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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org. Next general IRC meeting 5 June 2013 at 18:00 UTC |
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rangi |
yeah boi |
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jcamins |
You know, it's kind of incredible how standards have changed in the past thirty years. |
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eythian |
wahanui: jcamins is also <reply>ask him about serials and/or acquisitions. |
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wahanui |
okay, eythian. |
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jcamins |
I just proofread a grant proposal from 1982. |
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jcamins |
A successful grant proposal. |
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jcamins |
It had errors that a freshman comp student today would get docked for. |
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dcook |
I like to think of it as progress but who knows |
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dcook |
I think my parents stopped being able to help me with my math homework by...8th or 9th grade, and both were university educated |
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dcook |
Mind you, my school was significantly better than theirs... |
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jcamins |
dcook: that's something a little different, though. You mostly don't use any math above 9th grade level in normal life. |
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dcook |
jcamins: True, but they said they'd never even seen anything like that. It wasn't about them not remembering how to do it. They really just hadn't seen it. But yeah, that is different. |
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dcook |
What sort of errors are int he grant proposal? |
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dcook |
in the* |
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jcamins |
Spelling errors, some basic grammatical errors, and a complete absence of consistency. |
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jcamins |
On a single page there are no fewer than three ways of representing lists. |
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dcook |
Are you sure freshman comp students today would get docked for that? |
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jcamins |
1. Like this |
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jcamins |
2) Like this |
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jcamins |
(3) Like this |
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jcamins |
Well, maybe they wouldn't lose points, but certainly there would be notes. |
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dcook |
I don't know if that's necessarily true. It might depend on the instructor and the school. |
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dcook |
At the beginning of my university education, spelling, grammar, and consistency mattered a lot |
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dcook |
By the end, it seemed to me that it was normal for errors to be in "polished" works |
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dcook |
Normal not being a good thing though :p |
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shrugs |
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wizzyrea |
Real life is messy. |
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dcook |
wizzyrea: Generally speaking, that's the way I'm leaning these days |
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jcamins |
Sure, but you end up failing to communicate due to singularly simple errors. |
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dcook |
I think part of that had to do with gender neutral pronouns |
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wizzyrea |
real life doesn't make sense all the time. |
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dcook |
Mmm, agreed, jcamins |
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rangi |
fixed the redirects now too |
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dcook |
wizzyrea: True, but are there times where you get an email and you have zero idea what it says? |
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wizzyrea |
real life is messy :) |
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wizzyrea |
it's only a problem if they refuse to clarify |
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dcook |
In most cases, that's true |
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dcook |
It can be quite stressful during high pressure situations |
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wizzyrea |
and imo, if scholarly publications aren't producing scholarly quality works, then it isn't a scholarly publication. |
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wizzyrea |
...but they still got it |
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wizzyrea |
which means it must have 1. been better than the other submissions and 2. it was good enough for the grant givers |
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jcamins |
Yup. |
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wizzyrea |
which I think says more about the grant givers than the submitter. |
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jcamins |
Oh, no doubt. |
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jcamins |
Hence my comment about standards. |
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wizzyrea |
well, you have to wonder if their standards had to be lowered because of the lack of quality of the submissions |
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wizzyrea |
sometimes you just HAVE TO GET RID OF THE MONEY |
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wizzyrea |
it does happen :/ |
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wizzyrea |
budget year's ending, whatever |
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jcamins |
That's a good point, though. |
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dcook |
true true |
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rangi |
phones arrived |
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wizzyrea |
\o/ |
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dcook |
I was once in an "elite" program which turned out not to be so elite because the applicants just weren't there |
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jcamins |
Phones? |
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dcook |
Which lowered the overall quality of the program as well :( |
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jcamins |
There is something... off... about the (software) dock on my laptop, and I can't figure out what it is. |
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jcamins |
I think when the trackpad was randomly clicking it removed one of the icons that was there. |
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jcamins |
Clearly not an important one. |
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wizzyrea |
hate it when that happens |
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wizzyrea |
things out of order? |
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jcamins |
I've been staring at it for several minutes, and I can't see anything out of order, so... no? |
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dcook |
Going senile, jcamins |
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wizzyrea |
did the icon change for your favorite app? |
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wizzyrea |
i've had that happen. |
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wizzyrea |
or one of your apps |
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jcamins |
Oh, maybe it's that the memory allocation monitor isn't all red. |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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jcamins |
Actually, I think I would vote for a feature that made it impossible to set the branch. |
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jcamins |
Make sure that no one uses the db user. |
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wizzyrea |
^^ |
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dcook |
? |
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wizzyrea |
or make it sufficiently irritating to set it (which it is now) that you don't bother to use it |
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dcook |
rangi, wizzyrea: Do you know if that issue with the z39.50 server description NULL/default value error ever got reported? |
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jcamins |
I don't think so. |
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dcook |
thanks, jcamins |
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dcook |
I'll enter one now |
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jcamins |
Bug 10079 is weird. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10079 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , HomeOrHoldingBranch should not control who can delete when IndependantBranches is enabled |
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jcamins |
You wouldn't think HomeOrHoldingBranch should have anything to do with deleting, ever. |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaOC9danxNo |
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dcook |
Hmm, true as, jcamins |
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dcook |
