need more help. Thank you all so much! |
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wizzyrea |
good luck |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Hmmm, guess I need help sooner than I thought... How would I find the value of the item.location for the report? Would it say in the cataloguer area when editing the items? |
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jcamins |
eythian: I knew about muting... what I did not realize was that there was a keyboard shortcut. |
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eythian |
what MUA do you use? |
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jcamins |
Just gmail. |
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wizzyrea |
which you can find in the authorised value definitions -> more -> administration -> authorised value -> loc |
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eythian |
ah OK. |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Umm... You lost me. Where would the authorized value definitions be? On the scheme? |
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eythian |
YoungPublicLibrarian: in the staff client. |
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wizzyrea |
either click the giant "Administration" button -> Authorized values |
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wizzyrea |
or click More -> Administration -> Authorized Values |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Ah, crap... I'll have to work with my director on that then. I'm not allowed to have that level of control. |
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wizzyrea |
bother. |
22:56 |
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wizzyrea |
you can run reports though? |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Nope, I have a contact that can. As tech support I'm not trusted with those kind of privileges. :/ |
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wizzyrea |
O.o |
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eythian |
that does kinda mean you can't do support... |
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pianohacker |
yeah, normally tech support has rather high privileges |
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pianohacker |
otherwise solving issues like this is a game of telephone that just ends painfully for everyone |
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wizzyrea |
^^ |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
So I write up the reports, have my contact enter the report, I test it, make changes to the text file, have my contact repost the report and so on... It's rather tiresome... |
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pianohacker |
yeah, sounds like it |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Unfortunately, because I'm young and know more, tech wise, than my director I am not trusted with any kind of privileges for the network or system... Everything has to go through the director while she's right there. No matter how small... |
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pianohacker |
ahhhhhh, YoungPublicLibrarian, I sympathize more than you could know |
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wizzyrea |
hm. stink |
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pianohacker |
was in a similar situation at my first job, though my barriers had different names :) |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Yeah... But oh well. You do what you can... |
23:05 |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
When my director gets back from vacation I'll get with her and try to find the correct value... |
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eythian |
"We do what we must because we can"? |
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pianohacker |
yup. the true sign of craziness is sticking with libraries despite the people that work in them, including ourselves |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Ain't that the truth... |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Thank you to everyone that helped me out. I really appreciate it. I know just enough about Koha and SQL to get me into trouble but not enough to do what I want all the time... |
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pianohacker |
not a problem |
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pianohacker |
best of luck |
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YoungPublicLibrarian |
Have a good day everyone! Later. |
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