I guess I can see the logic, but...doesn't sound like a great idea |
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jcamins |
I can't even see the logic. |
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goes and takes a look at the actual preference |
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dcook |
Ah.. |
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dcook |
Yep, that's frakked |
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jcamins |
Wait... |
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jcamins |
I can't reproduce the bug. |
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jcamins |
Oh. |
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jcamins |
I see. |
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is delving into updatedatabase.pl |
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jcamins |
Odd... |
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jcamins |
Oh well. |
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dcook |
Does it do what it needs to do at least? |
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dcook |
cjh: Are you around? |
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cjh |
dcook: depends, am I in trouble? |
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dcook |
hehe, nope |
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jcamins |
Oh, yeah, I got past that one, and now I'm on bug 8840. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8840 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Passed QA , ubuntu-pkg-check.sh fix and extend functionality |
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dcook |
I was just wondering if you could run me through your updatedatabase.pl trick again |
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dcook |
rangi: Looks like pastebot is down? |
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rangi |
hm? |
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jcamins |
Yeah, 502. |
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jcamins |
updatedatabase.pl trick? |
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dcook |
Yeah, I'm always a bit terrified to make DB changes |
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cjh |
just bumping kohaversion.pl by 1 minor version, running web installer, and then bumping it back down. |
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cjh |
(for patches that still have an XXX) |
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rangi |
try that |
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dcook |
huzzah. Cheers, rangi :) |
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jcamins |
Oh. |
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jcamins |
I just run updatedatabase.pl directly. |
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dcook |
jcamins: I think that's what I usually do as well |
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dcook |
But as cjh pointed out, this way you get to see the web installer view |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
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cjh |
jcamins: yeah, I just prefer the web installer view and find it easier than setting up the koha-env :) |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_8840' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]318f2b14c04fe2ca4> / Bug 8840 - [SIGNED-OFF] Patch to solve false "All dependencies installed!" <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ea95d3da4baa0b8ff> / Bug 8840 - [SIGNED-OFF] ubuntu-pkg-check.sh fix and extend functionality <http://git.koha-com |
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jcamins |
Okay, four sets of packaging patches left. |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #28 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.12.x build #28: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.12.x/28/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* Adrien Saurat: Bug 10100: adds a class to OPAC news dates |
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jenkins_koha |
* Kyle M Hall: Bug 10079 - HomeOrHoldingBranch should not control who can delete when IndependantBranches is enabled |
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jenkins_koha |
* Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 8840 - [SIGNED-OFF] ubuntu-pkg-check.sh fix and extend functionality |
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jenkins_koha |
* Mark Tompsett: Bug 8840 - [SIGNED-OFF] Patch to solve false "All dependencies installed!" |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10100 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , OPAC News dates need an CSS handle (class) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10079 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , HomeOrHoldingBranch should not control who can delete when IndependantBranches is enabled |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8840 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , ubuntu-pkg-check.sh fix and extend functionality |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1169 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1164 6 days 12 hr ago) |
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jcamins |
By the way, for anyone who was wondering, a Raspberry Pi is not the ideal device for a home security system, as setting up a streaming webcam runs the risk of causing the system to OOM. |
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dcook |
jcamins: Good to know |
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dcook |
I was thinking of using one for security-related things |
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dcook |
i.e. wire it up to some floodlights so that you could turn them on remotely when you're down the street |
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dcook |
Much less demanding than a streaming webcam though.. |
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jcamins |
Other people have gotten it working. |
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jcamins |
So I am speculating that Apache (or something) tried to start itself up when I was testing the webcam. |
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eythian |
wahanui: yo mama is so fat, she doesn't support filenames longer than 8.3 characters. |
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wahanui |
OK, eythian. |
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dcook |
jcamins: I'd be interested to know how you go. I haven't picked up a raspi yet, but one of these days.. |
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jcamins |
I actually bought it for experimenting with as a home catalog, but I wanted something fun (read: silly) to do today, so I picked it up and started fiddling. |
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dcook |
hehe |
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dcook |
Yeah, I mostly just want one to do silly things with |
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* dcook |
really needs to start baking again |
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dcook |
That way, I can give people cookies to test bug 10096 :p |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10096 new feature, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Add a Z39.50 interface for authority searching |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #1169: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 11 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1169/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* Adrien Saurat: Bug 10100: adds a class to OPAC news dates |
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jenkins_koha |
* Kyle M Hall: Bug 10079 - HomeOrHoldingBranch should not control who can delete when IndependantBranches is enabled |
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jenkins_koha |
* Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 8840 - [SIGNED-OFF] ubuntu-pkg-check.sh fix and extend functionality |
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jenkins_koha |
* Mark Tompsett: Bug 8840 - [SIGNED-OFF] Patch to solve false "All dependencies installed!" |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10100 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , OPAC News dates need an CSS handle (class) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10079 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , HomeOrHoldingBranch should not control who can delete when IndependantBranches is enabled |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8840 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , ubuntu-pkg-check.sh fix and extend functionality |
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mtj |
peeps, what is the diff between a notice in koha, and its 'digest' version ? |
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dcook |
The digest version usually just includes a number, I think |
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wizzyrea |
the digest has all the things |
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dcook |
Whereas the regular notice includes all sorts |
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wizzyrea |
for example |
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wizzyrea |
if you have digests on for holds |
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wizzyrea |
hold notifications |
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wizzyrea |
if a borrower has 5 holds in a day come ready |
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mtj |
aah, ok… i should have looked |
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wizzyrea |
they will get one email |
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wizzyrea |
instead of 5 |
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dcook |
Hmm, mysql query browser didn't like a million+ records... |
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dcook |
wizzyrea: The digest email won't have any of the detailed information though |
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dcook |
It will just say, you have 5 holds |
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dcook |
It won't say you've got 5 holds which are titled 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, |
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dcook |
(minus that last ,) |
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wizzyrea |
hm are you sure? |
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dcook |
Not 100% |
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wizzyrea |
holds are a bad example because they don't have digest :) |
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dcook |
I've been looking at the advanced notice digest though |
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dcook |
And that seems to be the case |
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dcook |
Unless you've manually changed what goes into the <<items.content>> replacement, I think |
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wizzyrea |
the default one definitely only shows the count |
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dcook |
Mmm, yeah. I'm not sure about holds |
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dcook |
Right |
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dcook |
No digest for that one |
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wizzyrea |
holds don't have a digest :P |
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dcook |
hehe |
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wizzyrea |
check out and check in though are always digest |
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wizzyrea |
digested? |
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dcook |
Now I'm hungry again... |
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wizzyrea |
and at least check-out does show the titles |
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dcook |
Of course, I'm having issues with my dev emails anyways so I can't speak too much to notices atm |
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mtj |
the digest versions seem to often only have a 'count' style template, (but they can show itemised content?) |
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wizzyrea |
I think they can - I could be wrong |
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dcook |
I know that wizzyrea and I have talked about this many times and never really settled on the for sure answer |
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wizzyrea |
have we? |
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dcook |
I always get side-tracked by other things which are a bit more pressing :/ |
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wizzyrea |
lol. |
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dcook |
Yup, lol |
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dcook |
At least twice |
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dcook |
Possibly three times |
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* wizzyrea |
is like a goldfish "ooh, a bubbler!" |
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wizzyrea |
<swims round again> |
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wizzyrea |
ooh! a bubbler! |
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wizzyrea |
and so on. |
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dcook |
lol |
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dcook |
I really do need to sit down and look at that one someday |
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dcook |
Or mtj could look and report back the definite answer :) |
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mtj |
im about to test it now |
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dcook |
Yay! |
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dcook |
I've never thought of it until now but I wonder if places would deliver food to the office... |
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dcook |
I had lunch but I want second lunch... |
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dcook |
Or pre-supper |
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dcook |
I suppose Australians do have afternoon tea... |
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mtj |
yay!! ^^ |
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dcook |
I take that as a good sign, mtj? |
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dcook |
That moment when you realize that you weren't passing your url into your function...and that's why it kept returning nothing |
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facepalm |
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reiveune |
hello |
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dcook |
salut reiveune |
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reiveune |
:) |
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dcook |
Good morning so far? |
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reiveune |
yes, but this is only the beginning of the week ;) |
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christophe_c |
hello #koha |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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wahanui |
bidet, alex_a |
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alex_a |
bidet ?? |
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dcook |
reiveune, true enough. True enough. |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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wahanui |
hey, gaetan_B |
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evening |
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drojf |
hi #koha |
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rangi |
hi drojf, get your phone? |
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drojf |
rangi: i did :) you too? |
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drojf |
and hi btw ;) |
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rangi |
yup :) |
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waves to drojf and rangi |
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drojf |
hi mtj |
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mtj |
so, guys… first opinions on the fones? |
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drojf |
rangi: pro-tip: don't trust the alarm clock. i think the snooze button let me sleep 50 minutes instead of 5 this morning |
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rangi |
heh |
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mtj |
i have recently seem this -> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-[…]fox-os-simulator/ |
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mtj |
pretty clever |
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drojf |
rangi: did you get gps to work? it displays an icon but that's it for me |
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rangi |
mtj: thats what we were using at the apps day |
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drojf |
the simulator is pretty good actually |
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rangi |
drojf: nope no gps, but sms and phone call work well |
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drojf |
you got a keon too i suppose? |
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rangi |
yep |
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drojf |
i made it hang a few times, still can't get back from sms by one person to sms of everybody ^^ |
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mtj |
rangi, aaaah, ok :) i had no idea its been out that long, even |
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drojf |
apart from that, it has more functionality than every phone i ever had |
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rangi |
:) apart from the gps, everythign else feels like software issues |
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rangi |
which is all good, they are easier to fix :) |
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drojf |
i spent a million hours preparing a ubuntu 64bit building vm for fxos :D |
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rangi |
:) |
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drojf |
and i changed the browser search to duckduckgo. have not dared to upload it to the phone though |
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drojf |
it seems i can build gaia but i get errors if i try to build the whole thing |
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drojf |
i don't think i should change stuff in more than gaia anyway ;) |
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mtj |
interesting -> https://developer.mozilla.org/[…]alling_Firefox_OS |
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jenkins_koha |
* Chris Cormack: Bug 9591 : Set Library changes after viewing Holds Queue >> reserves item |
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jenkins_koha |
* Owen Leonard: Bug 9679 - can't place hold from cart in CCSR |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9591 blocker, P3, ---, chris, Pushed to Stable , Set Library changes after viewing Holds Queue >> reserves item |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9679 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , can't place hold from cart in CCSR |
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drojf |
i try to build a value_builder plugin to use when adding an item. it is supposed to check for a value in the record it is going to be added to. can i get the relevant biblionumber from within the plugin somehow? i tried $query->param('biblionumber'); but that gives me "Undefined subroutine &main::plugin called at /home/mirko/koha/cataloguing/plugin_launcher.pl line 38." |
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rangi |
hmm, i havent ever played with them |
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mtj |
i did successfully build a magazine plugin a few years ago |
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mtj |
hmm, i need to look about for that old repo… / |
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mtj |
drojf, aaah - i found that old repo... |
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mtj |
heres a (pretty fugly) example of a working cataloging plugin |
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drojf |
cool :) |
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drojf |
mtj: thanks for looking! |
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drojf |
i am trying to get the biblionumber with javascript and then pass it to the perl function. i think that might work |
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mtj |
its a bit 'mysterious'…someone else wrote most of it |
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drojf |
lol @ mysterious |
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mtj |
i 'modified' it… after them :) |
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mtj |
ive forgotten why i added many 'xxx' values, in the marc records? |
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mtj |
i think they were placeholders, that i later removed when saving? |
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drojf |
ha, works with var biblionumber = document.getElementsByName('biblionumber')[0].value; |
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drojf |
i win javascript \o/ |
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drojf |
then i can pass it as a parameter and deal with it as you did too, mtj. seems my problem was just getting it somewhere before passing it over |
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mtj |
aah, ok |
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drojf |
i still think i should be able to get that other than looking it up in the file, but i may be wrong in case of adding an item. |
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drojf |
and it works for now ;) |
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mtj |
lol, its just a great example of bad code! |
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mtj |
i remember bits of it very well |
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mtj |
3 jscript functions that are stuffed into a perl string called $res, wtf?! |
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mtj |
drojf, actually - i think that example is more hurtful, that helpful |
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jcamins |
mtj: A) isn't it kind of late for you, and B) I think that's just how value builders work. |
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mtj |
yes, and yes |
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drojf |
:D |
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drojf |
hi jcamins |
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jcamins |
Hello. |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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jcamins |
Good morning. |
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tcohen |
morning #koha |
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jcamins |
tcohen: are you close to done with the patch adding error handling to koha-create? |
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tcohen |
yes jcamins |
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tcohen |
i'll be testing it this morning |
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jcamins |
Okay. In that case I'll wait for that one and push the packaging patches all at once. |
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jcamins |
Thanks! |
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* drojf |
curses the unescaped @ that caused half an hour of confusion |
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jcamins |
drojf: I hate that. |
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jcamins |
That's why use strict and use warnings are so important. |
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drojf |
jcamins: i use strict and warnings, but i just refreshed the plugin in the browser and it told me about undefined subroutines :/ |
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jcamins |
drojf: perl -c |
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oleonard |
jcamins: I think Bug 10196 does affect 3.12/3.14 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10196 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , items table partially hidden in marc view in ccsr |
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jcamins |
oleonard: really? Could you take a screenshot and circle the problem? |
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oleonard |
Sure |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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oleonard |
http://www.screencast.com/t/vdc31u25P |
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jcamins |
Hmm. |
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jcamins |
How did you do that? |
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oleonard |
My browser window is about 1050px wide for that screenshot if that helps |
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jcamins |
Oh, maybe it's an absolute width thing. My item tables aren't that wide. |
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oleonard |
Y U got skimpy items tables jcamins? |
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jcamins |
Okay, reproduced it. |
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drojf |
does a mysql BETWEEN 1 AND 5 include 1 and 5 or is it 2, 3 and 4? |
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jcamins |
drojf: I think it's inclusive. |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_10196' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f394e08dd70ec51e6> / Bug 10196 - items table partially hidden in marc view in ccsr <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f0d8632d53b7792d1> |
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rambutan |
@later tell wizzyrea http://imageshack.com/photo/my[…]/geesebabies.jpg/ |
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huginn |
rambutan: The operation succeeded. |
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senator |
jcamins: re your comment on friday, i do have a little CentOS experience, a tad rusty. if mtompset reappears and is still busy translating redhat-isms, i'll be happy to offer what help i can |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Quote #66: "<paul_p> shame on koha, mySQL & user !" (added by jwagner at 03:39 PM, March 04, 2010) |
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oleonard |
Besides Bug 10229, is there a reason why we *should* enforce a no-space rule on authorized value codes? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10229 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , branch transfer limits showing one tab at bottom |
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jcamins |
oleonard: you can't search for authorized value codes when there are spaces. |
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oleonard |
jcamins: Meaning you can't limit by collection code in a catalog search? |
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oleonard |
...or something more general? |
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jcamins |
oleonard: collection code, or anything else. |
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oleonard |
So we need to have client-side and server-side validation of authorized value codes and block anything non alphanumeric? |
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jcamins |
That would seem like a good idea to me. |
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oleonard |
So 10229 is "wontfix," but we need a new bug about enforcing valid entries |
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jcamins |
10229? |
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jcamins |
That's caused by a space? |
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oleonard |
Yes |
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jcamins |
Then, yes, that would be my inclination. |
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oleonard |
At least it's in the manual: "Authorized value is limited to 80 characters and cannot have spaces or special characters other than underscores and hyphens in it" |
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jcamins |
Yeah, underscores and hyphens are fine. |
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jenkins_koha |
Owen Leonard: Bug 10196 - items table partially hidden in marc view in ccsr |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10196 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , items table partially hidden in marc view in ccsr |
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reiveune |
bye |
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jenkins_koha |
Owen Leonard: Bug 10196 - items table partially hidden in marc view in ccsr |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10196 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , items table partially hidden in marc view in ccsr |
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sophie_m |
exit |
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bonsoir |
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gaetan_B |
bye ! |
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jcamins |
oleonard: our datepickers with the time are jqueryUI, right? |
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oleonard |
Yes. The time part of it is an additional plugin. |
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jcamins |
Hm. |
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jcamins |
Any idea where we handle the date format? |
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jcamins |
I see date-format.inc, but I don't really know what it does. |
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oleonard |
calendar.inc |
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jcamins |
Ah-ha! |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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oleonard |
date-format.inc is used to display a hint about what date format is expected when entering a date |
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jcamins |
No wonder it didn't seem to do anything. |
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oleonard |
Ooh, touchy. What's that about? |
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jcamins |
oleonard: the horrible article that they published. |
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oleonard |
A new horrible article, or the one from a few weeks ago? |
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jcamins |
A few weeks ago. |
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jcamins |
I presume. |
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tcohen |
jcamins, koha-remove: if the instance has a custom hostname defined, that does not match the one from mysql/koha-common.cnf |
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tcohen |
should we abort? |
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tcohen |
currently localhost is hardcoded so bad things can happen if someone uses an external DB and has one named the very same in localhost |
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jcamins |
tcohen: maybe not abort, but print out a warning and don't delete the database, perhaps? |
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tcohen |
yes, that's what I thought |
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tcohen |
I'm touching koha-remove to make it work for partial installs (koha-create failures) |
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tcohen |
so we use it as an easy rollback method |
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jcamins |
That's a good idea. |
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* oleonard |
wonders if there is such a thing as an IRC cat bot |
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rambutan |
Hey, I just re-proposed that just last week! |
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rambutan |
Well, it was actually a Koha cat bot |
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oleonard |
A good IRC cat bot would threaten to eat any channel member who was idle too long. |
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jcamins |
khall: didn't you submit a patch with an example SIP client to Koha? |
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jcamins |
Any idea what bug? |
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jcamins |
Bug 9288. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9288 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Add a script to test SIP from the command line |
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jcamins |
khall: thanks. |
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khall |
np! I was wondering where that audio alert was coming from ; ) |
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jcamins |
My mistake was searching for "sip2" rather than sip. |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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mtompset |
jcamins: Remember when I was describing a mess I had with my git repo, and you were saying the bad news is I likely edit'd the master? |
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mtompset |
I think I just encountered that. |
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* cait |
waves |
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mtompset |
Greetings, cait. :) |
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jcamins |
mtompset: senator confirms that he has some CentOS experience. Unfortunately, I expect he'll be leaving work in about 6 minutes. |
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mtompset |
No biggie. I solved my CentOS problems. :) |
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jcamins |
Hi cait! |
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jcamins |
How was your trip? |
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cait |
long? :) |
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senator |
jcamins: true today, but not always. but glad to hear mtompset installed debian *ducks* |
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jcamins |
Hehe. |
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mtompset |
So, how do I blow away everything in my git repo and make it like I just did the git clone? |
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jcamins |
mtompset: I just clone it over. |
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mtompset |
-- without doing the git clone from scratch. |
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jcamins |
Or delete my local branches. |
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jcamins |
Either works. |
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jcamins |
Deleting the local branches involves less time, if you don't have a pristine git repo somewhere on your LAN. |
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mtompset |
I did delete my local branches, but it left remnants behind like the new file I created. |
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jcamins |
git clean |
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jcamins |
Warning: THIS WILL DELETE THINGS IN AN IRRECOVERABLE WAY |
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mtompset |
That's fine. |
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mtompset |
I have a patch file which I can at least read to redo everything. |
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jcamins |
I have a screenshot of my web browser. |
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jcamins |
I keep on clicking on it and trying to copy text. |
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mtompset |
Been there, done that. |
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mtompset |
-- senator: This was for a different project. It was apache2 configuration issues, not a Koha problem exactly. |
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senator |
ah |
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bag |
logs? |
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wahanui |
hmmm... logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
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bag |
oh rangi++ |
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mtompset |
*sigh* Okay... redoing a git install again. |
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bag |
hey mtompset do you have any SAML work that you've been working available any where to look at? |
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mtompset |
Nope. It isn't to the alpha stage yet. |
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mtompset |
As soon as I get it to the alpha stage, I'll let you know. :) |
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bag |
awesome - well we may be working on it too |
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bag |
so if we have some alpha we'll share with you |
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mtompset |
However, it is based on biblibre's shibboleth patch. |
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mtompset |
Let me grab the URL... |
| 21:12 |
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mtompset |
http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koh[…]036101ba6a0903ecb |
| 21:12 |
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bag |
cool yeah that's what I was looking at too |
| 21:13 |
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bag |
also mod_mellon |
| 21:13 |
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mtompset |
I have something which is integrated with master... However, since I don't have shibboleth installed, I can't get it to work for me. |
| 21:13 |
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mtompset |
I also tweaked it, since the redirect assumes the same server. |
| 21:14 |
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rangi |
wahanui: forget logs |
| 21:14 |
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wahanui |
rangi: I forgot logs |
| 21:14 |
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bag |
logs? |
| 21:14 |
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bag |
heh |
| 21:14 |
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rangi |
logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/ |
| 21:14 |
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rangi |
logs? |
| 21:14 |
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wahanui |
logs is, like, http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/ |
| 21:14 |
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rangi |
there we go |
| 21:14 |
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mtompset |
valley girl speak?! |
| 21:15 |
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bag |
NateC? |
| 21:15 |
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wahanui |
I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE |
| 21:15 |
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rangi |
(it will redirect but that is the new url( |
| 21:15 |
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NateC |
Space is the Place :) |
| 21:17 |
|
* mtompset |
hums, "It rolls down stairs. Alone or in pairs! Rolls over the neighbour's dog. It's great for a snack and fits on your back. It's log, log log!" |
| 21:17 |
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jcamins |
bag: mod_mellon might not be such a good choice, since that locks Koha into Apache. |
| 21:18 |
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bag |
right but you can run both apache and whatever |
| 21:18 |
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mtompset |
eeew! |
| 21:19 |
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jcamins |
Not for auth. |
| 21:19 |
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jcamins |
Because every single request has to be authenticated. |
| 21:20 |
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bag |
well jcamins I don't think SAML is for everyone - and if someone really wants it - that could be fix for them alone |
| 21:20 |
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bag |
not for everyone :D |
| 21:20 |
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jcamins |
True. |
| 21:20 |
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bag |
which is the line that I was walking |
| 21:20 |
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mtompset |
But a solution that can be turned on or off with a couple of sysprefs works across the board. |
| 21:20 |
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jcamins |
Good thing I'm not going to be the RM when that code comes out, eh? |
| 21:21 |
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bag |
a solution that can be turned on and off - is much better |
| 21:21 |
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rangi |
mod_mellon is fine, it can use the same system as the pki |
| 21:21 |
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rangi |
so can be turned on and off |
| 21:22 |
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rangi |
its sure as hell beats writing a SAML implementation in perl |
| 21:22 |
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bag |
and if it you love it and want to be on apache - there you go - no problem to you jcamins :) |
| 21:22 |
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bag |
:D |
| 21:22 |
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jcamins |
Well, I won't be RM, so I don't give a damn either way. |
| 21:23 |
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mtompset |
okay... |
| 21:23 |
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mtompset |
Let's start from scratch... I've just done the git clone. |
| 21:23 |
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mtompset |
I cd'd into the directory. |
| 21:24 |
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mtompset |
what next steps would be recommended to take? |
| 21:24 |
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bag |
wait jcamins we can't get in any more code? Did I miss the message? |
| 21:24 |
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bag |
heh :P |
| 21:24 |
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rangi |
mtompset: what are you trying to do? |
| 21:25 |
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jcamins |
You have one week to get well-tested bugfixes into 3.12. |
| 21:25 |
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mtompset |
I'm trying take a patch file I have, apply it, and have it not affect my initial branch. |
| 21:26 |
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mtompset |
How did the GBSD go on Friday? |
| 21:26 |
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jcamins |
mtompset: two bugs were reported, and that was it. |
| 21:27 |
|
* cait |
just finished reading the logs an dnoticed noone missed her |
| 21:27 |
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cait |
guess i can go to sleep then :) |
| 21:27 |
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cait |
night all |
| 21:27 |
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wahanui |
goodnight cait. You'll be back. |
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| 21:29 |
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jcamins |
bag: rangi has clarified that mod_mellon is *not* what CAS is using, so never mind my objections. |
| 21:29 |
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jcamins |
(not that it mattered anyway, as you wouldn't be submitting code by last February) |
| 21:31 |
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mtompset |
would you git install from the initial git clone directory or from a newly created branch? |
| 21:32 |
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jcamins |
mtompset: what difference does it make? |
| 21:32 |
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mtompset |
Is one easier to reset to a pristine git clone state? |
| 21:32 |
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jcamins |
No. |
| 21:33 |
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jcamins |
When you're running an install, it has nothing to do with what's in the git repository. |
| 21:33 |
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jcamins |
I mean, those are the files that are installed, but it is unrelated to branches. |
| 21:33 |
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mtompset |
True, the install doesn't know about the branches. |
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| 21:42 |
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mtompset |
okay... rebuilt from scratch. all is clean. all is functional. |
| 21:43 |
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mtompset |
Now to manually redo these changes, because I don't want to accidentally modify the master. |
| 21:45 |
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rambutan |
@seen wizzyrea |
| 21:45 |
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huginn |
rambutan: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 16 hours, 53 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> and so on. |
| 21:46 |
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wizzyrea |
sup |
| 21:46 |
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rambutan |
see our goosies? |
| 21:46 |
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wizzyrea |
d'awwwwwwwwwww |
| 21:46 |
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wizzyrea |
those are some adorable goslings. |
| 21:47 |
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rambutan |
they were here Sunday, took off walking, and now not to be found. No idea where they went. |
| 21:47 |
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wizzyrea |
away to do goosy things |
| 21:48 |
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rambutan |
yea, well, I hope not across the 4 lane highway, and every kid in the housing project would be out to catch them if they went that way. |
| 21:59 |
|
eythian |
hi |
| 22:00 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, eythian. :) |
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| 22:33 |
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rangi |
http://i.imgur.com/QuHaVhc.gif |
| 22:39 |
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mtompset |
what is the git command to list the files which are currently "add"ed to the commit list? |
| 22:39 |
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wizzyrea |
git status |
| 22:39 |
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wahanui |
git status is a-ok |
| 22:40 |
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wizzyrea |
i think is what you're asking for |
| 22:40 |
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mtompset |
Yes it was. |
| 22:40 |
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mtompset |
wizzyrea++ # thanks! |
| 23:04 |
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talljoy |
rangi that's a great video |
| 23:05 |
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jcamins |
rangi: wow, that's awesome. |
| 23:05 |
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jcamins |
Now I want an iguana to introduce to Myshkin. |
| 23:05 |
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talljoy |
hey jcamins, it's my lucky day! you were release manager for 3.10.05? yes? |
| 23:05 |
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rangi |
hehe |
| 23:05 |
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rangi |
nope thats me |
| 23:05 |
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jcamins |
talljoy: no, rangi. |
| 23:06 |
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talljoy |
that was you rangi, even better. :-) |
| 23:06 |
|
cjh |
hehe |
| 23:06 |
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rangi |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?[…]ded&v=-aLyqyd2CiQ |
| 23:06 |
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rangi |
yeah, nah |
| 23:06 |
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wizzyrea |
^ so funny |
| 23:06 |
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jcamins |
I was RMaint for 3.6.5-3.6.10 and RM for 3.12.0. |
| 23:07 |
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jcamins |
Or maybe to 3.6.9. I don't exactly remember. |
| 23:07 |
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talljoy |
i've noticed that when circulating an unknown items the fast add cataloging option doesn't give the user the option to select the framework, they are stuck on the 'fast add framework'. i can't see anything in the release notes that would be related to a change in this behavior. (3.10.03 does give the option to select a framework) |
| 23:08 |
|
rangi |
there were definite changes to the fast add functionality |
| 23:08 |
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talljoy |
ah. see here jcamins this is where i found your name as release manager http://koha-community.org/koha-3-10-5-released/ |
| 23:08 |
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rangi |
he's release manager |
| 23:08 |
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rangi |
they only do .0 releases |
| 23:08 |
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rangi |
release maintainers do .everything else |
| 23:08 |
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wizzyrea |
maintainer I think |
| 23:08 |
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jcamins |
I suppose, yes, I was release manager for 3.10.5, but that won't help because you're interested in a stable release. |
| 23:08 |
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jcamins |
:) |
| 23:09 |
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talljoy |
gotcha! jcamins you're off the hook then. :-) |
| 23:09 |
|
* talljoy |
sets her sights on rangi |
| 23:09 |
|
talljoy |
what were some of the changes to fast add functionality? |
| 23:09 |
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rangi |
7523 |
| 23:09 |
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rangi |
in 3.10.4 |
| 23:09 |
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jcamins |
talljoy: if you change the framework when doing fast add, you break the fast add. |
| 23:09 |
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rangi |
exactly |
| 23:10 |
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jcamins |
It because a regular add. |
| 23:10 |
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rangi |
and you cant check out |
| 23:10 |
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wizzyrea |
^^ makes perfect sense |
| 23:10 |
|
rangi |
bug 7523 |
| 23:10 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7523 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, CLOSED FIXED, Templates should respect serials routing permission |
| 23:10 |
|
rangi |
hmm nope |
| 23:10 |
|
rangi |
bug 7253 |
| 23:10 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7253 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , fast cataloging not always checking out |
| 23:10 |
|
rangi |
that one |
| 23:10 |
|
wahanui |
somebody said that one was down more often than up |
| 23:10 |
|
rangi |
reported by nengard |
| 23:11 |
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talljoy |
and she is now complaining? |
| 23:11 |
|
talljoy |
lol |
| 23:11 |
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talljoy |
j/k she's not. but this was given to me by her. :-D |
| 23:11 |
|
* wizzyrea |
suspects who reported that. |
| 23:11 |
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rangi |
right, well its by design, changing framework is a bug |
| 23:11 |
|
rangi |
its now been fixed |
| 23:11 |
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wizzyrea |
@quote get 123 |
| 23:12 |
|
wahanui |
http://xkcd.com/1172/ |
| 23:12 |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 23:12 |
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rangi |
if you want to do a real cataloguing .. go do that :-) |
| 23:12 |
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wizzyrea |
see the comic. |
| 23:12 |
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talljoy |
okay, so a library who liked this option will need to have the "true fast add" framework be the one they use for checkout. (very reduced) |
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| 23:12 |
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jcamins |
talljoy: what? |
| 23:12 |
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wizzyrea |
they can import their fast add over the existing fast add. |
| 23:12 |
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wizzyrea |
if that's what they want. |
| 23:12 |
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rangi |
what she said |
| 23:12 |
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talljoy |
right, that's what i need to do |
| 23:13 |
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jcamins |
Okay, that's what I understood too. |
| 23:13 |
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talljoy |
they have multiple fast add frameworks |
| 23:13 |
|
eythian |
fast add, faster add, fastest add. |
| 23:13 |
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talljoy |
bizactly |
| 23:13 |
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wizzyrea |
JUST ADD THE DAMN THING framework |
| 23:13 |
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talljoy |
LOL |
| 23:13 |
|
talljoy |
thanks for the clarification y'all |
| 23:13 |
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wizzyrea |
"added yesterday" framework |
| 23:13 |
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wizzyrea |
they can call it the TARDIS framework |
| 23:13 |
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jcamins |
eythian: don't forget "fasting add," which is appropriate when your circ staff is on hunger strike. |
| 23:14 |
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eythian |
heh |
| 23:14 |
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talljoy |
and btw, someone asked me for RDA framework additions, are they in channel now? |
| 23:14 |
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talljoy |
i think it was maximep |
| 23:14 |
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jcamins |
It was maximep, but it doesn't look like he's around. |
| 23:14 |
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rangi |
@seen maximep |
| 23:14 |
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huginn |
rangi: maximep was last seen in #koha 3 days, 3 hours, 10 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <maximep> been that way for years |
| 23:15 |
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talljoy |
@later tell maximep Did you still need the RDA framework scripts? ping me and i'll send you the latest and greatest for bib and auth frameworks |
| 23:15 |
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huginn |
talljoy: The operation succeeded. |
| 23:15 |
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jcamins |
talljoy: you can attach them to the wiki. |
| 23:15 |
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rangi |
talljoy: can you put them on the wiki, where the current rda one is? |
| 23:15 |
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jcamins |
marc frameworks? |
| 23:15 |
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wahanui |
marc frameworks are specific to Koha. |
| 23:15 |
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talljoy |
yes, i can. i warn you they are hideous scripts, but they get the job done |
| 23:15 |
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rangi |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]i/MARC_frameworks |
| 23:15 |
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jcamins |
wahanui: marc frameworks is also http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]i/MARC_frameworks |
| 23:15 |
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wahanui |
OK, jcamins. |
| 23:15 |
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jcamins |
marc frameworks? |
| 23:15 |
|
wahanui |
marc frameworks is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]i/MARC_frameworks |
| 23:16 |
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talljoy |
MARC is dead and yet we keep it on RDA life support. sigh.... |
| 23:16 |
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talljoy |
long live FRBR |
| 23:17 |
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rangi |
we should use more MARC |
| 23:17 |
|
wahanui |
http://02varvara.files.wordpre[…]no-bear.jpg?w=800 |
| 23:18 |
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rangi |
actually MARC killed Koha's initial FRBR implementation |
| 23:18 |
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wizzyrea |
we could almost add "we should use more MARC" to "be rangi" |
| 23:18 |
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jcamins |
Except Koha's initial FRBR implementation was sane. |
| 23:18 |
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wizzyrea |
^^^ |
| 23:19 |
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rangi |
3rd normal form :) |
| 23:19 |
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wizzyrea |
@quote add <jcamins> ..."Koha's initial FRBR implementation was sane." |
| 23:19 |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #248 added. |
| 23:19 |
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talljoy |
FRBR++ |
| 23:19 |
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wizzyrea |
all_good_ideas_that_were_old_but_now_new_again++ |
| 23:19 |
|
drojf |
when will we have koha for firefox os? i really feel the need for a library server on my phone |
| 23:19 |
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ibeardslee |
not more cowbell? |
| 23:20 |
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jcamins |
It did not make imaginary distinctions between expression and manifestation while going all Anxiety of Influence on bibliographic terminology. |
| 23:20 |
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rangi |
christopher walken already has that covered ibeardslee |
| 23:20 |
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rangi |
drojf: hmm, talk to jcamins ... its closer than you imagine ;) |
| 23:21 |
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jcamins |
rangi: not the server. |
| 23:21 |
|
rangi |
true |
| 23:21 |
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jcamins |
I'm just working on implementing the functionality client-side. |
| 23:21 |
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rangi |
that would be a bit mental really |
| 23:21 |
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jcamins |
like... |
| 23:21 |
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jcamins |
we should use more marc? |
| 23:21 |
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wahanui |
http://02varvara.files.wordpre[…]no-bear.jpg?w=800 |
| 23:21 |
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rangi |
:) |
| 23:21 |
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jcamins |
Or less mental than that? ;) |
| 23:21 |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM1fkHQP_Pw |
| 23:21 |
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wizzyrea |
sorry you said christopher walken. |
| 23:22 |
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drojf |
i bet there are great jquery marc modules out there :D |
| 23:22 |
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rangi |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o0Vv8lr41w |
| 23:22 |
|
* wizzyrea |
prefers dancing walken |
| 23:22 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: actually, I've seen this. |
| 23:23 |
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wizzyrea |
walken reading goodnight moon is pretty funny toom |
| 23:23 |
|
wizzyrea |
too* |
| 23:23 |
|
wizzyrea |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpZazF6bL7w |
| 23:24 |
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jcamins |
Hey, I need a bug number. |
| 23:26 |
|
eythian |
bug 4 |
| 23:26 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]show_bug.cgi?id=4 normal, P2, ---, gmcharlt, CLOSED FIXED, installer.pl doesn't create parent directories |
| 23:26 |
|
jcamins |
Bug 10240 |
| 23:26 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10240 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, NEW , Offline circulation using HTML5 and IndexedDB |
| 23:26 |
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wizzyrea |
bug 5874 |
| 23:26 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5874 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, paul.poulain, CLOSED DUPLICATE, Overdue report : Limit by date & add a new permission to restrict who can run the report |
| 23:27 |
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jcamins |
wahanui: rand() * 10000 |
| 23:27 |
|
wahanui |
jcamins: what? |
| 23:27 |
|
jcamins |
wahanui: random number? |
| 23:27 |
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wahanui |
wish i knew, jcamins |
| 23:27 |
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jcamins |
Oh well. |
| 23:27 |
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wizzyrea |
huginn might do that |
| 23:27 |
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huginn |
wizzyrea: I suck |
| 23:27 |
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drojf |
jcamins: nice |
| 23:27 |
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jcamins |
@dice 1d10239 |
| 23:27 |
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huginn |
jcamins: Error: Dice can't have more than 100 sides. |
| 23:27 |
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jcamins |
huginn: says you! |
| 23:27 |
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huginn |
jcamins: downloading the Perl source |
| 23:27 |
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jcamins |
It's a fractal die. |
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| 23:40 |
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jcamins |
Does anyone have any idea what issues.return is? |
| 23:41 |
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jcamins |
And issues.issuingbranch. |
| 23:42 |
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rangi |
i can find out |
| 23:42 |
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| 23:43 |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
| 23:43 |
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jcamins |
I suspect they're obsolete. |
| 23:43 |
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rangi |
i can confirm that branchcode is where the item was returned |
| 23:44 |
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rangi |
back in 2000 |
| 23:44 |
|
rangi |
issuingbranch was where it was issued |
| 23:44 |
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jcamins |
Ahh, but at some point they got swapped? |
| 23:45 |
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rangi |
branchcode is now where it was issued |
| 23:45 |
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rangi |
i dont think we record where it was returned |
| 23:45 |
|
* rangi |
looks |
| 23:47 |
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rangi |
nope we dont |
| 23:47 |
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rangi |
well we do in statistics |
| 23:47 |
|
rangi |
but not in the issues or old_issues table |
| 23:48 |
|
rangi |
so yes, issuingbranch is not used anymore (from a quick grep) |
| 23:48 |
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jcamins |
Thanks. That's what it looked like to me too. |
| 23:48 |
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jcamins |
Any idea about issues.return? |
| 23:49 |
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rangi |
that used to be a boolean |
| 23:49 |
|
rangi |
back when we didnt have old_issues |
| 23:50 |
|
rangi |
afaict |
| 23:50 |
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| 23:50 |
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jcamins |
Ah. |
| 23:50 |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
| 23:50 |
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jcamins |
That makes sense. |
| 23:50 |
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rangi |
i must say |
| 23:50 |
|
rangi |
i like this |
| 23:50 |
|
rangi |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e4a578a61654c19db |
| 23:51 |
|
rangi |
better than our 12k line Circulation.pm |
| 23:51 |
|
rangi |
sory 120k |
| 23:52 |
|
rangi |
the code was crap |
| 23:52 |
|
rangi |
but at least i could find stuff ;) |
| 23:52 |
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jcamins |
But at least it was neat crap. |
| 23:52 |
|
dcook |
Certainly something to be said for neatness |
| 23:52 |
|
dcook |
I sometimes wonder what lurks in the bowels of Koha |
| 23:53 |
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jcamins |
dcook: despair. We must never speak of it. |
| 23:53 |
|
jcamins |
wtf? |
| 23:53 |
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dcook |
One of those things where it grows more powerful the more you say it's name? ;) |
| 23:54 |
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jcamins |
Bug 10241 |
| 23:54 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10241 normal, P4, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Easy analyticals creates two 773 fields. Search/link from host to children is broken |
| 23:54 |
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jcamins |
You know what? I'm going to ignore it because I haven't the energy to explain that those are two entirely separate features that do not work together. |
| 23:55 |
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rangi |
yeah |
| 23:55 |
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rangi |
easy analytics is fine if you never ever want to export your records |
| 23:55 |
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rangi |
i recommend people dont use it |
| 23:56 |
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jcamins |
Well, it also works fine if all you care about is the 773$a/$t/etc. |
| 23:57 |
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rangi |
true |
| 23:57 |
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jcamins |
Where it does not work is if you are looking to create links that are not Koha-internal. |
| 23:58 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 23:58 |
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jcamins |
Or, of course, if you're using control number links. |
| 23:58 |
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jcamins |
But I feel like that should have gone without saying. |
| 23:59 |
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rangi |
apparently not |
